[01:51] <holstein> cinammon is nice
[02:32] <zequence> Haven't tried it, but seems to be very close to how gnome-shell works, technically. Just that it has the Windows layout of panel, manu and status area
[02:32] <zequence> And no dash
[03:50] <holstein> zequence: you like gnome shell, right?
[04:13] <ornj> How do I help out with translation?
[04:17] <holstein> !contribute
[04:18] <holstein> ornj: pretty much just hang here and ask :)
[04:18] <ornj> HI I WANNA MAKE THE MOAR SPANISH PLS
[04:18]  * ornj hangs
[04:19] <ornj> tx, holstein
[04:20] <ornj> Will this, though, affect Ubuntu Studio as well? Or just the main K/X/Ubuntu distributions?
[04:22] <holstein> ornj: ubuntustudio is "main" and "official" as well
[04:23] <holstein> we would have some specific documentation though
[04:23] <ornj> I guess I'm seeing untranslated stuff that seems to be Ubuntu Studio-specific, so that's what I wanted to work on translating.
[04:24] <holstein> yup.. the other distros wont need that stuff, typically, so they wouldnt see it to translate it
[04:24] <ornj> i.e. that seems to be translated in Xubuntu
[04:24] <holstein> ornj: we can use whatever from xubuntu pretty much
[04:27] <ornj> Like "Audio Production," though, in the Xfce panel menu, is not.
[10:28] <smartboyhw> zequence, len-1304 uh oh http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2134564
[10:28] <smartboyhw> We have a nouveau problem.
[13:46] <len-1304> smartboyhw, I don't know where to go with that. I haven't had that problem here. Lots of people want to say it is a nouveau problem... it is easier not to do anything about it.
[13:46] <smartboyhw> len-1304, I told him to report bug to nouveau
[13:46] <len-1304> There are lots of programs that work fine with that driver.
[13:47] <len-1304> I think it should also go against ubiquity
[13:47] <smartboyhw> len-1304, OK
[13:47] <smartboyhw> May be let him file the bug first. We can manually target against ubiquity themselves.
[13:48] <len-1304> My thought is that the video driver is maintained outside of ubuntu
[13:48] <len-1304> and for ubuntu to release an installer that won't work on a large percentage of hardware doesn't make sense
[13:49] <len-1304> If the live desktop shows up at all... then it should be installable.
[13:50] <smartboyhw> len-1304, yep
[14:17] <smartboyhw> Hello madeinkobaia :)
[14:18] <madeinkobaia> Hi smartboyhw ! How are you ? : )
[14:18] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, extremely good!
[14:19] <madeinkobaia> That rocks : ) 
[14:20] <zequence> madeinkobaia: Hi
[14:20] <madeinkobaia> Hi zequence !
[14:20] <smartboyhw> \o/ zequence is here:)
[14:20] <madeinkobaia> ; )
[14:26] <smartboyhw> zequence, um.
[14:26] <smartboyhw> The PR team should remain small, perhaps no more than five active members. This should hopefully prevent major overlap of news coverage and hopefully such a small group can find an easy (and informal) consensus about what topic each member should cover. 
[14:26] <smartboyhw> But according to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-public-relations that's 7 :p
[14:36] <smartboyhw> zequence, I propose removing the ubuntustudio-testing mailing list
[14:36] <smartboyhw> We only have had ONE email
[14:36] <smartboyhw> And that's a blank test message from you.
[14:50] <zequence> smartboyhw: I disagree. The bigger the PR team, the better
[14:51] <zequence> The more people we reach, the bigger we can get
[14:51] <smartboyhw> zequence, you made that sentence yourself.
[14:51] <smartboyhw> It's in the wiki, IIRC
[14:51] <zequence> The -testing mail list is not used yet, but if I can get my automated test scripts in order, it will soon be used for posting test results
[14:51] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[14:51] <zequence> smartboyhw: That may have been Scott, who wrote that
[14:52] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Let's delete!
[14:52] <smartboyhw> :P
[14:52] <zequence> The whole wiki needs a lot more work
[14:52] <zequence> YOu are welcome to edit it
[14:53] <smartboyhw> zequence, just been thinking: After 13.04 is released you will have three kernels to maintain :O
[14:54] <smartboyhw> zequence, I will clean up the wiki some day.
[15:04] <zequence> I really need to get my mail filtered
[15:04] <zequence> Had 700 mail in my inbox today
[15:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, :O
[15:05] <smartboyhw> zequence, I get 1300 of them after my last exam:P
[15:14] <madeinkobaia> Bbl : )
[15:15] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia, :)
[15:53] <zequence> smartboyhw: What mail client are you using?
[15:55] <zequence> I'm using the Opera built in mail client in the web browser. The best graphical mail client I've ever used
[15:55] <zequence> But, I'm moving to Mutt
[15:55] <zequence> Just haven't got around to it yet
[15:55] <smartboyhw> zequence: GMail in Firefox why?
[15:56] <zequence> smartboyhw: You should try something faster. Doesn't it take a lot of time using the browser?
[15:58] <zequence> The reason why I'd rather use Mutt is for speed, and being able to make local filtering. Opera is really fast too, but proprietary :(
[15:59] <zequence> One problem with cli programs is you always need to learn all the key commands before you can start uting it properly
[15:59] <zequence> Takes some effort getting into it
[16:00] <zequence> I wasn't a huge cli user in the past, but the more I get into it, the less graphical tools do I use
[16:00] <smartboyhw> zequence: I don't like desktop mail clients.
[16:01] <zequence> If you set up your own server, Mutt is not on your desktop, and you can access it from anywhere
[16:02] <zequence> Ok, new linux-lowlatency in proposed which should fix header linkage bug
[16:03] <smartboyhw> zequence: I think it fixes VB bug too. Would you please try?
[16:04] <zequence> smartboyhw: Yes, if that bug has to do with broken header links
[16:05] <zequence> smartboyhw: It's better for the reporter to find out. Do you have the bug number?
[16:06] <zequence> never mind. Found it
[16:06] <smartboyhw> zequence: I think it is the core reason.
[17:31] <TheBingsta> hello :)
[17:32] <TheBingsta> i am having some problems with my ViewSonic Monitor. it is acting as if there is no input, when it is enabled.
[17:39] <DarkEra> TheBingsta,  i think it's better to join #ubuntustudio for support :)
[17:46] <TheBingsta> oh cheers
[17:58] <madeinkobaia> See you all : )
[22:41] <len-live> zequence, Redoing install of 13.04 daily (two days old)
[22:42] <len-live> The locale chooser does more than set the time zone.
[22:44] <len-live> It starts out on "page timezone" of ubiquity. default language and country are enlish and US (Default locale = 'en_US.UTF-8').
[22:46] <len-live> then "Set debian-installer/country = 'CA'" Hmm, I didn't ask for that really, I just set the time zone. What if I want Paris french and PST time zone?
[22:46] <len-live> Language does not equal location.
[22:47] <len-live> So now I have locale = 'en_CA.UTF-8' and then language = 'en_CA:en'
[22:50] <len-live> The logs don't say anything about which timezone was selected even though CA could be any one of 5 timezones (if you include Newfoundland).
[22:52] <len-live> Newfoundland has its own timezone. UTC - 0330 = NST, Yup 1/2 hour out from the rest of the world.