[01:12] <Morpheaus> looks like the wifi icon in today's update is broken - nice :)
[01:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Morpheaus: What does it look like? (imagebin)
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Mine looks just fine.
[01:15] <Morpheaus> hmm - one sec
[01:17] <Morpheaus> http://imagebin.org/253809
[01:18] <Morpheaus> I'm connected right now - it just doesn't show as connected - I also tried cycling NetworkManager (killed ID and then restarted it) - still same effect
[01:18] <Morpheaus> not that it's critical - just different and started today...
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> That could be anything...
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Sometimes I'm connected to (none) and it still gets me places
[01:19] <Morpheaus> SonikkuAmerica, any places you'd recommend to start?  I can go from there and dig in...
[01:19] <Morpheaus> heh
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> You might file a bug concerning network-manager
[01:19] <SonikkuAmerica> in Launchpad
[01:21] <Morpheaus> that's what I'll do - thx
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> yw
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Btw - I've heard all this hype about killing off Gwibber for this new Friends thing... I can't seem to find it.
[01:24] <Morpheaus> https://launchpad.net/friends
[01:25] <jbicha> SonikkuAmerica: install friends-app
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> got it, thx
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Glad we have so many people spread out across all the flavors.
[01:27] <Morpheaus> I'm going to have to play with that as well - looks interesting :)
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Apparently it doesn't work with Twitter... yet.
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> :\
[01:33] <trism> it kind of works...I got notifications for all the tweets but nothing showed up in the friends-app
[01:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Ditto here.
[02:19] <nurow> how difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?
[02:19] <nurow> I need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.
[02:21] <Kow> once you are using 13.04 there is nothing you need to do to upgrade to the final release, just make sure you are installing the updates through the update manager
[02:21] <Kow> nurow: see above
[02:35] <nurow> Thanks Kow
[03:36] <Morpheaus> great - just borked my glx setup
[03:36] <Morpheaus> wish they had nvidia 319.12 in raring as an experimental package :(
[03:37] <Morpheaus> looks like back to nvidia-current :(
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> Morpheaus, have you looked in the ppa?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> not sure if raring is there I will look
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> Morpheaus, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=nvidia
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> I think you know the drill. ;)
[05:13] <Morpheaus> wilee-nilee, thanks so much!  I'll check it out :)
[08:30] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:19] <mako_> anyone has succesfully installed vmware player 4 or 5 on (l)ubuntu 13.04?
[12:19] <xzcvczx> whats the error?
[12:19] <mako_> theres nothing but errors :P
[12:20] <mako_> moment
[12:20] <xzcvczx> during the install or when you try to run it?
[12:20] <xzcvczx> as theres multiple points to the install and one of them is building the required kernel modules
[12:20] <mako_> on case of version 4, when i try to run it
[12:20] <mako_> it says cannot find kernel header files
[12:20] <mako_> and i have them installed
[12:20] <xzcvczx> mako_: are you sure you have the ones for the kernel you are currently running
[12:20] <mako_> and when i look at the logs
[12:20] <xzcvczx> uname -a
[12:20] <mako_> yes i am
[12:21] <xzcvczx> ok
[12:21] <mako_> /tmp/vmware-mako/modconfig-4693.log is full of errors too
[12:21] <xzcvczx> pastebin it
[12:23] <mako_> http://pastebin.com/dKpa5CgF
[12:24] <xzcvczx> try locate version.h and see whether one exists in /lib
[12:26] <mako_> http://pastebin.com/t7S6L7T2
[12:29] <mako_> i would be perfectly happy with virtualbox but it cannot use more than 1 core for guest os on my laptop, and i read forum post about similar situation and that guy was able to run 2 cores on vmware
[12:29] <mako_> so yeah..
[12:29] <mako_> trying to make vmware to work now :/
[12:30] <jtaylor> multiple cores works for me with vbox
[12:30] <mako_> it is because of this cpu i have
[12:30] <mako_> atleast thats what i read
[12:31] <jtaylor> how would the cpu matter for this?
