[05:31] <valorie> !colord-kde
[05:32] <valorie> !info colord-kde
[05:53] <soee> good morning
[06:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:24] <shadeslayer> morning lordievader
[06:24] <lordievader> Hey shadeslayer, how are you doing?
[06:24] <shadeslayer> just started the day
[06:25] <lordievader> Same here :)
[06:25] <shadeslayer> looking at the spec sheet for the Exynos 5 :P
[08:05] <Mamarok> apachelogger: where has the konversation 1.5RC1 package gone? It doesn't show in experimental anymore, and since the last update I appear to have the 1.4 master package...
[08:07] <Mamarok> nvm, I apparently have 1.5 installed, but a (sayversion still produces this:
[08:07] <Mamarok> Konversation: 1.4-master #4210, Qt 4.8.4, KDE SC 4.10.2, KDE DP 4.8.90 (4.8.90)
[08:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: btw
[08:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the nexus 10 has 16 MB's for boot.img
[08:42] <shadeslayer> you heard that right
[08:42] <shadeslayer> 16 Megabytes \o/
[08:43] <shadeslayer> unlike the TF101 which had only 4-5
[08:44] <Mamarok> apachelogger: nvm, apparently I had some outdated git version lying around, my bd :(
[10:03] <apachelogger> yay, daily isolinux fixed http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopG27082.png http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopP27082.png
[10:08] <apachelogger> ohm
[10:08] <apachelogger> zenity is still on it
[10:08] <apachelogger> :@
[10:10] <seaLne> apachelogger: i really like the new bootsplash stuff
[10:12] <apachelogger> \o/
[10:20] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, \o/
[11:03]  * apachelogger sighs
[11:04] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopu27082.png
[11:04] <apachelogger> is there any app that actually has 100% working l10n?
[11:04] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, LOL
[11:04] <smartboyhw> Short answer: No.
[11:05] <jussi> bah
[11:05] <jussi> what is this unity web apps thing that keeps popping up...
[11:05] <apachelogger> <message xml:lang="de">Zum Installieren oder Entfernen von Software müssen Sie sich authentifizieren.</message>
[11:05] <apachelogger> ..........
[11:05] <apachelogger> ...................................................
[11:06] <apachelogger> ...................................................................................................
[11:06] <apachelogger> :@
[11:06] <jussi> (and trying to install it gives me a html file download)
[11:06] <jussi> evil
[11:06] <ovidiu-florin> hello world :D
[11:06] <jussi> hi ovidiu-florin
[11:07] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopR27082.png
[11:08]  * apachelogger throws keyboard out the window
[11:08] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, :O
[11:08] <smartboyhw> Hello jussi 
[11:08] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[11:09]  * jussi give apachelogger a hug
[11:09] <smartboyhw> lordievader, you came at a bad time:P
[11:09] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopK27082.png
[11:09] <lordievader> smartboyhw: How so?
[11:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopR27082_1.png when I drag accessibility in the free space
[11:11] <smartboyhw> lordievader, apachelogger is angry about non-fully translated -l10ns and jussi is getting angry with Unity webapps:P
[11:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: where are the translations supposed to come from btw?
[11:11] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: no
[11:11] <apachelogger> THEY ARE TRANSLATED
[11:12] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, l10n.kde.org....
[11:12] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, non-FULLY translated:P
[11:12] <apachelogger> THEY ARE TRANSLATED
[11:12] <smartboyhw> You clearly didn't read carefully..
[11:12] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, eh then
[11:12] <lordievader> smartboyhw: The color-kde thing? Or is there more?
[11:12] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, you mean they aren't working right:P
[11:13] <apachelogger> yes they aren't
[11:13] <apachelogger> they are fing broken
[11:13] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, boo on thatP
[11:13] <apachelogger> and no one gives a shit
[11:13] <apachelogger> I should flame blog post about this crap and get kicked off all planets
[11:14] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, add oil:P
[11:14] <smartboyhw> add oil = go on continuously until done (in Cantonese)
[11:22] <apachelogger> $EXTRACTRC --context="Category" --tag-group=none --tag=Name libmuon/categories.xml >> categoriesxml.cpp
[11:23] <apachelogger> muon 2.0 l10n is broken
[11:23] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ^
[11:23] <apachelogger> we should just remove l10n support
[11:23] <apachelogger> it is embarassing that's what it is
[11:24] <JontheEchidna> oh crap, that file moved
[11:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module
[11:32] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: 140 strings in libmuonapt are not extracted
[11:57] <apachelogger> http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopJ27082.png
[12:00] <apachelogger> sudo apps aint working because LANG is not set
[12:05] <Riddell> hola
[12:05] <shadeslayer> hey Riddell
[12:06]  * shadeslayer is heading out for the evening, cya on Monday :)
[12:06] <shadeslayer> or maybe in the evening tomorrow
[12:07] <Riddell> ciao shadeslayer 
[12:11] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/12/plasma-desktopa27082.png
[12:11] <apachelogger> not sure why that is though
[12:11] <apachelogger> may be libmuonapt I guess
[12:17] <apachelogger> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=im-config.mo&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[12:17]  * apachelogger smiles
[12:22] <smartboyhw> Hey Riddell 
[12:23] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw 
[12:30] <smartboyhw> Riddell, where have you been the past few days?
