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balloonsphillw, gnome = jbicha01:11
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phillwballoons: I sort of guessed that, but it is better asked in their channel :)01:29
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SergioMenesesballoons, ping02:21
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balloonsSergioMeneses, howdy03:01
SergioMenesesballoons, did you need me?03:02
SergioMenesesAFKseeee03:04
SergioMenesesmmm....03:04
balloonsSergioMeneses, ah.. no we're all set03:05
balloonsbrasero is merged :-)03:05
SergioMenesesballoons, perfect!03:05
balloonsquite a nice testcase03:05
balloonsi even found a bug running through it03:05
balloonswhich is always good.. :-003:06
SergioMenesesballoons, a huge testcase03:06
SergioMeneses:O03:06
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pittiGood morning05:48
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jibelgood morning06:40
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dholbachgood morning06:48
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pittibonjour jibel07:06
pittihey dholbach07:06
pittijibel: nice progress yesterday!07:06
jibelpitti, dholbach bonjour07:07
dholbachsalut mes amis07:08
jibelpitti, thanks. About stdin test for python2.7 what do you think is the right fix? skip the test if stdin is redirected?07:09
pittijibel: or fix the test to not use stdin, but an fd created by itself07:10
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smartboyhwHiyas Noskcaj10:03
Noskcajhey smartboyhw. FYI i can only be on for 20min10:03
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smartboyhwNoskcaj, I wrote a testimonial for you:) I asked balloons and SergioMenesesAFK to do that, but they haven't:)10:04
Noskcajthanks, i'd asked balloons but he hadn't had time. i just hope i will be able to make the meeting (school and sleeping make it hard)10:05
smartboyhwNoskcaj, :)10:10
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Noskcajthanks for adding yourself to the whoweare smartboyhw10:18
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xnoxraring-desktop-i386-smoke-lvm failed, but it's in failure command due to not able to resolve the internet domains correctly to fetch the new packages.11:12
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smartboyhwIf any people haven't added themselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre please do:)13:00
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plarscjwatson: ssh to cdimage gets through the firewall now for me, but now I'm getting nothing returned by the command I'm telling it to run. If I try to ssh without a command to run on the other end, I get back "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0" Is that something IS needs to fix still? or is there something I need to do to work around that14:54
cjwatsonplars: what command were you trying to run?14:56
cjwatsonnot seeing any logs on my end14:57
cjwatsonthough I can't read auth.log14:57
plarscjwatson: at first I was just trying to have it run "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help", but I even tried something like "uname -a" to see if it was just the command14:57
cjwatsonwell, that certainly ought to have worked14:58
cjwatsonlet me ask IS to help investigate14:58
cjwatsonI mean, the former should have given you something14:59
smartboyhwballoons, ping15:08
balloonssmartboyhw, pong15:08
smartboyhwballoons, should we go and get some events again for testing before Final release?15:09
balloonssmartboyhw, we could consider doing something15:09
balloonswhat were you thinking?15:09
smartboyhwballoons, good question, hadn't thought about that:P15:09
balloonsI thought i had till today to put noskcaj's testimonial in.. but I see he was accepted ;-)15:10
balloonshe got one from me anyway :-)15:11
balloonserr wait15:11
balloonsno I'm good :-) sweetness15:11
smartboyhwballoons, accepted what!?15:11
* balloons is confused :-)15:11
balloonshe gets voted on tonight15:11
balloonswhich is err sometime tomorrow for you15:12
balloonssee how this is confusing?15:12
smartboyhwballoons, srsly?15:12
* smartboyhw needs to check on the date.15:12
smartboyhwballoons, no15:12
balloonswait.. I'm confused again15:12
balloonsyea, he has 3 weeks to wait15:12
smartboyhwThe next meeting should be the first Thursday of May :P15:12
