[00:29] anyone? [00:29] pls? [00:37] * Linton is just lurking for info. [00:49] is there somewhere to keep up with a changelog for touch? ie things that are changing from the release notes? [00:53] xda forums seem to have some unofficial threads that compile them [00:56] there is also a ubuntu touch summary section in ubuntu weekly newsletter [00:57] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg01464.html for week 13, as in UWN 311 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue311 [01:31] just curious how far are you guys with ubuntu phone im getting a xperia z next month i have a good working smarthphone so i want to use the experia z to experiment with ubuntu touch i have little knowledge about flashing phones but i can work my way around in ubuntu if i want to install it could i use the nexus image or should i install it another way === spanner3003 is now known as spanner3003-slee === spanner3003-slee is now known as spanner3003-bed === Namidairo_ is now known as Namidairo [02:25] How can i connect to a hidden SSID using ubuntu phone? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee [06:29] Is there any provision to run ubuntu touch on virtual box? [06:43] lool: could you do a new upload of lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit into raring? I merged your raring changes into trunk so it should be ready for an upload [06:43] good morning [07:05] good morning [07:26] hello all [07:26] :) [07:27] who knows anything about ubuntu toutch:) i have a fiew questiuons:) [07:41] Wellark: ping === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [07:43] gusch: pong [07:45] Wellark: is there some documendation for qml HUD ? [07:48] gusch: not at the moment. The final API is still in flux. :/ [07:48] Wellark: and where can I find the current API? [07:48] the plan is to get the HUD and the API finalized by the end of this month [07:48] gusch: the current 1.0 is in lp:libhud-qt [07:49] gusch: we are investigating on creating an unified action class for all of the unity APIs [07:49] and that affects the HUD API also [07:50] gusch: I'm able to work with the HUD API next week with the SDK team for review [07:50] Wellark: I was rather interested in how to enable/disable context [07:51] gusch: that is still WIP in the backend, too [07:51] Wellark: but would it be better to wait for further work on HUD? [07:51] gusch: have you gotten any additional specifications for new actions? [07:52] or are you only interested on the context support right now? [07:52] Wellark: more or less - well - I was looking for doing HUD "right" for gallery [07:53] gusch: yeah, like the edit commands are only available on edit view and such [07:54] gusch: please wait until the 1.0 API is "frozen" [07:54] Wellark: ok - I'll wait then - thx [07:55] gusch: there is no release of 1.0 at the moment so even though if you would compile it yourself you could not commit that to gallery trunk [07:55] *commit the HUD changes [07:58] Mirv: yup [08:00] lool: can we have that under daily release? I thought ken and Mirv were discussing about it? [08:00] that would be better than old-fashion manual upload, not tracking state and so on :) [08:00] didrocks: I dont mind; Mirv, is that ok? [08:01] Mirv: BTW latest changelog entry seems to repeat changelog entry from 0.1.38 where I drop ubuntu-sdk package? [08:04] Mirv: ping [08:09] lool: that's ok, I just thought the daily enablement would be done only after S, plus I'm not sure what further needs to be done (probably jenkins side) [08:09] lool: yes, sorry, it repeats that because for the PPA release that was a new item, merging your dropping [08:09] oSoMoN: pong [08:10] after raring release, regarding the daily [08:11] hi guys [08:12] Mirv: I’ve got a patch for qtwebkit, sending you all the details by e-mail in a minute [08:13] oSoMoN: ok, thanks [08:13] quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper.zip not flashed [08:14] md5 error [08:15] Mirv: sent [08:22] Mirv: note that so far I have tested the patch on desktop only, an armhf build is currently running to test it on a device, but I really don’t expect any difference, I’ll keep you posted anyway [08:22] oSoMoN: ok, keep me posted, I added it in my work tree and after your armhf