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Ergotanyone familiar with VMplayer and 12.04?00:49
LeeDoverwoodNo one around?01:50
Unit193I haven't seen you ask a question.01:50
LeeDoverwoodHi. just wanted to see if anyone was even watching.01:50
LeeDoverwoodyes I do have questions.01:50
LeeDoverwoodI have an HP Pavillion laptop. I would like to use Ubuntu01:51
LeeDoverwoodI had it installed on my last laptop as an alternate OS and liked it very much.01:51
LeeDoverwoodI have been unable to do this on my own.01:52
LeeDoverwoodOr even which version of Ubuntu I should use.01:52
LeeDoverwoodIt seems like most are made for desktops.01:52
Unit193Desktops in the name?  That's for laptops too, just that it isn't the alternate installer.01:53
holsteinLeeDoverwood: just try the one suggested at the maing site live..01:53
LeeDoverwoodI meant the OS where I can use either MS or Ubuntu on bootup01:53
holsteinLeeDoverwood: ubntu is an OS.. .and MS (microsoft windows i assume) is an OS.. you can dual boot them01:54
LeeDoverwoodThere is a main site?01:54
ubot93Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:54
LeeDoverwoodyes I know. But someone did it for me last time.01:54
holsteinLeeDoverwood: sure... maybe someone can do it for you this time.. but we cant.. we are not there01:55
LeeDoverwoodI would start my laptop and then a scree would give me a choice of which one to boot up.01:55
holsteinLeeDoverwood: you can read some information if you would like..01:55
ubot93Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate01:55
LeeDoverwoodI don't have a cd and I tried to make one.01:55
Unit193Could also use a live usb.01:55
LeeDoverwoodsee you are showing me the desktop version01:56
holsteinLeeDoverwood: i would start by backing up your data and plan for failure.. for example.. what happens when you break your windows installation?01:56
holsteinLeeDoverwood: desktop *is* laptop01:56
LeeDoverwoodI thought desktop was desktop and laptop was laptop?01:56
holsteinLeeDoverwood: a laptop has a desktop.. it just means a normal desktop version.. not a server, or alterat01:56
LeeDoverwoodAnd it will work fine with a laptop?01:56
holsteinLeeDoverwood: if you are asking what iso.. the destkop one that i, Unit193 , and the links above suggest are "desktop" and *are* for a laptop01:57
Unit193Yeah, just isn't a server.01:57
LeeDoverwoodOk. that makes sense.01:57
holsteinLeeDoverwood: no, its not "fine"... it *literally* is a desktop version.. a laopt is just a portable desktop machine01:57
holsteinthere is no "laptop" version, though you might find linux versions that say they are "friendly" for laptops due to power usage01:58
LeeDoverwoodI was reading other forums and I took it from the questions that there was a laptop version01:58
holsteinLeeDoverwood: there is *no* laptop version01:58
LeeDoverwoodI got that now.01:58
LeeDoverwoodso thanks for clearing that up.01:58
holsteinLeeDoverwood: there used to be a netbook version.. but that was just the UI.. not anything special about it.. you could run the netbook version on a desktop01:58
Unit193There was a "netbook" version, but that was an early untiy interface, which is now default.01:59
holsteinUI = user interface01:59
LeeDoverwooduntiy ?01:59
holsteinLeeDoverwood: no... the desktop environment... the UI.. the interface.. the look/feel01:59
LeeDoverwoodWhat is untiy?01:59
ubot93Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity01:59
holsteinLeeDoverwood: there are plenty of other desktop environments. such as XFCE which is used in xubuntu... xubuntu is ubuntu with XFCE... it is officially ubuntu as well02:00
ubot93Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels02:00
LeeDoverwoodSo I should save or run the file?02:02
holsteinLeeDoverwood: what file?02:03
Unit193iso, save it.02:03
holsteinLeeDoverwood: the iso?.. you should read the above documentation on "installation". or, just wait and get someone else to do it.. its *not* trivial02:03
holsteinLeeDoverwood: what would you do if you broke windows?.. do you have a windows restore disc? is your data backed up?02:04
LeeDoverwoodUbuntu 12.04.2 amd 64. I am downloading now02:04
LeeDoverwoodNo and no02:04
LeeDoverwoodI have a windows restore in harddrive02:05
holsteinLeeDoverwood: those are things to think about.. as i stated above.. *all* hard drives fail, so its not a waste of time to backup your data02:05
LeeDoverwoodCan't I download and copy to a disk?02:05
LeeDoverwoodNot much data that can't be replaceced02:06
holsteinLeeDoverwood: no... you need to create an installation CD or USB.. copying via dd is one way to create that disck02:06
LeeDoverwoodI have one partial book and that's on a flash drive.02:06
LeeDoverwoodI have a cd that's clean.02:07
