fully_humanI'm planning on writing a manual test case for a package. I looked in the repository folder for the other test cases and I see a number preceding the component name. What does the number represent?02:57
balloonsit's the testid02:59
balloonsyou don't need to worry about it.. have a look on this page for a few other tips: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide02:59
fully_humanOkay, thanks.02:59
balloonsbasically when you create the new testcase, leave the number off and name it whatever you wish02:59
balloonswhen's it's synced to the tracker it will be assigned an id02:59
balloonsyour welcome fully_human .. what are you thinking of writing?03:00
fully_humanI can come up with some pretty creative names. :-)03:00
fully_humanA test case for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/111548703:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1115487 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed: Privacy control panel" [Undecided,New]03:00
balloonsexcellent.. good luck mate03:02
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pittiGood morning03:25
dholbachgood morning06:41
gemadholbach: thanks! :D06:49
gemaand good morning06:49
jibelgood morning06:53
pittibonjour jibel, comment vas-tu?07:18
pittihallo dholbach, guten Morgen!07:18
pittihey gema, how are you?07:19
dholbachhi pitti07:19
jibelBonjour pitti , ça va très bien et toi ?07:19
jibelenfin le printemps, je vais pouvoir refaire un peu de voile :)07:20
pittiyeah, I went running for the first time this year on Tuesday07:21
smartboyhwHmm very interesting. chilicuil got accepted as an Ubuntu 2200 UTC membership board member, and the first member he will be approving is Noskcaj :O10:23
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1419 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #2200 Rosetta fails to locate second_lang_msgset message ID when changing alternate language. " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141910:23
smartboyhwAnd why on did ubot5 called out a bug!?10:23
jibelubuntu 220010:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1419 in Launchpad itself "duplicate for #2200 Rosetta fails to locate second_lang_msgset message ID when changing alternate language. " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141910:24
smartboyhwjibel, :O oh no:(10:38
* smartboyhw hates ubot5 this time:P10:38
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mgorczynskianyone can help me with a few questions regarding accessibility?12:59
smartboyhwmgorczynski, oh?12:59
mgorczynski_hello i dced13:01
mgorczynski_i was asking if there is13:01
mgorczynski_any set of tests (unit or regression) for at-spi213:01
mgorczynski_do you know where i can find something like this?13:02
mgorczynski_does anybody know of this?13:04
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smartboyhwballoons, ping ping14:15
balloonssmartboyhw, howdy14:16
smartboyhwballoons, 1. see my post in planet.ubuntu.com ?14:16
smartboyhwI mentioned an interesting scenario:P14:16
smartboyhwAnd 2. aren't you supposed to pitch about ideas of doing promotion/Hangouts/IRC in final week?14:17
balloonssmartboyhw, your post is first in my reader14:19
smartboyhwballoons, it is:P14:19
balloonsI like reading your stuff.. i'm always pleased to see folks getting involved.. and I think it's awesome that younger people are doing so.14:20
smartboyhwballoons, :)14:20
balloonsabout the idea pitching, well, I was thinking about it :-)14:20
balloonsdid you come up with anything yourself?14:20
smartboyhwballoons, do a 24-hour marathon again?:P14:21
smartboyhwballoons, :P14:23
balloonsseriously though.. what else could we do? Hmm.. hmm..14:29
smartboyhwballoons, hmm hmm hmm14:29
balloonsyou want a testdrive hackfest don't you?14:29
smartboyhwballoons, good one there.14:29
smartboyhwballoons, if we ARE going to do it, we MUST do it the coming week.14:30
balloonsLet's plan something fun instead14:30
smartboyhwballoons, :(14:30
