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ia0001hello is there a reason why ubuntu flash isnt working03:21
ia0001i mean why flash isnt working on server 12.0403:21
BigWhaleGood Morning.03:27
robert_ancelldesrt, around?03:52
pitti_Good morning06:30
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didrocksbonjour pitti!06:31
pittihey  didrocks06:32
desrthello from european time06:59
didrockshey desrt! how is your jetlag? :)07:00
desrti don't have any yet :)07:00
desrti sure hope to stay that way...07:01
didrocksheh, let's hope you will follow that path in the following days ;)07:01
desrtattente: when you wake up, i just pushed the gtk patch to the 'gicon is a bad interface' bug07:01
desrtfor your testing pleasure07:02
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desrtlarsu: got wifi on the train? :)07:10
desrtdoes anyone know of a good system in C for handling python-style named format strings?07:16
desrtlike how you can have '%(foo)s' % {'foo':'bar'}07:16
* desrt goes to catch a train. ciao.07:23
seb128hey desktopers07:48
pittibonjour seb12807:50
didrockssalut seb12807:50
chrisccoulsonhey seb128, pitti, didrocks07:50
pittihey chrisccoulson07:51
didrockshey chrisccoulson!07:51
seb128hey chrisccoulson, didrocks, pitti, how are you?07:51
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you?07:51
pittipretty tired, I slept badly; but fine otherwise; how about you?07:51
seb128chrisccoulson, good to see you still around on the desktop channel ;-)07:51
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm good, thanks07:51
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i've not moved that far really ;)07:52
seb128pitti, I'm good, slept mostly well (though I woke up a couple of time during the night, not sure why, but I managed to go back to sleep every time without issue)07:52
seb128chrisccoulson,  how is it to work on a new laptop boosted with disk space and extra ram? ;-)07:52
pittiwe had a pretty tough storm and a lot of rain during the night07:52
pittichrisccoulson: oh, you got a new toy?07:52
chrisccoulsonseb128, it's pretty good. i can comfortably run 9 VM's on it and still be able to compile firefox07:53
pittiwow, must be a helluva machine07:53
chrisccoulsonpitti, yeah, i got a new latitude, but i stuck 16GB of RAM in it and one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Series-512GB-Solid-State/dp/B009LI7CYE/07:54
pittichrisccoulson: ah, a friend of mine recently bought the 300-something GB variant of that, he's very satisfied07:54
pittichrisccoulson: tried running gnome disks' performance check on it?07:55
chrisccoulsonpitti, not yet. i might try that in a bit :)07:55
pittimy 3 year old SSD gives me 210 MB/s still (started with 250), I can only imagine how fast your's is now :)07:56
pittibut actually, I never felt it being a bottleneck07:57
pittihaving a lot of RAM is quite a bit more important07:57
seb128pitti, how do you test it? "disks" seem to not want the disk to be mounted to be able to test it07:58
pittiwith /tmp/ being a tmpfs, putting sbuild overlays into /tmp etc., there is hardly anythign that actually touches the disk during large package builds07:58
pittiseb128: you can do a r/o test on a mounted partition07:58
pittiseb128: for r/w you need to boot a live system, yes07:58
chrisccoulsonpitti, yeah, i think your SSD performance is similar to my last one (intel 320 series)07:58
seb128"Erreur pendant la recherche depuis 2400788480 (g-io-error-quark, 13)"07:58
chrisccoulsoni haven't tried building firefox in tmpfs yet. i have enough RAM to do that now though :)07:59
pittiseb128: hm, I get a dialog box saying "busy" when requesting a write test, and a read test just works07:59
seb128"Error seeking to offset 2400788480 (g-io-error-quark, 13)"07:59
seb128on a read test08:00
seb128no benchmark for me it seems08:00
pittiany smart failures?08:00
chrisccoulsonpitti, Average Read Rate: 526.6 MB/s :)08:02
chrisccoulsoni couldn't do the write test either though08:02
pittichrisccoulson: yeah, you need to boot a life CD for that08:03
chrisccoulsonah, ok08:03
