[05:34] <romero126> did you switch to gnome ui when you logged in?
[05:34] <romero126> Theres a ubuntu icon next to your login. .. click that to change to kde/gnome/unity
[05:35] <Aaron_> i di,
[05:35] <Aaron_> i did, ;)
[05:35] <Aaron_> and is not working
[05:36] <fisher> Hello good people. Anyone familiar with JACK? I am having an issue where when I try to start the JACK server it tells me it cant acquire a device name. It is referencing this device: "hw:0" but hw:0 is my video card with HDMI. My sound car is hw:1. I tried correcting the problem with Qjackctl but I am still unable to start the JACK server
[05:40] <fisher> here is a pastebin of my message window. This is the information it provided when i try to start the JACK server and it fails.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694498/
[05:42] <histo> !sound | fisher
[05:42] <fisher> thanks histo.. I'll check it out
[05:43] <segin> Hey guys, about my question?
[05:44] <segin> How do I get Ubuntu to broadcast a WPA-protected 802.11 access point?
[05:44] <segin> I had it working as an insecure access point via the Internet Connection Sharing features of NetworkManager.
[05:45] <segin> Please note that I am setting this up for a friend whose is two time zones away via ssh, so some things I will be unable to test.
[05:47] <romero127> There are alot of users here.
[05:47] <goosechaser_noob> they might be asleep
[05:48] <Aaron> true that,
[05:48] <Aaron> ;)
[05:49] <romero127> is there a way to load virtualbox vm from TTY6?
[05:49] <histo> romero127: virtualbox has cli apps
[05:49] <histo> romero127: VBoxManage etc....
[05:50] <histo> romero127: /j #virtualbox
[05:50] <segin> Is there a virtual package for installing Ubuntu Server on top of a pre-existing Ubuntu installation?
[05:51] <segin> !server
[05:51] <poisoned_dragon> I think the answer is no, segin.
[05:51] <histo> segin: I don't even thinkk there is a specific server kernel anymore unless they are using lowlatency or something.
[05:52] <poisoned_dragon> Especially if the server version has a custom kernel.
[05:52] <histo> segin: what is it you are trying to do?
[05:52] <segin> histo: Run a Ubuntu-based desktop as a Wi-Fi router with WPA encryption.
[05:52] <histo> poisoned_dragon: the kernel if there is one would be in the same repos as desktop repos
[05:52] <yayahow> where is offtopic
[05:52] <histo> segin: What does that have to do with ubuntu-server iso?
[05:53] <histo> !ics | segin
[05:53] <segin> histo: ...
[05:53] <yayahow> ubotu offtopic
[05:53] <segin> The normal NetworkManager connection sharing does not provide any user-visible options for encryption.
[05:53] <yayahow> segin use a VPN
[05:53] <segin> yayahow: For a LAN?
[05:54] <yayahow> you can also configure it to "share"
[05:54] <yayahow> xD
[05:54] <segin> It's very useful if you're in the boonies where you don't have freeloader neighbours
[05:54] <poisoned_dragon> ubottu, he doesn't want ICS. He's looking for a means to encrypt in hotspot mode.
[05:54] <yayahow> you would need a second connection
[05:54] <segin> poisoned_dragon: Yes, thank you.
[05:54] <yayahow> ubottu offtopic
[05:54] <poisoned_dragon> Lulz! I'll remember that, ubottu :)
[05:54] <segin> yayahow: Like a Ethernet connection directly into a DOCSIS modem?
[05:54] <histo> segin: let me see if I can find you documentation
[05:55] <segin> yayahow: The Ubuntu machine in question is already doing ICS for the LAN.
[05:55] <yayahow> uh the lan connection itself is a docsis connection...i'm saying in order to share a wifi or lan connection, another device needs to be in the pc...a 2nd lan or wifi device...that's the only way to share
[05:56] <histo> segin: there are security options in network manager btw
[05:56] <yayahow> another pc can not connect or share anything without a dedicated device.
[05:57] <histo> yayahow: He understands what you are saying. He has a lan connection to the docsis modem and wants to use the wifi card to create a hotspot nothing else is needed
[05:57] <yayahow> a vpn may be able to setup a virtual device to work around this though.
[05:57] <yayahow> oh cool
[05:58] <histo> segin: http://www.techienote.com/2011/12/create-hotspot-in-ubuntu-11-10.html here are pictures from 11.10 should be the same places in network manager
[05:58] <maven> It seems that the font hinting make a different look and feel in different application . What is the problem? Can someone check this?  http://pasteboard.co/1A7FTpb9.png
[05:58] <liquidmetal> codinghorror.com is a fun blog to read
[05:59] <liquidmetal> does anyone know other similar blogs? (programming oriented)
[05:59] <histo> !ot | liquidmetal
[06:00] <liquidmetal> :'(
[06:00] <maven> Anyone can spare any time on my question?
[06:02] <Aaron> !tell maven about ask
[06:03] <segin> histo: We're using Lubuntu on this machine as it's a desktop/server hybrid and LXDE has the lowest resource use, and as such, we have a different GUI front end to NetworkManager. What package is the standard Ubuntu frontend in?
[06:05] <histo> segin: are you using network manager or wicd?
[06:05] <segin> How would I be able to tell the difference?
[06:05] <histo> segin: dpkg -l | grep network-manager
[06:05] <histo> segin: or dpkg -l | grep wicd
[06:06] <segin> It'
[06:06] <segin> It's NetworkManager, except it's not the GUI frontend shown on that page
[06:06] <poisoned_dragon> maven: That might be currently normal. It just looks like the font is not in bold type in the drop down menu, even though it looks like it is in the applications menu. There might be a setting to change that.
[06:07] <segin> It's the "old" GNOME one from before Unity.
[06:08] <histo> segin: can you paste a picture?
[06:08] <histo> !paste | segin
[06:08] <segin> ...
[06:08] <segin> I know how to paste a picture. I'm far from new to Linux or networking.
[06:09] <segin> I've just never tried to use a PC as an access point.
[06:10] <maven> poisoned_dragon: I think the menu under the application menu is not in bold also. Both of them is not in bold type. And the font inside the firefox looks lighter than that of application menu. It is normal yesterday. The difference happened after  I install and remove the kde-desktop.
[06:10] <segin> histo: http://ompldr.org/vaTFwcA/2013-04-10-010945_1280x800_scrot.png
[06:12] <segin> histo: I'm not physically at the machine I am configuring; it's a thousand miles away, and I'm remotely administering it via SSH for someone else, however, it uses the same Lubuntu desktop base as my local machine.
[06:14] <maletor> does it make sense to partition both harddrives (boot and home) as gpt or is gpt something that only makes sense for boot drive?
[06:14] <segin> maletor: Is your firmware (U)EFI or BIOS?
[06:14] <maletor> former
[06:14] <segin> Then don't use GPT.
[06:14] <segin> At least, not on the boot drive.
[06:14] <maletor> former means it's uefi -- i'm pretty sure i want gpt
[06:15] <segin> Oh.
[06:15] <segin> Sorry, yes,
[06:15] <segin> Use EFI on the boot drive.
[06:15] <maletor> i will
[06:15] <maletor> my question is does it make sense to partition both harddrives (boot and home) as gpt or is gpt something that only makes sense for boot drive?
[06:15] <segin> Define "makes sense".
[06:16] <maletor> i guess you're right, it's basically just going to house /var /home and swap
[06:16] <segin> If /home is on a separate physical disk, then it truly does not matter what partitioning scheme you use on that drive.
[06:16] <maletor> right, so gpt would be a good choice, because it's newer?
[06:17] <segin> Well, it actually does not matter.
[06:17] <segin> GPT is a sane choice, yes
[06:17] <maletor> it's gotta be something
[06:17] <segin> But since the UEFI won't be touching that drive...
[06:17] <segin> You could use Apple Partition Map or BSD disklabels if you wanted to, and it wouldn't matter.
[06:18] <segin> As long as you use GPT on your boot drive, you can use any partition scheme supported by Linux on the rest of your drives.
[06:18] <maletor> principle of least astonishment would probably lend to making it gpt
[06:18] <segin> Yes.
[06:18] <maletor> cool segin. thanks
[06:18] <segin> However
[06:19] <fisher> is it possible to modify the "hw:0" assignments? For example: Change hw:1 to hw:0?
[06:19] <segin> If you think you would ever need to physically move that drive into an older machine for whatever reason, then consider MBR, but if said "older machine" is also running Linux, GPT is still fine.
[06:19] <maletor> segin: as far as i'm concerned this is the old machine
[06:20] <maletor> we are moving forward
[06:20] <segin> Oh, then you've got no reason to use anything else aside from maybe geek cred.
[06:20] <maletor> well uefi is faster than mbr
[06:20] <maletor> that's why i'm using it :)
[06:21] <maletor> and geek gred
[06:21] <segin> Ah, okay.
[06:21] <segin> If you are worried about being able to use as much disk space as possible, then MBR is actually better. GPT will reserve space for a EFI boot partition.
[06:22] <segin> But, like I said, as it's not a boot drive, there's no real difference in choice.
[06:48] <maletor> so for efi, should i have a partition for /boot /boot/efi and / ??
[07:00] <eric3> what up room,
[07:00] <eric3> i have a question
[07:00] <eric3> with the newest release
[07:05] <histo> maletor: no just /boot/efi  and /
[07:05] <histo> !uefi | maletor
[07:09] <delilah> anyone around to advise? i am experiencing an abundance of xruns, here
[07:10] <mar77i> good morning #ubuntu. how does ubuntu figure out if I have to reboot after an update? I have my own function for another distro, but I'd like to extend the check for this one too
[07:10] <auronandace> mar77i: depends on what gets updated
[07:10] <histo> !ask | delilah
[07:11] <delilah> apparently, i have a notification that my system crashed
[07:11] <auronandace> mar77i: a kernel or dbus update obviously requires a reboot
[07:11] <delilah> 7100 xruns and counting
[07:11] <delilah> not sure where to begin
[07:11] <histo> !details | delilah
[07:12] <mar77i> auronandace: the most current kernel version would do, but I can't really assume it ends with -generic on one side and with 17[0-9.]+ on the other
[07:12] <Morpheaus> histo, you definitely have a handle on the templates :)
[07:12] <histo> !botsnack
[07:13] <Morpheaus> lol
[07:13] <delilah> sorry, channels are silent.. i restarted 4 times. never had this problem. when i started jack, my xruns just went through the roof. I have kxstudio with self-compiled real-time kernel
[07:13] <delilah> at boot i notice apparmor errors
[07:13] <delilah> need 2.4 patch
[07:13] <mar77i> auronandace: also I'm not really willing to parse the logs.
[07:14] <histo> !derivatives | delilah
[07:14] <histo> delilah: did you experience these issue with the stock kernel?
[07:17] <delilah> histo: unfortunately (don't yell) when i recently installed amd proprietary drivers it only installed for this kernel.. i have no xorg installed in the other 2 kernels now.
[07:17] <delilah> parsing crashlog..
[07:18] <auronandace> delilah: these things happen when you use software outside the repos
[07:18] <mob001> how to install tomcat7 on ubuntu 10.04 LTS server
[07:19] <mob001> pls help on this...
[07:19] <delilah> aurondace: i know, that is why i stopped messing with GPU after 4 reinstalls.. but the opensource radeon driver kept causing overheat.. this is a known bug
[07:19] <Morpheaus> delilah, from what I know, xruns are caused by buffer underuns/overruns when processing.  Any issue that I have seen posted on Google relates to IRQ conflicts with hardware...have you checked to see if the device in question is sharing the same IRQ as possibly some other component?  Have you tried unplugging other USB components or disabling BIOS features (i.e. NIC's, Built-in Sound, unplug USB devices) to see if it has any effect?
[07:21] <ben1234> xss scanners
[07:22] <Morpheaus> delilah, I'd go to Google and type in "xruns" - there is a "linuxmusicians.com" site that seems to have forums that are similar to the content that you're asking - http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xruns
[07:22] <delilah> this just started within this hour. i have very few options available in bios but with last day or two i enabled virtual in bios
[07:23] <delilah> ProcCmdliine in crash report relates: "/usr/bin/systemsettings -caption System\ Settings --icon preferences-system"
[07:23] <Morpheaus> if it started in the last hour - what did you change in the environment?  any upgrades of packages - added a usb device - anything that could change?  Generally, it won't fail until something has been changed...
[07:23] <histo> delilah: use the ati driver from the repo
[07:23] <kewel> hello .. got a printer attached to lubuntu 12.04 machine, wanting to print from a windows 7 machine; got this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-printserver.html
[07:24] <kewel> it mentions setting 'security = user' in smb.conf .. is this necessary?
[07:24] <histo> kewel: you can set security = share
[07:24] <kewel> will the printer only be accessable by people on my wifi netowkr?
[07:25] <delilah> only one thing i have done: i opened a newly installed program for the first time that made me reboot in the first place:  "FocusWriter"
[07:25] <kewel> histo: will the printer only be accessable by people on my wifi netowkr?
[07:25] <amanthakur> HI guys, Anyone has used SNORT ????
[07:25] <mar77i> hmm. LANG=C dpkg --list '*linux-image-*' | sed -r '1,6d; s/^.{46}//; s/ .*//' | sort -V | tail -n 1 # the most reliable way to find the current kernel?
[07:25] <delilah> histo: ati driver is different from radeon, correct? you believe it won't cause overheat?
[07:25] <Abhijit> !details | amanthakur
[07:25] <histo> kewel: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS_printer_sharing read about IPP
[07:26] <histo> kewel: use IPP instead of samba
[07:26] <mar77i> the one installed ofc, that's what I'm trying to check :)
[07:26] <kewel> histo: really?  never heard of it ..
[07:26] <amanthakur> Abhijit,  have just installed snort on my FC17 virtualbox successfully and also ran it. Now i have added a rule to raise an alert on access of facebook.com. But my snort console is stuck at "Commencing Paket Processing...."...I don't see any logs in the terminal. Can anyone help me with it????
[07:26] <auronandace> mar77i: uname -a will show you the one in use
[07:27] <histo> delilah: system settings > hardware drivers  although if you are running a custom kernel good luck with it compiling the proper module
[07:27] <Morpheaus> delilah, have you tried uninstalling the application to see if it writes anything that may conflict?  You can always add it again...
[07:27] <histo> kewel: that's why I sent you the link
[07:27] <kewel> hah
[07:28] <mar77i> auronandace: yup. but the one returned from dpkg has a numeric suffix. as in 3.8.0.17.33 << what's the 33?
[07:28] <Morpheaus> delilah, I'm assuming you're on 12.04 and used the "focuswriter" package...right?
[07:28] <kewel> histo: welp, I just want to share with people on the house's wifi .. will samba not work?  thanks for the help btw
[07:28] <auronandace> mar77i: you are looking at 13.04, please use #ubuntu+1
[07:28] <Morpheaus> that looks like the raring kernel that was released today...33...
[07:29] <Morpheaus> beat me to it
[07:29] <histo> kewel: yes either should work
[07:29] <mar77i> you're kidding me?
[07:29] <histo> kewel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu#Ubuntu_print_server   here is the samba way
[07:29] <auronandace> mar77i: no
[07:29] <mar77i> I'll go ask in #sed then
[07:29] <auronandace> mar77i: this channel is for stable releases only
[07:29] <delilah> Morpheaus: yes, 12.04, installed from muon center
[07:29] <histo> kewel: Although you don't even need samba in most cases windows should be able to handle an IPP printer as per that other url I sent you.
[07:29] <mar77i> auronandace: does the stable release also have a fifth number on the kernel?
[07:30] <unknown329> hi
[07:30] <histo> kewel: to configure the server just go to http://localhost:631  on the ubuntu box
[07:30] <Morpheaus> delilah, I'd try to backtrack what has changed - if you added new hardware, changed a BIOS setting, so on and so forth, it could be the core of your issue
[07:30] <histo> kewel: then install the printer on the windows boxes http://ip.of.ubuntu.box/printers/printer_name
[07:31] <kewel> histo: oh neat .. i think my question is, if I set 'security = share' is that secure enough to just allow everyone that has access to the wifi net here?
[07:31] <histo> j;lkhkadsgv.kjns vlkjnaqg
[07:31] <kewel> type faster!
[07:31] <unknown329> how do we implement move-to-front compression to decode in java?
[07:31] <histo> kewel: It's up to you to decide what is secure for you.
[07:31] <delilah> should i be concerned about the apparmor module? do I really have to recomplie to fix that?
[07:31] <Morpheaus> delilah, For software, you can check Ubuntu Software Center and look at the history to see what has changed - it could even be related to a security update - once you see the list, you may be able to backport a package using Synaptic - you'd need to Google "synaptic select specific package" or something like that to override what was added/changed...
[07:32] <histo> kewel: I would use IPP and not samba if you want to use samba you can configure it for security = user it doesn't matter
[07:32] <kewel> histo: arg.  what I'm saying is .. what does 'security = share' do?! hahah
[07:32] <histo> kewel: share doesn't bother them with a user password to access shares on the linux box.
[07:32] <Abhijit> amanthakur, ask on fedora forum.
[07:32] <helmut_> hi
[07:32] <amanthakur> Abhijit, no one know there too. that's i asked here :P
[07:33] <kewel> histo: aweseome.  I think that's what I should do. sorry for the miscomm.  I really appreciate it!
[07:33] <Morpheaus> delilah, not sure - there are documented cases of apparmor being patched to fix snd-usb-calaq - the issue is very specific to certain hardware
[07:33] <Abhijit> amanthakur, then use their forum. mailing list. you won't get fedora help here. you can try ##linux
[07:33] <amanthakur> Abhijit, hmm ok thanks
[07:33] <Morpheaus> delilah, more specifically - snd-usb-calaq and xruns
[07:34] <delilah> Morpheaus: okay, here's the scoop on that: when I last ran updates several hours ago, some security updates were left unmarked, and since my problems with bootup and the new unsupported driver, (and unsupported kernel) i left those unchecked
[07:36] <delilah> I would like to just recompile for a better rt kernel with AMD configured and alsamixer pimps, for starters
[07:36] <Morpheaus> delilah, then the probability that it's related to a software update is greater than that of any other issue - you should go through each package that was updated, open Synaptic, and select the previous version and install that - after you've isolated the package, you can report it on launchpad - sadly your issue is extremely specific to your hardware...
[07:36] <Morpheaus> delilah, and trust me - I know what it's like to have a hardware issue - I'm using ubuntu 13.04 on MacTel (Macbook5,2) and some patches cause headaches and debugging to really resolve...
[07:36] <delilah> Morpheaus: sadly, it always is, which is why i have so many personalizations
[07:38] <delilah> Morpheaus: headaches. more like fevers I need to smooth out this overheating wrinkle I always get in over my head when i go near my graphics driver
[07:38] <Morpheaus> delilah, Ya - but I'd take the knowledge from anyone else on *nix - I can't load Windows 8 Embedded on my Hackberry A10 - but it runs Gentoo and Ubuntu perfectly :)
[07:39] <delilah> everything works well (if overheating is tolerable) until i try to fix graphics then it all deteriorates until reformat of hdd
[07:39] <wickedheadache> !offtopic
[07:40] <kewel> okay I'm getting stupider.
[07:40] <Morpheaus> delilah, many disagree with this statement (so take it with a grain of salt) - I _always_ use proprietary drivers instead of kernel maintained drivers.  While the proprietary drivers are annoying and bad for the open source community, I do feel that they have a better build quality/integration with hardware than any open source driver...
[07:40] <delilah> Morpheaus: I will take your advice, I agree on software for now.. thank you.
[07:40] <Morpheaus> <-- hoping people won't hate me...
[07:41] <Morpheaus> delilah, good luck :) - once it's working you can lock the package as well that caused the issue so you'll possibly have dependency issues, but at least your system will work as you expect it to.
[07:41] <delilah> Morpheaus: but there are so so many nit-picky configs for certain things
[07:41] <wickedheadache> dam i need to reboot in ubuntu =/
[07:41] <delilah> and too many options for installs
[07:42] <histo> kewel: huh?
[07:42] <kewel> histo: go with me here.  my buddy's win7 machine didn't see anything else on the wifi network other than himself.  I just installed samba print server on my lubuntu box. .. if I go bother him will he see my machine or printer now?  I configured per https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-printserver.html ??
[07:42] <Morpheaus> delilah, welcome to Linux - you are expected to "know it" much more than Windows...but I will say after you "know it", it's easier to make changes that you want because of the granular level of control...
[07:42] <kewel> histo: cept for 'security = share'
[07:42] <kewel> =)
[07:42] <histo> kewel: assuming it's in the same workgroup and or domain
[07:43] <histo> kewel: smbtree on your box should show you if youc an see shares on the network
[07:43] <kewel> that's what I'm wondering .. his machine didn't see me before I installed samba print server .. I configured it with the workgroup name he uses ..  will he see me now?
[07:43] <kewel> ^^ histo
[07:43] <histo> kewel: As i've said I would use IPP and just avoid the entire issue with samba in the first place. IPP has been supported by windows since Windblows 2000 so i'm not sure why the wiki and help pages haven't been updated
[07:44] <histo> kewel: he should assuming you've set everythignj up properly
[07:44] <kewel> histo: I'll go find out. =)
[07:44] <kewel> brb
[07:44] <histo> Is this sky blue???
[07:44] <Morpheaus> purple
[07:45] <histo> actually should be is the sky going to be blue tomorrow?
[07:45] <kewel> histo: he's asleep.
[07:45] <delilah> Morpheaus: one last thing, I like your responses; what would you do in order to be sure you had a neat and working install script for an unruly driver? the ubuntu wikis are sometimes outdated, for starters.
[07:45] <Morpheaus> let's hope so - :)
[07:45] <kewel> grAATE
[07:45] <histo> kewel: well he doesn't need to print in his sleep hopefully
[07:45] <Morpheaus> delilah, what's the driver?
[07:46] <kewel> no but I want to know if this schtuff werked!! hahaha
[07:46] <Morpheaus> delilah, more specifically - what is the driver name that you're dealing with?
[07:46] <kewel> I wonder what else samba does.
[07:46] <delilah> Morpheaus: AMD radeon 4xxx (ATI rs880) graphics
[07:46] <histo> kewel: samba does windblows file sharing
[07:46] <kewel> I'm new to the linux/windows networking stuff
[07:47] <kewel> is there a gui util I can nose around in?
[07:47] <histo> kewel: the newer version of samba4 that is due out soon does active directory in linux.
[07:47] <kewel> neato
[07:47] <kewel> histo: a gui util for samba? (lubuntu 12.04, here)
[07:48] <kewel> shoulda googled steada typed here..  checkin...
[07:49] <delilah> Morpheaus: The new catalyst won't support 4xxx and under, i believe, except natty-precise, but with a kernel <3.2 if i am not mistaken, for starters..
[07:49] <histo> kewel: hold up let me check
[07:50] <histo> !swat | kewel
[07:50] <Morpheaus> delilah, for that device - it looks like there are two drivers that work - xserver-xorg-video-ati and xserver-xorg-video-radeon.  There are generally two components to a driver in linux - a kernel module and then support X11 drivers that allow for DRI, AIGLX, GLX, and other functions that are used by 3d renderers and compositing engines in linux.
[07:50] <delilah> Morpheaus: one user posted a kernel rebuild for just such a situation, i discovered a few days ago but haven't reviewed yet
[07:51] <Morpheaus> delilah, trying to compile a kernel from source, while a great idea, also introduces other components that can fail during load if you did not compile a module.  On top of that, you could have build issues when certain combinations of hardware is selected for module/kernel building
[07:52] <Morpheaus> delilah, personally - I'd consider these options - each of them require you to backup your system to recover from a failure
[07:52] <delilah> Morpheaus: hence, my great hesitation; with my default radeon installation and mesa drivers my glxgears were at 56 fps. so...
[07:52] <Morpheaus> delilah, first option - try raring (13.04) to see if any of the upstream fixes were integrated into the newer versions of the kernel...
[07:53] <delilah> *gasp*
[07:53] <Morpheaus> delilah, second option - rollback changes applied to isolate a specific package and lock it so that it's not upgraded in the future - long term you'll want to go through the bug submission process
[07:54] <Morpheaus> delilah, one of the last options would be to compile a kernel from the ground up - this isn't impossible nor extremely hard once you understand it, but you will spend a week usually to understand how the build process works and what is actually occuring and needed for the compile process and deployment to be successful
[07:54] <delilah> Morpheaus: I have a partition installed for testing. I suppose i could use that ; is there any possible way to grab data through the partition for backup?
[07:55] <delilah> (i have been having permission access issues between users)
[07:56] <kewel> histo: welp .. I think I did everything right .. just have to wait till morn to test er out.  thank you.
[07:56] <kewel> histo: I'll tell ya if it works or not.
[07:56] <Morpheaus> delilah, when I create images for my arm device - i usually just do a cp -rpP * /mnt/mydrive - you may want to install a package or even do a disk level backup using Norton Ghost or something like that - if you use the cp method, if the upgrade fails and you need to move back, you will need to re-run the grub installer...you'll also need to boot from a rescue disk (ubuntu live cd) to make sure there are no mounted partitions during
[07:56] <Morpheaus>  processing as well...
[07:57] <delilah> Morpheaus: I am trying to stay close to the Kxstudio distro model. its support is growing and stability has gained much strength.. it works so well for me except for my video
[07:59] <Morpheaus> delilah, totally understand - but any time you want a newer kernel/package that's built off of what kxstudio does not distribute, you're walking into no man's land when trying to address the issues.  There is technical information to address it, but you still need to be able to dig in and try, try, try and sometimes face the fact that it can't be fixed and re-evaluate the distribution, hardware, et cetera...
[07:59] <histo> kewel: np if not try IPP
[08:00] <histo> kewel: You shouldn't have to change anythign to make sure that works other than make sure the printer is set to shar ein cups
[08:00] <kewel> histo: will do.
[08:00] <kewel> histo: ya .. I set it to share when I installed the printer many moons ago .. I'm just wondering if his win7 box will see my lubuntu box.
[08:00] <Morpheaus> delilah, so - if the changes that were made in the last hour are related to custom builds - remove it - if you can't then you may need to start from scratch.  Any time I do a custom build when using configure/make, I always make a backup as the files are usually written without an uninstall script
[08:01] <histo> kewel: It should
[08:01] <Morpheaus> delilah, if you didn't compile anything - you can look at your package history to see if there is a specific version that caused the issue - you could then revert it, ensure it works, and then submit a bug request in which they'll ask for more detailed information...
[08:01] <histo> kewel: if you convince him to eventually use linux you can just IPP and no need for samba
[08:01] <histo> actaully there is no need now but some people use it.
[08:01] <killer> is it possible to develop window applications inside linux
[08:02] <Morpheaus> delilah, the process is painful, as you don't know if it's going to be addressed, or if it will be deferred - but if you at least post it, there's a chance others will see it as well and chime in/offier potential fixes
[08:02] <Morpheaus> offier = offer
[08:02] <kewel> histo: nuttin doin.  he's like 48 years old and is new to computers.
[08:03] <kewel> older I think I dono
[08:03] <kewel> surely. newayz
[08:03] <delilah> Morpheus: oh okay, good idea.. i willlll have to start from scratch because you are right. i did compile. but i may as well try a different distro for my hardware, since i have reinstalled kubuntu precise 5 times.
[08:04] <delilah> (since october)
[08:05] <kewel> histo: the house's main box is a piii1ghz 512mb -- xp was botched so I installed lubuntu =)
[08:05] <Morpheaus> delilah, I know it's not fun - I've done the same with Ubuntu many times - along with Windows as well - but if you have a system that works well, and you want to experiment with it, it makes sense to at least create a backup to recover it in case of failure - for some installs you may even be able to get by using a usb storage device for the backup...
[08:06] <delilah> Morpheus: at least, is there a quick-running backup method for low-level data storage and basic package installs that can be run from shell?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a gui package to sort logs with colours/groups
[08:07] <delilah> thats what i've been holding my breath for
[08:07] <Kurdistan> Hi is there any chance to install nvidia 304.88 package driver for ubuntu 12.04.2 without breaking things?
[08:07] <delilah> Morpheus: i don't even need a gui to backup, either, prefer simplicity.
[08:08] <niftylettuce> any of you like to cook in here?
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> cook?
[08:09] <Kurdistan> nvidia 304.88 <<--- latest nvidia legacy driver
[08:09] <Morpheaus> delilah, I generally use sbackup (Simple Backup) - it's on the software center and works well for my purposes...
[08:10] <Morpheaus> delilah, you could also use rsync to accomplish the same task...
[08:10] <MestreLion> when a new email client / video player /www browser / etc is installed, should it set itself as the default app for its "category" ?
[08:10] <kewel> gnite all
[08:11] <MonkeyDust> MestreLion  no
[08:11] <delilah> Morpheaus: I blew off hard copies and data backups when I couldn't access xorg at boot a few months ago lost everything do either/both have simple commands and well defined options?
[08:12] <Morpheaus> delilah, rsync or even tar would be my preference - both could be setup as cron jobs that run daily
[08:13] <delilah> i suck at remembering tarball unpack. i suck at remembering file pathways..
[08:13] <delilah> i have to write EVERYTHING
[08:13] <Morpheaus> delilah, sbackup does have a restore option from command line - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite
[08:14] <Morpheaus> delilah, eventually you won't have to write it down - unless of course you're using the find command :)
[08:14] <disappearedng> Hey for bash how do I tell curl to escape urls like that automatically?  localhost:8888/liked?look_ids=[487, 1569, 3004, 3237, 9918]
[08:15] <Morpheaus> disappearedng, value="$(perl -MURI::Escape -e 'print uri_escape($ARGV[0]);' "$2")"
[08:15] <Morpheaus> disappearedng, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/296536/urlencode-from-a-bash-script
[08:16] <delilah> Morpheaus: awesome, I have heard similar about it. I am slowly getting it.. I just wish there was software or good training exercise tutorials to help familiarize myself with "the grind" i am not adept with programming but I strangely enough enjoy it, plus I would lke my kids to learn. Is there anything like that?
[08:17] <histo> delilah: <tab> completion is your friend
[08:17] <krcdoadx> the !dock trigger says ubuntu includes avant-window-navigator, but I cant find it in synaptic
[08:17] <Capprentice> What is GNUStep ? Any one uses GNUStep on Ubuntu ?
[08:18] <delilah> histo: again?
[08:18] <Capprentice> What is GNUStep ? Any one uses GNUStep on Ubuntu ?
[08:19] <disappearedng> Hey Morpheaus how do I do this? export ARG='localhost:8888/liked?look_ids=[487, 1569, 3004, 3237, 9918]' perl -MURI::Escape -e 'print uri_escape($ARG);'
[08:19] <krcdoadx> Capprentice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnustep   I don't think many people use it
[08:20] <Morpheaus> delilah, my son uses a Hackberry A10 (he's 5) with ubuntu 12.10 armhf that I loaded for him - he'll be better at using a *nix derivative better then I will (hopefully) some day - I can't say on the training - everything I know I've learned the hard way - I'm not sure if another method exists - the most knowledge that I gained about linux revolved around Gentoo and FreeBSD - but it was hundreds of hours of trial and error...all over
[08:20] <Morpheaus>  a long time though...
