[01:23] <IdleOne> pleia2: cuff links would be neat IMO a tie clip is also cool
[01:24] <IdleOne> I also own a few money clips. I know now a days everybody uses plastic but I like to carry cash.
[01:57] <IdleOne> SERIOUSLY? https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-videos-captions/ubuntufortablets-fullvideo  We can get translation setup for video captions but not the Code of Conduct?
[02:13] <bkerensa> IdleOne: priorities :P
[02:13] <IdleOne> clearly
[02:14] <IdleOne> I'm going to decide what mine are very soon.
[02:18] <bkerensa> heh
[02:18] <bkerensa> :D
[02:19] <bkerensa> IdleOne: does this mean you will be translating the CoC to Spanish and Portuguese for us? :) *kidding*
[02:22] <IdleOne> bkerensa: I don't know how to get it started but I certainly would get it translated to french if the initial setup was done.
[02:22] <IdleOne> anyway, I'm not sure I care anymore.
[03:53] <pleia2> IdleOne: I thought dholbach took care of configuring CoC translations a few weeks ago
[03:54]  * pleia2 checks
[03:54] <IdleOne> If he did I missed it big time
[03:55] <pleia2> https://code.launchpad.net/~communitycouncil/ubuntu-codeofconduct/trunk
[03:55] <pleia2> Recent revisions
[03:55] <pleia2> 19. By Launchpad Translations on behalf of communitycouncil on 2013-04-07
[03:56] <pleia2> Launchpad automatic translations update.
[03:56] <pleia2> ^^ latest revision
[03:56] <pleia2> I don't really know how this translations stuff works
[03:56] <pleia2> but he and dpm were definitely working on it, if needs more it's a nudge-worthy thing on the thread on ubuntu-translators
[04:00] <IdleOne> Seems I jumped the emotional gun again :(
[04:00] <IdleOne> I'll subscribe and help out as much as I can. thank you pleia2
[04:01] <pleia2> sure :)
[04:39] <IdleOne> en_ca is done.
[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[06:48] <benonsoftware> Afternoon dholbach
[06:49] <dholbach> hey benonsoftware
[06:56] <benonsoftware> How's it going dholbach?
[09:46]  * smartboyhw waves hello!
[09:53] <dpm> hi smartboyhw
[09:56] <dpm> hi czajkowski, I need to discuss adding a task to the opening process of a new distro, and I've been told I need to talk to either wgrant or StevenK. But I think it might be a bit late for them. Do you know if there is someone else at LP I can talk to in the meantime?
[10:00] <dpm> morning popey! I wanted to have a look at the FB blueprint in preparation for the meeting. Do you have the new link to the blueprint handy?
[10:00] <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-facebook-development
[10:01] <dpm> excellent, thanks!
[10:02] <popey> np
[10:04] <dpm> popey, it make be an idea to add a link to the blueprint to the meeting description in Google calendar, so that everyone has it when they get the e-mail reminder (just a suggestion, if you think it makes sense)
[10:04] <popey> good call
[10:05] <popey> I'll do that for all the others in a bit, will force everyone to get a nudge too ㋛
[10:05] <popey> actually, will do it now, keep an eye on -meeting pls
[10:05] <dpm> ok
[10:09] <popey> done
[10:32] <dpm> great!
[11:32] <czajkowski> dpm talk to wgrant or stevenk both may be aroind or mail them. am in italy :)
[15:34] <philipballew> Morning Ubuntu
[15:35] <chilicuil> morning philipballew
[15:35] <philipballew> chilicuil, how goes the day?
[15:36] <chilicuil> philipballew: pretty cool, hope you are also having a nice day
[15:37] <philipballew> chilicuil, I am. Just attempting to finish up the college year.
[15:38] <smartboyhw> philipballew, add oil:)
[15:38] <smartboyhw> add oil = good luck (in Cantonese)
[15:39] <philipballew> smartboyhw, Thats really cool to know. What country is that spoken in?
[15:46] <smartboyhw> philipballew, China (actually only in Guangdong Province and Hong Kong0
[15:47] <philipballew> smartboyhw, oh tight. I have never been there. I bet the food is good.
[15:48] <smartboyhw> philipballew, yep:)
[15:50] <philipballew> smartboyhw, That's tight. Never been outside North America.
[17:44] <dholbach> all right - calling it a day
[17:44] <dholbach> see you tomorrow
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know anyone who works on omgubuntu?
[18:48] <pleia2> bkerensa has published some articles
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> i believe they've prematurely posted an article stating Wubi being dropped in 13.04, but that discussion's invalid.
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> s/discussion/post/
[18:48] <pleia2> Wubi is being dropped
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> pleia2, erm...
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> then the devel list is in conflict
[18:48] <Pici> The mailing list doesn't exactly make that clear.
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[18:48] <TheLordOfTime> erm...
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> mislink
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/036993.html
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> ^ there
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> and the corresponding discussion
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> it seems there's overall SUPPORT for dropping, but still discussion on the issue
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> which isn't the same as a decision to drop
[18:49] <TheLordOfTime> or should i ping -devel to see whether they've come up with a decision?
