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| jconnett | Anybody here, yet! | 20:48 |
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| c7p | hallo ! | 20:54 |
| TonyP | Hi everyone! | 20:54 |
| godbyk | Hey, c7p. Hi, jconnett! | 20:54 |
| godbyk | Hey, TonyP. | 20:54 |
| cqfd93 | Hi everyone! | 20:54 |
| TonyP | Made it on time, this time :-) | 20:55 |
| cqfd93 | :-) | 20:55 |
| c7p | \me 2nd meeting for today | 20:55 |
| * c7p forgot the commands | 20:55 | |
| jconnett | Howdy all. Yes...I, too, forgot the commands, so nothing fancy from me today! | 20:57 |
| c7p | excuse me for coming without preparation, is there any agenda ? | 20:57 |
| godbyk | c7p: No formal agenda. | 20:59 |
| godbyk | c7p: I basically just want to check in with everyone and see how things are going, etc. | 20:59 |
| godbyk | Hi, hannie! | 20:59 |
| hannie | hey godbyk and all present | 21:00 |
| jconnett | Alright! 2:00pm PDT. Let's get this party started! | 21:00 |
| c7p | nice then ! | 21:00 |
| CarstenG | Hi at all | 21:00 |
| cqfd93 | hi! | 21:00 |
| CarstenG | Good evening :-) | 21:00 |
| jconnett | @impeccable timing, Carsten! | 21:00 |
| meetingology | jconnett: Error: "impeccable" is not a valid command. | 21:00 |
| manualbot | jconnett: Error: "impeccable" is not a valid command. | 21:00 |
| jconnett | Excellent timing, Carsten! | 21:01 |
| c7p | hi ! | 21:01 |
| CarstenG | Yes, just came back from a family party :-) | 21:02 |
| godbyk | Okay, let's see if anyone is missing. | 21:02 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Aw, sorry to pull you away from that. | 21:02 |
| CarstenG | No problem | 21:03 |
| godbyk | It looks like most of us are here. We're missing two or three, but they may pop in a bit later. | 21:03 |
| godbyk | I'll fire up meetingology just so it records everything, but I expect this meeting will be fairly informal. | 21:03 |
| godbyk | #startmeeting | 21:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Sat Apr 13 21:03:46 2013 UTC. The chair is godbyk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:03 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 21:03 |
| jconnett | We'll save all the work to assign to those missing...when they pop in! | 21:03 |
| godbyk | #topic Roll call | 21:03 |
| godbyk | If you're here, say hi! | 21:04 |
| jconnett | Hi | 21:04 |
| cqfd93 | hi! | 21:04 |
| hannie | hi | 21:04 |
| TonyP | Hi | 21:04 |
| CarstenG | Hi | 21:04 |
| c7p | hi | 21:04 |
| godbyk | Excellent! | 21:05 |
| godbyk | #topic Status report | 21:05 |
| godbyk | I called this meeting to touch base with everyone and see how things are going. | 21:05 |
| godbyk | I wanted to hear from the authors and editors of any problems they're encountering and if they think we can still make our schedule or if we need to adjust things. | 21:05 |
| hannie | Perhaps we should start with the authoring phase? | 21:05 |
| godbyk | hannie: Good idea. | 21:06 |
| godbyk | So how are things on the authoring side? | 21:06 |
| hannie | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS28NMLnYJXdGd1LVl5X2hvNkg2SEZiVzZ2RnYtWHc#gid=0 | 21:06 |
| godbyk | The authoring phase was originally scheduled to be complete at March 25 but we informally extended it for a week or so. | 21:06 |
| c7p | is there any author here ? | 21:06 |
| jconnett | I became an unofficial author as I had to undo Nautilus and incorporate Files in the Desktop chapter. | 21:07 |
| godbyk | Have we heard from John Cave recently? | 21:07 |
| hannie | jconnett, I had already rewritten Nautilus (to files) | 21:08 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Okay, so are you effectively authoring and editing the dash/search bar/browsing files section? How about the Ubuntu desktop environment section? | 21:08 |
| c7p | yeah, he sent me a mail saying he don't want to contribute to our project any more | 21:08 |
| hannie | Did you have to add things to it? | 21:08 |
| godbyk | c7p: Okay. | 21:08 |
| c7p | he did his section but i don't know how well it is | 21:08 |
| godbyk | c7p: Oh. I'll undo my changes in the spreadsheet then. :-) | 21:09 |
| c7p | so i sent it to Jim Connett, not sure if he received it | 21:09 |