[12:31] <mako_> dunno
[12:31] <mako_> it does not have some virtual crap support
[12:31] <jtaylor> hardware virtualization?
[12:31] <xzcvczx> then you can only run single core in both vmware and xbox
[12:31] <xzcvczx> vbox
[12:31] <jtaylor> so its an atom cpu?
[12:32] <mako_> lemme find the post
[12:32] <xzcvczx> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:32] <mako_> no, core2duo
[12:32] <xzcvczx> and pastebin it
[12:32] <jtaylor> you could try kvm/qemu
[12:32] <jtaylor> afk a few minutes
[12:33] <mako_> http://pastebin.com/ZDBLksRH
[12:33] <xzcvczx> nah kvm won't work with a cpu without required virtualization stuff
[12:33] <xzcvczx> mako_: have you enabled virtualization in bios?
[12:33] <mako_> honestly, i have no idea :)
[12:34] <mako_> i'll reboot and go check..
[12:34] <mako_> brb
[12:34] <xzcvczx> cool
[12:34] <alankila> ... should have mentioned it's also required to poweroff the machine if there is a toggle in bios.
[12:34] <alankila> the cpu goes into virtualization-off mode for as long time as it has power once that switch is triggered.
[12:35] <xzcvczx> haha woops, oh well
[12:35] <xzcvczx> i only have an atom so i don't have hardware virt to know that
[12:36] <xzcvczx> although cpuinfo claims i have hardware virt
[12:41] <mako_> hi again
[12:41] <xzcvczx> wb
[12:41] <xzcvczx> find it?
[12:41] <mako_> yes, and was disabled :)
[12:42] <mako_> gonna test virtualbox again now
[12:42] <mako_> with 2 cores
[12:42] <xzcvczx> ok, alankila says you need to power off after changing that setting
[12:42] <alankila> you need to poweroff the cpu once you change this setting
[12:42] <mako_> ah
[12:42] <alankila> it remembers the state, it's a security feature
[12:42] <xzcvczx> so shutdown and come back and we will see you soon :)
[12:42] <mako_> brb again then :p
[12:42] <xzcvczx> sorry
[12:44] <xzcvczx> alankila: whu is it a security feature?
[12:44] <xzcvczx> why*
[12:45] <xzcvczx> hmmm can you even assign multiple cores when you only have a dual core?
[12:45] <xzcvczx> wb
[12:45] <mako_> thanks, 2 cores works on virtualbox now
[12:45] <mako_> :)
[12:46] <mako_> so f*ck vmware
[12:46] <mako_> thanls for help guys
[12:46] <mako_> thanks*
[12:46] <xzcvczx> ok all good :)
[13:13] <bekks> xzcvczx: No, you cant asign more cores than you have physically. And assigning all cores is pretty pointless too. You should leave one core for the host OS, always.
[13:14] <xzcvczx> thats what i was thinking
[13:17] <alankila> xzcvczx: there was a belief in threat of hypervisor malware, which is completely indetectable to the host OS if competently engineered.
[13:18] <alankila> the idea that virus would be able to enable virtualization and completely vanish from sight of the host operating system was a cause of worry, so bioses disabled it and cpus shipped with feature that prevented enabling it programmatically later
[13:18] <xzcvczx> ah ok
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> http://linuxaria.com/pills/how-to-scan-linux-for-vulnerabilities-with-lynis?lang=en
[13:20] <xzcvczx> i have only once seen a rootkit on linux, and it had left all the install stuff in /tmp so was easy enough to uninstall, i highly recommended that the owner reinstall anyway though
[13:29] <ThomasM_> So much people talking in #ubuntu
[13:30] <ThomasM_> Is someone here who nows how to create a working symlink for ttyUSB devices with udev rules?