balloonshow about a release party?14:30
smartboyhwballoons, :O14:30
balloonssmartboyhw, we can still hack on testdrive sometime :-)14:30
balloonsyes, a release party14:30
balloonswe should celebrate our work14:30
smartboyhwballoons, em the testing tools are VERY important for QA testers to test14:30
smartboyhwballoons, do both:P14:30
smartboyhwballoons, you have the final call though14:31
balloonswe'll include tools in our next hackfest14:31
balloonsincluding testdrive ;-)14:31
smartboyhwballoons, OK:)14:31
balloonsok, so you like th release party idea?14:31
smartboyhwballoons, how are we gonna plan this online release party!?14:31
smartboyhwballoons, I thought release parties apply to LoCos14:31
balloonsyes, but we're a team.. and we work together14:31
smartboyhwballoons, and I thought of #ubuntu-release-party when 12.10 was (about to be) released14:32
balloonswe should have a party too :-)14:32
smartboyhwPeople get too excited and spread the download links before it was *officially* released14:32
smartboyhwThey are all banned (LOL)14:32
smartboyhwballoons, OK let's plan!14:32
balloonsI would make food for everyone, but it's hard to deliver to everyone14:32
smartboyhwballoons, LOL14:32
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smartboyhwballoons, deliever everyone some 13.04 merchandise maybe:P14:33
smartboyhwballoons, it will take you a LOT of money14:34
balloonssmartboyhw, :-) What would you like?14:35
smartboyhwHey chilicuil14:35
balloonssee chilicuil joined.. he's got ideas!14:35
smartboyhwCongrats on being approved (or renewed?) into the membership board14:35
smartboyhwchilicuil, one interesting thing: For the first 2200UTC of your new term, the first applicant you are reviewing is Noskcaj!14:36
chilicuilsmartboyhw: wow, cool, it'll be my pleasure =)14:36
smartboyhwchilicuil, :)14:36
chilicuilhey balloons =)!14:36
* smartboyhw has posted about it in Planet Ubuntu14:37
smartboyhwchilicuil, any ideas? We are thinking about a release party for the QA Team..14:39
balloonshey chilicuil14:39
balloonsas smartboyhw says, we've been thinking about what to do for the release14:39
balloonshe mentioned a hangout again, and I was trying to be creative14:39
balloonsso I thought of having a party :-)14:39
chilicuilnice past smartboyhw, he's secured a vote for sure14:40
balloonsBut yes, ideas or desires for testing next week?14:40
smartboyhwchilicuil, :P14:40
chilicuilhow would be that party?14:41
balloonschilicuil, I don't know.. smartboyhw is right, a bit hard perhaps to have a party.14:43
balloonsmy idea was to basically make it a beat more upbeat and fun14:43
balloonswe did technical demos on hangouts last time, which was great.. I wonder if we can do something a little different to celebrate as a team14:43
balloonsall of our work is being combined with the rest of the folks who worked on raring to finally see it released.. it's exciting !14:44
smartboyhwballoons, hmm.....14:44
smartboyhwWe really SHOULD put this into the mailing list.14:44
chilicuilwhat about making a contest in parallel with the hangout?, and declare an iso testing heroe at the final of it?, we could give a X amount of points for every sucessuful report during that day14:45
smartboyhwchilicuil, disagree14:45
smartboyhwPeople might just go and file reports on every single image.14:45
chilicuilsmartboyhw: yep, it could happen, but at least they could know the process, although there is another drawback.., it could be too much competitive to be fun..14:46
smartboyhwChanServ, I agree14:47
smartboyhwchilicuil, ^14:47
smartboyhwSorry Freenode ops:P14:47
chilicuilwhat about making a showcase of every app which changed radically, for example, gwibber14:48
smartboyhwchilicuil, whoa that's difficult.14:48
smartboyhwchilicuil, balloons could have done it all by himself:P14:48
balloonsI'm paying attn but in a hangout, fyi :-)14:49
balloonskeep ideas coming14:49
balloonsI like sharing stuff that's changed14:49