pittiit's not destructive, but can't be run on a mounted drive to avoid endangering data integrity08:03
chrisccoulsonyeah, that makes sense :)08:03
didrocks502,0 Mo/s here ;)08:04
chrisccoulsondidrocks, nice :)08:04
pittiwhat is a Mo?08:05
didrockspitti: MB, but better, as in French ;)08:05
* pitti holds up the "SI units tout le monde" cardboard sign08:05
didrocksoct = 808:05
pittiwell, but one doesn't translate SI units08:06
didrocksso we don't have the bits/bytes issue ;)08:06
seb128so I'm the only one having the seek error? not fair!08:06
didrocksseb128: it seems so, you disable write tests, right?08:06
chrisccoulsonthe french have to be different ;)08:06
pittiseb128: I never saw that error anywhere, and I have run disks on quite a lot of machines08:06
seb128didrocks, yes, I've a busy disk message if I don't08:06
didrockschrisccoulson: pitti: but don't worry, we do have as well the Mio/Mo war as well ;)08:06
Laneyhey there08:06
seb128pitti, disks works fine, that's just the benchmark doing that08:06
chrisccoulsonhey Laney08:07
pittiright, I meant the benchmark08:07
pittiseb128: it probably gets confused on seeking to the 100th Mo!08:07
didrockshey Laney!08:07
pittigood morning Laney08:07
Laneyhey chrisccoulson didrocks pitti!08:07
didrocksseb128: you will notice that pitti adapted to "Mo" already \o/08:07
Laneyhappy wednesday08:07
seb128Laney, hey08:07
* pitti slaps didrocks08:08
Laneyand seb128 too :-)08:08
* didrocks runs away crying08:08
seb128pitti, at least I'm not alone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/108101908:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 1081019 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Benchmark for Harddisk fail" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:08
seb128pitti, my bet is that it hates 32bit users and you are all 64bits fanboys :p08:10
pittiseb128: peut-être nous pouvons le regarder au sprint?08:10
seb128pitti, oui, bien sûr08:10
pittiseb128: c'est facile, test avec un live CD?08:10
seb128pitti, je vais le faire et je te dirais08:11
pittiseb128: I run 32 bit on the netbook, and it works fine there08:11
seb128how big is the disk?08:11
didrocksNo opinion on semantic versionning? I would like to impose it for our PS projects.08:11
pitti16 GB08:11
pittiseb128: ^ that's the mini 1008:11
seb128k, anyway, I will try with a liveCD08:11
seb128and otherwise we can have a look at the sprint08:11
Laneymy, what a pretty wallpaper I have08:16
Laneywould be more useful with a desktop environment on top of it though08:16
seb128Laney, you don't enjoy clean and simple then?08:17
didrocksit's the "zen" theme :)08:17
Laneytaking "minimal" to the (almost) extreme08:17
seb128Laney, joke aside, is  that your session ... did it just break after today's update?08:17
LaneyI still have a context menu to change the wallpaper or create folders :P08:17
LaneyI didn't update yet today, so yesterday's08:17
didrocksso just no Unity08:17
seb128oh, "only" unity having issue then08:17
seb128what is in your .xsession-errors?08:18
Laneyjust something from ib-config08:18
seb128ah, I always forget08:18
Laneybut I am using user sessions08:18
Laneylet me poke, might be local borkage08:19
seb128we need to teach apport about upstart logs btw08:19
seb128pitti, ^08:19
seb128pitti, I will open a bug about that (if there isn't already one)08:19
pittiseb128: you mean attaching /var/log/upstart/<service>.log for system reports?08:20
pittithey aren't readable for adm (I think that's a bug)08:20
Laney~/.cache/upstart/foo.log for user jobs08:20
seb128pitti, no, with upstart user sessions (that will be the default for Ubuntu soon), .xsession-errors is empty08:20
pittihm, I don't even have a ~/.cache/upstart08:20
seb128pitti, gnome-session is started by upstart and its output is in .cache/upstart/<job>.log08:20
seb128pitti, did you enable user sessions?08:21
pittiseb128: not deliberately; I just keep dist-upgrading08:21
seb128pitti, ok, edit /etc/upstart-xsessions if you want to enable it08:21
seb128just uncomment the ubuntu line08:21
pittiah, so we don't do that by default yet08:21
seb128no, it was a bit late08:22
