Morpheauslooks like the wifi icon in today's update is broken - nice :)01:12
SonikkuAmericaMorpheaus: What does it look like? (imagebin)01:13
SonikkuAmericaMine looks just fine.01:14
Morpheaushmm - one sec01:15
MorpheausI'm connected right now - it just doesn't show as connected - I also tried cycling NetworkManager (killed ID and then restarted it) - still same effect01:18
Morpheausnot that it's critical - just different and started today...01:18
SonikkuAmericaThat could be anything...01:18
SonikkuAmericaSometimes I'm connected to (none) and it still gets me places01:19
MorpheausSonikkuAmerica, any places you'd recommend to start?  I can go from there and dig in...01:19
SonikkuAmericaYou might file a bug concerning network-manager01:19
SonikkuAmericain Launchpad01:19
Morpheausthat's what I'll do - thx01:21
SonikkuAmericaBtw - I've heard all this hype about killing off Gwibber for this new Friends thing... I can't seem to find it.01:22
jbichaSonikkuAmerica: install friends-app01:25
SonikkuAmericagot it, thx01:26
SonikkuAmericaGlad we have so many people spread out across all the flavors.01:26
MorpheausI'm going to have to play with that as well - looks interesting :)01:27
SonikkuAmericaApparently it doesn't work with Twitter... yet.01:32
trismit kind of works...I got notifications for all the tweets but nothing showed up in the friends-app01:33
SonikkuAmericaDitto here.01:34
nurowhow difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?02:19
nurowI need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.02:19
Kowonce you are using 13.04 there is nothing you need to do to upgrade to the final release, just make sure you are installing the updates through the update manager02:21
Kownurow: see above02:21
nurowThanks Kow02:35
Morpheausgreat - just borked my glx setup03:36
Morpheauswish they had nvidia 319.12 in raring as an experimental package :(03:36
Morpheauslooks like back to nvidia-current :(03:37
wilee-nileeMorpheaus, have you looked in the ppa?03:50
wilee-nileenot sure if raring is there I will look03:50
wilee-nileeMorpheaus, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=nvidia03:54
wilee-nileeI think you know the drill. ;)03:55
Morpheauswilee-nilee, thanks so much!  I'll check it out :)05:13
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lordievaderGood morning08:30
BluesKajHiyas all11:59
mako_anyone has succesfully installed vmware player 4 or 5 on (l)ubuntu 13.04?12:19
xzcvczxwhats the error?12:19
mako_theres nothing but errors :P12:19
xzcvczxduring the install or when you try to run it?12:20
xzcvczxas theres multiple points to the install and one of them is building the required kernel modules12:20
mako_on case of version 4, when i try to run it12:20
mako_it says cannot find kernel header files12:20
mako_and i have them installed12:20
xzcvczxmako_: are you sure you have the ones for the kernel you are currently running12:20
mako_and when i look at the logs12:20
xzcvczxuname -a12:20
mako_yes i am12:20
mako_/tmp/vmware-mako/modconfig-4693.log is full of errors too12:21
xzcvczxpastebin it12:21
xzcvczxtry locate version.h and see whether one exists in /lib12:24
mako_i would be perfectly happy with virtualbox but it cannot use more than 1 core for guest os on my laptop, and i read forum post about similar situation and that guy was able to run 2 cores on vmware12:29
mako_so yeah..12:29
mako_trying to make vmware to work now :/12:29
jtaylormultiple cores works for me with vbox12:30
mako_it is because of this cpu i have12:30
mako_atleast thats what i read12:30
jtaylorhow would the cpu matter for this?12:31
mako_it does not have some virtual crap support12:31
jtaylorhardware virtualization?12:31
xzcvczxthen you can only run single core in both vmware and xbox12:31
jtaylorso its an atom cpu?12:31
mako_lemme find the post12:32
xzcvczxcat /proc/cpuinfo12:32
mako_no, core2duo12:32
xzcvczxand pastebin it12:32
jtayloryou could try kvm/qemu12:32
jtaylorafk a few minutes12:32
xzcvczxnah kvm won't work with a cpu without required virtualization stuff12:33
xzcvczxmako_: have you enabled virtualization in bios?12:33
mako_honestly, i have no idea :)12:33
mako_i'll reboot and go check..12:34
alankila... should have mentioned it's also required to poweroff the machine if there is a toggle in bios.12:34
alankilathe cpu goes into virtualization-off mode for as long time as it has power once that switch is triggered.12:34
xzcvczxhaha woops, oh well12:35
xzcvczxi only have an atom so i don't have hardware virt to know that12:35
xzcvczxalthough cpuinfo claims i have hardware virt12:36
mako_hi again12:41
xzcvczxfind it?12:41
mako_yes, and was disabled :)12:41
mako_gonna test virtualbox again now12:42
mako_with 2 cores12:42
xzcvczxok, alankila says you need to power off after changing that setting12:42