| jconnett | Hannie had already rewritten the Nautilus section, but there were at least 5 sections I can recall where commands/GUI/screen responses were different. | 21:09 |
| c7p | jconnett: have you received my mail ? | 21:09 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Yeah. There may be more, too. We'll have to keep our eyes open for that. Nautilus/Files is kind of pervasive. | 21:10 |
| jconnett | @c7p Yes, I did. I incorporated the file. Didn't I reply?> | 21:10 |
| meetingology | jconnett: Error: "c7p" is not a valid command. | 21:10 |
| manualbot | jconnett: Error: "c7p" is not a valid command. | 21:10 |
| TonyP | I have done changes Nautilus > Files in U1 section | 21:11 |
| godbyk | Hi, tacorwin. | 21:11 |
| tacorwin | Hello, godbyk | 21:11 |
| godbyk | For the next cycle, I may add some more LaTeX commands just for our internal use. | 21:11 |
| c7p | jconnett: i think not, but no big deal if you are doing/did the job | 21:11 |
| godbyk | We'd use these commands to note which versions of the software are documented in each section/chapter. | 21:11 |
| godbyk | That way we can compare those versions with new versions and see what's different. | 21:12 |
| godbyk | Otherwise it's hard to track down each mention of something. | 21:12 |
| tacorwin | Are authors still allowed to edit their sections? | 21:12 |
| godbyk | We can also add some commands to specify what state the section is in (needs review, currently being edited, finished, etc.). | 21:13 |
| godbyk | That will help is keep track of our progress. | 21:13 |
| godbyk | tacorwin: Are you still working on a section? Which one? | 21:13 |
| hannie | c7p, have you had any emails from Vibhav Pant? | 21:13 |
| c7p | tacorwin: typically not, but i think if they can come in contact with the editor maybe | 21:13 |
| c7p | hannie: no i haven't get any mail from him | 21:14 |
| tacorwin | I was going to look at, and review the Advanced Topic section. I wanted to go through and hopefully add a few screenshots, if someone could take them for me. | 21:14 |
| tacorwin | I needed to look over the section on WINE | 21:14 |
| godbyk | tacorwin: Okay. You should chat with jconnett and work with him on that so you guys don't end up with conflicting files. | 21:15 |
| tacorwin | godbyk: Alrighty. | 21:15 |
| jconnett | I'm done with my pass through the Advanced section. Feel free to hack away. | 21:15 |
| c7p | to complete the report of what remain to be done from the authoring aspect | 21:15 |
| c7p | Software Management chapter doesn't have author | 21:16 |
| TonyP | Something needs to be done with Microblogging | 21:16 |
| tacorwin | jconnett, godbyk, and c7p: Alright. Thanks guys. | 21:16 |
| c7p | *Viewing and Editing Photos | 21:16 |
| c7p | *Reading and composing mail | 21:16 |
| c7p | * Burning CDs and DVDs | 21:16 |
| c7p | also don't have authors but author is not needed in these sections i guess too | 21:16 |
| jconnett | I already went through Viewing/Editing Photos as well as teh Burning CDs and DVDs section...made changes as needed. | 21:17 |
| c7p | so Software center is the problem | 21:17 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Okay, so those sections are up to date now? | 21:17 |
| c7p | soft. management* | 21:17 |
| jconnett | I'd say yes, but wouldn't hurt to have someone else go through it again. | 21:18 |
| hannie | cqfd93, edited software management | 21:18 |
| cqfd93 | I already reviewed software management | 21:18 |
| cqfd93 | and made the screenshots | 21:18 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Does that chapter need to be updated or is it in good shape? | 21:19 |
| jconnett | I've been lazy about my screenshots. I think Carsten was covering for me on that front, right Carsten? | 21:19 |
| cqfd93 | it seems in good shape | 21:19 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Okay, thanks. | 21:20 |
| cqfd93 | when I see screenshots I can do in other chapters, I do them :-) | 21:20 |
| tacorwin | jconnett: Could you possibly help me get some screenshots taken? I am unable to install 13.04 on any of my machines. | 21:20 |
