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| ia0001 | hello is there a reason why ubuntu flash isnt working | 03:21 |
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| ia0001 | i mean why flash isnt working on server 12.04 | 03:21 |
| BigWhale | Good Morning. | 03:27 |
| robert_ancell | desrt, around? | 03:52 |
| pitti_ | Good morning | 06:30 |
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| didrocks | bonjour pitti! | 06:31 |
| pitti | hey didrocks | 06:32 |
| desrt | word. | 06:58 |
| desrt | hello from european time | 06:59 |
| didrocks | hey desrt! how is your jetlag? :) | 07:00 |
| desrt | i don't have any yet :) | 07:00 |
| desrt | i sure hope to stay that way... | 07:01 |
| didrocks | heh, let's hope you will follow that path in the following days ;) | 07:01 |
| desrt | attente: when you wake up, i just pushed the gtk patch to the 'gicon is a bad interface' bug | 07:01 |
| desrt | for your testing pleasure | 07:02 |
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| desrt | larsu: got wifi on the train? :) | 07:10 |
| desrt | does anyone know of a good system in C for handling python-style named format strings? | 07:16 |
| desrt | like how you can have '%(foo)s' % {'foo':'bar'} | 07:16 |
| * desrt goes to catch a train. ciao. | 07:23 | |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:48 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 07:50 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:50 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, pitti, didrocks | 07:50 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:51 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson! | 07:51 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson, didrocks, pitti, how are you? | 07:51 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you? | 07:51 |
| pitti | pretty tired, I slept badly; but fine otherwise; how about you? | 07:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, good to see you still around on the desktop channel ;-) | 07:51 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm good, thanks | 07:51 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i've not moved that far really ;) | 07:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, I'm good, slept mostly well (though I woke up a couple of time during the night, not sure why, but I managed to go back to sleep every time without issue) | 07:52 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how is it to work on a new laptop boosted with disk space and extra ram? ;-) | 07:52 |
| pitti | we had a pretty tough storm and a lot of rain during the night | 07:52 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, you got a new toy? | 07:52 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's pretty good. i can comfortably run 9 VM's on it and still be able to compile firefox | 07:53 |
| seb128 | lol | 07:53 |
| seb128 | crazy | 07:53 |
| pitti | wow, must be a helluva machine | 07:53 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, yeah, i got a new latitude, but i stuck 16GB of RAM in it and one of these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Series-512GB-Solid-State/dp/B009LI7CYE/ | 07:54 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, a friend of mine recently bought the 300-something GB variant of that, he's very satisfied | 07:54 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: tried running gnome disks' performance check on it? | 07:55 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, not yet. i might try that in a bit :) | 07:55 |
| pitti | my 3 year old SSD gives me 210 MB/s still (started with 250), I can only imagine how fast your's is now :) | 07:56 |
| pitti | but actually, I never felt it being a bottleneck | 07:57 |
| pitti | having a lot of RAM is quite a bit more important | 07:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, how do you test it? "disks" seem to not want the disk to be mounted to be able to test it | 07:58 |
| pitti | with /tmp/ being a tmpfs, putting sbuild overlays into /tmp etc., there is hardly anythign that actually touches the disk during large package builds | 07:58 |
| pitti | seb128: you can do a r/o test on a mounted partition | 07:58 |
| pitti | seb128: for r/w you need to boot a live system, yes | 07:58 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, yeah, i think your SSD performance is similar to my last one (intel 320 series) | 07:58 |
| seb128 | hum | 07:58 |