[08:20] <Capprentice> krcdoadx, I already read that. I wanted to confirm whether its worth a try on Ubuntu or not. It came out when searcing for GDL -1.0.
[08:21] <histo> delilah: for remembering paths etc... some_really_long_path could be completed with some_re<press tab key>
[08:21] <Morpheaus> disappearedng, not sure - there's also "curl --data-urlencode" and documentation on this method in the man pages that may simplify it further if you can have curl as a dependency...
[08:23] <Morpheaus> disappearedng, there's also a pure bash example for this in the URL I sent you...
[08:29] <delilah> Where to go general unix gibber?? at this hour?
[08:29] <iceroot> is there a reason why ubuntu is using "rwx------" on /home/userdir? because apache2 mod_userdir will not work with it. on debian /home/username is set to rwxr-xr-x
[08:30] <iceroot> so should i put apache in my usergroup? or set home to o+rx?
[08:30] <sw_> delilah, like an off-topic channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <barnex> probably privacy, so the other users can't go into your home directory?
[08:30] <iceroot> barnex: its encrypted
[08:30] <barnex> iceroot: afaik you only need +x for apache
[08:30] <barnex> iceroot: well, it's mounted decrypted when you are logged on
[08:31] <barnex> iceroot: try listing your 'encrypted' home directory as root
[08:31] <iceroot> barnex: strange, apache2 is working with o+x, i thought it would need o+rx
[08:31] <barnex> it needs x to enter directory, and r to list files
[08:31] <barnex> if it does know which file it needs to access, r isn't needed
[08:32] <iceroot> barnex: the list-module is working with o+x
[08:32] <barnex> iceroot: well, there
[08:32] <delilah> HATS OFF to #ubuntu-support buddies. appreciated.
[08:32] <barnex> iceroot: well, there's +r on the directory you are listinng
[08:32] <barnex> iceroot: but doesn't have to be higher in directory tree
[08:33] <iceroot> barnex: ah you are right, i only need the +r in public_html and not home
[08:33] <histo> delilah: or #linux
[08:33] <histo> !alis | delilah
[08:33] <barnex> obviously I'm right :-)
[08:33] <iceroot> barnex: thank you for the useful info
[08:34] <iceroot> i guess o+x on home is not a big security issue (single user system)
[08:35] <delilah> thx guys
[08:35] <barnex> iceroot: np. It's fine, as long as you don't mess your privileges down the directory tree
[08:35] <barnex> because it's possible to guess what directories you have
[08:36] <barnex> anyway, in a single user system your user is the most likely to be compromised, so moot point anyway
[08:38] <foobArrr> I have files with both "_YYYYMMDD.txt" and "_YYYY-MM-DD.txt" suffix. I want to rename "_YYYY-MM-DD.txt" to "_YYYYMMDD.txt", is there an easy way to do that?
[08:39] <brayn> Morning! Is there a known memory leak on Chrome for Ubuntu 12.10 64? After half a day's work Chrome ends up using all my RAM
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> brayn: im using chrome on 64bit no problems here
[08:47] <brayn> lotuspsychje: How many tabs do you have open at the same time?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> brayn: it works even faster then firefox, many tabs
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> brayn: any sites make it lag maybe?
[08:48] <brayn> lotuspsychje: That's really weird. From what I see it gets worse as I use the dev tools. Do you happen to use those?
[08:49] <brayn> lotuspsychje: it gets to the point where one tab uses ~2G if I use the dev tools on it
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> brayn:no, does chrome show high recources on system monitor?
[08:50] <berggreen> My computer is set up in dualboot (win 7 & Ubuntu 12.04). When I boot up and select Win7 from the bootmenu it doesn't boot in Windows but returns to the bootmenu. I'm pretty sure my Windows-installation isn't corrupted. Is there a way to enable me to boot up in Windows again without re-installing either or bots OS?
[08:51] <zippitysquashed> Ubuntu
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> berggreen  repair the grub menu
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> berggreen: try a update-grub on ubuntu
[08:51] <berggreen> lotuspsychje: I'll try that. :-)
[08:51] <brayn> lotuspsychje: It shows the same usage as the chrome task manager in chrome does. It's hard to tell as it shows each tab as a separate process with its own memory
[08:52] <zippitysquashed> orange makes the nicest uniforms
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> berggreen: or repair like Monkeydust advices
[08:52] <brayn> lotuspsychje: if I close chrome the system uses ~1.5G of RAM
[08:56] <kevin999> Hi all - got a challenge for you all !
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> brayn: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and play around with chrome
[08:56] <kevin999> Just plugged in USB drive to BT home HUB
[08:56] <kevin999> run SMBTREE and see the hub
[08:56] <kevin999> how do I mount the disk to be able to access the data ?
[08:57] <kevin999> on windows - it's just discovered via browse network and looks like any other computer with shared drive
[09:02] <histo> kevin999: browse the network and dboule click it just like windows
[09:02] <histo> kevin999: or mount -t cifs //ip.of.hub/direcotry /path/to/mount
[09:02] <histo> sudo !!
[09:03] <kevin999> command line - I'll try the second option
[09:04] <zippitysquashed> wazzup?
[09:04] <Kakadu> hey. Which packages shoudl I install in Raring to use pkg-config with Qt5? I have tried to execute `apt-file search Qt5Qml.pc` but it does not show anything....
[09:04] <gazzwi86> so my server has not updated to british summer time.  How can I make sure the server handles this automatically?
[09:05] <zippitysquashed> Mint
[09:06] <kevin999> histo: - seems to accept command but no mount occurs can't see anything in syslog either
[09:07] <kevin999> histo: - is there the equivalend command line option to see the share name?
[09:07] <kevin999> histo: - thinking along lines of smbclient -L
[09:08] <Kakadu> fixed. I needed to execute `apt-file update` before
[09:08] <O0ddity> Does anyone know how to boot ubuntu 12.04 into single user mode when using the Windows boot manager
[09:08] <histo> kevin999: share the name of what?
[09:09] <kevin999> histo: as in browse the server IP to discover the share name on the hub
[09:09] <histo> kevin999: open nautlius and hit ctrl+l you can type in smb://ip.of.hub   to see the shares
[09:09] <histo> kevin999: or smbtree will show you the share names
[09:09] <kevin999> histo: nautlius command not found
[09:10] <Aaron> kevin999, sudo apt-get install nautilus
[09:10] <Aaron> ;)
[09:11] <kevin999> histo: it prompts mee for a password - what password does it want?
[09:12] <histo> kevin999: if you used sudo it prompts for admin users password. If the remote location is prompting it wan'ts user/pass to access the share.
[09:12] <histo> kevin999: are you running ubuntu?
[09:13] <kevin999> histo: yes
[09:13] <kevin999> I'm direct into root - no sudo required
[09:13] <DrGrov> Hello everyone
[09:14] <kevin999> Aaron: E: Couldn't find package nautilus
[09:14] <zippitysquashed> Howdy
[09:14] <DrGrov> I got my modeline set in xorg.conf but I can not boot all the way to the login screen. Any way to get into safe mode?
[09:14] <sgo11> why is there no sent folder in my evolution imap account? Is this normal? I can only check sent mails in mail provider's browser UI. thanks.
[09:14] <histo> kevin999: nautilus is the file browswer in ubuntu
[09:14] <histo> kevin999: is this a server install?
[09:15] <kevin999> no - server is good - just after a share
[09:15] <DrGrov> This problem is because I want to get 1920x1080 out of my TV but can not with the normal nouveau driver. So I am stuck with a black screen before I get to the login screen. Any thoughts on how to get into the boot menu?
[09:15] <histo> kevin999: I'm really confused as to how you are running ubuntu without nautilus
[09:16] <histo> kevin999: lsb_release -a
[09:16] <DrGrov> she_dyed: Hi there, we talked last night about modelines and xorg.conf correct?
[09:16] <kevin999> histo: It's a Debian 10.04 lts ubuntu server install
[09:17] <DrGrov> I have a backup of my xorg.conf but can not seem to get into the "boot options menu" at startup. Can not remember the key combination. Anyone know what I mean or am I explaining it poorly?
[09:17] <zippitysquashed> DrGrov: try uninstallingplymouth
[09:17] <zippitysquashed> DrGrov: try uninstalling plymouth
[09:17] <kevin999> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5694833/
[09:17] <DrGrov> zippitysquashed: The problem seem to be I can not get into the login screen at all. It is just blank. Can not drop down to ttyl1 even.
[09:18] <starbuck> hello, what do i have to do to run wireshark (or any other program) as root by default? i want to be able to click on the desktop symbol and gt asked for the sudo password or something like that
[09:18] <histo> kevin999: well that doesn't make sense but okay.  you should use sudo mount -t cifs //ip.of.server/sharename    /directory/to/mount/to
[09:18] <DrGrov> zippitysquashed: Isn't there a boot menu option at startup which users should be able to access in order to get into safe mode?
[09:18] <zippitysquashed> you have to tell grub to use FB
[09:18] <DJones> kevin999: That pastebin says Ubuntu 8.04 which isn't supported anymore
[09:19] <zippitysquashed> try pressing c at boot time
[09:19] <DrGrov> Or perhaps what I want to get into is the GRUB menu. Running 12.04.
[09:19] <histo> !eol | kevin999
[09:19] <histo> kevin999: don't believe 8.04 did cifs but can't remember
[09:20] <emma-> i used to date a guy named Ubuntu
[09:20] <vlt> histo: It did.
[09:20] <emma-> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[09:20] <vlt> emma-: Stop it.
[09:20] <emma-> that silly nigger
[09:20] <niko> emma-: enough
[09:20] <histo> kevin999: please pastebin what you are typing and what the error is. Also you really need to upgrade your ubuntu
[09:21] <zippitysquashed> emma-: HexChat 2.9.5 [x64] / Windows 8 [2.40GHz].
[09:21] <kevin999> histo: didn't realise this was eol, I'll upgrade soon. In the meantine your command has worked :-)
[09:22] <kevin999> histo: I had to create a brand new directory - so I'm thinking perhaps it was a permissions error to the location in the filesystem
[09:22] <histo> kevin999: if you want it to mount on boot /etc/fstab
[09:22] <DrGrov> Is it just enough to press Shift while booting up to get into the grub menu?
[09:23] <histo> kevin999: the directory you are mounting to has to exist
[09:23] <histo> DrGrov: yes
[09:23] <kevin999> histo: Great support - Thanks
[09:23] <histo> DrGrov: I usually hammer on it.
[09:23] <DrGrov> histo: I will give it a go now. Ah, the hammer technique. Conquer and destroy :)
[09:24] <DrGrov> histo: The problem is that I can not get further if I do not get into safe mode or something like ttyl1 in order to copy the backup of xorg.conf back.
[09:24] <kevin999> histo: just picking up on that last coment - what needs to go in /etc/fstab
[09:25] <histo> kevin999: //ip.of.server/sharename    /directory/to/mount/to   cifs   any_options_you_want  0 0
[09:25] <histo> !fstab | kevin999
[09:25] <DrGrov> Ah, I can not even load GRUB. Just a blank screen. What should I do now then?
[09:26] <histo> DrGrov: you could boot to a live usb or cd and repair
[09:26] <DrGrov> histo: How do I repair then? Just simply from the menu?
[09:26] <DrGrov> histo: I hope I still have the 12.04 CD left so I can do it.
[09:27] <kevin999> Gota say you guys always offer great support and advice - thanks all for you input - guess I need to get on with some work now !! :-)
[09:27] <kevin999> Speak soon no doubt - regards kevin
[09:27] <histo> DrGrov: mount the root fs from the live cd and edit he xorg.conf
[09:27] <histo> DrGrov: or whatever file you need to repair
[09:28] <DrGrov> histo: Ah, mount the root fs is done how exactly?
[09:29] <histo> DrGrov: easiest way for you would be to double click it in the gui.  Or you could open a termi9nal and sudo mount /dev/of/root /mnt
[09:30] <DrGrov> histo: I found Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop 64-bit CD lying around. I hope it can oot.
[09:30] <DrGrov> *boot
[09:31] <histo> DrGrov: shoudlb e able to.
[09:32] <DrGrov> histo: This is good, it is loading from the CD. Probably yes the GUI would be the easiest way to doing it.
[09:33] <histo> DrGrov: yeah go to places > where.ever
[09:33] <histo> DrGrov: you should see the drive if not just lsblk to find the dev and mount /dev/sda# /mnt
[09:33] <DrGrov> histo: Okay, I will soon be in (hopefully).
[09:34] <tokern3> don't know which one is better :  downthemall    or   multiget    or    wsdownloadfast        or  flareget     or    prozgui             ?
[09:34] <Myrtti> try them all?
[09:35] <DrGrov> histo: I wonder though. Was it the modeline in xorg.conf that really caused the problem? The monitor should do it with the nouveau driver.
[09:35] <Myrtti> !best | tokern3
[09:35] <histo> DrGrov: I didn't see the problem that you are trying to fix. YOu don't need an xorg.conf to boot
[09:35] <histo> DrGrov: you'd have to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:36] <DrGrov> histo: But apparently I need since I can not get my monitor to 1920x1080 with the nouveau driver. I can only get it to that with the nvidia-current driver.'
[09:36] <DrGrov> histo: I have checked the Xorg.0.log and apparently the nouveau driver only supports a maximum of 1360x768.
[09:37] <DrGrov> histo: I have had nVidia issues showing up on Xorg.0.log that segfaults and causes me to jump into the login screen. Happens when I use Chromium, Chrome or Firefox with Flash.
[09:37] <beck_> hello
[09:38] <histo> DrGrov: is there a reason you don't want to use nvidia-current?  are you just trying to stay opensource?
[09:38] <DrGrov> histo: There is a reason. The Chromium/Chrome/Firefox + Flash issue I have with my nVidia GTS 250. It segfaults and I can not work at all while having this problem. But my monitor can not go to 1920x1080 with the nouveau driver.
[09:40] <histo> DrGrov: perhaps askthe nouveau peeps
[09:40] <beck_> I have a question about bonding that I could not find info on. Typical we use LACP/802.3ad however for a low budget solution we are stuck using layer 2 switch and active-backup. It seems to work ok until I drop a switch and it never recovers. I suspect I have something wrong with my configuration. Any ideas?
[09:41] <beck_> I was using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding as a reference and I'm running precise
[09:41] <DrGrov> histo: I can not get into the live CD of 11.04. IT just freezes up on me.
[09:41] <DrGrov> histo: I am screwed.
[09:42] <histo> DrGrov: did youg et the grub menu hitting the shift key?
[09:42] <DrGrov> histo: No, nothing.
[09:42] <histo> DrGrov: you have to repeatedly press it after the bios posts.
[09:42] <DrGrov> histo: Yes, that I did.
[09:42] <histo> DrGrov: once you get the menu boot into recovery mode and fix your machine. If not you have to use a live cd
[09:43] <DrGrov> histo: Okay, I am in through the live CD. The Try Ubuntu did not work so I closed it and now I am in.
[09:45] <DrGrov> histo: But I do not find my xorg.conf at all. Neither I have no idea how to fix GRUB:
[09:45] <histo> DrGrov: okay places > whatever do you see the local hard drive ??
[09:46] <histo> DrGrov: why do you think grub is damaged now?
[09:46] <DrGrov> histo: Yes, I see the 32GB local drive.
[09:46] <histo> DrGrov: click on that and fix your files
[09:46] <beck_> does anyone have an idea or can point me to some docs that are more complete?
[09:46] <histo> DrGrov: once you click on it... it will be mounted. You can find out where it's mounted by typing mount in a terminal.  If you sudo chroot that/mount/point  you can apt-get install etc...
[09:47] <histo> beck_: #hardware
[09:47] <beck_> histo, its not a hardware issue
[09:47] <beck_> its a ubuntu issue
[09:48] <histo> beck_: ahh im sorry just saw you asking about switch didn't read.
[09:48] <beck_> specifically around active-backup bonding :)
[09:48] <histo> beck_: what do you mean it doesn't recover?
[09:48] <beck_> it doesn't failover or recover once I bring the priary switch back online
[09:49] <beck_> s/priary/primary
[09:49] <histo> beck_: does it default to the primary switch if the secondary one fails?
[09:49] <DrGrov> histo: Probably got it now. Rebooting to confirm.
[09:49] <beck_> histo: I have not been able to get past the first failure scenario at this point
[09:50] <histo> beck_: what mode are you using?
[09:50] <beck_> histo: my config looks almost identicl to the link I posted but I'm using active-backup or mode 1
[09:50] <DrGrov> histo: Okay, I
[09:51] <histo> beck_: in active-backup only one slave is active
[09:51] <DrGrov> histo: Okay, I am in the GRUB boot menu now. Where do I start looking into drivers what might cause a problem? Xorg.0.log yes. But can I really be without a xorg.conf and still get out the right resolution without nvidia-current drivers?
[09:51] <histo> beck_: so on failure the other doesn't become active?
[09:52] <beck_> yes correct
[09:53] <histo> beck_: hrm... perhaps try in #ubuntu-server  It should jsut be working unless one of your configs for the slave is fat fingered
[09:53] <histo> beck_: sorry I can't help more I have to get some sleep.
[09:53] <beck_> histo: I suspect bond-slaves none is not the right setting
[09:53] <beck_> histo: thaks anyway
[09:56] <sheldor> whats the best way to *install* ubuntu to a flash drive? not just boot the installer from it
[09:56] <sheldor> like would i have to boot from another flash drive and install to the first one?
[09:56] <sheldor> or is there a better way
[09:57] <ajnr> Hi folks , how to open the wide screen console in ubuntu ?
[09:57] <sheldor> also why is the 32 bit version *recommended* ???
[09:57] <sheldor> is it recommended even for 64bit cpus?
[09:58] <rypervenche> Go with 64-bit if you've got 64-bit CPUs.
[09:58] <sheldor> rypervenche: then why do they still recommend 32bit? nobody even produces 32bit cpus anymore
[09:58] <histo> !install | sheldor
[09:58] <histo> gnight
[09:58] <sheldor> it doesnt make sense, it should be the other way around
[09:59] <histo> sheldor: They still produce 32bit cpus
[09:59] <sheldor> thanks histo let me check that
[09:59] <sheldor> histo: like 1% of all cpus
[09:59] <histo> sheldor: more than that. Take a look at most tablets
[09:59] <histo> sheldor: and netbooks etc.. intel atom based 32bit cpus in a lot of stuff. And ARM CPUs
[09:59] <sheldor> okay
[10:00] <sheldor> which release should i get for Intel 64?
[10:00] <histo> sheldor: also how much ram do you have?
[10:00] <sheldor> does it only support AMD?
[10:00] <sheldor> histo: 8
[10:00] <ajnr> Hi folks , how to open the wide screen console in ubuntu ?
[10:00] <sheldor> 8gigs
[10:00] <sheldor> i mean, does ubuntu only support AMDs?
[10:00] <sheldor> seems weird
[10:00] <histo> sheldor: no amd64 is 64bit... and btw 32bit cannot address more that 4gb of ram without PAE support. and even then it wouldn't use it as effieciently as 64bit. So run 64bit
[10:01] <sheldor> okay great histo
[10:01] <histo> sheldor: I wouldn't run 64bit on something like <2gb of RAM
[10:01] <sheldor> k
[10:01] <sheldor> thx
[10:01] <histo> sheldor: there are no more issues with 64bit like there were in the beginning
[10:01]  * histo needs sleep gnight
[10:02] <sheldor> night
[10:04] <SSGSCar> Any pro users out there?
[10:04] <aeon-ltd> SSGSCar: if you have a question ask it
[10:05] <SSGSCar> Bad python dependencies on ubuntu 10.04 x32 live installed from unetbootin
[10:05] <SSGSCar> Won't load the software center
[10:06] <SSGSCar> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:06] <SSGSCar>   File "/usr/bin/software-center", line 80, in <module>
[10:06] <SSGSCar>     app = SoftwareCenterApp(datadir, xapian_base_path)
[10:06] <SSGSCar>   File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/app.py", line 221, in __init__
[10:06] <SSGSCar>     self.config = get_config()
[10:06] <SSGSCar>   File "/usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/backend/config.py", line 43, in get_config
[10:06] <FloodBot1> SSGSCar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:12] <ajnr> any one knows ,how to wide the console screen , actually i am not able to see the all content in a window
[10:13] <nomada_> welcome everyone! and.. ubuntu is great! :D
[10:14] <catphish> i know i discussed this yesterday, but it's getting really tedious and would only take a couple of minutes for someone to fix: [Connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com (2a01:450:10:1::10)]
[10:15] <gry> ajnr: Resize the window?
[10:15] <nomada_> who is drinking yerba mate? :d
[10:16] <ajnr> gry, I got it by zooming ! esay one
[10:16] <izx> How to add a repostory to apt-cacher-ng server?
[10:16] <gry> nomada_: I used to for a few years. Mind this is a support channel though, the venting channel is #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[10:18] <beck_> its official, Linux distros do not know how to write documentation
[10:18] <beck_> *facepalm*
[10:18] <nomada_> 25 april should be ubuntu 13 final?
[10:19] <demondog66> Hello can i get some help
[10:21] <catphish> demondog66: only if you have a question to ask
[10:22] <demondog66> catphish i cant seem to get wine to install
[10:22] <Coffe> Hello, trying to get gnome 3 to group my xterm windows.. work when i start it localy, but if i starta it on a remote server   the grouping of applications stops working .  and when alt+tab it only displays xterm.. but in overview it displays names.
[10:22] <mradot> i'm trying the use wpa_supplicant but it won't seem to connect
[10:22] <mradot> it says it's getting disconnected
[10:24] <beck_> ok, this is a noob channel unfortunately
[10:24] <gry> !details | demonspork
[10:24] <beck_> peace out
[10:24] <gry> beck_: what's the problem?
[10:24] <catphish> demondog66: people will be able to assist you if you provide some information, such as what you have tried and what errors you are seeing
[10:25] <catphish> oh, he left
[10:26] <beck_> gry: active-backup bonding issues with precise server, it does failover or recover. LACP works fine. I think its a config issue but could be a bug too. Most people are not that chea and buy layer3 switches
[10:27] <foobArrr> I installed updates a few minutes ago, now flash videos don't work anymore, I get "A plugin is needed to display this content.". iirc one of the updates was flash-related. what now?
[10:27] <beck_> I have a customer wanting to use layer2 switches and them nor I can get it working right
[10:27] <gry> try asking #ubuntu-server
[10:27] <beck_> yea, yea everybody is asleep there
[10:27] <nomada_> does anyone knows if using SSD disk (ex.Kingstone HyperX 128GB) on ubuntu is optimized way? I mean, in short: Is Ubuntu ready to use SSD disks?
[10:27] <gry> foobArrr: in what browser?
[10:28] <foobArrr> gry: firefox and chromium
[10:31] <foobArrr> gry: never mind. purging and reinstalling flashplugin-installer fixed it
[10:33] <snuggl> the dash/launcher/lense thing is REALLY slow on my laptop, is there something i can do about that?
[10:33] <snuggl> like 3-4 fps in the animation
[10:34] <snuggl> or is it just a beta thing maybe
[10:40] <paul__> hey there! i have a really strange matter with my ext4 filesystem: i mounted a samba share to /mnt/sharename; everything worked fine but this day suddenly the mount didnt work and there was no owner related to folder; ls -al shows d?????? ? ?; anybody could give me some advice! big thx in advance
[10:44] <hachre> where in /proc or /sys is the hook to see if I'm running on battery power
[10:44] <arkie> Hey guys, I need some help installing ubuntu on my laptop.
[10:45] <blank0o0o0o> hola
[10:45] <blank0o0o0o> hello
[10:45] <arkie> I have a Windows 7 laptop. I'm wanting to put ubuntu on it but I'm not sure of a few things. I've decided I don't want to dual boot and would rather just run ubuntu and not have Windows. How should I go about completely wiping the HDD ready for ubuntu installation? Where can I find a good guide to follow?
[10:45] <lautan> The installation disc
[10:45] <blank0o0o0o> yes arkie
[10:46] <arkie> What happens if I want to get Windows 7 back one day? Do I just use the serial under my laptop and then boot from a USB or something?
[10:46] <blank0o0o0o> wait
[10:46] <hachre> arkie: you can tell it that you wanna wipe during installation of ubuntu
[10:46] <blank0o0o0o> yep
[10:46] <blank0o0o0o> clean install
[10:46] <arkie> Also, what about things like power saving mode on my laptop
[10:46] <arkie> I will lose this ability correct?
[10:46] <lautan> Yes
[10:46] <hachre> arkie: and yea you'll need to boot from a windows cd and then use that key
[10:46] <snuggl> arkie: either save it on the disk by shrink the partition, or re-install windows later
[10:46] <hachre> arkie: some, not all
[10:46] <blank0o0o0o> who uses hyper v
[10:47] <snuggl> arkie: and yes you can install windows from usb too
[10:47] <arkie> hachre, so I will have worse battery life with ubuntu?
[10:47] <blank0o0o0o> shouldnt
[10:47] <lautan> Arkie, you can change your settings to save power in Ubuntu
[10:48] <blank0o0o0o> anyone a linux admin
[10:48] <hachre> arkie: most likely at least a little bit yes, but that degree varies greatly depending on what laptop it is, how well it is supported etc, hard to tell without just trying it out
[10:48] <arkie> okay so the installation will allow me to completely wipe the HDD
[10:48] <hachre> arkie: ya
[10:48] <arkie> I don't need to make any changes to bios settings etc..?
[10:48] <lautan> No
[10:48]  * blank0o0o0o stands up and asks a simple question
[10:49] <blank0o0o0o> anyone a  linux admin?
[10:49] <hachre> arkie: if you have a setting there called IDE mode or SATA mode or something see that you put it to AHCI, thats also better for windows
[10:49] <lautan> If you only have one OS on one bootable partition, no
[10:49] <hachre> arkie: but it makes your current windows unbootable when you switch it
[10:49] <blank0o0o0o> u guys are helpfull i guess u get what u pay for
[10:49] <nibbler_> !ask blank0o0o0o
[10:50] <blank0o0o0o> ANYONE a linux admin
[10:50] <arkie> hachre, im just going to completely remove windows
[10:50] <arkie> dont need it
[10:50] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: no, no one
[10:50] <arkie> which version of ubuntu do you recommend?
[10:50] <arkie> LTS version?
[10:50] <blank0o0o0o> !test
[10:50] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: just ask your question, and see if anyone can help you. "is anyone a linux admin" is not a problem anyone could be helping
[10:50] <nibbler_> !details | blank0o0o0o
[10:50] <blank0o0o0o> lol
[10:51] <hachre> arkie: for a desktop the newest one
[10:51] <blank0o0o0o> i want someone to feed me linux commands that are helpful for a admin
[10:51] <hachre> arkie: 12.10 aka quantal, in two weeks however the next one comes out 13.04 aka raring
[10:51] <michaeld3marais> arkie: if you are just using it on your personal computer, get the newest release.
[10:51] <arkie> okay
[10:51] <blank0o0o0o> !rules
[10:51] <arkie> also
[10:52] <arkie> will it remove the recovery partition for windows on my laptop?
[10:52] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: http://www.commandlinefu.com/ is good for inspiration
[10:52] <hachre> arkie: yes
[10:52] <arkie> as i obviously wont need that anymore either
[10:52] <arkie> cool
[10:52] <arkie> not sure if i should get 32 or 64 bit either..
[10:52] <hachre> arkie: what CPU do you have?
[10:52] <blank0o0o0o> ty
[10:52] <blank0o0o0o> nibbler_:
[10:53] <hachre> arkie: need just the model name, not the ghz or anything
[10:53] <arkie> hachre, Intel Core 2 Duo SU7300 1.3GHz Processor
[10:54] <hachre> arkie: then I'd get 64
[10:54] <blank0o0o0o> better question is how much ram do u have
[10:54] <santgennaro> !list
[10:54] <blank0o0o0o> over 4 gig go with 64 under go with 1386
[10:55] <arkie> 4GB DDR3 1066MHz Memor
[10:55] <blank0o0o0o> then go with 32bit
[10:55] <hachre> if you have a 64 bit cpu you should get a 64 bit os, ram doesnt matter
[10:56] <blank0o0o0o> cough bs
[10:56] <blank0o0o0o> yes it does
[10:56] <lautan> blank0o0o0o: You're still wrong
[10:56] <blank0o0o0o> how
[10:56] <blank0o0o0o> your wrong
[10:56] <arkie> Now I don't know who to believe!
[10:57] <blank0o0o0o> lol
[10:57] <arkie> :<~
[10:57] <blank0o0o0o> look it up
[10:57] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: 64bit cpu operations can be way faster (might also be slightly slower)... and about memory, since 1954 (about) we do have pae which does not limit ram at 4gb for 32bit cpu
[10:57] <blank0o0o0o> pae?
[10:57] <nibbler_> arkie: its not the most important choice to make, but you are on the safe side with 64bit
[10:58] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: physical address extesion (or such), some extra lanes for addressing memory were added way before 64bit cpus hit the market
[10:58] <somsip> arkie: I support nibbler_ here. blank0o0o0o seems to be trolling
[10:58] <blank0o0o0o> im no troll fool
[10:59] <nibbler_> blank0o0o0o: so all systems today can adress 48bit of ram, making memory limits like in windows systems a product of marketing
[10:59] <blank0o0o0o> u dork
[10:59] <nibbler_> !language blank0o0o0o
[10:59] <somsip> blank0o0o0o: you don't know what pae is. You are not showing any depth of knowledge. Just calling bs at people who are helping. And now name calling. You read like a troll unless you up your game
[10:59] <arkie> ok
[10:59] <arkie> so i will go with 64 bit
[10:59] <blank0o0o0o> i didnt know that was a cuss word
[10:59] <arkie> thanks guys!
[11:00] <arkie> how can i install it on my laptop? has to be usb as my laptop has no dvd drive?
[11:00] <hachre> np arkie :)
[11:00] <arkie> can i somehow install it from my NAS?
[11:00] <blank0o0o0o> somsip i got a question for you
[11:00] <hachre> arkie: you can make a usb stick and boot from that
[11:00] <somsip> blank0o0o0o: if it's a support question, ask the channel.
[11:01] <hachre> arkie: if you have one
[11:01] <hachre> arkie: or you can use a usb dvd drive
[11:01] <kIoeri> i used to date a guy named Ubuntu
[11:01] <kIoeri> he used to "play the bongos" on my ass
[11:01] <blank0o0o0o> how many sips does it take to take some sips from somsips
[11:02] <arkie> can i use an external hdd hachre ?
[11:02] <arkie> i only have 1 usb stick and its on the back of my dune and is used as system storage
[11:03] <lautan> You can, arkie, I installed Ubuntu using one
[11:04] <arkie> for a laptop you just download the normal desktop distro correct lautan ?