seb128one of the "first thing in "s""08:22
seb128pitti, it's ready, the FFe didn't got acked because it came a bit late08:22
seb128same story that logind08:22
pittiI guess we'll enable a lot of that at the sprint08:23
pittisquishy will be fun in the first few weeks08:23
Laneythe main issue at the time was Xsession.d scripts needing to be ported to jobs08:23
Laneythink the most important ones are done now08:24
seb128pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/116719608:25
ubot2Launchpad bug 1167196 in apport (Ubuntu) "should look for errors in upstart log once user sessions are enabled" [Undecided,New]08:25
pittiseb128: thanks, adjusted; it's on https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+upcomingwork now :)08:26
* pitti loves +upcomingwork08:26
Laneycompiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded.08:28
Laneywould that break it?08:28
seb128Laney, most likely yes08:28
seb128did you break permissions on your video card again?08:29
pittiI did that a couple of times when working on logind ACLs, and unity still started up (in llvmpipe mode)08:29
LaneyI get all 'yes' when running unity_support_test -p08:30
seb128Laney, is compiz working for other users?08:32
Laneygood point, i'll try the guest user08:34
Laneyyes :(08:34
seb128Laney, do you have a local opengl plugin in .compiz-1 or something?08:34
seb128Laney, try to strace -f compiz 2>&1 | grep opengl08:35
seb128see where it's loading it from08:35
seb128Laney, what is in this file?08:42
seb128ignore that, I've it there as well08:42
seb128Laney, but it should be trying to load an opengl.so08:42
seb128Laney, gsettings get org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins08:43
Laney['core', 'ccp', 'composite', 'decor', 'compiztoolbox', 'imgpng', 'gnomecompat', 'place', 'mousepoll', 'grid', 'snap', 'move', 'resize', 'regex', 'session', 'vpswitch', 'workarounds']08:44
Laneyno opengl?08:44
* Laney tries moving the .cache directory08:47
seb128Laney, reset the gsettings key I would say08:48
seb128but then go figure why it went missing08:48
Laneyright, that fixed it ...08:50
Laney['core', 'composite', 'opengl', 'compiztoolbox', 'decor', 'vpswitch', 'snap', 'mousepoll', 'resize', 'place', 'move', 'wall', 'grid', 'regex', 'imgpng', 'session', 'gnomecompat', 'animation', 'fade', 'unitymtgrabhandles', 'workarounds', 'scale', 'expo', 'ezoom', 'unityshell']08:50
Laneydoes it remove plugins from that list when they fail to load once?08:50
seb128it shouldn't, but I guess it does...08:50
seb128or there are case where that seems to happen at least08:50
seb128that's the only explanation I've for it08:51
Laneybecause nvidia-310 is borked with new kernels (tseliot is on it) and so I got nouveau for one boot before I went back to an old kernel08:51
tseliotLaney: -310, -310-updates, -304 and -304-updates should be fixed now in raring-proposed08:52
Laneytseliot: I don't see them - probably in the queue08:53
Laneyah yes, there they are08:53
Laneydid you just get rid of the check or did you fix it up?08:53
tseliotLaney: well, I simply removed the check to see if SUBLEVEL is less than 508:54
Laneyfair enough08:54
seb128Laney, btw, I registered https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-use-upstart-user-sessions while you were on holidays (just for info)10:00
seb128Laney, if you have ideas where we can use upstart session jobs, please dump them in there10:00
Laneyah great, thank you10:01
darkxstseb128, do you know where things are at, with the region panel in g-c-c? is ubuntu still using language-selector10:35
seb128yes, it is10:35
seb128the new GNOME stuff is a semi fiasco10:35
seb128as it ibus 1.510:35
seb128that's starting getting slightly better in GNOME 3.8 but still broken10:36
darkxstyeh, I see10:38
darkxstthe 3.8 regions tab is basically non-functional currently10:39
darkxst(as on staging)10:39
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seb128Laney, that's not enough for the merger :p12:45
seb128Laney, it's easy, the automatic entries come from bugs referenced12:46
seb128if you don't have a one you should manually edit the changelog12:46
