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SonikkuAmericaAaron__: Wallpaper, eh?00:07
Aaron__yeah,00:08
Aaron__is acting up,00:08
SonikkuAmericaGraphics maybe? What's your card?00:08
Aaron__is an ATI,00:08
Aaron__give me one Sec,00:08
Aaron__how do i check my info on my card?00:09
SonikkuAmerica!ati | Start here? (and the answer is lspci)00:09
ubottuStart here? (and the answer is lspci): For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:09
Aaron__is catalyst ATI,00:10
Aaron__ubuntu got the driver for me...00:10
Aaron__ product: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320]00:10
Aaron__can it be unity issue?00:12
SonikkuAmerica!catalyst00:12
SonikkuAmerica!ati00:12
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto00:12
SonikkuAmericaAlso, AMD Catalysts are hard to set up.00:12
Aaron__Yeah i know...00:14
Aaron__on Arch, it looks great,00:14
Aaron__but i am an Ubuntu Member, and i want to come back, on helping out my Team00:15
Aaron__rebooting time00:16
quemSonikkuAmerica: this ppa should be added to that; https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx00:19
quemonly thing that helped me get my old ATI card working again00:19
quemwell, proper 3d accel working. :)00:20
SuperLagWill this beta just go stable one day, and with the latest updates... your existing install will be a stable one? or should you still reinstall?01:33
bazhang!final | SuperLag01:45
ubottuSuperLag: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Raring and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.01:45
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johnjohn1011when unity goes to qt and there is more work done on the opengl side, can we get something similar to the compiz snow  plugin?01:54
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MistaMikewould anyone know how to fix this?02:46
MistaMikehttp://screencloud.net/v/mQg202:46
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lankenI did the 13.04 upgrade today and there's ...I think an issue with the instructions in the wiki04:31
lankenthe instructions say "set Prompt=Normal"04:31
lankenbut I had problems when I used that setting04:31
lankenhad to make it "Prompt=normal"04:31
lankenlowercase04:31
lankenis it possible that the setting is case-sensitive?04:31
Morpheausnvidia 319.12 drivers loaded on raring...very happy right now :)04:37
neostreamhi04:38
jbichalanken: probably, I fixed TechnicalOverview to use 'normal'04:39
lankenjbicha: nice, thanks.04:39
lankenjbicha: umm...I just hit ctrl-C in the upgrade window05:00
lankenjbicha: fuck.05:00
jussilanken: please try keep the language acceptable for everyone ;)05:02
lankenjussi: sorry, will do.05:02
djcan someone help me with my screen shot, and tell me why my gnome looks so crappy? http://s7.postimg.org/3xodqrzuj/Untitled.png05:05
lankenit looks like I can probably just ram the upgrade through with more apt-get upgrade, apt-get install -f , etc...05:11
mystblade9Any info on the release date of 13.04?06:13
l_rhello06:13
bazhang!schedule | mystblade906:13
ubottumystblade9: Raring Ringtail (13.04) release milestones can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule06:13
l_rwill 13.04 use gcc 4.8 as default compiler?06:13
mystblade9Thanks :)06:13
bazhang!info gcc | l_r06:14
ubottul_r: gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.120ubuntu8)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-1ubuntu8 (raring), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB06:14
l_rhmm06:14
bazhangno06:14
l_rstill 4.7.206:14
l_rok thx06:14
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lordievaderGood morning07:52
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yeahuyenhaving trouble backing up to ubuntu one, bad request error08:32
lordmonkeyHello, after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 via "update-manager -d" I am having issue with unity - it won't show up after login. I can log in with Gnome but not with unity. I have installed nvidia-current as somebody mentioned this might be a bug in latest kernel with experimental nvidia drivers but still no go.08:44
yeahuyenlordmonkey: can you bring up a terminal?09:08
lordmonkeyyeahuyen: sure - as I said I can log in with Gnome ( so I can brintg up the terminal and as well tty1-6)09:11
yeahuyeni was gonna suggest trying unity --replace but i guess thats just a temporary solution09:34
lordmonkeyyeahuyen: I don't believe 'unity --replace' works anymore09:40
yeahuyeni just tried it from inside unity, worked for me09:42
yeahuyenmaybe you will get some luck with it09:42
yeahuyeni've logged into a blank screen before. press ctrl alt t to bring up a terminal and try unity --replace09:43
lordmonkeyyeahuyen: I will try when I get on my laptop. isn't 'unity --replace' rolling back to defaults ? (that's not really what I am looking for)09:46