[13:30] <ThomasM_> knows
[13:31] <ThomasM_> tried a lot different rules but didnt get it to run
[13:31] <ThomasM_> Everything work fine for ttyACM devies or video* devices but not for the ttyUSB devices
[13:33] <ThomasM_> This rule works:
[13:33] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1546", ATTRS{idProduct}=="01a6", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyGPS"
[13:34] <ThomasM_> and this one does not:
[13:34] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTR{idVendor}=="0403", ATTR{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboclaw"
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[13:40] <xubuntu072> hi .. do any of you use the new 319 drivers from nvidia with ubuntu?
[13:43] <xubuntu072> noone?
[14:05] <ThomasM_> MonkeyDust sorry for the löate answer but dindt thought somebody writes back
[14:05] <ThomasM_> it is Ubuntu 12.10
[14:05] <ThomasM_> its very strange because the ttyACM rule works but the ttyUSB dont
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  this is the channel for 13.04, which is not ready yet
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> !work | ThomasM_
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  better ask in #ubuntu
[14:11] <ThomasM_> I tried to ask in ubuntu but its not possible to put there all information about what i tried
[14:11] <ThomasM_> because to many people are talking
[14:11] <ThomasM_> SO i have more informations not only its not working
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  then put it in one line
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  but not here, go to #ubuntu
[14:12] <ThomasM_> okay thanks i try it again in #ubuntu
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM_  in one line
[14:39] <ThomasM> MonkeyDust do you have any other options, I cannot post the line it seems that it hast to much character
[15:12] <johnjohn1011> why doesn't ubuntu use systemd yet?
[15:12] <xzcvczx> johnjohn1011: why should it
[15:13] <johnjohn1011> isn't it an improvement on the old init system?  I was just curious.
[15:13] <xzcvczx> on sysvinit sure, but potentially not on upstart
[15:13] <xzcvczx> which ubuntu uses
[15:14] <johnjohn1011> oh, i didn't know about upstart.  i'm educating myself in this area, so excuse my lack of knowledge.
[16:41] <deusr> hello!
[16:41] <deusr> someone one here?
[16:42] <IdleOne> !br
[16:48] <SonikkuAmerica> IdleOne: ? How do you know deusr speaks Portuguese?
[16:51] <deusr> SonikkuAmerica, Sorry, I wrote wrong! staff ubuntu does not know how to solve a simple thing that I still do not know why it does not work in ubuntu.
[16:51] <IdleOne> SonikkuAmerica: from his host
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[16:51] <IdleOne> deusr: what is the problem you are having?
[16:51] <fsapo> Hi, in the wiki says that chrome is built with a different lib than 13.04 and we should use chromium istead. is it an issue or the wiki is outdated? ppl are saying the chrome is working just fine
[16:51] <fsapo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> (Maybe I need to run more whois's.)
[16:53] <deusr> IdleOne, ultrabook bought a samsung series 9 and am wondering configure the touchpad, because the default setting is horrible and ubuntu has nothing to configure. So configured in / etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf, but it does not read that file!
[16:55] <IdleOne> fsapo: Google may have fixed it and the wiki needs updating. I am not sure about it though. If it is working now, GREAT!.
[16:55] <IdleOne> deusr: sorry I don't know how to help with that.
[16:55] <fsapo> IdleOne ok, I'll try it out then :)
[16:55] <Maiks> how is 13.04 beta with amd hardware? I can't even start unity with my 6850 graphics card with 12.10
[16:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !ati | Maiks, not sure with 13.04 but this page might help
[16:57] <SonikkuAmerica> I assume you're talking AMD Radeon graphics?
[16:58] <Maiks> I have a 6850 HD, 2 years old + or -, and if I install privative dirvers, unitry doesn't even start
[16:59] <Maiks> thanks for the link, i'll take a look
[17:02] <fsapo> Another issue with the docs, is that the download page links to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[17:03] <fsapo> and this ImageWriter does not recognize iso files
[17:03] <fsapo> after a little search I found that ubuntu have a usb-creator-gtk package, and this thing is magic, it found by itself the disk image on my files O_o
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: It works wonders... when it works at all.
