[06:30] <pitti_> Good morning
[07:10] <dholbach> good morning
[07:23] <shadeslayer> stgraber: is there an automated tool that can check if packages from PPA's are installable?
[07:33] <jibel> shadeslayer, did you look at piuparts? although I don't know how well it would support PPAs.
[07:34] <jibel> good morning everyone :)
[07:40]  * shadeslayer looks
[07:48] <shadeslayer> jibel: hmm, piuparts expects a deb to be passed to it
[07:49] <shadeslayer> I basically want something like : a clean miniman ubuntu install -> add PPA -> install package
[07:52] <jibel> shadeslayer, you can pass a package name with option --apt, what I don't know is how to add a PPA. I must be possible to inject a sources.list with the PPA and the associated key into the chroot
[07:52] <jibel> s/I must/It must
[07:53] <shadeslayer> yeah I think I know how to do that
[07:53] <shadeslayer> you can specify multiple mirrors
[07:53] <shadeslayer> so pass the first -m argument as the official mirror
[07:53] <shadeslayer> the second one as the PPA
[08:15] <shadeslayer> jibel: thanks, piuparts works
[08:16] <shadeslayer> or .. well .. kind of
[08:16] <shadeslayer> 5m52.5s ERROR: FAIL: Package purging left files on system:
[08:17] <shadeslayer> there's --warn-on-leftovers-after-purge though
[08:17] <shadeslayer> will just use that
[10:02] <jibel> pitti, I pushed the notifications for autopkgtest to production. For the moment, notifications are still sent to ubuntu-testing-notifications@lists.ubuntu.com and the person who should be normally notified is in the body of the message.
[10:02] <jibel> it looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694931/
[10:03] <pitti> jibel: oh, nice!!
[10:03] <jibel> pitti, the recipient is the last uploader of the package or the person who created the publication for sync requests.
[10:03] <pitti> jibel: are these sent on state changes only, or for every failure?
[10:05] <jibel> pitti, on state change, but that's what I want to verify. I had to trick the email publisher because "1rst-failure only" notifications are not supported on our version of this plugin.
[10:06] <pitti> very nice
[13:40] <smartboyhw> balloons, go and write a testimonial for Noskcaj's Ubuntu membership in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj
[13:40] <smartboyhw> That extends to everybody
[13:59] <smartboyhw> phillw, you aren't going to be happy, but Lubuntu isn't included in http://www.zdnet.com/five-operating-system-alternatives-to-windows-8-and-xp-7000013765/?s_cid=e539
[13:59] <pitti> l
[14:44] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, hey hey got any time to write a testimonial for Noskcaj?
[14:45] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, for what?
[14:46] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, membership.
[14:46] <SergioMeneses> ubuntu membership?
[14:46] <SergioMeneses> ok
[14:46] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, yep:)
[14:46] <smartboyhw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj
[14:46] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I'm working now but I'll write it to night
[14:47] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, :)
[14:47] <SergioMeneses> Noskcaj is only 14 years old!!!
[14:47]  * SergioMeneses feels so old
[14:48] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, I am 14:P
[14:49]  * smartboyhw wonders why two 14-year-olds can join Ubuntu QA at around the same time....
[14:49] <SergioMeneses> o0
[14:49] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I'm 24
[14:49] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, :)
[14:50] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, phillw is older than you:P
[14:50]  * smartboyhw wonders balloons age
[14:50]  * smartboyhw points SergioMeneses at JoseeAntonioR who is also 14 (or 15?)
[14:50] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm 16
[14:50] <JoseeAntonioR> and didn't exactly join QA
[14:51] <C1sM0> Hello, does anyone know how to find out if my laptop's hardware information was submitted to the Ubuntu Friendly Website?
[14:53] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR, I know. I'm trying to prove that SergioMeneses is quite old:P
[14:53] <SergioMeneses> aaaaah!
