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[02:24] <ScottK> valorie: It's apt-get build-dep ${PACKAGE}
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[05:04] <valorie> ScottK: sheesh, yes
[05:19]  * micahg prefers sudo mk-build-deps -i -r so that it's easily removable
[05:20] <micahg> (that's run in the unpacked source dir)
[05:39] <valorie> micahg: what exactly does that do?
[05:40] <valorie> I assume the -r is for recursive
[05:40] <valorie> does it give you a list?
[06:04] <soee> good morning
[06:09] <jussi> Riddell: ping when youve a min
[06:09] <jussi> morning soee
[06:51] <Riddell> jussi: yo
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> hello world 
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> thank you shadeslayer and valorie
[07:33] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: I did search for them but I'm uncertaints which one to use
[07:35] <valorie> actually, you saw ScottK's correction, right?
[07:36] <valorie> not sure what micahg's version does
[07:36] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer recommended this first
[07:38] <ovidiu-florin> can I do the same for any program ?
[07:38] <Quintasan> valorie: Why? Thanks
[07:38] <valorie> because you've been sick!
[07:38] <valorie> and i want you to feel better
[07:38] <Quintasan> oh, I see
[07:39] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: yes
[07:39] <Quintasan> thanks :)
[07:39] <valorie> you only need the -dev version if you are going to build
[07:39] <valorie> the -depends if there are missing dependencies
[07:41] <ovidiu-florin> aham
[07:42] <valorie> man apt has a lot of stuff, but not as clear as I would like
[07:52] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:55] <shadeslayer> hurrah
[07:55] <shadeslayer> let the hacking begin
[07:56] <shadeslayer> I should probably write documentation one efi stub booting
[08:33] <ovidiu-florin> how can I get libgrantlee-dev 0.3 on quantal?
[08:33] <ovidiu-florin> I have backports, but I still get only 0.2
[08:33] <shadeslayer> oh
[08:33] <shadeslayer> hmm
[08:34] <shadeslayer> why do you need 0.3?
[08:36] <ovidiu-florin> to compile kdepim
[08:39] <shadeslayer> hmm
[08:39] <shadeslayer> and why do you want to compile kdepim?
[08:40] <shadeslayer> or rather, does kdepim not compile with 0.2?
[08:42] <ovidiu-florin> no it does not
[08:43] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Show the error, it could very well be that shadeslayer know how to fix it ;)
[08:43] <shadeslayer> yeah ^
[08:43] <ovidiu-florin> here is my problem: http://paste.kde.org/721820/
[08:45] <shadeslayer> and how does 0.3 solve that?
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> the maintainer of kdepim told me so
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> Laurent Montel
[08:50] <shadeslayer> mmm CMakeLists.txt does say it requires 0.3
[08:51] <shadeslayer> checking if it builds on quantal
[08:51] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Using the kdepim version that comes with Quantal isn't an option?
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> It has a bug that does not manifest on the version built
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> the version from the quantal repos has https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317387
[08:53] <ubottu> KDE bug 317387 in general "On reply, if the Name of an identity contains something in parentheses the content in parentheses does not apear in the from field." [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> the same on arch linux
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> but when I built it on arch the bug did not show up
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> I'm trying the same thing on kubuntu
[08:56] <shadeslayer> so grantlee 0.3 + kde 4.10.2 works?
[08:56] <shadeslayer> but 0.2 + kde 4.10.2 has that bug?
[08:56] <ovidiu-florin> I'm not sure what causes the bug
[08:57] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: quick and easy way to build grantlee :
[08:57] <shadeslayer> pull-lp-source grantlee
[08:57] <shadeslayer> cd grantlee-0.3.0/
[08:57] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get build-dep grantlee
[08:57] <shadeslayer> dpkg-buildpackage
[08:58] <shadeslayer> and you'll have debs :)
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> pull-lp-source?
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> is that a command?
[08:58] <shadeslayer> yes
[08:59] <shadeslayer> it's in ubuntu-dev-tools
[09:05] <ovidiu-florin> can't this be made available in the repos?
[09:06] <shadeslayer> I don't want to upload a untested grantlee to kubuntu-backports
[09:06] <ovidiu-florin> how to test it?
[09:06] <shadeslayer> could cause issues with 4.10.2
[09:06] <ovidiu-florin> does what I'm doing count as test?
[09:06] <shadeslayer> yep
[09:06] <shadeslayer> it's more or less the same thing that's done on the buildd
[09:06] <ovidiu-florin> it's compiling right now
[09:06] <shadeslayer> okay :)
[09:15] <ovidiu-florin> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file
[09:15] <ovidiu-florin> this is the last output
[09:16] <shadeslayer> that's fine
[09:16] <shadeslayer> there should be debs in ..
