[05:30] <Kilos> hi superfly maiatoday and others
[06:09] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:09] <Kilos> ohi magespawn 
[06:11] <superfly> hi Kilos, maiatoday, magespawn (when you get here)
[06:11] <Kilos> oh didnt he turn on the show away again?
[06:11] <superfly> maybe
[06:18] <magespawn> good morning maiatoday Kilos superfly
[06:19] <magespawn> no the power was down briefly last night
[06:19] <magespawn> auto rejoin
[06:19] <Kilos> aha
[06:20] <magespawn> and i could not get on from home last night, flaky 3G
[06:20] <Kilos> stable power has become a big prob in za hey
[06:20] <Kilos> and 3g has been bad for about 3 weeks now
[06:21] <Kilos> maybe time to call 8ta again
[06:21] <Kilos> its stable but so slow its eina
[06:22] <maiatoday> hi magespawn
[06:26] <magespawn> just listening to some of the music links you guys posted last night
[06:29] <inetpro> good morning Kilos, maia[tab], superfly, magespawn, and all the lurkers
[06:29] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[06:30] <magespawn> hey inetpro
[06:30] <Symmetria> argh, vmware giving me grief
[06:30] <magespawn> i liked that job description you posted, amusing
[06:30] <Symmetria> I dont get this, I have a linux system under a vmware instance, if I download files to it, I get 250k/second, if I download the same file to the host machine, I get 18meg/second
[06:31] <inetpro> magespawn: yep, thought so myself
[06:32] <inetpro> magespawn: looks like a fun place to work for
[06:32] <inetpro> if I didn't have enough to do where I am I would apply
[06:32] <magespawn> indeed, just not qualified to do all that yet
[06:33] <magespawn> and i am in hluhluwe
[06:33] <Symmetria> heh, general rule about applying for jobs
[06:33] <magespawn> apply anyway
[06:33] <inetpro> magespawn: if you know someone please refer them there
[06:33] <Symmetria> dont apply for things you can actually already do, there is no faster way to grow than to throw yourself in the deep end and make yourself sink or swim
[06:33] <magespawn> will do inetpro
[06:34] <Symmetria> seriously, every job I have ever taken when I started it, I had no clue how to do half of it, and then *made* it work
[06:34] <Symmetria> it forced me to learn, hard and fast 
[06:34] <magespawn> Symmetria: true just would like to have an vague idea first
[06:34] <Symmetria> magespawn you think when I originally took the job at tenet that I had any clue how to be a CTO? ;p
[06:34] <Symmetria> lol, I knew a fair amount of networking, but the rest of it? lol, that I learnt on the job 
[06:35] <Symmetria> (luckily I was relatively good at it)
[06:36] <magespawn> Symmetria: I studied Nature Conservation, and I am qualified Field Guide, but all my computer knowledge is very spotty mostly relates to desk top hardware
[06:36] <Squirm> morning
[06:36] <Squirm> back at work :/
[06:37] <Kilos> hi Squirm Symmetria 
[06:40] <magespawn> Squirm: :(
[06:41] <magespawn> Symmetria: so i would be willing to do it but not too sure if they would take somebody on like that
[06:42] <Symmetria> magespawn *LOL* that implies you let them know about your lack of experience :) the trick on a cv is never to lie, but rather... divert attention away from the short comings :)
[06:43] <magespawn> right, I think the only think on my CV pc related is A+ and two years of running my shop
[06:43] <magespawn> and today I cannot get my shared printer to print
[06:49] <Squirm> magespawn: in my years of being in IT(not many), I still hate printing
[06:49] <Squirm> :/
[06:49] <magespawn> my windows laptop continually loses the network hp printer, drives me mad
[06:50] <Squirm> Symmetria: at the RH course I went on last year, our instructor made a joke. 2 printers 1 CUPS
[06:50] <henkj> lol Squirm 
[06:51] <magespawn> and of course the windows has never be able to print to the shared printer
[06:51] <henkj> I've been too lazy to share my printer on the network, just pass the really long usb cable between machines when someone needs to print
[06:51] <Squirm> henkj: it was really funny at the time. completely out of the blue
[06:51] <magespawn> i missed that one
[06:51] <Squirm> magespawn: I'm glad you missed it. not an experience I'd wish on anyone
[06:52] <magespawn> meant the joke
[06:52] <Squirm> magespawn: I know
[06:52] <magespawn> hah 
[06:53] <Squirm> I need to get out of my techy field :/
[06:53] <henkj> magespawn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_site
[06:53] <Squirm> just going to wait out the year. Get RHCE udner my belt
[06:54] <Squirm> henkj: how could you post such a thing :O
[06:54] <Squirm> especially without being able to watch the reaction
[06:54] <henkj> Squirm: it's wikipedia, it's safe
[06:54] <Squirm> :P
[06:55] <Squirm> ah, I see it just has a description
[06:55] <magespawn> i did have the misfortune of being shown the video in question
[06:56] <henkj> I wanted to do CISSP, but I won't get it through my current job :(
[06:56] <magespawn> why RHCE Squirm?
