[05:35] o/ mornings [06:12] morning [06:13] hi aprez welcome to ubuntu-za [06:13] morning all [06:45] morning Kilos [06:45] hi Squirm [06:45] you get to sleep in this morning? [06:46] yeah a bit [06:50] morning all [06:50] hi Superhuman hows things [06:51] good morning all [06:51] hi magespawn [06:51] * Squirm yawns [06:51] Friday :) [06:51] hey hey its friday [06:51] good good [06:52] damn, another Friday...I dislike Fridays...Mondays however are awesome! [06:52] hahaha [06:52] so this guy comes into the shop today looking for cable for his projector, only takes RCA, so i now need to find a vga to rca converter [06:53] this thing was left behind when they all got on the ark [06:53] Mondays are awesome, because all my enemies are miserable! [06:53] lol @Superhuman [06:53] aw , you got enemies Superhuman [06:53] already [06:54] lol magespawn [06:55] Kilos: "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill [06:55] lol [06:56] indeed, ut means that you taken a stand on something and did not budge [06:58] s/ut/it [06:59] enemies(colleagues) keep you incheck, they are sometimes your best motivators, and biggest fans. [07:02] morning peeps [07:02] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:02] morning [07:03] this is the projector http://www.google.co.za/imgres?imgurl=http://party-verleih-koeln.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Sanyo-PLC-200-P-Video-Beamer.jpg&imgrefurl=http://party-verleih-koeln.de/product/sanyo-plc-200-video-beamer-grossbildprojektor/sanyo-plc-200-p-video-beamer/&h=480&w=640&sz=52&tbnid=Dc_bv-kdbzRRWM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=117&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsanyo%2BPLC-200p%2Bpictures%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=sanyo+PLC- [07:03] 200p+pictures&usg=__CFiBkwPyCOhcEoCwhiglvNT93zY=&docid=ah4_N1zgx4LPSM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cLFnUfXEGI2ChQfU2YCwDA&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAQ&dur=2306 [07:04] sorry about the link [07:04] whew magespawn use maaz to shorten that kinda link [07:04] did not look to see how long it was [07:04] it comes on xchat as 2 posts so can use it anyway [07:05] hold on [07:05] cannot [07:05] http://is.gd/ZVOrVJ [07:06] much better hey [07:06] Kilos: how do I tell Maaz to tinyurl it? [07:07] indeed [07:07] just maaz shorten [07:07] magespawn, give that full link to QA lets she if she also splits it to 2 posts [07:08] private chat then "Maaz shorten 'link to be shortened'" without the quotes [07:08] that doesn't really help if the URL is too long to fit in a single message :P [07:09] Kilos this is what QA gave me http://is.gd/ZVOrVJ [07:09] if you pm or query maaz then he accepts whatever you post ThatGraemeGuy [07:09] identical [07:10] * Superhuman still prefers goo.gl for urls shortening, since I can track views/stats on the url in my google account [07:10] no man i meant post the link in my channel, sorry [07:10] okay [07:10] i get kinda mixed up at times [07:10] no worries [07:11] oh its an irc thing [07:11] freenode thing [07:11] Kilos, that may be, but if the URL is too long, it's too long, whether its a privmsg or not [07:12] think its 512 chars IIRC [07:12] only allows 6 lines at a time [07:12] It avoids flooding in a channel [07:12] how on earth is a url that long? [07:12] well at least the ibid bots shorten it ok [07:12] IRC used to be like wild west before that restriction came in [07:13] yeah Superhuman they been working on upgrades to fix flooding etc [07:13] tonberryE352: I know, right? AFAIK, the RFC calls for a max length of 256 chars for all urls...naturally google doesn't listen. [07:13] had many ddos attacks too [07:14] havent had serious net splits for a while now [07:15] hi tonberryE352 [07:15] In the old days (giving age away) with dialup, you could hang/flood a connection on irc with just 10 lines of text. Thus they capped one message to less than 10 lines [07:15] hi kilos [07:16] uhm, Superhuman where do you see that 256-char limit? [07:16] afaik its not specifically limited, but there's a de facto limit somewhere around 2,000 chars [07:19] can't seem to find it in the rfc. might be something to do with SEO limits then...my bad [07:20] * Superhuman just knows, long url = bad web development [07:21] the RFC says URLS should be no longer than 8000 chars, but Apache cuts it off at 4000 [07:21] but that one was really exceptionally long [07:22] magespawn, if you got playtime see if imageshack or one one the other sites do a better job than google [07:23] just for interests sake that is [07:23] that was from a google search not an upload [07:23] because maaz fixes it quite well [07:23] i have seen google embed thumbnails in urls [07:23] ah [07:23] once pasted one of those in irc by mistake, server did not like me [07:23] lol [07:24] http://party-verleih-koeln.