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pitti_Good morning06:30
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dholbachgood morning07:10
shadeslayerstgraber: is there an automated tool that can check if packages from PPA's are installable?07:23
jibelshadeslayer, did you look at piuparts? although I don't know how well it would support PPAs.07:33
jibelgood morning everyone :)07:34
* shadeslayer looks07:40
shadeslayerjibel: hmm, piuparts expects a deb to be passed to it07:48
shadeslayerI basically want something like : a clean miniman ubuntu install -> add PPA -> install package07:49
jibelshadeslayer, you can pass a package name with option --apt, what I don't know is how to add a PPA. I must be possible to inject a sources.list with the PPA and the associated key into the chroot07:52
jibels/I must/It must07:52
shadeslayeryeah I think I know how to do that07:53
shadeslayeryou can specify multiple mirrors07:53
shadeslayerso pass the first -m argument as the official mirror07:53
shadeslayerthe second one as the PPA07:53
shadeslayerjibel: thanks, piuparts works08:15
shadeslayeror .. well .. kind of08:16
shadeslayer5m52.5s ERROR: FAIL: Package purging left files on system:08:16
shadeslayerthere's --warn-on-leftovers-after-purge though08:17
shadeslayerwill just use that08:17
jibelpitti, I pushed the notifications for autopkgtest to production. For the moment, notifications are still sent to ubuntu-testing-notifications@lists.ubuntu.com and the person who should be normally notified is in the body of the message.10:02
jibelit looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694931/10:02
pittijibel: oh, nice!!10:03
jibelpitti, the recipient is the last uploader of the package or the person who created the publication for sync requests.10:03
pittijibel: are these sent on state changes only, or for every failure?10:03
jibelpitti, on state change, but that's what I want to verify. I had to trick the email publisher because "1rst-failure only" notifications are not supported on our version of this plugin.10:05
pittivery nice10:06
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smartboyhwballoons, go and write a testimonial for Noskcaj's Ubuntu membership in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj13:40
smartboyhwThat extends to everybody13:40
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smartboyhwphillw, you aren't going to be happy, but Lubuntu isn't included in http://www.zdnet.com/five-operating-system-alternatives-to-windows-8-and-xp-7000013765/?s_cid=e53913:59
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smartboyhwSergioMeneses, hey hey got any time to write a testimonial for Noskcaj?14:44
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, for what?14:45
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, membership.14:46
SergioMenesesubuntu membership?14:46
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, yep:)14:46
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I'm working now but I'll write it to night14:46
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, :)14:47
SergioMenesesNoskcaj is only 14 years old!!!14:47
* SergioMeneses feels so old14:47
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, I am 14:P14:48
* smartboyhw wonders why two 14-year-olds can join Ubuntu QA at around the same time....14:49
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I'm 2414:49
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, :)14:49
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, phillw is older than you:P14:50
* smartboyhw wonders balloons age14:50
* smartboyhw points SergioMeneses at JoseeAntonioR who is also 14 (or 15?)14:50
JoseeAntonioRI'm 1614:50
JoseeAntonioRand didn't exactly join QA14:50
C1sM0Hello, does anyone know how to find out if my laptop's hardware information was submitted to the Ubuntu Friendly Website?14:51
smartboyhwJoseeAntonioR, I know. I'm trying to prove that SergioMeneses is quite old:P14:53
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, um actually I heard a 14-year-old Italian LoCo guy running for membership next week (not Noskcaj, he will run on early May for the 2200 UTC one)14:54
SergioMenesesC1sM0, hi! look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/Process14:54
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, when I was 14 ubuntu didn't exist14:55
C1sM0Thanks SergioMeneses14:55
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, true:P14:55
balloonssmartboyhw, :-) Let's say I'm twice your age -- how's that?14:59
smartboyhwballoons, :P14:59
SergioMenesesballoons, is 24 ?15:01
SergioMeneseslol - 2815:01
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, duh it's 28.15:01