[06:59] <magespawn> i thought ubuntu had its own certification
[06:59] <Squirm> magespawn: I want to go into Linux Server Administration
[07:00] <magespawn> is it difficult?
[07:00] <Squirm> Red Hat seemed the most worthwhile option for that
[07:00] <Squirm> umm
[07:01] <magespawn> i suppose that is relative
[07:02] <Squirm> http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/ex200/examobjective
[07:02] <Squirm> if you scroll down, there is an exam objectives secion
[07:03] <Squirm> personally, I didn't find the first one all that difficult(which is that one)
[07:03] <Squirm> you need RHCSA to get your RHCE
[07:03] <Squirm> so I'm a certified System Admin
[07:04] <Squirm> though, after RHCE, you kind of start... specialising
[07:04] <Squirm> Network Security, Performance, SELinux, etc
[07:04] <Squirm> get 5 of those and you become a Red Hat Architect
[07:04] <Squirm> which is really good
[07:05] <Squirm> but Obsidian(the company I did training with), charge about R20k for each of those more, "specialised" courses
[07:12] <magespawn> wow 
[07:34] <magespawn> Squirm: can you do a self study or something online?
[07:42] <magespawn> brb restart
[07:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[07:43] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> lovely winter preview we've been having down here :o
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> brrrrr
[07:52] <Squirm> disconnected 20min ago. boss is trying to get our bonded connection up
[07:52] <Squirm> magespawn: you can self study and just do the exams
[07:52] <Squirm> ex200 = RHCSA
[07:52] <Squirm> I think the ex200 exam is about R2500/R3000
[07:56] <superfly> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[07:56] <superfly> and everyone else who I haven't said hi to yet
[07:57] <Squirm> hello superfly 
[08:21] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 zeref_debian 
[08:29] <Vince_0> Haai
[08:38] <magespawn> hey all back from reboot
[08:42] <Squirm> [09:51:59] .:Squirm:. disconnected 20min ago. boss is trying to get our bonded connection up
[08:42] <Squirm> [09:52:08] .:Squirm:. magespawn: you can self study and just do the exams
[08:42] <Squirm> [09:52:20] .:Squirm:. ex200 = RHCSA
[08:42] <Squirm> [09:52:38] .:Squirm:. I think the ex200 exam is about R2500/R3000
[08:44] <magespawn> ty Squirm
[08:44] <magespawn> that is usually the way i like to do things
[08:54] <Kilos> gonna be lotsa magestudy then
[08:55] <magespawn> that is a good thing Kilos
[08:56] <Kilos> yessir
[08:56] <Kilos> one can never know enough
[08:58] <Kilos> or too much should i say
[09:39] <magespawn> going to finish the others first
[10:00] <Symmetria> ugh why does multicast have to be such a pain in the ass to setup
[10:19]  * Symmetria filters hetzner in entirety from all the servers he runs
[10:32] <Squirm> superfly: another one of her osngs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCYN-KM6boA
[10:32] <Squirm> lol Symmetria
[10:32] <Squirm> shame :p
[10:32] <Squirm> s/osngs/songs/
[10:41] <Kilos> hi theblazehen Trixar_za 
[10:41] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[10:42]  * inetpro now has very mixed feelings after a call from Vodacom - they finally have a Note II in stock
[10:42] <Trixar_za> Hi Kilos
[10:42] <inetpro> now to decide, take it or wait?
