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balloons | phillw, gnome = jbicha | 01:11 |
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phillw | balloons: I sort of guessed that, but it is better asked in their channel :) | 01:29 |
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SergioMeneses | balloons, ping | 02:21 |
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balloons | SergioMeneses, howdy | 03:01 |
SergioMeneses | balloons, did you need me? | 03:02 |
SergioMenesesAFK | seeee | 03:04 |
SergioMeneses | mmm.... | 03:04 |
balloons | SergioMeneses, ah.. no we're all set | 03:05 |
balloons | brasero is merged :-) | 03:05 |
SergioMeneses | balloons, perfect! | 03:05 |
balloons | quite a nice testcase | 03:05 |
balloons | i even found a bug running through it | 03:05 |
balloons | which is always good.. :-0 | 03:06 |
SergioMeneses | balloons, a huge testcase | 03:06 |
SergioMeneses | :O | 03:06 |
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pitti | Good morning | 05:48 |
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jibel | good morning | 06:40 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:48 |
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pitti | bonjour jibel | 07:06 |
pitti | hey dholbach | 07:06 |
pitti | jibel: nice progress yesterday! | 07:06 |
jibel | pitti, dholbach bonjour | 07:07 |
dholbach | salut mes amis | 07:08 |
jibel | pitti, thanks. About stdin test for python2.7 what do you think is the right fix? skip the test if stdin is redirected? | 07:09 |
pitti | jibel: or fix the test to not use stdin, but an fd created by itself | 07:10 |
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smartboyhw | Hiyas Noskcaj | 10:03 |
Noskcaj | hey smartboyhw. FYI i can only be on for 20min | 10:03 |
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smartboyhw | Noskcaj, I wrote a testimonial for you:) I asked balloons and SergioMenesesAFK to do that, but they haven't:) | 10:04 |
Noskcaj | thanks, i'd asked balloons but he hadn't had time. i just hope i will be able to make the meeting (school and sleeping make it hard) | 10:05 |
smartboyhw | Noskcaj, :) | 10:10 |
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Noskcaj | thanks for adding yourself to the whoweare smartboyhw | 10:18 |
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xnox | raring-desktop-i386-smoke-lvm failed, but it's in failure command due to not able to resolve the internet domains correctly to fetch the new packages. | 11:12 |
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smartboyhw | If any people haven't added themselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre please do:) | 13:00 |
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plars | cjwatson: ssh to cdimage gets through the firewall now for me, but now I'm getting nothing returned by the command I'm telling it to run. If I try to ssh without a command to run on the other end, I get back "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0" Is that something IS needs to fix still? or is there something I need to do to work around that | 14:54 |
cjwatson | plars: what command were you trying to run? | 14:56 |
cjwatson | not seeing any logs on my end | 14:57 |
cjwatson | though I can't read auth.log | 14:57 |
plars | cjwatson: at first I was just trying to have it run "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help", but I even tried something like "uname -a" to see if it was just the command | 14:57 |
cjwatson | well, that certainly ought to have worked | 14:58 |
cjwatson | let me ask IS to help investigate | 14:58 |
cjwatson | I mean, the former should have given you something | 14:59 |
smartboyhw | balloons, ping | 15:08 |
balloons | smartboyhw, pong | 15:08 |
smartboyhw | balloons, should we go and get some events again for testing before Final release? | 15:09 |
balloons | smartboyhw, we could consider doing something | 15:09 |
balloons | what were you thinking? | 15:09 |
smartboyhw | balloons, good question, hadn't thought about that:P | 15:09 |
balloons | I thought i had till today to put noskcaj's testimonial in.. but I see he was accepted ;-) | 15:10 |
balloons | he got one from me anyway :-) | 15:11 |
balloons | err wait | 15:11 |
balloons | no I'm good :-) sweetness | 15:11 |
smartboyhw | balloons, accepted what!? | 15:11 |
* balloons is confused :-) | 15:11 | |
balloons | he gets voted on tonight | 15:11 |
balloons | which is err sometime tomorrow for you | 15:12 |
balloons | see how this is confusing? | 15:12 |
smartboyhw | balloons, srsly? | 15:12 |
* smartboyhw needs to check on the date. | 15:12 | |
smartboyhw | balloons, no | 15:12 |
balloons | wait.. I'm confused again | 15:12 |
balloons | yea, he has 3 weeks to wait | 15:12 |
smartboyhw | The next meeting should be the first Thursday of May :P | 15:12 |
balloons | he missed april | 15:12 |
