[00:20] <Fabricio_BRBR> Olá
[00:21] <Tomcat> Evening everyone. I've an Inspiron 7720. Xubuntu 12.10 see's it's touchpad as a mouse. I've not found a settings file nor anything through google.
[00:22] <Tomcat> It's been like this with Arch, Slackware, Debian, etc
[00:43] <GridCube> ?
[02:50] <misterkittens> Hello, and I've recently installed xubuntu. This is my first step into linux based OS's, and was wondering if anyone had some tips for me?
[02:50] <|Slacker|> be happy
[02:50] <|Slacker|> ;)
[02:53] <misterkittens> My windows xp took a maximum of 10 clicks and 20 seconds to open one folder. Xubuntu does that, and a hundred other things a million times faster. I'm as happy as I can possibly be right now. :D
[02:56] <|Slacker|> yeah! xubuntu's quite fast
[02:59] <misterkittens> Yes, yes it is 0-0 I'm pretty much speechless. I thought my computer was pretty much done for. Xubuntu proved me wrong ^.^
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[03:18] <misterkittens> Irc, a place for people to gather when they want a sense of community, but not actually interact. Or talk for that matter...
[03:47] <maven> Hi Ｉ make the Panel2 auto hidden. But I found that it will be inconvenience when the mouse over the panel area while I am not intend to operation on the panel. SO I wonder if a delay can be set to the panel?
[04:37] <UkeofJersey> anyone have a quick way of finding out if the laptop I'm on has BlueTooth?
[04:37] <UkeofJersey> Xubuntu 12.10 XFCE
[04:38] <UkeofJersey> I'm aware that I could look up the specs of the laptop, but I was wondering if there were an easier way to find out on ANY given laptop
[04:38] <bazhang> sudo lshw ?
[04:39] <UkeofJersey> ok, could I ask specifically what that output is?  It's a load of lines and is there any way to grep for pertinent info?
[04:41] <bazhang> pastebin it and I will look if you wish
[04:41] <UkeofJersey> while I'd appreciate the help, I'd also like to learn...
[04:52] <UkeofJersey> I have a BlueTooth Devices section in Settings Manager, but "Adapter" and "Device" are greyed out.  How can I tell if this is a due to a lack of hardware or a lack of software?
[04:53] <bazhang> basic bt functionality should be in the kernel, you could install some bluetooth specific software I suppose
[04:54] <bazhang> !find bluez
[04:54] <ubottu> Found: bluez, bluez-alsa, bluez-cups, bluez-dbg, bluez-gstreamer, bluez-audio, bluez-btsco, bluez-compat, bluez-hcidump, bluez-pcmcia-support (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bluez&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[04:54] <bazhang> !info bluez
[04:54] <ubottu> bluez (source: bluez): Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 4.101-0ubuntu6 (quantal), package size 965 kB, installed size 2375 kB
[04:54] <bazhang> UkeofJersey, ^
[04:55] <UkeofJersey> I'll take a look, Thanks!
[04:57] <UkeofJersey> not much help...
[04:58] <UkeofJersey> bluez is installed and latest, but I have no indication as to whether the laptop is even capable or not.  This isn't the only laptop I'll be working on, so I would have liked a check to see if there is BlueTooth hardware at all...
[04:59] <bazhang> the system settings would indicate if it were available
[05:00] <UkeofJersey> the system settings have a BlueTooth Manager that has all the interesting bits greyed out
[05:01] <UkeofJersey> am I to assume that there isn't BlueTooth hardware at all?
[05:02] <bazhang> that would be a fairly clear assumption, yes
[05:02] <Unit193> lsusb shows me: Bus 003 Device 006: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)  for example.
[05:07] <UkeofJersey> thanks, Unit, that command gave me a nice succinct output (and that is far more helpful than condescension), but your readout would indicate to me that you have that output because you've plugged in a USB dongle, and that internal BT would look differently?
