[00:17] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1168578] Date & Time in Systemsettings doesn't saves settings changes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168578 (by BakLAN)
[06:53] <shadeslayer> anyone around?
[06:54] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer why?
[06:54] <shadeslayer> any objections to uploading a new grantlee to kubuntu-backports?
[06:55] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: As long as users can use it without critical bugs then no:P
[06:56] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: has been using it
[06:59]  * shadeslayer uploads
[08:30] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:00] <shadeslayer> :/
[10:00] <shadeslayer> I'm getting lockups in plasma-desktop
[10:01] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, ;/
[10:49] <soee> i left my laptop running all night
[10:50] <soee> now process called kded4 uses 1.3 GB memory
[10:50] <soee> any idea why?
[11:03] <shadeslayer> :S
[11:03] <Tm_T> soee: how you're measuring it?
[11:03] <shadeslayer> poor design 
[11:03] <shadeslayer> that's why
[11:04] <soee> Tm_T, looking at system monitor
[11:05] <soee> just killed the bastard, system hangs for few seconds than it start to work again, but monochrome icons are gone :D
[11:05] <Tm_T> soee: res or virt?
[11:05] <Tm_T> in here while this desktop session has been going for a week it's still eating ~30 MiB res
[11:06] <soee> res ?
[11:11] <soee_> back
[11:11] <soee_> my net crashed
[11:14] <Tm_T> soee_: residential memory, even that isn't telling the actual memory usage but if you are going to stare some number it should be that (RSS or RES usually AFAIK)
[11:14] <Tm_T> this might or might not explain something http://emilics.com/blog/article/mconsumption.html
[11:14] <soee_> ok thank you
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:57] <smartboyhw> Anyone uses Calligra Plan and want to be the maintainer?
[12:57] <Tm_T> Plan?
[12:58] <smartboyhw> Tm_T, yep.
[12:58] <Tm_T> aah, that kind of app, never used
[12:59]  * smartboyhw is troubling over some FFe/sync problems.
[13:08] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, you here?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:10] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/arandr/0.1.7.1-1 shows the latest version in unstable is 0.1.7.1-1 but the Debian website shows it is 0.1.6-1.
[13:10] <smartboyhw> Which one is correct!?
[13:10] <shadeslayer> mmmm
[13:11] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, mmm indeed.
[13:11] <shadeslayer> http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/arandr.html
[13:11] <smartboyhw> I need this new version to fix a bug.
[13:11] <shadeslayer>  Accepted 0.1.7.1-1 in unstable (low)
[13:11] <smartboyhw> eeeh. Thanks.
[13:12] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I am wondering would it need an FFe.
[13:12] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704407/ and try to determine.
[13:12] <shadeslayer> whut
[13:12] <shadeslayer> FFe?
[13:13] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, yep.
[13:13] <smartboyhw> I'm not sure would it invoke an FFe when I am needing to fix a bug.
[13:13] <shadeslayer> dunno, but I see translation changes, not sure if those qualify as violating the ui freeze
[13:13] <shadeslayer> gray area for me
[13:14] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: best to do an SRU instead
[13:14] <smartboyhw> ScottK, Riddell any advice?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> we're 3 weeks from release
[13:14] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, it is in this releaes.
[13:14] <smartboyhw> *release.
[13:16] <shadeslayer> ask in #ubuntu-release ?
[13:17] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, no one replied.
[13:17] <smartboyhw> So I asked you:P
[13:17] <shadeslayer> be patient?
[13:17] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I know.
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Just wanting some advice from a dev first.
[13:18] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I do have a simplier solution :P
[13:18] <smartboyhw> Maybe I shall use that then.
[13:18] <shadeslayer> ?
[13:18] <shadeslayer> my advise is to SRU it
[13:19] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, why?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> too late in the release cycle to sync
[13:19] <shadeslayer> we're only a couple of weeks away from release
[13:19] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I have a patch here:P
[13:19] <smartboyhw> A simple patch that fixes it.
[13:19] <shadeslayer> doesn't matter?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> we're frozen
[13:19] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, .........
[13:20] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, that patch ONLY fixes that bug. I would want the bug to get killed so people can have good experience. IIRC that bug causes the package unlaunchable.
[13:21] <shadeslayer> mmmm
[13:21] <smartboyhw> mmmm
[13:21] <shadeslayer> I'm not a release manager, I can't make the call
[13:21]  * smartboyhw suddenly finds a dup.
[13:21] <shadeslayer> but if I was, I'd go for SRU
[13:21] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, I will have to SRU to precise + quantal + raring then. (NOT GOOD)
[13:22] <shadeslayer> so?
[13:22] <shadeslayer> if it's a minimal patch, how is that an issue?
[13:22] <shadeslayer> either way, different people will have different approaches ;)
[13:25] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, that package is seeded though (by Ubuntu Studio)...
[13:25] <shadeslayer> hm
[13:26] <shadeslayer> That changes things
[13:26] <shadeslayer> if it's included on an default flavor
[13:26] <shadeslayer> and it's completely unlaunchable
[13:26] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, yep.
[13:26] <shadeslayer> then it makes sense to get an exception
[13:26] <shadeslayer> or drop package from seed :P
[13:27] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, uh:P 
[13:27] <smartboyhw> I might just put the patch in debian/patches and get it uploaded.
[13:27] <shadeslayer> this also makes me doubt upstream practices of releasing things :P
[13:28] <shadeslayer> if they did not test if things even start before releasing ....
[13:28] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, :P
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Damn it turns out I can't actually find the patch.
[13:47]  * smartboyhw needs to go into the repos.
[13:52] <smartboyhw> Crap shadeslayer can't find the patch 
[13:52] <smartboyhw> That patch is NOT a patch:(
[13:52]  * smartboyhw is totally fake-ed by the website
[13:54] <smartboyhw> Or rather, the patch is broken down into pieces, and I don't know how to work with git.
[13:55] <smartboyhw> Hmm we wouldn't do libmygpo-qt update right?
[15:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: around?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> ever seen a rejection email like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704982
[15:16] <smartboyhw> :O
[15:20] <shadeslayer> though it did say : debuild -S -sd did say : dpkg-source: warning: diff `kde-baseapps-4.10.2/debian/patches/4.10.patch' patches file kde-baseapps-4.10.2/plasma/applets/folderview/iconview.cpp twice
[15:20] <shadeslayer> when debuild -S -sd was running
[16:10] <Riddell> shadeslayer: advice on what?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> uhm, is this wrt http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704982 ?
[16:11] <shadeslayer> or smartboyhw's question
[16:11] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Eh too late, just filed an FFe.
[16:17] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ever seen something like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704982
[16:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nope, best as wgrant 
[16:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: never seen that
[17:07] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1168694] A dummy login screen is displayed upon idle @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1168694 (by Joonas Saarinen)