balloonsand maybe people sharing there testing setups, etc?14:49
balloonsmaybe like a lightening talks for the team piece too?14:49
smartboyhwballoons, maybe tell people figures of how many images we tested? How many results have we submitted (in the WHOLE cycle)14:49
balloonsyou can get 5 mins to demo, show something, or talk about something14:50
smartboyhwballoons, :O14:50
smartboyhwGood idea14:50
chilicuilsharing tricks sounds awesome, I've always wondered how you guys make so much with so little time14:50
balloonsok, let's plan for that14:50
smartboyhwballoons, one thing: Put a video in the back of you, record your 5-day work cycle, :P14:51
balloonssmartboyhw, a time lapse video?14:51
smartboyhwballoons, yep:P14:51
smartboyhwLet us see how DO you work:P14:51
balloonssure, I can share my desk lol..14:52
smartboyhwballoons, the whole 5 days14:52
smartboyhwballoons, what about the interview idea?:P14:52
chilicuilthat sounds neat too, actually it would be awesome if someone could take videos testing ubuntu for a complete cycle, and see how things changed (an idea for the next cycle maybe)14:52
balloonsI'd be happy to do a q & a14:53
balloonsso ideas we have.. hangout with the following agenda: 5 min demos/sharing time, q & a with me14:53
smartboyhwballoons, chilicuil no. I want to do a video of EVERY Ubuntu release found in the official mirrors:P14:53
smartboyhwballoons, +114:53
chilicuilyep balloons14:54
smartboyhwEven old-releases14:54
balloonsanything else to add to the agenda?14:54
smartboyhwballoons, look some liens above, before chilicuil's big line.14:55
balloonsohh the app showcase? that could be part of demo time14:55
smartboyhwballoons, um no.14:55
smartboyhwThe interview idea...:...:...:...:...14:56
balloonsdemo something, show off your favorite app that's changed, share your testing setup14:56
balloonsthe interview idea? I added that I would do a live q & a14:56
smartboyhwballoons, live q & a with whom?14:56
balloonsme :-) or anyone else you wish14:57
smartboyhwballoons, OK then.14:57
smartboyhwballoons, maybe do it like this: 5 minutes of people's showcase, let you interview him.14:57
smartboyhwThen after all finished: A Q&A with balloons14:58
balloonssounds like a plan. So what day/times work for everyone? I'll do a post to the list after this meeting15:00
smartboyhwballoons, trello poll:P15:00
smartboyhwballoons, interesting thing: Now if you are a QA flavour lead normally you'll be put into your own flavour's release team so you can mark builds ready..15:01
smartboyhwThat applys to me and phillw at least15:01
smartboyhw(phillw got it now)15:01
balloonssmartboyhw, ask the release folks about that15:02
balloonsthey've got the power there15:02
smartboyhwballoons, don't I know?15:02
chilicuilfor me, weekends =(, or 20.00, 21.00 utc during the week15:02
smartboyhwI mean it seems interesting that this is sort of a path after Testcase Admins....15:02
smartboyhwballoons, for me: 14.00 UTC15:02
smartboyhwNo 15.00 UTC... (I got curfewed:()15:03
balloonsweekend would be interesting15:03
smartboyhwballoons, ask if dholbach would like to join that for some autopkgtest explanation:P15:04
balloonsfree hugs from dholbach !15:04
balloonswe'll advertise15:04
* smartboyhw and balloons hugs dholbach 15:04
* dholbach hugs you all back :)15:05
smartboyhwdholbach, you should set up a hug counter:P15:07
smartboyhwone year later: Let's see who hugged dholbach most:P15:07
dholbachno no, that's not necessary :)15:08
smartboyhwHey SergioMeneses15:10
smartboyhwballoons, SergioMeneses is here!15:10
balloonsHey SergioMeneses :-)15:10
SergioMenesesomg what happen?15:11
chilicuilSergioMeneses have ideas! =)15:12
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, we are discussing of an idea of doing release parties. We are planning for some hangout, where each person gets 5 minutes to showcase. That guy will be interviewed afterwards. After all of that has ended, balloons will have an Q&A:P15:12
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, balloons \o\15:12
