[00:33] <jrwren> evening.
[00:33] <jrwren> i actually had good luck with packaging with git-buildpackage. yay debian/ubuntu
[00:55] <rick_h_> cool
[11:15] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:20] <rick_h_> morning
[11:44] <rick_h_> ok, maybe driving to Oakland isn't such a bad plan... http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-04-12/hacking-an-airplane-with-only-an-android-phone
[11:54] <brousch> I am so tired today
[12:03] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, that one really got some attention
[13:07] <rick_h_> snap-l: so time to figure out how to hide my android devices from security
[13:16] <snap-l> Good luck with that. :)
[13:16] <snap-l> Frankly, flying is overrated
[13:16] <snap-l> go by boat.
[13:17] <snap-l> also, <3 it when I have to fix code that I never wanted to touch in the first place.
[13:17] <snap-l> It's broken in the other system too, but because it's all new, it needs to not be broken
[13:18] <snap-l> And it's broken because it was never designed to never have data
[13:18] <snap-l> so the moment this releases, my fixes will be moot
[13:18] <snap-l> And I was so looking forward to today.
[13:18] <snap-l> me and my big mouth
[13:19] <snap-l> yes, I'm a whiny bitch.
[14:02] <snap-l> so, should I take the App.net account that Ars is offering? :)
[14:17] <nullspace> hello all
[14:17] <rick_h_> party
[14:21] <snap-l> Howdy.
[14:38] <ColonelPanic001> 'morning
[14:43] <rick_h_> yay it arrived! http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/8643031022/ 5mo and 10 days from order to delivery
[14:46] <snap-l> Looks rather plane.
[14:46] <snap-l> ;)
[14:46] <rick_h_> hehe
[14:56] <brousch> This Synology NAS is slick
[14:57] <rick_h_> <3 mine
[14:59] <brousch> I put 4 Samsung 840 Pro 512GB SSDs in it
[14:59] <rick_h_> nice!
[14:59] <rick_h_> I just have the low end dual one with 2-2TB disks in it
[15:00] <brousch> I might have to get another one for our slow storage. This has such a nice interface
[15:26] <jrwren> O_O
[15:26] <jrwren> that is a total waste of a NAS
[15:26] <jrwren> why the hell would you put SSD into it when you are using it over 1Gigabit ?
[15:26] <jrwren> 4 rusty disks can max out 1gigabit, no problem.
[15:26] <brousch> It has an esata port
[15:27] <jrwren> ah, that is a good reason.
[15:27] <brousch> Also usb3
[15:27] <jrwren> usb3 is still slower than gigabit, isn't it?
[15:27] <brousch> Really a nice, flexible device
[15:28] <jrwren> oh, 5gigabit.
[15:28] <jrwren> nice.
[15:29] <brousch> It came with 2 cat5e cables, but no esata, so I have to run out and get one
[15:30] <brousch> But at least I could set it up over the network
[15:33] <jrwren> i don't think i've ever seen an esata cable.
[15:51] <UnFixed> i think usb3 gets closer to 3Gb/s
[15:51] <UnFixed> but yes, faster than gigabit
[15:51] <rick_h_> heh, I've got a pair of external esata drive carriers. One 2.5 and one 3.5
[15:51] <rick_h_> <3
[15:52] <rick_h_> best full system backup/recovery every done.
[15:58] <brousch> Is an esata cable just a regular sata cable?
[15:59] <rick_h_> no
[15:59] <rick_h_> well, basically
[15:59] <greg-g> yeah, basically
[15:59] <brousch> it has no little notch
[15:59] <rick_h_> I was htinking that the external one was keyed a bit or something
[16:00] <rick_h_> but I'd have to go pull it out and compare atm
[16:00] <brousch> http://www.amazon.com/SATA-to-eSATA-Cable/dp/B003ENM5IA
[16:00] <brousch> Well I just realized my server has no esata port, so I need a little more than a cable
[16:01] <rick_h_> heh
[16:01] <rick_h_> yea, time to get a new mobo! new computer!
[16:02] <rick_h_> or a esata card if you want to go the little route
[16:02] <brousch> Forgot how old that thing is
[16:45] <jrwren> i thought the external one was powered.
[17:59] <brousch> WTF nobody has esata cards in stock
[18:00] <brousch> Closest computer shop had no cards and no esata cables. Best Buy had a cable, but no cards. Farther shop had nothing
[18:29] <snap-l> eSATA never really caught on, that's why it's hard to find
[18:29] <snap-l> You can trip on USB cables and cards all day long though
[18:29] <brousch> right
[18:30] <jrwren> why do you need a card? just plug it into a sata port.
[18:30] <snap-l> eSATA is not the same
[18:30] <jrwren> afaik it is exactly teh same, just different pinout.
[18:30] <jrwren> has power
[18:30] <snap-l> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thecus-brings-sata-external-storage,1245-2.html
[18:30] <brousch> I don't even see a hold adequate for running the cable into the server case
[18:31] <brousch> a hole
[18:31] <snap-l> Pinouts are the same, but they purposely made different connectors
[18:31] <jrwren> cut the connector to fit.