[10:43] <theblazehen> inetpro, why not take it?
[10:43] <inetpro> theblazehen: the S4 is coming
[10:43] <theblazehen> ok
[10:43] <inetpro> and then CellC has just announced new pricing
[10:44] <theblazehen> nice
[10:44]  * inetpro needs to consider all options very carefully now
[10:44] <theblazehen> true
[10:45] <Squirm> I found someone coming from the States in 2 weeks
[10:45] <Squirm> Nexus 4, here I come
[10:45] <theblazehen> Squirm, awesome
[10:45] <inetpro> Squirm: that's a nice phone, but how does it stack up against the S4?
[10:46] <Squirm> inetpro: it's just better than the S3
[10:46] <Squirm> so it doesnt :P
[10:49] <Squirm> inetpro: besides being $350 USD to the 16Gb version
[10:49] <Squirm> s/to/for
[10:50] <inetpro> Squirm: $350 for the Nexus?
[10:50] <inetpro> that Nexus is from LG?
[10:51] <Squirm> inetpro: yep
[10:51] <Squirm> www.google.co.za/nexus/4
[10:52] <Squirm> the only downfall I can see. is it doesn't have an sd card slot
[10:52] <inetpro> those Nexus phones have always been good but I don't know LG to much
[10:52] <Squirm> but R3500 vs R7000 between the Nexus 4 and S3, just for a micro sd card
[10:52] <Squirm> well, I'm going out on a limb and trusting google on this one
[10:53] <Squirm> and hoping google made good judgement
[11:05] <magespawn> isn't the nexus 4 one of the phones that supports ubuntu touch?
[11:10] <Squirm> indeed
[11:13] <magespawn> that would swing it for me then
[11:40]  * inetpro wonders what makes it work for ubuntu touch, why can the newer devices not run ubuntu touch?
[11:41] <inetpro> surely it's just a matter of time until people have figured how to do it?
[11:41] <Squirm> inetpro: yeah it is
[11:42] <Squirm> I just it's getting it to work with the hardware
[11:54]  * magespawn would like someone to port to the n900
[12:07] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[12:08] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[12:41] <Kilos> inetpro: het jy opgelet die vliee is baie minder vanjaar
[12:56] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[12:57] <Kilos> i think its because of the increase of wasps, they eat fly larvae
[12:57] <inetpro> Squirm: note that with the nexus 4 you can't remove the battery
[12:58]  * inetpro looking at battery life I should get the Note II
[12:59] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh, that sounds like an interesting point
[12:59] <inetpro> I did notice as well
[12:59] <Kilos> they been min this year.
[12:59] <Squirm> inetpro: I know
[12:59] <Kilos> lekker though, flies are a big nuisance
[13:00] <inetpro> Squirm: just as long as you know
[13:00] <Kilos> ouch Squirm . battery goes you gotta buy a new fone
[13:00] <Squirm> inetpro: the price still puts it in my good books though :P
[13:00] <inetpro> I get very irritated about bad battery life of these modern phones
[13:02] <inetpro> so far I have found that after two years of usage it's time to replace a battery
[13:02] <Squirm> inetpro: thing is. for the same price. I have a choice between the Nexus 4 or the Gaaxy s2
[13:03] <Squirm> s/gaaxy/Galaxy
[13:03] <tonberry352_> does anyone import the nexus 4 at a decent price yet?