[14:54] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, um actually I heard a 14-year-old Italian LoCo guy running for membership next week (not Noskcaj, he will run on early May for the 2200 UTC one)
[14:54] <SergioMeneses> C1sM0, hi! look https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/Process
[14:55] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, when I was 14 ubuntu didn't exist
[14:55] <C1sM0> Thanks SergioMeneses
[14:55] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, true:P
[14:59] <balloons> smartboyhw, :-) Let's say I'm twice your age -- how's that?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> balloons, :P
[15:01] <SergioMeneses> balloons, is 24 ?
[15:01] <SergioMeneses> lol - 28
[15:01] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, duh it's 28.
[15:01] <balloons> :-)
[15:01]  * smartboyhw needs to teach elementary maths:)
[15:02] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, jajaja
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons, you written one yet?
[15:02] <C1sM0> SergioMeneses, can I ask one more question? On the TestDrive under the Xubuntu Tab I have 2 ISO listed, is that a bug?
[15:03] <smartboyhw> C1sM0, that's an already filed bug.
[15:03] <smartboyhw> balloons was supposed to fix that:P
[15:03] <SergioMeneses> C1sM0, you have 2 isos for the same system, right?
[15:03] <C1sM0> yes
[15:04] <SergioMeneses> C1sM0, yes, but we are working on it, don't worry ;)
[15:04] <C1sM0> Ok, Thanks
[15:13] <balloons> smartboyhw, written one what?
[15:13] <balloons> smartboyhw, lol.. yes i remember you wanted me to fix testdrive :-)
[15:13] <smartboyhw> balloons, testimonial for Ubuntu membership for Noskcaj:)
[15:13] <smartboyhw> balloons, yep.
[15:13] <balloons> ohh.. of course!
[15:14] <smartboyhw> balloons, do your Canonical Community Team first:P
[15:14] <balloons> yes, it's on the list.. I was excitied to see him going for membership
[15:14] <smartboyhw> balloons, +1
[15:15] <smartboyhw> Sadly he is running for the 2200 UTC one, if not I would do some live-time support.
[15:18] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, balloons are you working on testdrive now?
[15:18] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, not me.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> I said that if balloons doesn't work on it I won't:P
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, jejeje
[15:21] <balloons> lol.. smartboyhw at the moment, no I'm not working on it :-)
[15:21] <smartboyhw> balloons, boo:P
[15:33] <balloons> ohh.. SergioMeneses since your here :-) I was going merges for ubuntu manual tests.. how's brasero?
[15:34] <SergioMeneses> balloons, is done!
[15:34] <SergioMeneses> I'm going to merge it
[15:34] <balloons> woot!
[15:34] <balloons> probably an unknown word to all of you ...
[15:35] <smartboyhw> balloons, I heard it many times before in different channels.
[15:35] <balloons> means 'yay!'
[15:35] <smartboyhw> balloons, I think you should get your nick "guitara" in Forums changed to "balloons"
[15:36] <balloons> is that possible?
[15:37] <smartboyhw> balloons, ask elfy:P
[15:40] <SergioMeneses> balloons, done: https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/brasero-tests2/+merge/158156
[15:40] <SergioMeneses> bug 1157481
[15:41] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, ran the script?
[15:41] <smartboyhw> Bah no diff yet:(
[15:41] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, javier script?
[15:42] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, yep.
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, no, I only had to do some changes
[15:42] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, OK....
[15:43] <balloons> SergioMeneses, smartboyhw .. I always spell check and check formatting using the script.. Part of doing the review :-)
[15:43] <smartboyhw> balloons, I have no diff:P
[15:44] <smartboyhw> I like LP diffs to do the thing for me.
[15:44] <balloons> ahh.. more so than bzr diff?
[15:44] <smartboyhw> balloons, yep.
[15:44] <balloons> you can use an external tool with bzr diff if you want to
[15:44] <smartboyhw> bzr diff is way too long that exceeds the terminal (especially when I am packaging)
[15:44] <balloons> I like a tool called 'meld'. But I'm with you.. lp diff's are quite nice.