build finishes I can push another build of my own into qt5-beta-proper, from which it'd be copied to qt5-proper [08:23] excellent! === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [08:29] rsalveti: any luck with the initrd? :P [08:48] mpt: hi! Are you subscribed to the ubuntu-phone ML? [08:49] sergiusens, hmm, todays image did only spit out the rootfs, no android zips === lubuntu is now known as Guest8591 [09:04] mardy, I didn't realize there was one, but I'm subscribed now. [09:04] mpt: ah, I already wrote a message there, so you probably missed it: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg01674.html [09:05] yep [09:09] mpt: I will edit the page to note a couple of requirements that this design brings to Mir [09:09] mardy, Mir? Really? === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [09:29] gusch: what happened with the gallery-app icon? Can't see it in the hud anymore === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:35] didrocks: so it seems fine; would you set it up? [09:40] lool: I think for S then [09:40] lool: so go ahead for R [09:40] (Mirv talked about S) [09:48] hi anyware there? [09:49] please someone can tell me if there will be a version of ubuntu to galaxy tab 10.1 3g? [09:53] if it is not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices you have to port it yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/porting [09:54] (or find someone who does it for you) [09:55] if anyone knows and can give me information my email is:enegreiros@hotmail.com thanks [09:56] hmm, do i have the invisible font in use today ? [10:01] if only ogra_ answered… [10:01] :) [10:01] :) [10:08] ogra_: so the build failed today? [10:08] popey, thats the weird part ... it didnt [10:08] it just didnt spit out the android zips [10:08] ckpringle: ^^ [10:08] but is still considered goog by jenkins [10:09] *good [10:09] but the files are missing at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ [10:09] ogra_: ok so phablet-flash-l is not working [10:09] right [10:09] mpt: I edited the page, please let me know if the technical paragraph is not clear [10:09] ckpringle: yes, you'll need to manually install apps for the moment until a new build is made [10:09] ogra_: isn't reduce the image size one of your goal? Seems jenkins was good at it :) [10:09] hah [10:10] infinte compression! [10:10] ;) [10:10] popey, cdimage automatically pulls from the LastGoodBuild dir from jenkins ... jenkins decides if a build is considered good [10:10] is someone looking into this? [10:10] err lastSuccsessfulBuild that is [10:10] who could ? [10:11] i only know sergiusens has full access [10:12] aha [10:12] ubuntu/platform-api/android/hybris/../..//include/ubuntu/ui/ubuntu_ui_session_service.h:22:30: fatal error: ubuntu/ui/config.h: No such file or directory [10:12] compilation terminated. [10:12] i dont get why it didnt actually stop though [10:15] mardy, looks fine to me. [10:20] mpt: on the design side, you might want to think what happens if the applications need to provide some extra settings for the user (in the desktop, you can now find an "Options" button next to Empathy) [10:25] mardy, that should be in the application UI. Putting app-specific options inside Online Accounts just makes them harder to find. [10:26] (In that Empathy Options panel it says "Go online to edit your personal information". But I am online already, and there's no hint what "personal information" it's talking about.) [10:34] popey, aha, seems to be commit 48 in platform-api .thats at fault [10:35] rsalveti, sergiusens : Hi, can you check changes between compilations of builds again? I have another date where I have a bug [10:37] ogra_: do you know the name of the qtwebkit package? [10:37] smells like mterry added #include "ubuntu/ui/config.h" to the code but forgot a bzr add or so [10:37] since the file isnt there actually [10:37] nik90, sorry, no [10:38] ogra_: np [10:38] tsdgeos: where does HUD get the app icon from? [10:41] aha https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/platform-api/gles/+merge/158128 is the issue ... config.h.in doesnt seem to be processed [10:42] and no mterry :( [10:44] Hello everyone. Sorry my bad English. Can I install IDEs like PyCharm on Ubuntu