[13:03] <Squirm> tonberry352_: I couldnt fine anything
[13:03] <Squirm> I see the 8Gbs going for R5k on bidorbuy
[13:03] <tonberry352_> i gave up looking a while ago
[13:04] <Squirm> and Esquire also had them for about R5k, but they havent sold them for about 6months
[13:24] <magespawn> maybe cacell.co.za?
[13:24] <Squirm> R5k
[13:24] <magespawn> price fixing
[13:25] <Squirm> I lie
[13:25] <Squirm> R6k
[13:25] <magespawn> i like the look of the note II
[13:25] <Squirm> magespawn: it is nice. just a fair amount larger than the Nexus 4
[13:26] <Squirm> 5.5", I see the S4 is 5"
[13:26] <Squirm> S3 and Nexus 4 is 4.7"
[13:27] <magespawn> not much change
[13:28] <Squirm> S2 is 4.3" I think
[13:30] <Squirm> as a phone. the 4.7" is a push for me. I like the size of the S2
[13:30] <Squirm> even the S3 mini at 4"
[13:38] <magespawn> looks ways i would like the nokia lumnia 920
[13:38] <magespawn> lumia
[13:55] <Kilos> hey magespawn i think i found the prob with ians pc. not bios but psu
[13:55] <Kilos> watching to see if it crashes again
[13:55] <magespawn> really? what exactly?
[13:56] <Kilos> im lost. sometimes worked and other times not
[13:56] <Kilos> or would crash halfway through an install
[13:57] <magespawn> have you checked the voltage outputs on the psu?
[13:57] <Kilos> nope just swopped to see and it works with my psu in it
[13:58] <magespawn> ahh probable the cause then
[13:58] <Kilos> will put it in my pc and check voltages with pc health in bios
[13:58] <magespawn> but test and retest
[13:58] <Kilos> yeah
[14:00] <Symmetria> http://www.efnet.org/ <[14:00] <Symmetria> in the name of revenue
[14:02] <Squirm> magespawn: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Ultra-Power-Supply-Tester-Review
[14:02] <Squirm> I hope you have something like that
[14:06] <magespawn> something similar, mine does not look as good
[14:09] <Squirm> good. cause wow they're helpful
[14:18] <magespawn> anybody used/heard of these guys http://www.pifactory.co.za/Online
[14:21] <magespawn> Maaz USD to ZAR
[14:21] <Maaz> magespawn: Sorry...
[14:21] <magespawn> wrong command 
[14:23] <magespawn> Maaz google USD to ZAR
[14:23] <Maaz> magespawn: "USDZAR=X: Summary for USD/ZAR- Yahoo! Finance" http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=USDZAR=X :: "USD to ZAR Exchange Rate - Bloomberg" http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDZAR:CUR :: "USD to ZAR - Currency Converter" http://themoneyconverter.com/USD/ZAR.aspx :: "ZAR to USD - Currency Converter" http://themoneyconverter.com/ZAR/USD.aspx :: "Convert United States
[14:23] <Maaz> Dollars (USD) and South African Rand (ZAR ..." http://coinmill.com/USD_ZAR.html :: "XE.com …
[14:23] <magespawn> Maaz ty
[14:23] <Maaz> You are welcome magespawn
[14:33] <magespawn> later all, home time
[15:06] <psyatw> hi magespawn 
[15:06] <psyatw> hi Squirm 
[15:06] <psyatw> hi inetpro 
[15:08] <Kilos> they all on the way home methinks
[15:08] <psyatw> yeah, I think so too
[15:08] <psyatw> and I will do the same thing soon as well
[15:08] <inetpro> psyatw: sup?
[15:09] <psyatw> inetpro, I finally finished sending all the documents to my future employer, so now I have a few more weeks to finish setting up everything here at my friend's office before we're moving to Poland at the beginning of next month
[15:10] <psyatw> I was very tired for the past few days, I hope it will be better in the course of this week
[15:10] <psyatw> inetpro, and what about you?
[15:11] <inetpro> psyatw: what are you setting up?