[18:50] <TheLordOfTime> based on what the mailing list says, there's insufficient evidence to say "Oh, wubi's dropped"
[18:50] <pleia2> I am aware of the discussion, there hasn't been anyone to step up to maintain it
[18:51] <pleia2> without that, you can come up with all the reasons in the world to keep it and it won't happen
[18:51] <TheLordOfTime> does that imply "It's being dropped" is being the decision
[18:51] <bkerensa> TheLordOfTime: The builds were already dropped
[18:51] <bkerensa> so it is officially dropped from raring
[18:51] <chilicuil> the post in OMG say that "is likely", so I think it describes the current situation
[18:51] <TheLordOfTime> bkerensa, then did I miss a massive post on the devel announce list?
[18:51] <pleia2> and it's no longer part of tests
[18:52] <TheLordOfTime> it sounds like wubi being dropped would warrant a post on the devel-announce list
[18:52] <pleia2> for installing
[18:52] <bkerensa> chilicuil: that post was when slangasek had originally sent the e-mail
[18:52] <TheLordOfTime> and i haven't seen that yet.
[18:52] <Pici> fwiw, The current state of the discussion on the list doesn't really make it clear.
[18:52] <bkerensa> TheLordOfTime: its in the thread if you read the whole convo they said it was dropped
[18:52] <bkerensa> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/037000.html
[18:52] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/037000.html
[18:52] <pleia2> yeah
[18:53]  * Pici shrugs
[18:53] <bkerensa> Done. I have disabled daily builds of Wubi for everything but Ubuntu
[18:53] <bkerensa> 12.04, removed any existing build from the QA Tracker and removed Wubi
[18:53] <bkerensa> from the 13.04 manifest.  - Stephane Graber
[18:53] <TheLordOfTime> then someone forgot to mail that to the devel-announce list
[18:53] <TheLordOfTime> because that's something that would warrant an "announcement"
[18:53] <TheLordOfTime> no?
[18:53] <bkerensa> TheLordOfTime: It will be announced in the release notes and release announcement which occurs on devel-announce
[18:54] <bkerensa> every little dropped package and change is not warranted for its own announcement
[18:55] <TheLordOfTime> bkerensa, bleh, part of me would love to give the devel team a part of my mind about that, because dropping Wubi isn't like dropping a package or changing a package, that's a MAJOR change.
[18:56] <pleia2> it's not really a developer-focused announcement
[18:56] <pleia2> perhaps you want to ask them to blog about it, or submit an article to fridge so users are aware without reading the release notes?
[18:56] <popey> i suspect any blog post anyone makes wont get as much exposure as the omg article already has, so it's somewhat moot
[18:57] <pleia2> popey: I had the impression he wanted something "official"
[18:57] <popey> as bkerensa says, release notes are official
[18:57] <bkerensa> yes
[18:58] <pleia2> there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview#Ubuntu_downloader_for_Windows_discontinued
[18:58] <popey> its a development release, which is released in ~2 weeks, so it'll be announced then
[18:58] <bkerensa> developers do not have time to announce every small or major change as things go on.... this will allowed us to get nothing done at all
[18:58] <pleia2> included in beta2 announcement
[18:58] <popey> bingo
[18:58] <bkerensa> well there you have it
[18:58] <bkerensa> :D
[18:58] <pleia2> TheLordOfTime: if you want an official link that one is probably it ^^
[18:58] <bkerensa> pleia2: <slangasek> well, that's why it's highlighted in the beta release notes
[18:58] <bkerensa> you win :)
[18:59] <popey> steve himself added it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview?action=diff&rev2=230&rev1=229
[18:59] <pleia2> I think people only read release notes when they want to complain about us calling it the Ubuntu kernel :)
[18:59] <popey> \o/ Ubuntu kernel
[19:00] <pleia2> Debian kernel \o/
[19:00] <popey> \o/ Fedora Kernel
[19:00] <popey> *\o/* *\o/* *\o/*
[19:00] <bkerensa> oh dear dancing emoticons
[19:01]  * popey gets down with his bad self
[19:05] <popey> hmm, UDS Brussels was May 2010 wasn't it?
[19:05] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M yes!
[19:05] <popey> so my mum has been on Ubuntu for 3 years now
[19:08] <mhall119> she hasn't switch to Arch yet?
[19:09] <jcastro> https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/coins/landing.html?ref_=pe_132830_29076940
[19:09] <jcastro> I think amazon just launch xbox live points.
[19:19] <mhall119> 3/w 24
[19:34] <popey> look like bitcoins to me
[21:13] <bkerensa> is anyone else getting old twitter notifications coming on their desktop? Seems like every tweet I got for the last half year just spammed my desktop
[21:16] <chilicuil> if you're testing the latest ubuntu dev version and the new gwibber app, yep, that's the way it works, bkerensa
[21:17] <bkerensa> chilicuil: wat? It re-displays tweets you have already seen that are months old?
[21:18] <SergioMeneses> hi everybody!
[21:18] <chilicuil> hello SergioMeneses
[21:18] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, \o
[21:19] <bkerensa> chilicuil: ^^
[21:19] <chilicuil> yep bkerensa
[21:19] <bkerensa> huh