[11:04] <lautan> Yes
[11:05] <hachre> arkie: I don't know how to install from hdd unless you can wipe it completely but it's possible
[11:05] <blank0o0o0o> did u say 1954?.3
[11:05] <lautan> Partitioning it also makes it possible
[11:06] <blank0o0o0o>     cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor | wc -l
[11:07] <hachre> whoops
[11:07] <rypervenche> cat grep...
[11:07] <blank0o0o0o> whoops what
[11:07] <rypervenche> grep -c processor /proc/cpuinfo
[11:08] <blank0o0o0o> whats the -c do
[11:08] <rypervenche> man grep will tell you that it counts.
[11:08] <hachre> I left by accident ;D
[11:08] <blank0o0o0o> o
[11:09] <sheldor> guys whats the recommended way to create a bootable persistent usb flash drive installation with a tmpfs in RAM for /tmp to protect against flash drive wear?
[11:09] <blank0o0o0o> !rules
[11:09] <arkie> also
[11:09] <arkie> is it possible to have truecrypt on ubuntu?
[11:10] <arkie> and can i truecrypt the entire drive?
[11:10] <arkie> the laptop is always at uni and stuff like that so i dont want my data easily accessible
[11:10] <hachre> arkie: there is truecrypt but there are also other solutions and if you just want encryption that is supported and the setup will ask you for that
[11:10] <sheldor> or more specifically does the "live usb creator" on the install cd create a tmpfs in RAM for /tmp to protect against flash drive wear?
[11:10] <arkie> hachre, i hear truecrypt is pretty much the best
[11:10] <blank0o0o0o> i didnt know what pae means im gonna off myself pew pew
[11:10] <sheldor> or the "usb startup disk creator" tool
[11:10] <blank0o0o0o> lol
[11:10] <sheldor> guise
[11:10] <arkie> ive been using it for a while on my laptop right now
[11:10] <sheldor> hlp
[11:11] <rypervenche> arkie: I prefer LUKS.
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:11] <blank0o0o0o> hey BluesKaj
[11:12] <BluesKaj> hi blank0o0o0o
[11:12] <arkie> is LUKS what comes with the ubuntu setup rypervenche ?
[11:12] <rypervenche> It is.
[11:13] <blank0o0o0o> somsips of beer u here?
[11:14] <blank0o0o0o> what are 5 useful commands
[11:14] <arkie> what makes it better than truecrypt? any specific features rypervenche ?
[11:15] <blank0o0o0o> u guys dont know 5 commands?
[11:16] <bazhang> !ot | blank0o0o0o
[11:16] <blank0o0o0o> k ty
[11:18] <blank0o0o0o> linux= open source = free knowledge ?
[11:19] <bazhang> blank0o0o0o, this is not the random questions channel.
[11:20] <bazhang> blank0o0o0o, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <WeThePeople> how to truncate a md5 to 32bit string
[11:20] <somsip> WeThePeople: what language?
[11:20] <WeThePeople> somsip, its to calculate the ip address
[11:21] <pablo> has anyone upgraded couchdb to 1.3.0 via apt-get?
[11:21] <WeThePeople> md5 to ip address
[11:21] <blank0o0o0o> bazhang:  u admin
[11:21] <bazhang> blank0o0o0o, this is not the place. please stop
[11:21] <blank0o0o0o> no ones talking in off topic
[11:21] <somsip> WeThePeople: you lost me there. Not sure what your aim is
[11:22] <WeThePeople> what language is a ip address
[11:22] <WeThePeople> somsip. ^^
[11:22] <somsip> WeThePeople: I mean, what programming language do you want to do the conversion in
[11:23] <WeThePeople> somsip, forget it
[11:24] <blank0o0o0o> i dont want a ban
[11:24] <blank0o0o0o> im sorry
[11:24] <blank0o0o0o> ill come back when i have some good questions
[11:24] <blank0o0o0o> in the mean time goodbye
[11:26] <aguitel> what about ubuntu servers ?
[11:26] <hachre> what about them?
[11:26] <aguitel> are down ?
[11:26] <hachre> ubuntu.com is up for me
[11:26] <varikonniemi> congratulations ubuntu. I yesterday tested the daily build, and what i saw was what i would have approved as version 1 of unity
[11:26] <varikonniemi> GJ
[11:27] <somsip> aguitel: use this: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[11:27] <varikonniemi> 12.10 got me discouraged with ubuntu, but it seems i will be back :)
[11:27] <hachre> yea, I'm also very happy with 13.04
[11:28] <rymate1234> 13.04 is best Ubuntu
[11:28] <varikonniemi> 12.10 and 11.10 have been horrible
[11:29] <CorySimmons> On Ubuntu Server, how do I scroll up to see all the text that flies by?
[11:29] <varikonniemi> page up?
[11:29] <hachre> I haven't been here to witness that... I left Ubuntu at 5.x and just returned now :)
[11:29] <CorySimmons> Is there a flag I can pass to make things scrollable?
[11:29] <somsip> CorySimmons: pipe the command to less, eg: ls -la | less
[11:29] <varikonniemi> else pipe through less or more
[11:29] <CorySimmons> Page Up doesnt work
[11:29] <hachre> CorySimmons: are you in screen?
[11:29] <CorySimmons> It's a vbox
[11:29] <hachre> try shift page up
[11:30] <CorySimmons> Ah! Works
[11:30] <CorySimmons> Thanks hachre
[11:30] <hachre> np
[11:30] <rymate1234> Only thing I don't like about Ubuntu is the ATI legacy drivers don't work
[11:30] <rymate1234> They're not updated for the kernel / Xorg on 13.04
[11:30] <rymate1234> so my games run like crap
[11:30] <varikonniemi> hachre, ubuntu 11.04 unity was what got me interested in linux
[11:30] <tush> where do i find creative elite pro drivers for ubuntu 12.04
[11:30] <varikonniemi> funny to find out it was one of the biggest letdowns in linux world at the time
[11:32] <rymate1234> I never bothered with 11.04
[11:34] <hachre> well I like that Canonical  are doing some crazy pushes
[11:34] <rymate1234> Does anyone know a way to improve Ubuntu gaming performance on the open source ati drivers
[11:34] <hachre> rymate1234: no idea, I have a separate windows pc for gaming
[11:35] <rymate1234> I usually use a seperate windows partition for games
[11:35] <rymate1234> however for some reason my laptop runs horribly on windows
[11:36] <rymate1234> it freezes regularly, even on a clean installation
[11:36] <hachre> even with ati drivers installed?
[11:37] <rymate1234> hachre, on windows or linux
[11:38] <jinja> rymate1234, is it a new laptop? i have an old IBM Thinkpad and it freezes too sometimes. a technician told me its the old hard disks that doesnt spin right..
[11:38] <hachre> rymate1234: I mean, the freezing windows, does that happen even with ati drivers installed
[11:38] <rymate1234> jinja, could be that
[11:38] <rymate1234> hachre, yes
[11:38] <hachre> yea I was thinking hard drive too
[11:38] <hachre> but if it works on ubuntu...
[11:38] <rymate1234> I might just save up for a new HDD
[11:38] <rymate1234> I need a bigger one anyway XD
[11:39] <rymate1234> hachre, the HDD doesn't seem to spin right in windows.
[11:41] <catphish> if i install ubuntu onto USB sticks, is there anything in particular that should be done to minimize writes
[11:41] <rymate1234> catphish, don't install much?
[11:41] <manata> hello everyone, I am trying to compile bluez 5, but I am getting this : "sytemd system unit dir... configure: error: systemd system unit directory is required" what am I missing? Thx
[11:42] <catphish> rymate1234: i've installed a default 12.04 server
[11:45] <iceroot> manata: ubuntu is not using "systemd", that is part of debian
[11:46] <manata> thanks for the prompt replay iceroot, then is it possible to compile bluez on ubuntu? (I guess it does, but I don't know how)
[11:48] <hachre> manata: bluez is included with ubuntu
[11:48] <hachre> mantana: but you probably need patches
[11:48] <hachre> manata*
[11:49] <iceroot> manata: bluez is in the repos, why need to compile it yourself?
[11:49] <iceroot> !info bluez
[11:49] <manata> hm, I just upgrade the 12.04
[11:49] <manata> so it is not necessary to install bluez from source?
[11:50] <iceroot> manata: no
[11:50] <iceroot> manata: ubuntu is a distro where the software is precompiled in the repos and you can install the binary versions with the software-center or apt-get
[11:50] <iceroot> !repos | manata
[11:50] <manata> thanks everyone
[11:50] <manata> I will check around
[11:50] <iceroot> manata: sudo apt-get install bluez   is the command to install the package "bluez"
[11:51] <CorySimmons> How do I show hidden files in ls?
[11:52] <iceroot> CorySimmons: ls -all
[11:52] <manata> is it necessary to add some special ppa iceroot? just to keep it up-to date
[11:52] <CorySimmons> iceroot: Thanks. It seems ls -al (note the missing L) does the same
[11:53] <iceroot> manata: if you want major updates, yes. normally the packages for a ubuntu release like 12.04 will only get security updates but no new features (there are some exceptions like firefox, chromium)
[11:53] <iceroot> CorySimmons: its -a which is doing the trick
[11:53] <iceroot> CorySimmons: see man ls
[11:53] <iceroot>        -a, --all
[11:53] <iceroot>               do not ignore entries starting with
[11:53] <iceroot> .
[11:56] <sheldor> when i install ubuntu to a flash drive using UNetbootin and then install new drivers etc, will they persist?
[11:56] <sheldor> or will only user data persist?
[11:57] <CorySimmons> iceroot: Thanks man :)
[11:57] <James_m> Hi
[11:59] <James_m> My system told me that security updates are available. I wanted to install them, but then the message appeared that it was impossible to install them for some reasons. Then I chose to try installation again and an application called "pkexec" has been run in a console. Is it normal?
[12:00] <imark> James_m: which version are you running?
[12:00] <James_m> Ubuntu?
[12:01] <imark> James_m: yes which Ubuntu, 12.04, 12.10? Or don't you know
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> James_m  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:01] <James_m> 12.04.2
[12:02] <James_m> LTS
[12:03] <iceroot> sheldor: its a normal installation, so it will be persist
[12:03] <imark> James_m: okay try to do a full update using the terminal, it will give you a better idea of whats going wrong, if anything, use these commands in a terminal
[12:03] <imark> sudo apt-get update
[12:04] <imark> sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[12:05] <sheldor> iceroot: no its not a normal installation, it is a ramdisk that syncs changes at startup
[12:07] <starbuck> i'm on 12.10 with a mobile nvidia graphics card (GeForce 9650M GT). which nvidai driver should i install?
[12:07] <James_m> "The system has not been able to download (...) 404 NOT FOUND" at the end of the output
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> starbuck  nvidia-current ?
[12:08] <Shash> i am new to ubuntu, i found on internet that i can customize  my ubuntu 12.10 using my unity, i tried installing my unity from synaptic and terminal, but it says you have held broken packages. how to fix it?
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> Shash  first get familiar with ubuntu, then try changing and modifyibg things
[12:08] <jinja> Shash, maybe you should recheck your sources list
[12:09] <jinja> Shash, maybe you should recheck your sources list, update and then reinstall
[12:09] <CorySimmons> Whats the command line tool to search my entire system for a file or folder?
[12:09] <CorySimmons> Hidden or not
[12:09] <jrib> CorySimmons: find or locate
[12:09] <Shash> how to check source list?
[12:09] <jrib> Shash: why?
[12:10] <James_m> What is the difference between dselect-upgrade and normal upgrade as a parameter to apt-get? I don't have dselect installed, wouldn't be it safer to go with just upgrade option?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Shash  start with the basics, what you want is not basic
[12:10] <Niloc> Is it possible to install a software package on one laptop and then transfer installation files to another laptop so as to be able install there?
[12:10] <jinja> Shash, in a terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:10] <BlackThorneDK> Niloc: yes, you just transfer the .deb packages to the other machine
[12:12] <Niloc> BlackThorneDK - Where can I find these deb packages?
[12:12] <starbuck> MonkeyDust: when i go to system Settings -> software sources -> additional drivers i have a few nvidia drivers to choose from, which one is the best (performance and stability)
[12:12] <Shash> jinja: done, now what do i have to  edit in that file
[12:12] <shcherbak> Niloc: if version and architecture are same, you can also use one machine to mirror own updates
[12:13] <Niloc> Yes both laptops have Ubuntu 12.10 installed
[12:13] <shcherbak> Niloc: 32 bit?
[12:13] <Niloc> Yes 32 bit
[12:13] <BlackThorneDK> all packages are stored in .deb form in /var/cache/apt/archives when you install them
[12:13] <jinja> Shash, have you mofidied this file before?
[12:14] <BlackThorneDK> unless you have purged this dir somehow of course
[12:14] <Niloc> Thanx for advice, I'll need to go readup about the suggestions.
[12:14] <Shash> jinja: earlier i serched a bit on internet and found a solution, it suggested to uncomment some lines from that file. but all lines were already uncommented from that file.
[12:15] <shcherbak> Niloc: locate *.deb | less (to see all of them)
[12:16] <Niloc> Ok thanks. Cheers
[12:16] <BlackThorneDK> if you transfer a package, you can eighter install it, by using 'dpkg -i <.deb>' or just open it in aptitude
[12:16] <jinja> Shash, yeah... its likely that that was the reason why you get broken packages. i think you should rebuild the whole thing all over again, update and install.
[12:17] <Shash> jinja: earlier i serched a bit on internet and found a solution, it suggested to uncomment some lines from that file. but all lines were already uncommented from that file.
[12:17] <jinja> Shash, here is a copy of the sources list: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1981513.
[12:18] <Shash> jinja:ok, so how to rebuild that file?
[12:20] <jinja> Shash, copy the sources list posted by yrohinkumar. its the text with all the #deb
[12:22] <jinja> Shash, copy it to the sources list you opend earlier. delete the original files and replace it with yrohinkumar's
[12:25] <James_m> OK, so Ubuntu upgrade has done nothing.
[12:25] <arkie> when installing ubuntu from an external HDD, can the HDD have other content on it?
[12:25] <k1l_> James_m: what is you problem?
[12:25] <k1l_> *your
[12:26] <k1l_> arkie: kan you rephrase?
[12:26] <k1l_> *can
[12:26] <fidel> hi - using 12.04 here - docky crashes each time i do run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. This seems to be a problem reported by many ppl - but so far i havent found a fix. Any info if 12.04 is supposed to get a fixed version at all?
[12:26] <ctfTijG> arkie: no, you need to have an unused partition
[12:26] <k1l_> arkie: which hdd should have other content and what contenc you mean?
[12:26] <iceroot> arkie: sure, you just need unused space on the hdd, which will be transformed into partitons
[12:27] <arkie> im happy to wipe my laptop when installing ubuntu
[12:27] <James_m> k1l_: Ubuntu had earlier told me that there are upgrades available, I chose to install them and it complained that installation was not possible, then I tried to upgrade system from command line and it returned message that there are no upgrades by now
[12:27] <iceroot> arkie: unused space = not part of a partition now
[12:27] <quaisi> ls
[12:27] <arkie> it just doesnt have a dvd drive and i dont have a usb handy but i do have an external hdd but it has other files on it
[12:27] <arkie> i just wanted to know if the external hdd with other files on it can be used to boot the ubuntu installation on my laptop
[12:27] <k1l_> James_m: can you pastebin a "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[12:31] <James_m> where can I see list of software sources?
[12:32] <k1l_> James_m: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:33] <k1l_> James_m: and the PPAs in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:34] <James_m> k1l_: and standard update manager simply checks into the contents of *list files?
[12:35] <k1l_> James_m: all sources and PPAs
[12:35] <k1l_> same as apt-get
[12:36] <gustav__> Flash so damn slow.
[12:36] <gustav__> Like a 1996 Psion Revo.
[12:36] <LjL> nothing wrong with Psion Revos!
[12:36] <gustav__> No, but they don't play Flash fast.
[12:36] <LjL> fair enough :)
[12:38] <haled> sudo apt-get upgrade tells me that some of the packages have been kept back (the kernel and its derivatives) but the GUI updater updates those as well. Does that make sense?
[12:38] <James_m> k1l_: ok, thanks
[12:39] <jrib> haled: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:39] <jrib> !dist-
[12:39] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | haled
[12:40] <haled> so dist-upgrade is the same as using the GUI?
[12:40] <jrib> haled: should be; yes
[12:41] <voldyman> guys i am trying to build an example from http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/application-indicators/
[12:41] <voldyman> vala version. but get an error error: Package `appindicator3-0.1' not found in specified Vala API directories or GObject-Introspection GIR directories
[12:42] <voldyman> the python version works fine though
[12:42] <haled> I've had occurrences where dist-upgrade broke display adapter compatibility. If the GUI is the same as it then this is a really wrong UI. Often the user wouldn't want to hassle with drivers for a newer kernel (which doesn't really help him in any way)
[12:43] <James_m> k1l_: I can't paste the output of commands you mentioned because there is a lot of it, and I've to go out of the door, but something's wrong, the system lies about when the last checking of updates was performed
[12:43] <Niloc> Any Solutions for communication with Garmin 405
[12:48] <beliveyourdream> hey guys ... is there a way to setup independent app audio volume ?
[12:50] <killer> hey
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> beliveyourdream  is that a program name?
[12:50] <killer> can anyone help me on this "http://pastebin.com/yAf2czi7"
[12:51] <Niloc> I'm looking for a solution for communication with Garmin 405 device using Ubuntu 12.10
[12:53] <bbrelin> Hello all...
[12:54] <bbrelin> Any support people on?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> bbrelin  this is the support channel
[12:54] <beliveyourdream> MonkeyDust:  no ... i want that for example .. skype have a different output volume than my audio player
[12:54] <bbrelin> okay...
[12:54] <bbrelin> So, I have a quick question...
[12:55] <killer> sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[12:55] <bbrelin> I've set up a Xen guest VM using xen-tools create and then I ran xm create <configfile> to create the VM so that it can be seen via xm list
[12:55] <killer> when i do above it says in error that "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[12:55] <killer> ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-3.8.5-030805-generic is not spportedError
[12:56] <bbrelin> When I run xm console <domain>, it throws me into the text graphics Ubuntu installation screens.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> bbrelin  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> killer: then you are using a 3rd party kernel
[12:56] <bbrelin> Well, the problem is an Ubuntu install question, not a server question.
[12:56] <bbrelin> so I figured that I'd start here.
[12:56] <killer> it is from kernel.ubuntu.com
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> bbrelin  i'm asking, because Xen is server technology
[12:56] <bbrelin> Anyway, I can't figure out how to change the mirror URL in the install.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> killer: its not from the official repos, so its 3rd party
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> killer: we can only support kernels from the official repos
[12:57] <bbrelin> It asks me for the country, and then automatically fills it in like: ie.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic quantal
[12:57] <killer> ActionParsnip: well i needed something that was not supported in 3.2 kernel
[12:57] <bbrelin> Unfortunately, this URL is invalid and the installation fails complaining that it can't find the URL.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> killer: so try 3.5.0.27 and se if it works there
[12:57] <killer> ActionParsnip: IN PRECISE?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> killer: then I suggest you upgrade to Quantal, or report a bug
[12:58] <bbrelin> I can't actually change the value in the field to point it to a correct URL...
[12:58] <bbrelin> How do I do this?
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> bbrelin  put all that in one line and repeat it every 10 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[12:58] <bbrelin> okay.
[12:59] <bbrelin> Is there a more suitable forum for this question?
[12:59] <Pici> bbrelin: but ie.archive.ubuntu.com is a valid url.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> killer: the guys in #linux may help
[12:59] <bbrelin> Pici:  I want to change it to ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/ubuntu/
[13:03] <Pici> bbrelin: but ie.archive.ubuntu.com points to ftp.heanet.ie
[13:04] <TViYH> hello, i have to install ubuntu on a laptop which only has wireless access. the issue is that after authenticating with the access point, i have to login to the domain using a web interface. how can i do this with the ubuntu installer?
[13:06] <haled> TViYH, choose try ubuntu without installing at bootup. Then choose install from the desktop environment and you could also open a browser
[13:10] <NARMYNNA> http://xgermanamateur.blogspot.com/2013/04/hot-photo-collection.html
[13:11] <cfhowlett> spam and ran ... typical
[13:11] <DJones> cfhowlett: spam & klined
[13:11] <snuggl> can i turn off the animation on the lens/dash somehow?
[13:11] <snuggl> its really really slow
[13:12] <snuggl> in effect its just a 2s delay then it appears
[13:12] <barnex> snuggl: don't know about that, but have you considered some other WM, maybe more lightweight?
[13:12] <snuggl> barnex: nope
[13:12] <snuggl> my other animations run fine
[13:12] <gustav__> Why is Firefox accessing my mnt-points when I'm not?
[13:12] <snuggl> my own GL code runs 50+ fps
[13:13] <zamba> what has happened to .gvfs?
[13:14] <zamba> i've used this to be able to get a terminal for manipulating files in a remote file system
[13:14] <zamba> now i have it mounted, but it's not available there
[13:16] <t3hb055nueb> Hi, with Brasero I get this. Please install the following manually and try again:
[13:16] <t3hb055nueb> dvdauthor (application).
[13:17] <rymate1234> how do I install an msi file in wine
[13:18] <snuggl> hm, seems the blur shader is the thing that makes it slow down
[13:18] <Pici> snuggl: Are you on 13.04?
[13:19] <snuggl> yes
[13:19] <amal> rymate1234: wine msiexec /i filename.msi
[13:19] <rymate1234> thanks
[13:19] <Pici> snuggl: Okay 1) support is in #ubuntu+1 for unreleased versions of Ubuntu 2) I saw a mention of this somewhere, you might want to check the most recent beta's release notes.
[13:20] <snuggl> ah
[13:21] <t3hb055nueb> Can anyone help me, I am trying to install the 'dvdauthor' manualy.
[13:21] <snuggl> ty!
[13:22] <cfhowlett> t3hb055nueb, sudo apt-get install dvdauthor
[13:22] <Coveiro> has anyone installed google test c++ framework on ubuntu?
[13:22] <DrGrov> Still having my display issue, stuck at 1360x768 even without a xorg.conf. Anyone to help with EDID and such stuff? My monitor should and can handle 1920x1080. It handles that with nvidia-current but not now with nouveau. Here is my Xorg.0.log which is fresh. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695265/
[13:22] <amal> t3hb055nueb: where are you stuck at?
[13:23] <t3hb055nueb> brasero. All required applications and libraries are not installed. Please install the following manually and try again:
[13:23] <t3hb055nueb> dvdauthor (application). .......... I am learning how to burn dvd. Music and Movies. Newbie I am.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: if you have lots of clips and want to make a DVD of them, I can recommend devede
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: it will spit out a DVD ISO which you can burn using any burning application
[13:25] <t3hb055nueb> how about k3b?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: sure
[13:25] <kohvihoor> t3hb055nueb: how are you installing dvdauthor?
[13:25] <t3hb055nueb> ActionParsnip: Thanks bud.
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: if your deskto pis GTK based then you will haul in a lot or Qt packages as deps
[13:25] <t3hb055nueb> I am removing brasero actually...
[13:26] <t3hb055nueb> using ubuntu 12.04, gtk based?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> i've never had success with Brasero, I always use xfburn
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: if you are using Gnome desktop then yes
[13:26] <t3hb055nueb> then you will haul in a lot or Qt packages as deps ???
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: yes, as K3b uses KDE and Qt stuff which you don't have installed right now
[13:27] <Coveiro> hello guys
[13:28] <t3hb055nueb> Is there a good alternativve to k3b? For gnome?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> !burning
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> I like xfburn, its simple enough
[13:28] <t3hb055nueb> xfburn, works on gnome then?
[13:29] <t3hb055nueb> Last question I think, if I install k3b on my system now. Will I have to install more things? What are the negative points of that?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: sure, they all will work
[13:29] <trapni> Hey. by trying to install NVIDIA drivers, my system didn't run (unity) so I uninstalled them, and now Unity isn't working anymore, because it can't load GLX (also no /usr/lib/libGL.so.* symlinks were present) - is there a way to just re-install xorg's Mesa OpenGL packages? which one should I re-install and how ?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: the package system will install what is needed, it depends if space is a luxury
[13:30] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Hi there. You helped me with my nVidia stuff earlier a while back.
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> trapni: which release are you using?
[13:30] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm replacing my 32bit ubuntu installation with a 64bit installation... I have / /boot and /home on RAID -1 arrays (seperate partitions). During the install I got a message "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda Executing 'grub-install /dev/dsa' failed, this is a fatal error" What's the proper way to install grub on a RAID array again? thanks.
[13:30] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Now I might need some assistance again with Nouveau, EDID on or off and such. You probably are busy though.
[13:30] <t3hb055nueb> ActionParsnip: You pwn.
[13:31] <trapni> ActionParsnip, I just upgraded to 13.04 yesterday (though, tried nvidia binary driver just today)
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: been around a while, there are many better than I
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> trapni: then your support is in #ubuntu+1 til release
[13:31] <trapni> ActionParsnip, that's a channel name? with that +1 at the end? hehe
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> trapni: its for prerelease versions of ubuntu
[13:32] <t3hb055nueb> Can someone suggest a pro dvd/cd ripper?
[13:32] <phschwartz> I have 45 boxes that I am trying to manage in a loop doing software updates. There is an update to mysql that it is trying to install and fails as in a loop over ssh with -C there is no readline console to select if I want it to override /etc/mysql/my.cnf. Is there a way to automate the answer to this?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: cd ripping can be done with sound-juicer
[13:33] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: If you got time could you please look into my Xorg.0.log? The monitor can and should do 1920x1080 but can not with the nouveau driver. The reason I went for nouveau is that I got segfaults with nvidia-current that I saw in Xorg.0.log.old. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695265/
[13:33] <t3hb055nueb> cd ie music?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: my xorg skills are low, I could give you my xorg.conf and you can tweak it as you need
[13:33] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Those segfaults caused my browsers (Chromium/Firefox/Chrome) to just throw me back to the login screen.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: yes
[13:34] <t3hb055nueb> how about movies?
[13:34] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I got a xorg.conf already actually :) The backup that you helped with earlier.
[13:34] <trapni> ActionParsnip, i c
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: not something I do, I go and buy them, they are cheap
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: then I use an optical drive and play them
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: maybe others can advise
[13:35] <t3hb055nueb> Yea, me too. Copy right material laws state that you are allowed to have one copy of something you own and paid for.
[13:35] <trapni> but maybe you still know what I would have to do on a 12.10 version to ensure that Mesa GL is used, do you?
[13:35] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: The thing though is that the EDID is apparently just giving me 1360x768 when I should do 1920x1080 as I do with nvidia-current. Any ideas if EDID disabling would help?
[13:35] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Or a custom modeline? ;-)
[13:36] <tirengarfio_> I have firefox 10 installed, I have noticed that it doesn't take the same time to switch between tabs.. In what depends that?
[13:37] <tirengarfio_> I have bought a new pc ant for me it is as slow as the last one I had before
[13:37] <t3hb055nueb> ActionParsnip: I had some questions about writing a script to un-attended dl/install this next time I reformat..
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> tirengarfio_  with ubuntu?
[13:37] <tirengarfio_> One is 3,4 Ghz and the other was 2,1 Ghz
[13:37] <tirengarfio_> 12.10
[13:37] <tirengarfio_> I have xfce
[13:38] <mysticalzero> DrGrov: worth a try. ignore edid and set custom modes in xorg.conf
[13:39] <tirengarfio_> is maybe because the memory??
[13:39] <DrGrov> mysticalzero: Care to help out on how to actually do that? :) I am really not a mastermind on xorg.conf in these cases.
[13:40] <crazydiamond> Hi. How do I get PPA for this package? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1
[13:40] <t3hb055nueb> with k3b, how do I burn a video onto a dvd? imanewb
[13:40] <rymate1234> guys
[13:40] <rymate1234> help
[13:40] <rymate1234> my / partition just became a read-only file system
[13:40] <rymate1234> how do I fix
[13:41] <t3hb055nueb> Ok, I got it. ima idiot
[13:41] <DrGrov> mysticalzero: I found it here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1555760&highlight=edid+settings. Should also disable the metamodes line in my xorg.conf? Want a pastebin of my xorg.conf?
[13:42] <Eagleman> I have virtualized an ubuntu machine but i am not sure if the allocate memory option works, if i give the machine 4GB ram ( 8GB max ) it will use around 3 GB of ram, however if i do this for 2 GB ram ( 4 GB max ) it will only use 1500MB ram, it should over allocate to 3.5 GB if i am correct, do i need to install something on the server for this to happen?
[13:42] <genii-around> t3hb055nueb: File...New Project... New Video DVD Project  .... add the videos, save the project, burn
[13:42] <adamk> rymate1234: Check 'dmesg' first to see if there are any errors from the drive.  You can try mounting it as read-write with 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /' but make sure it's safe first.
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[13:43] <rymate1234> [ 7717.169079] EXT4-fs error (device sda5): ext4_remount:4625: Abort forced by user
[13:43] <rymate1234> [ 7736.611849] journal commit I/O error
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> rymate1234: then I'd boot to livecd and fsck it, doesn't sound healthy
[13:43] <rymate1234> oh crap
[13:44] <rymate1234> mount: cannot remount block device /dev/sda5 read-write, is write-protected
[13:44] <rymate1234> D:
[13:44] <rymate1234> well my /home appears to be fine
[13:44] <rymate1234> I'll reboot
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> genii-around: error
[13:44] <crazydiamond> Hi all How do I get PPA for this package? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.1
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> mkisofs
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> -----------------------
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> /usr/bin/genisoimage: No such file or directory. Failed to open VIDEO_TS.IFO
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> /usr/bin/genisoimage: Can't open VMG info for '/tmp/kde-t3hb055/k3bVideoDvd0/'.
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> /usr/bin/genisoimage: Unable to parse DVD-Video structures.
[13:44] <FloodBot1> t3hb055nueb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> /usr/bin/genisoimage: Could not find correct 'VIDEO_TS' directory.
[13:44] <t3hb055nueb> Possible reasons:
[13:45] <mysticalzero> DrGrov: Yea. A pastebin of that would be good. I take it that "xrandr -qv" doesn't show your desired resolution as well?
[13:45] <adamk> rymate1234: I hope you have backups :-)
[13:46] <genii-around> t3hb055nueb: That means your video is not currently an mp4
[13:46] <t3hb055nueb> what files extensions ?are best for burning as a dvd? mp4?
[13:47] <rymate1234> adamk: My /home is separate to /
[13:48] <adamk> It may be a different partition, but is it the same drive?
[13:48] <genii-around> t3hb055nueb: mpg, mp4   ... you can convert them with ffmpeg usually if they aren't
[13:48] <rymate1234> adamk: Yes
[13:48] <DrGrov> mysticalzero: Would it be ok with PM? I can not follow all this text.
[13:49] <rymate1234> Yay booted
[13:49] <rymate1234> !
[13:49] <adamk> rymate1234: So I still hope you have backups.  Keep an eye on that drive.