alankilayou need to poweroff the cpu once you change this setting12:42
alankilait remembers the state, it's a security feature12:42
xzcvczxso shutdown and come back and we will see you soon :)12:42
mako_brb again then :p12:42
xzcvczxalankila: whu is it a security feature?12:44
xzcvczxhmmm can you even assign multiple cores when you only have a dual core?12:45
mako_thanks, 2 cores works on virtualbox now12:45
mako_so f*ck vmware12:46
mako_thanls for help guys12:46
xzcvczxok all good :)12:46
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bekksxzcvczx: No, you cant asign more cores than you have physically. And assigning all cores is pretty pointless too. You should leave one core for the host OS, always.13:13
xzcvczxthats what i was thinking13:14
alankilaxzcvczx: there was a belief in threat of hypervisor malware, which is completely indetectable to the host OS if competently engineered.13:17
alankilathe idea that virus would be able to enable virtualization and completely vanish from sight of the host operating system was a cause of worry, so bioses disabled it and cpus shipped with feature that prevented enabling it programmatically later13:18
xzcvczxah ok13:18
xzcvczxi have only once seen a rootkit on linux, and it had left all the install stuff in /tmp so was easy enough to uninstall, i highly recommended that the owner reinstall anyway though13:20
ThomasM_So much people talking in #ubuntu13:29
ThomasM_Is someone here who nows how to create a working symlink for ttyUSB devices with udev rules?13:30
ThomasM_tried a lot different rules but didnt get it to run13:31
ThomasM_Everything work fine for ttyACM devies or video* devices but not for the ttyUSB devices13:31
ThomasM_This rule works:13:33
ThomasM_KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1546", ATTRS{idProduct}=="01a6", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyGPS"13:33
ThomasM_and this one does not:13:34
ThomasM_KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTR{idVendor}=="0403", ATTR{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboclaw"13:34
MonkeyDustThomasM_  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?13:40
xubuntu072hi .. do any of you use the new 319 drivers from nvidia with ubuntu?13:40
ThomasM_MonkeyDust sorry for the löate answer but dindt thought somebody writes back14:05
ThomasM_it is Ubuntu 12.1014:05
ThomasM_its very strange because the ttyACM rule works but the ttyUSB dont14:05
MonkeyDustThomasM_  this is the channel for 13.04, which is not ready yet14:08
MonkeyDust!work | ThomasM_14:08
ubottuThomasM_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.14:08
MonkeyDustThomasM_  better ask in #ubuntu14:10
ThomasM_I tried to ask in ubuntu but its not possible to put there all information about what i tried14:11
ThomasM_because to many people are talking14:11
ThomasM_SO i have more informations not only its not working14:11
MonkeyDustThomasM_  then put it in one line14:11
MonkeyDustThomasM_  but not here, go to #ubuntu14:11
ThomasM_okay thanks i try it again in #ubuntu14:12
MonkeyDustThomasM_  in one line14:12
ThomasMMonkeyDust do you have any other options, I cannot post the line it seems that it hast to much character14:39
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johnjohn1011why doesn't ubuntu use systemd yet?15:12
xzcvczxjohnjohn1011: why should it15:12
johnjohn1011isn't it an improvement on the old init system?  I was just curious.15:13
xzcvczxon sysvinit sure, but potentially not on upstart15:13
xzcvczxwhich ubuntu uses15:13
johnjohn1011oh, i didn't know about upstart.  i'm educating myself in this area, so excuse my lack of knowledge.15:14
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deusrsomeone one here?16:41
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:42
SonikkuAmericaIdleOne: ? How do you know deusr speaks Portuguese?16:48
deusrSonikkuAmerica, Sorry, I wrote wrong! staff ubuntu does not know how to solve a simple thing that I still do not know why it does not work in ubuntu.16:51
IdleOneSonikkuAmerica: from his host16:51
IdleOnedeusr: what is the problem you are having?16:51
fsapoHi, in the wiki says that chrome is built with a different lib than 13.04 and we should use chromium istead. is it an issue or the wiki is outdated? ppl are saying the chrome is working just fine16:51
SonikkuAmerica(Maybe I need to run more whois's.)16:51
deusrIdleOne, ultrabook bought a samsung series 9 and am wondering configure the touchpad, because the default setting is horrible and ubuntu has nothing to configure. So configured in / etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf, but it does not read that file!16:53
IdleOnefsapo: Google may have fixed it and the wiki needs updating. I am not sure about it though. If it is working now, GREAT!.16:55