| seb128 | "Erreur pendant la recherche depuis 2400788480 (g-io-error-quark, 13)" | 07:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i haven't tried building firefox in tmpfs yet. i have enough RAM to do that now though :) | 07:59 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, I get a dialog box saying "busy" when requesting a write test, and a read test just works | 07:59 |
| seb128 | "Error seeking to offset 2400788480 (g-io-error-quark, 13)" | 07:59 |
| seb128 | on a read test | 08:00 |
| seb128 | no benchmark for me it seems | 08:00 |
| pitti | any smart failures? | 08:00 |
| seb128 | no | 08:00 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti, Average Read Rate: 526.6 MB/s :) | 08:02 |
| pitti | nice! | 08:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i couldn't do the write test either though | 08:02 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yeah, you need to boot a life CD for that | 08:03 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok | 08:03 |
| pitti | it's not destructive, but can't be run on a mounted drive to avoid endangering data integrity | 08:03 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that makes sense :) | 08:03 |
| didrocks | 502,0 Mo/s here ;) | 08:04 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, nice :) | 08:04 |
| pitti | what is a Mo? | 08:05 |
| didrocks | pitti: MB, but better, as in French ;) | 08:05 |
| pitti | *sob* | 08:05 |
| didrocks | ;) | 08:05 |
| didrocks | "octet" | 08:05 |
| * pitti holds up the "SI units tout le monde" cardboard sign | 08:05 | |
| didrocks | oct = 8 | 08:05 |
| pitti | well, but one doesn't translate SI units | 08:06 |
| didrocks | so we don't have the bits/bytes issue ;) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | so I'm the only one having the seek error? not fair! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: it seems so, you disable write tests, right? | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | the french have to be different ;) | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | :P | 08:06 |
| pitti | seb128: I never saw that error anywhere, and I have run disks on quite a lot of machines | 08:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yes, I've a busy disk message if I don't | 08:06 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: pitti: but don't worry, we do have as well the Mio/Mo war as well ;) | 08:06 |
| Laney | hey there | 08:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, disks works fine, that's just the benchmark doing that | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hey Laney | 08:07 |
| pitti | right, I meant the benchmark | 08:07 |
| pitti | seb128: it probably gets confused on seeking to the 100th Mo! | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey Laney! | 08:07 |
| pitti | good morning Laney | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey chrisccoulson didrocks pitti! | 08:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: you will notice that pitti adapted to "Mo" already \o/ | 08:07 |
| Laney | happy wednesday | 08:07 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey | 08:07 |
| * pitti slaps didrocks | 08:08 | |
| Laney | and seb128 too :-) | 08:08 |
| * didrocks runs away crying | 08:08 | |
| seb128 | pitti, at least I'm not alone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1081019 | 08:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1081019 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Benchmark for Harddisk fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, my bet is that it hates 32bit users and you are all 64bits fanboys :p | 08:10 |
| pitti | seb128: peut-être nous pouvons le regarder au sprint? | 08:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, oui, bien sûr | 08:10 |
| pitti | seb128: c'est facile, test avec un live CD? | 08:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, je vais le faire et je te dirais | 08:11 |
| pitti | seb128: I run 32 bit on the netbook, and it works fine there | 08:11 |
| seb128 | how big is the disk? | 08:11 |
| didrocks | No opinion on semantic versionning? I would like to impose it for our PS projects. | 08:11 |
| pitti | 16 GB | 08:11 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ that's the mini 10 | 08:11 |
| seb128 | k, anyway, I will try with a liveCD | 08:11 |
| seb128 | and otherwise we can have a look at the sprint | 08:11 |
| Laney | my, what a pretty wallpaper I have | 08:16 |
| Laney | would be more useful with a desktop environment on top of it though | 08:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, you don't enjoy clean and simple then? | 08:17 |
| didrocks | it's the "zen" theme :) | 08:17 |