Touch (when it would be released)? [10:46] gusch: don't remember anymore :D [10:46] pete-woods: do you remember where the hud-service gets the icon from? [10:46] desktop file? [10:46] or the hint in the Hud thing? [10:46] Wellark: ↑↑ ? [10:47] tsdgeos: I thought it was the desktop file [10:48] tsdgeos: I think it grabs a load of random information from there [10:48] tsdgeos: maybe the previous icon is not installed anymore, as now gallery installs it (them) on its own [10:49] gusch: which path? [10:49] gusch: we are using giconloader to find it [10:49] maybe that's the problem? [10:49] tsdgeos: gicon can find it (tested it, and the shell app lens uses it) [10:51] ogra_, Hi, can you check changes between builds? [10:52] tsdgeos: hmmmm - looks like the gallery on the current images does not install the icons [10:52] gusch: that may explain it [10:53] tsdgeos: with the next image, this should work then (released yesterday) [10:53] ok [10:57] gusch, tsdgeos: yes, the icon comes from the desktop-file [10:57] ogra_, I'm here now [10:58] ah, good [10:58] so we dont need to spam mir [10:58] the android build chockes on : [10:58] In file included from ubuntu/platform-api/android/hybris/../default/default_ubuntu_ui.cpp:19:0: [10:58] ubuntu/platform-api/android/hybris/../..//include/ubuntu/ui/ubuntu_ui_session_service.h:22:30: fatal error: ubuntu/ui/config.h: No such file or directory [10:58] compilation terminated. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:02] ogra_, okay, got it: can you adjust your MP such that include/CMakeLists.txt has a line reading: include_directories(${CMAKE_CURRENT_BINARY_DIR}) [11:02] ogra_, no need to write CONFIGURE_FILE then :) [11:02] not at all or just no need to capitalize ? [11:04] tvoss, ^^^ [11:04] just no need to capitalize :) [11:04] k [11:07] can anybody check what changed in compilation of daily builds between March 3rd and March 6th? [11:08] phablet-flash is failing on me [11:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701126/ [11:08] ideas? [11:09] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip seems not to be there [11:09] tvoss, done [11:09] ogra_, ack [11:10] tsdgeos, today's build has some problems, so only manually install from previous builds [11:11] P3T3: it'd be cool if the script that copies thigns around was smart enough not to break phablet-flash if the build fails [11:11] tsdgeos, yeah, its broken ... waiting for the fix above and for sergiusens to trigger a new buuild then [11:12] tsdgeos, sure ;-) [11:12] seems the jenkins check for broken builds doesnt work right, that shouldnt have been marked as successful build [11:13] ogra_: i see [11:13] want me to file a bug somewhere? [11:13] tsdgeos, the script only picks what jenkins considers successful [11:13] no, i'll talk to sergiusens , i guess he needs to check his scripts [11:14] ookidoki [11:14] t [11:14] no need for a bug, wont be forgotten :) [11:14] x [11:21] ogra_, did you check locally that it builds? [11:23] tvoss, nope, let me try to get libhybris -dev onto this chromebook [11:23] ogra_, same problem here [11:28] whats with the flash today? [11:28] broken [11:30] tvoss, building now [11:30] ogra_, great, thank you [11:31] ogra@chromebook:~/branches/platform-api$ dpkg -c ../libplatform-api-headers_0.18.1daily13.04.12ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1_armhf.deb|grep config.h [11:31] -rw-r--r-- root/root 826 2013-04-12 13:29 ./usr/include/ubuntu/ui/config.h [11:31] its there [11:31] but i'm not so sure that the android build actually generates it then ... i cant see cmake being called in the log [11:31] (in the android build log) [11:35] hello guys. does anybody know anything about porting ubuntu touch to htc sensation xe? [11:35] ogra_, argh, getting it now ... is ubuntu/ui/config.h conditionally included or always expected? [11:35] well, the merge from mterry seems to make it always required [11:36] but to get the gles stuff into config.h it needs to be generated [11:36] catch22 [11:37] ogra_, then we need to teach the android build system to generate that header, too [11:37] right, but thats for rsalveti/serguiens ... [11:37] lets see that we get the fix in first [11:39] i rolled cdimage back to yesterdays image for now [11:39] for everyone who has issues with phablet-flash, it should work again [11:40] tsdgeos, RobbyF ^^^ [11:40] jppiiroi1en, ^^ [11:40] ogra_, thanks, pinged sergiusens [11:40] yep, i did that here already [11:40] Hi [11:40] (no need to do it in pprivate :) ) [11:41] ogra_, old habits :) [11:45] working :) [11:46] wait. no new image [11:46] figured the raring would go [11:46] * RobbyF off to work [11:46] no, the new image is the one thats broken, i just removed it for now until someone can lookk into it [11:47] phablet-flash just gets you yesterdays atm [12:06] ogra_: thanks [12:06] pmcgowan, FYI, we had a little jenkins issue today that resulted in it publishing a broken image (only rootfs, no android builds) i rolled back cdimage and disabled the syncing until thats fixed [12:07] ogra_: ack, thanks [12:07] waiting for brazil to get up :) [12:09] muahahahahaha === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:16] sergiusens, hey [12:16] ogra_: hey... let me check [12:16] sergiusens, seems the android builds all failed but jenkins still published [12:17] we added a fix to platform-api ... but the missing config.h is generated by cmake ... do we run that during the build ? [12:17] (i rolled back cdimage to the last working image) [12:17] ogra_: no... [12:17] hmmm, that might be a prob [12:18] ogra_: if it's not in an Android.mk, it won't build [12:18] tvoss, any idea ? ^^ [12:18] ogra_: you'll need to replicate that rule that generates the file into the Android.mk for platform-api [12:19] sergiusens, well, the more important issue is that jenkins considered it a good build [12:19] sergiusens, it's a cmake rule. I have no idea how to run that configure in Android.mk [12:19] even though tehre was nothing built [12:22] ogra_: also, if all these are 0 build probably failed: http://10.97.2.10:8080/view/Phablet/job/ubuntu-touch-image/lastSuccessfulBuild/aggregatedTestReport/api/json [12:22] ogra_: compare that to the previous one: http://10.97.2.10:8080/view/Phablet/job/ubuntu-touch-image/69/aggregatedTestReport/api/json [12:22] sergiusens, ok ... i dont get why it lands in lastSuccessfulBuild though [12:22] ogra_: that said, I'll still fix the script [12:23] ogra_: script needs fixing... [12:23] yeah [12:23] ogra_: just thought I'd mention that there's an easy way to check the test results in the meantime :-) [12:24] heh, if you did, i didnt see it ... you said you would look into it [12:24] thats my last status [12:26] ogra_: no, I didn't... was doing that now ;-) [12:26] phew :) [12:29] tvoss: regarding Android.mk and the config.h, I can look at it [12:29] sergiusens, so what level of fuzziness do you want ? something like "if totalCount - failCount > 10" we'll publish ? [12:30] ogra_: well for now, if totalCount == 0 [12:30] or should we wait until at aleas all tests succeeded once [12:30] ah, k [12:30] ogra_: I'll be fixing the tests today and we can switch it next week [12:30] so publish if any tests ran ... [12:30] k [12:30] ogra_: script is fixed too, so it _should_ abort on any errors [12:30] great [12:31] if you fire off a new build (and it uscceeds) i can switch the auto sync back on [12:31] *succeeds [12:31] ogra_: let me fire up a build, if nothing changed, it should fail [12:32] ogra_: while that runs, I'll be fixing the platform-api [12:32] well, platform-api changed ... but if the file isnt generated it will indeed still fail [12:32] building the package does the right thing here [12:32] ogra_: because it calls cmake :-) [12:32] yep === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:43] sergiusens, can you do something to me? [12:44] P3T3: what exactly? I'm fixing the build right now [12:44] ok, check for tests is added to the sync script [12:44] autosyncing switched back on [12:45] ogra_: and the build also failed ;-) [12:45] as expected :) [12:45] ogra_: but it didn't fail for some reason.... hmmm [12:46] oh, you measn it landed in lastSuccessfulBuild again ? [12:46] sigh, if the VPN wouldnt be so slow [12:47] ogra_: yeah, the build failed, and exited but jenkins marked as success... [12:47] yeah [12:48] ogra_: ok, found the issue... fixed [12:48] yay [12:48] * sergiusens thinks it's too early for this [12:49] well, at least i dont get the wrong stuff