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valorie!colord-kde05:31
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ubottucolord-kde (source: colord-kde): Color management for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0-0ubuntu1.1 (quantal), package size 77 kB, installed size 317 kB05:32
soeegood morning05:53
lordievaderGood morning06:21
shadeslayermorning lordievader06:24
lordievaderHey shadeslayer, how are you doing?06:24
shadeslayerjust started the day06:24
lordievaderSame here :)06:25
shadeslayerlooking at the spec sheet for the Exynos 5 :P06:25
Mamarokapachelogger: where has the konversation 1.5RC1 package gone? It doesn't show in experimental anymore, and since the last update I appear to have the 1.4 master package...08:05
Mamaroknvm, I apparently have 1.5 installed, but a (sayversion still produces this:08:07
MamarokKonversation: 1.4-master #4210, Qt 4.8.4, KDE SC 4.10.2, KDE DP 4.8.90 (4.8.90)08:07
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw08:42
shadeslayerQuintasan: the nexus 10 has 16 MB's for boot.img08:42
shadeslayeryou heard that right08:42
shadeslayer16 Megabytes \o/08:42
shadeslayerunlike the TF101 which had only 4-508:43
Mamarokapachelogger: nvm, apparently I had some outdated git version lying around, my bd :(08:44
apacheloggeryay, daily isolinux fixed http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopG27082.png http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopP27082.png10:03
apacheloggerohm10:08
apacheloggerzenity is still on it10:08
apachelogger:@10:08
seaLneapachelogger: i really like the new bootsplash stuff10:10
apachelogger\o/10:12
smartboyhwapachelogger, \o/10:20
* apachelogger sighs11:03
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopu27082.png11:04
apacheloggeris there any app that actually has 100% working l10n?11:04
smartboyhwapachelogger, LOL11:04
smartboyhwShort answer: No.11:04
jussibah11:05
jussiwhat is this unity web apps thing that keeps popping up...11:05
apachelogger<message xml:lang="de">Zum Installieren oder Entfernen von Software müssen Sie sich authentifizieren.</message>11:05
apachelogger..........11:05
apachelogger...................................................11:05
apachelogger...................................................................................................11:06
apachelogger:@11:06
jussi(and trying to install it gives me a html file download)11:06
jussievil11:06
ovidiu-florinhello world :D11:06
jussihi ovidiu-florin11:06
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopR27082.png11:07
* apachelogger throws keyboard out the window11:08
smartboyhwapachelogger, :O11:08
smartboyhwHello jussi 11:08
lordievaderGood afternoon11:08
* jussi give apachelogger a hug11:09
smartboyhwlordievader, you came at a bad time:P11:09
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopK27082.png11:09
lordievadersmartboyhw: How so?11:09
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopR27082_1.png when I drag accessibility in the free space11:11
smartboyhwlordievader, apachelogger is angry about non-fully translated -l10ns and jussi is getting angry with Unity webapps:P11:11
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: where are the translations supposed to come from btw?11:11
apacheloggersmartboyhw: no11:11
apacheloggerTHEY ARE TRANSLATED11:11
smartboyhwapachelogger, l10n.kde.org....11:12
smartboyhwapachelogger, non-FULLY translated:P11:12
apacheloggerTHEY ARE TRANSLATED11:12
smartboyhwYou clearly didn't read carefully..11:12
smartboyhwapachelogger, eh then11:12
lordievadersmartboyhw: The color-kde thing? Or is there more?11:12
smartboyhwapachelogger, you mean they aren't working right:P11:12
apacheloggeryes they aren't11:13
apacheloggerthey are fing broken11:13
smartboyhwapachelogger, boo on thatP11:13
apacheloggerand no one gives a shit11:13
apacheloggerI should flame blog post about this crap and get kicked off all planets11:13
smartboyhwapachelogger, add oil:P11:14
smartboyhwadd oil = go on continuously until done (in Cantonese)11:14
apachelogger$EXTRACTRC --context="Category" --tag-group=none --tag=Name libmuon/categories.xml >> categoriesxml.cpp11:22
apacheloggermuon 2.0 l10n is broken11:23
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: ^11:23
apacheloggerwe should just remove l10n support11:23
apacheloggerit is embarassing that's what it is11:23
JontheEchidnaoh crap, that file moved11:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module11:25
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: 140 strings in libmuonapt are not extracted11:32