| Laney | taking "minimal" to the (almost) extreme | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, joke aside, is that your session ... did it just break after today's update? | 08:17 |
| Laney | I still have a context menu to change the wallpaper or create folders :P | 08:17 |
| Laney | I didn't update yet today, so yesterday's | 08:17 |
| didrocks | so just no Unity | 08:17 |
| seb128 | oh, "only" unity having issue then | 08:17 |
| Laney | indeed | 08:17 |
| seb128 | what is in your .xsession-errors? | 08:18 |
| Laney | just something from ib-config | 08:18 |
| Laney | m | 08:18 |
| seb128 | ah, I always forget | 08:18 |
| Laney | but I am using user sessions | 08:18 |
| seb128 | .cache/upstart/gnome-session.log | 08:18 |
| Laney | hmm | 08:18 |
| Laney | let me poke, might be local borkage | 08:19 |
| seb128 | we need to teach apport about upstart logs btw | 08:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 08:19 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will open a bug about that (if there isn't already one) | 08:19 |
| pitti | seb128: you mean attaching /var/log/upstart/<service>.log for system reports? | 08:20 |
| pitti | they aren't readable for adm (I think that's a bug) | 08:20 |
| Laney | ~/.cache/upstart/foo.log for user jobs | 08:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, with upstart user sessions (that will be the default for Ubuntu soon), .xsession-errors is empty | 08:20 |
| pitti | hm, I don't even have a ~/.cache/upstart | 08:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, gnome-session is started by upstart and its output is in .cache/upstart/<job>.log | 08:20 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you enable user sessions? | 08:21 |
| pitti | seb128: not deliberately; I just keep dist-upgrading | 08:21 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, edit /etc/upstart-xsessions if you want to enable it | 08:21 |
| seb128 | just uncomment the ubuntu line | 08:21 |
| pitti | ah, so we don't do that by default yet | 08:21 |
| seb128 | no, it was a bit late | 08:22 |
| seb128 | one of the "first thing in "s"" | 08:22 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's ready, the FFe didn't got acked because it came a bit late | 08:22 |
| seb128 | same story that logind | 08:22 |
| pitti | I guess we'll enable a lot of that at the sprint | 08:23 |
| seb128 | yep | 08:23 |
| pitti | squishy will be fun in the first few weeks | 08:23 |
| Laney | the main issue at the time was Xsession.d scripts needing to be ported to jobs | 08:23 |
| Laney | think the most important ones are done now | 08:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1167196 | 08:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1167196 in apport (Ubuntu) "should look for errors in upstart log once user sessions are enabled" [Undecided,New] | 08:25 |
| pitti | seb128: thanks, adjusted; it's on https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+upcomingwork now :) | 08:26 |
| * pitti loves +upcomingwork | 08:26 | |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:27 |
| Laney | compiz (core) - Error: Plugin 'opengl' not loaded. | 08:28 |
| Laney | would that break it? | 08:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, most likely yes | 08:28 |
| seb128 | did you break permissions on your video card again? | 08:29 |
| pitti | I did that a couple of times when working on logind ACLs, and unity still started up (in llvmpipe mode) | 08:29 |
| Laney | I get all 'yes' when running unity_support_test -p | 08:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, is compiz working for other users? | 08:32 |
| Laney | good point, i'll try the guest user | 08:34 |
| Laney | yes :( | 08:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you have a local opengl plugin in .compiz-1 or something? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, try to strace -f compiz 2>&1 | grep opengl | 08:35 |
| seb128 | see where it's loading it from | 08:35 |
| Laney | .cache/compizconfig-1/opengl.pb | 08:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, what is in this file? | 08:42 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:42 |
| seb128 | ignore that, I've it there as well | 08:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, but it should be trying to load an opengl.so | 08:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, gsettings get org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins | 08:43 |
| seb128 | ? | 08:43 |
| Laney | ['core', 'ccp', 'composite', 'decor', 'compiztoolbox', 'imgpng', 'gnomecompat', 'place', 'mousepoll', 'grid', 'snap', 'move', 'resize', 'regex', 'session', 'vpswitch', 'workarounds'] | 08:44 |