balloons | lololol | 15:12 |
smartboyhw | lolololololol | 15:12 |
balloons | anyways, yes, thoughts? | 15:13 |
smartboyhw | balloons, Google+ Hangouts again?:P | 15:14 |
smartboyhw | Or just simple IRC support? | 15:14 |
balloons | both are fun | 15:14 |
smartboyhw | balloons, and both of them are good. | 15:15 |
smartboyhw | balloons, possibly best to go ask in ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com what to do:) | 15:16 |
balloons | sure, that's an idea | 15:16 |
balloons | but you'll need to pitch a few different things for best results | 15:17 |
smartboyhw | balloons, speaking of this, do you remember an very old action item that traces it's roots back to the time when we have IRC meetings? | 15:17 |
smartboyhw | Update qa.ubuntu.com :P | 15:17 |
smartboyhw | balloons, we can pitch:P | 15:17 |
cjwatson | plars: I've added some debugging at my end. Could you try again with "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help"? | 15:18 |
smartboyhw | balloons, you updated the "getting involved" page | 15:18 |
plars | cjwatson: same result, I get no output from it | 15:18 |
smartboyhw | But in the main page you didn't update the box "Join Ubuntu QA:" | 15:18 |
cjwatson | I wasn't expecting any change at your end | 15:18 |
cjwatson | But it's given me a log to prove that it's getting through to my code | 15:19 |
smartboyhw | It still has meetings and the old mailling list (ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com) | 15:19 |
plars | cjwatson: gotcha | 15:20 |
cjwatson | plars: try again (https://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-cdimage/revision/1237) | 15:25 |
plars | cjwatson: that works now, thanks! | 15:27 |
cjwatson | plars: I'd suggest trying a real (if no-op) operation too | 15:30 |
cjwatson | plars: e.g. /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 20130411 | 15:31 |
cjwatson | (or '-i daily-live' instead of '-t desktop' if that's the form you'll be preferring) | 15:31 |
plars | cjwatson: I was trying to see if I could work out the right set of options | 15:31 |
plars | mark-current: error: unrecognised project 'ubuntu' | 15:33 |
plars | cjwatson: ^ | 15:33 |
balloons | smartboyhw, yes I know ;) | 15:33 |
cjwatson | errr | 15:34 |
smartboyhw | balloons, :P | 15:37 |
cjwatson | plars: working on it, fwiw, some complications | 15:53 |
plars | cjwatson: np | 15:54 |
cjwatson | plars: try again | 15:58 |
plars | cjwatson: mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 20130411: success | 16:01 |
plars | :) | 16:01 |
cjwatson | plars: the delay was me adding that output, upon deciding that Unix silent-on-success behaviour was unhelpful here | 16:01 |
cjwatson | (especially as it was also silent-on-failure) | 16:01 |
plars | cjwatson: thanks for that, it's nice to have some feedback that it worked | 16:03 |
jrr | I'd like to draw some attention to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1066591 | 16:04 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged] | 16:04 |
jrr | check out the attached screenshot | 16:04 |
jrr | hilariously bad experience for anyone who manages to get an xpm icon in their xfce application menu | 16:05 |
balloons | jrr.. ohh.. no scaling on the icons eh? | 16:06 |
dholbach | gema, happy birthday! :) | 16:59 |
jrr | oh cool the xpm scaling issue affects unity as well http://imgur.com/0gE4Vop | 18:06 |
jrr | what package would that be? | 18:06 |
jrr | (sidenode - it's too hard to find/file a bug like this) | 18:06 |
jrr | s/node/note/ | 18:09 |
balloons | jrr, that's crazy | 18:34 |
balloons | but I don't see that happening to me | 18:34 |
balloons | umm.. hmm | 18:34 |
balloons | anything else besides nvidia causing the issue? | 18:34 |
jrr | balloons: do you have any .desktop things pointing to .xpm icons? | 18:50 |
jrr | I can give you mine if you'd like to test | 18:50 |
balloons | jrr, just wondering if there was any that people could use to confirm | 18:50 |
balloons | I'd be happy to confirm it as well | 18:51 |
jrr | I filed this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1168081 | 18:51 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1168081 in unity (Ubuntu) "xpm icon not scaling" [Undecided,New] | 18:51 |
balloons | hence my asking :-) | 18:51 |
jrr | sure, just a sec | 18:51 |
jrr | balloons: okay, attached to the above-linked bug | 18:55 |
* balloons looks | 18:55 | |
jrr | I suspect you need only edit one of your existing .desktops and point it to the xpm | 18:55 |
balloons | ok, and this is a regression.. it scaled in quantal, precise, etc? | 18:56 |
jrr | I don't know when/if it worked correctly, but I have it occuring on updated 12.10 and 13.04 | 18:57 |
jrr | balloons: repro? | 18:59 |
* balloons wonders if xpm's ever scaled | 19:01 | |
balloons | jrr, not yet | 19:03 |
balloons | jrr, hmm so trying in unity without luck yet | 19:05 |
