[00:17] <gamerchick02> hullo. anyone around?
[00:19] <snap-l> Hello there
[00:21] <gamerchick02> how's it going? i managed to watch part of Mr. Selfridge and then fall asleep so i didn't make it to the meetingo n Sunday. :(
[00:21] <gamerchick02> how's CHC going?
[00:21] <rick_h_> party party
[00:22] <gamerchick02> woot
[00:22] <gamerchick02> long day. i gott aget back there again, but i'm not sure if me and my mac would be welcome. :-P
[00:22] <Blazeix> gamerchick02: the macs are making a comeback
[00:23] <Blazeix> 4 thinkpads vs 3 macs
[00:23] <gamerchick02> i bought an 11" Air and it was probably the best purchase I've made, computer-wise. except for the parts for my desktop, of course.
[00:23] <gamerchick02> i've always wanted a thinkpad.
[00:23] <gamerchick02> i think they're super cool
[00:24] <gamerchick02> i'm jealous of rick_h_'s thinkpad (i think he has the 12" one with awesomeWM, yes?)
[00:25] <rick_h_> gamerchick02: yes
[00:25] <gamerchick02> cool. i saw it and was like, "wow, that's so cool"
[00:25] <gamerchick02> i was rocking the System76 at the time and it was heavy like whoah.
[00:26] <gamerchick02> reminds me of my work laptop. my CAD beast, hah. the new CAD machines are even more beastly
[01:09] <rick_h_> https://twitter.com/ireneros/status/322104096368779264 ftw
[01:29] <rick_h_> http://pyvideo.org/video/517/pyohio-2010--wrangling-the-bits--standardizing-ho
[01:29] <rick_h_> waldo323: ^^
[01:29] <waldo323> thanks
[02:23] <snap-l> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/if-you-make-pcs-and-youre-not-lenovo-you-might-be-in-trouble/
[02:53] <aprez> good evening good evening good evening
[02:53] <snap-l> jcastro: http://arcadeheroes.com/2013/04/09/next-from-stern-pinball-metallica-pinball/
[11:50] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:51] <rick_h_> morn
[15:19] <snap-l> https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/LujwY84RtnU <- I owe you a beer. :)
[15:20] <rick_h_> oh wow, been on G+ for a year?
[15:25] <snap-l> a-yep
[15:26] <rick_h_> heh, how did you find that post?
[15:26] <rick_h_> I never really seem to go back through old G+
[16:10] <greg-g> jcastro: http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/how-to-increase-donations-to-an-open-source-project/
[16:10] <greg-g> "Ask for a donation when the download is occurring not when a user is browsing the project site.
[16:10] <greg-g> "
[16:12] <jcastro> that's really cool
[16:12] <jcastro> I'll pass it along
[16:55] <snap-l> rick_h_: It was a Google search
[16:57] <snap-l> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/fIiOeCMHmrJ0UOL1DsWy/ <- This is why I <3 Ting.
[17:04] <greg-g> snap-l: is that the TOS change? yeah, good people
[17:04] <greg-g> also, spending <$50/mo for two smart phones == awesome
[17:04] <snap-l> Yeah
[17:04] <greg-g> thanks again :)
[17:05] <snap-l> Worst bill was $56 for three phones
[17:05] <snap-l> NP. Glad it's working out. :)
[17:05] <greg-g> you should be, otherwise I'd be berating you constantly
[17:05] <snap-l> Hah. :)
[17:05] <snap-l> I'd expect that from jcastro, even if it was working. :)
[17:05] <greg-g> but really, I was already on sprint, so nothing changed service coverage-wise for me
[17:06] <greg-g> true
[17:06] <jcastro> heh
[17:06] <greg-g> he probably drove a Bereta in HS but changed the decals to read berates
[17:06] <jcastro> I switched from tmo->simplemobile for similar savings
[17:07] <jcastro> also, I don't berate everyone
[17:07] <jcastro> just people who don't agree with me
[17:07] <snap-l> Neat thing is I already sent back a phone that wasn't working, and they replaced it
[17:08] <snap-l> jcastro: Which is.... um... planet Earth. ;)
[17:08] <jcastro> unless you disagree with me on music, technology, cars, shaving, and basically everything else, we're good!
