[00:17] hullo. anyone around? [00:19] Hello there [00:21] how's it going? i managed to watch part of Mr. Selfridge and then fall asleep so i didn't make it to the meetingo n Sunday. :( [00:21] how's CHC going? [00:21] party party [00:22] woot [00:22] long day. i gott aget back there again, but i'm not sure if me and my mac would be welcome. :-P [00:22] gamerchick02: the macs are making a comeback [00:23] 4 thinkpads vs 3 macs [00:23] i bought an 11" Air and it was probably the best purchase I've made, computer-wise. except for the parts for my desktop, of course. [00:23] i've always wanted a thinkpad. [00:23] i think they're super cool [00:24] i'm jealous of rick_h_'s thinkpad (i think he has the 12" one with awesomeWM, yes?) [00:25] gamerchick02: yes [00:25] cool. i saw it and was like, "wow, that's so cool" [00:25] i was rocking the System76 at the time and it was heavy like whoah. [00:26] reminds me of my work laptop. my CAD beast, hah. the new CAD machines are even more beastly [01:09] https://twitter.com/ireneros/status/322104096368779264 ftw [01:29] http://pyvideo.org/video/517/pyohio-2010--wrangling-the-bits--standardizing-ho [01:29] waldo323: ^^ [01:29] thanks [02:23] http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/if-you-make-pcs-and-youre-not-lenovo-you-might-be-in-trouble/ [02:53] good evening good evening good evening [02:53] jcastro: http://arcadeheroes.com/2013/04/09/next-from-stern-pinball-metallica-pinball/ [11:50] Good morning [11:51] morn [15:19] https://plus.google.com/116120911388966791792/posts/LujwY84RtnU <- I owe you a beer. :) [15:20] oh wow, been on G+ for a year? [15:25] a-yep [15:26] heh, how did you find that post? [15:26] I never really seem to go back through old G+ [16:10] jcastro: http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2013/04/09/how-to-increase-donations-to-an-open-source-project/ [16:10] "Ask for a donation when the download is occurring not when a user is browsing the project site. [16:10] " [16:12] that's really cool [16:12] I'll pass it along [16:55] rick_h_: It was a Google search [16:57] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/fIiOeCMHmrJ0UOL1DsWy/ <- This is why I <3 Ting. [17:04] snap-l: is that the TOS change? yeah, good people [17:04] also, spending <$50/mo for two smart phones == awesome [17:04] Yeah [17:04] thanks again :) [17:05] Worst bill was $56 for three phones [17:05] NP. Glad it's working out. :) [17:05] you should be, otherwise I'd be berating you constantly [17:05] Hah. :) [17:05] I'd expect that from jcastro, even if it was working. :) [17:05] but really, I was already on sprint, so nothing changed service coverage-wise for me [17:06] true [17:06] heh [17:06] he probably drove a Bereta in HS but changed the decals to read berates [17:06] I switched from tmo->simplemobile for similar savings [17:07] also, I don't berate everyone [17:07] just people who don't agree with me [17:07] Neat thing is I already sent back a phone that wasn't working, and they replaced it [17:08] jcastro: Which is.... um... planet Earth. ;) [17:08] unless you disagree with me on music, technology, cars, shaving, and basically everything else, we're good! [17:43] snap-l: I'm totally gonna put that in my memo field. TY for idea. === UnFixed_ is now known as UnFixed [18:00] rick_h_: do you have preference for implicit or explicit tuples? [18:00] e.g. [18:00] a, b = f() [18:00] or [18:00] (a, b) = f() [18:01] and same for statement parameter, mostly return [18:01] return a, b -= or =- return (a, b) [18:01] jrwren: so I hate when implicit tuple ofr return values [18:01] but for splitting a,b = f() I like it [18:07] i think i'm going to try to prefer explicit always, but I really don't know why. [18:07] yea, I don't think you'll see that much [18:08] nope. [18:08] a coworker pointed out in review that i was not consistent. [18:08] in one function i had return a, b and in antoehr I had return (c, d) [18:08] yea, so for return I don't like it in particular because it's too easy to edit/change something and have that trailing comma or such [18:09] i'm not sure what you mean? [18:09] return one, two [18:09] return one, two, three [18:09] ret = {one: xx, two: xxx: three [18:09] return ret, [18:10] doh, tuple came back [18:10] ah. [18:10] just that when you have the implicit I seem to eventually get bit by refactoring that ends up with a tuple error which shows up as an unpacking error in the code [18:10] and it doesn't show until it's used, usually later in the code [18:11] so I guss I have two rules. if you're doing some work in a method first, last = user.getFullname() is preferred [18:11] if you're returning: return (first, last) [18:11] is preferred [18:12] imo and all that [18:18] i'll take it! [18:18] thanks. [18:19] jrwren: What are you putting in your memo field? [18:23] Finally, an Open Source Project that doesn't suck: http://opensourcevacuumcleaner.com/ [18:27] :) [18:28] if it doesn't suck...then wouldn't that means it sucks? [18:29] snap-l: something about bad us congress. [18:34] snap-l: "for a do nothing congress etc" [18:34] Ah. :) [18:34] Right. :) [18:35] I need at least a 2-3 hour window to know where someone is referencing. ;) [18:57] man, I checked out a review of that system76 high end desktop. The silence of the water cool is sweeeeet [19:30] I need a Sentry to github issues button [19:42] this..... isn't good: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/925/ [19:44] hmm, that seems to be a sign of 'boom' [19:44] <_stink_> heh, broken dmesg? [19:44] <_stink_> er [19:45] apparently the "double free" thing is a weird bug that happens sometimes, according to paultag [19:45] not with dmesg only [20:21] greg-g, with that kind of error in something as simple as dmesg I would suspect failing hardware (bad RAM, overheating CPU) [20:21] :( [20:21] yeah [20:25] ugh, yeah, shutdown -h now isn't completing [20:26] greg-g, Its gone rogue! RUN! [20:28] poor little eeepc [20:29] The fan failed in my friend's EeePC. Was a pain to replace but it is possible. [20:50] Hello hello hello :D [20:50] party [21:59] Evening. [22:15] evening [22:15] afternoon [22:16] psh, don't be playing that. Everyone knows our evening with 30deg and 2" of rain is so awesome [22:16] and afternoons in places with sun is completely overrated [23:39] phew, is it friday yet?