IdleOnedeusr: sorry I don't know how to help with that.16:55
fsapoIdleOne ok, I'll try it out then :)16:55
Maikshow is 13.04 beta with amd hardware? I can't even start unity with my 6850 graphics card with 12.1016:55
SonikkuAmerica!ati | Maiks, not sure with 13.04 but this page might help16:57
ubottuMaiks, not sure with 13.04 but this page might help: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto16:57
SonikkuAmericaI assume you're talking AMD Radeon graphics?16:57
MaiksI have a 6850 HD, 2 years old + or -, and if I install privative dirvers, unitry doesn't even start16:58
Maiksthanks for the link, i'll take a look16:59
fsapoAnother issue with the docs, is that the download page links to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles17:02
fsapoand this ImageWriter does not recognize iso files17:03
fsapoafter a little search I found that ubuntu have a usb-creator-gtk package, and this thing is magic, it found by itself the disk image on my files O_o17:03
SonikkuAmericafsapo: It works wonders... when it works at all.17:05
fsapoI think that this info should be on the wiki, instead of the ImageWriter which aparently doesn't work17:05
SonikkuAmericafsapo: I'd use Unetbootin or just dd to the media.17:05
SonikkuAmericafsapo: The usb-creator-gtk (usb-creator-kde) instructions are on Ubuntu's Web site.17:06
fsapoSonikkuAmerica but the download page of the 13.04 beta, links to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles17:06
fsapoSonikkuAmerica which recommends using usb-imagewriter17:07
SonikkuAmericafsapo: My guess is that was written eons ago.17:07
fsapoSonikkuAmerica well, I guess it might confuse ppl downloading the beta, as it did with me, I have to google for an alternative as ImageWriter doesn't open iso files17:08
SonikkuAmericafsapo: But most people looking for Ubuntu (with Unity at the least anyway) would wind up here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/install-desktop-latest17:09
fsapoSonikkuAmerica had*. But usb-creator-gtk worked17:09
fsapoSonikkuAmerica not if you google for install ubuntu 13.04, it leads to the daily iso download, which leads to that tutorial with the image writer17:10
fsapoSonikkuAmerica http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ this page has a link to the USB Image writting guide17:11
SonikkuAmericaWell, I hate to say this bluntly, but if all 6 img users care, we usually don't give it a second look.17:12
SonikkuAmericaAlthough I might ask why you need to install it from an .img file anyway.17:12
SonikkuAmericaParticularly if it's a mobile device; you might wanna try #ubuntu-touch17:13
SonikkuAmericaI have a friend, however, who put Ubuntu 12.04 LTS onto his Droid Razr HD... don't ask why...17:14
SonikkuAmericaI think he did it from an ISO17:14
fsapoSonikkuAmerica sorry, i'm not following. I'm trying to burn the iso to a usb stick to make a clean install17:14
netherlands6Hi I just install ubuntu 13.04 and follow the tutorial mentionning windows 8 system with uefi and I created an /boot/efi and during the installation ask to put the grub on this partition but when installation done and restarting I got an error said that I have no grub17:15
SonikkuAmericafsapo: Oh...17:15
fsapoand I'm just saying that the download page link is misleading, just it, but as you pointed out it seems just a problema with the beta/daily page17:15
fsapobut as this was the page i was lead to by google, I'm sure that it can mislead other ppl too17:16
SonikkuAmericafsapo: I got here from the Ubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto17:17
fsapoSonikkuAmerica interesting, this page doesn't have a link to the usb image writing guide17:19
SonikkuAmericafsapo: Try this page then: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.04/17:20
fsapoSonikkuAmerica hum, so the problem is just in the daily build page, but unluckly thats the first result on google for "install ubuntu 13.04"17:20
SonikkuAmericafsapo: I wonder what sane person wants a daily anyway, other than devs and testers.17:21
SonikkuAmericas/testers/"testers that want Kentucky Fried Ubuntu"17:21
fsapoSonikkuAmerica google just set me up then =/17:22
SonikkuAmericaSubliminal Googling17:22
fsapo:D guess I'll download the beta 2 then, you scared me out SonikkuAmerica ;)17:22
SonikkuAmericafsapo: There's only about 2 weeks before it's declared mentally stable.17:23
fsapoSonikkuAmerica well, if the interns at canonical aren't as destructive as the interns I work with, I'll risk the daily build... at my work last week an intern caused some damage with a SET NULL in an sql without the where clause and it was deployed in production. It was easily reversible but we made him panic before telling him that :)17:27
SonikkuAmericafsapo: I would have given almost anything to see that reaction. :D17:29
