[02:57] <fully_human> I'm planning on writing a manual test case for a package. I looked in the repository folder for the other test cases and I see a number preceding the component name. What does the number represent?
[02:59] <balloons> it's the testid
[02:59] <balloons> you don't need to worry about it.. have a look on this page for a few other tips: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/ManualStyleGuide
[02:59] <fully_human> Okay, thanks.
[02:59] <balloons> basically when you create the new testcase, leave the number off and name it whatever you wish
[02:59] <balloons> when's it's synced to the tracker it will be assigned an id
[03:00] <balloons> your welcome fully_human .. what are you thinking of writing?
[03:00] <fully_human> I can come up with some pretty creative names. :-)
[03:00] <balloons> :-0
[03:00] <fully_human> A test case for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1115487
[03:02] <balloons> excellent.. good luck mate
[03:25] <pitti> Good morning
[06:41] <dholbach> good morning
[06:49] <gema> dholbach: thanks! :D
[06:49] <gema> and good morning
[06:49] <dholbach> :)
[06:53] <jibel> good morning
[07:18] <pitti> bonjour jibel, comment vas-tu?
[07:18] <pitti> hallo dholbach, guten Morgen!
[07:19] <pitti> hey gema, how are you?
[07:19] <dholbach> hi pitti
[07:19] <jibel> Bonjour pitti , ça va très bien et toi ?
[07:20] <jibel> enfin le printemps, je vais pouvoir refaire un peu de voile :)
[07:21] <pitti> yeah, I went running for the first time this year on Tuesday
[07:21] <pitti> finally!
[10:23] <smartboyhw> Hmm very interesting. chilicuil got accepted as an Ubuntu 2200 UTC membership board member, and the first member he will be approving is Noskcaj :O
[10:23] <smartboyhw> And why on did ubot5 called out a bug!?
[10:24] <jibel> ubuntu 2200
[10:38] <smartboyhw> jibel, :O oh no:(
[10:38]  * smartboyhw hates ubot5 this time:P
[12:57] <dsasaddas> hello
[12:59] <mgorczynski> anyone can help me with a few questions regarding accessibility?
[12:59] <smartboyhw> mgorczynski, oh?
[13:01] <mgorczynski_> hello i dced
[13:01] <mgorczynski_> i was asking if there is
[13:01] <mgorczynski_> any set of tests (unit or regression) for at-spi2
[13:02] <mgorczynski_> do you know where i can find something like this?
[13:02] <smartboyhw> !?
[13:02] <smartboyhw> :P
[13:04] <mgorczynski_> does anybody know of this?
[14:15] <smartboyhw> balloons, ping ping
[14:16] <balloons> smartboyhw, howdy
[14:16] <smartboyhw> balloons, 1. see my post in planet.ubuntu.com ?
[14:16] <smartboyhw> I mentioned an interesting scenario:P
[14:17] <smartboyhw> And 2. aren't you supposed to pitch about ideas of doing promotion/Hangouts/IRC in final week?
[14:19] <balloons> smartboyhw, your post is first in my reader
[14:19] <smartboyhw> balloons, it is:P
[14:20] <balloons> I like reading your stuff.. i'm always pleased to see folks getting involved.. and I think it's awesome that younger people are doing so.
[14:20] <smartboyhw> balloons, :)
[14:20] <balloons> about the idea pitching, well, I was thinking about it :-)
[14:20] <balloons> did you come up with anything yourself?
[14:21] <smartboyhw> balloons, do a 24-hour marathon again?:P
[14:22] <balloons> haha!
[14:23] <smartboyhw> balloons, :P
[14:29] <balloons> seriously though.. what else could we do? Hmm.. hmm..
[14:29] <smartboyhw> balloons, hmm hmm hmm
[14:29] <balloons> you want a testdrive hackfest don't you?
[14:29] <smartboyhw> balloons, good one there.
[14:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, if we ARE going to do it, we MUST do it the coming week.
[14:30] <balloons> Let's plan something fun instead
[14:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, :(
[14:30] <balloons> how about a release party?
[14:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, :O
[14:30] <smartboyhw> !?