[12:30]  * smartboyhw misses Riddell 
[12:30] <Riddell> aww thanks smartboyhw 
[12:30] <Riddell> sorry got to run away now too, back in an hour or two
[12:30] <smartboyhw> Riddell, :)
[12:38] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/board/l10n/5167f79c8ddd798f6c002cf3
[12:38] <apachelogger> it is all so very broken
[12:38] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, that's a lot.
[12:51] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: that does not even include *all* of our stuff
[12:51] <apachelogger> which I still cannot test as they are in no languagepack
[12:51] <apachelogger> dpm: ^ :S
[12:52] <smartboyhw> :S
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:21] <dpm> hi apachelogger, for the language packs themselves, it's best to ask on #ubuntu-desktop - pitti used to take care of maintaining the langpacks, but now he's moved on to other things. He's still the one who knows how to get them in, so you might want to ask him
[13:25] <apachelogger> ok thanks
[13:46] <smartboyhw> One interesting thing: KDE was accepted into GSoC again, but Canonical didn't make it:P
[13:48]  * genii-around reads http://community.kde.org/GSoC/2013/Ideas
[13:48] <BluesKaj> do you mean unity/gnome
[13:49] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, not sure for GNOME
[13:49] <smartboyhw> But Ubuntu was rejected
[13:49] <genii-around> Why do they never have "port firefox to Qt" ....
[13:51] <BluesKaj> canonical is doing an indie thing with their unity desktop , trying to make an enterprise desktop and moving away from open sources.
[13:51] <BluesKaj> err source
[13:51] <apachelogger> genii-around: too much work
[13:51] <apachelogger> also politics
[13:51] <apachelogger> in fact politics may be even worse than the coding
[13:51] <genii-around> :-/
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Heh, let me learn more coding to join GSoC 4 years later.
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Yes. You must be 18 years of age or older on or before May 27, 2013 to be eligible to participate in Google Summer of Code in 2013.
[13:53] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:54] <genii-around> Weird, I wonder why the age restriction
[13:57] <BluesKaj> probly so one travel on their own without parental permission and discretion and responsibility 
[13:57] <BluesKaj> liabilities 
[13:57] <genii-around> Hm.
[13:57] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, :O
[13:57]  * smartboyhw raises objections
[13:57] <BluesKaj> depends on the country's laws
[13:58] <smartboyhw> BluesKaj, 16 for HK at least I think
[14:00]  * genii-around ponders jcastro's age
[14:00] <smartboyhw> genii-around, why?:P
[14:01] <genii-around> smartboyhw: Because every time I see him on video in #ubuntu-classroom or so, he looks like 15
[14:01] <smartboyhw> genii-around, :O
[14:01] <smartboyhw> genii-around, if he is 15 I will murder him (LOL kidding)
[14:14] <davmor2> hey Riddell I might have some free time this if I'm really, really lucky, would you like me to have a play at installing Kubuntu along side windows 8/ubuntu in a secure boot environment or do you have that sorted now?
[16:11] <Riddell> davmor2: oh that would be really cool
[16:11] <Riddell> davmor2: it works on this computer but then so does quantal so it doesn't tell me much (but precise doesn't giving uefi error, go figure)
[16:12] <davmor2> Riddell: There's no promises, but I'll see what I can do, I'll ping dev an email with what worked and didn't
[17:32] <lordievader> Good evening
[17:55] <Riddell> hi lordievader 
[17:57] <lordievader> Hey Riddell, how are you doing?
[18:39] <soee> :<
[18:39] <soee> my nvidia drivers get uninstalled somehow oO
[18:47] <Riddell> lordievader: tres bien merci
[19:52] <soee> agateau, here?
[20:37] <yofel> Riddell: just had a friend try kubuntu, who reminded me of bug 964046
[20:37] <yofel> could we make /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png a hidden file maybe?
[20:37] <Riddell> hmm?
[20:39] <yofel> that looks... not so nice if you're trying to showcase the live disk and have a broken wallpaper in there
[20:40] <Riddell> yofel: it doesn't link symlinks?
[20:40] <apachelogger> look at me I am darth vader
[20:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: even if it did like symlinks... it would show the default twice
[20:41] <apachelogger> so not a good situation eitherway
[20:41] <Riddell> maybe that symlink should move to somewhere else
[20:42] <apachelogger> breaks a looooooooooot of stuff I suppose
[20:42] <apachelogger> then again perhaps we are not using it anymore ^^
[20:42] <Riddell> well making it a hidden file would also mean changing its name no?