yeahuyenno, you;re thinking of unity --reset, which doesnt work anymor09:47
yeahuyene09:47
yeahuyenunity --replace will start unity with whatever config you have set09:48
Ian_Corneno that's unity --reset if that still exists09:49
Ian_Corne(the reset to defaults)09:49
lordmonkeyyeahuyen: OK, you're right. I will then try to use 'unity --replace' when as soon as I have access to my laptop.09:54
hackeronhey, it seems the libopencv-gpu-dev package is missing in raring? -- Any reason for this? -- It is required by ruby-opencv11:08
mattwj2002what is new in 13.04?11:11
bazhang!notes11:21
ubottuUbuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/12.1011:21
bazhangguess that will need an update11:21
BluesKajHiyas all11:25
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pmatulisjust look at the pre-release notes for 13.0411:37
philinuxmattwj2002: see this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview11:42
philinuxalso see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207784411:44
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gotwigwhat about linux 3.9 and nvidia-319 in Ubuntu 13.04. Is it possible in the future, out of the box?14:21
lordievaderGood afternoon15:28
ironhalikHmm, I can't browser network shares in nautilus15:54
FernandoMiguelironhalik: smb:/// doesn't work?15:57
ironhaliknope15:57
ironhalikhmm nautilus smb://galaxynexus/ workes :>15:58
ironhalikworked*15:58
sadekulhi all, My laptop is HP Pavilion g6, I'm very new in Ubuntu, for the first time i m using ubuntu, I hv installed 12.10 then upgraded it to 13.4. The problem i m facing is wifi is not connecting. But it was perfect with 12.10. Is ther any one can help me?16:52
jtaylorsadekul: its probably not the best idea to upgrade to development releases if you are a first time user17:09
jtaylordoes dmesg provide any clues?17:10
sadekuljtaylor, pls help me about this how can I fix it? I m searching in forum but still not found any proper answer.17:11
jtaylorthe output of "dmesg" in a terminal for any related information17:13
jtayloror /var/log/sylog17:13
jtaylorsyslog17:13
lordievaderGood evening17:46
quemgood evening lordie17:48
lordievaderHey quem, how are you doing?17:49
quemlordievader: i'm doing ok. feeling a bit guilty for recommending the fglrx legacy ppa to a guy in #ubuntu yesterday though.. it messed up his system and i always make the mistake of assuming people know linux/ubuntu better than i do.17:50
quemi had had a mishap with that ppa myself first time i tried it (the maintainer was in the process of updating the packages).. had to ssh into my system to set it straight again.17:50
quemi did tell the guy yesterday to make sure he had sshd running on his machine though.17:51
quemthat ppa solved a problem i've had for over 18 months, so i was a tad over-enthusiastic about it. :)17:52
lordievaderquem: Things like that happen, most unfortunately. :(17:52
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johnjohn101question about installing 13.04.  if i choose the selection to install beside 12.04 and i only have one mounted /  partition, what will the installer ask me to do?18:37
bazhangjohnjohn101, you wish to have two ubuntu installed?18:39
johnjohn101yes on my home computer.  12.04 is stable now and i want to keep that environment mostly and then test out 13.04 as well.  Only one 5 yr old computer at home.18:41
TheLordOfTimeis wubi being dropped from 13.04?18:41
bazhangwhy not try a vbox? johnjohn10118:41
bazhangTheLordOfTime, yes18:41
TheLordOfTimebazhang, where was that announced?18:41
PiciIt really hasn't been 100% decided.18:41
TheLordOfTimei feel like i missed a bug devel announcement18:41
PiciTheres a discussion on one of the mailing lists.18:41
TheLordOfTimes/bug/big/18:41
TheLordOfTimePici, private or public?18:41
PiciTheLordOfTime: public: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/036993.html18:42
johnjohn101i have been running it in vbox. I just want to see how it runs on my hardware18:42
bazhangTheLordOfTime, apologies then; just my wishful thinking overriding things18:42
quemskype segfaults upon launch since i installed 13.04b2.. any ideas?18:45
quemjudging from googling, i'm not alone.. let's see.18:46
genii-around32 bit libs18:46
queminstalled.18:46
TheLordOfTimePici, if I'm reading that right, there's general support for dropping, but still discussion on the issue, so we can't say "Wubi's been dropped" yet, right?18:46
yofelquem: bug 113163618:46
ubottubug 1131636 in skype (Ubuntu) "After QtWebkit update Skype is not launching" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113163618:46
PiciTheLordOfTime: Not yet :(18:47
yofel(and a few others)18:47
* genii-around makes more coffee18:47
johnjohn101do you think wubi's been used a lot?18:49
genii-aroundYes.18:49
