[10:05] <jP_wanN> hello
[10:05] <jP_wanN> is this the right place to ask something about the ubuntu-android project?
[10:05] <ogra_`> well, ask and we'll see
[10:07] <jP_wanN> it's about the OUYA. That's a new android-based console. I wanted to know whether Ubuntu android could run on there
[10:07] <jP_wanN> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
[10:08] <jP_wanN> a friend of mine got positive feedback from the OUYA CEO about a partnership with canonical.
[10:08] <jP_wanN> http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/646/ubuntu-for-ouya
[10:09] <jP_wanN> but we didn't get any response when writing to canonical via mail
[10:18] <kulve> why ubuntu-android? Why not plain android?
[10:18] <kulve> argh
[10:18] <kulve> why ubuntu-android? Why not plain ubuntu?
[10:21] <ogra_`> jP_wanN, well, would you want to have "ubuntu for android" which essentially acts like an app ... or would you want to actually run ubuntu (whouch would be Ubuntu Touch, which also is android based but a full OS)
[10:22] <ogra_`> while there is the opportunity to run a plain ubuntu as well, with the switch to Mir you really want ubuntu touch on such a device (unless you want to run it as a plain server)
[10:22] <kulve> why not X.Org?
[10:23] <jP_wanN> well, I'll definitely try to install normal ubuntu on it as soon as I have a console to play with
[10:23] <jP_wanN> but the question was about running ubuntu as an app within the preinstalled system
[10:24] <ogra_`> right, thats ubuntu for android ... which is actually depending on the manufacturer talking to canonical directly
[10:25] <jP_wanN> okay, thanks for the information
[10:25] <jP_wanN> but is there a way to install ubuntu for android on an existing system?
[10:26] <ogra_`> there are no public images for it
[10:26] <jP_wanN> I know it is officially only possible to have it preinstalled
[10:26] <ogra_`> so no ... there isnt
[10:27] <ogra_`> it needs pretty close system integration, so canonical requires collaboration from the manufacturer for this
[10:27] <ogra_`> i guess ubuntu touch is your best bet
[10:27] <ogra_`> and i'm sure as soon as the first ouyas show up in the wild at developer desks someone will port it
[10:28] <jP_wanN> well, the OUYA team supports hacking the device (not that sure what's about the guarantee)
[10:28] <ogra_`> porting UTouch is pretty trivial
[10:28] <jP_wanN> well, not the downloading part :D
[10:28] <ogra_`> took me a weekend to port it to my galays S2
[10:28] <jP_wanN> cool thing
[10:28] <jP_wanN> I'll ask you again
[10:28] <jP_wanN> about something else
[10:28] <jP_wanN> but first, about the ouya
[10:29] <ogra_`> kulve, xorg drivers suck ... Mir can make use of the existing android GL drivers
[10:29] <jP_wanN> if there were official images, it would be possible to replace the existing system with an android build with ubuntu android, right?
[10:31] <ogra_`> right
[10:31] <jP_wanN> okay
[10:32] <jP_wanN> well than the main thing to get ubuntu android on the current version of OUYA is probably to wait for images
[10:32] <jP_wanN> but now about porting ubuntu touch
[10:32] <ogra_`> the ouya should be pretty close to the nexus7 HW wise ...
[10:33] <ogra_`> you couold use the nexus7 desktop image on it with slight modifications i guess
[10:33] <jP_wanN> ubuntu touch on OUYA is something I'll face somewhen else
[10:33] <jP_wanN> but I've got an Sony Xperia Sola on which I want to install ubuntu touch
[10:34] <jP_wanN> actually I only bought it to try ubuntu touch on it
[10:35] <jP_wanN> it's the only smartphone with good enough HW for ubuntu touch, a microSD slot and less than 4" display width
[10:35] <ogra_`> well, if it isnt on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices yet ... you will have to port it yourself
[10:35] <jP_wanN> yes, I know
[10:35] <ogra_`> (there is also the #ubuntu-touch channel btw)
[10:35] <jP_wanN> but my internet connection is so slow, I'll let a friend download those 15GB sources :D
[10:35] <ogra_`> :)
[10:35] <jP_wanN> okay
[10:36] <ogra_`> yeah, its a bit painful
[10:36] <ogra_`> i left it suckling over a weekend here ... that worked fine
[10:36] <jP_wanN> I read that Ubuntu Touch uses some parts of cyanogenmod
[10:36] <ogra_`> yup
[10:36] <ogra_`> kernel, drivers and the hardware abstraction layer
[10:37] <jP_wanN> could I get into trouble because the Xperia Sola is not supported by cyanogenmod?
[10:37] <ogra_`> on top of that you have a normal ubuntu rootfs
[10:37] <ogra_`> you would have to port it to CM first ... or find an unofficial CM 10.1 port, yes
[10:37] <jP_wanN> sounds a lot of fun ^^°
[10:38] <ogra_`> heh
[10:38] <jP_wanN> but probably I don't have to do that
[10:38] <jP_wanN> there is an unofficial port
[10:38] <jP_wanN> http://freexperiaproject.com/
[10:38] <jP_wanN> but I don't know for which CM version
[10:38] <jP_wanN> oh found it
[10:38] <jP_wanN> only v 9
[10:39] <jP_wanN> well that'll take some time I think
[10:39] <jP_wanN> but thanks :)
[10:39] <ogra_`> good luck :)
[12:43] <marvin24> janimo`: I failed to upload a kernel package to launchpad due to version name problems
[12:43] <marvin24> I put an archive of the source package to http://tinyurl.com/c9hwg3u
[12:43] <marvin24> there's nothing more I can do I guess :-(
[13:40] <ogra_> marvin24, did you try to delete the old upload first ?
[13:41] <ogra_> that should theretically work
[14:00] <marvin24> ogra_: I couldn't
[14:00] <marvin24> it is not shown on the delete page
[14:00] <ogra_> you own the PPA, you should be able to
[14:00] <marvin24> also launchpad forbits pushing the same version twice
[14:00] <marvin24> ogra_: yes, this could work though
[14:01] <marvin24> will try later again
[14:01] <ogra_> ++
[14:01] <ogra_> tell me if it doesnt
[14:01] <ogra_> i think i used that way in the past and it used to work
[14:55] <marvin24> ok, uploading ...
[14:55] <marvin24> I guess that's why there is a "UNRELEASED" tag in the changes files instead of the disto name
[14:57] <ogra_> well, thats to prevent you from accidentially uploading something unfinished
[15:14] <marvin24> ah, so I cannot upload such a package - I thought that it will just not be published
[15:14] <ogra_> it will reject it (or should at least)
[15:17] <marvin24> so how to check if a package actually builds on launchpad without wasting a precious version number?
[15:18] <marvin24> ok, personal ppa
[15:19] <marvin24> arr, need to enable armhf on personal ppa
[15:20] <ogra_> well, one mail
[15:20] <marvin24> to czajkowski ?
[15:20] <ogra_> yeah, i think so
[15:21] <marvin24> ah, last time I did it via questions interface
[15:22] <ogra_> yeah, that should work too
[15:22] <ogra_> but might help to ping here as well
[15:22] <ogra_> *her
[19:30] <rookie2030> hi everybody
[19:32] <rookie2030> its possible to connect in one eth port the router cable with DHCP and the other eth port the cable to PC and have the same IP
[19:35] <rookie2030> i have a dreamplug
[19:35] <rookie2030> with 2 ports ethernet
[19:45] <rookie2030> I have a sheeva plug with 2 ethernet port and i need to connect one port to internet and the other port to my computer its possible to do in linux
[19:46] <rookie2030> uses as physical link but i need to use the sheeva plug