holsteinLeeDoverwood: just imagine you hit the power button and *nothing* comes up... not even the restore partition.. that *will* happen someday02:07
Unit193On Windows a good way to make it is linuxliveusb creator.02:07
LeeDoverwoodThen I will buy a new laptop.02:08
holsteinbut, enough of my "you should have a proper backup" speeach... you can read the install link above about how to create bootable media02:08
holsteinLeeDoverwood: you wont need a new laptop, just a new hard drive..02:08
LeeDoverwoodLast time I bought a new laptop I tried to transfer all my data files and it because such a mess I got scarred and paid for carbonite. Then all my videos disappeared.02:09
LeeDoverwoodSorry for typos. I can't see screeen when I am typing.02:09
holsteinLeeDoverwood: good luck!.. im out..02:10
LeeDoverwoodI checked back with carbonite and all my video viles were empty.02:10
holsteinLeeDoverwood: testing the backups is important... a backup it self isnt enough.. you have to check that the data is useable, and actually there02:11
LeeDoverwoodYes I know. When I tested carbonite all my files in my laptop went empty. when I tried to et them back from carbonite they were gone too. Looked all over my drive for them. Never found one. Even in the trash there was nothing of the ones I tried to save.02:12
holsteinbut, this is not #backup ..its just a good idea before doing anything like what you are about to do.. you could blow out the restore partition... but, just read the links i gave, and all will be clear02:12
LeeDoverwoodBasically I just want Ubuntu as an alternate. I want to learn to use it before I turn loose of windows.02:13
LeeDoverwoodUbuntu downloads very slowly02:14
LeeDoverwoodso I can save all my files to a cd?02:14
LeeDoverwoodI have cd's here.02:14
LeeDoverwoodBut I just want my personal files. Not settings and junk for IE or Windows shevel ware02:15
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LeeDoverwoodWell. It's done downloading.02:15
LeeDoverwoodOK. My discs say DVD-R. is this correct type?02:18
LeeDoverwoodcan I burn to these disks?02:18
Unit193Yeah, backup what you need onto a CD or flash.  Just make sure to burn it as the right type.02:18
LeeDoverwoodWhat is the right type?02:18
LeeDoverwoodMaybe there is a better forum?02:20
LeeDoverwoodNo. I mean for Ubuntu02:21
Unit193Not burning from windows?02:21
LeeDoverwoodWell darn. So much for help.02:21
marshalcurehello all02:41
marshalcurei am having a problem with my brand new graphics card02:41
marshalcureis anyone interested in helping a noob out02:41
Unit193What type?  What's the issue?02:42
marshalcurei just bought a gtx 670 from asus and the highest resolution it will give me is 1024x76802:42
marshalcurei did a sudo nvidia update02:43
marshalcurebut did not help02:43
Unit193You've seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto ?02:44
marshalcurewell i have googled for about 2 hours now but i don't think i have seen that video let me take a look.. i dont want to waste your time if that will fix it.02:45
* Unit193 has older cards, nothing like what you have.02:54
marshalcurethanks for your help unit193. i have not found a solution yet but i appreciate you trying. xrandr is not working it wont accept the monitors max resolution.03:07
Unit193In that situation I typically generate an xorg.conf file.03:13
ubot93The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.03:13
Unit193marshalcure: You can also try #ubuntu03:13
marshalcuremight do that03:16
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sadekulhi all, My laptop is HP Pavilion g6, I'm very new in Ubuntu, for the first time i m using ubuntu, I hv installed 12.10 then upgraded it to 13.4. The problem i m facing is wifi is not connecting. But it was perfect with 12.10. Is ther any one can help me?16:50
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eclispseHi guys20:10
centurionhi there, can someone help me with sound issues in Ubuntu 12.04? I have selected the proper hardware in Output tab, but nothing happens22:42
centurionhere is my SALSA profile http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ff7ad93b7598cd8a4b77a9c06b17e8f3b63aebce22:42
ubot93If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.22:42
holsteini usually just open a terminal and run "aplay -l"22:42
holsteinif i see output there, then i know the hardware is showing up.. then i go to alsamixer and i trust *no* lables.. i tweak everything.. i then go to pavucontrol22:43
holsteini also might just load up a few live CD's and if i get sound, make a note of the kernel version and/or alsa version22:43
centurionI tweaked everything22:47
centurionalthough it was @50%22:47
centurionhow should I go to pavucontrol ?22:47
holsteincenturion: i install it, and run it22:48
centurionthank you holstein22:54

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