[05:08] <Unit193> lspci is another one, if built in, and *maybe* lspcmcia. :P
[05:08] <Unit193> UkeofJersey: And exactly, external USB device, try lspci (as above) for internal.
[05:10] <UkeofJersey> dang
[05:10] <UkeofJersey> unfortunately it looks like there is no joy
[05:11] <UkeofJersey> had I plugged in a BT dongle, I most likely wouldn't have asked if I had plugged it in, but your help is greatly appreciated nonetheless, Unit
[05:11] <Unit193> Oh, I was saying *my* output looks as such.
[05:11] <UkeofJersey> right, right
[05:12] <UkeofJersey> I understand and still thank you for trying
[05:12] <UkeofJersey> :)
[05:13] <Unit193> Sure thing!
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[07:28] <xubuntu957> hi there, i have question for xubuntu 12.10 which ppa can i bring in the system?
[07:28] <knome> xubuntu957, hello, what do you mean?
[07:29] <xubuntu957> knome: wait, i will explaine in second
[07:29] <knome> sure
[07:30] <xubuntu957> knome: can i use this ppa for my xubuntu 12.10: https://launchpad.net/~dhor/+archive/myway
[07:31] <Pensacola> yes I think that's no problem
[07:31] <xubuntu957> Pensacola: thanks!
[07:31] <knome> xubuntu957, yes, it seems to have quantal (12.10) packages. please note as usual that installing PPA's is at your own risk
[07:31] <xubuntu957> i will try now
[07:32] <xubuntu957> knome: yes, i know for the risk, but i trust this guy. i have some programs on ubuntu 10.04 before from his ppa
[07:33] <xubuntu957> knome: xubuntu is my new distro, before that i was have ubuntu 10.04
[07:33] <xubuntu957> i also saw i dont have synaptic
[07:33] <xubuntu957> how to add ppa from terminal?
[07:34] <xubuntu957> btw xubuntu is really fast and looks so good
[07:34] <xubuntu957> i think is faster than ubuntu 10.04
[07:34] <Pensacola> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dhor/myway
[07:34] <xubuntu957> even if i have kernel 3.xxxx
[07:35] <xubuntu957> Pensacola: thanks!
[08:29] <Inoki> Guys, anybody using plank here?
[08:30] <heoyea> sure
[08:30] <Inoki> heoyea: I want to alter the indicator dot in it, but somehow can't figure the way to do it. Changed several settings, nothing happened.
[08:31] <Inoki> heoyea: Is it dependant on the theme I'm using?
[08:31] <heoyea> guess so
[08:38] <MoL0ToV> hi to all, i have a problem with xubuntu livecd. i connected 2 identical notbook via a ethernet cross cable, but if i set static ip on both pc i cannot ping form one to another. exist a way to disable all automatic network config (network manager etc..) and use static ip then netcat + dd to clone partitions?
[08:39] <MoL0ToV> SystemRescueCd works via network?
[08:40] <MoL0ToV> clonezilla is more confortable?
[08:41] <xubuntu358> hi there, how to remove gmusicbrowser from volume control, is it possible?
[08:41] <knome> xubuntu358, if you don't use gmusicbrowser, you can uninstall it
[08:42] <knome> xubuntu358, if you do use it, then there's no way to remove it
[08:42] <xubuntu358> no, i will use it, but. how to remove it from volume control?
[08:43] <xubuntu358> my player for music is moc player
[08:43] <xubuntu358> knome: you have xubuntu?
[08:43] <knome> yes
[08:43] <xubuntu358> knome: you have preload installed on your system?
[08:44] <packetfrog> :>
[08:44] <packetfrog> >:D
[08:44] <knome> xubuntu358, please ask the real question
[08:44]  * packetfrog hides
[08:44] <xubuntu358> knome: you know what is service 'preload'?