fsapoSonikkuAmerica man, it was hilarious, the guy goes home at 4pm, we told him that it has been already fixed at 6pm and he was still looking for a way to undo the damage lol. We fixed it in 5 minutes but didn't told him.17:33
SonikkuAmericafsapo: They would do that to keep the grunts on edge.17:34
fsapoPoor guy, just 18yo. Hope he doesn't get tired of the bullying and hit us like the zangief kid... anyway, I'll install the daily, If not back means that SonikkuAmericamething was wrong... thanks SonikkuAmerica, cya17:36
SonikkuAmerica^ O.o >>> SonikkuAmericamething was wrong17:37
SonikkuAmericaThe heck is that/17:37
bjsniderfsapo, i think that workplace you are a part of is lousy18:11
bjsniderit's mean and cruel18:11
bjsniderand i don't know why anyone would want to work there over somewhere else18:11
fsapoSonikkuAmerica, boot usb drive didn't work, partition is gone, windows doesn't boot and I don't have a recovery cd :) fuuuu18:12
SonikkuAmericaDid you use usb-creator-gtk?18:13
fsapobjsnider, well it wasn't that bad for the guy, it wasn't something so important either but we couldn't miss the oportunity to pick on him a bit so he pays more attention next time ;)18:14
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fsapoSonikkuAmerica. yes but didn't test the usb stick and delete the partition, should have burned it to a dvd or at lest tested it :( well I ll just instal 12.10 as I have the disk and upgrade18:15
fsapoor use it to restore grub and burn a dvd :p18:17
SonikkuAmericaThe SPCDVD would not be proud, but OK18:18
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SonikkuAmericafsapo: Now why didn't you test the USB stick. O.o18:32
fsapoSonikkuAmerica, blind trust on the usb-creator? :D18:33
SonikkuAmericafsapo: No... Unetbootin would've done the dirty work though.18:34
fsapoSonikkuAmerica, didn't know it, will try it out18:35
fsaponow I'm waiting dor the 12.10 install to finish ;)18:35
quemi'm actually happy with 13.04. it's working better than either 12.04 or 12.10 did for me18:37
quemi was beginning to lose faith18:37
fsapoSonikkuAmerica,  this things happens I drink some beers and nothing can go wrong lol hopefully I have time and still more beer :D18:37
fsapoquem, nice to hear. I18:37
fsapoheard a lot of ppl saying it that's why i'm trying it out18:38
SonikkuAmericaquem: I wonder if I'll have to eliminate Unity after the advent of Unity Next... I dunno if an Intel 965 could handle it18:38
fsapoI couldn't stand 12.1p18:38
fsapomoved to xubuntu18:38
fsapohope I like 13.0418:39
SonikkuAmericafsapo: That's why I moved to 12.1q18:39
SonikkuAmericaNow I has Raring18:39
fsapolol sorry about the spelling it's hard typing on a touch screen :(18:40
SonikkuAmericaai thinkz of Ooboontoo Tutch18:41
SonikkuAmericaMy big thing is to resist the urge to switch flavors every 5 minutes18:41
fsapoI don't switch much but when I do, I don't test the installation disk lol18:45
SonikkuAmericaBut now that I have League of Legends configured in PlayOnLinux, I'm locked into Unity. (I do have Lubuntu 13.04 in VBox though)18:46
fsapoI'm very excited about steam18:47
fsapocan't wait for l4d2 on linux18:48
SonikkuAmericaI'm not. They need to fix their PPA! It breaks apt-get in its current state !!18:48
fsapoi'm unaware of this details but ths app itself crashes a lot18:51
* SonikkuAmerica starts Spotify18:52
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SonikkuAmericaAck! Wine apps are appearing behind the top taskbar in Unity!19:37
MonkeyDustmust say I miss the dual view (F3) in nautilus20:14
* SonikkuAmerica gasps !!20:15
SonikkuAmericaI MISSED A FEATURE... O.o20:15
bjsniderMonkeyDust, it's not in 3.6 and beyond20:20
MonkeyDustbjsnider  this is 3.6.3, F3 dual view is no longer possible20:24
MonkeyDustand that's a pity20:25
bjsniderthat's right20:25
netherlands6I have software error on dell inspiron 15R SE The system I have installed is: Ubuntu 13.04 beta2 (why 13.04 beta2? because I no longer have issues with graphic card or booting)20:52
netherlands6I have no sound and I have some messages popup on screen, is there a way to analised the OS and fix those error? in command line, a specific software? Please tell me how.Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)20:52
saryI'm about to obtian a backtrace for X, and the GPU is Nvidia .. what is the correct dbg package name for X as in "  xserver-xorg-video-<name>-dbg. " ?!22:05
markmcbAnyone have an issue after a fresh install where the network repeatedly becomes unresponsive for 10-30 seconds … I've never had it before, but am noticing it with 13.04 Beta 2. Curious if there's known culprit.23:50
quemany updates regarding the skype issue?23:51

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