from jenkins :) [12:49] i understand that adding cmake might not be easy [12:51] ogra_: well, depends on how it's generated... most likely I'll need to replicate === spanner3003-bed is now known as spanner3003 [12:54] sergiusens, I need diffs between builds March 3rd to March 6th [12:55] hello! Can you tell me if new Ubuntu 13.04 works in my tablet Memup SlidePadNG808DC, Dual Core 1,5GHz and 1GB RAM [12:56] LUZifer_, no x86 support yet [12:57] rsalveti, does the contained Ubuntu see the same device nodes in /dev as Android? [12:57] i think it is bind mounted === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [12:57] rsalveti, I say the dev/alog renaming to avoid the syslogd conflict [12:57] but you dont have udev [12:58] LUZifer_,oops, ignore that i see it isnt x86 ... if the device is not on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices you will need to port it yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [12:59] ok, the sistem in my tablet is Android 4.1.1, will it be possible to upgrade to Ubuntu, in the future? [12:59] not if nobody portss it to that device [13:01] and what tablet is that... [13:01] oh right [13:01] http://ubuntuonair.com/ -> Ubuntu Development: Presentation about the work on image-based updates for Ubuntu touch [13:01] starting just now [13:01] Namidairo, google tells you :) [13:01] at #ubuntu-on-air [13:01] the slidepadmemupgenericshenanigan [13:02] way to mute yourself [13:02] * Namidairo runs away === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [13:05] RobbyF: utc-3 :-) [13:12] janimo: yeah, it's bind mounted still [13:12] that's why we needed the dev/log rename at the android side === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [13:15] rsalveti, HI, can you check what changed between builds March 3rd and March 6th [13:15] P3T3: sure [13:15] I understood that Ubuntu for a specific tablet will only exist if someone creates it especially for the device, is it? [13:16] still no gerrit instance? [13:16] remember to do certificate pinning [13:17] P3T3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701391/ [13:18] that's the only changes between 3dr and 6th [13:18] still no gerrit instance? [13:18] Namidairo: not yet [13:18] hopefully soon [13:21] rsalveti, thanks! I have working image #10 from Mar 3d and non working #13 from Mar 6th [13:23] P3T3: right, it'd probably work if you match hybris and platform-api at the android side (based on the versions used by ubuntu) [13:24] QUESTION: Is there an overview or comparison of various OEMs, carriers and Google's way of delivering system image updates? Besides update.zip (which is not universally used either) is everyone doing their own server-side and phone-side setup? [13:24] rsalveti, this is odd, my hybris and api are newest I can have but still no luck [13:24] Who test Ubuntu touch on TF101 ? [13:25] janimo: maybe for #ubuntu-on-air? :-) [13:25] rsalveti, oh, indeed :) [13:25] 4 channels open and I am already confused, thanks :) [13:25] :-) [13:26] * Namidairo looks at his hexchat side panel [13:27] 18 channels across 6 networks [13:27] :S [13:30] tvoss: rsalveti https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/platform-api/config_h/+merge/158613 [13:30] ogra_: build is now properly failing as it should [13:31] rsalveti, will bzr pull sync all needed files? I am looking inside ubuntu dirs and I can see all dates are Feb 28th [13:31] good [13:31] P3T3: bzr pull will pull as long as there are no conflicts [13:32] will pull cleanly that is [13:32] sergiusens, funny whitespace change :) [13:32] ogra_: in the MR? dang [13:32] (looks good to me) [13:32] line 6 ... [13:32] ignore it [13:32] ogra_: going to remove it [13:33] ogra_: easy to remove, I'll just do it [13:34] yeah, as you like [13:34] ogra_: done [13:34] sergiusens, bzr pull in directory ubuntu/hybris says No revisions or tags to pull. but all files have date Feb 28th [13:35] ogra_: I set USE_GLES to one even though debian/rules only set it for armhf and this is armel :-) [13:35] P3T3: do bzr pull lp:phablet-extras/libhybris [13:35] P3T3: what does bzr revno say? [13:37] sergiusens, shouldnt matter i guess [13:38] we want GLES enabled in any case [13:38] sergiusens, still same :-( = No revisions or