[08:44] <knome> cat packetfrog > #xubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <packetfrog> Sir yes sir
[08:45] <packetfrog> preload preloads regularly used applications into ram
[08:45] <xubuntu358> yes
[08:45] <packetfrog> so as to speed up "loading"
[08:45] <xubuntu358> and you have installed on your system?
[08:45] <packetfrog> Yes
[08:45] <xubuntu358> ok
[08:45] <xubuntu358> i will also use it on xubuntu
[08:45] <xubuntu358> i dont need to restart computer after installing that service?
[08:46] <packetfrog> You dont NEED to.
[08:46] <xubuntu358> i have questions about music in xubuntu, someone will help me?
[08:47] <knome> !ask | xubuntu358
[08:47] <ubottu> xubuntu358: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[08:47] <heoyea> sure
[08:48] <packetfrog> What kind of problems with music sir!?
[08:48] <SunStar> some one will.. .  .    .         .                .        .    .  . ...Eventually
[08:48] <packetfrog> SUNSTAR
[08:48] <xubuntu358> i need program called..: festige, someone here know what i talking about?
[08:49] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: i dont have problem with music at all
[08:50] <packetfrog> xubuntu358, festige
[08:50] <xubuntu358> festige is program can handle with vst-and vsti plugins
[08:50] <packetfrog> xubuntu358, https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/festige
[08:50] <packetfrog> There you go sir
[08:51] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: this ppa can work on my xubuntu 12.10 quantal?
[08:52] <packetfrog> One easy way to find out sir
[08:52] <packetfrog> :>
[08:52] <xubuntu358> i see only for: oneric, lucid, maverick and natty
[08:53] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: do you want to try to find for my xubuntu 12.10 that ppa with festige?
[08:53] <packetfrog> No.
[08:53] <packetfrog> If you want to get all crazy try UbuntuStudio.
[08:53] <xubuntu358> :(
[08:53] <xubuntu358> i like xubuntu
[08:54] <packetfrog> UbuntuStudio is xubuntu made for audio/video production....
[08:54] <knome> xubuntu358, i'd ask in #ubuntustudio. they share the same base, and they know more about audio packages in that channel
[08:54] <packetfrog> It uses XFCE but has a low latency kernel and comes preloaded/setup for all that audio stuffz
[08:54] <xubuntu358> ok, i will see it. thanks!
[08:55] <xubuntu358> bb all
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Long time UbuntuStudio user here ... festige?  never heard of it ...
[08:55] <xubuntu358> cfhowlett: really?
[08:55] <xubuntu358> this is really great program
[08:55] <heoyea> compile it
[08:55] <xubuntu358> you can import some vst/vsti stuff over festige and wine
[08:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu358, no ppa's on my box ...
[08:56] <xubuntu358> cfhowlett: you can now ppa for ardour for xubuntu 12.10 quantal?
[08:57] <xubuntu358> know*
[08:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu358, could but won't.  I don't run 12.10.  LTS is just fine for my daily use
[08:58] <xubuntu358> ok guys bb i will check. this is today installed xubuntu so.. i can figure out how things work here
[08:58] <xubuntu358> thanks!
[08:59] <packetfrog> Festige does not look special to me.
[09:08] <packetfrog> some sort of wine front end for windows crap
[09:08] <packetfrog> :>
[09:14] <TheUser> Fetish?
[09:14] <TheUser> wtf
[09:15] <TheUser> So  what fetish is special to you, you say?
[09:15] <knome> TheUser, please watch the language
[09:15] <packetfrog> Erm
[09:15] <packetfrog> I had no part in that.
[09:28] <Inoki> Odd, really odd, why some launchers stick on the dock with custom icons other not. Can't figure this out with plank.
[09:33] <packetfrog> the information the dock is looking for is not in the location being looked in.
[09:33] <Inoki> Actually, regardless where I changed the icon for the browser, it doesn't change and the launcher is duplicated.
[09:33] <Inoki> The other icons work.
[09:34] <Inoki> Browser, text editor and a few don't change no matter what I've tried.