| godbyk | The original plan for screenshots was that authors would take the initial screenshots. These draft screenshots can be the wrong size, wrong theme, etc. but need to provide enough info to the screenshot editors so they know what the screenshot should be of when they retake it 'properly'. | 21:21 |
| CarstenG | Well, I have some problems this week with my VM QEMU. But tomorrow I'm back at my laptop with real raring installation and I can contribute missing screenshots. | 21:21 |
| godbyk | But it seems as if there's been some confusion or problems when it comes to screenshots. | 21:21 |
| c7p | godbyk +1 | 21:21 |
| godbyk | How is everyone currently handling screenshots? | 21:21 |
| tacorwin | I am an author, and are unable to take any screenshots, godbyk | 21:22 |
| tacorwin | but i would like a couple put into the manual | 21:22 |
| godbyk | tacorwin: Can you at least take some draft screenshots that give us enough idea of what you want an official screenshot it? | 21:22 |
| tacorwin | it will have to be taken on a machine with Ubuntu 12.04.2, if that is alright. | 21:23 |
| CarstenG | What means "unable to take any screenshots", tacorwin? | 21:23 |
| godbyk | An easy way to take a draft screenshot is to ensure you have the proper window active and then press Alt+PrintScreen. | 21:23 |
| godbyk | If you want a screenshot of the entire desktop, just press PrintScreen. | 21:23 |
| godbyk | A window will appear asking you for the filename and where to save the screenshot. | 21:23 |
| tacorwin | I am unable to use 13.04 on my current machine, CarstenG. | 21:23 |
| CarstenG | ... or use the nice little program "shreenshot" | 21:23 |
| tacorwin | Alt-PrintScreen works for me. | 21:24 |
| CarstenG | ok | 21:24 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Or that. Though if that's the program you and hannie have been promoting, it seems that everyone forgets to turn off the cursor and other settings. | 21:24 |
| hannie | It's all in the style guide | 21:25 |
| godbyk | Are there any chapters or sections that we still need an author or editor to look at it? | 21:25 |
| hannie | Chapter 4: screenshots | 21:25 |
| godbyk | It sounds like some of those 'missing author' sections have been reviewed by editors already. | 21:25 |
| cqfd93 | tacorwin: what section are you working on? | 21:25 |
| CarstenG | right, Kevin, but Alt+PrintScreen takes also the mouspointer into account. | 21:25 |
| hannie | Not all chapters/sections have an editor, but not all chapters need one | 21:26 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: I just tried it here and I don't see a mouse cursor in the screenshot. | 21:27 |
| tacorwin | cqfd93: The "Advanced Topics" chapter, specifically the "How to run Windows Programs on Ubuntu" section | 21:27 |
| hannie | Have we decided on what to do with Wubi yet? | 21:27 |
| godbyk | For the sections in the spreadsheet with (none) listed as the author, do any of those sections need an author at this point? | 21:28 |
| jconnett | FYI...I just filled in my name to the empty "editor" slots on Chapter 2. I went through the whole chapter. | 21:28 |
| godbyk | hannie: I haven't heard anything more about it since that mailing list posting, but I haven't searched around either. | 21:28 |
| cqfd93 | tacorwin: ok, I'll se if I can take screenshots for it | 21:28 |
| godbyk | hannie: We should track someone down and get confirmation about Wubi one way or another, though. | 21:28 |
| jconnett | Wubi is gone, right? If so, the section goes to the bit-bucket in the sky. | 21:28 |
| hannie | godbyk, perhaps we should leave it in this version of the manual | 21:28 |
| tacorwin | Thanks you cqfd93 ! I dont have the LaTeX code there for it yet, but i will have it there tonight. | 21:29 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Ostensibly, yes. But someone mentioned that it still lives on the daily ISO image. | 21:29 |
| TonyP | Yes wubi has gone | 21:29 |
| c7p | i can't tell for sure if an author is needed for sure on any section | 21:29 |
| godbyk | Okay, I'll pull the Wubi stuff from the manual then. If it ends up getting added back to the ISO, then we can reinstate that material. | 21:29 |