[13:49] <rymate1234> Apparently / is fixed
[13:49] <vitimiti> o/
[13:49] <t3hb055nueb> Thanks everyone. Was there something to download the videos on youtube btw?
[13:49] <rymate1234> adamk: I di
[13:49] <rymate1234> *do
[13:49] <cfhowlett> t3hb055nueb, lots of plugis will do that from FFox
[13:49] <jrib> t3hb055nueb: youtube-dl for example
[13:49] <t3hb055nueb> sudo apt-get youtube-dl?
[13:50] <jrib> t3hb055nueb: apt-get install, but sure
[13:50] <t3hb055nueb> Thanks: I'm logging this for future reference, heh
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: there are websites to pull down the audio from youtube pages if thats what you want
[13:54] <t3hb055nueb> jrib: how do I use youtube-dl?
[13:54] <t3hb055nueb> jrib: nm, gotta dl firefox.
[13:55] <arkie> can you use an external hdd to boot the ubuntu installation on a laptop?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> t3hb055nueb  in a terminal: youtube-dl [youtube url]
[13:55] <rking> What should I install so the 'mail' command works as I expect? (I can define that expectation if it's unclear)
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> t3hb055nueb  consider using clint
[13:55] <magesing> Hi, when I try to install grub (grub-install /dev/sda) I get the error:"Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."  I need a bootloader, how can I get passed this?
[13:56] <TViYH> arkie: talking to me?
[13:56] <arkie> whoever can help me TViYH
[13:56] <TViYH> o okay lol thought you were answering my question. but. yes, you can.
[13:57] <TViYH> arkie: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/05/23/install-ubuntu-11-04-on-external-hard-disk/
[13:58] <arkie> no
[13:58] <t3hb055nueb> [youtube] LXO-jKksQkM: Extracting video information
[13:58] <t3hb055nueb> ERROR: unable to download video
[13:58] <arkie> i dont want to install on the HDD
[13:58] <cfhowlett> 11.04 is end of life
[13:58] <arkie> i want to use the external HDD to install on my laptop
[13:58] <arkie> the site doesnt say if thats possible
[13:59] <wilee-nilee> magesing, From where are you running this grub-install command?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> arkie  what do you mean by 'installing a HDD'?
[14:00] <ritz> hi, how do I query for upstart jobs based on description ?
[14:00] <Quest> the top tells top - 09:42:23 up 2 days,  1:57,  1 user,  load average: 2.32, 1.44, 0.62     what is the percentage of total cpu used?
[14:00] <arkie> i have windows 7 on my laptop MonkeyDust
[14:00] <arkie> ive downloaded ubuntu and want to install it and wipe windows 7 (no dual boot)
[14:01] <arkie> i dont have a usb drive handy so im asking if i can use a external hdd to do this
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> arkie  a CD or DVD maybe?
[14:01] <arkie> MonkeyDust, no dvd drive on laptop
[14:01] <arkie> and i dont own an external drive
[14:02] <snuggl> arkie: well a external drive and an usb drive should be the same thing
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> arkie  is the external drive not USB?
[14:04] <arkie> whats better
[14:04] <arkie> truecrypt or using the in build encryption on ubuntu?
[14:06] <dr_willis> i saw a tool for android phones to let you boot a pc via the phone  from an iso file on the phone. no usb flash needed..
[14:07] <Kh3SolO> ezaykom :D
[14:08] <arkie> snuggl, MonkeyDust
[14:08] <arkie> when installing from a usb drive
[14:09] <arkie> does it need to be formatted?
[14:09] <arkie> i have a bunch of important documents etc on my usb storage device
[14:09] <iceroot> arkie: use the build in encryption
[14:09] <arkie> can i not format it, dump the installation on there and install ubuntu to my laptop and keep everything on the usb device safe?
[14:09] <Chosi> you could still partition it.
[14:09] <arkie> iceroot, truecrypt isn't as good on linux?
[14:09] <dr_willis> from? they are normally fat32 or fat16 drives
[14:10] <john_doe_jr> When you install software onto a server…where do you usually download all the source code (I have to compile from source)….in the temp directory?
[14:10] <snuggl> akke: no it needs to be an ubuntu image
[14:11] <snuggl> arkie: event
[14:11] <iceroot> arkie: luks is the default on ubuntu so i would suggest to use the default which is tested officially
[14:11] <snuggl> even*
[14:11] <jrib> john_doe_jr: what are you installing?
[14:11] <iceroot> john_doe_jr: normally noone compiling software by hand on a server
[14:11] <iceroot> john_doe_jr: you want software with update-support which is managed by the repos
[14:12] <john_doe_jr> jrib: ffmpeg
[14:12] <iceroot> john_doe_jr: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[14:12] <john_doe_jr> I'm following the instructions found @ the following link: https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[14:12] <iceroot> john_doe_jr: why compiling? its in the repos
[14:12] <jrib> john_doe_jr: is there a reason you don't use libav?  That's what ubuntu provides in the repositories
[14:13] <snuggl> john_doe_jr: thats if you want to compile it your self, you should have a separate reason to do that, if you dont have a reason, use the prebuilt in the repos
[14:13] <john_doe_jr> snuggl: why offer the option to compile then…I don't understand…I guess to have the most up to date software?
[14:13] <snuggl> use it as a rule of thumb that never build from source if you dont know *why* it needs to be compiled
[14:14] <snuggl> john_doe_jr: because sometimes you have to do it
[14:14] <john_doe_jr> snuggl: ok…for example?
[14:14] <snuggl> for example if you want a later version then available in repos, or apply patches etc.
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  use what's in the repos, that's the easiest thing to do, the lastest is not always the best
[14:14] <snuggl> change the code yourself
[14:14] <snuggl> etc etc
[14:14] <john_doe_jr> snuggl: I see…thanks I understand now
[14:15] <snuggl> as a rule of thumb, package maintainers are better then us users on picking stuff that works togheter
[14:15] <snuggl> so trust them with it
[14:15] <snuggl> or they should be at least =)
[14:15] <john_doe_jr> If you notice the ./configure command enables a lot of options…does the precompiled binary using sudo apt-get install ffmpeg automatically have those options enabled?
[14:16] <Ian_Corne> Greetings
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  sudo apt-get install ffmpeg, then: man ffmpeg
[14:16] <Ian_Corne> Any way to resize a live partition?
[14:17] <cool_boy> hay there !
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> Ian_Corne  gparted
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> that works on a live partition?
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> I need a serversided solution :)
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> so no gui apps
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> Ian_Corne  guess you mean resizing partitions when you're in a live session
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> yes
[14:17] <IdleOne> Ian_Corne: you can't resize a mounted partition
[14:17] <Ian_Corne> ok
[14:18] <cool_boy> I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my PC, but upper arrow key doesn't works on terminal
[14:18] <Ian_Corne> Boo
[14:18] <john_doe_jr> MonkeyDust: alight..I man ffmpeg and I don't see anything about the configuring options
[14:18] <Ian_Corne> My vps doesn't give me the option to choose my own partition table
[14:18] <cool_boy> If I type a command , I always need to retype it, Can't use upper arrow key's functionality
[14:18] <cool_boy> does someone have idea about it?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr  man shows the options
[14:18] <Pici> cool_boy: are you sure you're using bash?
[14:18] <Ian_Corne> cool_boy: if you prepend the command with a space, it'll not save it
[14:19] <cool_boy> Pici: what is bash?
[14:19] <Ian_Corne> are you copying commands from the web?
[14:19] <Pici> MonkeyDust: I think john_doe_jr wanted the ./configure options that were used to compile ffmpeg
[14:19] <IdleOne> Ian_Corne: sounds like you need to open a support ticket with the VPS
[14:19] <cool_boy> Ian_Corne: No
[14:19] <Ian_Corne> they don't support it IdleOne :)
[14:19] <Ian_Corne> I asked
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: sure, bash history rocks
[14:19] <Pici> cool_boy: what does echo $SHELL say?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: if you run:  exec bash     do you get the functionality?
[14:20] <cool_boy> Pici: nothing ,blank
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> cool_boy: how did you start your terminal?
[14:21] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: yes , it get if I do exec bash
[14:21] <cool_boy> Ian_Corne: ctrl + T
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: I have to do that on some solaris boxes I manage
[14:21] <Ian_Corne> normal standard 12.04 should give you bash when you open a terminal
[14:22] <snuggl> cool_boy: did you make the install?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: cool_boy run:    sudo cp /root/.profile ~/.profile; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile
[14:22] <Pici> ActionParsnip: whoa. if anything you should be copying /etc/skel/.profile
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Pici: either is fine
[14:23] <killer> hey
[14:23] <killer> is there  a way i can install kernel 3.6 in ubuntu 12.10 ....really i need it
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Pici: but yeah skel would be mildly better
[14:23] <cool_boy> before run bash it was just '$ ' sign ...after running command it is "openerp@openerpserver:~$"
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> killer  you'd need a ppa, but that's not supported here and you'd be on your o<
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> own*
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: copy a .profile file from /etc/skel and chown it to your user, should do it
[14:25] <killer> MonkeyDust: i can always uninstall the kernel if it does not work
[14:25] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: I ran this command sudo cp /root/.profile ~/.profile; sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.profile
[14:25] <cool_boy> system asked password
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: yes, type your user login password (you will get no feedback)
[14:25] <cool_boy> but after reopen terminal , I get on the same problem
[14:26] <cool_boy> i did not get any feedback
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: you won't.
[14:27] <cool_boy> then?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: do you need to run:  exec bash  again?
[14:27] <cool_boy> my problem is not solved
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> cool_boy:
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> run chsh /bin/bash
[14:27] <cool_boy> yes , I still do otherwise I am with same problem
[14:27] <Ian_Corne> or just chsh
[14:27] <Pici> cool_boy: run chsh, then enter your password, then enter /bin/bash
[14:28] <Ian_Corne> Pici: answer thief!
[14:28] <Ian_Corne> :p
[14:28] <redloff> hi
[14:28] <Pici> Ian_Corne: chsh /bin/bash is invalid, it doesn't take the shell as an argument.
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: run: ls -l ~/.bashrc     what is output?
[14:28] <cool_boy> Pici: chsh: user '/bin/bash' does not exist
[14:28] <Ian_Corne> well i' respondend with or just chsh :)
[14:28] <Ian_Corne> sorry
[14:29] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: -rw-r--r-- 1 openerp openerp 3486 Apr  3  2012 /home/openerp/.bashrc
[14:29] <Ian_Corne> I should put my foot in my mounth and be sure first
[14:29] <redloff> I have an unrelated question. If you were to choose one of your fridge products that would talk to you whenever you open your fridge, which product it would be?
[14:29] <cool_boy> Ian_Corne: no problem, thanks
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: if you run:  whoami    does it say: openerp    ?
[14:29] <pii3> hi
[14:29] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: yes
[14:29] <pii3> anyone ever installed openchange ?
[14:29] <Pici> redloff: #ubuntu-oftopic
[14:30] <redloff> Pici: thx
[14:30] <Pici> redloff: except spellec correctly
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: if you run:  ls -l ~/.profile     does it show the same?
[14:30] <simakk> help
[14:30] <cool_boy> ActionParsnip: yes, -rw-r--r-- 1 openerp openerp 140 Apr 10 19:55 /home/openerp/.profile
[14:30] <Ian_Corne> so cool_boy just run "chsh"
[14:30] <Ian_Corne> did you do that?
[14:31] <cool_boy> did nt work
[14:31] <cool_boy> :(
[14:33] <simakk> server certificate verification has failed metasploit , any pointers ?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: is the shell of your user set to bash?
[14:33] <simakk> my metasploit wont update
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> cool_boy: what is the output of:  grep openerp /etc/passwd     what is output?
[14:35] <cool_boy> openerp:x:1001:1001:Openerp:/home/openerp:/bin/sh
[14:35] <Pici> cool_boy: type chsh
[14:36] <cool_boy> Pici: says
[14:36] <cool_boy> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[14:36] <cool_boy> 	Login Shell [/bin/sh]:
[14:36] <Pici> cool_boy: type /bin/bash
[14:36] <cool_boy> i Pressed enter
[14:36] <mouseofthesteppe> hello! if we're logged into an ubuntu cmd as user, how do we get to var/cache/apt?
[14:36] <Pici> cool_boy: don't take the default, you need to replace that with /bin/bash
[14:37] <cool_boy> Pici: thanks, works
[14:37] <mouseofthesteppe> I don't actually know how to get out of this user into a normal directory
[14:37] <cool_boy> thank you soo ooooooooooo much
[14:37] <cool_boy> :)
[14:38] <mouseofthesteppe> I know its cd, but that doesn't do it for user
[14:38] <Myrtti> mouseofthesteppe: /var/cache/apt or var/cache/apt?
[14:38] <Myrtti> there is a difference.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Myrtti: depends on pwd. It could be the same ;)
[14:39] <mouseofthesteppe> myrtti: when browsing the GUI, i want to go to the var thats sitting in the most basic of directories
[14:39] <mouseofthesteppe> before home
[14:40] <mouseofthesteppe> its the apt that holds all the downloads
[14:40] <mouseofthesteppe> so i can check a sha1
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: then run:  nautilus /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:40] <mouseofthesteppe> ActionParsnip: no password
[14:41] <mouseofthesteppe> I mean yes password, same one
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: your user can read the data without need for any passwords
[14:42] <mouseofthesteppe> ActionParsnip: your command opens the window, is that a sign?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: yes, you can now see the old deb files etc
[14:42] <t3hb055nueb> how do I disable the guest account?
[14:43] <mouseofthesteppe> ActionParsnip: sure but I want to know how to get to the directory inside the command line, because as far as i'm aware, its required to be inside a directory to check the sum1 of a file in it
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[14:44] <Pici> mouseofthesteppe: you can just do sha1sum /path/to/file
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: sudo passwd -l guest
[14:44] <t3hb055nueb> -l?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: read the man page
[14:45] <t3hb055nueb> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I did. Man -l? didnt get it
[14:45] <mouseofthesteppe> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'm there. i got hung up on why cd /var had worked but cd /cache hadn't and thought it had to do with users, but now i'm there so i'll do the sha1 test
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: man passwd
[14:46] <t3hb055nueb> man passwd
[14:46] <Pici> t3hb055nueb: on a terminal, not here.
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: cd /cache    would only work if there was a folder called cache in the root of the file ssytem next to /etc and /home
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> mouseofthesteppe: if you drop the leading '/' it will enter the folder if it is present in the pwd
[14:47] <t3hb055nueb> sudo passwd -l 'Guest Session' does not exist
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tiphow-to-disable-guest-account-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[14:49] <t3hb055nueb> ActionParsnip: Thanks bud
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: went to a search engine and typed:  ubuntu disable guest account
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> t3hb055nueb: nothing fancy....
[14:52] <t3hb055nueb> i'll start doing that
[14:53] <magesing> Hi everyone, How do I play with grub2's configuration having booted from the install media?
[14:53] <t3hb055nueb> sudo restart lightdm... terminal is stuck at that point
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> magesing: in what way?
[14:54] <magesing> ActionParsnip: telling it where / is, which kernel to boot etc.
[14:54] <magesing> ActionParsnip: the auto-install of grub from the installer failed
[14:54] <magesing> ActionParsnip: so I'm stuck doing it myself
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> magesing: do you dual boot?
[14:55] <magesing> ActionParsnip: no, but I am installing on a software raid-1 setup
[14:55] <magesing> ActionParsnip: the installer doesn't play nicely with mdadm
[14:55] <newba> hi, don't know where to ask for help… I'm getting lots of connection timeouts to launchpad.net servers, from AWS
[14:56] <magesing> ActionParsnip: to get the install to happen I had to mdadm --assemble all my /deb/md devices, and then the installer could see them
[14:56] <magesing> ActionParsnip: that's /dev/md devices
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> newba: I'd ask in #launchpad then :)
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> magesing: i've not played with mdadm
[14:56] <magesing> ActionParsnip: the arrays are up and working
[14:56] <newba> ActionParsnip: yeah tks
[14:56] <magesing> ActionParsnip: I just need to know how to get at the grub2 configuration
[14:57] <magesing> I've been reading that I need to edit some files in /etc and then grub-update
[14:57] <magesing> however the /etc in my current root is on a ramdisk, so I don't think editing those files would be too helpful
[14:57] <magesing> do I have to mount everything and chroot for this to work?
[14:58] <anew> so when running top what does the bold line mean ?
[15:00] <magesing> Are there any helpful grub configuration utilities on the install media?
[15:02] <daschel> can anyone recommend a text-based web browser? I can only start in recovery mode
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> magesing, You might consider using the biitscript and posting at the ubuntu forums.
[15:02] <wilee-nilee> bootscript&
[15:02] <magesing> wilee-nilee: what is the biitscript?
[15:03] <wilee-nilee> magesing, bootscript sorry, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[15:03] <ctfTijG> daschel: lynx
[15:03] <daschel> thanks
[15:04] <wilee-nilee> magesing, A good tool for showing your setup for help, without the 100 questions. ;)
[15:04] <ctfTijG> ur welcome
[15:04] <machinarius> Hey guys, anyone knows why connecting to a new network on lubuntu 12.10 (with the bcwm sources package installed) requires root password?
[15:04] <magesing> wilee-nilee: that's handy
[15:05] <DrGrov> How did I mount my hard drive, running a Live CD? Gotta go in a fix my xorg.conf... again...
[15:06] <DrGrov> How would I know what is the cause if the TV says that there is no signal, is that that the modeline I inserted was somewhat right but just out of range?
[15:06] <machinarius> DrGrov: sudo -i, fdisk -l (To find which disk is your /), mkdir /mnt/something, mount /dev/xxxx /mnt/something
[15:06] <wilee-nilee> magesing, There is a another tool called bootrepair that will run the script without repairing as well, with a little more info, just hit the bootinfo summary. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:06] <DrGrov> sudo -i, fdisk -l
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: you mount partitions, not hard drives
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> machinarius: are there any bugs reported?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> machinarius: what is the output of:  groups
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> machinarius: which network managing application are you using?
[15:09] <machinarius> ActionParsnip: I am using the network manager applet, default on lubunu
[15:09] <magesing> wilee-nilee: I think boot-repair is what i'm after
[15:10] <machinarius> ActionParsnip: $ groups -> erika adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare (erika is my username)
[15:10] <wilee-nilee> magesing, Be careful using it for repair is all I would say, I prefer the command line myself. ;)
[15:10] <duckstep> has the package grub-md5-crypt changed? i cannot find it on my system and it is not in the apt repository
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> machinarius: looks ok, are there any bugs reported?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> duckstep: could check on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[15:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Ok, I got it now and did the necessary changes.
[15:11] <magesing> wilee-nilee: well, I'm trying to repair my bootloader from the command line, however, I'm not familiar enough with grub2 yet
[15:11] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[15:11] <DrGrov> Brb
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> magesing: omgubuntu has a great guide entitled:  sticking it to grub
[15:11] <magesing> wilee-nilee: the config files arn't in /boot anymore, so I need both /boot and /etc mounted and chrooted I suppose for grub-update to work
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> magesing: lets you fix grub using chroot from live cd
[15:11] <wilee-nilee> magesing, Grub 2 is fairly easy the raid1 makes it more difficult, at least for me I have never run any raid.
[15:12] <duckstep> ActionParsnip: "Sorry, your search gave no results"
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> duckstep: search launchpad, there may be a changelog
[15:12] <battlehands> Hello.  I'm trying to install MEVBench.  The README is found here: https://raw.github.com/jlclemon/MEVBench/master/README.  I'm on the Building MEVBench section Note 1.  I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS using VirtualBox.  Do I need to install the 3rd party libraries listed in Note 1?
[15:12] <magesing> oh the price I pay to be safe from hard-drive failures
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> magesing: fairly cheap, usb storage is cheap
[15:13] <t3hb055nueb> can I use wine to play starcraft?
[15:13] <jambeedrum> hi does anyone knows if the ubuntu forums on the web have a section for science?
[15:13] <jambeedrum> anyone helping?
[15:13] <machinarius> ActionParsnip: A quick google search does not reveal any wireless bugs on lubuntu
[15:14] <shiin> jambeedrum: have you looked yet?
[15:14] <jambeedrum> ive been a bit of trouble navigating trought the menus, ill try
[15:14] <RedViper> Hi, I am installing a dual boot with Windows 7 on a 160GB Hard Drive and Ubuntu 12.04 on a 500GB Hard Drive, But I am unsure of setting up the Linux partitions so could someone take a look a my pastebin and help me on what to do and what is the best option?
[15:15] <jambeedrum> is there a off topic like in freenode?
[15:15] <cereal> So I've setup bonding with a bridge.  Everything is working fine except every once in a while on reboot the mac-address changes even though I've set the hwaddress of my bond interface.  This never was a problem before I added the bridge to the setup.  Any tips or suggestions on what to do?  Seems like 25% of the time it uses one of the ethX interface hwaddresses instead.  http://hastebin.com/xacodoride.cpp
[15:15] <RedViper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695627/
[15:15] <magesing> ActionParsnip: I wasn't referring to the costs of storage, I was referring to the headaches I buy myself by using a RAID setup
[15:16] <magesing> ActionParsnip: I also do pereodic backups of my data to an external drive
[15:16] <shiin> this channel seems to be flooded with questions.
[15:16] <jambeedrum> shiin: i found it, ty
[15:16] <shiin> jambeedrum: most welcome.
[15:19] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, Logicals are inside a extended, root at least 20 gigs, home is your choice as far as needs, personally I don't bother with separating them.
[15:19] <jambeedrum> shiin: im interested in the human body, not getting very lucky.. i just found something about astronomy
[15:20] <andycc> I have a small problem - ping, apt-get, elinks and the like refuse to resolve domains, but I can ping any IP, resolve domains with dig and browse with Chromium just fine. Does anyone here have any idea what's going on?
[15:20] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: root is / - right? 20GB is ok. What do you mean by separating them?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> andycc  DNS issue
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, Separate root from home, some like this for easy upgrades and other reasons, I keep all my stuff on externals so not needed.
[15:22] <shiin> jambeedrum: you're looking for packages related to medicine and science?
[15:22] <wilee-nilee> the home is kept for the upgrade
[15:23] <jambeedrum> shiin: it could help
[15:23] <andycc> MonkeyDust: what kind of issue would you say it is? I can ping all my DNS servers and dig works.
[15:23] <shiin> jambeedrum: you're probably looking for a different distro then
[15:23] <DrGrov> I am so happy, so happy!
[15:23] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: Could you open up my paste bin and show me how one would sort that out?
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> andycc  guess you don't have your DNS server specified
[15:24] <DrGrov> I got the screen now to 1920x1080 with nouveau even if it persisted all the time at 1360x768.
[15:24] <ClientAlive> I'm running awesome wm (along with things like mc and w3m - console apps) in a virtual box vm. I'm having hot key confilicts with Ubuntu 12.04 (my host) and I need some clues where to work on solving the problem. Can anyone advise please?
[15:24]  * DrGrov is happy, so happy. So happy so happy
[15:24] <jambeedrum> shiin: ive been watching brain documentaries on you tube, theyr ok, ive been checking on forumns on the web, i dint got entusiathic, since i simpatize with linux and know there offtopic topics
[15:24] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, A little more help than I have time to give really, it gets a bit frustrating to do this when the info is on the web.
[15:25] <jambeedrum> diferent distro..
[15:25] <shiin> jambeedrum: http://www.medfloss.org/node/256 like those?
[15:25] <ClientAlive> it may also be partly due to the laptop itself though (part of it). It is a newer HP and the F keys serve a dual purpose (things like volume and toggle illuminated keyboard, etc).
[15:25] <jambeedrum> let me check
[15:26] <jambeedrum> whats a distro for science or medecine?
[15:26] <ClientAlive> jambeedrum: scientific linux is one
[15:26] <ClientAlive> jambeedrum: for forensic work there is SMART linux but I think you have to pay for it
[15:27] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: Pardon my intelligence then. It gets even more frustrating when one cant get help. Could you point me in the right direction? A web page explaining would be nice?
[15:27] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, I would say the ubuntu forums is an excellent place to get help in this.
[15:27] <andycc> MonkeyDust: I just manually edited resolv.conf, it works now - NetworkManager isn't working properly, it seems. Thanks.
[15:28] <cypt_not_avaible> Hello can somebody help me out>
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, It is a simple as booting the live cd and choosing the something else optio and pointing the install at the second drive and making sure grub is in its mbr.
[15:28] <ClientAlive> RedViper: can you paste the link again? No promises but if I can help I will. Just that I just came on the chanel and can't see your earlier conversation in the screen.
[15:28] <wilee-nilee> s/option
[15:28] <jambeedrum> shiin: i think those distros are for professionals
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> andycc  great (y)
[15:28] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: Why should it be any different from here. In fact  need to get over t problem as soon as possible?
[15:29] <cypt_not_avaible> Wenn i start up my laptop he is sayting crypt setup not avaible
[15:29] <RedViper> ClientAlive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5695627/
[15:29] <ClientAlive> RedViper: one moment
[15:29] <shiin> jambeedrum: thats the point, you're talking about science and medicine. those are two highly professional topics.
[15:29] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, Not to offend you, but this is hand holding, and the IRC does not equate faster.
[15:30] <wilee-nilee> one gets tired of having to work so hard to explain stuff is all after 1000's of times
[15:30] <ClientAlive> RedViper: please describe your goal
[15:30] <HelenaKitty> Guys?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> HelenaKitty
[15:30] <cypt_not_avaible> Wenn i start up my laptop he is sayting crypt setup not avaible
[15:30] <HelenaKitty> I'm about to install Ubuntu onto a nexus 7. Please could you tell me if this will work for armhf and perform smoothly? http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019
[15:30] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: If you could not be bothered to help then please dont waste my time!
[15:31] <jambeedrum> shiin: do you think those distros have a applications for "learning" or preformind?
[15:31] <jambeedrum> preforming
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> HelenaKitty: I don't know if the PPA supportes ARM, you may want to check
[15:31] <HelenaKitty> I don't use Ubuntu so idk.
[15:31] <Myrtti> HelenaKitty: ubuntu and ubuntu touch are different things. I doubt you'd be able to.
[15:31] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, Heh, no problem, and that attitude will not help you, I was jsut being honest with how much I will help. ;)
[15:32] <HelenaKitty> Myrtti: Explain?
[15:32] <RedViper> ClientAlive: I am installing a dual boot with Windows 7 on a 160GB Hard Drive and Linux Mint on a 500GB Hard Drive, But I am unsure of setting up the Linux partitions on two separate hard disks.
[15:32] <MonkeyDust> RedViper  have you asked help in the !mint channel?
[15:32] <Myrtti> HelenaKitty: ActionParsnips answer pretty much says it all.
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: mint isn't supported here
[15:33] <ClientAlive> RedViper: what I can do is try to find you link with some info. I can't guarantee what I will find but if you give me 10 min I will look.
[15:33] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: Pointless Chatter Thanks for your help
[15:33] <wilee-nilee> RedViper, LOl I gave you the information needed you just do not understand it. ;)
[15:34] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: MonkeyDust: I mean Ubuntu 12.04. Sorry I am working with mint on another machine :)
[15:34] <RedViper> wilee-nilee: Thanks :)
[15:34] <ClientAlive> RedViper: is it an efi install or BIOS? Do you plan to put both operating systems on one disk and data storage on the other disk or will you place one operating system on each disk?
[15:35] <HelenaKitty> Okay some guy has installed Netflix on his Ubuntu Nexus 7.
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, Ubuntu on a nexus is rather problematic, and adding netflix is a going to make it worse.
[15:35] <snuggl> RedViper: swap - use as much as you have RAM, or more, /home - enough to store all normal files like docs, music. movies
[15:35] <HelenaKitty> wilee-nilee: Explain?
[15:35] <snuggl> and / for the rest
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> HelenaKitty: You can contact the maintainer of the PPA https://launchpad.net/~ehoover
[15:35] <HelenaKitty> I just want more freedom :(
[15:35] <snuggl> RedViper: if you only have three partitions you dont need logical
[15:35] <poisoned_dragon> RedViper, were you just on the spotchat server asking that question in a linuxmint room?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> HelenaKitty: if Netflix is a requirement of the device then I would stick with Android
[15:35] <snuggl> RedViper: its used to go over the four partition limit
[15:35] <poisoned_dragon> I recognize the paste.
[15:35] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, I have loaded ubuntu to my nexus 7 numerous times, it has problems with locking up and just is not responsive.
[15:36] <RedViper> ClientAlive: Its off a Live CD and I want to put An operating system on each Hard disk
[15:36] <snuggl> RedViper: and mount points are / and /home respective
[15:36]  * tgm4883 wonders how "wanting more freedom" also includes needing to use a proprietary service
[15:36] <snuggl> RedViper: anything else you wish to know?
[15:36] <HelenaKitty> oh
[15:36] <RedViper> snuggl: How tp
[15:36] <HelenaKitty> That's cause Ubuntu get heavier by release. :/
[15:36] <snuggl> RedViper: i cannot parse that sentence
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> HelenaKitty: not really
[15:37] <RedViper> snuggl: How to set it up would be helpful as I am very unsure how to do it?
[15:37] <HelenaKitty> Either way I know what I am doing so if it all fails I can restore back to android.
[15:37] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, It is a development thing as of now is all the ubuntu touch is getting more work.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> HelenaKitty: its because services like netflix refuse to support teh ubuntu platform
[15:37] <snuggl> RedViper: just use the partition tool in the installer
[15:37] <HelenaKitty> okies
[15:37] <HelenaKitty> ActionParsnip: Er...
[15:37] <HelenaKitty> I know that
[15:37] <snuggl> RedViper: its no worries if its goes wrong, just redo
[15:37] <HelenaKitty> but you said Ubuntu itself locks up
[15:38] <megha> i want to learn ubuntu packaging from where i can start learning...??
[15:38] <HelenaKitty> megha: How about...
[15:38] <HelenaKitty> you learn APT all together
[15:38] <RedViper> snuggl: I like you thinking :). Ufortunately I don't really have time for redo's.
[15:38] <tgm4883> megha, http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> megha: look into checkinstall
[15:38] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, If you are familiar with flashing the nexus, I would say try it, first hand experience is probably your bet bet.
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> !checkinstall
[15:39] <wilee-nilee> *best
[15:39] <snuggl> RedViper: tbh you could have done 3-4 tries in this time =) its quite fast
[15:39] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip, checkinstall isn't a replacement for packaging
[15:39] <snuggl> RedViper: i would just do a swap that is as big as your RAM, then one partition for root
[15:39] <megha> thanks HelenaKitty tgm4883 ActionParsnip :)
[15:40] <HelenaKitty> You're welcome!
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: it makes deb files from compiled source, it is part of packaging
[15:40] <RedViper> snuggl: No, not an entire reinstall, and I want to do it properly. I also dont know what to set to Primary or Logical? Or Beginning or End?