| Laney | no opengl? | 08:44 |
| * Laney tries moving the .cache directory | 08:47 | |
| seb128 | Laney, reset the gsettings key I would say | 08:48 |
| seb128 | but then go figure why it went missing | 08:48 |
| Laney | right, that fixed it ... | 08:50 |
| Laney | ['core', 'composite', 'opengl', 'compiztoolbox', 'decor', 'vpswitch', 'snap', 'mousepoll', 'resize', 'place', 'move', 'wall', 'grid', 'regex', 'imgpng', 'session', 'gnomecompat', 'animation', 'fade', 'unitymtgrabhandles', 'workarounds', 'scale', 'expo', 'ezoom', 'unityshell'] | 08:50 |
| Laney | does it remove plugins from that list when they fail to load once? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | it shouldn't, but I guess it does... | 08:50 |
| seb128 | or there are case where that seems to happen at least | 08:50 |
| seb128 | that's the only explanation I've for it | 08:51 |
| Laney | because nvidia-310 is borked with new kernels (tseliot is on it) and so I got nouveau for one boot before I went back to an old kernel | 08:51 |
| tseliot | Laney: -310, -310-updates, -304 and -304-updates should be fixed now in raring-proposed | 08:52 |
| Laney | tseliot: I don't see them - probably in the queue | 08:53 |
| Laney | ah yes, there they are | 08:53 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=1 | 08:53 |
| Laney | did you just get rid of the check or did you fix it up? | 08:53 |
| tseliot | Laney: well, I simply removed the check to see if SUBLEVEL is less than 5 | 08:54 |
| Laney | fair enough | 08:54 |
| seb128 | Laney, btw, I registered https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-s-use-upstart-user-sessions while you were on holidays (just for info) | 10:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, if you have ideas where we can use upstart session jobs, please dump them in there | 10:00 |
| Laney | ah great, thank you | 10:01 |
| darkxst | seb128, do you know where things are at, with the region panel in g-c-c? is ubuntu still using language-selector | 10:35 |
| seb128 | yes, it is | 10:35 |
| seb128 | the new GNOME stuff is a semi fiasco | 10:35 |
| seb128 | as it ibus 1.5 | 10:35 |
| seb128 | it->is | 10:35 |
| seb128 | that's starting getting slightly better in GNOME 3.8 but still broken | 10:36 |
| darkxst | yeh, I see | 10:38 |
| darkxst | the 3.8 regions tab is basically non-functional currently | 10:39 |
| darkxst | (as on staging) | 10:39 |
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| seb128 | Laney, that's not enough for the merger :p | 12:45 |
| Laney | BAH | 12:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's easy, the automatic entries come from bugs referenced | 12:46 |
| seb128 | if you don't have a one you should manually edit the changelog | 12:46 |
| Laney | I'm sure I asked if the MP commit message works | 12:47 |
| didrocks | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#My_name_deserves_to_be_in_the_changelog.21 | 12:47 |
| ritz | seb128++ thanks | 12:47 |
| didrocks | that what I pointed to you yesterday ^ | 12:47 |
| didrocks | on #ubuntu-release | 12:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, the merge checks that there is a MP commit message and refuse the merge if there is none | 12:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, but it doesn't use the message for the changelog | 12:47 |
| seb128 | Laney, also please submit against https://code.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk.13.04 for raring | 12:48 |
| Laney | ack and ack | 12:48 |
| didrocks | (see Vcs-Bzr btw :p) | 12:48 |
| seb128 | thanks ;-) | 12:48 |
| Laney | I did bzr lp-propose | 12:48 |
| seb128 | well, you brancked from lp:libappindicator | 12:48 |
| didrocks | Laney: if you branched from trunk, it's targetting trunk for sure ;) | 12:48 |
| Laney | correct | 12:48 |
| seb128 | or lp:libappindicator/13.04 | 12:48 |
| seb128 | that's why ;-) | 12:48 |
| Laney | does it get merged into trunk too? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | well, the one you submitted is for trunk | 12:49 |
| didrocks | Laney: no, upstream splitted the branch | 12:49 |
| seb128 | you need to proposed a second merge against 13.04 | 12:49 |
| didrocks | for no reason TBH seeing they didn't use them | 12:49 |
| seb128 | you can do it from the same branch though, they didn't diverge yet | 12:49 |
| Laney | oh, do another one not get rid of this one | 12:49 |
| didrocks | (even if the system supports splitting them one after another, on demand) | 12:49 |