LaneyI'm sure I asked if the MP commit message works12:47
ritzseb128++ thanks12:47
didrocksthat what I pointed to you yesterday ^12:47
didrockson #ubuntu-release12:47
seb128Laney, well, the merge checks that there is a MP commit message and refuse the merge if there is none12:47
seb128Laney, but it doesn't use the message for the changelog12:47
seb128Laney, also please submit against https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk.13.04 for raring12:48
Laneyack and ack12:48
didrocks(see Vcs-Bzr btw :p)12:48
seb128thanks ;-)12:48
LaneyI did bzr lp-propose12:48
seb128well, you brancked from lp:libappindicator12:48
didrocksLaney: if you branched from trunk, it's targetting trunk for sure ;)12:48
seb128or lp:libappindicator/13.0412:48
seb128that's why ;-)12:48
Laneydoes it get merged into trunk too?12:49
seb128well, the one you submitted is for trunk12:49
didrocksLaney: no, upstream splitted the branch12:49
seb128you need to proposed a second merge against 13.0412:49
didrocksfor no reason TBH seeing they didn't use them12:49
seb128you can do it from the same branch though, they didn't diverge yet12:49
Laneyoh, do another one not get rid of this one12:49
didrocks(even if the system supports splitting them one after another, on demand)12:49
Laneyfinal question - does it matter what upstream version I choose when editing the changelog?12:50
LaneyI guess the release bot just overwrites it12:50
didrocksLaney: yeah, see the FAQ ;)12:51
* didrocks wonders why he's explaining everything where he links to the page and people don't search through it :/12:51
Laneyhey, I did read it12:51
Laneybut the example there doesn't have daily version numbers12:52
Laneyit seems to me like those are automatic, but that one looks like they're manually maintained12:52
didrocksYou need then mention it manually in debian/changelog: If there is already an UNRELEASED content (top line in debian/changelog), add your content with:12:52
didrocks$ dch -a12:52
didrocks-> edit the change and save.12:52
didrocksIf it's something like "raring" or something else:12:52
didrocks$ dch -i12:52
didrocks-> edit the change and save.12:52
didrocksI don't mention the version, so you can just follow it and go ahead ;)12:52
LaneyI was reading the next question12:52
didrocksLaney: the next one is when you need to do it, like you want to "release unity 7"12:53
didrocksLaney: feel free to reedit/rearrange if it's not clear12:54
LaneyI suppose that it's not clear to me what "bumping the upstream version" means12:55
Laneylike I thought I might have to set the upstream part myself because I'm making upstream changes12:55
didrocksLaney: upstream have unity 6.812:55
didrocksLaney: they want to mark the new upstream version as 7.012:55
didrocksso it's hitting them they need to bump in debian/changelog as well12:56
didrocks(each title is an entry/separate question in the FAQ)12:56
Laneylet me edit it and you can see if I get it right12:56
didrockssure ;)12:56
Laneyright, there we go13:00
LaneyInternal Server Error13:00
Laneyah, got it13:00
Laneydidrocks: check that out?13:03
Laneysorry for being dense btw :/13:03
didrocksLaney: I would change "if you're moving from Unity 7.0 to 7.1." to the versions used in the following example13:05
didrocksotherwise, looking good :)13:05
didrocksoh, btw, I wrote something a while back especially for package maintainers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I.27m_making_a_change.2C_should_I_provide_anything_in_debian.2BAC8-changelog.3F13:05
Laneyyeah I put some text there too13:06
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didrocksLaney: btw, on this dch -i/dch -a13:07
didrocksLaney: do you know if debchange has an easier way?13:07
LaneyI just use 'dch' all the time13:07
LaneyI have DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog in ~/.devscripts which I know does something in this area but I can't remember exactly what13:08
didrocksLaney: good point! it's years I didn't use it!13:08
didrocksyeah, but DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog is the default now13:08
didrocksso, we should be fine without it13:08