[09:16] <ovidiu-florin> so, now I have 3 packages
[09:16] <shadeslayer> yeah, libgrantlee, -dev, -dbg
[09:16] <shadeslayer> you probably want to install all 3
[09:16] <ovidiu-florin> sudo dpkg -i ... ?
[09:17] <shadeslayer> yep
[09:17] <shadeslayer> sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> exactly
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> done
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> nothing exploded
[09:18] <shadeslayer> use kdepim and check if everything works
[09:18] <shadeslayer> more specifically, make sure whatever grantlee is used for works
[09:18] <shadeslayer> "Grantlee is requires for kmail and templating, theming for KJots, KaddressBook and MessageViewer(KMail)."
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> is requires
[09:21] <ovidiu-florin> I can read my mail
[09:22] <shadeslayer> well, I don't know what templating is, but check that?
[09:22] <shadeslayer> does KMail allow you do save templates?
[09:22] <ovidiu-florin> I've never used that, I think I know what it is
[09:22] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[09:23] <ovidiu-florin> cmake does not report that error anymore
[09:23] <shadeslayer> okay, please test that, if it works, I'll upload to kubuntu backports
[09:23] <shadeslayer> ah :)
[09:24] <ovidiu-florin> I'll have to ask about that, I don't know how to use them
[09:24] <ovidiu-florin> I have to go for a while, I'll return later and I'll give you a feedback on this
[09:25] <shadeslayer> sure
[09:26] <ovidiu-florin> BBL
[09:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: not if you approve im-config :P
[09:47]  * smartboyhw waves hello!
[09:47]  * apachelogger greets smartboyhw
[09:48] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, :)
[09:48] <apachelogger> second rekonq change approved \o/
[09:48] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, you mean in upstream?
[09:48] <apachelogger> yeah
[09:49] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, \o/
[09:49] <apachelogger> once I pushed upstream rekonq can download google-chrome on kubuntu :P
[09:49] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, :O
[09:52] <apachelogger> what'd you think I do with rekonq? :O
[09:52] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, uh hum we won't people downloading Chrome from Rekonq:(
[09:52]  * smartboyhw wears the Kubuntu hat for that.
[09:53] <apachelogger> google does, google is our default search engine, so...
[09:53] <lordievader> smartboyhw: o/
[09:54] <shadeslayer> indeed
[09:54] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/11/plasma-desktoplH4556.png top right :P
[09:54] <apachelogger> anywho
[09:54] <shadeslayer> that's the only thing I use rekonq for
[09:54] <apachelogger> the thing is
[09:54] <shadeslayer> it's like the IE of Kubuntu :D
[09:54] <apachelogger> default browser are always used to download the next best thing :P
[09:54] <lordievader> Hehe
[09:54] <shadeslayer> only a bit better
[09:54] <apachelogger> and our default browser fails at doing that
[09:54] <shadeslayer> haha
[09:54] <apachelogger> proofing the desire to want something else
[10:02] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, :D
[10:02] <smartboyhw> in our class, we have a motto: "IE is the downloader for Chrome"
[10:18] <shadeslayer> why are people discussing X on the Kubuntu Devel mailing list
[10:21] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, dunno
[10:31] <apachelogger> Riddell: what's the status on akonadi-facebook l10n?
[10:38] <davmor2> shadeslayer: because that is where it was brought up :)
[10:39] <shadeslayer> davmor2: it's pretty offtopic for Kubuntu Devel :P
[10:41] <davmor2> shadeslayer: you say that but if the person is using Kubuntu and has a developer request where would you logically go?
[10:42] <apachelogger> you'd file a bug
[10:42] <smartboyhw> dantti, the issue is that we don't maintain X. We need to divert him to file a bug and use the ubuntu-x mailing list instead.
[10:42] <smartboyhw> Oops wrong
[10:42] <smartboyhw> davmor2, ^
[10:42]  * smartboyhw hates the "Tab" key today.
[10:42] <shadeslayer> ^^
[10:43] <apachelogger> im-config accepted
[10:43] <davmor2> smartboyhw: I know that, the devs know that.  This user is obviously unaware of that though
[10:43] <smartboyhw> Riddell, apachelogger we probably should go and start a blueprint and arrange a session for Kubuntu vUDS-1305
[10:43] <smartboyhw> davmor2, we forgotten to remind him till now:P
[10:44] <apachelogger> what for? :P
[10:44] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, we do have a Trello board for it I think.