smartboyhwBut any others?15:12
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, using onair? or regular hangouts?15:13
SergioMeneseschilicuil, balloons ↑↑↑15:13
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, on air:P15:15
balloonsyes we'll do on air..15:16
chilicuilSergioMeneses: yep, on air, as the final QA party for raring15:16
SergioMenesessounds good for me!15:16
SergioMenesesthis onair will be about testing or only interviews?15:17
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, partly partly:P15:18
balloonsSergioMeneses, I wanted to make it a bit lighter.. rather than tehnical talks15:18
smartboyhwballoons, OK:)15:19
SergioMenesesballoons, nice! you have my interview15:19
SergioMenesesballoons, chilicuil smartboyhw do you go to ask the same questions? or dynamic15:20
smartboyhwSergioMeneses, ?15:21
smartboyhwHello smartboyhw_ :P15:22
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SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I mean, do you have a list of questions or improvise?15:22
chilicuilI'll ask if I've questions about what you'll be enlighten, I think they wont be plain interviews, but some kind of dynamic where everyone could show any interesting thing about testing, and we could ask (as anyone else) questions we've15:22
SergioMenesesa lot of instances about smartboyhw_ jeje15:22
SergioMeneseschilicuil, ok15:23
smartboyhw_SergioMeneses: a lot of instances about me? Name a few15:23
SergioMenesessmartboyhw_, jeje like me: SergioMeneses SergioMenesesAFK15:23
smartboyhw_SergioMeneses : ah15:24
SergioMeneseschilicuil, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct15:27
chilicuilthat's the new code of conduct?, SergioMeneses15:27
smartboyhw_SergioMeneses: I always refer to the one in ubuntu.com15:28
SergioMeneseschilicuil, yes it is! :)15:28
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chilicuilSergioMeneses: I though the ubuntu-ve had a spanish version, I'll check it out and if it's not up to date, I'll translate it this weekend, thanks for pointing this out15:29
SergioMeneseschilicuil, here is http://www.ubuntu-ve.org/?q=codigodeconducta15:30
* balloons is still paying attention as I can.. keep chatting :-)15:31
SergioMenesesbut it is the old version15:31
balloonsor if someone wishes, write it up to the mailing list and get some feedback ;-)15:31
balloonsI'll chime in when I'm free in a few15:31
balloonsok, I'm back :-)15:35
balloonsalright so everyone is on board.. SergioMeneses what is a good day/time for you to have this hangout?15:35
smartboyhwphillw: You here? ^15:36
SergioMenesesballoons, I think in the release party will be ok15:37
SergioMenesesFriday 26 I guess15:38
balloonsthe release is in 2 weeks15:38
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, balloons chilicuil ↑↑↑15:38
SergioMenesesrelease party link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2322/15:38
smartboyhwSergioMeneses you mean April?!15:39
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, yes15:39
balloonsI worry about smartboyhw not being able to make a single time though15:39
balloonsthe time will likely end up in the middle of his night15:39
smartboyhwballoons: Let us create a Ubuntu QA LoCo:P15:39
smartboyhwballoons: Yeah I always miss all the fun:(15:40
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, jejeje our own loco!!!15:41
smartboyhwLOL yel15:41
SergioMenesesbtw what time is there smartboyhw ?15:41
SergioMenesesballoons, but smartboyhw is online15:42
smartboyhwSergioMeneses: Please vote for us when we apply for approved LoCi15:42
smartboyhwSergioMeneses I'm in mobilr.15:42
balloonsit's 23:14 for smartboyhw15:42
SergioMenesesballoons, but it will be Friday!15:43
smartboyhwballoons it is 23:4315:43
smartboyhwSergioMeneses this IS already a Friday…15:43
SergioMenesessmartboyhw, I mean the hangout15:45
smartboyhwSergioMeneses yeah how do I participate in a hangout on mobile?15:46