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopJ27082.png11:57
apacheloggersudo apps aint working because LANG is not set12:00
Riddellhola12:05
shadeslayerhey Riddell12:05
* shadeslayer is heading out for the evening, cya on Monday :)12:06
shadeslayeror maybe in the evening tomorrow12:06
Riddellciao shadeslayer 12:07
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopa27082.png12:11
apacheloggernot sure why that is though12:11
apacheloggermay be libmuonapt I guess12:11
apacheloggerhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=im-config.mo&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any12:17
* apachelogger smiles12:17
smartboyhwHey Riddell 12:22
Riddellhi smartboyhw 12:23
smartboyhwRiddell, where have you been the past few days?12:30
* smartboyhw misses Riddell 12:30
Riddellaww thanks smartboyhw 12:30
Riddellsorry got to run away now too, back in an hour or two12:30
smartboyhwRiddell, :)12:30
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/board/l10n/5167f79c8ddd798f6c002cf312:38
apacheloggerit is all so very broken12:38
smartboyhwapachelogger, that's a lot.12:38
apacheloggersmartboyhw: that does not even include *all* of our stuff12:51
apacheloggerwhich I still cannot test as they are in no languagepack12:51
apacheloggerdpm: ^ :S12:51
smartboyhw:S12:52
BluesKajHey all12:56
dpmhi apachelogger, for the language packs themselves, it's best to ask on #ubuntu-desktop - pitti used to take care of maintaining the langpacks, but now he's moved on to other things. He's still the one who knows how to get them in, so you might want to ask him13:21
apacheloggerok thanks13:25
smartboyhwOne interesting thing: KDE was accepted into GSoC again, but Canonical didn't make it:P13:46
* genii-around reads http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas13:48
BluesKajdo you mean unity/gnome13:48
smartboyhwBluesKaj, not sure for GNOME13:49
smartboyhwBut Ubuntu was rejected13:49
genii-aroundWhy do they never have "port firefox to Qt" ....13:49
BluesKajcanonical is doing an indie thing with their unity desktop , trying to make an enterprise desktop and moving away from open sources.13:51
BluesKajerr source13:51
apacheloggergenii-around: too much work13:51
apacheloggeralso politics13:51
apacheloggerin fact politics may be even worse than the coding13:51
genii-around:-/13:51
smartboyhwHeh, let me learn more coding to join GSoC 4 years later.13:53
smartboyhwYes. You must be 18 years of age or older on or before May 27, 2013 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2013.13:53
smartboyhwLOL13:53
genii-aroundWeird, I wonder why the age restriction13:54
BluesKajprobly so one travel on their own without parental permission and discretion and responsibility 13:57
BluesKajliabilities 13:57
genii-aroundHm.13:57
smartboyhwBluesKaj, :O13:57
* smartboyhw raises objections13:57
BluesKajdepends on the country's laws13:57
smartboyhwBluesKaj, 16 for HK at least I think13:58
* genii-around ponders jcastro's age14:00
smartboyhwgenii-around, why?:P14:00
genii-aroundsmartboyhw: Because every time I see him on video in #ubuntu-classroom or so, he looks like 1514:01
smartboyhwgenii-around, :O14:01
smartboyhwgenii-around, if he is 15 I will murder him (LOL kidding)14:01
davmor2hey Riddell I might have some free time this if I'm really, really lucky, would you like me to have a play at installing Kubuntu along side windows 8/ubuntu in a secure boot environment or do you have that sorted now?14:14
=== smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw
Riddelldavmor2: oh that would be really cool16:11
Riddelldavmor2: it works on this computer but then so does quantal so it doesn't tell me much (but precise doesn't giving uefi error, go figure)16:11
davmor2Riddell: There's no promises, but I'll see what I can do, I'll ping dev an email with what worked and didn't16:12
lordievaderGood evening17:32
Riddellhi lordievader 17:55
lordievaderHey Riddell, how are you doing?17:57
=== highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage
soee:<18:39
soeemy nvidia drivers get uninstalled somehow oO18:39
Riddelllordievader: tres bien merci18:47
soeeagateau, here?19:52
yofelRiddell: just had a friend try kubuntu, who reminded me of bug 96404620:37
ubottubug 964046 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Blank, unselectable wallpaper listed in Desktop Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96404620:37
yofelcould we make /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png a hidden file maybe?20:37
Riddellhmm?20:37
yofelthat looks... not so nice if you're trying to showcase the live disk and have a broken wallpaper in there20:39