[10:44] <apachelogger> that was for the last uds
[10:44] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, the vUDS-1303?
[10:45] <apachelogger> the one we did not take part in :P
[10:45] <apachelogger> pointless anyway
[10:45] <apachelogger> we'll just mumble a bit afterwards or something :P
[10:45] <shadeslayer> yeah
[10:45] <smartboyhw> yeah.
[10:45] <smartboyhw> Remove board?:P
[10:45] <shadeslayer> lets just mumble every couple of weeks
[10:46] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: Riddell needs to do that
[10:48] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, yep:)
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <shadeslayer> hey BluesKaj
[11:36] <BluesKaj> hi shadeslayer
[11:37] <shadeslayer> ~np
[11:37] <kubotu> shadeslayer_ hasn't played anything recently
[11:37] <shadeslayer> untrue
[11:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^ bot is le broken
[11:39] <smartboyhw> ~np
[11:39] <kubotu> smartboyhw hasn't played anything recently
[11:39] <smartboyhw> ....
[11:42] <shadeslayer> have you set your last.fm username?
[11:43] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, good question. 
[11:43]  * smartboyhw has forgotten his last.fm username;P
[11:43] <smartboyhw> Anyway I don't play music:P
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[11:50] <apachelogger> kubotu: config add lastfm to plugins.blacklist
[11:50] <kubotu> plugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz, forecast, lastfm
[11:50] <kubotu> this config change will take effect on the next rescan
[11:50] <apachelogger> kubotu: save
[11:50] <kubotu> okay
[11:50] <apachelogger> kubotu: rescan
[11:50] <kubotu> saving ...
[11:50] <kubotu> rescanning ...
[11:50] <kubotu> done. 10 core modules loaded; 57 plugins loaded; 32 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load
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[12:13] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/11/plasma-desktopGx4556.png
[12:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you broke isolinux
[12:16] <shadeslayer> I think isolinux was always broken
[12:16] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, no it isn't.
[12:17] <smartboyhw> I think the problem is that the background is just too damn black.
[12:17] <apachelogger> colors are wrong
[12:17] <apachelogger> not sure why
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[12:28] <shadeslayer> lol?
[12:28] <shadeslayer> can't install kubuntu-desktop on armhf
[12:29] <apachelogger> ohhh
[12:29] <apachelogger> forgot to commit the color changes
[12:29] <apachelogger> meh
[12:29] <apachelogger> -.-
[12:31] <shadeslayer> ah
[12:31] <shadeslayer> silly apachelogger
[12:32] <apachelogger> this would not have happened with git gui :P
[12:35] <shadeslayer> bah
[12:35] <shadeslayer> qemu-arm-static: /build/buildd/qemu-linaro-1.0.50-2012.03/user-exec.c:100: handle_cpu_signal: Assertion `({ unsigned long __guest = (unsigned long)(address) - guest_base; (__guest < (1ul << 32)) && (!reserved_va || (__guest < reserved_va)); })' failed.
[12:41] <apachelogger> livecd should be fixed tomorrow
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[12:52] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, :P
[12:52] <smartboyhw> \o/
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[13:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: so what did I break?
[13:41] <smartboyhw> Quintasan, I think it was himself that break something (or am I talking about something wrong?)
[14:00] <apachelogger> Quintasan: the entire iso
[14:00] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, :O
[14:00] <apachelogger> what with im-config littering unrelated gtk all over the place
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Gee jussi went MIA of the net split.
[14:46] <Quintasan> apachelogger: That is not my fault at all
[14:46] <Quintasan> ask im-config maintainer why he add almost everything as deps
[14:46] <Quintasan> I just added a maliit support patch to the package
[15:28] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:31] <apachelogger> Quintasan: didn't you tell jr that it is ok to add it to the seeds? :P
[15:33] <Quintasan> I did but I did not expect the new version to pull that crap
[15:53] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Thanks for fixing that though!
[15:53] <Quintasan> kubotu: order beer for apachelogger
[15:53]  * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer.
[15:54]  * Quintasan accepts donations for poor, hungry students
[15:55] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping
[15:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ping
[15:57] <apachelogger> Quintasan: ye should have checked then? :P
[15:57] <apachelogger> http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/boot-artwork-for-kubuntu-13-04/
[15:57] <apachelogger> good enough?