| CarstenG | yes, I found the wubi.exe in the iso from 8th april. | 21:29 |
| hannie | TonyP, some sites say it has gone, others say it may be dropped from raring | 21:30 |
| cqfd93 | the hardware chapter only has one (tiny) screenshot, is that intentional? | 21:30 |
| jconnett | I've seen many message in my RSS feed regarding Wubi-no-more. | 21:30 |
| c7p | godbyk: i guess editors can tell at this phase of the series | 21:30 |
| TonyP | hannie: it has bugs init | 21:30 |
| hannie | so people who have installed wubi should not switch to raring? | 21:31 |
| godbyk | I'll drop Wubi for now. I can add it back in later if I get some official word that it will be on the ISO (and is functional). | 21:31 |
| godbyk | Is there anything else to discuss on the authoring phase? | 21:32 |
| godbyk | If not, we can move on to the editing phase. | 21:32 |
| jconnett | I just googled "wubi in ubuntu 13.04 raring"...every article states it's dropped. | 21:32 |
| jconnett | ...that is, every article on the FIRST page of results :) | 21:32 |
| hannie | c7p, will you adjust the credits section for the authors part? I will add editors names | 21:32 |
| c7p | sure | 21:33 |
| tacorwin | hmm.. I wonder why wubi is being dropped? | 21:33 |
| jconnett | buggy. | 21:33 |
| tacorwin | thats true.. | 21:33 |
| jconnett | unmaintained | 21:33 |
| CarstenG | it has problem working under windows 8 e.g. | 21:33 |
| jconnett | ...CarstenG: yea, that too. | 21:34 |
| tacorwin | ah. i see. | 21:34 |
| hannie | I have had no problems with wubi on a Windows 7 machine so far | 21:34 |
| tacorwin | hannie: I had problems with 12.04.3. All of the graphics were screwed up and files were corrupted. | 21:35 |
| tacorwin | using wubi.exe | 21:35 |
| hannie | tacorwin, that is not so good | 21:35 |
| jconnett | If it's not actively maintained, it's a risk to the integrity of the user experience, so it makes sense. | 21:35 |
| hannie | It depends on what bios is installed | 21:35 |
| tacorwin | I'd take over the wubi project if i could. and its not always BIOS at fault. | 21:36 |
| hannie | So, do we agree to leave the wubi part out of this version of our manual? | 21:37 |
| jconnett | Agree! | 21:37 |
| TonyP | yes | 21:37 |
| tacorwin | Agree as well. | 21:37 |
| jconnett | '%' it!~ | 21:37 |
| hannie | jconnett, good idea | 21:38 |
| jconnett | Can someone do a global search through the ENTIRE manual to ensure "wubi" is not mentioned? | 21:38 |
| godbyk | jconnett: I'll take care of the Wubi stuff. | 21:39 |
| cqfd93 | there is still its entry in the glossary ;-) | 21:39 |
| godbyk | #topic Editing phase | 21:39 |
| godbyk | On to the editing phase! | 21:39 |
| godbyk | How are all of our wonderful editors doing? | 21:39 |
| TonyP | I have done U1 and IM | 21:40 |
| hannie | welcome mkani | 21:40 |
| TonyP | But Microblogging is a real problem | 21:40 |
| hannie | I have posponed the closing of the editors phase to this weekend, is that ok? | 21:41 |
| TonyP | Gwibber has been dropped from 13.04 | 21:41 |
| cqfd93 | I've done Software Management and started working on *Reading and composing mail | 21:41 |
| hannie | TonyP, does it need a lot of rewriting? | 21:41 |
| godbyk | hannie: The original deadline for closing the editing phase is the 15th. Does that still work? | 21:41 |
| hannie | What has replaced gwibber, TonyP | 21:41 |
| godbyk | TonyP: Is there a Gwibber replacement? | 21:42 |
| TonyP | hannie: Yes or dropping altogether | 21:42 |
| mkani | I have completed the LibreOffice and Instant messaging chapters and pushed them across with screenshots. Proofreading has been completed. | 21:42 |
| hannie | godbyk, originally it was April 8 I think | 21:42 |
| TonyP | godbyk: its called FRIENDS | 21:42 |
| godbyk | hannie: Ah, you're right. I pushed it a week later in my head, too. | 21:42 |
| mkani | If there are any further requirements for proofreading/editing please let me know. | 21:43 |
| jconnett | For those editing Chapter 5, are you certain that the chapter is solid...without any declared authors? | 21:43 |
| hannie | cqfd93, I still see editing in progress. Are you almost finished? | 21:43 |