| Laney | final question - does it matter what upstream version I choose when editing the changelog? | 12:50 |
| Laney | I guess the release bot just overwrites it | 12:50 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, see the FAQ ;) | 12:51 |
| didrocks | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I_have_a_big_change_that_needs_to_be_mention_in_debian.2BAC8-changelog.2C_but_not_bug_for_it_.28or_I_didn.27t_link_to_a_bug_before_merging | 12:51 |
| * didrocks wonders why he's explaining everything where he links to the page and people don't search through it :/ | 12:51 | |
| Laney | hey, I did read it | 12:51 |
| Laney | but the example there doesn't have daily version numbers | 12:52 |
| Laney | it seems to me like those are automatic, but that one looks like they're manually maintained | 12:52 |
| didrocks | You need then mention it manually in debian/changelog: If there is already an UNRELEASED content (top line in debian/changelog), add your content with: | 12:52 |
| didrocks | $ dch -a | 12:52 |
| didrocks | -> edit the change and save. | 12:52 |
| didrocks | If it's something like "raring" or something else: | 12:52 |
| didrocks | $ dch -i | 12:52 |
| didrocks | -> edit the change and save. | 12:52 |
| didrocks | I don't mention the version, so you can just follow it and go ahead ;) | 12:52 |
| Laney | I was reading the next question | 12:52 |
| didrocks | Laney: the next one is when you need to do it, like you want to "release unity 7" | 12:53 |
| Laney | mmm | 12:53 |
| didrocks | Laney: feel free to reedit/rearrange if it's not clear | 12:54 |
| Laney | I suppose that it's not clear to me what "bumping the upstream version" means | 12:55 |
| Laney | like I thought I might have to set the upstream part myself because I'm making upstream changes | 12:55 |
| didrocks | Laney: upstream have unity 6.8 | 12:55 |
| didrocks | Laney: they want to mark the new upstream version as 7.0 | 12:55 |
| didrocks | so it's hitting them they need to bump in debian/changelog as well | 12:56 |
| didrocks | (each title is an entry/separate question in the FAQ) | 12:56 |
| Laney | let me edit it and you can see if I get it right | 12:56 |
| didrocks | sure ;) | 12:56 |
| Laney | right, there we go | 13:00 |
| Laney | ARGH | 13:00 |
| Laney | Internal Server Error | 13:00 |
| Laney | ah, got it | 13:00 |
| Laney | didrocks: check that out? | 13:03 |
| Laney | sorry for being dense btw :/ | 13:03 |
| didrocks | Laney: I would change "if you're moving from Unity 7.0 to 7.1." to the versions used in the following example | 13:05 |
| didrocks | otherwise, looking good :) | 13:05 |
| didrocks | oh, btw, I wrote something a while back especially for package maintainers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I.27m_making_a_change.2C_should_I_provide_anything_in_debian.2BAC8-changelog.3F | 13:05 |
| Laney | yeah I put some text there too | 13:06 |
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| didrocks | Laney: btw, on this dch -i/dch -a | 13:07 |
| didrocks | Laney: do you know if debchange has an easier way? | 13:07 |
| Laney | I just use 'dch' all the time | 13:07 |
| Laney | I have DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog in ~/.devscripts which I know does something in this area but I can't remember exactly what | 13:08 |
| didrocks | Laney: good point! it's years I didn't use it! | 13:08 |
| didrocks | yeah, but DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog is the default now | 13:08 |
| didrocks | so, we should be fine without it | 13:08 |
| didrocks | (I have it too) | 13:08 |
| Laney | aha, then I think you can just 'dch' | 13:08 |
| Laney | it adds a new entry if you're UNRELEASED, otherwise creates a whole new stanza | 13:08 |
| didrocks | Laney: tell me if/once you changed the versionning and I'll simplify the rest with only "dch" | 13:09 |
| didrocks | (confirming DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC is set to changelog now by default) | 13:09 |
| Laney | yeah, I just checked and it is | 13:10 |
| didrocks | Laney: all dch -i/-a killed :) | 13:29 |
| Laney | :) | 13:41 |
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| didrocks | mhall119: hey, how are you? | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: I am | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | oh, I thought you asked if I was around | 14:06 |
| didrocks | ;) | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | my answer makes much more sense to the question you didn't ask | 14:06 |
| didrocks | mhall119: ahah, indeed! | 14:06 |