Riddellyofel: it doesn't link symlinks?20:40
apacheloggerlook at me I am darth vader20:40
apacheloggerRiddell: even if it did like symlinks... it would show the default twice20:41
apacheloggerso not a good situation eitherway20:41
Riddellmaybe that symlink should move to somewhere else20:41
apacheloggerbreaks a looooooooooot of stuff I suppose20:42
apacheloggerthen again perhaps we are not using it anymore ^^20:42
Riddellwell making it a hidden file would also mean changing its name no?20:42
apacheloggerlightdm may be the only thing using it20:42
apacheloggerRiddell: yes, my point is it should not be done for raring ;)20:43
apacheloggeryofel: maybe throw it on the 13.10 board20:43
apacheloggerand note that perhaps we can/should remove it entirely20:43
yofelyeah, I'll do that20:44
apacheloggeralso I forgot to mention tomorrows daily should be suitably sized on all architectures again as zenity should be gone20:45
Riddellapachelogger: akonadi-facebook needs repackaged to get it up to date if it's going to have l10n added20:45
apacheloggerso yay for less gnome stuff :D20:45
RiddellI mostly completed that before getting distracted20:45
apacheloggerRiddell: bummer, do we want that?20:45
apacheloggerthis l10n mess all around is seriously freaking me out20:46
Riddellapachelogger: what was bringing in zenity?20:46
apacheloggerRiddell: im-config20:46
apacheloggerand zenity brought in all and every gtk lib20:46
Riddellug20:46
Riddellwell caught20:46
apacheloggerso I patched in kdialog support20:46
apacheloggerand then I noticed that l10n is broken there as well20:47
Riddellsuper20:47
Riddellless super20:47
apacheloggerthough that probably has to do with not being exported in a langpack20:47
apacheloggergotta poke around a bit tomorrow to get the langpacks updated and uploaded20:48
apacheloggerI also have no idea whether our l10n works :S20:48
apacheloggerRiddell: fwiw, https://trello.com/board/l10n/5167f79c8ddd798f6c002cf3 all them things have l10n defects20:48
Riddellapachelogger: yeah I saw20:48
Riddellapachelogger: all fixable, but needs some effort20:49
apacheloggermuon only via sru, colord only via 0.3, homerun also only via sru20:50
apacheloggerquite some others need investigation20:50
* apachelogger thinks we should introduce l10n QA points in the release schedule20:50
Riddellwhy sru?20:50
apacheloggeror add l10n QA to iso QA20:50
RiddellI did do that for a while20:50
apacheloggerRiddell: muon is missing entire strings form the templates, so they are not translated at all, homerun's 0.2 l10n is mostly incomplete20:51
apacheloggerhomerun 0.2's completeness {"bs"=>28.0, "cs"=>54.666666666666664, "da"=>82.66666666666667, "de"=>69.33333333333333, "el"=>70.66666666666667, "es"=>70.66666666666667, "et"=>70.66666666666667, "fi"=>100.0, "fr"=>22.666666666666668, "ga"=>34.666666666666664, "gl"=>82.66666666666667, "hu"=>46.666666666666664, "lt"=>49.333333333333336, "nl"=>100.0, "pa"=>54.666666666666664, "pl"=>61.333333333333336, "pt"=>100.0, "pt_BR"=>100.0, "ro"=>69.20:51
apachelogger33333333333333, "sk"=>89.33333333333333, "sv"=>89.33333333333333, "uk"=>100.0, "zh_CN"=>82.66666666666667}20:51
apacheloggeroh and making matters worse for homerun ... playground apps cannot use stable l10n for some reason,so agateau would have to mark the 0.2 branch as trunk (only) translation target20:54
apacheloggerit's really just very terrible :'(20:54
Riddellis there an argument for using launchpad?20:55
apacheloggerthat's as big a hassle IMO20:55
Riddellnot much, more a question of whether it would get enough translations to make it worth it I'd think20:58
apacheloggerno metrics on that unfortunately20:58
apacheloggeralso hard to get seeing as there are no langpacks with our software :@20:58
apacheloggerwould have to query lunchpad for po files directly20:59
RiddellI wonder if Darkwing will do docs this cycle21:02
apacheloggeroh on that note21:02
apacheloggerRiddell: do you have push access to kubuntu-docs?21:03
apacheloggerif so, please apply what we have in the archive (I fixed the icon of the main item)21:03
Riddellapachelogger: ok21:03
Riddellapachelogger: voila21:11
Riddellhum, amarok is crashing a bit more often than I'd like21:40
valoriewhich version are you running, Riddell?21:52
Riddellvalorie: 2:2.7.0-0ubuntu222:18
valoriei meant the amarok version22:19
valorieoops22:19
Riddellyes22:19
Riddellso did I :)22:19
valoriehmm, perhaps I should build amarok on my test lappies too22:19
valorieand test that as well22:19
valorieno time like the present.....22:20

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