[15:40] <ClientAlive> RedViper: I would install windows to the first disk (windows will call is C:\ and linux will call it sda). And put linux on the second. Where linux is concerned, it will be your bootloader which handles which disk to boot from (for linux, probalby but Mint may use something different - idk). If it is grub it will be in the way you configure /etc/fstab (a configuration file). You will want to use all primary partitions for both operating
[15:40] <ClientAlive> systems. Install each one separately like each is it's own project. Do win first, then linux on the second drive.
[15:41] <snuggl> RedViper: leave them as default
[15:41] <snuggl> RedViper: ive already answered about logical
[15:41] <snuggl> RedViper: its used to get around the four partition limit on physical partitions
[15:41] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip, thats disingenuous. One doesn't usually ask to learn about packaging so they can just install stuff on their own system. One usually asks about packaging so they can package stuff for redistribution
[15:41] <snuggl> RedViper: as you only have three, use physical
[15:41] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip, particularily in repos
[15:41] <snuggl> but it really doesnt matter
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: I'd put both OSes on the same physical drive and have your user data, %TMP%, %TEMP% and swap partition on the other drive.
[15:41]  * DAL|Desktop facedesk
[15:42] <miguitas> ActionParsnip: check https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm is better than checkinstall and more professional but is not a replacement for packaging
[15:42] <DAL|Desktop> Audio isn't working, I've a 5.1 surround sound card and jack keeps crashing
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: it helps if you compile your own packages fro source for stuff that isn't in the repos. Why is it such a bad thing to want to learn
[15:43] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip, I didn't say it was bad to learn. I said it probably wasn't what he was after
[15:43] <daschel> hey guys.  im getting a black screen when I try to boot into mint.  i get past grub, but I never get to the display manager.  now I can only use recovery mode.  the last thing I remember doing is installing the squirrel sql manager.  i've uninstalled that, but it still doesn't boot properly
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: ahh i see
[15:43] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: I have two hard disks and I want each operating system on it's own hard drive
[15:43] <daschel> oh, and i know this is an ubuntu channel, but the mint guys aren't responding
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> daschel: mint isnt supported here
[15:43] <RedViper> snuggl: I don't understant what the stuff does thou?
[15:43] <theadmin> daschel: Mint isn't a supported Ubuntu derivative, please click: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> daschel: its still not supported here
[15:43] <tgm4883> !mint | daschel
[15:44] <ClientAlive> RedViper: as far as how many GB and use as and mount point goes this should give you a good idea what to do. It's 4 yrs old but I'm sure it will be very similar to a current install. If you get stuck while in the process just ask for help again (prolly on a mint chanel): http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/install_linuxmint.html
[15:44] <HelenaKitty> Okies beginning the Ubuntu flash process.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: that's fine, you can speed up windows by making an NTFS partition on the Ubuntu drive and storing your pagefile and %TEMP% there :)
[15:44] <HelenaKitty> Fingers crossed guys fingers crossed!
[15:45] <snuggl> RedViper: a logical partition is like partions-in-partions
[15:45] <snuggl> RedViper: its a trick, you tell the old hardware that you only have 4 partitons, as that is max, then software will fake the rest
[15:45] <Walther> Are there any reasons not to use LVM partitioning anymore, btw?
[15:45] <snuggl> Walther: no, not really
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> Guys?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Walther: allows you to add more space later and extend the partition, if memory serves
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> how big is the img file when decompressed?
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> O.o
[15:46] <snuggl> HelenaKitty: what?
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> my GB's are running out
[15:46] <ClientAlive> RedViper: what I mean to say earlier is that most of the larger linux systems use grub for the bootloader but I'm not familiar with Mint so not sure.
[15:46] <tgm4883> HelenaKitty, probably a few GB
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> 2.2GB storage space now
[15:46] <daschel> i understand that, but the mint support isn't quite up to par.  the ubuntu forums and channels are much more developed and whenever I can't find the solution directly through mint, the ubuntu team generally succeeds.  even though it's not officially supported, would you mind just thinking it over?
[15:46] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, I forget but it extracted is about 700mb
[15:46] <HelenaKitty> :o
[15:47] <theadmin> daschel: Not possible. See, it's like asking help about Ubuntu on Debian channels -- too much changed and nobody's even sure what exactly is.
[15:47] <tgm4883> daschel, not entirely sure how that is our problem
[15:47] <wilee-nilee> same as a cd download pretty much HelenaKitty
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> daschel: no, its not supported here or in any of the ubuntu channels. Ubuntu (and many other distros) are based on Debian. But if you ask for Debian support in #debian you will be pointed here
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> WHAT?!
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> O.o
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> daschel: you aren't using ubuntu, you are using mint, so it's not suported here
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> oh cd few
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> I was thinking DVD haha
[15:47] <FloodBot1> HelenaKitty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> my bad okies few
[15:47] <HelenaKitty> FloodBot1: sorry
[15:47] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I got the resolution as intended :)
[15:47] <maitrey>  Hi! Question: after last update my usb and ext.hdd are not allowing to copy stuff without being root and also when I already open as root, than the copy speed is completely crazy 20mb-2hrs. Someone help please ;-)
[15:48] <HelenaKitty> Why did I get quietted?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: sweet
[15:48] <theadmin> HelenaKitty: Happens when you send too many messages in a short time.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> HelenaKitty  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[15:49] <maitrey> Why would all the devices at once need to have permission?
[15:49] <wilee-nilee> HelenaKitty, If you post enough in a row the bot will quiet you.
[15:49] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: It is, the only reason I got rid of nvidia-current and opted for nouveau was because of Chromium/Firefox/Chrome + Flash causing a segfault which I read through in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[15:49] <HelenaKitty> Woah woah guys! haha I get it. lol
[15:49] <theadmin> Hm... "ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported" lists some packages that came in the default Ubuntu install and definetly weren't updated through a PPA, e.g. unity-place-files. What gives?
[15:50] <allan8904> Does anyone know the status on "ubuntu for android"?
[15:50] <DrGrov> ActionParsnip: I never thought I would get it done but apparently a little EDID magic did the trick haha :) Thanks again for the kind help and listening
[15:50] <jrib> theadmin: be more specific?
[15:50] <danny_> hello, I am setting up a vm to test some stuff on ubuntu (host and vm). On the host, I created an nfs export so that the vm could store data on the real filesystem. When I mount the nfs on the vm, and try to 'ls -la' the mountpoint, I get denied. The user I logged in with is in the group the nfs export is owned by.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> DrGrov: any time :)
[15:50] <theadmin> jrib: Not sure how can I be more specific. The package came with Ubuntu, no PPA/third party repo provides that package, I'm on a supported release (precise), but the program claims it's not supported?
[15:51] <theadmin> Trying to get the logic behind that
[15:51] <tgm4883> theadmin, that package is in universe
[15:51] <tgm4883> theadmin, Universe - Community maintained software, i.e. not officially supported software.
[15:53] <danny_> Even when I run the 'ls -la' as root (with sudo) I get permission denied. It only works if I 'sudo -u <user>' to run it as the owner of the nfs mount. Why aren't group perms working?
[15:53] <tgm4883> danny_, are you squashing root privs?
[15:53] <wilee-nilee> danny_, It help if you give the details leading to this conundrum to the channel.
[15:54] <wilee-nilee> help's*
[15:55] <danny_> tgm4883: I used these options on the nfs server: (rw,async,insecure)
[15:55] <snuggl> danny_: do the users have same UID on both computers?
[15:55] <Ca11um> Is there any way of storing Ubuntu accounts on a LAN server, with synced documents?
[15:55] <snuggl> Ca11um: sure
[15:55] <Ca11um> Like Active Directory, but without all the full-blown features such as GP
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: you could make an LDAP server
[15:55] <jambeedrum> ty for everyones time
[15:55] <snuggl> Ca11um: there are several systems
[15:55] <snuggl> Ca11um: google PAM
[15:56] <Ca11um> Which is the most native?
[15:56] <tgm4883> danny_, so then yes, you are squashing root privs over NFS
[15:56] <snuggl> Ca11um: neither really
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Ca11um: I'd look at comparisons between, see which offers what you need
[15:57] <gizmobay> I have to change the extension on a lot of files in a directory. The files are file001.tif and file001.tif.html. I just need to change the file001.tif.html to file001.html
[15:57] <danny__> snuggl: Yes, the vm has the same UIDs and GIDs for the users in question
[15:57] <tgm4883> danny_, on both systems?
[15:57] <danny__> (it appears my irc died, so i refreshed)
[15:57] <Ca11um> So with an OpenLDAP server, I can have the same accounts on every machine, and when they login they get the same interface and documents?
[15:58] <danny__> If anyone responded to me, can you repeat as I lost connection for a minute
[15:58] <tgm4883> danny_, so then yes, you are squashing root privs over NFS
[15:58] <snuggl> Ca11um: thats 2 steps
[15:58] <snuggl> Ca11um: remote auth, then shared storage
[15:58] <tgm4883> danny_, so the VM and the NFS server have the same UID for the user?
[15:58] <snuggl> Ca11um: both are very doable sure
[15:59] <theadmin> tgm4883: Hm, that's odd, wonder why it's on here then. Definetly didn't install it manually
[15:59] <theadmin> Oh well
[15:59] <snuggl> Ca11um: for shared storage you could use SMB as windows does, or NFS or SSHFS or any of the network enabled file systems
[15:59] <tgm4883> theadmin, it's probably included in the default install
[15:59] <danny__> tgm4883: yes, the nfs export on the server is owned by www-data:www-data which is a system account which is preconfigured so the vm also has the same
[15:59] <theadmin> tgm4883: And that's my original question: Why would unsupported software be in a default install?
[15:59] <tgm4883> danny__, no, not "are they the same user", the question was "are they the same UID"
[16:00] <tgm4883> theadmin, why shouldn't it be?
[16:00] <gebin> !list
[16:00] <theadmin> tgm4883: ...Good point, after all this is Linux
[16:00] <theadmin> Heh
[16:00] <techgaun> wondering if anything could be done to separate bandwidth limits for normal internet browsing & downloading. Working on HTB implementation. Anyone has any idea on how this could be achieved?
[16:00] <danny__> tgm4883: Yes, same UID and username. www-data is created as UID 33 at install time
[16:01] <tgm4883> theadmin, it's a transitional package, so it doesn't even do anything
[16:01] <danny__> tgm4883: I'm confused about how permissions on an nfs mount are parsed.
[16:01] <theadmin> tgm4883: Ah, ic
[16:02] <tgm4883> danny__, IIRC, it just passes the UID
[16:02] <techgaun> The real deal is how to differentiate between the normal HTTP traffic & download traffic.
[16:02] <tgm4883> danny__, IIRC, NFSv4 has some additional things you can setup for security, but I don't think they are on by default
[16:03] <danny__> tgm4883: okay, I think I get it
[16:03] <tgm4883> danny__, see "User ID Mapping"  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/exports.5.html
[16:03] <sprezzatura> if  i want to secure my slice(running ubuntu) on a VPS, does setting up iptables and fail2ban alone suffice. anything else that needs to be done?
[16:03] <Laurenceb__> hi
[16:03] <Laurenceb__> i have a big problem
[16:03] <theadmin> techgaun: I don't think this is possible, it's not different at all... I assume you could limit mimetypes that are application/*
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> something died with my window manager on 10.04
[16:04] <theadmin> techgaun: Or, if you're more strict, then just allow text/* and image/*
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> i have lots the top of the windows
[16:04] <Laurenceb__> can anyone help?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Laurenceb__  consider upgrading, in 3 weeks from now, 10.04 won't be supported anymore
[16:04] <theadmin> techgaun: Not sure if this is possible or not with whatever soft you're using, but trying to give the general idea
[16:04] <techgaun> theadmin: Hmm.. this could be done but still would not be full proof.
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> yeah whatever
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> i have stuff i need to fix NOW
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> metacity --replace wont work over ssh
[16:05] <Laurenceb__> and its too unusable to get a terminsl up
[16:06] <tgm4883> Laurenceb__, you can't use keyboard combo to start terminal?
[16:06] <Laurenceb__> tgm4883: i cant get focus to come out of firefox
[16:06] <theadmin> techgaun: See, browsers *download* wobpages and all their content. So, it's "download traffic".
[16:06] <tgm4883> Laurenceb__, what if you close firefox?
[16:06] <studious> hello world
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> tgm4883: i cant
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> oh i could close over ssh
[16:07] <theadmin> Laurenceb__: To do "metacity --replace" over SSH first export DISPLAY=:0
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> ill try that
[16:07] <techgaun> One way to do this would be to throttle the bandwidth of the user if user keeps on reaching certain limit for certain timespan. Because, if he is just visiting some website, it would not cause high traffics for longer period of time. This could actually work as the heuristic for classifying the bandwidth.
[16:07] <ClientAlive> I'm running awesome wm (along with things like mc and w3m - console apps) in a virtual box vm. I'm having hot key confilicts with Ubuntu 12.04 (my host) and I need some clues where to work on solving the problem. Can anyone advise please? it may also be partly due to the laptop itself though (part of it). It is a newer HP and the F keys serve a dual purpose (things like volume and toggle illuminated keyboard, etc).
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> ok thanks
[16:07] <Laurenceb__> ill see if its fixed :P
[16:08] <theadmin> Laurenceb__: Still though, you really should upgrade to a new release.
[16:08] <Laurenceb> ok
[16:08] <Laurenceb> thats fixed it
[16:09] <theadmin> Laurenceb: Since Lucid is an LTS release, you can upgrade directly to the next LTS, being Precise (12.04). I advise that.
[16:09] <Laurenceb> yeah
[16:11] <Siraris> I had trouble with a drive on Amazon EC2 running Ubuntu, so I spun up a separate instance, and attached the volume as a slave device.  If I have the original problem drive attached, I can't Ssh into the machine, if I don't have the problem drive attached, I can ssh in
[16:11] <Siraris> Does anyone know what the problem could be?
[16:13] <theadmin> Siraris: I suppose it boots into the problematic OS despite it being a slave, check your boot order if at all possible
[16:13] <Siraris> theadmin:  I can check the syslog in the EC2 admin panel, and I see nothing about errors
[16:14] <SuperLag> Are you supposed to be able to pass a wildcard to apt-get install, so that if you want to install multiple packages with the same prefix, you can? (i.e. apt-get install open-vm-*)
[16:14] <somsip> Siraris: 'trouble with the drive' sounds like the EBS is b0rked.
[16:14] <jrib> theadmin: sorry, I had to leave suddenly.  I meant listing the specific packages in question but I see you sorted it out already :)
[16:14] <theadmin> jrib: Yeah, thanks
[16:15] <Siraris> somsip: Well I'm looking at the syslog and I think I may see the problem.  I'm using ElasticSearch on there and it says "The disk drive /mnt1/elasticsearch/data is not ready yet or not present.  Continue to wait or press S to skip the mounting or M for manual recovery"
[16:15] <Siraris> I'm wondering if that's causing the problem
[16:15] <somsip> Siraris: sounds like the EBS is b0rked...
[16:16] <Siraris> somsip: Isn't there a way to not boot into the bad EBS volume and mount it as a slave so I can go into the filesystem and fix it?
[16:16] <somsip> Siraris: boot to the working one, then mount the other one
[16:16] <chaudhry> anyone got time to help me with a chunk of C code?
[16:16] <somsip> Sargun: sorry...then attach the other one, then look at it
[16:16] <theadmin> chaudhry: ##c exists.
[16:16] <Siraris> somsip: Can you attach a drive after an instance is alread started?
[16:16] <somsip> Siraris: yes
[16:17] <Siraris> let me try that
[16:17] <Siraris> I was under the impression you couldn't mount a drive after an instance had started
[16:18] <somsip> Siraris: sorry, I don't do impressions
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Siraris  try mount --bind
[16:21] <bawelleme> hi...i cant mount my 1terabyt iomega external hdd in ubuntu 12.10
[16:21] <bawelleme> i get an error
[16:22] <she_dyed> we're waiting for you bawelleme
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> bawelleme, post the error with your command in a pastebin.
[16:23] <bawelleme> ohk
[16:23] <Conflict> Hey all, check out The Daily Bitcoin podcast for news and info on technology, bitcoin, crypto-currency, and linux (i'm a host an i use ubuntu exclusively!) https://soundcloud.com/mindtomatter/the-daily-bitcoin-episode-2
[16:23] <Pici> Conflict: Do not spam here.
[16:24] <DJones> Conflict: No advertising in the channel
[16:24] <Conflict> ahh sorry
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: is it NTFS?
[16:24] <jackyyll> im trying to resize a partition and i need to set the original starting sector to 63... btu fdisk wont let me put anything under 2048.. what do i do?
[16:25] <dr_willis> jackyyll: fdisk is considered outdated. try parted ir gparted
[16:25] <jackyyll> okay
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: when you last unplugged it, did you safely eject it?
[16:25] <HelenaKitty> Ubuntu is quite good on this tablet...
[16:25] <HelenaKitty> apart from calibration
[16:26] <bawelleme> yeah
[16:26] <bawelleme> its an ntfs
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> jackyyll: what file system is the aprtition you are resizing?
[16:26] <bawelleme> i just want to know the alternative ways of mounting an external hdd
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: did you use the safe remove feature in your OS last time you ejected it>
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: before physically unplugging it
[16:28] <bawelleme> i often would yank it out
[16:28] <bawelleme> i havent bi nice to it though
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: then that;s probably why.
[16:29] <dr_willis> bawelleme: not a good habbit.
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: I suggest you plug it into a Windows system and chkdsk it so you know it is healthy, then safe remove it as you should, then try it in Ubuntu
[16:29] <bawelleme> av got lots of data on it and i cant format it now
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: I never said to format it
[16:30] <bawelleme> till i get a backup for those data
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: who said format it?
[16:30] <dr_willis> the ntfs-3g command has a force option bawelleme ...  but  its best to let windows check it
[16:30] <bawelleme> ohk
[16:30] <bawelleme> i will do just that
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: when did anyone asy to format the device?
[16:30] <bawelleme> well from a couple of online resources
[16:31] <bawelleme> i went online to sekk a redress and most folks said to format it
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: when did anyone in this channel say to format it?
[16:31] <bawelleme> not in this channel...
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> bawelleme: we said to chkdsk it....that is all
[16:32] <bawelleme> i got that
[16:32] <HelenaKitty> Guys?
[16:32] <HelenaKitty> Is there a calibrater?
[16:32] <HelenaKitty> Where is it?
[16:32] <bazhang> HelenaKitty, to calibrate what
[16:34] <Myrtti> HelenaKitty: you're using Ubuntu on Nexus 7, right?
[16:34] <Suoni> Hi everyone
[16:34] <HelenaKitty> Myrtti: Yep
[16:34] <Myrtti> HelenaKitty: try #ubuntu-touch then
[16:35] <HelenaKitty> okies
[16:35] <roseysdaddy> can anyone help me with mounting a samba folder on my nas at boot?
[16:35] <tgm4883> HelenaKitty, xinput-calibrator
[16:35] <tgm4883> HelenaKitty, http://askubuntu.com/questions/41385/cannot-calibrate-touchscreen
[16:35] <magesing> Hi everyone... When I open windows (any windows) in my desktop environment (Gnome? whatever came default with 12.10) I can't drag, resize, or close any of the windows with my mouse, the mouse cursor moves, clicks on buttons within applications are registered, but no clicks on title-bars or buttons on title bars seem to be registered... What's going on, and how do I fix it?
[16:35] <magesing> aaand it randomly started working
[16:35] <magesing> expert syndrome
[16:35] <roseysdaddy> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.101/share  /share    then i leave the password blank and that mounts it, but im not sure how to do this at boot
[16:35] <magesing> ...
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> magesing: if you hold ALT, can you drag them?
[16:36] <magesing> ActionParsnip: not quite sure what happened, just started working... maybe compiz was taking time to load? I don't know
[16:36] <magesing> ActionParsnip: I'll try the alt thing if it re-occurs
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> magesing: probably, compiz is weird like that
[16:36] <tgm4883> !fstab | roseysdaddy
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> magesing: its one of the reasons I don't use it
[16:37] <magesing> interesting... I just clicked settings->user accounts, and the problem is back
[16:38] <magesing> I can't move or resize any of my windows
[16:38] <magesing> including alt-dragging
[16:38] <Tex_Nick> !13.04 > Tex_Nick
[16:39] <magesing> ActionParsnip: I wouldn't have chosen it, but it came with the default desktop install
[16:40] <roseysdaddy> i figured fstab, but I dont know how to write the command and it didnt work when i followed that link last night
[16:40] <jambeedrum> is there a room to chat about software reviews?
[16:40] <tgm4883> !OT | jambeedrum
[16:40] <Suoni> i seem to have lost my ubuntustudio desktop at logon, can anyone help?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> magesing: you can install any WM you like...although without compiz you cannot have Unity.
[16:40] <Suoni> thx
[16:42] <magesing> ActionParsnip: hmm... not all of my users would appreciate xmonad as much as I do
[16:42] <magesing> so I should probably get the default WM wroking properly
[16:42] <magesing> At the moment clicks on the lefthand bar of the screen are always registered, but once a program loads keyboard input works fine, but mouse input is ignored
[16:43] <magesing> cancel that, mouse input isn't working at all anymore, although  the cursor still moves when I move my mouse...
[16:43] <ArthurGordon> roseysdaddy: for example
[16:43] <ArthurGordon> /smb-server/share         /local-path/folder    cifs    user,noauto,noperm,username=youruser,uid=youruser,gid=users 0 0
[16:43] <magesing> I'm going to restart and hope all my problems go away
[16:46] <roseysdaddy> what do i put for user/password.  when i connect with windows I dont have to login
[16:46] <Guest98878> всем првиет
[16:46] <bawelleme> andn still resolving the hdd issue...but my ubuntu 12.10 cant shutdown...when i power it off it hangs with the ubuntu logo and the 5 dots moving. ay ideas?
[16:46] <daniel__> hi
[16:46] <daniel__> hi people
[16:47] <Guest98878> кто нибудь тут спик рашэн?
[16:47] <daniel__> hi people
[16:48] <daniel__> whats app
[16:48] <bawelleme> hi daniel
[16:48] <bawelleme> sup
[16:48] <roseysdaddy> ArthurGordon i dont need a username/password when connecting to the share with windows, so what would I put in the fstab line?
[16:48] <bawelleme> @daniel
[16:49] <DJones> !ru | Guest98878
[16:49] <daniel> hi
[16:49] <Guest28337> hi guest
[16:50] <Guest28337> hei people
[16:50] <Guest28337> I am from NOrway
[16:50] <Guest28337> hi seb
[16:50] <Guest28337> somebody home ?
[16:51] <DJones> Guest28337: This is the Ubuntu support channel, if you have a support query feel free to ask it
[16:51] <bawelleme> lots guest 28337
[16:51] <Siraris> So it seems I'm locked out of my Amazon EC2 instance because it doesn't like my public key.  Is there a way to fix this?  Or do I need to create a new instance?
[16:52] <Pici> Siraris: You may want to see if someone in #ubuntu-server has been in a similar situation
[16:52] <bawelleme> ActionParsnip; u der
[16:54] <esoltys> Are there any plans to update the countdown badges for 13.04? http://www.ubuntu.com/community/countdown
[16:55] <dryhay> Hi. What is the easiest way to create virtual IRC server on ubuntu?
[16:56] <Piete> Hi guys, what HUB command can I use to maximize a window?
[16:56] <Piete> HUD*
[16:56] <vitimiti> Piete, ctrl+(windows key)+(up arrow)
[16:56] <peerless> Hi guys.. I just installed cmake-2.8 ; when I run cmake system still runs the old version. How do I point it to the new install?
[16:57] <Calgarym25>  Is anyone willing to help with a wired connection issue?
[16:58] <studious> goodbye #ubuntu
[16:58] <studious> as ta la vista
[16:58] <wilee-nilee> Calgarym25, Most likely give the channel the details. ;)
[17:00] <Calgarym25> the details are long, but here it goes.  I have a Marvell Yukon 2 Gigabit Ethernet driver installed but I cannot get my d-link powerline 500 to work. I used have a dual boot with windows 7 but it stopped working, so I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS but it doednt work either.  I have tried running all sorts of code in terminal to no avail.
[17:00] <TaZeR> hi im using ubuntu
[17:01] <TaZeR> im not kidding
[17:01] <TaZeR> os[Linux 3.5.0-27-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU B980 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 92.1% free] disk[Total: 17.3GB, 77.0% free] video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH]
[17:01] <FloodBot1> TaZeR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <TaZeR> its the best operating system by far because you get free internet for life
[17:02] <chydenius> Can anyone help me repair my wireless access?
[17:02] <TaZeR> whats the problem?
[17:03] <onward> Can someone suggest me source packages written in C that are easy to read?
[17:03] <chydenius> I am running 12.10 on a System76 Gazelle Professional.  When I try to turn wireless on, the little switch won't go from Off to On.
[17:04] <fidel> onward: what are youtrying to achive?
[17:04] <TaZeR> was it working before?
[17:04] <chydenius> Yes, flawlessly for 8 months.  I select System Settings --> Network --> Wireless --> On and... nothing.
[17:04] <onward> fidel, I read a C book and now I wanted to read source code but can't find something easy to read.
[17:05] <TaZeR> your using gnome-network-manager?
[17:05] <fidel> onward: i would suggest heading to a more c-focused channel in the first place onward - thischannel is focusing on ubuntu support
[17:05] <chydenius> No, I'm using Unity out of the box.
[17:05] <onward> Alright, thanks.
[17:05] <chydenius> BTW, thanks for helping.
[17:05] <TaZeR> so yes then
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[17:06] <TaZeR> can you do # sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:06] <TaZeR> and make sure everything is right there
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> TaZeR, gksudo
[17:07] <TaZeR> and gimme the output of your iwconfig
[17:07] <Tex_Nick> !who chydenius & TaZeR
[17:08] <ArielMT> chydenius: if you can pardon me for suggesting the obvious, is that a wireless symbol on the f11 key?  if so, have you tried [fn]+[f11]?
[17:08] <Tex_Nick> !who | chydenius & TaZeR
[17:09] <evilkid> Hello, so im trying ti install my nVidia card on this ubutnu 10.04, but everytime i try ti install i get these errors : http://pastebin.com/jDfhDqLt
[17:09] <peerless> Hi Guys
[17:09] <chydenius> ArielMT, do you take Bitcoin?  THANK YOU!!!
[17:09] <peerless> How to point cmake to use the new cmake in /usr/share/ instead of the default one
[17:10] <ArielMT> chydenius: wish i did, and you're welcome :)
[17:10] <chydenius> TaZeR, ArielMT's fix worked.
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[17:10] <chydenius> Loggin out.  Thank you again!
[17:10] <ArielMT> TaZeR: chydenius had wireless disabled in the bios via the hotkey on his keyboard
[17:10] <peerless> Looking for help~
[17:11] <TaZeR> oh haha i didnt realize it was that simple
[17:11] <maletor> is there any way to get hardware acceleration w/ html5 video?
[17:11] <TaZeR> evilkid: try this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/112302/how-do-i-disable-the-nouveau-kernel-driver
[17:11] <Allard> hello Artha dictionary won't open from first click I have to do it twice?
[17:12] <Allard> hello Artha dictionary won't open from first click I have to do it twice?
[17:12] <magesing> Hi everyone... If I have /home directories left over from users from a previous install, what's the most straight-forwards way of re-making the users with their existing home directories?
[17:13] <sprezzatura> are these rules by NSA for RHEL valid for Ubuntu : http://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/rhel5-guide-i731.pdf
[17:14] <djathoris> magesing, are you talking about many accounts?
[17:14] <imjustmatthew> sprezzatura: Those NSA rules can't be followed excactly, but can be used as a guide for lockdown
[17:14] <magesing> djathoris: 3 accounts
[17:14] <magesing> djathoris: not a whole lot
[17:14] <fidel> sprezzatura: i doubt anyone inhere is able to tell you if that 200 page rredhat focused document is 100% validfor ubuntu as well - while you can for sure still use it to learn
[17:14] <Allard> hello Artha dictionary won't open from first click I have to do it twice?
[17:15] <magesing> djathoris: I'm just wondering if there's some script which will do all the ownership/permission fixing for me
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Allard
[17:15] <sprezzatura> fidel: imjustmatthew: but most of the rules should be valid right. or analogous for ubuntu. it looks pretty neat though. am not sure how old is it.
[17:16] <Allard> yeah one die I might die from patience
[17:16] <sprezzatura> ok. it was in feb 2011
[17:17] <djathoris> magesing, ownership fixing is easy "chown -R user directoryname"
[17:17] <Calgarym25> Hi all, I am having trouble connecting to my wired network (Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller).  It is through a D-Link Powerline Adapter, other computers work and mine used to work, but not anymore.
[17:17] <imjustmatthew> sprezzatura: all the *concepts* in the NSA guides are great, but many of the commands will be different since Ubuntu uses debian pacakges and different init, etc.
[17:18] <Allard> so noone will answer me?
[17:18] <sprezzatura> imjustmatthew: understandable. hence 'analogous'
[17:18] <bazhang> Allard, stop repeating every 30 seconds. be patient
[17:18] <Allard> patient for no answer?
[17:18] <djathoris> Allard, needing to doubleclick is a terrible ordeal
[17:18] <Allard> it is
[17:19] <xbrian> Is here an Addon fore Firefox to save websites 2 or more links deep?
[17:19] <fidel> xbrian: i dont know of a FF addon - but wget might do the trick
[17:19] <DJones> Allard: Its quite probable that nobody knows the answer and you need to repat the question every 10-15 minutes to give new people chance to come into the channel and see the question
[17:19] <bazhang> Allard, asking quickly and repeating the same question, without any details at all, will NOT get a quicker answer
[17:19] <fidel> !details | Allard
[17:20] <Allard> well it gives me no error it just won't start
[17:20] <Allard> I have to click again to start it
[17:20] <Allard> and it works
[17:20] <Allard> but all the other programs run on first click
[17:20] <fidel> Allard: consider re-reading the !details output
[17:20] <bazhang> Allard, where is this artha installed from
[17:20] <sprezzatura> fidel: imjustmatthew: is there any tool or script already present that provides and easy means to check the values of sysctl parameters. (i can always write one, but just wanted to check)
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> xbrian, Firefox has a addon called toolbar buttons that has a quick bookmark and other extras.
[17:20] <bazhang> !info artha
[17:20] <Allard> bazhang from the software center
[17:21] <Allard> how do I read this details output
[17:21] <bazhang> Allard, so it works, but only with a double click on the icon?
[17:21] <Allard> yes
[17:21] <Allard> that is true
[17:21] <bazhang> Allard, so whats the actual problem
[17:22] <imjustmatthew> sprezzatura: Not that I'm aware of
[17:22] <Allard> the problem is that I want it to start working like the rest programs that is from first click
[17:22] <Pici> !floodbots | Silic0n
[17:25] <Suoni> hi everyone, don't know if this was answered but I can't see my Ubuntu Studio logon option anymore. Anyway to get it back? Thx
[17:25] <Calgarym25> I have a problem with my wired connection, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 LTS When I try to connect it fails, but no error is given, the following happens:  it connects to my wireless
[17:25] <xbrian> fidel: ah my bad i forgot 'wget' thank you for this nice tip!