| cqfd93 | yes, but if someone could proofread it... | 21:44 |
| TonyP | godbyk: hannie: I cannot figure out Friends. Its not a complete Gwibber replacement | 21:44 |
| hannie | cqfd93, it was proofread by David Pires, but he did not change anything | 21:44 |
| mkani | I would be happy to proof read if necessary | 21:45 |
| hannie | TonyP, would it be sufficient to '%' the Gwibber part? | 21:45 |
| godbyk | TonyP: Okay, it sounds like that Gwibber/Friends stuff will require quite a bit of work then. | 21:45 |
| cqfd93 | I made a few changes | 21:45 |
| cqfd93 | but it was already very good | 21:46 |
| jconnett | godbyk: too bad, too, because the social aspect of any OS is so important these days. | 21:46 |
| hannie | cqfd93, are you talking about software management? | 21:46 |
| TonyP | hannie: godbyk: probably best to drop the microblogging section | 21:47 |
| hannie | TonyP, ay, the whole section? | 21:47 |
| cqfd93 | hannie: yes | 21:47 |
| TonyP | hannie: godbyk: it someone can mention the Friends lens in the Dash | 21:48 |
| godbyk | The Friend lens should probably be mentioned in the Dash section (in chapter 2). | 21:48 |
| jconnett | Is the Friend lens installed by default? I don't remember. | 21:48 |
| jconnett | Home, Application, Files & Folders, Music, Photos, Video (absolutely SICK that I did that from memory!) | 21:49 |
| TonyP | Looks like it is. I just put 13.04 on a USB and it was there | 21:49 |
| tacorwin | Alright everyone, I must leave now. Have a good morning/afternoon/day/evening/night! | 21:49 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Nicely done! :-) | 21:50 |
| hannie | I have just opened raring beta in VB, but I do not see a friends lens | 21:50 |
| tacorwin | (dont know where everyone is located....) | 21:50 |
| godbyk | tacorwin: Thanks for coming! | 21:50 |
| tacorwin | no problem! :) | 21:50 |
| hannie | bye tacorwin thanks for coming | 21:50 |
| cqfd93 | bye tacorwin! | 21:50 |
| TonyP | hannie: is it a up to date version | 21:50 |
| jconnett | There are 6 lens at the bottom of the Dash. I have no Friends lens. I'll look again tonight after pulling the latest beta. | 21:50 |
| mkani | I can't see a friends lense myself | 21:50 |
| hannie | TonyP, yes, I downloaded it yesterday | 21:50 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Okay, thanks. If it's not there by default, we may need to see when it shows up. | 21:50 |
| hannie | TonyP, but I do not use Twitter or Facebook | 21:51 |
| tacorwin | goodbye. cqfd93: Get in touch with me about screenshots! <tacorwin@outlook.com> | 21:51 |
| godbyk | Does it show up after you've created accounts through Friends? If so, it can probably just be mentioned in the Microblogging section (if we manager to rewrite it in time) | 21:51 |
| jconnett | I'll own this for Chapter 2. Let me update tonight and see if it's there. If it is, then it'll be referenced in the manual in Chapter 2. | 21:51 |
| TonyP | I cannot seem to install Friends as such. | 21:52 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Great, thanks! If it's not, let us know and we may put it in the microblogging section (if we don't just remove that section entirely). | 21:52 |
| TonyP | Not like Gwibber | 21:52 |
| hannie | thanks, jconnett | 21:52 |
| godbyk | TonyP: Friends isn't installed by default? | 21:52 |
| hannie | when I type friends in the dash I get contacts | 21:53 |
| mkani | Just a thouht but if htere are certain uncertainties regarding apps can't we add these as updates via a website dedicated to the manual | 21:53 |
| hannie | Welcome to Contacts! | 21:53 |
| jconnett | According to UbuntuUpdates, Friends has been deleted from the repository, and it is an installable app. | 21:54 |
| jconnett | http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/raring/universe/base/unity-lens-friends | 21:54 |
| godbyk | mkani: We can, but when we update the manual after we've released it, it causes problems for the translators. | 21:54 |
| mkani | Fair point...just an idea | 21:55 |
| hannie | jconnett, so it is not installed by default | 21:55 |