didrocks(I have it too)13:08
Laneyaha, then I think you can just 'dch'13:08
Laneyit adds a new entry if you're UNRELEASED, otherwise creates a whole new stanza13:08
didrocksLaney: tell me if/once you changed the versionning and I'll simplify the rest with only "dch"13:09
didrocks(confirming DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC is set to changelog now by default)13:09
Laneyyeah, I just checked and it is13:10
didrocksLaney: all dch -i/-a killed :)13:29
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didrocksmhall119: hey, how are you?14:06
mhall119didrocks: I am14:06
mhall119oh, I thought you asked if I was around14:06
mhall119my answer makes much more sense to the question you didn't ask14:06
didrocksmhall119: ahah, indeed!14:06
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didrocksmhall119: I wanted to know when the developer site will get updated to the latest sdk?14:07
didrocksmhall119: as last time I checked, the examples in the doc weren't working with the sdk we ship14:07
mhall119didrocks: they just recently landed dpm's patch to add the proper theming, so as soon as that's in a package that his script can extract the new docs from14:07
mhall119didrocks: I'm also working on updating the tutorial for the new version of the SDK14:08
didrocksmhall119: a package, like the sdk package?14:08
mhall119didrocks: yeah, the docs package for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit I think14:08
didrocksmhall119: its already in raring for a while :)14:08
mhall119or 0.1.40 I should say14:08
didrockswe do have 0.1.3814:09
didrockswhich doesn't work with the current tutorial14:09
didrocks(bug #1158246)14:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Tutorial code needs to be updated to use the latest UITK version" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115824614:09
kenvandinedidrocks, if a commit doesn't reference a bug # but the merge proposal does, will it get put in the changelog automatically?14:10
didrockskenvandine: yep, if you link it to the MP before it was merged :)14:10
didrocks(linking the branch of course)14:11
mhall119didrocks: 1158246 is in progress now14:11
didrocksmhall119: ok, any ETA? it's broken for 3/4 weeks and I noticed a lot of people start to complain about it14:11
didrocks(including management :p)14:11
mhall119didrocks: no ETA other than "as soon as I can get it done"14:12
didrocksjasoncwarner_, Mirv: FYI as you probably wanted a status on that ^14:12
mhall119I didn't write the original, so it's slow going14:12
didrocksyeah, would have been nice to get a raw approximation, but here we go ;)14:13
didrocksthanks mhall11914:13
mhall119didrocks: np14:13
debfxhi, why does libappindicator recommend indicator-application?14:42
debfxare other implementations of the statusnotifier protocol not sufficient?14:42
seb128debfx, hey, because if you don't have an indicator the ui is nowhere to be seen which "breaks" the user experience14:42
seb128debfx, they should, it's only a recommends14:43
debfxseb128: right, but shouldn't it recommend indicator-renderer as an alternative?14:49
seb128debfx, indicator-application is a service, not the renderer14:49
seb128debfx, the renderer are unity, indicator-applet, and whatever KDE is using to draw the ui14:50
seb128debfx, having you a "renderer" doesn't give you the container for the appindicator icons14:50
debfxso indicator-application is between the application and  the renderer?14:53
seb128debfx, yes15:09
kenvandinedesrt, do you know if anyone has started porting dconf-qt to qt5?15:22
dobeydidrocks: btw, you know the current unity gir package has the wrong verssion number in the package name? it's gir1.2-unity-5.0 but has Unity-6.0.typelib and UnityExtras-6.0.typelib15:34
didrocksmhr3: IIRC, we discussed about it in quantal ^15:34
didrocksI don't remember the outcome :)15:35
mhr3didrocks, i guess it was again about scopes - the unity-5.0 ones wouldn't work anyway, and unless you specify version number the latest version is imported eitherway15:36
