[19:23] <cqfd93> hello carsteng!
[19:25] <CarstenG> cqfd93: Hi Sylvie!
[19:27] <cqfd93> I started proofreading "Reading and composing mail" in chapter 3
[19:27] <cqfd93> and added 2 screenshots
[19:38] <CarstenG> Great.
[19:42] <CarstenG> I guess my VM installation of raring is broken. Sometimes I get only a black screen after login...
[19:43] <CarstenG> I think, I will redo a complete installation in the VM.
[19:43] <cqfd93> :-(
[19:44] <CarstenG> Which program do you use for virtualisation?
[19:47] <cqfd93> I use virtualbox
[19:47] <cqfd93> In chapter 3, the paragraph that describes how to setup an account in thunderbird is missing the case where thunderbird fails to automatically detect the imap/pop/smtp servers
[19:47] <cqfd93> it says: "Once completed, click the \button{continue} button. \application{Thunderbird} will automatically set up your email account for you. When \application{Thunderbird} finishes detecting your email settings, click \button{create account} and \application{Thunderbird} will do the rest."
[19:48] <cqfd93> and each time I had to setup real mail accounts, it failed :-(
[19:57] <CarstenG> Well, maybe we should give a marginnote to a thunderbird forum for detailed support in this case?
[19:59] <CarstenG> I used QEMU for virtualisation until today. But I will give virtualbox a try.
[20:05] <cqfd93> I think it would be better to briefly explain what to do, because this is a problem lots of users will run into
[20:07] <cqfd93> but a margingnote  to a forum will help if everything else fails
[20:08] <CarstenG> ok, sounds good.
[20:09] <CarstenG> So I had always the luck that it worked as expected. :-) I guess it depend on your email provider...
[20:10] <CarstenG> ... if it is in the thunderbird database.
[20:23] <cqfd93> it also depends on the ISP which provides the smtp service
[20:27] <CarstenG> Yes? e.g I have GMX as email provider. But this has nothing to do with my ISP, or?
[20:34] <cqfd93> If you use smtp on port 25, your ISP relays your outgoing mail and you have to use their smtp
[20:36] <cqfd93> but on a laptop that can be used through different ISPs, you have to use your email address provider's authenticated smtp (most often on port 587 or 465)
[20:36] <cqfd93> and thunderbird will not detect that
[20:37] <cqfd93> so you have to setup the account manually
[20:37] <CarstenG> ah, ok
[20:37] <CarstenG> I use 465
[20:37] <CarstenG> so I had no problems...
[20:38] <cqfd93> did thunderbird autodetect your pop/smtp settings?
[20:40] <CarstenG> yes
[20:40] <cqfd93> lucky you! :-)
[21:05] <cqfd93> CarstenG: what do you think of that?
[21:05] <cqfd93> If Thunderbird fails to create the account, you may need to configure it manually, using the parameters that were sent to you by your email address provider and your ISP. If you are still unable to set up your account, you can get help on the forum...
[21:19] <CarstenG> yes, sounds good :-)
[21:28] <cqfd93> OK, I'll do that this weekend, for now it's time to go to bed.
[21:28] <cqfd93> Good night!