[15:44] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, jajaja
[15:44] <smartboyhw> balloons, they are COLOURFUL:P
[15:45] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, what's jajaja?!
[15:45] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, you can work with bazzar explorer
[15:45]  * smartboyhw feels quite annoyed being jajaja-ed by SergioMeneses 
[15:45] <SergioMeneses> o0
[15:47] <balloons> huehue
[15:48]  * balloons enjoys culture!
[15:48] <balloons> SergioMeneses, awesome, ok so smartboyhw did you want to review?
[15:49] <SergioMeneses>  \o/
[15:49] <smartboyhw> balloons, no. I am just doing the check that's all.
[15:49] <smartboyhw> I need to sleep:(
[15:49] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, :O
[15:49] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, already something wrong
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[15:49] <smartboyhw> Oops sorry my fault:P
[15:49]  * smartboyhw has bloody eyes today
[15:49] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, take a rest ;)
[15:51]  * smartboyhw gives up the manual review. (Should be alright though)
[15:53] <balloons> and he's out :-)
[15:53] <balloons> ok SergioMeneses I'll keep on the review then :)
[15:54] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ok
[15:55] <balloons> SergioMeneses, the 'supr' button?
[15:55] <balloons> you mean the minus sign?
[15:56] <balloons> the remove all looks like a broom
[15:56] <balloons> the add looks like a plus sign
[15:56] <balloons> ohh.. maybe you meant subtract?
[15:57] <SergioMeneses> balloons, yes, the supr button, you can remove files with it
[15:57] <balloons> 'supr' doesn't make sense to me
[15:58] <SergioMeneses> balloons, we can change it, delete key?
[15:59] <balloons> I would call the icon a minus sign, or perhaps subtract. Pressing the delete key also invokes the shortcut to remove it
[15:59] <balloons> but I'm confused what got lost in translation with 'supr'.. what does it mean?
[16:00] <balloons> smartboyhw, we're forum friends now :-)
[16:00] <balloons> good night!
[16:00] <smartboyhw> balloons: :) will be idling here though.
[16:01] <balloons> OHH.. you mean the super button? like the windows button?
[16:01] <SergioMeneses> balloons, it is my bad,  "supr" key is the "delete" key in English
[16:01] <balloons> SergioMeneses, ahh.. that's it
[16:01] <balloons> enter = intro
[16:02] <SergioMeneses> yes, the same
[16:02] <balloons> retroceso = backspace
[16:02] <balloons> supr = delete
[16:02] <balloons> :-)
[16:02] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses fix fix...:P
[16:02] <SergioMeneses> balloons, correct
[16:02] <balloons> yes to an english user supr is confusing.. potentially meaning the super button, windows button, meta key
[16:02] <balloons> or nothing at all :-)
[16:02] <balloons> hehe.. awesome
[16:02] <SergioMeneses> but we can fix it only changing "supr" - "delete" ?
[16:02] <balloons> isn't being multilingual fun?
[16:02] <balloons> SergioMeneses, yes.. change it to delete
[16:03] <balloons> it makes sense then :-0
[16:03] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sometimes
[16:03] <SergioMeneses> jajaja
[16:03] <balloons> ok let me finish in case anything else is found
[16:03] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ok
[16:04] <smartboyhw> balloons: Mwahaha get yourself an Ubuntu member custom avatar in Ubuntu Forums.
[16:04]  * smartboyhw has a Kubuntu member one.
[16:05] <balloons> Can you change "<dd>The selected file is spliting in N tracks, each one with a 10min duration</dd>" to "<dd>The selected file is split into N tracks, each one with a 10min duration</dd>"
[16:05] <balloons> again: "<dd>The selected file is splited in 3 tracks</dd>" to "<dd>The selected file is split into 3 tracks</dd>"
[16:06] <balloons> "<dd>The main "New Audio Disc Project" window is displayed with the file splited in 3 chuncks</dd>" to "<dd>The main "New Audio Disc Project" window is displayed with the file split into 3 chunks</dd>"
[16:06] <SergioMeneses> balloons, did you check Javier's revisions about brasero testcase?