[09:34] <packetfrog> properties>appearance>icons?
[09:34] <Inoki> I'm using PNGs for custom launchers, not an entire Icon Set.
[09:34] <Inoki> I've changed the icon for the browser about everywhere, but still no success.
[09:35] <Inoki> I wonder why it does this. I make custom launchers for other programs, they work, they stack, a web browser, text editor and certain others simply don't stack and don't adopt properties.
[09:36] <Inoki> And couldn't find any documentation other than setting the dock up, which wasn't much.
[09:54] <xubuntu906> Hooray, installing Ubuntu on a netbook.
[09:55] <xubuntu906> Transfering from TuxTrans. Anyone know a way to bulk install a list of programs?
[09:56] <knome> xubuntu906, sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ...
[09:56] <xubuntu906> Much appreciated!
[10:02] <packetfrog> :/
[10:39] <NeaNs> Will the Beta release get stable when its released?
[10:45] <packetfrog> raring?
[10:45] <packetfrog> They cycle through
[10:46] <packetfrog> testing > current > outdated
[10:46] <packetfrog> then there is the LTS
[10:46] <NeaNs> packetfrog: so after installation of the beta version it will just update
[10:47] <NeaNs> when stable comes
[10:47] <packetfrog> As bugs are fixed and added in, YOU can sudo apt-get upgrade, i believe.
[10:51] <baizon> NeaNs: yes
[10:51] <baizon> it will automatically update to the stable version
[10:53] <packetfrog> automagically?
[10:54] <baizon> ?
[10:55] <baizon> i didnt wrote that =)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, apt-get dist-upgrade is also quite useful ...
[11:09] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, next lts is 14.04
[11:12] <packetfrog> YESSIR that is what I meant.
[11:12] <packetfrog> been up for 22 hours and I really do not know much about it anyhow :>
[11:12] <packetfrog> Thanks for the info
[11:13] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, no problem
[11:51] <xubuntuNoob> Hiya, i've just uninstalled Ubuntu from my netbook because it was just too sluggish, i'd like to Wubi install Xubuntu, but it appears it's not that easy... or is it?
[11:53] <baizon> xubuntuNoob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu
[11:54] <xubuntuNoob> bugger, so i didn't have to uninstall Ubuntu after all. I should have known it could be done, much like Cinneman. Thank you.
[11:56] <baizon> np
[11:58] <xubuntuNoob> pity it doesn't work through Wubi though. Do you know if there are any plans for a similar installer? It's just so handy to try out installs with it.
[11:59] <baizon> you can use a live CD
[11:59] <baizon> lor Live USB
[11:59] <baizon> *or*
[12:08] <xubuntuNoob> i'll look into it. It's been a while since i installed linux. The Ubuntu i was using was pretty old so i don't remember how the live CD works. Thanks again! :)  seeya.
[12:10] <baizon> see you
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[12:39] <koegs> is there a xubuntu 12.10 mac iso?
[12:40] <holstein> koegs: the "mac" of that era is intel.. so you dont need a special iso
[12:40] <koegs> holstein: i know, i am just wondering why there is http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[12:41] <holstein> koegs: right?! i saw that too, and have no idea what the difference is
[12:41] <holstein> koegs: and, i dont see a xubuntu one
[12:42] <koegs> me too
[12:42] <koegs> i have to find out what the difference is, but thanks anyway
[12:43] <holstein> koegs: maybe someone in #ubuntu-release?
[12:44] <koegs> heh, something about UEFI-Boot Problems, they removed UEFI support from the mac image, according to this post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[12:44] <holstein> koegs: sounds right
[12:45] <knome> i imagine the ubuntu-mac images is specifically built for mac
[12:45] <knome> for whatever reason
[12:46] <knome> (i don't know macs at all though, so don't ask me what the reasons might be)
[12:46] <koegs> i will see if the macbook air boot from the FAT32/Grub2/Multiboot-USB-Stick :)
[12:46] <holstein> knome: the mystery is/was that they dont need anything special, since they are intel.. but the uefi thing seems correct
[12:47] <knome> yeah, dunno
[12:47] <holstein> its something for xubuntu and ubuntustudio (and the others) to be aware of..