[14:30] <balloons> smartboyhw, we can still hack on testdrive sometime :-)
[14:30] <balloons> yes, a release party
[14:30] <balloons> we should celebrate our work
[14:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, em the testing tools are VERY important for QA testers to test
[14:30] <smartboyhw> balloons, do both:P
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, you have the final call though
[14:31] <balloons> we'll include tools in our next hackfest
[14:31] <balloons> including testdrive ;-)
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, OK:)
[14:31] <balloons> excellent
[14:31] <balloons> ok, so you like th release party idea?
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, how are we gonna plan this online release party!?
[14:31] <smartboyhw> balloons, I thought release parties apply to LoCos
[14:31] <balloons> yes, but we're a team.. and we work together
[14:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, and I thought of #ubuntu-release-party when 12.10 was (about to be) released
[14:32] <balloons> we should have a party too :-)
[14:32] <balloons> hehe
[14:32] <smartboyhw> People get too excited and spread the download links before it was *officially* released
[14:32] <smartboyhw> They are all banned (LOL)
[14:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, OK let's plan!
[14:32] <balloons> I would make food for everyone, but it's hard to deliver to everyone
[14:32] <smartboyhw> balloons, LOL
[14:32]  * smartboyhw laughs over
[14:33] <smartboyhw> balloons, deliever everyone some 13.04 merchandise maybe:P
[14:34] <smartboyhw> balloons, it will take you a LOT of money
[14:35] <balloons> smartboyhw, :-) What would you like?
[14:35] <smartboyhw> Hey chilicuil
[14:35] <balloons> see chilicuil joined.. he's got ideas!
[14:35] <smartboyhw> Congrats on being approved (or renewed?) into the membership board
[14:36] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, one interesting thing: For the first 2200UTC of your new term, the first applicant you are reviewing is Noskcaj!
[14:36] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: wow, cool, it'll be my pleasure =)
[14:36] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, :)
[14:36] <chilicuil> hey balloons =)!
[14:37]  * smartboyhw has posted about it in Planet Ubuntu
[14:39] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, any ideas? We are thinking about a release party for the QA Team..
[14:39] <balloons> hey chilicuil
[14:39] <balloons> as smartboyhw says, we've been thinking about what to do for the release
[14:39] <balloons> he mentioned a hangout again, and I was trying to be creative
[14:39] <balloons> so I thought of having a party :-)
[14:40] <chilicuil> nice past smartboyhw, he's secured a vote for sure
[14:40] <balloons> But yes, ideas or desires for testing next week?
[14:40] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, :P
[14:41] <chilicuil> how would be that party?
[14:43] <balloons> chilicuil, I don't know.. smartboyhw is right, a bit hard perhaps to have a party.
[14:43] <balloons> my idea was to basically make it a beat more upbeat and fun
[14:43] <balloons> we did technical demos on hangouts last time, which was great.. I wonder if we can do something a little different to celebrate as a team
[14:44] <balloons> all of our work is being combined with the rest of the folks who worked on raring to finally see it released.. it's exciting !
[14:44] <smartboyhw> balloons, hmm.....
[14:44] <smartboyhw> We really SHOULD put this into the mailing list.
[14:45] <chilicuil> what about making a contest in parallel with the hangout?, and declare an iso testing heroe at the final of it?, we could give a X amount of points for every sucessuful report during that day
[14:45] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, disagree
[14:45] <smartboyhw> People might just go and file reports on every single image.
[14:46] <chilicuil> smartboyhw: yep, it could happen, but at least they could know the process, although there is another drawback.., it could be too much competitive to be fun..
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ChanServ, I agree
[14:47] <smartboyhw> oops
[14:47] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, ^
[14:47] <smartboyhw> Sorry Freenode ops:P
[14:48] <chilicuil> what about making a showcase of every app which changed radically, for example, gwibber
[14:48] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, whoa that's difficult.
[14:48] <balloons> interesting
[14:48] <smartboyhw> chilicuil, balloons could have done it all by himself:P
[14:49] <balloons> I'm paying attn but in a hangout, fyi :-)
[14:49] <balloons> keep ideas coming
[14:49] <balloons> I like sharing stuff that's changed
[14:49] <balloons> and maybe people sharing there testing setups, etc?
[14:49] <balloons> maybe like a lightening talks for the team piece too?