[17:26] <fidel> Suoni: what login manager are you using? lightdm, gdm something else?
[17:26] <Allard> hello I have another question since this one is not answered, Is there an option on the Ubuntu site to be connected to "Ubuntu Expert" for live chat?
[17:26] <xbrian> wilee-nilee:  i have that addon but didnt found the function. Im going to use wget Thanks!
[17:26] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Are you sure the ethernet is working and identified by the OS?
[17:27] <zerick> Hi guys, i have the following problem after running apt-get update http://paste.debian.net/248719/
[17:27] <fidel> Allard: if your question isnot answered inhere it is either really really special - or you arent asking in a perfect manner. Please dont get that wrong ;). and no - canonical doesnt support a free-expert chat
[17:28] <fidel> xbrian: good luck ;)
[17:28] <Calgarym25> avid_fan...not sure what you mean
[17:28] <Allard> so can anyone tell me how to change the icon at least on the dock maybe that will fix it?
[17:29] <riccardo_> hi there i've upgraded to the last ubuntu from the update center but when he ask me to reboot i've done it and no mouse was detected, i tried to plug anothe usb mouse to anothe usb port without success, now i'm using the previous version about it any idea?
[17:29] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: First, are you certain that the hardware is functioning properly? Are you able to get to work with another OS or live CD?
[17:29] <fidel> !details > Allard
[17:29] <djathoris> Allard, try writing down the desktop settings for one of the icons that works on first click,and use some part of those
[17:30] <CiSense> hi - wubi 32bit 12.10 installation under XP SP3 hangs after rebooting during "copy files" (i7 2600/Intel DH67BL/HD 6870)
[17:30] <Allard> how do I do this djathoris?
[17:30] <fidel> Allard: if you think that this app has a bug - consider using ubuntu-bug to report it
[17:31] <Allard> I reported it already
[17:31] <Allard> a few seconds ago
[17:31] <Calgarym25> avid_fan yes it works with windows on another machine, and it did not work with windows on my machine with dual boot
[17:31] <Allard> https://bugs.launchpad.net/artha/+bug/1167471
[17:31] <djathoris> fidel, it wasn't a bug, it's just set so that Allard needs to click twice on the icon instead of once
[17:31] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Second, does a "ifconfig -a
[17:31] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Oops.
[17:31] <Allard> but how do I change that djathoris
[17:32] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Second, does a "ifconfig -a" return an entry for eth0?
[17:32] <john_doe_jr> I need to install ibx11-dev in lucid…how do I do that?
[17:32] <Allard> can you show me a command or something
[17:32] <Calgarym25> avid_fan:  here is the output--Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:8c:08:8b:ea
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           inet6 addr: fe80::224:8cff:fe08:8bea/64 Scope:Link
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           RX packets:3965 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           TX packets:132 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[17:32] <Calgarym25>           RX bytes:260126 (260.1 KB)  TX bytes:30681 (30.6 KB)
[17:32] <FloodBot1> Calgarym25: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <john_doe_jr> sorry *libx11-dev
[17:33] <trism> john_doe_jr: sudo apt-get install libx11-dev;
[17:34] <john_doe_jr> trism: I keep getting the error message, "ERROR: Xext not found"
[17:34] <evilkid> Hello, as i said before im trying to install the nVida drivers on my ubuntu 10.04, but everytime i try to install i get this error : http://pastebin.com/jDfhDqLt, i tried jockey but it didnt detect any driver
[17:34] <fego> !info djathoris
[17:34] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Looks like it's being discovered and whatever necessary module is being loaded, but you're not getting an IP address.
[17:34] <Allard> now that I have started it and quit it it starts from first click but after I reboot it starts again from second click
[17:34] <john_doe_jr> trism: any idea why I'm getting this error message?
[17:35] <djathoris> Allard, try right clicking on the icon for it
[17:35] <Calgarym25> avid_fan hmmm I am at a loss here
[17:35] <riccardo_> hi there i've upgraded to the last ubuntu from the update center but when he ask me to reboot i've done it and no mouse was detected, i tried to plug anothe usb mouse to anothe usb port without success, now i'm using the previous version about it any idea?
[17:35] <Allard> but right click on the dock show me the following options: 1.Artha/to start it/ 2.Unlock from Launcher 3. Quit
[17:36] <djathoris> wow, I don't exist in quantal :)
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> john_doe_jr, check that this is what you really need. http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-10.04/ubuntu-main-i386/libx11-dev_1.3.2-1ubuntu3_i386.deb.html
[17:36] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: What about the output of "sudo mii-tool"?
[17:36] <trism> john_doe_jr: Xext is a different lib: sudo apt-get install libxext-dev;
[17:36] <riccardo_> any suggest please
[17:36] <Allard> djarthoris did you read what I said
[17:37] <riccardo_> Allard, please could you help me?
[17:37] <Allard> with what riccardo_
[17:37] <Calgarym25> avid_fan: eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok, eth1 no link
[17:37] <riccardo_> Allard, hi there i've upgraded to the last ubuntu from the update center but when he ask me to reboot i've done it and no mouse was detected, i tried to plug anothe usb mouse to anothe usb port without success, now i'm using the previous version about it any idea?
[17:37] <orangey> hello all
[17:37] <orangey> for some reason java stopped working a couple of months ago, despite iced-tea being installed.
[17:37] <Allard> oh I am no expert riccardo_ sorry
[17:37] <orangey> did all java plugins get disabled or something?
[17:38] <riccardo_> Allard, ok thanks anyway
[17:38] <Allard> sure
[17:38] <orangey> it doesn't even show up in about:plugins anymore.
[17:38] <orangey> about: plugins , that is
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> riccardo_, Have some patience and wait for help asking for help without be addressed first is considered rude by some and a bad practice.
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> being*
[17:39] <riccardo_> wilee-nilee, ok i will wait
[17:39] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Again, looks like the interface is physically up and functioning, but it's not getting an IP address. You could try giving it a static via Network manager, or disabling an re-enabling networking in general, also via Network manager. I'd give you a step-by-step but I don't have that in front of me at the moment.
[17:39] <Calgarym25> avid_fan, would google work?
[17:40] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: I would think so, yes.
[17:40] <CiSense> can 12.10 be installed on any partition under XP from a live USB?
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, under xp? you mean as a dualboot?
[17:41] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:41] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, i have an empty partition
[17:42] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, You can dualboot yes just keep the XP on the front of the disk, and be sure you do not break the 4 primary partition limit on one HD, ubuntu installs make two partitions at the least unless you manual install.
[17:43] <Calgarym25> avid_fan:where is Network Manager? I can only find network connections, network, network tools and system monitor in dash-home
[17:43] <orangey> for java, all I need is icedtea-plugin?
[17:44] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, oh i already have 8 partitions on this 2TB disk
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, Is it a gpt?
[17:44] <avid_fan> Calgarym25: Again, sorry I don't have my linux machine in front of me at the moment. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager should give you something. I know it to be one of the icons on the statusbar.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> Calgarym25  try nm-applet
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, A gpt or you have a extended on there?
[17:45] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, unsure .. checking
[17:46] <Calgarym25> MokeyDust: Output: ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, Are you running W8?
[17:47] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, XP SP3
[17:48] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, disk management says NTFS system partition + 7 other basic NTFS partitions
[17:49] <Silic0n> !8ball Can I be op?
[17:49] <KAaSI-BOT> Try asking me later.
[17:50] <Pici> Silic0n: Please take your bot out of this channel.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, You might check with the ##windows channel to make sure you know exactly that partitioning setup.
[17:50] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, k
[17:51] <isuru> hello how can i chat
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, Yuu can dualboot most likely unless that disk is dynamic.
[17:51] <wilee-nilee> you*
[17:52] <isuru> I have dualboot system
[17:52] <bazhang> isuru, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:52] <isuru> yes
[17:53] <orangey> hmmm. Any thoughts on how to enable java on ubuntu? I've installed all the relevant packages, but it doesn't appear in about: plugins
[17:53] <isuru> what is best download manager for ubuntu?
[17:54] <bazhang> !info aria2
[17:54] <bazhang> isuru, ^
[17:54] <isuru> orangey go to your terminal and type java --version
[17:54] <magesing> Hi everyone, When I am creating users who already have /home directories from a previous installation is it better to do useradd manually from the terminal or to use settings->users to add accounts?
[17:54] <isuru> aria2 is command line base i want GUI base one
[17:55] <isuru> Thank for your support ubottu
[17:55] <isuru> i found KGet
[17:56] <orangey> isuru: http://pastebin.com/KBQ3X21V
[17:56] <orangey> --version doesn't work. -version does.
[17:57] <preyalone> Does Ubuntu Server come with memtest on the livecd?
[17:57] <tgm4883> ubuntu server doesn't have a live cd
[17:59] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, when i boot 12.10 from a live usb and "install ubuntu" it seems to want to install alongside XP . i see the advanced option lets me see all the partition do i just select the one i want and continue?
[17:59] <orangey> isuru: any thoughts?
[17:59] <isuru> sorry it just a printing miss take :D
[18:00] <isuru> you install java and what you want
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, I am hesitant to advise you without knowing exactly why you have 8 ntfs partitions, a single msdod formatted HD only allows 4 any more will make it dynamic unless you have a extended as one and 3 primaries.
[18:02] <jlund> Where can I get the latest beta of Ubuntu Phone, or has there only been one release so far?
[18:02] <Pici> !touch | jlund
[18:03] <jlund> Pici: Thanks
[18:04] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, i am hesitant too that's why I am here :)  During the XP installation I created all the patitions with the standard partition tool thinking that one could be used for linux later, it's 127GB and empty
[18:05] <mob001> Hi, how to configure the apache-tomcat-7.0.39 in production server  realtime... pls help on this...
[18:06] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, i've also tried to make a wubi install into that partition but it hangs after reboot during copying files
[18:06] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, You might have someone look at it just to be sure you know and understand what you have and the strengths and limitations of your setup.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, A wubi is just a file, it would go in C in installable, it is not a partitioned install.
[18:07] <wilee-nilee> or what ever the main OS letter is
[18:08] <reggie_> hey folks can anyone help with grub config
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> and wubi will no longer be integrated in 13.04
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> s/installation
[18:08] <savid> Anyone know how I would do this ipfw rule using UFW?  "sudo ipfw add reject src-ip 173.194.55.0/24 in"  UFW seems to require a port.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> true that
[18:08] <usuario_> oi
[18:08] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, wubi asks for the installation drive and offers all eight paritions
[18:08] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Oh, so they decided to extinct it?
[18:08] <usuario_> hey
[18:08] <MonkeyDust> bekks  yes
[18:09] <usuario_> oi
[18:09] <usuario_> hey
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> usuario_  did you have a question?
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> CiSense, I never use wubi, so again without knowing your actual setup it is moot. ;)
[18:09] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Today is a good day :)
[18:09] <DJones> usuario_: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[18:09] <CiSense> wilee-nilee, ok thanks for helping
[18:11] <Ziber> Is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle between the desktop and open windows, on 12.04?
[18:11] <IsmAvatar> I must be missing something here, but when I go to a file properties > open with, the options are nothing like the right click > open with selections
[18:12] <bazhang> Ziber, using gnome-shell its alt-tab there are other extensions at the gnome extensions site as well
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> Ziber, alt-tab
[18:12] <Ziber> Any equivalent like windows key + d on windows?
[18:12] <isuru> Wubi will out in 13.04 ubuntu :D
[18:13] <pizz> hi
[18:14] <pizz> how i could proxy ftp to send data? thanks
[18:16] <isuru> clr+alt+down arrow key sometime equal to window+d
[18:17] <James_m> Hi
[18:17] <James_m> I can't print documents (though I could do it earlier)
[18:18] <James_m> When I tell my printer to print a document then Document is marked as "Pending" or "Held", time submitted "Unknown" in Printer Status
[18:19] <James_m> What should I do?
[18:23] <SteveH_> Can anyone suggest a troubleshooting protocol to figure out why my laptop's headphone jack is dead under 12.04, but works under Win7?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, You have accessed sound settings?
[18:25] <ChogyDan> SteveH_: try a later version, play with sound settings
[18:28] <irssimajor> hi, how can I test if I have ACLs enabled?
[18:30] <tgm4883> irssimajor, you would use getfacl
[18:30] <SteveH_> wilee-nilee & chogydan: I checked sount settings, but see nothing that speaks about headphone jack.
[18:31] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, http://imagebin.org/253496
[18:37] <sharif> help me ubuntu 13.04 release date time
[18:37] <bazhang> sharif, #ubuntu+1 for raring discussion
[18:37] <reggie_> hey folks can anyone help with grub configuration change
[18:37] <DJones> !schedule > sharif
[18:38] <bazhang> reggie_, whats the exact issue
[18:38] <cyberpelopo> hello
[18:38] <jcrza> Hey guys.. I'm on 12.10 server (I think) and I have a relatively new chipset which Ubuntu doesn't include Ethernet drivers for. I managed to get the drivers and make them, and modprobe alx then dhclient eth0, which gives me an IP address and connectivity, but each time I restart I have to repeat these steps to get online. How can I get Ubuntu to have the driver activate by default?
[18:38] <reggie_> okay installed another Ubuntu clone next to linux mint KDE and for some reason grub is not seeing the new installation
[18:39] <reggie_> bazhang thanks for the help
[18:39] <bazhang> reggie_, which clonse is that,
[18:39] <bazhang> err clone
[18:39] <reggie_> cylon linux 12.04
[18:39] <widad> plz need help when i download something in the ubuntu repository it stuck in the first one but doesn't get insstaled. i just did the installation on ubuntu studio. plz help
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> reggie_  contact the cylon people or support
[18:39] <reggie_> bazhang: is there a gui tool to configure Grub?
[18:40] <bazhang> reggie_, neither is supported here, no idea if the ubuntu wiki for those is applicable or not
[18:40] <bazhang> widad, stuck in the first one? what is one
[18:40] <reggie_> ohh okay I understand well thanks for listening, it's appreciated
[18:40] <SteveH_> wilee-nilee:  What version of Ubuntu are you running?  My stated 12.04 doesn't the same output.
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, 12.04 I'm on gnome 3 what desktop are you running?
[18:42] <jcrza> I have a relatively new chipset which Ubuntu doesn't include Ethernet drivers for. I managed to get the drivers and make them, and modprobe alx then dhclient eth0, which gives me an IP address and connectivity, but each time I restart I have to repeat these steps to get online. How can I get Ubuntu to have the driver activate by default?
[18:42] <SteveH_> wilee-nilee: Not sure what desktop.  How can I tell?
[18:42] <widad> plz need help when i download something in the ubuntu repository it stuck in the first installation but doesn't get insstaled. i just did the installation on ubuntu studio. plz help
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, Do you have a panel on the left that appears and disappears, that is the unity desktop.
[18:43] <SteveH_> wilee-nilee: Yes, I do.
[18:44] <widad> plz need help when i download something in the ubuntu repository it stuck in the first installation but doesn't get insstaled. i just did the installation on ubuntu studio. plz help
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, I thought the sound settings look the same, it has been awhile since I used unity, post a screen shot of your sound settings.
[18:45] <jcrza> Can anyone help with my NIC woes?
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | SteveH_
[18:45] <jcrza> I just need to know how to permanently apply a driver
[18:45] <avid_fan> jcrza: I believe you'll need to copy the module you created to '/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net' and then add the module name 'alx' to /etc/modules.
[18:46] <avid_fan> jcrza: Then when you boot it should load it automagically.
[18:46] <widad> [18:46] <jcrza> avid_fan: Nice. I'm not too familiar with all of this, where's the module I created?
[18:46] <Ben64> !patience | widad
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> !details > widad
[18:47] <avid_fan> jcrza: Well when you compiled the module, did it ask you to "install" it?
[18:47] <bazhang> widad, what is the "first installation"
[18:47] <jcrza> avid_fan: I did make then sudo make install, it didn't ask anything
[18:47] <jcrza> then I just sudo modprobe alx and dhclient eth0
[18:47] <SteveH_> Wilee-nilee: see <http://imagebin.org/253499>
[18:48] <poee> is there a command to find out which app is accessing how much bandwidth
[18:48] <johnjohn101> is the broadcom b43 supported any more? i am using the jockey program to install the driver after reloading 12.04.02 for a broken system and now getting a complete core dump after the process starts
[18:48] <avid_fan> jcrza: Ok, then it may be that the install put the module/file in the right place. You should just need to modify the '/etc/modules' file to include your module.
[18:49] <bazhang> widad, answer in the channel and not via PM please
[18:50] <widad> bazhang, ok i'll do thanks the first application i want to install
[18:50] <bazhang> widad, please pastebin the results of sudo apt-get update
[18:51] <bazhang> !paste | widad
[18:51] <jcrza> avid_fan: I rebooted after adding alx as a line to that file. eth0 wasn't connected by default, I still had do modprobe alx and dhclient eth0
[18:51] <SteveH_> 	Wilee-nilee: BTW, the problem was there BEFORE I installed Jack.
[18:52] <widad> bazhang, E: Impossible d'obtenir le verrou /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Ressource temporairement non disponible)
[18:52] <widad> E: Impossible de verrouiller le répertoire d'administration (/var/lib/dpkg/). Il est possible qu'un autre processus l'utilise.
[18:52] <widad> widad@widad-ThinkPad-T520:~$
[18:52] <widad> bazhang, wait i'll translate
[18:52] <bazhang> widad, do you have another package manager open?
[18:53] <widad> bazhang, yes but it's not moving. it is not getting installed or anything
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, Sorry I know nothing about jack.
[18:54] <avid_fan> jcrza: Hmmm? What do you see with a 'dmesg | grep atx'?
[18:54] <bazhang> widad, you can only use at a time. close down the others, let this one finish then try again
[18:54] <jcrza> avid_fan: nothin'
[18:54] <SteveH_> Wilee-nilee: That's why I said that it was not a party to the problem.
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> SteveH_, Right but it looks to me that Jack has changed that gui possibly, not sure though, as I have not used unity for awhile.
[18:56] <widad> bazhang, it doesn't cancel
[18:56] <bazhang> widad, what doesnt cancel
[18:56] <widad> the paquage
[18:56] <widad> the software
[18:57] <widad> i'm installing
[18:57] <widad> bazhang, the software i'm installing
[18:57] <bazhang> widad, what software is that
[18:57] <widad> eclipse
[18:57] <bazhang> widad, via apt-get ?
[18:58] <widad> no via the reprository
[18:58] <sharif> ubuntu 12.4.2 long time support
[18:58] <widad> bazhang, no via the reprository
[18:58] <bazhang> widad, so the software center
[18:58] <Quest> is there a biomatix thum impression hardware for attendance that can run on linux (and cannot be tampered by photo copied thumb prints on papers) . I need a good one, by which I can manipulate / use its database (where attendance record is present)  to make another application by which records may be viewed on a website?
[18:58] <avid_fan> jcrza: Ok, what about the results of 'find /lib/modules -iname "atx"'?
[18:58] <bazhang> sharif, did you have an actual question about that?
[18:58] <widad> yes
[18:58] <widad> bazhang, yes
[18:59] <jcrza> avid_fan: returns nothing
[18:59] <jcrza> modprobe --list |grep alx returned update/drivers/net/Ethernet/Atheros/alx/alx.ko though
[18:59] <stercor> I'm wish to chown files from root (as root) to my user:group. chown won't let me.  The message: "Operation not permitted."
[19:00] <widad> bazhang, what is the probleme in my ubuntu?
[19:00] <llutz> stercor: sudo chown
[19:00] <widad> bazhang, what is the problem in my ubuntu?
[19:00] <shantanoo> hi, i have asus k-series laptop. amd a8, raedon hd 7640g display card. when i boot using ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04, i get blank sreen
[19:00] <timido> stercor, man chmod
[19:00] <stercor> llutz: I'm doing this as root. # prompt
[19:00] <shantanoo> seems like the display card is not supported properly
[19:00] <llutz> stercor: files are on ntfs/vfat? then use mountoptions (uid,gid,umask)
[19:00] <bazhang> widad, sounds like the repository is slow to respond, how long have you been waiting
[19:00] <shantanoo> any workaroud?
[19:01] <stercor> timido: I did.
[19:01] <SteveH_> stercor: look at chgrp
[19:01] <bazhang> shantanoo, using nomodeset?
[19:01] <stercor> SteveH_: Good idea.
[19:01] <Bitwich> join #bitcoin
[19:01] <bazhang> !nomodeset | shantanoo
[19:01] <shantanoo> bazhang: not sure what it is. how do i use that?
[19:02] <Bitwich> join #bitcoin - we are aiming for 2,000 users... currently at 1,975
[19:02] <bazhang> Bitwich, stop that
[19:02] <widad> bazhang, for the previews install 15min i think it's just an approximation
[19:02] <stercor> SteveH_: same thing.
[19:02] <llutz> stercor: chown/chmod only work on unix-filesystems
[19:02] <shantanoo> ubottu: checking
[19:03] <stercor> llutz: I'm on Ubuntu; it's worked before, but I probably didn't have root as user:group.
[19:03] <llutz> stercor: you don't make sense.
[19:03] <shantanoo> brb. need to reboot.
[19:03] <llutz> stercor: the files you want to change are on a linux-fs like ext4?
[19:04] <stercor> llutz: How
[19:04] <stercor> llutz: They are ext4
[19:04] <jcrza> I just put modprobe alx and dhclient eth0 in rc.local, maybe that wil lwork
[19:06] <chunkyhead> guys i've recorded audio using default recorder but it's too low, how to increase it? (my speakers are full) any way to enhance it
[19:06] <bobbyz> stercor: use 'lsattr' on the files and make sure you don't see the 'i' (immutable) bit
[19:06] <chunkyhead> i'm gonna be sending a video basically and it's a long video so i dont wanna redo the whole thing pls hep
[19:06] <chunkyhead> help*
[19:07] <bobbyz> stercor: If you see the 'i' bit, use 'sudo chattr -i <file>' and then chown/chgrp it.  Also make sure the mountpoint isn't mounted readonly
[19:07] <avid_fan> jcrza: Using Network Manager to initialize the wireless?
[19:07] <jcrza> avid_fan: I got it to work :) I just put modprobe alx and dhclient eth0 in rc.local so it happens ever boot
[19:07] <jcrza> I guess it's better than nothing
[19:07] <jcrza> maybe one day Ubuntu will include drivers for this thingy by default.
[19:07] <avid_fan> jcrza: Yeah, I was just typing that...
[19:08] <jcrza> I'm in Ubuntu server so no network manager for me, if you're talking about a gui thing.
[19:08] <widad> bazhang, any help?
[19:08] <avid_fan> jcrza: When you rebooted, did you check to see if the module was loaded before the manual 'modprobe alx'?
[19:09] <jcrza> avid_fan: No I didn't, I don't know enough to :P
[19:09] <jcrza> I barely know what I'm doing now
[19:09] <jcrza> I just learned what blah | grep something did :D
[19:09] <jcrza> that pipe is neat, chaining commands
[19:09] <avid_fan> jcrza: Because it might have been loaded and you just need to modify '/etc/network/interfaces' to have it bring up the interface automagically.
[19:09] <bazhang> widad, well you need to either let the current install time out, or force stop it
[19:10] <widad> bazhang, how can i force stop it
[19:10] <avid_fan> jcrza: Oh, bash one-liners are my favorite.
[19:10] <bazhang> widad, what part of the process is it on currently? has is finished downloading, and is now configuring?
[19:10] <widad> no it's not downloading yet
[19:11] <widad> bazhang, no it's not downloading yet
[19:12] <bazhang> widad, what about using xkill ; open a terminal , type xkill , then put the X cursor on software center
[19:12] <widad> what will xkill do?
[19:12] <bazhang> widad, just what it says
[19:13] <avid_fan> jcrza: I'm not sure what device is created by loading the module, but you might also solve your issue, assuming the module is loading, by adding something like 'auto wlan0' and 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'.
[19:13] <medeman> Hey there, I still have a problem with my SD card reader not being detected in Ubuntu (device: Acer Aspire One 756). I chatted with you guys here already and the only real suggestion was to update the BIOS. So I cloned my HDD, installed Windows (only way to update that BIOS sadly), and cloned back after that to get Ubuntu back. The SD card reader still won't work (well it does when I connect an Ethernet cable). So, any other ideas?
[19:13] <jcrza> nice, I'll try it
[19:13] <avid_fan> jcrza: Up to you if you wanna reboot to see if the module is loading.
[19:13] <jcrza> Another question, it's not very Ubuntu-y, but does anyone know a good dynamic dns service that allows multiple domains to be pointed at one dynamic IP?
[19:14] <avid_fan> jcrza: Goog luck.
[19:14] <widad> bazhang, it did not kill it
[19:14] <t3hb055nueb> what is the command line to show the Pc's specs?
[19:14] <bekks> t3hb055nueb: Which specs?
[19:15] <avid_fan> jcrza: Don't know. I only use one, and only one domain.
[19:15] <t3hb055nueb> ram, hardrive space, processor
[19:16] <widad> bazhang, it did not kill anything
[19:18] <widad_> bazhang, sorry i went out
[19:21] <t3hb055nueb> bekks: the Ram, Cpu, Hdrive space etc etc
[19:21] <bekks> t3hb055nueb: free -m; cat /proc/cpuinfo; df -h; lshw; lspci; lsusb; etcetcetc
[19:22] <bazhang> t3hb055nueb, sudo lshw
[19:22] <bazhang> t3hb055nueb, for ram dmidecode
[19:22] <medeman> Hmm, guess the guys from yesterday aren't here now to help me...Anyone else?
[19:23] <bekks> medeman: Regarding which problem?
[19:23] <Peyam> Hi
[19:23] <medeman> bekks: I described it above.
[19:23] <Peyam> I can't install anything via software-center
[19:23] <Peyam> Does anyone know why
[19:24] <dwat3r> Peyam: Be more specific,please
[19:25] <goo> Hey. I have an iPad, and I need to get a file out from an app that only supports "iTunes File Sharing" - how can I get to that data in Ubuntu?
[19:26] <medeman> bekks: (quote) "Hey there, I still have a problem with my SD card reader not being detected in Ubuntu (device: Acer Aspire One 756). I chatted with you guys here already and the only real suggestion was to update the BIOS. So I cloned my HDD, installed Windows (only way to update that BIOS sadly), and cloned back after that to get Ubuntu back. The SD card reader still won't work (well it does when I connect an Ethernet cable). So, an
[19:26] <jcrza> Can anyone recommend a dynamic dns service for multiple domains?
[19:27] <Peyam> dwat3r: I can't instal anythin. when I choose something from software-center to install. it shows "appying changing" but nothing happens. When I run sudo apt-get update && upgrade it says at the end upgrade: command not found
[19:27] <OerHeks> medeman, when i search "ntu sd card reader Acer Aspire One 756" i read a lot about your hardware issue
[19:27] <medeman> OerHeks: Yeah, and the only suggestion I found so far was updating the BIOS, and I did that, but it didn't help...
[19:28] <fisher> Could someone help me figure out my issue with JACK? I believe it is something to do with my video card, which supports HDMI, but I'm not sure anymore and I don't really know wht to make of the error messages in Qjackctl
[19:29] <OerHeks> medeman, sctually, when i search "linux sd card reader Acer Aspire One 756" it is not a ubuntu issue, but a linux driver issue.
[19:29] <OerHeks> *actually
[19:29] <fisher> my JACK server wont start up and my Mic wont work
[19:29] <avid_fan> medeman: It's not being detected at all, or you're not able to use the reader? I have an issue where my reader is "discovered", as in I see it in a dmesg output, but whenever I try plugging my SD card into it I get no joy.
[19:29] <medeman> OerHeks: Hmm okay...
[19:29] <OerHeks> medeman, you might want to make a bug report, as you can use it with ethernet cable attached?
[19:30] <medeman> avid_fan: Well, dmesg throws a lot of "mmc0: Timeout waiting for hardware interrupt." errors.
[19:30] <medeman> OerHeks: Hmm maybe, but I read a bug report of that already
[19:32] <OerHeks> medeman, oe, then the only thing you can do, is confirming that bugreport
[19:33] <medeman> OerHeks: Hmm okay, so I gotta find it again...
[19:36] <medeman> OerHeks, avid_fan : Thanks for your help anyways...Guess I just have to wait until the bug is fixed (if it ever is)
[19:37] <fisher> Could someone help me figure out my issue with JACK? I believe it is something to do with my video card, which supports HDMI, but I'm not sure anymore and I don't really know what to make of the error messages in Qjackctl. my JACK server wont start up and my Mic wont work
[19:38] <fisher> Been working on this for hours now
[19:45] <pinPoint> what causes an app installed via apt-get not show up in /etc/init.d for startup
[19:45] <dr_willis> pinPoint: what service!
[19:45] <pinPoint> sabnzbdplus
[19:46] <dr_willis> hmm. if its ran by upstart look in /etc/init/
[19:46] <zavorra89> ciao
[19:46] <zavorra89> !list
[19:46] <dr_willis> !upstart
[19:47] <dr_willis> zavorra89:  you list  every channel!
[19:47] <dr_willis> ?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> listalians
[19:47] <dr_willis> still not sure why.
[19:47] <pinPoint> dr_willis: i have to run it manually
[19:47] <FrostEyes> Hi. Just a quick question. I have a problem with porting sone thirdparty code to LTS 12.04
[19:48] <FrostEyes> sys/types.h and stdint.h is conflicting
[19:48] <dr_willis> pinPoint:  it came from the standard reppos?
[19:48] <FrostEyes> e.g. /usr/include/stdint.h(93): error: invalid redeclaration of type name "int16_t" (declared at line 196 of "/usr/include/sys/types.h")
[19:49] <pinPoint> yes. i think so
[19:49] <pinPoint> maybe i added a ppa somewhere not sure
[19:49] <dr_willis> pinPoint: sounds like they dident package a init script with it
[19:51] <pinPoint> yeah
[19:56] <Martinjo84> anyone know if there is support for Lenovo docking station and more screens ? google dosent give much answear
[20:01] <hidn_shadows> Hey, two questions. One, how would one suggest I delete some very large files that got lost on the way to the trash bin, and are there any guides/lists that one would suggest for a list of onboard programs when one is working with the CLI interface?
[20:02] <atrius> so i just added a new upstart job in /etc/init and for some reason the system keep saying "unknown job" whenever i try and do anything with it
[20:02] <atrius> nm.. figured it out
[20:03] <avid_fan> hidn_shadows: "lost on the way to the trash bin"?
[20:03] <pinPoint> dr_willis: what is an upstart?
[20:03] <Raccoon> If anyone is interested in something Very Cool, type:  /list >1000
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> hidn_shadows, Is this a root delete?
[20:03] <Raccoon> #ubuntu is, for the first time in 8 years, no longer the #1 channel on freenode! :)
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> hidn_shadows, Or did you tick bypass trash
[20:04] <johnjohn101> what is the #1 channel now?