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| didrocks | mhall119: I wanted to know when the developer site will get updated to the latest sdk? | 14:07 |
| didrocks | mhall119: as last time I checked, the examples in the doc weren't working with the sdk we ship | 14:07 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: they just recently landed dpm's patch to add the proper theming, so as soon as that's in a package that his script can extract the new docs from | 14:07 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: I'm also working on updating the tutorial for the new version of the SDK | 14:08 |
| didrocks | mhall119: a package, like the sdk package? | 14:08 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: yeah, the docs package for the ubuntu-ui-toolkit I think | 14:08 |
| didrocks | mhall119: its already in raring for a while :) | 14:08 |
| mhall119 | 0.40.1? | 14:08 |
| mhall119 | or 0.1.40 I should say | 14:08 |
| didrocks | we do have 0.1.38 | 14:09 |
| didrocks | which doesn't work with the current tutorial | 14:09 |
| didrocks | (bug #1158246) | 14:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Tutorial code needs to be updated to use the latest UITK version" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158246 | 14:09 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, if a commit doesn't reference a bug # but the merge proposal does, will it get put in the changelog automatically? | 14:10 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: yep, if you link it to the MP before it was merged :) | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | great | 14:10 |
| didrocks | (linking the branch of course) | 14:11 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: 1158246 is in progress now | 14:11 |
| didrocks | mhall119: ok, any ETA? it's broken for 3/4 weeks and I noticed a lot of people start to complain about it | 14:11 |
| didrocks | (including management :p) | 14:11 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: no ETA other than "as soon as I can get it done" | 14:12 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner_, Mirv: FYI as you probably wanted a status on that ^ | 14:12 |
| mhall119 | I didn't write the original, so it's slow going | 14:12 |
| didrocks | yeah, would have been nice to get a raw approximation, but here we go ;) | 14:13 |
| didrocks | thanks mhall119 | 14:13 |
| mhall119 | didrocks: np | 14:13 |
| debfx | hi, why does libappindicator recommend indicator-application? | 14:42 |
| debfx | are other implementations of the statusnotifier protocol not sufficient? | 14:42 |
| seb128 | debfx, hey, because if you don't have an indicator the ui is nowhere to be seen which "breaks" the user experience | 14:42 |
| seb128 | debfx, they should, it's only a recommends | 14:43 |
| debfx | seb128: right, but shouldn't it recommend indicator-renderer as an alternative? | 14:49 |
| seb128 | debfx, indicator-application is a service, not the renderer | 14:49 |
| seb128 | debfx, the renderer are unity, indicator-applet, and whatever KDE is using to draw the ui | 14:50 |
| seb128 | debfx, having you a "renderer" doesn't give you the container for the appindicator icons | 14:50 |
| debfx | so indicator-application is between the application and the renderer? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | debfx, yes | 15:09 |
| kenvandine | desrt, do you know if anyone has started porting dconf-qt to qt5? | 15:22 |
| dobey | didrocks: btw, you know the current unity gir package has the wrong verssion number in the package name? it's gir1.2-unity-5.0 but has Unity-6.0.typelib and UnityExtras-6.0.typelib | 15:34 |
| didrocks | mhr3: IIRC, we discussed about it in quantal ^ | 15:34 |
| didrocks | I don't remember the outcome :) | 15:35 |
| mhr3 | didrocks, i guess it was again about scopes - the unity-5.0 ones wouldn't work anyway, and unless you specify version number the latest version is imported eitherway | 15:36 |
| didrocks | mhr3: yeah, that was my feeling. I think we'll fix it in s for the 100 scopes (the override seems useless to me, so we can maybe have them parallely installable) | 15:37 |
| mhr3 | bottomline, yes, it should be 6.0, but having 5.0 there wouldn't help anyone | 15:37 |
| didrocks | let's wait for the scope ABI break then :) | 15:37 |
| mhr3 | not sure if there'll be abi breaks | 15:38 |
| mhr3 | probably mostly api breaks :P | 15:39 |
| mitya57 | kenvandine: there is ~fboucault/dconf-qt/qt5, but last updated on 2012-10-05... | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | oh cool | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | thx mitya57 | 15:50 |