[17:05] <fsapo> I think that this info should be on the wiki, instead of the ImageWriter which aparently doesn't work
[17:05] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: I'd use Unetbootin or just dd to the media.
[17:06] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: The usb-creator-gtk (usb-creator-kde) instructions are on Ubuntu's Web site.
[17:06] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica but the download page of the 13.04 beta, links to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[17:07] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica which recommends using usb-imagewriter
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: My guess is that was written eons ago.
[17:08] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica well, I guess it might confuse ppl downloading the beta, as it did with me, I have to google for an alternative as ImageWriter doesn't open iso files
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: But most people looking for Ubuntu (with Unity at the least anyway) would wind up here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-desktop-latest
[17:09] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica had*. But usb-creator-gtk worked
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> s/have/had
[17:10] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica not if you google for install ubuntu 13.04, it leads to the daily iso download, which leads to that tutorial with the image writer
[17:11] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ this page has a link to the USB Image writting guide
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, I hate to say this bluntly, but if all 6 img users care, we usually don't give it a second look.
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Although I might ask why you need to install it from an .img file anyway.
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Particularly if it's a mobile device; you might wanna try #ubuntu-touch
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> I have a friend, however, who put Ubuntu 12.04 LTS onto his Droid Razr HD... don't ask why...
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> I think he did it from an ISO
[17:14] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica sorry, i'm not following. I'm trying to burn the iso to a usb stick to make a clean install
[17:15] <netherlands6> Hi I just install ubuntu 13.04 and follow the tutorial mentionning windows 8 system with uefi and I created an /boot/efi and during the installation ask to put the grub on this partition but when installation done and restarting I got an error said that I have no grub
[17:15] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: Oh...
[17:15] <fsapo> and I'm just saying that the download page link is misleading, just it, but as you pointed out it seems just a problema with the beta/daily page
[17:16] <fsapo> but as this was the page i was lead to by google, I'm sure that it can mislead other ppl too
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: I got here from the Ubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[17:19] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica interesting, this page doesn't have a link to the usb image writing guide
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: Try this page then: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/
[17:20] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica hum, so the problem is just in the daily build page, but unluckly thats the first result on google for "install ubuntu 13.04"
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: I wonder what sane person wants a daily anyway, other than devs and testers.
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> s/testers/"testers that want Kentucky Fried Ubuntu"
[17:22] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica google just set me up then =/
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Subliminal Googling
[17:22] <fsapo> :D guess I'll download the beta 2 then, you scared me out SonikkuAmerica ;)
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: There's only about 2 weeks before it's declared mentally stable.
[17:27] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica well, if the interns at canonical aren't as destructive as the interns I work with, I'll risk the daily build... at my work last week an intern caused some damage with a SET NULL in an sql without the where clause and it was deployed in production. It was easily reversible but we made him panic before telling him that :)
[17:29] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: I would have given almost anything to see that reaction. :D
[17:33] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica man, it was hilarious, the guy goes home at 4pm, we told him that it has been already fixed at 6pm and he was still looking for a way to undo the damage lol. We fixed it in 5 minutes but didn't told him.
[17:34] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: They would do that to keep the grunts on edge.
[17:36] <fsapo> Poor guy, just 18yo. Hope he doesn't get tired of the bullying and hit us like the zangief kid... anyway, I'll install the daily, If not back means that SonikkuAmericamething was wrong... thanks SonikkuAmerica, cya
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ^ O.o >>> SonikkuAmericamething was wrong
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> The heck is that/
[17:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[18:11] <bjsnider> fsapo, i think that workplace you are a part of is lousy
[18:11] <bjsnider> it's mean and cruel
[18:11] <bjsnider> and i don't know why anyone would want to work there over somewhere else
[18:12] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica, boot usb drive didn't work, partition is gone, windows doesn't boot and I don't have a recovery cd :) fuuuu
[18:12] <SonikkuAmerica> f7u12
[18:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Did you use usb-creator-gtk?