* smartboyhw needs to teach elementary maths:)15:01
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, jajaja15:02
smartboyhwballoons, you written one yet?15:02
C1sM0SergioMeneses, can I ask one more question? On the TestDrive under the Xubuntu Tab I have 2 ISO listed, is that a bug?15:02
smartboyhwC1sM0, that's an already filed bug.15:03
smartboyhwballoons was supposed to fix that:P15:03
SergioMenesesC1sM0, you have 2 isos for the same system, right?15:03
SergioMenesesC1sM0, yes, but we are working on it, don't worry ;)15:04
C1sM0Ok, Thanks15:04
balloonssmartboyhw, written one what?15:13
balloonssmartboyhw, lol.. yes i remember you wanted me to fix testdrive :-)15:13
smartboyhwballoons, testimonial for Ubuntu membership for Noskcaj:)15:13
smartboyhwballoons, yep.15:13
balloonsohh.. of course!15:13
smartboyhwballoons, do your Canonical Community Team first:P15:14
balloonsyes, it's on the list.. I was excitied to see him going for membership15:14
smartboyhwballoons, +115:14
smartboyhwSadly he is running for the 2200 UTC one, if not I would do some live-time support.15:15
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, balloons are you working on testdrive now?15:18
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, not me.15:18
smartboyhwI said that if balloons doesn't work on it I won't:P15:19
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, jejeje15:19
balloonslol.. smartboyhw at the moment, no I'm not working on it :-)15:21
smartboyhwballoons, boo:P15:21
balloonsohh.. SergioMeneses since your here :-) I was going merges for ubuntu manual tests.. how's brasero?15:33
SergioMenesesballoons, is done!15:34
SergioMenesesI'm going to merge it15:34
balloonsprobably an unknown word to all of you ...15:34
smartboyhwballoons, I heard it many times before in different channels.15:35
balloonsmeans 'yay!'15:35
smartboyhwballoons, I think you should get your nick "guitara" in Forums changed to "balloons"15:35
balloonsis that possible?15:36
smartboyhwballoons, ask elfy:P15:37
SergioMenesesballoons, done: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/brasero-tests2/+merge/15815615:40
SergioMenesesbug 115748115:40
ubot5bug 1157481 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: brasero" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115748115:40
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, ran the script?15:41
smartboyhwBah no diff yet:(15:41
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, javier script?15:41
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, yep.15:42
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, no, I only had to do some changes15:42
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, OK....15:42
balloonsSergioMeneses, smartboyhw .. I always spell check and check formatting using the script.. Part of doing the review :-)15:43
smartboyhwballoons, I have no diff:P15:43
smartboyhwI like LP diffs to do the thing for me.15:44
balloonsahh.. more so than bzr diff?15:44
smartboyhwballoons, yep.15:44
balloonsyou can use an external tool with bzr diff if you want to15:44
smartboyhwbzr diff is way too long that exceeds the terminal (especially when I am packaging)15:44
balloonsI like a tool called 'meld'. But I'm with you.. lp diff's are quite nice.15:44
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, jajaja15:44
smartboyhwballoons, they are COLOURFUL:P15:44
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, what's jajaja?!15:45
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, you can work with bazzar explorer15:45
* smartboyhw feels quite annoyed being jajaja-ed by SergioMeneses 15:45
* balloons enjoys culture!15:48
balloonsSergioMeneses, awesome, ok so smartboyhw did you want to review?15:48
SergioMeneses \o/15:49
smartboyhwballoons, no. I am just doing the check that's all.15:49
smartboyhwI need to sleep:(15:49
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, :O15:49
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, already something wrong15:49
smartboyhw<dd>No sound is heard</dd>15:49
smartboyhwOops sorry my fault:P15:49
* smartboyhw has bloody eyes today15:49
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, take a rest ;)15:49
* smartboyhw gives up the manual review. (Should be alright though)15:51
balloonsand he's out :-)15:53
balloonsok SergioMeneses I'll keep on the review then :)15:53
SergioMenesesballoons, ok15:54
balloonsSergioMeneses, the 'supr' button?15:55
balloonsyou mean the minus sign?15:55
balloonsthe remove all looks like a broom15:56
balloonsthe add looks like a plus sign15:56
balloonsohh.. maybe you meant subtract?15:56
SergioMenesesballoons, yes, the supr button, you can remove files with it15:57
balloons'supr' doesn't make sense to me15:57