balloonshe missed april15:12
balloonslololol15:12
smartboyhwlolololololol15:12
balloonsanyways, yes, thoughts?15:13
smartboyhwballoons, Google+ Hangouts again?:P15:14
smartboyhwOr just simple IRC support?15:14
balloonsboth are fun15:14
smartboyhwballoons, and both of them are good.15:15
smartboyhwballoons, possibly best to go ask in ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com what to do:)15:16
balloonssure, that's an idea15:16
balloonsbut you'll need to pitch a few different things for best results15:17
smartboyhwballoons, speaking of this, do you remember an very old action item that traces it's roots back to the time when we have IRC meetings?15:17
smartboyhwUpdate qa.ubuntu.com :P15:17
smartboyhwballoons, we can pitch:P15:17
cjwatsonplars: I've added some debugging at my end.  Could you try again with "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help"?15:18
smartboyhwballoons, you updated the "getting involved" page15:18
plarscjwatson: same result, I get no output from it15:18
smartboyhwBut in the main page you didn't update the box "Join Ubuntu QA:"15:18
cjwatsonI wasn't expecting any change at your end15:18
cjwatsonBut it's given me a log to prove that it's getting through to my code15:19
smartboyhwIt still has meetings and the old mailling list (ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com)15:19
plarscjwatson: gotcha15:20
cjwatsonplars: try again (https://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-cdimage/revision/1237)15:25
plarscjwatson: that works now, thanks!15:27
cjwatsonplars: I'd suggest trying a real (if no-op) operation too15:30
cjwatsonplars: e.g. /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 2013041115:31
cjwatson(or '-i daily-live' instead of '-t desktop' if that's the form you'll be preferring)15:31
plarscjwatson: I was trying to see if I could work out the right set of options15:31
plarsmark-current: error: unrecognised project 'ubuntu'15:33
plarscjwatson: ^15:33
balloonssmartboyhw, yes I know ;)15:33
cjwatsonerrr15:34
smartboyhwballoons, :P15:37
cjwatsonplars: working on it, fwiw, some complications15:53
plarscjwatson: np15:54
cjwatsonplars: try again15:58
plarscjwatson: mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 20130411: success16:01
plars:)16:01
cjwatsonplars: the delay was me adding that output, upon deciding that Unix silent-on-success behaviour was unhelpful here16:01
cjwatson(especially as it was also silent-on-failure)16:01
plarscjwatson: thanks for that, it's nice to have some feedback that it worked16:03
jrrI'd like to draw some attention to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/106659116:04
ubot5Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged]16:04
jrrcheck out the attached screenshot16:04
jrrhilariously bad experience for anyone who manages to get an xpm icon in their xfce application menu16:05
balloonsjrr.. ohh.. no scaling on the icons eh?16:06
dholbachgema, happy birthday! :)16:59
jrroh cool the xpm scaling issue affects unity as well http://imgur.com/0gE4Vop18:06
jrrwhat package would that be?18:06
jrr(sidenode - it's too hard to find/file a bug like this)18:06
jrrs/node/note/18:09
balloonsjrr, that's crazy18:34
balloonsbut I don't see that happening to me18:34
balloonsumm.. hmm18:34
balloonsanything else besides nvidia causing the issue?18:34
jrrballoons: do you have any .desktop things pointing to .xpm icons?18:50
jrrI can give you mine if you'd like to test18:50
balloonsjrr, just wondering if there was any that people could use to confirm18:50
balloonsI'd be happy to confirm it as well18:51
jrrI filed this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/116808118:51
ubot5Launchpad bug 1168081 in unity (Ubuntu) "xpm icon not scaling" [Undecided,New]18:51
balloonshence my asking :-)18:51
jrrsure, just a sec18:51
jrrballoons: okay, attached to the above-linked bug18:55
* balloons looks18:55
jrrI suspect you need only edit one of your existing .desktops and point it to the xpm18:55
balloonsok, and this is a regression.. it scaled in quantal, precise, etc?18:56
jrrI don't know when/if it worked correctly, but I have it occuring on updated 12.10 and 13.0418:57
jrrballoons: repro?18:59
* balloons wonders if xpm's ever scaled19:01
balloonsjrr, not yet19:03
balloonsjrr, hmm so trying in unity without luck yet19:05