[20:04] <Utilisateur> I'm lost, C'est où la partie FR ? Quel serveur ?, tuto ?
[20:04] <OerHeks> Raccoon ubuntu still is a support channel, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat
[20:04] <hidn_shadows> avid_fan, Yeah. I deleted old user accounts after I upgraded to 12.04, and somehow it didn't actually delete them, so I have 40 unaccounted gbs. wilee-nilee yeah it was root
[20:04] <OerHeks> !fr
[20:05] <avid_fan> hidn_shadows: So the old home directories still exist?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> hidn_shadows, It is root trash most likely, I don't know the process from there.
[20:05] <Utilisateur>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:06] <hidn_shadows> wilee-nilee, If I open the trash bin in root, it hangs and doesn't do a lot of anything. Would a folder do this if it's like 20+ gb?
[20:06] <hidn_shadows> wilee-nilee, Make it hang, I mean
[20:06] <SamGamgee76> ciao
[20:06] <Utilisateur> Ok, ty ++
[20:07] <megha> graphical interface for git ?
[20:08] <hidn_shadows> wilee-nilee, And it'll also display "Could not display the contents of trash: Operation not supported.
[20:08] <jdguzman> hello all I'm having a strange issue using dual monitors with intel hd4000 graphics
[20:08] <jdguzman> one monitor looks fine but on the other it seems like the colors go down to 8bit or some such
[20:09] <bogor> I have a external USB HDD. How do i make it always mount at /media as ext_hdd ?
[20:10] <avid_fan> hidn_shadows: If something like that happened to me, I'd boot with a rescue or live CD and fsck the filesystem before trying anything else.
[20:10] <hidn_shadows> Speaking of which, what all does fscking a mounted filesystem do? Like, to what extent does it cause damage?
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> hidn_shadows, YOu have to get to it through a command line I suspect, I know nothing more.
[20:11] <hidn_shadows> Alright, thanks wilee-nilee
[20:12] <Pbwizkid> hello all
[20:13] <avid_fan> bogor: I did that some time ago. I don't recall the exact method/process, but what I do remember was extracting the drive's UUID and making an entry in fstab defining the "static" location to mount.
[20:14] <BlackoutIsHere> Why are there 3 flood bots?
[20:14] <bogor> avid_fan: My searches on google indicate i have write some udev rules. But it seems complex
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> hidn_shadows, I do see info though for a gui option is bleachbit which has a root run that has trash listed in system, be careful though. https://turriebuntu.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/bleachbit.png
[20:15] <leontopod> how do I get to a shell in ubuntu unity?
[20:15] <avid_fan> bogor: A quick Google produced this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-finding-using-uuids-to-update-fstab/ .
[20:15] <hidn_shadows> I ran sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/* in the root terminal, it paused for 3 minutes and posted a fresh command line. It's still hanging on the nautilus trash folder though
[20:16] <i0x3p710n> hello i upgraded to firefox v20 and it seems that it always starts in offline mode does anyone have a clue?
[20:16] <t3hb055nueb> is there a channel for making bots?
[20:16] <avid_fan> bogor: You attach the device, and extract the UUID with 'sudo blkid'. Then add the entry to /etc/fstab.
[20:17] <Segnale007_> anyone knows a pretty good and effective password cracking dictionary to use alongside with aircrack and cowputty ?
[20:17] <avid_fan> bogor: Sorry, I think I might have misunderstood. That would allow you to attach the same device to the same location, but it sounds like you want all USB drives to attach to the same dir.
[20:18] <bogor> Thanks avid_fan
[20:18] <i0x3p710n> Segnale007_: ask at #offsec or #backtrack-linux
[20:18] <vifanq> Hi. Aptitude reports some >100 package affecting solutions. It's because I was removing desktop stuff. How can I check which package is the root cause now, i.e. which package wants to pull ~100 packages back?
[20:18] <tgm4883> bogor, yea you would want a udev rule for that
[20:18] <Segnale007_> thanks i0x3p710n
[20:18] <gustav__> Firefox locking up due to nVidia module or the...thing.
[20:19] <meLon> I cannot get a program using libao to open a soundcard when /etc/libao.conf is set to pulse.  It will only work if libao.conf is set to alsa.  I want to use pulse.  Any suggestions?
[20:19] <avid_fan> bogor: So, yeah, if you always want any USB drive to get mounted to the same location, yeah you'd probably have to go down the udev rule path.
[20:19] <JoshDreamland> Ubuntu runs my system really hot. I mean, 80C, hot. All the time.
[20:19] <bogor> avid_fan: I didnt mean all usb devices to same dir. I meant same usb devies to the name mount point of the name i specify
[20:19] <gustav__> Bumblebee. Argh.
[20:19] <JoshDreamland> It also doesn't like my graphics card, at all.
[20:19] <gustav__> JoshDreamland: Here as well.
[20:19] <bogor> So fstab with uuid should do the trick
[20:19] <gustav__> And I got Ubuntu with my computer.
[20:19] <JoshDreamland> gustav__: nvidia optimus?
[20:19] <gustav__> Also Firefox rarely works.
[20:19] <avid_fan> bogor: Yep.
[20:19] <gustav__> JoshDreamland: Yes.
[20:19] <JoshDreamland> amazing
[20:20] <leontopod> I guess
[20:20] <leontopod> where is the program launcher?
[20:20] <JoshDreamland> Same story here. It's like it really wants to work, but it just keeps griping about GPU hangs.
[20:20] <gustav__> JoshDreamland: Yeah.
[20:20] <JoshDreamland> and then the error reporter comes up, and it dies, too
[20:20] <gustav__> Then reboot.
[20:20] <JoshDreamland> but not before spawning two more error reporters
[20:20] <tgm4883> bogor, so just inside of /media?
[20:21] <gustav__> And after a while it's back.
[20:21] <gustav__> I've burned the skin off my leg.
[20:21] <gustav__> Because of the heat.
[20:21] <JoshDreamland> O_o
[20:21] <JoshDreamland> That's pretty frightening
[20:21] <gustav__> JoshDreamland: No pain no gain, eh.
[20:21] <JoshDreamland> I take it no one here had any advice?
[20:22]  * Mrblue -- Meet the GooBot #goo --
[20:22] <Rounin> Hello! I can't seem to find an alternate install CD for the newest beta. I'd like to use encrypted LVM, but not on the entire disk; just one partition.
[20:22] <bogor> tgm4883: my external usb hdd should always mount at /media/ext_hdd.
[20:22] <DJones> Rounin: The alternate install cd doesn't exist anymore
[20:22] <Rounin> I've managed to manually create it using cryptsetup and partman and rebooting a zillion times, but when I open the installer again, it crashes
[20:22] <tgm4883> bogor, ok, and what about your USB flash drive?
[20:23] <bogor> tgm4883: I will let my automounter to decide.
[20:23] <hidn_shadows> Hey, if I boot using a 10.04 boot disc, and I have 12.04 installed right now, to run fsck, would that cause problems?
[20:23] <Rounin> Then it seems that it's become impossible to install on encrypted LVM
[20:23] <Rounin> Unless one does it from scratch on the entire disk I mean
[20:23] <tgm4883> bogor, so you always want your external usb drive at /media/ext_hdd, but the flash drive can mount wherever?
[20:23] <Rounin> What about people who have existing partitions?
[20:23] <bogor> tgm4883: yup
[20:24] <JoshDreamland> Is Mir going to support NVidia Optimus?
[20:25] <bogor> tgm4883: if i have a entry in fstab , will that stop automounter from mounting it ?
[20:25] <DJones> Rounin: I've never used LVM, but does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/250293/manually-installing-ubuntu-12-10-with-lvm   Another suggestion might be to use the minimal install iso
[20:25] <tgm4883> bogor, fstab is the wrong place for it I believe, as that will try to mount it at boot even when it's not attached
[20:26] <tgm4883> bogor, have you tried http://askubuntu.com/a/2391/2159
[20:26] <SamGamgee76> list
[20:26] <SamGamgee76> #lkst
[20:26] <systemclient> how do I get the string 'quantal' or 'precise' on a ubuntu machine from a script?
[20:26] <Rounin> Manually installing doesn't seem like it'll work, DJones, since the installer hangs when I try to start it now, complaining that it can't open the encrypted device
[20:26] <tgm4883> systemclient, what kind of script
[20:27] <Rounin> This minimal install iso might work I suppose, but I couldn't find one
[20:27] <systemclient> tgm4883: Python, but I can call any Shell function
[20:27] <Mrblue> -Meet the gooBot #goo-
[20:27] <Rounin> Ah, now I see it
[20:27] <vifanq> Aptitude suggests ~100 installs. How to find ROOT CAUSE, i.e. the one or 2 packages that are pulling the 100 others - instead of installing the 100 others??
[20:27] <tgm4883> systemclient, have you tried the python module platform?
[20:27] <tgm4883> systemclient, http://docs.python.org/2/library/platform.html
[20:27] <tgm4883> systemclient, that is what I've used in the past I believe
[20:28] <systemclient> tgm4883: oh, that is perfect
[20:28] <OerHeks> !aptitude | vifanq
[20:29] <OerHeks> vifanq, use apt-get
[20:29] <tgm4883> vifanq, you were removing desktop stuff?
[20:29] <vifanq> OerHeks: I was removing gnome. So some packages might be left
[20:29] <vifanq> yes
[20:30] <tgm4883> vifanq, well removing a package isn't going to install a new package, so you might want to at least tell us what you are actually doing to get to that point
[20:30] <doubleX> hello ppl :D
[20:30] <vifanq> I think aptitude wants the "suggests" dependencies to be resolved. Some left gnome package suggests something, but how to find which one
[20:30] <tgm4883> vifanq, don't use aptitude?
[20:31] <Rounin> Hm... It just doesn't seem to work
[20:31] <vifanq> tgm4883: when I start aptitude, it shows the red bar with "Suggesting 100 instals", or "suggesting 100 keeps"
[20:31] <Rounin> Perhaps another reboot
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> vifanq  consider using apt-get
[20:31] <tgm4883> vifanq, ah, well in that case I would suggest not using aptitude
[20:31] <vifanq> when I browse the suggested packages, they all have dependencies about being suggested by some package
[20:31] <david_hm> excuse my utterly ignorance, but how can I join the hardware channel?
[20:31] <vifanq> I like aptitude.. If I remove some 1-2 gnome packages it will work OK
[20:32] <hidn_shadows> Can I use the 10.04 boot disc to run fsck on my 12.04 filesystem? are they compatible?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> vifanq, You leave out a lot of details, is this gnome 2 like in 10.04 or the gnome 3 underlayment of unity, or the gnome-shell.
[20:32] <OerHeks> vifanq, your complaint is it does not work oke.
[20:32] <systemclient> hidn_shadows: I assume they are just EXT4, which should work just fine
[20:32] <tgm4883> vifanq, relevant http://xkcd.com/1172/
[20:33] <mustafa> Hello, I have Ubuntu installed and I am trying to install Windows 8 alongside Ubuntu on a seperate partition for college reasons, when I try to install Windows 8 I get an error that it can't install on gpt disks. Any ideas?
[20:33] <vifanq> gosh.. Can apt-get tell me which package have the "recommends" dependencies unsatisfied?
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> vifanq, Here is a website with complete desktop file lists in playing around, be sure you are reading the correct release. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[20:34] <Korekame> vifanq, i think you need to use apt-cache show packagename
[20:34] <systemclient> mustafa: your partitions are created using the GUID Partition Scheme (gpt), not Master Boot Record (MBR)
[20:35] <systemclient> mustafa: so Windows only supports MBR (the old stuff) apparently, so you would need to reformat the whole disk and change it to MBR
[20:35] <tgm4883> vifanq, you probably want to check out rdepends
[20:35] <mustafa> systemclient: How can I create my partitions using MBR? I created the partition from the Ubuntu installation.
[20:35] <systemclient> mustafa: I'd just use VirtualBox if you do not have graphics intense applications and create a virutal machine for Windows
[20:36] <pagz> can someone please help me fix my /home premissions attempting to wget or touch a file results in error Permission denied
[20:36] <systemclient> mustafa: wipe the hole disk and reinstall ...
[20:36] <tgm4883> !info apt-rdepends | vifanq
[20:36] <ejv> pagz: man chown
[20:36] <systemclient> pagz: do `ls -l /home` and see to whom your which folder belongs
[20:36] <mustafa> OK, I have 100GB partition, can I use a tool to delete this partition and resize the home partition without deleting it's contents?
[20:36] <mustafa> systemclient: Sorry, forgot to tag you :-/
[20:37] <mustafa> systemclient: I mean add the 100GB partition I was saving for windows to linux
[20:37] <vifanq> tgm4883: thanks
[20:37] <systemclient> mustafa: nope. You need to wipe the whole disk if you plan on changing the partition scheme. You can `rsync -avhE` and rsync them back later on ... this is advanced though
[20:37] <Korekame> windows supports gpt on windows vista an newer, as well as windows XP 64-bit
[20:37] <systemclient> Korekame: okay, this does not make sense then, ...
[20:38] <ossix> hi guys
[20:38] <Korekame> however, I've found that windows doesn't format it's GPT correctly
[20:38] <Korekame> so make the partitions with linux
[20:38] <mustafa> systemclient: Will I lose anything if I use the old MBR layout?
[20:38] <ossix> you know my dell latitude d420 will run ubuntu 12.10?
[20:38] <systemclient> mustafa: your data, but it should be fine otherwise
[20:38] <Bitwit> hi
[20:38] <Korekame> if you're using a drive smaller than 2TB, I'd just use MBR
[20:39] <Bitwit> !xxx bit
[20:39] <Bitwit> !xxx bit
[20:39] <Bitwit> !xxx bit
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/1477296/a_bit_of_sucking_and_a_bit_of_fucking.html
[20:39] <FloodBot1> Bitwit: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/597488/little_bit_of_me_or_big_bit.html
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/1823787/a_bit_more..html
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/1477296/a_bit_of_sucking_and_a_bit_of_fucking.html
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/597488/little_bit_of_me_or_big_bit.html
[20:39] <goo[tool]> http://xhamster.com/movies/1823787/a_bit_more..html
[20:39] <FloodBot1> goo[tool]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:39] <mustafa> systemclient: So other than data, I wont lose anything. Like performance wise or anything?
[20:39] <Bitwit> !invite #freenode
[20:39] <Rounin> No, hm... With the installation media I have (kubuntu 13.04 beta 1 I think, on a USB stick), it just isn't possible to install on an existing encrypted LVM... The installer hangs
[20:40] <Rounin> And even if it were possibly, creating it manually without the help of the installer is really hard, of course, but at any rate one can't install
[20:40] <Korekame> if you're having problems with gpt and windows, I suggest reading this article --> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/gg463524.aspx
[20:40] <dwat3r> how can i customize notification-daemon?
[20:41] <Rounin> I wonder if it's possible to install with an encrypted device opened at all
[20:41] <Rounin> It seems like the installer hangs because it's trying to open the already open device
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 | Rounin
[20:41] <Rounin> Ah
[20:42] <ossix> hey guys is it possible to get the jolios desktop in ubuntu?
[20:42] <ossix> the jolidrive thingie
[20:42] <IdleOne> ossix: best to ask the jolios people
[20:42] <ossix> where to?
[20:43] <IdleOne> check there website. I don't know if they have an irc channel
[20:43] <IdleOne> their*
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> 2 people in #jolicloud
[20:45] <Quest>  is there a biomatix thum impression hardware for attendance that can run on linux (and cannot be tampered by photo copied thumb prints on papers) . I need a good one, by which I can manipulate / use its database (where attendance record is present)  to make another application by which records may be viewed on a website?
[20:46] <goosechaser> wow this was stupid
[20:46] <ossix> hey, is it possible to have a website (html 5) running under the ubuntu desktop (like a wallpaper)?
[20:46] <DJones> Quest: Thats not really an Ubuntu question, maybe ask in ##hardware
[20:47] <pepeppepe> Hello. I'm connecting through putty through SSH to my ubuntu server, and I run a command with &. When I close the session, the program CLOSES!!! How do I avoid this?
[20:47] <goosechaser> I finally learn that in order to run an irc server, you need to edit permissions and chown the log files with lowered permissions
[20:47] <fidel> pepeppepe: you could use 'screen
[20:47] <DJones> !screen | pepeppepe
[20:47] <goosechaser> why did linux have to use some weird 644
[20:47] <tgm4883> goosechaser, that doesn't sound right, but you haven't really said what you are doing
[20:48] <pepeppepe> fidel, why use screen if i can do & ?
[20:48] <johnjohn101> is b43 broadcom still supported in the new ubuntus?
[20:48] <tgm4883> goosechaser, something tells me you don't understand permissions
[20:48] <spacecow> shouldn't the regexp '<link .*>' return '<link .....>' solely, and not '<link ....><script..>'? or is it an ubuntu bug?
[20:48] <ossix> hey, is it possible to have a website (html 5) running under the ubuntu desktop (like a wallpaper)?
[20:48] <tgm4883> ossix, not that I'm aware of
[20:48] <goosechaser> tgm4883: correction, in order to run it more securely
[20:49] <tgm4883> goosechaser, well again, you haven't really said what the issue is, other than you had to add permissions in order to run it
[20:49] <ossix> could it be possible?
[20:50] <tgm4883> goosechaser, which really isn't saying much
[20:50] <ossix> i know xp can (not html5 but)
[20:50] <ossix> i am going 2 install ubuntu, so laters
[20:50] <goosechaser> I guess i'm not really asking for help sorry, I was just updating on old problem yesturday
[20:50] <tgm4883> ossix, I'm not seeing an equivilent of active desktop in ubuntu
[20:51] <johnjohn101> active desktop.  LOL.
[20:52] <tgm4883> goosechaser, fair enough, but we can't really answer your question about 644 since we don't know what you are doing (or did). I can tell you that A) default permissions (644 and whatever user it was set to) was most likely fine, and B) that it was probably set to that for a reason
[20:53] <goosechaser> well I installed an ircd and the default install locations for log files and config can only be written by root since it's owned by root
[20:53] <tgm4883> goosechaser, now it could be an improperly packaged program, but honestly it sounds like you don't understand permissions/services (based on similar questions from other users)
[20:53] <goosechaser> but when I ran the program as root, it gave me a warning not to. hence the chown and mod ing of the log files
[20:54] <tgm4883> goosechaser, ah, well then yea, that does sound like a badly packaged program
[20:54] <Quest> if i dd a full HDD ? and the destination (backup) HDD is larger than the original HDD, and it is also new  (unformated) . Should i just run  dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=64K . do I need to take care of anything else? what will happen to the partitions sizes as the destination HDD is larger. is bs=64k compulsory?
[20:54] <subcool> whats the deal with gparted? - Im trying to resize my USB/eSata drive (shrink) - and it keeps crashing. I have NEVER had issues like this.
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Is it unmounted?
[20:56] <subcool> wilee-nilee, yes
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Not a auto mount with fstab?
[20:56] <pepeppepe> thank you guys. Screen worked.
[20:56] <subcool> wilee-nilee, in fact it is
[20:56] <mbeierl> Quest, it will recreate the partition table on the larger disk, with the same size partitions as it read from the smaller disk
[20:57] <mbeierl> Quest, so you will have unused space at the end of the disk, which you can then later turn into another partition or grow one of the existing partitions into it
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> subcool, I would shut down reboot with it unplugged and then plug it in and unmount from gparted then try.
[20:57] <mbeierl> as for the bs (block size), not it is not compulsory
[20:58] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Or open fstab a # the mount and reboot.
[20:58] <rexwin_> ran sudo tasksel and then selected ubuntu-desktop and it is stuck with the screen of Installing Packages, please wait for more than 2 hours
[20:58] <subcool> k- thanks..
[20:58] <subcool> hoepfully its just that easy
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> and*
[20:59] <subcool> and- since u know this stuff
[20:59] <rexwin_> don't know what is happening
[20:59] <subcool> esata - has to be plugged in from boot?
[20:59] <Quest> mbeierl,  how can  a partition grow without deleting data in it?
[20:59] <ChogyDan> rexwin_: what were you starting with?
[20:59] <rexwin_> my ubuntu didnot graphical packages and wanted to install them
[20:59] <rexwin_> UP|
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Comment out the mount in fstab then with a # and reboot.
[21:00] <maltee_h> Hi!
[21:00] <deadweasel> http://developer.amd.com/tools/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/downloads/download-archive/
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> rexwin_  server does not come with graphical packages - did you try to install server?
[21:00] <deadweasel> and site says it's a .tgz.. files downloads as .tar.  Neither extension can be untarred
[21:00] <lynxy> how to change razer copperhead mouse sensitivity?
[21:01] <rexwin_> actually it is JEOS with no graphical packages
[21:01] <ChogyDan> lynxy: does the standard mouse settings screen not work?
[21:01] <rexwin_> so went ahead with installing ubuntu-desktop from tasksel
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> rexwin_  not supported here
[21:02] <rexwin_> Argh
[21:02] <rexwin_> okay, how to find what package contain /etc/X11/X
[21:02] <subcool> wilee-nilee,  esata - has to be plugged in from boot?
[21:02] <lynxy> well, they are working but I wanted to change acceleration too
[21:03] <ChogyDan> rexwin_: if you exit the tasksel, you can try this command: `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^`      with the ^
[21:03] <ChogyDan> might give you more feedback
[21:03] <lynxy> and I thought someone is using copperhead mouse
[21:03] <lynxy> and know some tricks :)
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> rexwin_  ubuntu jeos points to ubuntu server, ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:04] <rexwin_> ChogyDan, so you suggest tasksel is hung up or something
[21:04] <ChogyDan> lynxy: yeah, that is weird that there is no acceleration option for me either
[21:04] <dr_willis> lynxy: theres some razer mouse service/settings tool out there for ljnux
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> subcool, The goal here that you don't get the fstab mount. So either shut down unplug it and power on and plug it in or comment the mount off in fstab and reboot then unmount from gparted.
[21:04] <ChogyDan> rexwin_: I dunno.  But if you decide that is what is happening, I would try that command
[21:04] <dtigue> what is the difference between #ubuntu and #ubuntu-unregged ?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Of course do not plug in till you hit the desktop
[21:05] <ChogyDan> dtigue: unregged looks like it is just to help folks get registered on IRC
[21:05] <tgm4883> dtigue, it would appear to be the text "-unregged"
[21:05] <lynxy> dr_willis: yes there is but I couldn't find any documentation and I'm some kind of beginner :|
[21:06] <donvito2> how to update this from ssh The following packages have been kept back:
[21:06] <donvito2>   linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae linux-image-generic-pae
[21:06] <lynxy> dr_willis: do you have a razer mouse?
[21:06] <dr_willis> lynxy: i compiled it a month or so ago i recall.  yes i got a razor mouse
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> donvito2, dist-upgrade
[21:06] <dr_willis> or a viper or somthing
[21:06] <jrib> dr_willis: what did you execute?
[21:06] <jrib> donvito2: what did you execute?
[21:07] <dtigue> ChogyDan, tgm4883 - it's odd because I am registered on IRC so why would I default to the unregged channel, unless it is because my IRC client logs in to the channel before nickserv identifies me
[21:07] <donvito2> jrib sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:07] <dr_willis> dtigue: server load issues
[21:07] <lynxy> dr_willis: I found it today, it is called razer tool but I have no idea how to use it :)
[21:07] <jrib> donvito2: as wilee-nilee, you should do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[21:07] <jrib> !dist-upgrade | donvito2
[21:07] <tgm4883> dtigue, you don't have to be regged to be in this channel. It sounds like your IRC client is auto joining that channel
[21:08] <dr_willis> lynxy:  all i recall doing was teading the directions
[21:08] <tgm4883> dtigue, you surely aren't forced there by freenode
[21:08] <donvito2> i dont want to move from 12.04 to 13.10 if u mean on that
[21:08] <goosechaser> this is just beautiful
[21:08] <donvito2> i just want to update the release from 39 to 40
[21:09] <dr_willis> tgm4883: seen it happen to me duringnetsplits. or other times
[21:09] <goosechaser> sooooo functional
[21:09] <donvito2> the generic-pae
[21:09] <jrib> donvito2: yes, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[21:09] <donvito2> okey
[21:09] <donvito2> thanks
[21:10] <qwebirc99761> dr_willis: doesn't seem to be forcing me to #ubuntu-unregged
[21:11] <leontopod> installing upgraded ABOUT 5 HOURS REMAINING
[21:11] <leontopod> I change my mind
[21:11] <leontopod> I dont want to upgrade Ubuntu
[21:11] <tgm4883> dr_willis, come to think of it, I don't think i've ever been in that channel
[21:11] <dr_willis> qwebirc99761: i just see it happens at times.. i just join here
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, IF it is installing a stop will brick you.
[21:12] <ChogyDan> leontopod: yeah, I would let that do it's thing, just accept your mistake and let it upgrade
[21:12] <tgm4883> dr_willis, right, I'm just saying that it's not freenode that is sending you there (nor ubuntu). It's the IRC client, specifically because you have been there before (not anything to do with IRC nick registering)
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, AS well that time to finish changes it always has taken me about 2 hours at the install starting.
[21:13] <tgm4883> upgrades via ISO FTW
[21:13] <deusr> hi poeple!!
[21:13] <deusr> I need help! I bought a Samsung Series 9, recorded the ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 on the flash drive and can not boot from USB: (
[21:13] <deusr> UEFI desative
[21:13] <deusr> someone help me??
[21:14] <dr_willis> tgm4883: its a setting/reroute done by the server  and this channel settings for me... not my client
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 | deusr mention the uefi
[21:14] <dr_willis> tgm4883: actavated at times when the channel is being attacked
[21:14] <deusr> wilee-nilee, ok!
[21:15] <tgm4883> dr_willis, weird. I've never been routed to that channel
[21:15] <dr_willis> tgm4883:  its rarely used laely
[21:16] <jrib> this channel has join throttling so he probably just got unlucky when he tried to join
[21:16] <goosechaser> deuser hold on is series 9 a tablet?
[21:16] <dr_willis> if you idle here 24/7 ypu may not see it
[21:18] <Tex_Nick> jrib : yeah that happened to me once ... kinda confused me
[21:20] <leptone> niclserv identify leptone 2pac99cs
[21:21] <genii-around> leptone: You might want to change your password now
[21:21] <fidel> leptone: change that ;)
[21:22] <leptone> hahah i no
[21:22] <leptone> can someone link me? or is it just on freenodes main site?
[21:24] <Tatuus> Hello, just wanted to share this, as it helped me. If you have problem starting Team Fortress 2 on Steam for Linux, try this ---> http://pastebin.com/UzCnjVs2
[21:26] <shaysowden> hello
[21:26] <goosechaser> sudo
[21:26] <leontopod> I want root
[21:27] <leontopod> I don't want to sudo
[21:27] <leontopod> how do I reactivate the root account?
[21:27] <OerHeks> leontopod, root account is disabled, we don't support enabling it.
[21:27] <OerHeks> !root
[21:28] <OerHeks> if you want a whole terminal session to be root, use ' sudo -i '
[21:28] <leontopod> so sudo passwd
[21:28] <tgm4883> !noroot
[21:28] <leontopod> sudo passwd root
[21:28] <leontopod> !root
[21:28] <leontopod> !wfm
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, running root in ubuntu is not a good idea it will eventually mess up the system, itis not designed to be run that way, use a distro that does.
[21:29] <leontopod> how will it mess up the system?
[21:29] <leontopod> I am in control of the root shell session
[21:30] <leontopod> if I don't do anything to mess anything up, nothing will get messed up
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, Ubuntu is not designed that way that is just the way it is and OFF TOPIC.
[21:30] <dtigue> people can gain access to your system easier
[21:30] <leontopod> Unix with root
[21:30] <leontopod> Unix without root?
[21:30] <leontopod> Ubuntu is not designed like Unix?
[21:30] <tgm4883> leontopod, I think the point is that if you have to ask how to activate it, you don't know enough to not screw it up
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, unix is not ubuntu your reasoning is flawed
[21:30] <leontopod> ah, good point
[21:31] <leontopod> Ubuntu is Linux, right?
[21:31] <tgm4883> leontopod, either way, it's OT and not supported
[21:31] <tgm4883> leontopod, pointless. Next you will tell us that OSX and Linux are practically the same
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> lol
[21:32] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, I've heard far too many people say that
[21:33] <leontopod> well both Linux and OS X are POSIX compliant I think
[21:33] <leontopod> so in that way yes they are similar
[21:33] <dtigue> still OT, OS X I believe is BSD based
[21:34]  * tgm4883 sighs
[21:34] <mouseofthesteppe> how do i do a sha256 check on ubuntu cmd?
[21:35] <mouseofthesteppe> filename -sha256?
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> !sha256
[21:35] <tgm4883> !sha256sum
[21:35] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> mouseofthesteppe, Not sure I run a md5 if needed, the web probably has answers
[21:35] <tgm4883> well it's 'sha256sum -c <FILE>'
[21:35] <tgm4883> !tab | mouseofthesteppe
[21:36] <mouseofthesteppe> tgm4883: thanks
[21:36] <Artpicre> Good Night.
[21:37] <madprops> what is unity-lens-shopping?
[21:37] <subcool> wilee-nilee, i dont think that did it- its still taking forever.
[21:37] <dtigue> madprops, its for showing amazon related searches in your dash i believe
[21:37] <jrib> !info unity-lens-shopping
[21:38] <jrib> well that's a useful description
[21:38] <tgm4883> lol
[21:38] <miketomdool> lol
[21:38] <she_dyed> who writes these things
[21:38] <tgm4883> she_dyed, the package maintainer
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> subcool, resizing takes a long time in general.
[21:39] <dtigue> madprops, its for showing amazon results in your dash, if any are relevant to your search
[21:39] <puppyearz> hello
[21:39] <subcool> wilee-nilee, i've never had it take so long - im just shrinking it. : - ill wait..
[21:39] <tgm4883> she_dyed, it just shows the package short description, so there isn't a ton of space for a description
[21:40] <she_dyed> gotcha like the guy probably SMSed in his description
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> subcool, It depends on how much data is there and the size of the data moved really, runs fast on my SSD HD comparebly.
[21:41] <tgm4883> she_dyed, yea, that is kinda short, but the "short description" has to be a single line, and then there is the extended description
[21:41] <puppyearz> question: i have a raid 1 set up with ubuntu server 12.04 in a idb eserver xseries that im installing for a customer...is there a script i can write to send me an email/message if one of the drives in the array fails?
[21:41] <tgm4883> she_dyed, the extended description for that package is kinda short too  "This package contains the "shopping" lens which can be used into Unity to shop online."
[21:42] <she_dyed> the one by dtigue was more helpful
[21:43] <dtigue> Yay! I am finally helpful!
[21:43] <leptone> how do i use the gpg client. just type "gpg" in terminal?