SergioMenesesmmm... I thought you have s pc near you15:47
SergioMeneses<smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Please vote for us when we apply for approved LoCi -> jajaja15:55
* SergioMeneses is upgrading 12.10 to 13.0416:09
SergioMenesesballoons, smartboyhw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/116195316:13
ubot5Launchpad bug 1161953 in language-selector (Ubuntu Precise) "gnome-language-selector crashed with TypeError in _expand_pkg_pattern(): not enough arguments for format string" [High,Fix committed]16:13
smartboyhwuh oh16:13
balloonsoh noes!16:13
SergioMenesesI'm going to confirme it, I dont have that problem before16:13
balloonsok.. I think I can do this irssi19:27
balloonslol.. I'm trying out irssi19:28
wxlneed help? :)19:28
balloonsseems ok.. can you say my name wxl?19:28
wxlsure balloons i'd be happy to19:29
balloonsok, I don't see any highlighting or anything special..19:29
wxlwell that's not good19:29
wxldid you do /hilight balloons19:30
wxlwhat's the value of /set hilight_level and /set hilight_nick_matches ?19:31
balloonsI did not.. I got as far as getting logged in19:37
wxlthen do that :)19:38
wxlballoons: you mean19:39
balloonsohh look19:39
balloonsinteresting.. so people make hilight windows or?19:39
wxli had to severely tweak mine to get it right19:40
balloonsinteresting, ok I'll play aroun19:41
balloonsanything else to note.. I think between that and getting my autologin stuff set I might be ok19:41
wxlballoons: well in a way it's highly personal. i spent the better part of an evening going through the manual. if i hadn't dedicated all that time, i'd probably be using weechat.19:57
balloonswxl: :-)19:57
wxlcuz that's the one thing i wish i had: split windows in both directions19:57
phillwballoons: you about?20:51
phillwI've tried both http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyrnvAlrv4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntJcP3ZHLc The image is blurred on my system20:52
phillwcan you check if it is an issue on my lubuntu / FFox combination.20:53
balloonsphillw, ahh20:59
balloonsyou can change the resolution.. up it to at least 480p20:59
balloons360p might be a little blurry if you want to full screen and project20:59
balloonsif needed, use a download plugin to download the videos ahead of time :-)20:59
balloonsif you do that, i'd recommend grabbing the 720p copy20:59
SergioMenesesphillw, change the quality21:00
SergioMenesesit is 1080 tops21:00
SergioMenesesballoons, \o21:00
balloonsSergioMeneses, :-)21:00
phillwthanks SergioMeneses :) Much better :D21:01
SergioMenesesphillw, is not a big deal :)21:01
phillwI normally accept the you-tube default.21:01
phillwI'll try to download it at the higher quality.21:02
SergioMenesesphillw, the default depends of your bandwidth21:02
phillwSergioMeneses I have the download helper extension, just getting used to the new 'lo-fat' version of FFox (I use Chromium mainly).21:04
SergioMenesesphillw, jejeje me too :)21:04
SergioMenesesI only use chrome or chromium to play or something similar21:05
phillwoh, and balloons SergioMeneses the lxrandr works very nicely, now supports different resolutions and screen size. The lxde people have made a good job of what used to be GrandR.21:05
balloonsphillw, yea it's defaulting to 360p because of your slow speed I'm sure21:10
balloonsuse a download helper and grab the top quality version21:10
phillwballoons: I'm already on it :)21:10
SergioMenesesphillw, excellent news!!!21:11
phillwhaving them on piglet as files will save any problems when giving the presentation, I know there is WiFi at the place, but with a room full of geeks, having them on my hard drive is a good idea :D21:11
SergioMenesesphillw, balloons sadly I have to go, see you soon21:13
phillwSergioMeneses tc :)21:13
SergioMenesesbtw phillw I'm still working on the bug taht you show me yesterday21:13
phillwSergioMeneses as is Ali from lubuntu comms team :)21:14
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