[14:49] <smartboyhw> balloons, maybe tell people figures of how many images we tested? How many results have we submitted (in the WHOLE cycle)
[14:50] <balloons> you can get 5 mins to demo, show something, or talk about something
[14:50] <smartboyhw> balloons, :O
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Good idea
[14:50] <chilicuil> sharing tricks sounds awesome, I've always wondered how you guys make so much with so little time
[14:50] <balloons> ok, let's plan for that
[14:51] <smartboyhw> balloons, one thing: Put a video in the back of you, record your 5-day work cycle, :P
[14:51] <balloons> smartboyhw, a time lapse video?
[14:51] <smartboyhw> balloons, yep:P
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Let us see how DO you work:P
[14:52] <balloons> sure, I can share my desk lol..
[14:52] <smartboyhw> balloons, the whole 5 days
[14:52] <smartboyhw> balloons, what about the interview idea?:P
[14:52] <chilicuil> that sounds neat too, actually it would be awesome if someone could take videos testing ubuntu for a complete cycle, and see how things changed (an idea for the next cycle maybe)
[14:53] <balloons> I'd be happy to do a q & a
[14:53] <balloons> so ideas we have.. hangout with the following agenda: 5 min demos/sharing time, q & a with me
[14:53] <smartboyhw> balloons, chilicuil no. I want to do a video of EVERY Ubuntu release found in the official mirrors:P
[14:53] <smartboyhw> balloons, +1
[14:54] <chilicuil> yep balloons
[14:54] <smartboyhw> Even old-releases
[14:54] <balloons> anything else to add to the agenda?
[14:55] <smartboyhw> balloons, look some liens above, before chilicuil's big line.
[14:55] <smartboyhw> s/liens/lines/
[14:55] <balloons> ohh the app showcase? that could be part of demo time
[14:55] <smartboyhw> balloons, um no.
[14:56] <smartboyhw> The interview idea...:...:...:...:...
[14:56] <balloons> demo something, show off your favorite app that's changed, share your testing setup
[14:56] <balloons> the interview idea? I added that I would do a live q & a
[14:56] <smartboyhw> balloons, live q & a with whom?
[14:57] <balloons> me :-) or anyone else you wish
[14:57] <smartboyhw> balloons, OK then.
[14:57] <smartboyhw> balloons, maybe do it like this: 5 minutes of people's showcase, let you interview him.
[14:58] <smartboyhw> Then after all finished: A Q&A with balloons
[15:00] <balloons> sounds like a plan. So what day/times work for everyone? I'll do a post to the list after this meeting
[15:00] <smartboyhw> balloons, trello poll:P
[15:01] <smartboyhw> balloons, interesting thing: Now if you are a QA flavour lead normally you'll be put into your own flavour's release team so you can mark builds ready..
[15:01] <smartboyhw> That applys to me and phillw at least
[15:01] <smartboyhw> (phillw got it now)
[15:02] <balloons> smartboyhw, ask the release folks about that
[15:02] <balloons> they've got the power there
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons, don't I know?
[15:02] <chilicuil> for me, weekends =(, or 20.00, 21.00 utc during the week
[15:02] <smartboyhw> I mean it seems interesting that this is sort of a path after Testcase Admins....
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons, for me: 14.00 UTC
[15:03] <smartboyhw> No 15.00 UTC... (I got curfewed:()
[15:03] <balloons> weekend would be interesting
[15:04] <smartboyhw> balloons, ask if dholbach would like to join that for some autopkgtest explanation:P
[15:04] <balloons> :-)
[15:04] <balloons> free hugs from dholbach !
[15:04] <balloons> we'll advertise
[15:04]  * smartboyhw and balloons hugs dholbach 
[15:05]  * dholbach hugs you all back :)
[15:07] <smartboyhw> dholbach, you should set up a hug counter:P
[15:07] <smartboyhw> one year later: Let's see who hugged dholbach most:P
[15:08] <dholbach> no no, that's not necessary :)
[15:10] <smartboyhw> Hey SergioMeneses
[15:10] <smartboyhw> balloons, SergioMeneses is here!
[15:10] <balloons> Hey SergioMeneses :-)
[15:11] <SergioMeneses> omg what happen?
[15:12] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses have ideas! =)
[15:12] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, we are discussing of an idea of doing release parties. We are planning for some hangout, where each person gets 5 minutes to showcase. That guy will be interviewed afterwards. After all of that has ended, balloons will have an Q&A:P
[15:12] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, balloons \o\
[15:12] <smartboyhw> But any others?
[15:13] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, using onair? or regular hangouts?