[21:43] <tgm4883> she_dyed, I don't see a limit on short description, but it's single line only, and likely has to be less than 80 characters including the "Description: " part of the control field
[21:43] <she_dyed> uh huh
[21:43] <she_dyed> reminds me of entering mp3 tags on CLI
[21:44] <dtigue> leptone, try 'man gpg' it will give you a good bit of info on gpg
[21:44] <tgm4883> she_dyed, and while dtigue's description is currently accurate, the lens allows results from any shopping scope to be displayed. It just so happens that the amazon lens is the only one available right now
[21:45] <dtigue> tgm4883, yes, eventually there will be tons of online shopping sites built in to the shopping lens
[21:45] <tgm4883> dtigue, true, but it won't be in unity-lens-shopping. That package is going away in 13.10
[21:45] <dtigue> yea, will it all be part of the smart scopes thing ?
[21:45] <tgm4883> dtigue, yep
[21:46] <tgm4883> dtigue, which is one of the reasons I don't tell people to remove the package and to use the privacy options in the control panel instead
[21:46] <she_dyed> no wait are there ads on ubuntu's desktop  now
[21:47] <dtigue> tgm4883, nice, I think I'm gonna install the PPA so I can start testing it out on my test machine
[21:47] <tgm4883> she_dyed, in 12.10 and 13.04 there are amazon results in the dash
[21:47] <dtigue> she_dyed, no add
[21:47] <tgm4883> I don't recall if that was on 12.04 or not
[21:47] <starbuck> hi, does somebody know how to set up  and configure libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3
[21:47] <dtigue> tgm4883, i think the amazon results first showed up in 12.10
[21:47] <she_dyed> hey if we can customize them soon at least it'll be my preferred stores
[21:48] <tgm4883> she_dyed, I'd bet it's only going to be On/Off, not customized stores
[21:48] <she_dyed> aw
[21:48] <tgm4883> although that would be a sweet ubuntu one tie in
[21:48] <she_dyed> you might have something there yes
[21:48] <plut0> how do i tell which repository a package was installed from?
[21:48] <dtigue> she_dyed, yea through the filter on the dash you should be able to add or remove certain sites that are built in
[21:49] <jrtappers> Is there an option to disable the need for passwords when using any sudo command, I am not getting prompted, and would prefer to be
[21:49] <plut0> jrtappers: yes its in /etc/sudoers
[21:49] <dtigue> jrtappers, in the sudoers file you can change it
[21:49] <she_dyed> nice
[21:49] <she_dyed> the gui prompt can go away too?
[21:49] <she_dyed> for password right...
[21:50] <Schuenemann> Is there a way to make the keyboard type faster in ubuntu? Example: hold a key and print that character faster than normal? That's the same idea as turbo joysticks.
[21:50] <she_dyed> keyboard on steroids eh?
[21:50] <jrtappers> Is it normal to have ALL ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: at the end 3 times?
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Schuenemann, nooooooooooooooo
[21:50] <petey> has anyone had any luck with the bigfoot killer series NIC's??
[21:50] <petey> i cant get ethernet for ubuntu for the life of me!
[21:50] <dtigue> jrtappers, no
[21:50] <petey> im desparate
[21:50] <leptone> so i took the password off my comp when i sent it in for server
[21:50] <leptone> now i cant add a new one
[21:51] <jrtappers> dtigue, Can I see what put them there?
[21:51] <jrib> leptone: "sent it in for server"?
[21:51] <jrib> leptone: you mean "service"?
[21:51] <plut0> jrtappers: you want to remove the NOPASSWD part
[21:51] <Schuenemann> wilee-nilee, excuse me?
[21:51] <dtigue> jrtappers, on someone with sudo access should have been able to change that file
[21:51] <jrtappers> leptone, users shoudl get toy there
[21:51] <leptone> yes service
[21:51] <jrib> leptone: how are you trying to add a new one and how did you take the password off before?
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> Schuenemann, Just having some fun. ;)
[21:52] <jrtappers> dtigue, Im the only user, can I see what / when it was changed, 3 times seems suspicious
[21:52] <dtigue> jrtappers, or an application with root access i suppose, but i don't know of one that would do it and i don't think you can see what or who last modified the file
[21:52] <miketomdool> puppyearz, I would take a look at smartd: http://blog.shadypixel.com/monitoring-hard-drive-health-on-linux-with-smartmontools/
[21:52] <leontopod> say, how do I install my own background desktop image in Unity?
[21:52] <leptone> jrib, system settings>user accounts
[21:52] <jrtappers> leontopod, Type appearance in dash
[21:53] <leontopod> cool thanks
[21:53] <leptone> password currently shows: "none"
[21:53] <dtigue> leontopod, right click on the background and select Change Desktop Appearance
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> leontopod, open an image and right click it then set as desktop background is one way.
[21:53] <dtigue> err Change Desktop Background
[21:53] <Schuenemann> there must be some way to configure that. I've searched a lot, but can't find the search terms
[21:53] <leptone> i click on that it ask me what i want my new PW to be and wat my old 1 is (i leave it blank) but i cant press "continue"
[21:54] <jrib> leptone: have you tried using the terminal instead?
[21:54] <leptone> no
[21:54] <jrib> leptone: just type "passwd" in a terminal and press enter
[21:54] <puppyearz>  miketomdool Thanks!
[21:55] <leptone> jrib, thx!
[21:55] <jrtappers> dtigue, I have set the file as immutable, so if its a script that should throw a spanner in the works
[21:56] <leontopod> JUST got done installing 12.0.4
[21:56] <leontopod> let's see if it boots
[21:56] <miketomdool> puppyearz, no problem :) I hope you resolve your problem good luck
[21:56] <jrtappers> leontopod, It should
[21:57] <jasper539> Hi, I need help understanding why yesterday's updates broke my audio.
[21:57] <dtigue> jrtappers, the sudoers file is only modifiable by a user with sudo/root access and by programs with root access, the only programs i can think of that should have that kind of access is daemons and such, and those wouldn't change you sudoers file as far as i know, at least i've never had one make changes to mine
[21:57] <tgm4883> jasper539, well, what did you update yesterday
[21:58] <jasper539> dtigue, I generally apply as they come in.  There was a kernel update the other day, among other things.  Now syslog is full of these:  [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.
[21:58] <jrtappers> dtigue, That was my understanding, but evidently something changed it behind my back
[21:58] <earthling_> my security updates have header files for 2 different kernel versions, should I disregard the older kernel version updates?
[21:59] <jasper539> dtigue, and no sound from my soundblaster card
[21:59] <jasper539> tgm4883, I generally apply as they come in.  There was a kernel update the other day, among other things.  Now syslog is full of these:  [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.
[22:00] <jasper539> tgm4883, and now no sound from my soundblaster card
[22:06] <wannado> how can I copy a directory of about 32 GB of images (about 1 mio) from one server to another? is there a an efficient way? I tried to tar the files, but tar got stuck at already 128MB :(
[22:07] <anthony__> howdy howdy  howdy
[22:08] <schultza> how do i tell network manager or associated dnsmasq (ubuntu 12.04 default configuration) to use both dhcp provided dns and a static dns for upstream dns queries?
[22:12] <tgm4883> schultza, in network manager, IIRC, you just edit the connection and add it under "Additional DNS Servers"
[22:14] <sburjan`> Hello. is there any correspondent of mc (midnight commander) for Gnome ?
[22:14] <schultza> tgm4883, i dont see "Additional DNS Servers" in the ubuntu's icon for network manager. Am I looking in the wrong area!?
[22:15] <tgm4883> schultza, are you in the "edit connections" dialog?
[22:15] <schultza> yes... i have tabs for wired, wireless, etc
[22:16] <schultza> in one of those i have connection settings.. in any of them, under ipv4 does not show "Additional DNS Servers"
[22:16] <tgm4883> schultza, ok, on the wired tab, you should have 1 connection. You need to edit that
[22:16] <jacklk> yo yo yo crazy man
[22:16] <tgm4883> hmm
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | jacklk
[22:16] <jacklk> tgm4883: stroke your beard
[22:16] <jacklk> and _think_
[22:17] <schultza> jacklk, hush, let him think
[22:17]  * tgm4883 thinks
[22:17] <jacklk> hiddenbit: welcome
[22:17] <jacklk> jeffsi: welcome
[22:17] <jacklk> Zolmeister: welcome
[22:17] <schultza> brb...
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> sburjan`, if not in the repos here are debs for various ubuntu releases. http://pkgs.org/download/mc
[22:18] <jacklk> nospinzy: welcome
[22:18] <nospinzy> hey
[22:18] <jacklk> DrNoNeck: welcome
[22:18] <jacklk> h4z|afk: welcome
[22:18] <SonikkuAmerica> jacklk: Have you tried the /nick greeter command yet? XD
[22:19] <jacklk> no
[22:19] <jacklk> Zolmeister: welcome
[22:19] <tgm4883> schultza, in IPv4 settings, what is selected for "Method"
[22:20] <jacklk> Drakeson: welcome
[22:20] <vitimiti> bye
[22:20] <jacklk> road33_: welcome
[22:20] <jacklk> MattStratton: welcome
[22:20] <jacklk> hans: welcome
[22:20] <jacklk> tyn: welcome
[22:21] <jacklk> netsjanek: welcome
[22:21] <jacklk> karakedi: welcome
[22:22] <jacklk> sharky: welcome
[22:22] <Drakeson> How should I install ubuntu on google's chromebook pixel?
[22:22] <jacklk> Drakeson: 1) get a CD
[22:22] <jacklk> opieng1: welcome
[22:23] <Drakeson> Any owners in this channel?
[22:23] <jacklk> Drakeson: yeah
[22:23] <jacklk> use a CD..
[22:24] <jacklk> pred4t0r: welcome
[22:24] <tgm4883> jacklk, so.... that's getting kinda annoying
[22:24] <jacklk> carif: welcome
[22:24] <jacklk> tgm4883: I know.
[22:24] <jacklk> deal with it
[22:24] <jacklk> Limratana: welcome
[22:25] <tgm4883> jacklk, ok
[22:25] <pred4t0r> how to minimized apps to launcher unity
[22:25] <dr_willis> pred4t0r:  click the minimize button is one way
[22:25] <carif> jacklk, ty
[22:25] <jacklk> zerooneone: welcome
[22:26] <jacklk> nevada-smith: welcome
[22:26] <jacklk> mz|`: welcome
[22:26] <jacklk> carif: you're welcome
[22:26] <anthony__> how do I turn off the screen saver?
[22:26] <jacklk> anthony__: Why?
[22:26] <jacklk> talsamon: welcome
[22:26] <jacklk> DaveR: welcome
[22:26] <pred4t0r> ohh ...thank's
[22:26] <talsamon> hello jacklk
[22:26] <jacklk> pred4t0r: welcome
[22:26] <dr_willis> anthony__:  check the system setting items? under power settings i recall. Not on ubuntu at the moment..
[22:27] <jacklk> talsamon: hello, how are you?
[22:27] <jacklk> Zolmeister: welcome
[22:27] <talsamon> jacklk,  thanks fine, i'm playing with vbox and freebsd
[22:27] <jacklk> talsamon: cool
[22:27] <jacklk> duke3k: welcome
[22:28] <pred4t0r> 1 question, can i resume upgrade system after that interupt download?
[22:28] <Sazpaimon> how do I make i so screen always logs its ouput
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> pred4t0r: You should be able to.
[22:29] <Sazpaimon> so whenever a screen is spawned, it's entire output is logged to a file without me having to attach it at all
[22:29] <IdleOne> jacklk: We don't need a welcome bot. Please keep your comments support related.
[22:29] <jacklk> IdleOne: sure
[22:29] <jacklk> anuxi: welcome
[22:29] <IdleOne> thank you
[22:30] <pred4t0r> okay all thank's for you support
[22:30] <zerooneone> thank you IdleOne
[22:30] <zerooneone> and you're welcome
[22:30] <jasper539> anyone know why this would have crept up recently?: [pulseaudio] alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.
[22:31] <Drakeson> Thanks!  For future referece, how can I find the owners in an IRC channel? (the ones currently joined, but maybe in their slumber)
[22:32] <anthony__>  thanks all
[22:32] <IdleOne> Drakeson: /msg chanserv access #channel-name list
[22:32] <anthony__> oh, one more thing
[22:32] <zero__> salam
[22:33] <schultza> tgm4883, its set to Full Auto DHCP
[22:33] <anthony__> how do I make it so the close window icon is attached to the window, and not at the top
[22:33] <tgm4883> schultza, hmm, what version of ubuntu
[22:33] <Drakeson> IdleOne: Noted.  Thanks.
[22:33] <schultza> 12.04
[22:33] <schultza> er... "Automatic (DHCP)"
[22:33] <tgm4883> schultza, give me a sec to boot a 12.04 ISO
[22:34] <schultza> even if it set it up for addresses only, it still didnt pick up the dhcp dns for the local network
[22:35] <Drakeson> Now, should I ask hardware compatibility questions about with unreleased versions in ubuntu+1 (or was it ubuntu-devel), or some other channel?
[22:35] <Jester> Hi. I'm trying to obtain the sources for my currently running kernel.  I got the package linux-source-3.5.0 and I've also tried getting the sources with "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)".  When I configure the kernel, it tells me the kernel is version 3.5.7 although the sources are supposed to be for 3.5.0 (with ubuntu patches).  Also, modules get installed to /lib/modules/3.5.7-... and not /lib/modules/3.5.0-... like ...
[22:35] <Jester> ... they should.  Any idea why this happens?
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Drakeson: Yes-sir-ee, #ubuntu+1 is the place for all things 13.04.
[22:36] <she_dyed> maybe your soft links are pointing to current kernel
[22:37] <she_dyed> 3.5.7
[22:37] <Drakeson> Jester: I think 3.5.0 is the package name.  The actualy kernel version is probably a bit different in the minor value.
[22:37] <Jester> she_dyed: which soft links ?
[22:37] <Drakeson> SonikkuAmerica: Arigatto :-p
[22:38] <tgm4883> schultza, hmm, that seems to be something that was added in 12.10 or 13.04
[22:38] <Jester> Drakeson: well the full version is 3.5.0-27-generic.  I can deal with the -27-generic part with "make EXTRAVERSION="-27-generic" when building my kernel/modules, but the 3.5.7 part is the one that's bothersome
[22:38] <schultza> oh lovely.. when's the next LTS?
[22:38] <stupidBYdefault> hy.. :( would somebody take an year, and help me out?
[22:38] <stupidBYdefault> http://imagebin.org/253531
[22:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Drakeson: どういたしまして
[22:38] <tgm4883> schultza, 14.04
[22:39] <stupidBYdefault> and a lot of progs installed, arent there no more...
[22:39] <stupidBYdefault> + my fs / is full with 5gb?
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: My diagnosis is that your computer is enchanted by some spell. :)
[22:39] <tgm4883> schultza, you can try puting the DNS servers in "/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base "
[22:39] <stupidBYdefault> SonikkuAmerica, yes, me!
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: Seriously, though, did you try [ sudo apt-get clean ]!
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:40] <tgm4883> schultza, one per line, similar to 'nameserver 192.168.1.XXX'
[22:40] <stupidBYdefault> trying...
[22:40] <Aaron> !Ops NataLia is a Spammer
[22:40] <IdleOne> Aaron: thank you
[22:41] <Aaron> and thank you too..
[22:41] <stupidBYdefault> am... i need more space on / what to do? delete.. what exactly? how to show other installed progs?
[22:42] <stupidBYdefault> SonikkuAmerica, thank u, it seems it will work now..
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: Where is your / ? Is it on a 5 GB space?
[22:42] <stupidBYdefault> yes
[22:42] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault: look at the output of the 'df' command to see how full things are
[22:43] <schultza> resolv.conf seems to be fixed even when i alter the script's config to alter that with a prepend attribute... resolv sticks to localhost
[22:43] <Drakeson> Aaah, no luck in #ubuntu+1.  Apparently they are actually building stuff, not lurking in irc.  Who would've thought...
[22:43] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  and pastebin text. not image files..   makes it easier to read
[22:43] <stupidBYdefault> wowowow
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: whatwhatwhatwhat?
[22:44] <stupidBYdefault> my / is on an usb hd , next to /home, /swap and /ntfs
[22:44] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis, df.. ??
[22:44] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  pastebin the output of df -h
[22:48] <Jester> she_dyed: Could you elaborate on which symlinks you were referring to that could make my kernel configuration use version string "3.5.7" instead of "3.5.0" ?  I can't seem to find anything 3.5.7 in /boot, /usr/src, etc.
[22:48] <stupidBYdefault> http://imagebin.org/253532
[22:48] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis,
[22:49] <celso> people, does anyone knows if on bootu ubuntu, network manager runs before the rc.local file?
[22:49] <celso> *boot
[22:49] <celso> people, does anyone knows if on boot ubuntu, network manager runs before the rc.local file?
[22:49] <mmaheu> I would assume after
[22:50] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  learn to paste TEXT to a pastebin site.. or stop using hard to read backgrounds/transparent terminsls..
[22:50] <stupidBYdefault> ow, sorry
[22:50] <stupidBYdefault> will fix
[22:50] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  you / is 10gb in sizwe. thats very tiny
[22:50] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  i suggest at least a 20gb /
[22:50] <stupidBYdefault> is it?
[22:50] <celso> because when i use vgaswitcheroo to change graphics card, if i have my eth0 cable conected, it simpy frozen my ubuntu
[22:50] <stupidBYdefault> crap..
[22:51] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  you filled it up with 'normal ussage' so - yes for you  it is
[22:51] <stupidBYdefault> and if i remove some things?
[22:51] <stupidBYdefault> like lxde?
[22:51] <celso> only started to behave like this after the latest updates.
[22:51] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  i imagine that may free up a few 100mb..
[22:52] <stupidBYdefault> ok...
[22:52] <stupidBYdefault> but.. what exactly can i remove?
[22:52] <celso> some idea about how to delay the startup of conection manager?
[22:52] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  i would start by cleaning out the apt cache and  the various /var/log files you dont need
[22:53] <stupidBYdefault> hold on... please
[22:53] <stupidBYdefault> fixing term..
[22:53] <hsn> is evolution better then thunderbird?
[22:54] <automin> hey, i'm trying to apt-get install xvfb, and it's giving me a 403 error. any idea of how to fix this?
[22:54] <stupidBYdefault> i dont know.. but i got them both
[22:54] <automin> if it helps, the error: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xvfb_1.11.4-0ubuntu10.11_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden
[22:55] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis, i am ready now, for the instructions on deleting..
[22:55] <she_dyed> Jester they might lie in /usr/src/linux try ls -l | grep '>' but if there aren't any follow Drakesons tip
[22:56] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis, how do i delete apt cache
[22:56] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  apt-get fundamentals.. apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove
[22:57] <stupidBYdefault> sudo in front?
[22:58] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis, E: Invalid operation fundamentals
[22:58] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault: ... users are not allowed to mess with the system.. so for anything that messed with the system you need 'root' rights.. so sudo would be needed
[22:58] <stupidBYdefault> sudo is root?
[22:58] <stupidBYdefault> ok
[22:58] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  you are learning 'apt-get fudamentals'
[22:58] <NARMYNNA> http://bitchinbeach.com/videos/young-german-girl-sabrina-loves-sperm-in-her-face/
[22:58] <stupidBYdefault> damn im stupid
[22:58] <dr_willis> !apt | stupidBYdefault
[22:59] <harris> does anyone know where to get free computer cables
[22:59] <stupidBYdefault> !synaptic
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> (That factoid needs updating)
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> (The !apt one)
[23:00] <stupidBYdefault> every one needs an update...
[23:01] <stupidBYdefault> eaven a tooth :)
[23:01] <she_dyed> harris: pick your area in craigslist, look for curb alerts
[23:01] <genii-around> harris: Well, nearly free anyhow at most of the thrift shops
[23:01] <stupidBYdefault> only, gpart works fine
[23:01] <stupidBYdefault> :)
[23:01] <harris> craiglist you have to pay shipping
[23:01] <she_dyed> harris: pick your area, else you're doing it wrong
[23:01] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall tooth ]
[23:01] <sect0r> Can anyone tell me what the ubuntu 12.10 "performance fix" that's talked about on the steam forums sometimes is?
[23:02] <stupidBYdefault> SonikkuAmerica, what is that?
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> stupidBYdefault: How to upgrade your tooth on Ubuntu.
[23:03] <stupidBYdefault> :) thanks
[23:03] <genii-around> !info tooth
[23:03] <genii-around> Hm
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !steam
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> sect0r: Go there
[23:03] <harris> my city not there
[23:04] <stupidBYdefault> hihihihihi
[23:04] <sect0r> thx
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> info tooth edgy
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !info tooth edgy
[23:05] <genii-around> SonikkuAmerica: EOL
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Dang.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[23:05] <OerHeks> !find tooth
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> This thing about blue teeth, doesn't sound good for a human at all.
[23:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Yet it is./
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> it's a viking's name
[23:07] <stupidBYdefault> ok... is there any app 4 android (got htc wildfire) sync 4 gnome?
[23:07] <dr_willis> Sync what with gnome stupidBYdefault ?
[23:08] <stupidBYdefault> 2 sync my htc with comp.. i saw, a video, man texted sms over comp, sended over phone.. as normal sms
[23:09] <stupidBYdefault> would be very handy
[23:09] <dr_willis> I dont see how thats 'syncing'
[23:09] <dr_willis> go check out 'airdroid'
[23:09] <mouseofthesteppe> hey guys, if i have a launcher sitting inside a sub menu under the menu Applications, how can I find out the file it's referring to in the ubuntu directories?
[23:09] <dr_willis> mouseofthesteppe:  look at its .desktop file is one way
[23:09] <mouseofthesteppe> In windows I would right click and properties
[23:10] <mouseofthesteppe> whats the .desktop file?
[23:10] <dr_willis> mouseofthesteppe:  or use one of the menu editor programs out there to check its properties
[23:10] <dr_willis> mouseofthesteppe:  each app has a .desktop file.. ie:   gedit.desktop
[23:10] <dr_willis> that defines its menu settings
[23:10] <she_dyed> and they have exec= in there right?
[23:11] <dr_willis> and many other settings.
[23:11] <mouseofthesteppe> But I'd have to know where the file is to know that no?
[23:11] <dr_willis> mouseofthesteppe:  so use the locate command to locate it..
[23:11] <stupidBYdefault> dr_willis, what ubout removing previus kernels... (i see them in grub ) ?
[23:11] <dr_willis> locate gedit.desktop
[23:11] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  use the package manager to remove them
[23:12] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  the askubuntu.com site has some info on how to remove kernels properly
[23:12] <mouseofthesteppe> thanks found it
[23:13] <stupidBYdefault> ow... dr_willis ..is it normal 4 ubuntu 12.4lts (gnome) to crash at log off? and go to safe graphic? can nothing do anymore... not eaven press ok button.. only off button works..
[23:18] <stupidBYdefault> so... i removed some progs out of ubuntu software center...
[23:18] <dr_willis> stupidBYdefault:  why you think thats 'normal' ?
[23:19] <OerHeks> pc not power-off, sounds like a ACPI issue. maybe not set correct in your bios.
[23:20] <stupidBYdefault> i know it aint.. just.. i wonder, if it is a norml fix for u
[23:22] <subcool> wilee-nilee, i have to confrim- eSata requires to be plugged in from boot? or is it plug n play?
[23:22] <stupidBYdefault> am.. as i opened software center..  previus installs starts again..
[23:23] <stupidBYdefault> i hit remove button, but it still goes to download.. normal? download completly to remove?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> subcool, I have no idea about any specialties with esata.
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> subcool, What is it you are trying to do?
[23:24] <Bauer1> ok, I have a 8GB iso file, which when I mount on my Ubuntu, I see only handful of files, while mounting the SAME iso in Windows 8 using Daemon tools, I see a lot more files which are missing in linux... can anyone help please?
[23:25] <schultza> thanks for all the help
[23:25] <schultza> later
[23:25] <OerHeks> Bauer1, any file or folder with a ~/.<name>  is hidden in linux
[23:26] <jessewallace> im on mac osx and i cant convert the ubuntu.iso to a .img file using terminal with the command on the ubuntu website.  does anybody know of a working command that i could use?
[23:26] <jessewallace> really have been having probs with this
[23:26] <OerHeks> Bauer1, ctrl + h = hidden to show hidden files in nautilus
[23:26] <Bauer1> OerHeks: I tried ls -a
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, Right click it then open with archive manager if ctrl-h does not show all files
[23:26] <dr_willis> jessewallace:  why do you need to convert it to img? id think  ox-s has tools to mount/access iso files
[23:27] <Bauer1> OerHeks: the missing files are called like Installer tome 2.MPQE, sc2.ico, autorun.inf
[23:27] <jessewallace> it does but im trying to write it to a 16 gb flash drive so i can use startup disk to switch from ubuntu to osx
[23:27] <Bauer1> OerHeks: they just dont show in linux when I mount
[23:28] <dr_willis> jessewallace:   you want to write the iso to a usb flash as an 'image' normally with a command like dd. or other tools
[23:28] <dr_willis> jessewallace:  thats not the same as a .img file
[23:28] <subcool> wilee-nilee, when i plug it in when the computers running, it doesnt recognize.
[23:28] <dr_willis> jessewallace:  id say check the pendrivelinux site. it may have some tools for OS-X
[23:28] <jessewallace> ok
[23:28] <jessewallace> thanks for your help
[23:29] <subcool> Does anyone know the workings of eSata.. is it plug n play
[23:29] <dr_willis> subcool:  supposed to be i belive
[23:29] <subcool> :/
[23:29] <subcool> k
[23:29] <subcool> thanks
[23:29] <dr_willis> subcool:  but ive never seen it actually work. ;)
[23:29] <subcool> i havent either
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> subcool, did you stop any resizes while running? Does it mount when booted? Have you checked fstab for the automount at boot for the correct uuid. 3 questions here.
[23:29] <subcool> but it does when its plugged in at boot
[23:29] <subcool> wilee-nilee, it worked- thanks a lot
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:30] <subcool> wilee-nilee, i ran it as USB2- really dont wanna deal with the tranfers speed again.
[23:30] <kymesoul> Hi, is Cs3 Photoshop would really work in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[23:30] <dr_willis> !appdb | kymesoul
[23:30] <MPHopcroft> Hello
[23:31] <kymesoul> I tried wine but didn't work. The exe have run under wine but didn't proceed in installation.
[23:31] <Bauer1> wilee-nilee: archive manager does not show anything.
[23:31] <MPHopcroft> I am having a problem installing Ubuntu. When it comes time to restart at the end of the installation, I get a "Kernel Panic" and then, after I manually restart, nothing happens.
[23:31] <dr_willis> kymesoul:  check the wine app database..  thats all we can suggest
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, What is the disc?
[23:32] <Bauer1> wilee-nilee: what do you mean? it is a 8GB iso file, no "disc"
[23:32] <Bauer1> 5.4GB
[23:32] <Bauer1> 8.4
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, OKay what is the ISO?
[23:32] <MPHopcroft> It's the latest version on an old AMD Sempron with a 250GB hard drive.
[23:33] <Bauer1> wilee-nilee: StarCraft_II_Heart_of_the_Swarm
[23:35] <jsutterfield> I've just launched razorsql, but the top half of the application window is beyond the top of my screen. I can't figure out how to move it down or resize it. Any ideas?
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, Is it a legit ISO would be my wonder is all, I know nothing about games.
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> I see a thread on the ubutu forums of people running it.
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu*
[23:36] <Bauer1> wilee-nilee: what do you mean by "legit ISO"? I must assume that since it opens correctly using Daemon Tools under windows, the ISO must be ok
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, Like I said I have no clue on games per-say, or which ones can be torrented.
[23:37] <MPHopcroft> OK, I looked up Kernel Panic. I'm still wondering how I can prevent it when setting up Ubuntu.
[23:38] <Bauer1> any further ideas, wilee-nilee ? or alternatively, where else can I raise this question? I am not sure of the appropriate forum...
[23:38] <DarthExpeditor> My software center keeps hanging on installs and I went to update and the OS update appears to have hung as well. Advice?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, Well I believe it runs in wine so have you tried that.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2126230 here is the thread I found
[23:40] <Bauer1> wilee-nilee: Accodring to wine's DB, it should yes, but I found the problem only when trying to launch the setup.exe file, it complained about missing archive, then when I started checking the mount directory, I saw that other than the exe file and one directory, all the other files are missing in linux
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> Bauer1, Not sure then, sorry.
[23:41] <Bauer1> no worries wilee-nilee , this is a good pointer, thanks! now I know where to post my issue, and hope someone can help
[23:42] <NARMYNNA> http://bitchinbeach.com/videos/young-german-girl-sabrina-loves-sperm-in-her-face/
[23:43] <DarthExpeditor> My software center keeps hanging on installs and I went to update and the OS update appears to have hung as well. Advice?
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> DarthExpeditor, IN the terminal run sudo apt-get update and pastebin all the text.
[23:45] <DarthExpeditor> kk
[23:45] <DarthExpeditor> standby, going to reboot to get the system to release apt-get
[23:47] <Helpeneed> hi
[23:47] <Helpeneed> can somone help me
[23:47] <Helpeneed> help
[23:47] <Helpeneed> help
[23:47] <Helpeneed> hellllpppp me
[23:47] <FloodBot1> Helpeneed: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <Helpeneed> helpe meeeeeeeeeeee
[23:48] <DarthExpeditor> crap
[23:48] <DarthExpeditor> I forgot what the line was you wanted me to run
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get update
[23:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ^ That.
[23:53] <DarthExpeditor> http://pastebin.com/d1zREcuK
[23:53] <DarthExpeditor> should I try the line it suggests?
[23:53] <DarthExpeditor> I've never jammed Ubuntu up like this.
[23:53] <adamk> Yes.
[23:53] <DarthExpeditor> kk
[23:54] <ThePiousPriest> Hello all, would updating my Kernel allow me to use my Belkin DB 750 Wireless Adapter natively without installing other drivers?
[23:54] <DarthExpeditor> friggin DropBox
[23:54] <DarthExpeditor> that explains it
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> DarthExpeditor, run this whole command copy and paste it sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[23:55] <DarthExpeditor> its running
[23:55] <technopeasant> I have a question I hope someone can answer. I am a total novice but, I have decided to use LINUX I have tried to load the last three versions UBUNTU and MINT every one ended up at the end of the instillation with an unsuccessful installation due to GRUB not loading. Then of course the install asks if I want to abort install go on without a loader or try again. Tried all three with obvious results Can anyone suggest a solution to
[23:56] <DarthExpeditor> So my dropbox install barfed and messed up my apt-get
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> technopeasant, You running W8 per-chance?
[23:57] <technopeasant> No Iam running an older AMD 64 with a Nvidia 4 chipset.
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> DarthExpeditor, You have to be careful with the software center, it is easy to close it without making sure stuff is finished, may have had a problem though.
[23:58] <DarthExpeditor> kk
[23:58] <technopeasant> I think the Nvidia is the problem because my wife has another brand board with an Nvida and it does the same thing.
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> technopeasant, You using a install to disc or manual install, and how old is the HD?