bcbc2My understanding is that it's already decided to remove Wubi. The mailing list is just a discussion. Refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview which says it's gone; and they've turned off diskimage builds etc. (Plus no working wubi.exe at this time)18:49
jrrI used it on a machine that had neither a working CD-ROM nor the ability to boot from USB18:49
jrradmittedly ancient machine18:50
johnjohn101i hate that my machine is 5 years old now but still runs 12.04 excellent. wanted to try 13.04 on that hardware without destroying my 12.04.18:50
genii-aroundAlso, many new users don't quite get the idea of booting up off the CD/DVD drive, so when they insert the disc while running Windows, the wubi installer would normally come up and help them along.18:51
quemyofel: think it'll be fixed soon? is it considered important?18:52
fowls-legsHello all!18:54
fowls-legsI am having a problem installing Ubuntu 13.04 Studio. Could anyone help?18:55
yofelquem: well, some people are looking at it, but it's a bit weird so I wouldn't exactly count on it being fixed that soon (It should be fixed in some way before release though)18:56
fowls-legsPlease take a look here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/22649218:59
fowls-legsThe link has a description of my problem. Thank you.19:00
quemyofel: ah. good.19:03
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minetapeHow's 13.04 looking as far as stability and such?19:44
bekksminetape: Well, its beta currently.19:44
sblcfine for me, except for minecraft which froze yesterday19:45
minetapemeh19:45
minetapei grabbed the minecraft launcher from its site19:45
minetapeworks better and faster than win7 for me (in which win7 was originally on the PC)19:46
ironhalikHmm, the Ati "unsupported hardware" watermark started appearing after I reinstalled 13.04, and none of the known fixes seem to work19:50
ironhalikfixes/workarounds19:51
quemironhalik: what hardware?19:56
johnjohn101that watermark appears on your screen?19:57
* genii-around guesses 79XX 20:00
ironhalik7770 :>20:01
ironhalikand it appears in lower right corner20:01
ironhalikok, I just found and copied /etc/ati/control from 12.12 embedded driver, and it fixed it20:02
ironhaliksmells like a silly hack to me, but it works20:02
ironhalikthis may be just a rant, but the AMD driver support on *nix is so bad I'm considering buying a similiarly performing card from nvidia20:04
ironhalikand guys in #ubuntu warned me :P silly me20:04
johnjohn101and it's not like anyone else is going to get into the graphics card biz either to compete20:06
ironhalikthere are some rumors about intel going into the high-end GPU market20:07
johnjohn101maybe steam will be good to push manufactures to get the driver support up to speed.  It doesn't matter to me as compiz is about as graphical as i get20:10
ironhalikcompiz lags (at least the scale plugin) on ati binary drivers for me20:11
ironhalikand the open radeon drivers struggle to support multi display mode, not to mention 3D support on the 7xxx's20:11
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xkernelwhen the 13.04 final will be released?20:12
otendcheck the release schedule20:13
Pici25th20:13
xkerneland when it will use the new window compositing server?20:14
johnjohn101ironhalik: are you using a decent graphics card? or onboard graphics?20:14
johnjohn101because i was looking at maybe one of those FM2 processors.20:15
ironhalikjohnjohn101: I've got the 7770 dGP, it runs battlefield 3 on max details, it should run some neat-but-basic desktop effects :>20:16
ironhalikxkernel: I'm not sure about the official word, but I would guess not soon20:17
johnjohn101unity next, which i guess is out in the fall is based on QT20:18
ironhalikif they won't make it for 13.10 (and I doubt it will be even close), they won't go for it with 14.04 since it's going to be a LTS release20:18
ironhalikso my guess would be 14.1020:18
NanixI just saw that jupiter was deprecated and does not work in ubuntu 13.04. Is there any alternative to it?20:22
xkernelironhalik, unity based on QT !? no more GTK?20:23
ironhalikit was johnjohn101, but yeah, Unity is most probably moving to Qt20:23
ironhalikit's going to be *cute* ;>20:24
johnjohn101unity 2D was already Qt  so probably no much of a stretch for the 3D version20:29
ironhalikif there won't be any end-user UI differences between GTK and Qt, I'm all for it20:31
johnjohn101ironhalik: qml will be used as well. It's pretty neat for gadgets and stuff.20:35
johnjohn101everything in ubuntu changes in two weeks imho.20:36
johnjohn101ironhalik: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-run-unity-next-on-your-desktop20:39
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ironhalikjohnjohn101: it's building :>20:46
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johnjohn101you are a braver man than me.20:47
