=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [01:11] phillw, gnome = jbicha === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [01:29] balloons: I sort of guessed that, but it is better asked in their channel :) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [02:21] balloons, ping === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [03:01] SergioMeneses, howdy [03:02] balloons, did you need me? [03:04] seeee [03:04] mmm.... [03:05] SergioMeneses, ah.. no we're all set [03:05] brasero is merged :-) [03:05] balloons, perfect! [03:05] quite a nice testcase [03:05] i even found a bug running through it [03:06] which is always good.. :-0 [03:06] balloons, a huge testcase [03:06] :O === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [05:48] Good morning === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [06:40] good morning === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [06:48] good morning === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [07:06] bonjour jibel [07:06] hey dholbach [07:06] jibel: nice progress yesterday! [07:07] pitti, dholbach bonjour [07:08] salut mes amis [07:09] pitti, thanks. About stdin test for python2.7 what do you think is the right fix? skip the test if stdin is redirected? [07:10] jibel: or fix the test to not use stdin, but an fd created by itself === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [10:03] Hiyas Noskcaj [10:03] hey smartboyhw. FYI i can only be on for 20min === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [10:04] Noskcaj, I wrote a testimonial for you:) I asked balloons and SergioMenesesAFK to do that, but they haven't:) [10:05] thanks, i'd asked balloons but he hadn't had time. i just hope i will be able to make the meeting (school and sleeping make it hard) [10:10] Noskcaj, :) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [10:18] thanks for adding yourself to the whoweare smartboyhw === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [11:12] raring-desktop-i386-smoke-lvm failed, but it's in failure command due to not able to resolve the internet domains correctly to fetch the new packages. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === _salem is now known as salem_ === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:00] If any people haven't added themselves to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre please do:) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:54] cjwatson: ssh to cdimage gets through the firewall now for me, but now I'm getting nothing returned by the command I'm telling it to run. If I try to ssh without a command to run on the other end, I get back "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0" Is that something IS needs to fix still? or is there something I need to do to work around that [14:56] plars: what command were you trying to run? [14:57] not seeing any logs on my end [14:57] though I can't read auth.log [14:57] cjwatson: at first I was just trying to have it run "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help", but I even tried something like "uname -a" to see if it was just the command [14:58] well, that certainly ought to have worked [14:58] let me ask IS to help investigate [14:59] I mean, the former should have given you something [15:08] balloons, ping [15:08] smartboyhw, pong [15:09] balloons, should we go and get some events again for testing before Final release? [15:09] smartboyhw, we could consider doing something [15:09] what were you thinking? [15:09] balloons, good question, hadn't thought about that:P [15:10] I thought i had till today to put noskcaj's testimonial in.. but I see he was accepted ;-) [15:11] he got one from me anyway :-) [15:11] err wait [15:11] no I'm good :-) sweetness [15:11] balloons, accepted what!? [15:11] * balloons is confused :-) [15:11] he gets voted on tonight [15:12] which is err sometime tomorrow for you [15:12] see how this is confusing? [15:12] balloons, srsly? [15:12] * smartboyhw needs to check on the date. [15:12] balloons, no [15:12] wait.. I'm confused again [15:12] yea, he has 3 weeks to wait [15:12] The next meeting should be the first Thursday of May :P [15:12] he missed april [15:12] lololol [15:12] lolololololol [15:13] anyways, yes, thoughts? [15:14] balloons, Google+ Hangouts again?:P [15:14] Or just simple IRC support? [15:14] both are fun [15:15] balloons, and both of them are good. [15:16] balloons, possibly best to go ask in ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com what to do:) [15:16] sure, that's an idea [15:17] but you'll need to pitch a few different things for best results [15:17] balloons, speaking of this, do you remember an very old action item that traces it's roots back to the time when we have IRC meetings? [15:17] Update qa.ubuntu.com :P [15:17] balloons, we can pitch:P [15:18] plars: I've added some debugging at my end. Could you try again with "/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current --help"? [15:18] balloons, you updated the "getting involved" page [15:18] cjwatson: same result, I get no output from it [15:18] But in the main page you didn't update the box "Join Ubuntu QA:" [15:18] I wasn't expecting any change at your end [15:19] But it's given me a log to prove that it's getting through to my code [15:19] It still has meetings and the old mailling list (ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com) [15:20] cjwatson: gotcha [15:25] plars: try again (https://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu-cdimage/revision/1237) [15:27] cjwatson: that works now, thanks! [15:30] plars: I'd suggest trying a real (if no-op) operation too [15:31] plars: e.g. /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bin/mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 20130411 [15:31] (or '-i daily-live' instead of '-t desktop' if that's the form you'll be preferring) [15:31] cjwatson: I was trying to see if I could work out the right set of options [15:33] mark-current: error: unrecognised project 'ubuntu' [15:33] cjwatson: ^ [15:33] smartboyhw, yes I know ;) [15:34] errr [15:37] balloons, :P [15:53] plars: working on it, fwiw, some complications [15:54] cjwatson: np [15:58] plars: try again [16:01] cjwatson: mark-current -p ubuntu -s raring -t desktop -a i386 20130411: success [16:01] :) [16:01] plars: the delay was me adding that output, upon deciding that Unix silent-on-success behaviour was unhelpful here [16:01] (especially as it was also silent-on-failure) [16:03] cjwatson: thanks for that, it's nice to have some feedback that it worked [16:04] I'd like to draw some attention to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1066591 [16:04] Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged] [16:04] check out the attached screenshot [16:05] hilariously bad experience for anyone who manages to get an xpm icon in their xfce application menu [16:06] jrr.. ohh.. no scaling on the icons eh? [16:59] gema, happy birthday! :) [18:06] oh cool the xpm scaling issue affects unity as well http://imgur.com/0gE4Vop [18:06] what package would that be? [18:06] (sidenode - it's too hard to find/file a bug like this) [18:09] s/node/note/ [18:34] jrr, that's crazy [18:34] but I don't see that happening to me [18:34] umm.. hmm [18:34] anything else besides nvidia causing the issue? [18:50] balloons: do you have any .desktop things pointing to .xpm icons? [18:50] I can give you mine if you'd like to test [18:50] jrr, just wondering if there was any that people could use to confirm [18:51] I'd be happy to confirm it as well [18:51] I filed this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1168081 [18:51] Launchpad bug 1168081 in unity (Ubuntu) "xpm icon not scaling" [Undecided,New] [18:51] hence my asking :-) [18:51] sure, just a sec [18:55] balloons: okay, attached to the above-linked bug [18:55] * balloons looks [18:55] I suspect you need only edit one of your existing .desktops and point it to the xpm [18:56] ok, and this is a regression.. it scaled in quantal, precise, etc? [18:57] I don't know when/if it worked correctly, but I have it occuring on updated 12.10 and 13.04 [18:59] balloons: repro? [19:01] * balloons wonders if xpm's ever scaled [19:03] jrr, not yet [19:05] jrr, hmm so trying in unity without luck yet [19:06] I think you might need to log out/in for it to take if you edit an existing .desktop [19:06] rofl [19:07] confirmed [19:07] =D [19:07] it's pretty jarring [19:07] it's even better on xfce https://launchpadlibrarian.net/136987534/xfce_big_icon_2.png [19:08] jrr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1066591 [19:08] Launchpad bug 1066591 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "regression: desktop icons no longer scaled down" [Low,Triaged] [19:09] there's something underlying this [19:10] in earlier googling I found references to gdk-pixbuf [19:10] from mutliple reports, this started in 12.10.. yes, it's underlying gtk issue [19:11] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=686514 [19:11] Gnome bug 686514 in general "gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale() fails to scale xpm images" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [19:11] looks like there is a fix.. you could link it and try and get a patch in [19:12] also https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9615 is relevant to you [19:12] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9615 in Libxfce4panel "When using an Image as an icon (.xpm), XFCE does not resize in the popup menu" [Normal,New] [19:12] probably should dupe your new bug, link to the old bugs and add those upstream links to them :- [19:12] make sense? [19:13] then if your really ambitious, try the upstream patch out.. [19:16] not that ambitious [19:16] maybe when I have some time this weekend [19:17] :-) no worries.. that was fun to track down [19:17] where'd you find the link to the gnome bug? [19:18] I browsed around on there trackers === chilicuil is now known as chilicuil_away [20:20] hello Noskcaj, Letozaf [20:21] Noskcaj, meet Devo-Kun . He's interested in xubuntu autopilot tests [20:21] hey balloons, i think i found some new autopilot guys ;) [20:21] Noskcaj, :-) [20:21] hello Devo-Kun [20:21] Hi [20:21] balloons, Noskcaj Hello! [20:21] Letozaf is our resident autopilot expert! [20:21] * balloons smiles [20:22] balloons, sorry to put you in charge of all this after i started it, i'm oing to be away till sunday [20:22] and Letozaf, same apology [20:22] * Letozaf smiles [20:22] Noskcaj, lol.. recruiting new minds never needs an apology [20:23] So Devo-Kun several ways to go from here. if you've never seen how autopilot works, feel free to branch the project and run some of them [20:23] or run some of the unity tests on your box already [20:24] OK [20:24] Is this the Wiki page you mentioned? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Autopilot [20:24] yep, [20:25] Great! [20:26] if something is confusing you can blame me, but then let me know.. I'd be happy to fix :-) [20:33] Devo-Kun, nice to meet you, if you need help just ping me :) [20:33] Thanks! [20:33] I will. [20:33] I'm going to dig in to the AutoPilot stuff a little later. [20:34] Is there a place where the AutoPilot tests that already exist for Xubuntu are stored? [20:34] And is there a place where "user stories" for potential new AutoPilot tests are listed? [20:37] Devo-Kun, at the moment, there are none targetted for xubuntu [20:37] Fair enough. [20:37] we use the trello board for potentials.. however, any existing manual testcase is game [20:37] That's probably the reason for the recruitment effort on the Xubuntu-dev mailing list ;) [20:37] many of our first tests were conversion so to speak from the manual tests [20:38] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/ [20:38] that has all of the manual testcases in it [20:39] so in general I would start by targetting the default applications for xubuntu [20:39] and you'll probably want to start with a simple one [20:40] gnumeric and abiword are probably a bit more complex for example [20:40] leafpad is probably simpler === 77CAAVMF2 is now known as TheDrums [20:51] Devo-Kun, if no-one has answered your question. xubuntu has nothing auto-pilot related so-far. the best thing to start with would be porting the gedit testcase to leafpad [20:51] Noskaj, that's good advice. I'll check that out. === chilicuil_away is now known as chilicuil === salem_ is now known as _salem