SergioMenesesballoons, we can change it, delete key?15:58
balloonsI would call the icon a minus sign, or perhaps subtract. Pressing the delete key also invokes the shortcut to remove it15:59
balloonsbut I'm confused what got lost in translation with 'supr'.. what does it mean?15:59
balloonssmartboyhw, we're forum friends now :-)16:00
balloonsgood night!16:00
smartboyhwballoons: :) will be idling here though.16:00
balloonsOHH.. you mean the super button? like the windows button?16:01
SergioMenesesballoons, it is my bad,  "supr" key is the "delete" key in English16:01
balloonsSergioMeneses, ahh.. that's it16:01
balloonsenter = intro16:01
SergioMenesesyes, the same16:02
balloonsretroceso = backspace16:02
balloonssupr = delete16:02
smartboyhwSergioMeneses fix fix...:P16:02
SergioMenesesballoons, correct16:02
balloonsyes to an english user supr is confusing.. potentially meaning the super button, windows button, meta key16:02
balloonsor nothing at all :-)16:02
balloonshehe.. awesome16:02
SergioMenesesbut we can fix it only changing "supr" - "delete" ?16:02
balloonsisn't being multilingual fun?16:02
balloonsSergioMeneses, yes.. change it to delete16:02
balloonsit makes sense then :-016:03
SergioMenesesballoons, sometimes16:03
balloonsok let me finish in case anything else is found16:03
SergioMenesesballoons, ok16:03
smartboyhwballoons: Mwahaha get yourself an Ubuntu member custom avatar in Ubuntu Forums.16:04
* smartboyhw has a Kubuntu member one.16:04
balloonsCan you change "<dd>The selected file is spliting in N tracks, each one with a 10min duration</dd>" to "<dd>The selected file is split into N tracks, each one with a 10min duration</dd>"16:05
balloonsagain: "<dd>The selected file is splited in 3 tracks</dd>" to "<dd>The selected file is split into 3 tracks</dd>"16:05
balloons"<dd>The main "New Audio Disc Project" window is displayed with the file splited in 3 chuncks</dd>" to "<dd>The main "New Audio Disc Project" window is displayed with the file split into 3 chunks</dd>"16:06
SergioMenesesballoons, did you check Javier's revisions about brasero testcase?16:06
smartboyhwballoons you did see what I say right?16:07
balloonsSergioMeneses, not really, why?16:07
SergioMenesesalways is good to have more points of view16:07
balloonsSergioMeneses, there's a few other minor misspellings.. I usually just fix them16:07
balloonsI don't see anything else confusing tho :-)16:07
SergioMenesesballoons, perfect16:07
SergioMenesesso, let me work on this changes16:08
balloonsperfect.. then I'll do the spell check and commit it :-)16:08
balloonssmartboyhw, custom avatar's16:09
balloonsohh boy16:09
balloonsI like plain16:09
smartboyhwballoons: Boo:P16:10
SergioMenesesballoons, the new changes are here! https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/brasero-testcase/+merge/15816816:42
balloonsSergioMeneses, ohh a new proposal? I believe you can just commit to the branch you proposed to update..16:43
balloonsanyways, ok, I'll grab this16:43
SergioMenesesballoons, I've updated the last one16:43
SergioMenesesok, lunchtime16:53
balloonsanyone have a non-raring install handy who can confirm something for me?18:55
Letozaf_balloons, me18:55
balloonshey Letozaf_ ;-)18:55
balloonsohh.. now nautilus crashes fun18:56
Letozaf_balloons, hey!18:56
balloonsso, it seems if you have a file operations window open, you can't open a new nautilus window18:56
balloonsor tab18:56
Letozaf_balloons, oh! let me try I have 12.1018:57
balloonsyea.. so try copying a big file or overwriting one (so the dialog pops up) and then try and open a new window or tab18:57
Letozaf_balloons, ok18:57
Letozaf_balloons, just a second18:57
Letozaf_balloons, no crash for me, I copied an ISO to my desktop from Downloads directory, while I was copying I opened another nautilus window and also a another tab, but everything went fine18:59
balloonsnautilus crashed after I did it as well19:00
balloonsso maybe something raring specific19:00
Letozaf_balloons, let me try it in Raring on my notebook19:00
balloonsI'll try and recreate it in a second ;-)19:00
balloonsI need to copy some files.. lol19:00
Letozaf_balloons, :D19:00
Letozaf_balloons, no crashes on Raring either for me19:04
balloonsvery interesting...19:04
Letozaf_balloons, weired !19:04
balloonswell.. there might be more to it19:04
balloonsI was doing an sshfs transfer specifically. also I have some ppa stuff19:05
Letozaf_balloons, no logs ?19:05
Letozaf_balloons, to find what it could be ?19:06
Letozaf_balloons, let me se if I can do a sshfs, and then copy and open a window/tab19:07
balloonsLetozaf_, no.. I'm trying again right now tho19:08
Letozaf_balloons, ok19:08
balloonsworks this time.. well.. what the heck19:09