didrocksmhr3: yeah, that was my feeling. I think we'll fix it in s for the 100 scopes (the override seems useless to me, so we can maybe have them parallely installable)15:37
mhr3bottomline, yes, it should be 6.0, but having 5.0 there wouldn't help anyone15:37
didrockslet's wait for the scope ABI break then :)15:37
mhr3not sure if there'll be abi breaks15:38
mhr3probably mostly api breaks :P15:39
mitya57kenvandine: there is ~fboucault/dconf-qt/qt5, but last updated on 2012-10-05...15:49
kenvandineoh cool15:50
kenvandinethx mitya5715:50
seb128everyone, can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview with the cool things you landed in raring?16:10
seb128didrocks, ^ can you do unity?16:11
seb128cyphermox, ^ indicators?16:11
seb128kenvandine, ^ friends?16:11
seb128mterry, ^ update-manager?16:11
kenvandinewas just thinking about that :)16:11
didrockswill do16:11
seb128Sweetshark, ^ libreoffice? if you have a nice description of what's new in 4 ... btw got the current version sponsored by bdrung?16:13
seb128tkamppeter, ^ summary of the printing work would be useful as well16:13
cyphermoxseb128: ok!16:36
seb128cyphermox, thanks16:37
cyphermoxmterry: kenvandine: goes under Ubuntu directly? should we agree on a semblance of a structure/format? ;)16:37
cyphermoxlike, points I guess?16:38
mterrycyphermox, looks like upstart user sessions have a template already -- bold header, free form paragraphs below16:38
mterrycyphermox, indicators are under ubuntu I'd think yeah16:39
cyphermoxok, so let's use that16:49
mterrycyphermox, still feeling like reviewing some branches?  :)17:02
cyphermoxshoot, I can review things and then actually finally go for lunch ;)17:07
Sweetsharkseb128: adding libreoffice to the wiki17:19
seb128Sweetshark, thanks17:19
Sweetsharkseb128: I havent seen bdrung sponsor the new version yet. no blockers known to me though.17:19
bdrungseb128, Sweetshark: i did the upload yesterday (with the one typo patch). it's in the queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=117:21
* didrocks waves good evening17:23
seb128bdrung, great, thanks17:23
seb128didrocks, 'night17:23
jbichaseb128: gnome's printer panel won't add a new printer without system-config-printer-gnome being installed? is it ok to have g-c-c depend on that?17:34
jbichait's bug 116367417:34
ubot2Launchpad bug 1163674 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Adding a printer crashes Gnome Control Center (System Settings)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116367417:34
seb128jbicha, recommends I would say17:36
jbichaok, thanks17:51
Sweetsharkseb128: done (I hope)17:56
seb128Sweetshark, is there anything you wanted to point in those pages? out of "french \o/" and "skype sucks"? ;-)18:45
seb128Sweetshark, you guys should just give up and use google hangouts ;-)18:46
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Sweetsharkseb128: eek, that was meant for #libreoffice-qa. ignore me (this time! only!!1!)20:33
Sweetsharkseb128: actually people are using g+ to connect to the talkyoo conference call number and it seems to work well. I gotta try that next time, so people can hear me speaking over my terribly expansive condensator mic.20:35
jbichaseb128: for libnss-myhostname, do we need to have something in main depend on it or is recommends enough?20:58
seb128jbicha, did you get the ffe/mir approved for it?21:02
seb128jbicha, recommends is enough21:02
thumperkenvandine: how do I start friends? do I need to log in again, or restart21:10
* thumper waves at seb12821:14
thumperseb128: still up?21:14
seb128thumper, hey21:15
attentedesrt, larsu, there's a.. uh. band in our usual working spot21:37
tkamppeterseb128, printing news added.21:42
seb128tkamppeter, thanks21:44
=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk
=== jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp
=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha
=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk
=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha
=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk
=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha

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