[17:43] <jrwren> snap-l: I'm totally gonna put that in my memo field. TY for idea.
[18:00] <jrwren> rick_h_: do you have preference for implicit or explicit tuples?
[18:00] <jrwren> e.g.
[18:00] <jrwren> a, b = f()
[18:00] <jrwren> or
[18:00] <jrwren> (a, b) = f()
[18:01] <jrwren> and same for statement parameter, mostly return
[18:01] <jrwren> return a, b   -= or =-   return (a, b)
[18:01] <rick_h_> jrwren: so I hate when implicit tuple ofr return values
[18:01] <rick_h_> but for splitting a,b = f() I like it
[18:07] <jrwren> i think i'm going to try to prefer explicit always, but I really don't know why.
[18:07] <rick_h_> yea, I don't think you'll see that much
[18:08] <jrwren> nope.
[18:08] <jrwren> a coworker pointed out in review that i was not consistent.
[18:08] <jrwren> in one function i had return a, b and in antoehr I had return (c, d)
[18:08] <rick_h_> yea, so for return I don't like it in particular because it's too easy to edit/change something and have that trailing comma or such
[18:09] <jrwren> i'm not sure what you mean?
[18:09] <rick_h_> return one, two
[18:09] <rick_h_> return one, two, three
[18:09] <rick_h_> ret = {one: xx, two: xxx: three
[18:09] <rick_h_> return ret,
[18:10] <rick_h_> doh, tuple came back
[18:10] <jrwren> ah.
[18:10] <rick_h_> just that when you have the implicit I seem to eventually get bit by refactoring that ends up with a tuple error which shows up as an unpacking error in the code
[18:10] <rick_h_> and it doesn't show until it's used, usually later in the code
[18:11] <rick_h_> so I guss I have two rules. if you're doing some work in a method first, last = user.getFullname() is preferred
[18:11] <rick_h_> if you're returning: return (first, last)
[18:11] <rick_h_> is preferred
[18:12] <rick_h_> imo and all that
[18:18] <jrwren> i'll take it!
[18:18] <jrwren> thanks.
[18:19] <snap-l> jrwren: What are you putting in your memo field?
[18:23] <snap-l> Finally, an Open Source Project that doesn't suck: http://opensourcevacuumcleaner.com/
[18:27] <greg-g> :)
[18:28] <rick_h_> if it doesn't suck...then wouldn't that means it sucks?
[18:29] <jrwren> snap-l: something about bad us congress.
[18:34] <greg-g> snap-l: "for a do nothing congress etc"
[18:34] <snap-l> Ah. :)
[18:34] <snap-l> Right. :)
[18:35] <snap-l> I need at least a 2-3 hour window to know where someone is referencing. ;)
[18:57] <rick_h_> man, I checked out a review of that system76 high end desktop. The silence of the water cool is sweeeeet
[19:30] <rick_h_> I need a Sentry to github issues button
[19:42] <greg-g> this..... isn't good: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/925/
[19:44] <rick_h_> hmm, that seems to be a sign of 'boom'
[19:44] <_stink_> heh, broken dmesg?
[19:44] <_stink_> er
[19:45] <greg-g> apparently the "double free" thing is a weird bug that happens sometimes, according to paultag
[19:45] <greg-g> not with dmesg only
[20:21] <jhansonxi> greg-g, with that kind of error in something as simple as dmesg I would suspect failing hardware (bad RAM, overheating CPU)
[20:21] <greg-g> :(
[20:21] <greg-g> yeah
[20:25] <greg-g> ugh, yeah, shutdown -h now isn't completing
[20:26] <jhansonxi> greg-g, Its gone rogue!  RUN!
[20:28] <greg-g> poor little eeepc
[20:29] <jhansonxi> The fan failed in my friend's EeePC.  Was a pain to replace but it is possible.
[20:50] <aprez> Hello hello hello :D
[20:50] <rick_h_> party
[21:59] <snap-l> Evening.
[22:15] <rick_h_> evening
[22:15] <greg-g> afternoon
[22:16] <rick_h_> psh, don't be playing that. Everyone knows our evening with 30deg and 2" of rain is so awesome
[22:16] <rick_h_> and afternoons in places with sun is completely overrated
[23:39] <rick_h_> phew, is it friday yet?