[12:49] <knome> mh
[12:49] <Cheri703> macs need some special wrangling to prep live usbs
[12:49] <Cheri703> at least mine did
[12:50] <holstein> Cheri703: the one i had didnt.. nor the few i booted live CD's on.. that was around 10.04
[12:52] <Cheri703> cds no
[12:52] <Cheri703> usb, yes afaik
[12:52] <knifcrawler> salut :D
[12:52] <Cheri703> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[12:52] <holstein> Cheri703: i use plop to boot usb's on legacy or otherwise non usb booting
[12:53] <Cheri703> I can only speak from experience: my macbook air would not boot with my usual liveUSB, I had to go through the process on that page
[12:53] <holstein> but, that is more about an issue with booting usb.. not the iso itself
[12:54] <knifcrawler> arf, des amerloques... :s
[12:54] <Cheri703> right, I was mentioning it for koegs who mentioned <pronoun> would be trying a USB
[12:54] <knifcrawler> ou des roosbifs !
[12:54] <Cheri703> in case it didn't work
[12:54] <knifcrawler> enfoirés de fils de pute d'anglosaxon !!!
[12:55] <Cheri703> uhm....?
[12:56] <Cheri703> in case koegs' attempt failed from the usual USB that <pronoun> might use on other computers
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !fr|knifcrawler
[12:57] <ubottu> knifcrawler: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[13:53] <arkanabar> is there some handy GUI tool to change the mouse cursor set in xubuntu12.04?
[14:01] <GridCube> the mouse settings?
[14:30] <koegs> thx Cheri703
[14:30] <Cheri703> sure :)
[14:34] <arkanabar> GridCube, how do I find those?
[14:35] <arkanabar> oh, there they are.
[14:45] <prjkt> hi what's the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu?
[14:46] <GridCube> one uses xfce the other unity
[14:51] <jrr> how can I get to the empathy accounts configurator?
[14:52] <jrr> I think I set it up under gnome or unity.. it seems totally absent from xfce
[14:54] <GridCube> if you click on the messaging icon in the indicators plugin, doesnt it has asettings option?
[14:54] <GridCube> havent used empathy in while
[14:54] <prjkt> okay
[14:54] <GridCube> prjkt, really there is no much difference beside that
[14:54] <jrr> the tray icon only shows/hides the buddy list
[14:55] <GridCube> the basics of ubuntu and xubuntu are the same, the only thing that changes its the windows manager
[14:55] <jrr> GridCube: and the settings thing, right?
[14:55] <GridCube> jrr, opening empathy from the applications menu?
[14:55] <jrr> from the buddy list, there's 'accounts' and 'preferences'
[14:56] <GridCube> well preferences its where i would look for accounts
[14:56] <jrr> accounts brings up "System Settings", with only four things in it
[14:56] <GridCube> empathy never was much of settings heavy in my memory
[14:56] <jrr> there's seemingly no access to remove this account, for example
[14:58] <jrr> I think gnome-control-center is supposed to have an accounts thing which applies to empathy
[15:05] <GridCube> oh i see, well that sucks
[15:05] <GridCube> jrr, http://askubuntu.com/questions/202514/how-can-i-manage-empathy-online-accounts-in-lubuntu-12-10
[15:05] <GridCube> the answer should be the same
[15:05] <GridCube> but i would simply not use empathy
[15:15] <jrr> GridCube: that's my goal - but I need to extract my settings in order to drop them into pidgin!
[15:15] <jrr> grep to the rescue
[15:33] <GridCube> jrr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1067901
[15:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1067901 in empathy (Ubuntu) "can't configure any accounts in empathy" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[15:33] <GridCube> mark it as happen to me please
[16:25] <noel_one> hi there! where is the file where i can put nouveau to black list?