[16:07] <smartboyhw> balloons you did see what I say right?
[16:07] <balloons> SergioMeneses, not really, why?
[16:07] <SergioMeneses> always is good to have more points of view
[16:07] <balloons> SergioMeneses, there's a few other minor misspellings.. I usually just fix them
[16:07] <balloons> I don't see anything else confusing tho :-)
[16:07] <SergioMeneses> balloons, perfect
[16:08] <SergioMeneses> so, let me work on this changes
[16:08] <balloons> perfect.. then I'll do the spell check and commit it :-)
[16:09] <balloons> smartboyhw, custom avatar's
[16:09] <balloons> ohh boy
[16:09] <balloons> I like plain
[16:10] <smartboyhw> balloons: Boo:P
[16:42] <SergioMeneses> balloons, the new changes are here! https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses/ubuntu-manual-tests/brasero-testcase/+merge/158168
[16:43] <balloons> SergioMeneses, ohh a new proposal? I believe you can just commit to the branch you proposed to update..
[16:43] <balloons> anyways, ok, I'll grab this
[16:43] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I've updated the last one
[16:53] <SergioMeneses> ok, lunchtime
[18:55] <balloons> anyone have a non-raring install handy who can confirm something for me?
[18:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, me
[18:55] <balloons> hey Letozaf_ ;-)
[18:56] <balloons> ohh.. now nautilus crashes fun
[18:56] <Letozaf_> balloons, hey!
[18:56] <balloons> so, it seems if you have a file operations window open, you can't open a new nautilus window
[18:56] <balloons> or tab
[18:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, oh! let me try I have 12.10
[18:57] <balloons> yea.. so try copying a big file or overwriting one (so the dialog pops up) and then try and open a new window or tab
[18:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[18:57] <Letozaf_> balloons, just a second
[18:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, no crash for me, I copied an ISO to my desktop from Downloads directory, while I was copying I opened another nautilus window and also a another tab, but everything went fine
[18:59] <balloons> bizarre..
[19:00] <balloons> nautilus crashed after I did it as well
[19:00] <balloons> so maybe something raring specific
[19:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, let me try it in Raring on my notebook
[19:00] <balloons> I'll try and recreate it in a second ;-)
[19:00] <balloons> I need to copy some files.. lol
[19:00] <Letozaf_> balloons, :D
[19:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, no crashes on Raring either for me
[19:04] <balloons> very interesting...
[19:04] <Letozaf_> balloons, weired !
[19:04] <balloons> well.. there might be more to it
[19:05] <balloons> I was doing an sshfs transfer specifically. also I have some ppa stuff
[19:05] <Letozaf_> balloons, no logs ?
[19:06] <Letozaf_> balloons, to find what it could be ?
[19:07] <Letozaf_> balloons, let me se if I can do a sshfs, and then copy and open a window/tab
[19:08] <balloons> Letozaf_, no.. I'm trying again right now tho
[19:08] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[19:09] <balloons> works this time.. well.. what the heck
[19:09] <balloons> Letozaf_, I did get a crash, so it must have been something else
[19:09] <balloons> but it wouldn't let me report because of the third party stuff I have
[19:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, have you got the crash in /var/crash
[19:10] <balloons> yep
[19:10] <balloons> it's big 25 mb ;-)
[19:10] <Letozaf_> balloons, :(
[19:11] <Letozaf_> balloons, maybe you are lucky and find something just peaking at it
[19:13] <balloons> Letozaf_, does your nautilus get really slow tho during the transer?