[15:12] <psyatw> inetpro, the entire office environment here already runs ubuntu servers and kubuntu desktops, I just need to take care of a few last-minute things
[15:13] <inetpro> well in this channel you don't ask to ask, just ask
[15:15] <psyatw> of course, I know
[15:15] <psyatw> but I think in general I already know everything I need to know or I figure it out easily
[15:15] <psyatw> I just have some instabilities with ubuntu kernels, but I think I'll figure that out too
[15:16] <Trixar_za> What kind of instabilities? Which are the main culprits?
[15:17] <psyatw> the systems crash with a kernel dump and it's hard for me to pinpoint where exactly the problems lie
[15:18] <psyatw> I suspect they may be related to graphics, but I am not sure and I don't know much about kernel debugging (even if I know quite a bit about kernel internals)
[15:20] <inetpro> no trace in syslog?
[15:24] <miles__> ai!
[15:24] <inetpro> miles__: uh oh! What happened?
[15:25] <miles__> swopped modem from ians pc to mine
[15:25] <miles__> forgot that ghost command
[15:26] <inetpro> Maaz: ghost
[15:26] <Maaz> inetpro: ghost is /msg NickServ GHOST <nick> <password>
[15:26] <miles__> ty
[15:27] <inetpro> wb Kilos
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: BTW, an easy way for GUI guys to view system logs in KDE is ksystemlog
[15:27] <Kilos> ty inetpro 
[15:27] <Kilos> oh not the cat tail thingie
[15:27] <inetpro> just press Alt+F2 and type ksystemlog
[15:28] <tonberry352_> and hope it scrolls in the right direction...
[15:28] <Kilos> hehe
[15:28] <inetpro> and it's probably somewhere in your menu
[15:28] <psyatw> inetpro, I'll have a look later
[15:28] <inetpro> Kilos: under the System menu
[15:29] <Kilos> why you telling me this? my kde works
[15:29] <psyatw> but it's a bit embarrassing to experience these crashes while all other things work fine
[15:29] <inetpro> Kilos: for next time :-)
[15:29] <Kilos> ai!
[15:30] <Kilos> there must be a reason psyatw 
[15:30] <Kilos> inetpro: you remember much better than me
[15:30] <psyatw> Kilos, I think some patch in the kernel causes them, they didn't occur before with the desktops running on Slackware
[15:31] <Kilos> and you my friend so when i get stuck ill ask you
[15:31] <psyatw> but apart from that kubuntu works really well, I don't have anything to complain about it
[15:31] <inetpro> Kilos: go look at it, it's quite nifty
[15:32] <Kilos> whew lotsa info
[15:33] <Kilos> understanding what you see is the trick
[15:35] <Kilos> psyatw: there must be a way to see whats going wrong
[15:35] <Kilos> did you look at that ksystemlog
[15:40] <psyatw> Kilos, so far I haven't had a look at that, but I looked at dmesg before
[15:40] <psyatw> Kilos, I think I'll just try some unpatched ubuntu kernels and see how those perform
[15:41] <Kilos> ah
[15:41] <psyatw> I could learn about debugging kernels everything and I should, but now is not the right time for that
[15:43] <bakuman2> a
[15:43] <bakuman> b
[15:44] <Trixar_za> That reminds me
[15:44]  * Trixar_za strokes RazorQt
[15:44] <inetpro> bakuman: and c?
[15:45] <bakuman> ek ken nie die alfabet so ver nie
[15:45] <inetpro> ai!
[15:49] <Trixar_za> I love how people will always develop a lightweight alternative for every kind of enviroment
[15:50] <Trixar_za> For GNOME it's XFCE4 and (really lightweight) LXDE. For KDE there is now Razor-qt that uses Qt4 as it's base.
[15:59] <Tonberry_> and you can always go openbox or xmonad or a few others i cant remember
[16:00] <Kilos> Trixar_za: you using kde now?
[16:02] <Trixar_za> No, but I have Qt and GTK installed
[16:02] <Trixar_za> so I can play with Razor-qt
[16:03] <Trixar_za> Actually, it's the only reason besides VLC that I have Qt installed
[16:16] <Trixar_za> It's still a little hard to explain to people that I don't use Linux as a toy when I actually spend so much time playing with components for it.