tags to pull. [13:38] in these builds at least [13:38] P3T3: what revno are you on? [13:38] ogra_: yeah, I was just trolling :-D [13:38] hehe [13:38] * ogra_ forgot it is friday [13:39] sergiusens, 123 in hybris and 49 in api [13:39] QUESTION: Can't we just use whatever carriers already use for Android ROMs without having them make something compatible with whatever our implementation for the UBuntu servers is? [13:39] P3T3: you have the right versions.. [13:39] I know [13:40] but all files are old [13:40] * janimo keeps seeing at least some of the scenarios as an Android ROM update + an app update [13:40] janimo, we'll see ... you could ask in the right channel though :) [13:40] P3T3: and you can check them in http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-ubuntu_stamp [13:40] ogra_, may I suck. I'll close this tab [13:40] dont leave us ! [13:40] s/may/man/ [13:40] ogra_: janimo where and what is going on? [13:41] sergiusens, I know about version numbers in stamp [13:41] sergiusens, #ubuntu-on-air [13:41] sergiusens, image updates [13:41] sergiusens, discussion about OTA updates [13:41] janimo: interesting! I should join [13:42] you should also watch the stream :) [13:42] (ubuntuonair.com) [13:45] ogra_: on it now [13:46] ogra_: using my phone as I can't from the chrome book :-/ [13:46] heh, same here [13:47] which is funny, i usually never have issues with youtube [13:48] it feels better though, I can toss the phone to a side and keep on using this _book_ :-) [13:50] sergiusens, i deleted whole dir hybris, then initialised and pulled again. Now I have it back with revno 123 [13:51] sergiusens, which command to pull api dir? [13:51] P3T3: bzr branch lp:platform-api [13:57] popey: I submitted packaging fixes to all the core apps yesterday, and better icons for clock, calculator, calendar, weather, facebook and youtube [13:57] clock has already merged it, and their new package built [13:58] looks like rssreader has merged the changes too [13:59] mhall119: awesome [13:59] I'm hoping the new clock icon gets into the next touch image [14:00] popey: if you could encourage the others to land these branches, we will be ready to start on the project renaming [14:01] ok [14:01] thanks === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones === rsalveti is now known as Rsalveti_ === Rsalveti_ is now known as rsalveti [14:06] hm, the other nick is already grouped [14:08] rsalveti, can you approve sergiusens' fix in https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/platform-api/config_h/+merge/158613 so we can get a workign image ? [14:08] sure, lemmelook === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away [14:19] ogra_: sergiusens: tested and approved [14:19] once merged we can trigger a new job [14:19] \o/ [14:20] rsalveti: great === netcurli_ is now known as netcurli [14:26] hey how is dev going [14:26] great [14:26] * jun wants touch on nexus 4 [14:27] your wish can be fulfilled [14:27] there are images [14:27] :】 [14:28] i tried the images but its not really usable now [14:29] they will be in october [14:29] there is still a lot to do [14:29] ah october... thats still a long time away [14:29] i noticed hehe [14:29] depends how you look at it :) [14:30] i would say time is short :) [14:30] to build an os from scratch its quick [14:30] being a developer having to do it its short :) [14:30] for impatient enthusiasts its long [14:31] but its all open, you are free to help out indeed ;) [14:31] i wish i was gifted enougj [14:31] h === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [14:36] Im pretty proficient at some "hello world" in java and c++, what are my chances of getting the source and actually doing some good? :) [14:37] TheGorgotron: source of what? [14:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview has all the userspace trees ... pahblet.ubuntu.com has the android layer [14:37] bah [14:38] phablet.ubuntu.com [14:38] Source code. I was joking. [14:38] what you dont find there is from the normal ubuntu archive [14:38] QML is so easy, you might actually be able to do some good with just "Hello World" level knowledge [14:40] I've only taken two intro so far but ild like to get better. Gone as far as multi dimensional arrays. [14:42]