[20:42] <apachelogger> lightdm may be the only thing using it
[20:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, my point is it should not be done for raring ;)
[20:43] <apachelogger> yofel: maybe throw it on the 13.10 board
[20:43] <apachelogger> and note that perhaps we can/should remove it entirely
[20:44] <yofel> yeah, I'll do that
[20:45] <apachelogger> also I forgot to mention tomorrows daily should be suitably sized on all architectures again as zenity should be gone
[20:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: akonadi-facebook needs repackaged to get it up to date if it's going to have l10n added
[20:45] <apachelogger> so yay for less gnome stuff :D
[20:45] <Riddell> I mostly completed that before getting distracted
[20:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: bummer, do we want that?
[20:46] <apachelogger> this l10n mess all around is seriously freaking me out
[20:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: what was bringing in zenity?
[20:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: im-config
[20:46] <apachelogger> and zenity brought in all and every gtk lib
[20:46] <Riddell> ug
[20:46] <Riddell> well caught
[20:46] <apachelogger> so I patched in kdialog support
[20:47] <apachelogger> and then I noticed that l10n is broken there as well
[20:47] <Riddell> super
[20:47] <Riddell> less super
[20:47] <apachelogger> though that probably has to do with not being exported in a langpack
[20:48] <apachelogger> gotta poke around a bit tomorrow to get the langpacks updated and uploaded
[20:48] <apachelogger> I also have no idea whether our l10n works :S
[20:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: fwiw, https://trello.com/board/l10n/5167f79c8ddd798f6c002cf3 all them things have l10n defects
[20:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: yeah I saw
[20:49] <Riddell> apachelogger: all fixable, but needs some effort
[20:50] <apachelogger> muon only via sru, colord only via 0.3, homerun also only via sru
[20:50] <apachelogger> quite some others need investigation
[20:50]  * apachelogger thinks we should introduce l10n QA points in the release schedule
[20:50] <Riddell> why sru?
[20:50] <apachelogger> or add l10n QA to iso QA
[20:50] <Riddell> I did do that for a while
[20:51] <apachelogger> Riddell: muon is missing entire strings form the templates, so they are not translated at all, homerun's 0.2 l10n is mostly incomplete
[20:51] <apachelogger> homerun 0.2's completeness {"bs"=>28.0, "cs"=>54.666666666666664, "da"=>82.66666666666667, "de"=>69.33333333333333, "el"=>70.66666666666667, "es"=>70.66666666666667, "et"=>70.66666666666667, "fi"=>100.0, "fr"=>22.666666666666668, "ga"=>34.666666666666664, "gl"=>82.66666666666667, "hu"=>46.666666666666664, "lt"=>49.333333333333336, "nl"=>100.0, "pa"=>54.666666666666664, "pl"=>61.333333333333336, "pt"=>100.0, "pt_BR"=>100.0, "ro"=>69.
[20:51] <apachelogger> 33333333333333, "sk"=>89.33333333333333, "sv"=>89.33333333333333, "uk"=>100.0, "zh_CN"=>82.66666666666667}
[20:54] <apachelogger> oh and making matters worse for homerun ... playground apps cannot use stable l10n for some reason,so agateau would have to mark the 0.2 branch as trunk (only) translation target
[20:54] <apachelogger> it's really just very terrible :'(
[20:55] <Riddell> is there an argument for using launchpad?
[20:55] <apachelogger> that's as big a hassle IMO
[20:58] <Riddell> not much, more a question of whether it would get enough translations to make it worth it I'd think
[20:58] <apachelogger> no metrics on that unfortunately
[20:58] <apachelogger> also hard to get seeing as there are no langpacks with our software :@
[20:59] <apachelogger> would have to query lunchpad for po files directly
[21:02] <Riddell> I wonder if Darkwing will do docs this cycle
[21:02] <apachelogger> oh on that note
[21:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you have push access to kubuntu-docs?
[21:03] <apachelogger> if so, please apply what we have in the archive (I fixed the icon of the main item)
[21:03] <Riddell> apachelogger: ok
[21:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: voila
[21:40] <Riddell> hum, amarok is crashing a bit more often than I'd like
[21:52] <valorie> which version are you running, Riddell?
[22:18] <Riddell> valorie: 2:2.7.0-0ubuntu2
[22:19] <valorie> i meant the amarok version
[22:19] <valorie> oops
[22:19] <Riddell> yes
[22:19] <Riddell> so did I :)
[22:19] <valorie> hmm, perhaps I should build amarok on my test lappies too
[22:19] <valorie> and test that as well
[22:20] <valorie> no time like the present.....