[16:28] <xubuntu276> Hi just installed Xbuntu 13.04 beta2 and did all updates.  On balance I'm pretty happy and could switch to this as I hate Unity and find Mate and Cinamon more frustrating than better then 10.4 Gnome2 was.
[16:29] <xubuntu276> My showstopper issus is I can't seem to get the session manager to resotre my workspaces after a logout or reboot.  Windows are position far differently than I'd left them.
[16:30] <GridCube> xubuntu276, please join #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 support :D
[16:30] <GridCube> 13.04
[16:31] <noel_one> how to put nouveau in black list in xubuntu?
[16:32] <xubuntu276> I though if the xterms would go to the right spot I could live with it, so thinking it was XFce Xterm not honoring positioning hints I used prefered applications to select gnome-xterm, but it crashed the system if I opened more than two xterms.  so I'm stuck with this issue of impropper session restores.
[16:34] <xubuntu276> I'm new to this chat thing, and found this by a Xubuntu.org web site link, how do I change channels?
[16:35] <jrr> xubuntu276: in most IRC clients it's /join #channel
[16:35] <jrr> but not sure about embedded website clients
[16:36] <noel_one> xubuntu276, try xchat
[16:36] <xubuntu276> OK I'm using some kind of web client
[16:36] <noel_one> jrr, do you know hot to blacklist nouveau?
[16:36] <jrr> nope.
[16:36] <noel_one> how*
[16:40] <noel_one> can i use this ubuntu howto to remove nouveau from xubuntu:http://linuxers.org/howto/how-remove-nouveau-drivers-ubuntu
[16:43] <GridCube> yes
[16:43] <GridCube> at that level ubuntu and xubuntu are the same
[17:10] <xubuntu305> hi everyone!
[17:12] <SunStar> hi
[17:33] <SuperLag> the network icon in the top panel... is that network-manager?
[17:33] <GridCube> nm indicator
[17:33] <GridCube> yes
[17:33] <SunStar> yeah click on that for config
[17:33] <SuperLag> I just want to know if it's something else, or if it's network-manager, so I can install add-ons for it and not bring in a bunch of unneeded Gnome stuff
[17:45] <abderraouf> hi
[17:45] <GridCube> !hi | abderraouf
[17:45] <ubottu> abderraouf: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[17:46] <abderraouf> i can't run the Ethernet card on the new 3.5 kernel
[17:46] <abderraouf> 3.5.0-27-generic
[17:46] <abderraouf> but on 3.5.0-25-generic it is working
[17:46] <abderraouf> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[17:47] <abderraouf> xubuntu 12.10 amd64
[18:28] <SpudDogg> hello all
[18:30] <SunStar> hi
[18:33] <SpudDogg> seems in xfce i keep losing my desktop effects (default shadows and whatnot)
[18:33] <SpudDogg> i gotta get on fixing that
[18:48] <shreebles> hello everyone
[18:49] <baizon> hi shreebles
[18:49] <lderan> hey shreebles
[18:49] <shreebles> i have a question regarding the betas
[18:49] <shreebles> which is superior: install xubuntu beta 1 or install ubuntu beta 2 and get xfce-desktop via synaptic?
[18:50] <knome> shreebles, depends what you want.
[18:50] <knome> shreebles, there's a xubuntu beta 2 too.
[18:51] <shreebles> nice, did not know#
[18:51] <shreebles> what i want is a relatively stable, but really cutting edge distro with kernel 3.8 and nvidia support from the get go :)
[18:52] <xubuntu323> Where is the link for the MD5 sum for xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso?
[18:53] <baizon> xubuntu323: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04.2/release/
[18:55] <xubuntu323> OK, I see now, but I used the torrent download so did not stumble upon this.
[18:55] <xubuntu323> Thanks for your help
[18:55] <baizon> np
[19:24] <shreebles> is anyone else said that (x)ubuntu isnt rolling release yet?