jrr | I think you might need to log out/in for it to take if you edit an existing .desktop | 19:06 |
balloons | rofl | 19:06 |
balloons | confirmed | 19:07 |
jrr | =D | 19:07 |
jrr | it's pretty jarring | 19:07 |
jrr | it's even better on xfce https://launchpadlibrarian.net/136987534/xfce_big_icon_2.png | 19:07 |
balloons | jrr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1066591 | 19:08 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged] | 19:08 |
balloons | there's something underlying this | 19:09 |
jrr | in earlier googling I found references to gdk-pixbuf | 19:10 |
balloons | from mutliple reports, this started in 12.10.. yes, it's underlying gtk issue | 19:10 |
balloons | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686514 | 19:11 |
ubot5 | Gnome bug 686514 in general "gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale() fails to scale xpm images" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 19:11 |
balloons | looks like there is a fix.. you could link it and try and get a patch in | 19:11 |
balloons | also https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 is relevant to you | 19:12 |
ubot5 | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9615 in Libxfce4panel "When using an Image as an icon (.xpm), XFCE does not resize in the popup menu" [Normal,New] | 19:12 |
balloons | probably should dupe your new bug, link to the old bugs and add those upstream links to them :- | 19:12 |
balloons | make sense? | 19:12 |
balloons | then if your really ambitious, try the upstream patch out.. | 19:13 |
jrr | not that ambitious | 19:16 |
jrr | maybe when I have some time this weekend | 19:16 |
balloons | :-) no worries.. that was fun to track down | 19:17 |
jrr | where'd you find the link to the gnome bug? | 19:17 |
balloons | I browsed around on there trackers | 19:18 |
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balloons | hello Noskcaj, Letozaf | 20:20 |
balloons | Noskcaj, meet Devo-Kun . He's interested in xubuntu autopilot tests | 20:21 |
Noskcaj | hey balloons, i think i found some new autopilot guys ;) | 20:21 |
balloons | Noskcaj, :-) | 20:21 |
Noskcaj | hello Devo-Kun | 20:21 |
Devo-Kun | Hi | 20:21 |
Letozaf | balloons, Noskcaj Hello! | 20:21 |
balloons | Letozaf is our resident autopilot expert! | 20:21 |
* balloons smiles | 20:21 | |
Noskcaj | balloons, sorry to put you in charge of all this after i started it, i'm oing to be away till sunday | 20:22 |
Noskcaj | and Letozaf, same apology | 20:22 |
* Letozaf smiles | 20:22 | |
balloons | Noskcaj, lol.. recruiting new minds never needs an apology | 20:22 |
balloons | So Devo-Kun several ways to go from here. if you've never seen how autopilot works, feel free to branch the project and run some of them | 20:23 |
balloons | or run some of the unity tests on your box already | 20:23 |
Devo-Kun | OK | 20:24 |
Devo-Kun | Is this the Wiki page you mentioned? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Autopilot | 20:24 |
Noskcaj | yep, | 20:24 |
Devo-Kun | Great! | 20:25 |
balloons | if something is confusing you can blame me, but then let me know.. I'd be happy to fix :-) | 20:26 |
Letozaf | Devo-Kun, nice to meet you, if you need help just ping me :) | 20:33 |
Devo-Kun | Thanks! | 20:33 |
Devo-Kun | I will. | 20:33 |
Devo-Kun | I'm going to dig in to the AutoPilot stuff a little later. | 20:33 |
Devo-Kun | Is there a place where the AutoPilot tests that already exist for Xubuntu are stored? | 20:34 |
Devo-Kun | And is there a place where "user stories" for potential new AutoPilot tests are listed? | 20:34 |
balloons | Devo-Kun, at the moment, there are none targetted for xubuntu | 20:37 |
Devo-Kun | Fair enough. | 20:37 |
balloons | we use the trello board for potentials.. however, any existing manual testcase is game | 20:37 |
Devo-Kun | That's probably the reason for the recruitment effort on the Xubuntu-dev mailing list ;) | 20:37 |
balloons | many of our first tests were conversion so to speak from the manual tests | 20:37 |
balloons | https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/ | 20:38 |
balloons | that has all of the manual testcases in it | 20:38 |
balloons | so in general I would start by targetting the default applications for xubuntu | 20:39 |
balloons | and you'll probably want to start with a simple one | 20:39 |
balloons | gnumeric and abiword are probably a bit more complex for example | 20:40 |
balloons | leafpad is probably simpler | 20:40 |
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Noskcaj | Devo-Kun, if no-one has answered your question. xubuntu has nothing auto-pilot related so-far. the best thing to start with would be porting the gedit testcase to leafpad | 20:51 |
Devo-Kun | Noskaj, that's good advice. I'll check that out. | 20:51 |
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