[15:13] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, balloons ↑↑↑
[15:15] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, on air:P
[15:16] <balloons> yes we'll do on air..
[15:16] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: yep, on air, as the final QA party for raring
[15:16] <SergioMeneses> sounds good for me!
[15:17] <SergioMeneses> this onair will be about testing or only interviews?
[15:18] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, partly partly:P
[15:18] <balloons> SergioMeneses, I wanted to make it a bit lighter.. rather than tehnical talks
[15:19] <smartboyhw> balloons, OK:)
[15:19] <SergioMeneses> balloons, nice! you have my interview
[15:20] <SergioMeneses> balloons, chilicuil smartboyhw do you go to ask the same questions? or dynamic
[15:21] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses, ?
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Hello smartboyhw_ :P
[15:22]  * smartboyhw exits the desktop
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I mean, do you have a list of questions or improvise?
[15:22] <chilicuil> I'll ask if I've questions about what you'll be enlighten, I think they wont be plain interviews, but some kind of dynamic where everyone could show any interesting thing about testing, and we could ask (as anyone else) questions we've
[15:22] <SergioMeneses> a lot of instances about smartboyhw_ jeje
[15:23] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, ok
[15:23] <smartboyhw_> SergioMeneses: a lot of instances about me? Name a few
[15:23] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw_, jeje like me: SergioMeneses SergioMenesesAFK
[15:24] <smartboyhw_> SergioMeneses : ah
[15:27] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-codeofconduct
[15:27] <chilicuil> that's the new code of conduct?, SergioMeneses
[15:28] <smartboyhw_> SergioMeneses: I always refer to the one in ubuntu.com
[15:28] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, yes it is! :)
[15:29] <chilicuil> SergioMeneses: I though the ubuntu-ve had a spanish version, I'll check it out and if it's not up to date, I'll translate it this weekend, thanks for pointing this out
[15:30] <SergioMeneses> chilicuil, here is http://www.ubuntu-ve.org/?q=codigodeconducta
[15:31]  * balloons is still paying attention as I can.. keep chatting :-)
[15:31] <SergioMeneses> but it is the old version
[15:31] <balloons> or if someone wishes, write it up to the mailing list and get some feedback ;-)
[15:31] <balloons> I'll chime in when I'm free in a few
[15:32] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:35] <balloons> ok, I'm back :-)
[15:35] <balloons> alright so everyone is on board.. SergioMeneses what is a good day/time for you to have this hangout?
[15:36] <smartboyhw> phillw: You here? ^
[15:37] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I think in the release party will be ok
[15:38] <SergioMeneses> Friday 26 I guess
[15:38] <balloons> the release is in 2 weeks
[15:38] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, balloons chilicuil ↑↑↑
[15:38] <SergioMeneses> release party link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2322/
[15:39] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses you mean April?!
[15:39] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, yes
[15:39] <balloons> I worry about smartboyhw not being able to make a single time though
[15:39] <balloons> the time will likely end up in the middle of his night
[15:39] <smartboyhw> balloons: Let us create a Ubuntu QA LoCo:P
[15:40] <smartboyhw> balloons: Yeah I always miss all the fun:(
[15:41] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, jejeje our own loco!!!
[15:41] <smartboyhw> LOL yel
[15:41] <SergioMeneses> btw what time is there smartboyhw ?
[15:42] <SergioMeneses> balloons, but smartboyhw is online
[15:42] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses: Please vote for us when we apply for approved LoCi
[15:42] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses I'm in mobilr.
[15:42] <balloons> it's 23:14 for smartboyhw
[15:43] <SergioMeneses> balloons, but it will be Friday!
[15:43] <smartboyhw> balloons it is 23:43
[15:43] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses this IS already a Friday…
[15:45] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, I mean the hangout
[15:46] <smartboyhw> SergioMeneses yeah how do I participate in a hangout on mobile?
[15:47] <SergioMeneses> mmm... I thought you have s pc near you
[15:47] <SergioMeneses> s/s/a
[15:48] <balloons> :-)
 SergioMeneses: Please vote for us when we apply for approved LoCi -> jajaja
[15:55] <smartboyhw> lol
[16:09]  * SergioMeneses is upgrading 12.10 to 13.04
[16:11] <smartboyhw> \o/
[16:12] <balloons> nice!