[16:16] <Trixar_za> Well, it's not an average Window user's idea of a toy anyway :P
[16:16] <Trixar_za> Windows*
[16:38] <inetpro> yikes!
[16:39]  * inetpro just got a popup message "Your battery capacity is 48%. This means your battery is broken and needs a replacement."
[17:06] <Kilos> ouch inetpro 
[17:07] <inetpro> not sure what to make of that, see someone reporting that as a bug
[17:07] <inetpro> on gentoo that is
[17:07] <Kilos> cell battery?
[17:07] <inetpro> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-857650-view-previous.html?sid=f4da77c40ee69bfc44710e586109b13c
[17:07] <inetpro> Kilos: no, on the laptop
[17:07] <Kilos> oh lappy
[17:08] <Kilos> well lets hope its a bug and not a messed up battery
[17:08] <inetpro> sadly I can not see any value for the battery in the BIOS
[17:09] <Kilos> when last was it charged?
[17:09] <inetpro> it's always in the charger
[17:09] <Kilos> oh never allowed to run down some?
[17:09] <inetpro> very very seldom that I run with no power
[17:10]  * inetpro wbb
[17:10] <inetpro> dinner
[17:10] <Kilos> me too
[17:23] <Kilos> hi georgelappies 
[17:40] <inetpro> ok I was wrong
[17:40] <inetpro> today we had no power at home
[17:40] <inetpro> and my laptop must have run down
[17:41] <inetpro> left it on at home
[17:43] <inetpro> but perhaps it's memory is confused a bit... running now without power to see how things go
[17:44] <Kilos> whew
[17:44] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[17:44] <Kilos> i go bath now
[17:44] <Kilos> wbb
[17:45] <Cantide> hey Kilos :p
[17:45] <Cantide> see ya
[17:45] <Cantide> haha
[17:49] <Trixar_za> Ah, kbmonkey is the next meeting's chair
[17:52] <Cantide> cool :)
[17:54]  * inetpro watching battery losing it's power with: while :; do echo `date '+%T'` `upower -d | egrep "percentage|capacity"`; sleep 60;done
[17:54] <inetpro> 19:54:06 percentage: 77.8836% capacity: 48.4615%
[18:01] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[18:01] <Kilos> lol
[18:02] <Kilos> you understand that inetpro 
[18:02] <Kilos> how old is the lappy battery?
[18:03] <Kilos> arent they like cell phones. lucky if they make 2 years
[18:06] <Trixar_za> Right, burned through my 2G+1GB promo data
[18:07] <Kilos> whew so quick Trixar_za 
[18:07] <Kilos> not even 2 weeks
[18:07] <Trixar_za> First half was because I might be losing it at the end of that month
[18:08] <Trixar_za> So I only had a 1/4 of the data left at the beginning of the month
[18:08] <Trixar_za> Not bad though
[18:08] <Kilos> wow i thought you only bought it on the 1st
[18:09] <Kilos> i gotta check if its still available
[18:09] <Trixar_za> I think it was like the 19th or something
[18:09] <Kilos> ah
[18:09] <Trixar_za> Mostly downloaded games with it
[18:09] <Kilos> i hope they aint dumped it
[18:09] <Kilos> aha
[18:10] <Trixar_za> Let's see if http://onnet.8ta.com/ still lists it
[18:10] <Trixar_za> I have 120.73 on the phone as airtime already
[18:10] <Kilos> whew
[18:10] <Kilos> i got 17
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe
[18:11] <Trixar_za> So I just have to add like R30 to buy another bundle
[18:11] <Kilos> great thats if they aint dumped it
[18:11] <Kilos> then 129 gets 1g
[18:11] <Trixar_za> Yeah, it still shows on the onnet site
[18:12] <Kilos> maybe i must get it tonight. whats left here wont make the month end i think
[18:15] <Trixar_za> I'll get it tomorrow
[18:16] <Squirm> hello
[18:17] <inetpro> Kilos: SORRY, WAS ON THE PHONE
[18:17] <Kilos> np
[18:18] <inetpro> oops
[18:18] <Kilos> hello Squirm 
[18:18]  * inetpro not shouting
[18:18] <Kilos> np inetpro its easier to see
[18:18] <Kilos> hehe
[18:18] <inetpro> :-)
[18:18] <inetpro> 20:18:07 percentage: 31.7989% capacity: 48.4615%
[18:19] <Kilos> would be interesting to see what the capacity is after a full charge
[18:19] <inetpro> I think it's probably broken
[18:19] <inetpro> but it's not yet 2 years old
[18:20] <Kilos> looks like it yeah
[18:20] <Kilos> can you run it totally flat without losing anything?