ironhalikit's building it's own dir, no risk there20:47
ironhalikI'll have tons of -dev packages :>20:48
SonikkuAmericaHey everyone, having a little trouble getting Lubuntu Raring to install in VBox: I boot up, select either "Try" or "Install" and I get IO APIC errors (regardless of the IO APIC state in the VM settings). Any ideas?20:56
johnjohn101do you get the same errors in vmware player?20:59
SonikkuAmericaI'd have to go through contortions to do that; I currently run Ubuntu with Unity. (I guess there's Lubi, but I don't wanna be bothered to have to switch from 1 flavor to another @ boot time).21:00
lordievaderSonikkuAmerica: You could turn of IO APIC. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI21:00
lordievaderNot sure how ease this is for a live-cd/usb.21:01
lordievadereasy*21:01
SonikkuAmericaMust've clicked Cancel instead of OK last time21:02
SonikkuAmericaseems to work now...21:03
lordievaderSonikkuAmerica: Is this a daily or the beta 2?21:04
SonikkuAmericaBeta 221:04
SonikkuAmericaBut apparently it hasn't been configured to work in VBox's IO APIC scope yet. (I got the "IO APIC + timer" thingie)21:04
lordievaderSonikkuAmerica: I think it would be nice to report this to the lubuntu-devs, hmm there is no #lubuntu-dev, maybe they hangout in #lubuntu?21:07
SonikkuAmericaI did. holstein suggested I come here.21:07
SonikkuAmerica*in #lubuntu i.e.21:07
SonikkuAmericaI could hand this off in Launchpad though.21:08
lordievaderSonikkuAmerica: Yes, make a bug report ;)21:08
SonikkuAmericaUnder which project do I need to report it, just "Lubuntu"?21:10
lordievaderSonikkuAmerica: Good question, Lubuntu live-cd?21:12
SonikkuAmericaThere doesn't seem to be a place for that.21:15
maedoxHi guys, having some issues with my session after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04. First login it was useless, but reinstalling nvidia drivers helped. Now I can't get to the Unity launcher. I've tried this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/how-to-restart-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/ to no avail. What's the best way to reset all my profile settings? (Guest login works fine)21:21
wilee-nileemaedox, Some times a reboot maybe a couple is needed with the of so lovely compiz app, if you ran the install and commands correctly, just a guess here.21:23
wilee-nilees'oh/of21:23
maedoxI've rebooted a few times already. Nothing of use in /var/log/syslog either. Anywhere else I should look for clues?21:24
wilee-nileeI'm assuming you are using the repos nvidia drivers here as well. the proprietary will break with a kernel upgrade. maedox21:25
maedoxI guess I should check that, I can't remember what I had before upgrading.21:25
SonikkuAmericawilee-nilee: What does s'oh/of mean anyway.21:25
wilee-nileeoh so lovely was the intent21:26
wilee-nilees=spelling oh is correct of, of21:26
maedoxwilee-nilee: Guest login is fine though, so shouldn't everything break if it were the display drivers?21:26
maedoxwilee-nilee: it says I have version 304.88-0ubuntu121:27
wilee-nileemaedox, Most likely, I just am sharing the problems with using the drivers from nvidia, rather then the repos in general.21:27
wilee-nileemaedox, I have never used nvidia, so looks like greek to me as an american. lol21:28
maedoxMaintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers21:28
maedoxI guess that means I didn't get it from some shady alley repo21:28
maedoxAnd I didn't install it directly from nvidia21:29
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maedoxOK, let me ask a question in another way; Where are my user profile settings stored?  Deleting .gconf does nothing for the situation. I also did dconf reset -f for all dirs in dconf-editor.21:43
maedoxI guess last resort is to just rename my home folder, login, then copy over what I miss. :-|21:44
Georgihello22:16
GeorgiI cannot change my background/wallpaper it is white22:16
Georgican someone help me please22:16
Georgihelllllllloooooooooooo22:17
Georgiis someone here22:17
bjorkintoshi just updated a few minutes ago...22:36
bjorkintoshmy harddrive is fine, but my system fails to boot at all.22:36
bjorkintoshitś telling me ŕeboot and select proper boot device22:37
bjorkintoshis there a reason it would do such a thing?22:37
wilee-nileebjorkintosh, Try another kernel, not sure but there was a grub update yesterday though, could be the problem, especially if you have messed with grub for a custom boot.22:51
SonikkuAmericaḾán, thát'ś á ĺót óf áççéńtś. You may need to figure out where your apostrophe is bjorkintosh.22:54
bjorkintoshhahaha22:54
bjorkintoshsorry about that.22:54
bjorkintoshí ḱńóẃ.22:54
SonikkuAmericaNo prob. I use the Alt Gr version just to avoid making that miśtake.22:54
bjorkintoshit is easily fixed though.22:54
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