jrrI think you might need to log out/in for it to take if you edit an existing .desktop19:06
balloonsrofl19:06
balloonsconfirmed19:07
jrr=D19:07
jrrit's pretty jarring19:07
jrrit's even better on xfce https://launchpadlibrarian.net/136987534/xfce_big_icon_2.png19:07
balloonsjrr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/106659119:08
ubot5Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged]19:08
balloonsthere's something underlying this19:09
jrrin earlier googling I found references to gdk-pixbuf19:10
balloonsfrom mutliple reports, this started in 12.10.. yes, it's underlying gtk issue19:10
balloonshttps://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68651419:11
ubot5Gnome bug 686514 in general "gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale() fails to scale xpm images" [Normal,Unconfirmed]19:11
balloonslooks like there is a fix.. you could link it and try and get a patch in19:11
balloonsalso https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 is relevant to you19:12
ubot5bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9615 in Libxfce4panel "When using an Image as an icon (.xpm), XFCE does not resize in the popup menu" [Normal,New]19:12
balloonsprobably should dupe your new bug, link to the old bugs and add those upstream links to them :-19:12
balloonsmake sense?19:12
balloonsthen if your really ambitious, try the upstream patch out..19:13
jrrnot that ambitious19:16
jrrmaybe when I have some time this weekend19:16
balloons:-) no worries.. that was fun to track down19:17
jrrwhere'd you find the link to the gnome bug?19:17
balloonsI browsed around on there trackers19:18
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balloonshello Noskcaj, Letozaf20:20
balloonsNoskcaj, meet Devo-Kun . He's interested in xubuntu autopilot tests20:21
Noskcajhey balloons, i think i found some new autopilot guys ;)20:21
balloonsNoskcaj, :-)20:21
Noskcajhello Devo-Kun20:21
Devo-KunHi20:21
Letozafballoons, Noskcaj  Hello!20:21
balloonsLetozaf is our resident autopilot expert!20:21
* balloons smiles20:21
Noskcajballoons, sorry to put you in charge of all this after i started it, i'm oing to be away till sunday20:22
Noskcajand Letozaf, same apology20:22
* Letozaf smiles20:22
balloonsNoskcaj, lol.. recruiting new minds never needs an apology20:22
balloonsSo Devo-Kun several ways to go from here. if you've never seen how autopilot works, feel free to branch the project and run some of them20:23
balloonsor run some of the unity tests on your box already20:23
Devo-KunOK20:24
Devo-KunIs this the Wiki page you mentioned? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Autopilot20:24
Noskcajyep,20:24
Devo-KunGreat!20:25
balloonsif something is confusing you can blame me, but then let me know.. I'd be happy to fix :-)20:26
LetozafDevo-Kun, nice to meet you, if you need help   just ping me :)20:33
Devo-KunThanks!20:33
Devo-KunI will.20:33
Devo-KunI'm going to dig in to the AutoPilot stuff a little later.20:33
Devo-KunIs there a place where the AutoPilot tests that already exist for Xubuntu are stored?20:34
Devo-KunAnd is there a place where "user stories" for potential new AutoPilot tests are listed?20:34
balloonsDevo-Kun, at the moment, there are none targetted for xubuntu20:37
Devo-KunFair enough.20:37
balloonswe use the trello board for potentials.. however, any existing manual testcase is game20:37
Devo-KunThat's probably the reason for the recruitment effort on the Xubuntu-dev mailing list ;)20:37
balloonsmany of our first tests were conversion so to speak from the manual tests20:37
balloonshttps://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/20:38
balloonsthat has all of the manual testcases in it20:38
balloonsso in general I would start by targetting the default applications for xubuntu20:39
balloonsand you'll probably want to start with a simple one20:39
balloonsgnumeric and abiword are probably a bit more complex for example20:40
balloonsleafpad is probably simpler20:40
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NoskcajDevo-Kun, if no-one has answered your question. xubuntu has nothing auto-pilot related so-far. the best thing to start with would be porting the gedit testcase to leafpad20:51
Devo-KunNoskaj, that's good advice. I'll check that out.20:51
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