[18:32] <snap-l> jrwren: You'd have to cut the connector on the drive
[18:32] <brousch> Or I can delay a few days and order a proper setup from The Internets
[18:32] <snap-l> see that notch?
[18:34] <brousch> OH, both places had a bunch of firewire cards and cables. Who the hell uses firewire?!
[18:34] <snap-l> Macintosh
[18:34] <snap-l> DV cameras
[18:34] <snap-l> pro studios
[18:35] <brousch> Not since like 2006
[18:35] <snap-l> You'd be surprised
[18:35] <brousch> I wonder if Radioshack is a worth a try
[18:35] <brousch> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200111
[18:35] <brousch> This is all I frickin need
[18:35] <snap-l> Mac-heads swear by their firewire. it wasn't until 2010 that it stopped being as popular
[18:36] <snap-l> brousch: Are you kidding?
[18:36] <snap-l> Radio Shack barely has anything anymore other than annoying salespeople
[18:36] <brousch> Yeah, but it's on the way home
[18:36] <snap-l> I mean, it might be worth a shot, but gird your loins for the inevitable "who is your cellphone provider" question
[18:37] <snap-l> and "hey, we have batteries"
[18:37]  * snap-l just came up with a rude retort for the second one
[18:39] <jrwren> i've got a laptop with a failing internal drive, and an external esata connector. This conversation has inspired me to try that esata direct to an external drive
[18:40] <snap-l> I'll be interested to hear your successes and failures
[18:41] <jrwren> googel esata hacks
[18:43] <snap-l> the ones I'm seeing are all adding a hardware port to a machine
[18:43] <jrwren> me too :(
[18:44] <snap-l> brousch: Also, Rat Shack has esata, but not in stores acc to their site
[18:45] <snap-l> brousch: road trip to Microcenter? ;)
[18:46] <jrwren> http://metku.net/index.html?path=mods/baby-sata/index_eng
[18:46] <jrwren> lol
[18:47] <snap-l> didn't load here
[18:48] <snap-l> jrwren: See? :)
[18:48] <jrwren> yup
[18:51] <ColonelPanic001> heh, rat shack
[18:51] <ColonelPanic001> in ham radio circles, I've heard the term "cellphone hut" used a lot.
[19:04] <jrwren> juju kinda works around debconf afaict. I'm only moderately surprised.
[19:06] <brousch> I give up. Ordering from Newegg and I'll do it next week
[19:07] <snap-l> brousch: That's the spirit
[19:14] <brousch> Too tired
[19:15] <jrwren> ah, no it doesnt, it works with debconf. just took me a while to find that part.
[23:08] <jcastro> rick_h_: I might be going a bit overboard ... http://imgur.com/A5LZV9T
[23:08] <greg-g> what the ef?
[23:08] <greg-g> http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130404/01213022571/thomas-cooley-law-schools-reputation-is-dumps-so-its-thinking-about-changing-its-name.shtml
[23:09] <greg-g> jcastro: you have a problem
[23:09] <rick_h_> jcastro: :P hah, I'm still on one razor with one set of blades.
[23:09] <rick_h_> jcastro: if you get the good stuff to start no need for 20 of them
[23:10] <rick_h_> oh wait, that's your pile?
[23:10] <jcastro> I don't collect crap, that is the good stuff, lol
[23:10] <rick_h_> sorry, just fixing a broken test and read that as greg saying I had a problem
[23:10] <jcastro> yeah
[23:10] <rick_h_> dude, 4 diff razors? and diff kinds of blades?
[23:10] <jcastro> stay classy Cooley law
[23:11] <rick_h_> 3 more and one for each day of the week. Over half way there
[23:11] <jcastro> yeah I like to experiment
[23:11] <jcastro> the short Merkur HD is my travel razor, that's why it's so stubby
[23:11] <rick_h_> yea, that's one thing I need but didn't think the TSA would let me take one
[23:11] <rick_h_> so I do portable razors for sprints
[23:11] <jcastro> the TTO's are the daily shavers, and the one in the box I found today at an antique shop
[23:11] <jcastro> the 4th long handle one in the middle is Jill's
[23:11] <jcastro> I am convincing her this is awesome
[23:12] <rick_h_> lol
[23:12] <rick_h_> you go
[23:12] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/wicked_edge/comments/1c8jrt/found_a_cool_vintage_gillette_at_an_antique_store/
[23:12] <greg-g> jcastro: also, stay classy western michigan university
[23:12] <jcastro> I need to find a kickass wood stand for this stuff
[23:12] <jcastro> greg-g: there's a cooley law @ MSU too
[23:12] <jcastro> it's like, way to tarnish the brand guys ...
[23:13] <jcastro> rick_h_: the one TTO is my birth year (1975) so I had to have it
[23:13] <rick_h_> jcastro: that's cool
[23:13] <jcastro> and the other one is a Gillette Fat Boy which is like, fucking the awesomest razor ever made
[23:13] <jcastro> 1961.
[23:14] <jcastro> you can rotate the knob and adjust the angle-of-attack on the blade, etc.
[23:14] <rick_h_> ok, time for dinner break before...bbiab