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Sanyo-PLC-200-P-Video-Beamer.jpg [07:24] that is the original link [07:24] page [07:25] http://slexy.org/view/s20OPHDJ0t [07:25] RFC does not impose a limit [07:25] http://www.boutell.com/newfaq/misc/urllength.html [07:26] IE has a limit of 2,083 chars, so that's your de facto limit due to market share [07:26] interestingly, IIS' limit is 16,384 chars, despite the fact that IE would reject that length [07:26] well done Microsoft [07:27] ohi superfly [07:29] morning superfly [07:29] hi Kilos, magespawn [07:29] ThatGraemeGuy: did you find your problem [07:29] watch the pro complain about long scroll back [07:29] ? [07:29] oh ya the server prob? [07:29] when he eventually gets here [07:30] he is most likely lurking [07:30] i haven't looked at it yet, it isn't terribly urgent [07:30] our dns servers are pretty much never down, so we just need to patch them after hours until i figure it out [07:32] does anyone know if e-tolling is on? i thought they were already going ahead with that. [07:33] where? [07:35] http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/cape-town-tolls-different-says-sanral-1.1499070#.UWe5AWYqskc [07:35] Gauteng starting in 2 months, CT still being opposed by City of Cape Town [07:35] and they want to put toll plazas in CT apparently [07:35] ew [07:47] looks like the trade unions are getting involved in gauteng [08:00] hi Jabberwocky psyatw Vince-0 [08:01] Haai [08:01] always quick on the draw there Kilos [08:01] only when im here [08:01] hehe [08:01] hi Kilos [08:01] hi Vince-0 [08:06] just got a pentium 3 up and running with DSL, was getting some horrible colours, so i put in an old graphics card, and hey presto everything works [08:06] so win 98 that was on there [08:06] much^ [08:07] that should read 'so much for win 98 that was on there' [08:07] hello magespawn [08:07] hey psyatw [08:07] hey Vince-0 [08:08] them p3's actually went wel with 98 [08:08] i think this one has problem on the hard drive [08:09] whats it doing? [08:10] i actually started with ubuntu on a p3 [08:10] just does not boot, disk boot failure please insert boot disk and press enter to continue [08:11] just boot from cd and do fdisk /mby then reinstall [08:11] fix /mbr [08:11] next two things to check. the add on network card and see if the bios support usb boot [08:11] it wont i think [08:12] but went up to 10.10 on the p3 [08:12] probable not [08:13] usbs you had to add in a card and install the drivers for winsucks [08:13] but ubuntu saw it straight off [08:13] indeed but if the bios has not got usb boot support then it is no go anyway [08:14] dsl sees the usb ports [08:15] no but it can then see a usb mouse [08:15] hehe [08:15] ubuntu didnt like the old mouse [08:15] what you wanna do with a p3 [08:16] server [08:19] maybe [08:19] or something for the kids [08:20] ah [08:21] looks like it will run ubuntu server without too much sweat [08:21] i spent many months with red alert on a p3 and 98 [08:21] yeah server will work well [09:24] good morning [09:24] is it Friday yet? [09:24] indeed, good morning [09:24] morning inetpro [09:25] Kilos: ai! [09:25] jy praat te veel nonsens [09:25] ai! me again [09:25] Kilos: hoe verwag jy moet ek alles lees? [09:25] rofl [09:26] hi inetpro [09:26] good morning [09:26] met moeite [09:26] psyatw: hi [09:26] Kilos: the p3 has a 20gig drive and it looks okay [09:26] magespawn, told you [09:26] hah lol [09:26] ThatGraemeGuy: you posted some interesting limits there, thanks [09:27] inetpro: you getting predictable [09:27] :) [09:27] * inetpro always thought there was a limit of 256 characters [09:27] but recently google has really gone overboard [09:27] magespawn, i still dunno what a server actually must do but if 20g is big enough then yay [09:28] oh my he actually thought!! [09:28] Kilos: eish! [09:28] musta hurt some [09:28] some times [09:28] easily, requirement is 1gig [09:28] lol skuus man [09:29] no magespawn i mean whether it needs space to actually do what it is supposed to [09:29] that depends on what you want/need [09:29] thats what i dunno [09:30] like is it sposed to store stuff for later use etc [09:30] well for me i will use it as a file server, dhcp and dns for my home network [09:30] i will use my external drives for the actual storage [09:31] ah [09:31] then the kids can play on the xp machine where all the games are [09:31] ya thats better [09:32] ians stupid pc has started rebooting on its own whenever i try make it do something [09:33] so its more than the psu [09:33] sigh [09:33] it has new ddr2 ram so methinks that leaves cpu and bios right? [09:34] or something on the board [09:34] oh you mean imbedded stuff [09:34] unlikely bios, as it does pretty much nothing after the boot process starts [09:34] maybe cpu overheating? [09:35] it reboots before it has time to get hot even [09:35] maybe i must try them temp tools [09:37] does it do it if you are in the bios? [09:38] a coupla times when trying to do all the settings in the bios it did restart on its own yes [09:38] struggled to get to saving boot prefs etc [09:39] did you flash it? [09:40] nope. cant fit flash and update stuff onna floppy and not sure of how to use flashrom in ubuntu properly [09:40] has a terrible man page [09:41] i installed kde here and then took the drive there and it boots fine [09:41] are 2.8m floppies bought like that or do you format it like that some other way [09:46] lets hear what the twits say i did wrong today [09:46] AFAIK you can format them to change the file structure but not the density, but that has been long ago [09:47] * Squirm yawns [09:47] in xp you can compress a 1.4m floppy but you need the 98 bootable thing to do bios [09:47] ai! Squirm tired again [09:47] still [09:47] still [09:48] my boss is out [09:48] maybe I should go and take a nap [09:48] :P [09:51] ai! [09:52] twits=tweet peeps [09:52] normally the pro says you got it wrong [09:53] Squirm: not enough sleep? [09:53] Maaz, announce Monthly meeting here on monday evening at 19.30 guys [09:53] Hear ye, hear ye! Monthly meeting here on monday evening at 19.30 guys [09:54] Maaz: tell Maaz hello [09:54] Squirm: I can't deliver messages to myself [09:54] :/ [09:54] wonder if he can do a announcement later in tha day say at 18:00 [09:55] Maaz: help [09:55] Squirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [09:55] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [09:55] Maaz: help announce [09:55] Squirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [09:55] Maaz: help me with announce [09:55] Squirm: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [09:55] Maaz: what can you do [09:55] Squirm: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [09:55] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [09:56] lol [09:57] magespawn: I'm always tired :P [09:57] though I do tend to go to sleep a little later than I should [09:59] not good to be always tired, trying to do too much in your day? [10:00] in his nights maybe [10:00] days are fine he sits and yawns [10:05] what he said :P [10:05] you have to have fun sometime [10:06] lol [10:14] Kilos: thanks for the reminder [10:14] yw inetpro , was it right this time [10:15] Kilos: I think so [10:15] oh yes, and maia even posted an agenda item [10:15] w00t [10:16] good girl [10:16] Ubuntu Diversity postcards ‒ maiatoday @ Tue, 09 April 2013 09:24 [10:16] good thing, now we know she will be there [10:16] :-) [10:17] yay [10:17] Kilos: so is the monkey ready as the chair? [10:17] he will reply anytime [10:18] i think he has everything in order [10:18] unless his 3g crashes [10:20] Kilos: wow, you have 44 followers already [10:20] not me man [10:21] us [10:33] ai! [10:33] got my washing on the line and now it rains [10:45] no more rain! [10:50] we only get rain when it can upset something you are doing that dont need rain [10:52] great [10:52] Incredible Connection has started taking pre-orders for the Samsung Galaxy S4 through its website which it says will be available from 27 April 2013, and is asking R8,499 for the device without a contract. [10:52] ouch [10:53] 8 gees for a fone [10:53] at least we now have an idea of the price [10:53] Kilos: that is one good phone! [10:53] the best of the best [10:54] sjoe [10:55] can build up an 17 for that price [10:55] or i5 at least with lotsa ram [11:01] hello [11:02] i had a brilliant idea === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [11:02] tell [11:02] hi Trix[a]r_za [11:02] how bout we setup an ubuntu campout? [11:02] we can use my family ranch [11:03] where are you aprez [11:06] southenn cape [11:06] Plettenberg Bay [11:06] we have over 1300ha spread out across the hills above the garden route costline [11:07] beautiful [11:07] not many ubuntu peeps near there though i think [11:07] :/ [11:07] but hang here and you never know [11:08] you might also advertise it in our mailing lists [11:08] have you joined our list [11:09] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [11:09] many more peeps use the lists than irc [11:09] im joining now [11:10] somebody was also suggesting something like that [11:12] yeah last meeting if i remember right [11:13] http://imgur.com/a/RKovg#0 [11:13] some pics from our ranch [11:14] * Squirm hunts down aprez and steals his PC [11:14] lol [11:18] my pc is no good [11:19] hi HawkiesZA [11:19] aprez, how come you havent joined us here before? [11:21] :-) HawkiesZA [11:21] Howdy ya'll [11:25] wbb going to kde [11:35] youch tenet network totally saturated on their dr capacity [11:39] yoh [12:07] aprez: you say that's near Plett? [12:25] oh my you frightened him superfly [12:45] ok, call me crazy but I think I should take that note ii [12:45] note II as well [12:46] * inetpro has two hours to make a final decision [12:49] inetpro: take the note 2 [12:51] Hi guys can anyone connect to myadsl.co.za or http://www.hetzner.co.za/ [12:51] Maaz: is www.hetzner.co.za down? [12:51] ok hetzner is on again, but myadsl.co.za? [12:52] inetpro: No, it's just you [12:52] hi ludo [12:52] me [12:52] Hi Kilos [12:55] ludo: test accessibility to a site via a translator service [12:55] like http://translate.google.com/ [12:55] put the url in there and translate to another language [12:55] hetzner not working for me [12:56] and neither is myadsl [12:57] 12/04 13:35:09 youch tenet network totally saturated on their dr capacity [12:57] Symmetria: what is wrong with the interwebs? [12:57] wonder what the packet loss is at the moment... [12:58] iets is major fout! [12:58] MyBroadband down due to DNS problems. Engineers attending. [12:59] superfly: yep I also notice DNS errors [13:00] works for me [13:01] 2% loss give or take [13:01] I've had worse [13:02] http://mybroadband.co.za/ working now [13:02] and so is http://www.hetzner.co.za/ [13:03] uh... [13:03] not anymore [13:03] both working for me [13:03] mweb [13:04] ok, let me rather stay out of it and let the relevant people look into it [13:04] * inetpro has no need for those sites right now [13:05] but clearly something is not lekker [13:05] http://9gag.com/gag/7057247 Minecraft structures [13:29] http://9gag.com/gag/7068485?ref=popular check out the suspended baby cage [13:32] yeah, I saw that [13:33] that is what people came up wtih before lawsuits [13:34] for that apartment where you just have to have that extra space [14:11] hi Cantide [14:11] hello '-' [14:12] hmm [14:12] what to do now >.< [14:13] i have been pimping my CV lately [14:16] now hope someone bites [14:17] well, i haven't applied for anything yet [14:17] graduation is still about 6 weeks away [14:17] maybe put it online somewhere [14:17] and i need the certificate for the jobs i want [14:17] what did you study? [14:17] a general BA with majors in English and linguistics [14:18] ahh right that is why the classic reading [14:19] yup [14:19] was planning to move to Korea [14:19] but right now things aren't looking too hot [14:19] maybe not such a good idea for now [14:19] so just waiting for graduation while i prepare some things [14:19] and i will decide then [14:20] yeah, i still think North Korea is all bark and no bite [14:20] why Korea? [14:20] that's a very long story [14:20] ahh okay [14:20] :p [14:20] magespawn: cause Cantide thought the Korean chicks were hot... but no longer [14:20] 안녕하세요 '-' [14:20] superfly, hahaha [14:20] I think it had something to do with Gangnam Style [14:20] naah :p [14:21] i got involved with Koreans around 2006 [14:22] it is not a usual place for south africans to think of moving to [14:22] hmm [14:22] assuming you are south african [14:22] i think there are quite a few South Africans there [14:22] I am :p [14:22] it's either there or Japan [14:23] i thought most expats from here went to place like oz [14:24] ah [14:24] fair enough [14:24] there are a lot more South Africans in the UK and Australasia [14:24] but Korea and Japan offer good jobs, high salaries and all sorts of other perks [14:24] and they're not western countries [14:25] culturally it would be a slight change [14:25] hometime [14:25] i suppose so [14:25] but for me it won't be tough [14:25] something some people struggle with [14:25] i have plenty of friends there, can read and write the language, have eaten the food for several years [14:26] ex girlfriend was Korean >_> [14:26] ahh [14:26] <_< [14:27] so yeah, this tension at the moment doesn't deter me much [14:27] but i think it's a good idea to wait a few months [14:27] i have to wait for graduation anyway [14:27]