balloonsLetozaf_, I did get a crash, so it must have been something else19:09
balloonsbut it wouldn't let me report because of the third party stuff I have19:09
Letozaf_balloons, have you got the crash in /var/crash19:10
balloonsit's big 25 mb ;-)19:10
Letozaf_balloons, :(19:10
Letozaf_balloons, maybe you are lucky and find something just peaking at it19:11
balloonsLetozaf_, does your nautilus get really slow tho during the transer?19:13
balloonsit's really glitchy for me, though it's working.. I mean, it's locking up and asking me if I want to force quit it stays locked for so long19:13
balloonsohh and look.. hehe19:13
balloonsso that took about a minute for the window to respond19:14
Letozaf_balloons, no but probably I was copying only one ISO and it ended too quickly19:14
Letozaf_balloons, let me try to copy something bigger or more ISO's19:14
balloonsyea.. or limit your upload speed to like nothing so it takes forever :-)19:14
balloonsbut after a minute of copying nautilus is very noticeably slow for me19:15
balloonsbut only opening a new window or tab. the existing windows and tabs operate fine19:15
balloonsthere is something in there that is preventing things from loading until it timesout or something19:16
balloonsmaybe I can just blame fuse19:16
balloonsI have the sshfs happening via nautilus19:16
balloonsnot sure that was clear19:16
balloonsit's mounted and being copied via nautilus19:16
Letozaf_balloons, I did not have sshfs maybe that is the cause19:17
Letozaf_balloons, I could try to do the same19:17
balloonsI think it is19:17
balloonsnow that it's ended everything is back to normal19:18
Letozaf_balloons, it does not happen to me on Raring :( I opened a ssh connection on my PC from my notebook copied a big folder to another nautilus window on my notebook and meanwhile opened other nautilus windows and tabs, but everything seems fine19:25
balloonsvia sshfs right?19:25
Letozaf_balloons, did you try to reboot maybe it's something that will go away after reboot19:26
Letozaf_balloons, yes via sshfs19:26
Letozaf_balloons, I opened nautilus and selected connect to server19:26
Letozaf_balloons, ssh to my PC and copied from my PC to my notebook19:27
Letozaf_balloons, anyway in the past something similar happened to me but random19:27
Letozaf_balloons, I mean nautilus going like grey while doing things like copying files19:28
balloonsright.. there's something funny going on19:28
balloonsI have connections to other servers listed too19:28
balloonsit'll take more debugging, but thank you for your help19:28
balloonsit seems it's something more specific to me19:29
balloonsso that's good19:29
Letozaf_balloons, ok19:29
balloonsSergioMenesesAFK, you about?19:59
phillwballoons: do we have contact people for ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu-kylin?20:15
balloonsphillw, sure20:15
* balloons notes he's going to ask for names20:15
phillwballoons: yeah, we did make a start on a page with us on for the flavours, not too sure what happened to it...20:17
phillwsoz balloons, WiFi was having a bad moment20:50
balloonsno worries20:58
phillwballoons: hopefully I'm back as stable... (reboot of computer and router). The question was leading to an email request for teams to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams I'm not sure if all teams are aware of this area. Is it worth forwarding to the 'general' ubuntu-quality email list? (-gnome and -kylin) may not have anyone subscribed to the community-announce list21:20
balloonsyea ;-)21:20
phillwI'll forward it, i didn't want to cause unwanted emails going out :)21:21
balloonsphillw, umm yea you should let those new teams know about it21:21
phillwballoons: I hope that you have got at least one person from each on the ubuntu-quality mailing list? :)21:22
balloonsI can't force them to signup, haha :-)21:22
balloonsbut I can simply add them21:22
* balloons notes he hasn't done that21:23
phillwLet me know when it is done, and I'll forward it to the mailing list.21:23
phillwbtw, good evening Noskcaj :)21:24
Noskcajmorning phillw21:25
phillwI'll have to adopt silverlions' welcome .... "Good $local_time_zone " :P21:28
phillwor "Good $local_time" which I think he uses :)21:30
Noskcajphillw, lol21:36
phillwballoons: I've just re-read that comment, are you adding them to the QA mailing list, or will you manually forward to those people?21:37
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phillwballoons: so far, I know that Jun Ma is a member from kylin, i am trying to dig through my archives are announcing the mirror to the -gnome who it is on there. I'm +99% sure that they also have some one on the list.22:11
phillwballoons: email sent....22:30
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