[19:13] <balloons> it's really glitchy for me, though it's working.. I mean, it's locking up and asking me if I want to force quit it stays locked for so long
[19:13] <balloons> ohh and look.. hehe
[19:14] <balloons> so that took about a minute for the window to respond
[19:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, no but probably I was copying only one ISO and it ended too quickly
[19:14] <Letozaf_> balloons, let me try to copy something bigger or more ISO's
[19:14] <balloons> yea.. or limit your upload speed to like nothing so it takes forever :-)
[19:15] <balloons> but after a minute of copying nautilus is very noticeably slow for me
[19:15] <balloons> but only opening a new window or tab. the existing windows and tabs operate fine
[19:16] <balloons> there is something in there that is preventing things from loading until it timesout or something
[19:16] <balloons> maybe I can just blame fuse
[19:16] <balloons> I have the sshfs happening via nautilus
[19:16] <balloons> not sure that was clear
[19:16] <balloons> it's mounted and being copied via nautilus
[19:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, I did not have sshfs maybe that is the cause
[19:17] <Letozaf_> balloons, I could try to do the same
[19:17] <balloons> I think it is
[19:18] <balloons> now that it's ended everything is back to normal
[19:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, it does not happen to me on Raring :( I opened a ssh connection on my PC from my notebook copied a big folder to another nautilus window on my notebook and meanwhile opened other nautilus windows and tabs, but everything seems fine
[19:25] <balloons> via sshfs right?
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, did you try to reboot maybe it's something that will go away after reboot
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes via sshfs
[19:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, I opened nautilus and selected connect to server
[19:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, ssh to my PC and copied from my PC to my notebook
[19:27] <Letozaf_> balloons, anyway in the past something similar happened to me but random
[19:28] <Letozaf_> balloons, I mean nautilus going like grey while doing things like copying files
[19:28] <balloons> right.. there's something funny going on
[19:28] <balloons> I have connections to other servers listed too
[19:28] <balloons> it'll take more debugging, but thank you for your help
[19:29] <balloons> it seems it's something more specific to me
[19:29] <balloons> so that's good
[19:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, ok
[19:59] <balloons> SergioMenesesAFK, you about?
[20:15] <phillw> balloons: do we have contact people for ubuntu-gnome and ubuntu-kylin?
[20:15] <balloons> phillw, sure
[20:15]  * balloons notes he's going to ask for names
[20:17] <phillw> balloons: yeah, we did make a start on a page with us on for the flavours, not too sure what happened to it...
[20:50] <phillw> soz balloons, WiFi was having a bad moment
[20:58] <balloons> no worries
[21:09] <phillw> Grr!!!!
[21:20] <phillw> balloons: hopefully I'm back as stable... (reboot of computer and router). The question was leading to an email request for teams to update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teams I'm not sure if all teams are aware of this area. Is it worth forwarding to the 'general' ubuntu-quality email list? (-gnome and -kylin) may not have anyone subscribed to the community-announce list
[21:20] <balloons> yea ;-)
[21:21] <phillw> I'll forward it, i didn't want to cause unwanted emails going out :)
[21:21] <balloons> phillw, umm yea you should let those new teams know about it
[21:22] <phillw> balloons: I hope that you have got at least one person from each on the ubuntu-quality mailing list? :)
[21:22] <balloons> I can't force them to signup, haha :-)
[21:22] <balloons> but I can simply add them
[21:22] <balloons> mwahahah
[21:23]  * balloons notes he hasn't done that
[21:23] <phillw> Let me know when it is done, and I'll forward it to the mailing list.
[21:24] <phillw> btw, good evening Noskcaj :)
[21:25] <Noskcaj> morning phillw
[21:28] <phillw> I'll have to adopt silverlions' welcome .... "Good $local_time_zone " :P
[21:30] <phillw> or "Good $local_time" which I think he uses :)
[21:36] <Noskcaj> phillw, lol
[21:37] <phillw> balloons: I've just re-read that comment, are you adding them to the QA mailing list, or will you manually forward to those people?
[22:11] <phillw> balloons: so far, I know that Jun Ma is a member from kylin, i am trying to dig through my archives are announcing the mirror to the -gnome who it is on there. I'm +99% sure that they also have some one on the list.
[22:30] <phillw> balloons: email sent....