[16:13] <smartboyhw> Hmm haven't seen Riddell today…
[16:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: apachelogger pong
[16:18] <apachelogger> I don't want to talk to you anymore
[16:18] <shadeslayer> good
[16:19] <smartboyhw> :O
[16:20]  * smartboyhw thinks apachelogger is extremely grumpy today:
[16:23]  * smartboyhw shares http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/boot-artwork-for-kubuntu-13-04/ in G+
[16:26] <smartboyhw> done
[17:14] <ovidiu-florin> I'm back
[17:24]  * keithzg is booting up the current Daily, oooh pretty
[17:31] <keithzg> Hmm, not even a greyed-out option to auto-resize now, eh?
[17:46] <lordievader> Good evening
[18:32] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I've tested grantlee 0.3, it seems ok
[18:33] <shadeslayer> okay, I'll upload tomorrow
[18:33] <shadeslayer> too tired right now
[18:33] <ovidiu-florin> I'll try it more once someone from #kontact tells me what else to test
[18:33] <yofel> you could've copied the package from neon. That has 0.3 for a while now
[18:34] <shadeslayer> aw
[18:34] <shadeslayer> didn't know
[19:29] <jussi> yeah, well that sucked...
[19:30] <jussi> took the last antibiotic pill, and tummy got all mixed up and rejected it. Not a fun mess from both ends.... (and Im sure you needed to know that)
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[20:41] <apachelogger> dantti: ping
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[20:46] <apachelogger> anyone stil up?
[21:13] <yofel> apachelogger: me
[21:15] <apachelogger> yofel: colord-kde has no l10n whatsoever, we have 0.2 which is 1 year old... what do we do now?
[21:16] <apachelogger> drop colord-kde? snapshot master? snapshot l10n from master and hope it works? cry?
[21:18] <yofel> master doesn't really have that many changes, and we're freakin' a few days before final freeze. What l10n is even there upstream?
[21:21]  * yofel wonders why oyranos never made it out of the experimental PPA
[21:23] <apachelogger> yofel: all of it
[21:23] <apachelogger> l10n support was implemented shortly after 0.2 it appears
[21:24] <yofel> :S
[21:24] <apachelogger> well, many changes or not ... I personally would pull it from the release
[21:24] <yofel> let's ask dantti in what state master is in once he shows up again
[21:24] <soee> boot animation is not working with nvidia drivers ?
[21:24] <apachelogger> soee: define not working
[21:25] <yofel> nope, plymouth needs a framebuffer to work
[21:25] <yofel> the splash I mean
[21:25] <apachelogger> yofel: the fact remains that if we pull a snapshot we release untested software
[21:25] <yofel> apachelogger: nvidia shows the text splash
[21:25] <apachelogger> ah
[21:25] <apachelogger> there are ways to work around that
[21:25] <apachelogger> google can help
[21:25] <soee> apachelogger, well @work on my PC i have nice plymouth animation (using default driver), @home with nvidia i have no plymouth animation 
[21:26] <apachelogger> essentially you hardlock it to a resolution and tell it to use a framebuffer
[21:26] <yofel> soee: set GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX in /etc/default/grub, see that file for more information
[21:27] <yofel> funny thing is that nvidia shows an 'unsupported configuration' warning if you have a framebuffer running these days
[21:27] <yofel> works fine though
[21:27] <apachelogger> mh, I better send a mail about colord
[21:28] <soee> how can i execute vbeinfo to get supported modes ?
[21:28] <yofel> soee: you run that from the grub command line
[21:28] <yofel> !grub
[21:28] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:29] <soee> yofel, can i login into this cmd line from terminal 
[21:29] <soee> ?
[21:29] <yofel> erm, you need to run grub - for that you need to reboot
[21:30] <yofel> from the OS selection you can get to the command line
[21:32] <soee> brb
[21:39] <soee> got just black screen when booting :)
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[22:12] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[22:12] <yofel> hm?
[22:12] <apachelogger> yofel: nepomuk-core has no bzr branch?
[22:12] <apachelogger> ... control says it does, except bzr disagrees
[22:13] <yofel> er, works here
[22:13] <yofel>   checkout of branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/nepomuk-core
[22:13] <apachelogger> hm
[22:13] <apachelogger> bzr: ERROR: A control directory already exists: "file:///home/me/src/bzr/k/nepomuk-core/".
[22:14] <apachelogger> I should go to bed
[22:14] <apachelogger> like srsly
[22:14] <yofel> heh
[22:34] <apachelogger> Darkwing: who's doing docs nowadays?
[22:51] <dantti> yofel: I replied to the email btw
[22:51] <apachelogger> of course I cannot upload kubuntu-docs -.-
[22:52] <apachelogger> well
[22:52] <yofel> dantti: thanks :)
[22:52] <apachelogger> s/upload/push
[23:02]  * apachelogger spammed himself with updates -.-
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