[19:24] <shreebles> *sad
[19:26]  * bekks isnt.
[19:27] <heoyea> use arch then
[19:28] <shreebles> hm i like fuduntu better
[19:28] <shreebles> but gnome2 is boooring
[19:36] <shreebles> bekks, why do you prefer release cycle over rolling?
[19:36] <bekks> shreebles: Because I want long term support.
[19:37] <shreebles> bekks: do you use 12.04 LTS?
[19:37] <bekks> Yes.
[19:38] <shreebles> so upgrade every 2 years? or reinstall
[19:38] <bekks> Nope. Upgrade in 2017.
[19:41] <shreebles> nice, if you dont need the newest kernel
[19:42] <bekks> currently, I am running 3.9.0-rc6.
[19:45] <shreebles> wow
[19:45] <shreebles> and its still supported despite the new kernel?
[19:46] <bekks> All problems related to the kernel arent supported - I think I know what I am doing there :P
[19:48] <shreebles> cool, but makes me wonder that someone who installs the latest kernel still cares about LTS
[19:49] <bekks> I just dont want to mess around with updating my userland every 6 months like others do. Or every few days like on rolling releases.
[19:56] <shreebles> hm i will go for xubuntu then for my desktop
[19:56] <shreebles> im using fuduntu on my laptop and its rolling, no issues so far
[19:57] <David-A> with rolling release, they would still have occasional LTS releases, wouldn't they
[19:59] <bekks> David-A: You cant mix static release and rolling release.
[20:01] <David-A> not in the same system, but people who like LTS still have that choice
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[21:25] <martinor> hola?
[21:26] <lderan> martinor hi
[21:26] <r3negade> any way to off the screen with a command?
[21:26] <r3negade> ...without sudo
[21:27] <lderan> as in turn it off?
[21:28] <r3negade> yes. turn off the lcd output + backlight
[21:28] <TheSheep> r3negade: xrandr --output name-of-your-screen off
[21:28] <TheSheep> r3negade: you can get the list of names running xrandr without parameters
[21:30] <genii-around> xset dpms force off
[21:32] <r3negade> genii-around: works perfectly! thank you!
[21:32] <genii-around> r3negade: You're welcome
[22:01] <Lukaszz> hello
[22:02] <Lukaszz> can someone help me?
[22:02] <pleia2> !ask
[22:02] <Myrtti> difficult to know without knowing what your problem is
[22:02] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[22:02] <xubuntu710> heeey
[22:02] <xubuntu710> tengo un problema
[22:02] <xubuntu710> la instalacion no termina
[22:02] <knome> !es | xubuntu710
[22:02] <ubottu> xubuntu710: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.
[22:03] <Lukaszz> I just installed xubuntu, but when I run computer I have no system selection screen between xubuntu and XP
[22:03] <Lukaszz> Is there any way to fix it?
[22:04] <David-A> Lukaszz: did you select "dual boot/side by side" when you installed?
[22:04] <Lukaszz> yes
[22:05] <GridCube> Lukaszz, on a terminal run: sudo update-grub
[22:09] <Lukaszz> Ok, thanks
[22:22] <Lukaszz> I have one more problem, when I run computer, when I run computer, monitor turn of after few seconds and turn on again when xubuntu is loaded
[23:29] <javierito> hello all
[23:29] <javierito> i like start the cd installation last xubuntu in "alternate mode" (no graphic) in one old cpu
[23:29] <javierito> its posible? that version no have alternate cd :(
[23:30] <knome> there's no alternatives after 12.04
[23:30] <javierito> i hate the new installations modes xD
[23:31] <pleia2> you can use the ubuntu core image and select the xubuntu desktop when it prompts (it will download it all then, so it will take some time)
[23:31] <knome> !minimal
[23:31] <ubottu> The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:31] <pleia2> there we go
[23:32] <javierito> ty pleia2, i go to read this doc :D