[18:20] <inetpro> going down quickly now
[18:21] <inetpro> I think it will do a forced shutdown, let's see
[18:21] <inetpro> 20:21:07 percentage: 25.8201% capacity: 48.4615%
[18:21] <Kilos> yeah that capacity stays at 48.4615%
[18:24] <inetpro> now below 20
[18:27] <Kilos> are you playing music or something?
[18:27] <Kilos> or is it just the screen eating it
[18:27] <inetpro> 20:27:07 percentage: 12.4868% capacity: 48.4615%
[18:27] <inetpro> just the screen, plus web browsing
[18:27] <Kilos> whew
[18:28] <inetpro> web browsing is heavy on resources
[18:28] <Kilos> dont lose google youll be lost without it
[18:28] <inetpro> :-)
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Tonberry_> old version of the google+ site used to really hurt my battery life
[18:29] <Kilos> what do them batteries cost?
[18:29] <inetpro> I have no idea
[18:29] <Kilos> i think they are expensive
[18:30] <inetpro> battery critical now
[18:30] <Kilos> i wanted to get one for ians lappy once
[18:32] <inetpro> wow
[18:32] <inetpro> 20:32:14 percentage: 0% capacity: 48.4615%
[18:32] <inetpro> still running on 0%
[18:32] <inetpro> but it locked me out at about 2%
[18:33] <inetpro> just logged back in and am still running
[18:33] <Kilos> wow
[18:33] <inetpro> maybe it's that other 52%
[18:34] <inetpro> or rather 51.5385%
[18:34] <Cantide> it drains quickly though 'o'
[18:38] <inetpro> Cantide: yep it does, but I have always seen it drain quickly on this Mecer
[18:38] <inetpro> even when it was still new... at the office I have a Dell that lasts much longer
[18:38] <inetpro> this will be very interesting
[18:39] <Cantide> do SSDs improve battery life drastically?
[18:40] <Kilos> the old cell batteries used to remember a certain limit if you charged daily when half flat
[18:41] <Kilos> and didnt use the bottom half. said battery flat. so you had to totally drain them and charge from scratch
[18:41] <Kilos> yo kbmonkey 
[18:41] <kbmonkey> yo Kilos 
[18:41] <kbmonkey> how goes it laddie?
[18:41] <Kilos> ols alcatel even had a battery drain facility
[18:41] <Kilos> good ty kbmonkey  and you?
[18:42] <Kilos> s/ols/old
[18:42] <Cantide> hey kbmonkey '<
[18:42] <inetpro> still running on 0%
[18:43] <Kilos> Cantide: most likely because theres no moving parts\
[18:43] <Kilos> wb georgelappies 
[18:43] <georgelappies> Thanks Kilos :)
[18:43] <Cantide> Kilos, yeah, but i wonder by how much
[18:44] <Kilos> solid state devices should be thrifty compared to or donary drives
[18:44] <Kilos> and should be faster too
[18:45] <Kilos> ordinary
[18:46] <inetpro> ok, that was it
[18:46] <Kilos> flat inetpro ?