[18:14] <fsapo> bjsnider, well it wasn't that bad for the guy, it wasn't something so important either but we couldn't miss the oportunity to pick on him a bit so he pays more attention next time ;)
[18:15] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica. yes but didn't test the usb stick and delete the partition, should have burned it to a dvd or at lest tested it :( well I ll just instal 12.10 as I have the disk and upgrade
[18:17] <fsapo> or use it to restore grub and burn a dvd :p
[18:18] <SonikkuAmerica> The SPCDVD would not be proud, but OK
[18:32] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: Now why didn't you test the USB stick. O.o
[18:33] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica, blind trust on the usb-creator? :D
[18:34] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: No... Unetbootin would've done the dirty work though.
[18:35] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica, didn't know it, will try it out
[18:35] <fsapo> now I'm waiting dor the 12.10 install to finish ;)
[18:36] <quem> :)
[18:37] <quem> i'm actually happy with 13.04. it's working better than either 12.04 or 12.10 did for me
[18:37] <quem> i was beginning to lose faith
[18:37] <fsapo> SonikkuAmerica,  this things happens I drink some beers and nothing can go wrong lol hopefully I have time and still more beer :D
[18:37] <fsapo> quem, nice to hear. I
[18:38] <fsapo> heard a lot of ppl saying it that's why i'm trying it out
[18:38] <SonikkuAmerica> quem: I wonder if I'll have to eliminate Unity after the advent of Unity Next... I dunno if an Intel 965 could handle it
[18:38] <fsapo> I couldn't stand 12.1p
[18:38] <fsapo> moved to xubuntu
[18:39] <fsapo> hope I like 13.04
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> fsapo: That's why I moved to 12.1q
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Now I has Raring
[18:40] <fsapo> lol sorry about the spelling it's hard typing on a touch screen :(
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> XD
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> ai thinkz of Ooboontoo Tutch
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> My big thing is to resist the urge to switch flavors every 5 minutes
[18:45] <fsapo> I don't switch much but when I do, I don't test the installation disk lol
[18:46] <SonikkuAmerica> But now that I have League of Legends configured in PlayOnLinux, I'm locked into Unity. (I do have Lubuntu 13.04 in VBox though)
[18:47] <fsapo> m
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> n
[18:47] <fsapo> I'm very excited about steam
[18:48] <fsapo> can't wait for l4d2 on linux
[18:48] <SonikkuAmerica> I'm not. They need to fix their PPA! It breaks apt-get in its current state !!
[18:51] <fsapo> i'm unaware of this details but ths app itself crashes a lot
[18:52]  * SonikkuAmerica starts Spotify
[19:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Ack! Wine apps are appearing behind the top taskbar in Unity!
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> must say I miss the dual view (F3) in nautilus
[20:15]  * SonikkuAmerica gasps !!
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> I MISSED A FEATURE... O.o
[20:20] <bjsnider> MonkeyDust, it's not in 3.6 and beyond
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> bjsnider  this is 3.6.3, F3 dual view is no longer possible
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> and that's a pity
[20:25] <bjsnider> that's right
[20:52] <netherlands6> I have software error on dell inspiron 15R SE The system I have installed is: Ubuntu 13.04 beta2 (why 13.04 beta2? because I no longer have issues with graphic card or booting)
[20:52] <netherlands6> I have no sound and I have some messages popup on screen, is there a way to analised the OS and fix those error? in command line, a specific software? Please tell me how.Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[22:04] <sary> Salutations!
[22:05] <sary> I'm about to obtian a backtrace for X, and the GPU is Nvidia .. what is the correct dbg package name for X as in "  xserver-xorg-video-<name>-dbg. " ?!
[23:50] <markmcb> Anyone have an issue after a fresh install where the network repeatedly becomes unresponsive for 10-30 seconds … I've never had it before, but am noticing it with 13.04 Beta 2. Curious if there's known culprit.
[23:51] <quem> any updates regarding the skype issue?