| seb128 | everyone, can you update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview with the cool things you landed in raring? | 16:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ can you do unity? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ^ indicators? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ friends? | 16:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, ^ update-manager? | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | was just thinking about that :) | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | sure | 16:11 |
| didrocks | will do | 16:11 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, ^ libreoffice? if you have a nice description of what's new in 4 ... btw got the current version sponsored by bdrung? | 16:13 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, ^ summary of the printing work would be useful as well | 16:13 |
| cyphermox | seb128: ok! | 16:36 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | mterry: kenvandine: goes under Ubuntu directly? should we agree on a semblance of a structure/format? ;) | 16:37 |
| cyphermox | like, points I guess? | 16:38 |
| mterry | cyphermox, looks like upstart user sessions have a template already -- bold header, free form paragraphs below | 16:38 |
| mterry | cyphermox, indicators are under ubuntu I'd think yeah | 16:39 |
| cyphermox | ok, so let's use that | 16:49 |
| mterry | cyphermox, still feeling like reviewing some branches? :) | 17:02 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 17:07 |
| cyphermox | shoot, I can review things and then actually finally go for lunch ;) | 17:07 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: adding libreoffice to the wiki | 17:19 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, thanks | 17:19 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: I havent seen bdrung sponsor the new version yet. no blockers known to me though. | 17:19 |
| bdrung | seb128, Sweetshark: i did the upload yesterday (with the one typo patch). it's in the queue: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=1 | 17:21 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 17:23 | |
| seb128 | bdrung, great, thanks | 17:23 |
| seb128 | didrocks, 'night | 17:23 |
| jbicha | seb128: gnome's printer panel won't add a new printer without system-config-printer-gnome being installed? is it ok to have g-c-c depend on that? | 17:34 |
| jbicha | it's bug 1163674 | 17:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1163674 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Adding a printer crashes Gnome Control Center (System Settings)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163674 | 17:34 |
| seb128 | jbicha, recommends I would say | 17:36 |
| jbicha | ok, thanks | 17:51 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: done (I hope) | 17:56 |
| Sweetshark | https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talkyoo | 18:17 |
| Sweetshark | https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/April_10 | 18:34 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, is there anything you wanted to point in those pages? out of "french \o/" and "skype sucks"? ;-) | 18:45 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, you guys should just give up and use google hangouts ;-) | 18:46 |
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| Sweetshark | seb128: eek, that was meant for #libreoffice-qa. ignore me (this time! only!!1!) | 20:33 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: actually people are using g+ to connect to the talkyoo conference call number and it seems to work well. I gotta try that next time, so people can hear me speaking over my terribly expansive condensator mic. | 20:35 |
| seb128 | hehe | 20:38 |
| jbicha | seb128: for libnss-myhostname, do we need to have something in main depend on it or is recommends enough? | 20:58 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you get the ffe/mir approved for it? | 21:02 |
| seb128 | jbicha, recommends is enough | 21:02 |
| jbicha | yes | 21:04 |
| thumper | kenvandine: how do I start friends? do I need to log in again, or restart | 21:10 |
| thumper | ? | 21:10 |
| * thumper waves at seb128 | 21:14 | |
| thumper | seb128: still up? | 21:14 |
| seb128 | thumper, hey | 21:15 |
| attente | desrt, larsu, there's a.. uh. band in our usual working spot | 21:37 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, printing news added. | 21:42 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks | 21:44 |
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