[18:46] <inetpro> just about a second after my last message it went dead
[18:47] <Kilos> ok charge and we see inna morn what the capacity is
[18:47] <inetpro> now back on power and:
[18:47] <inetpro> 20:47:15 percentage: 8.16024% capacity: 51.8462%
[18:47] <Kilos> its gone up
[18:47] <inetpro> yep, but not by much for now
[18:48] <Kilos> lol maybe a few discharges will get it back to normal
[18:48] <inetpro> ai!
[18:48] <Kilos> hehe
[18:48] <Kilos> you never know but buy a new one anyway
[18:49] <Kilos> s4 will have to wait
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: but maybe you are right
[18:49] <Kilos> lets hope
[18:49] <inetpro> maybe it's capacity went down over time
[18:50] <inetpro> perhaps each time I shutdown without power before it was completely run down
[18:50] <Kilos> its actually not wise to leave a battery with charger on 24/7
[18:50] <Kilos> most batteries anyway
[18:50] <Kilos> dunno all the new stuff
[18:51] <Kilos> what does your friend say?
[18:53] <inetpro> Kilos: me friend?
[18:54] <Kilos> google dodo
[18:55] <inetpro> hmm... good question... have not researched enough to make up an informed idea around the issue
[18:55] <Kilos> lol
[18:56] <Kilos> i spose they only gaurantee them for a year
[18:56] <Kilos> whew
[18:56] <Kilos> Maaz: spell gaurantee
[18:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: Guarantee or guarantee
[18:56] <Kilos> oh ya ua
[18:56] <Kilos> oh no
[18:56] <Kilos> that still looks wrong
[18:57] <Kilos> waarborg then
[19:02] <Kilos> kom nou inetpro ek wil nag se man
[19:04] <inetpro> Kilos: waarvoor wag jy?
[19:04] <Kilos> um
[19:05] <Kilos> i asked about die waarborg
[19:05] <inetpro> ai!
[19:05] <inetpro> Maaz: is right man
[19:05] <Maaz> inetpro: Excuse me?
[19:05] <inetpro> Maaz: define guarantee
[19:05] <Maaz> inetpro: Guarantee \Guar`an*tee"\, n.; pl. {Guarantees}. [For guaranty, prob. influenced by words like assignee, lessee, etc. See {Guaranty}, and cf. {Warrantee}.] 1. In law and common usage: A promise to answer for the payment of some debt, or the performance of some duty, in case of the failure of another person, who is, in the first instance, liable to such
[19:05] <Maaz> payment or performance; an engagement which secures or insures another against a contingency;…
[19:05] <inetpro> oops... Kilos: Maaz is right man
[19:05] <Kilos> nee man is it a year waarborg
[19:06] <inetpro> Maaz: define warranty
[19:06] <Maaz> inetpro: Warranty \War"rant*y\, n.; pl. {Warranties}. [OF. warantie, F. garantie. See {Warrant}, n., and cf. {Guaranty}.] [1913 Webster] 1. (Anc. Law) A covenant real, whereby the grantor of an estate of freehold and his heirs were bound to warrant and defend the title, and, in case of eviction by title paramount, to yield other lands of equal value in recompense.
[19:06] <Maaz> This warranty has long singe become obsolete, and its place supplied by personal covenant…
[19:06] <inetpro> Kilos: probably warranty
[19:06] <Kilos> i wish maaz would not give 2 posts like that
[19:07] <inetpro> sorry oom
[19:07] <Kilos> i aksed is it for a year only
[19:07] <Kilos> ai!
[19:07] <Kilos> ek sukkel darem
[19:07] <inetpro> oh, I have no idea to be honest
[19:07] <Kilos> lol
[19:07] <Kilos> ok then sleep tight all
[19:07] <inetpro> if it doesn't improve I'll just log a call at the office
[19:08] <Kilos> ok lemme know
[19:08] <inetpro> they should give me a new one
[19:08] <Kilos> thats lekker
[19:30] <Squirm> night people of KZN
[19:30] <Cantide> night Squirm 'o'
[19:31] <Squirm> I mean
[19:31] <Squirm> ZA
[19:51] <inetpro> good night Squirm