[16:13] <SergioMeneses> balloons, smartboyhw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1161953
[16:13] <smartboyhw> uh oh
[16:13] <balloons> oh noes!
[16:13] <SergioMeneses> I'm going to confirme it, I dont have that problem before
[19:27] <balloons> ok.. I think I can do this irssi
[19:27] <wxl> ?
[19:28] <balloons> lol.. I'm trying out irssi
[19:28] <wxl> need help? :)
[19:28] <balloons> seems ok.. can you say my name wxl?
[19:29] <wxl> sure balloons i'd be happy to
[19:29] <balloons> ok, I don't see any highlighting or anything special..
[19:29] <balloons> :-)
[19:29] <wxl> well that's not good
[19:30] <wxl> did you do /hilight balloons
[19:30] <wxl> ?
[19:31] <wxl> what's the value of /set hilight_level and /set hilight_nick_matches ?
[19:37] <balloons> I did not.. I got as far as getting logged in
[19:38] <wxl> then do that :)
[19:38] <balloons> balloons
[19:39] <wxl> balloons: you mean
[19:39] <balloons> ohh look
[19:39] <balloons> interesting.. so people make hilight windows or?
[19:39] <wxl> yea
[19:39] <wxl> lame
[19:40] <wxl> i had to severely tweak mine to get it right
[19:41] <balloons> interesting, ok I'll play aroun
[19:41] <balloons> anything else to note.. I think between that and getting my autologin stuff set I might be ok
[19:57] <wxl> balloons: well in a way it's highly personal. i spent the better part of an evening going through the manual. if i hadn't dedicated all that time, i'd probably be using weechat.
[19:57] <balloons> wxl: :-)
[19:57] <wxl> cuz that's the one thing i wish i had: split windows in both directions
[20:51] <phillw> balloons: you about?
[20:51] <balloons> indeed
[20:52] <phillw> I've tried both http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIyrnvAlrv4 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KntJcP3ZHLc The image is blurred on my system
[20:53] <phillw> can you check if it is an issue on my lubuntu / FFox combination.
[20:59] <balloons> phillw, ahh
[20:59] <balloons> you can change the resolution.. up it to at least 480p
[20:59] <balloons> 360p might be a little blurry if you want to full screen and project
[20:59] <balloons> if needed, use a download plugin to download the videos ahead of time :-)
[20:59] <balloons> if you do that, i'd recommend grabbing the 720p copy
[21:00] <SergioMeneses> phillw, change the quality
[21:00] <SergioMeneses> it is 1080 tops
[21:00] <SergioMeneses> px
[21:00] <SergioMeneses> balloons, \o
[21:00] <balloons> SergioMeneses, :-)
[21:01] <phillw> thanks SergioMeneses :) Much better :D
[21:01] <SergioMeneses> phillw, is not a big deal :)
[21:01] <phillw> I normally accept the you-tube default.
[21:02] <phillw> I'll try to download it at the higher quality.
[21:02] <SergioMeneses> phillw, the default depends of your bandwidth
[21:04] <phillw> SergioMeneses I have the download helper extension, just getting used to the new 'lo-fat' version of FFox (I use Chromium mainly).
[21:04] <SergioMeneses> phillw, jejeje me too :)
[21:05] <SergioMeneses> I only use chrome or chromium to play or something similar
[21:05] <phillw> oh, and balloons SergioMeneses the lxrandr works very nicely, now supports different resolutions and screen size. The lxde people have made a good job of what used to be GrandR.
[21:09] <balloons> :-)
[21:10] <balloons> phillw, yea it's defaulting to 360p because of your slow speed I'm sure
[21:10] <balloons> use a download helper and grab the top quality version
[21:10] <phillw> balloons: I'm already on it :)
[21:11] <SergioMeneses> phillw, excellent news!!!
[21:11] <phillw> having them on piglet as files will save any problems when giving the presentation, I know there is WiFi at the place, but with a room full of geeks, having them on my hard drive is a good idea :D
[21:13] <SergioMeneses> phillw, balloons sadly I have to go, see you soon
[21:13] <phillw> SergioMeneses tc :)
[21:13] <SergioMeneses> btw phillw I'm still working on the bug taht you show me yesterday
[21:14] <phillw> SergioMeneses as is Ali from lubuntu comms team :)
[21:14] <SergioMeneses> ;)