| TonyP | godbyk: Friends is installed, but it says it is friends-server run from the command line | 21:55 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. okay, let's doing some digging on the Friends situation and post our notes to the mailing list. | 21:57 |
| godbyk | If Friends is installed by default, we should try to document it if we can. | 21:57 |
| godbyk | If it's not installed by default, then we can just remove the Microblogging section for this cycle. | 21:57 |
| c7p | sounds reasonable to me | 21:58 |
| TonyP | As microblogging is all about Gwibber, it should be removed | 21:58 |
| mkani | When informing others of Ubuntu OS their main concern are viruses. How much of this is covered? As this is my first time on such a project this will be helpful for me too. | 21:58 |
| godbyk | We'll do some poking around during the next couple days and post our findings to the mailing list. We can make a final decision on Monday or Tuesday. | 21:58 |
| TonyP | OK | 21:59 |
| godbyk | TonyP: Agreed. I'll take care of removing the Microblogging section for now. | 21:59 |
| mkani | Due to the increase in social media and the fact it's for beginners, we need to ensure the users are aware of any ant-virus software or of any default security settings within Ubuntu. | 22:00 |
| godbyk | mkani: Right now we say: "Many viruses designed to primarily target Windows-based systems to not affect Ubuntu systems." | 22:00 |
| mkani | I understand but there is that concern from others I have spoken too. As an Ubuntu user mt | 22:00 |
| godbyk | mkani: And in a side note: "Just because Ubuntu implements strong security by default doesn't mean the user can throw caution to the wind. Care should be taken when downloading files, opening email, and browsing the Internet. Using a good antivirus program is warranted." | 22:01 |
| godbyk | mkani: And that's all we say at the moment. | 22:01 |
| godbyk | Are there any other issues for the editing phase? | 22:02 |
| mkani | Noted....thanks | 22:02 |
| hannie | I have asked editors via the list to update the spreadsheet, which they did. Thanks for that. | 22:03 |
| godbyk | Will all the editing be complete by 15 April (Monday)? | 22:04 |
| hannie | If not all editorial work has been done yet, I would appreciate it if editors can say when they will have finished their editorial work on the spreadsheet | 22:04 |
| godbyk | We're running out of buffer in our schedule. :-) | 22:05 |
| hannie | godbyk, do you know who is going to do the indexing? | 22:05 |
| godbyk | I'd like to get a public draft released soon so we can have others help with proofreading and get public comments. | 22:05 |
| hannie | teolemon, welcome | 22:05 |
| mkani | I will update spreadsheet as soon as | 22:05 |
| teolemon | hi hannie | 22:06 |
| godbyk | hannie: I think we have anyone specifically assigned to it. We tend to do it as we write/edit so far. | 22:06 |
| hannie | godbyk, the proofreading can begin as far as I'm concerned | 22:06 |
| godbyk | Are there any objections to my posting a public draft of our manual on Monday to solicit comments and proofreading from the public? | 22:06 |
| mkani | That would be great, if there are to be comments, what will be te cut off? | 22:07 |
| TonyP | hannie: I will try and have another look at Instant Messaging as thing are changing there as well | 22:07 |
| godbyk | mkani: We'll accept comments until 22 April. | 22:07 |
| godbyk | After 22 April, we'll need to have everything finished so I can start doing the final edits. | 22:07 |
| mkani | great...thanks | 22:07 |
| hannie | TonyP, if you can do that, it would be great | 22:07 |
| godbyk | then we'll be ready to publish the manual on 25 April. | 22:07 |
| hannie | godbyk, will you publish the draft on crocodoc? | 22:08 |
| jconnett | I think we should release the manual to proof on Monday, even if it's missing a few last-minute elements. | 22:08 |
| godbyk | hannie: Yes. I think that's worked pretty well for us in the past. | 22:08 |
| godbyk | jconnett: I agree. We'll spend this week finishing the on-going editing and also incorporating comments/edits from the public. | 22:09 |
| hannie | godbyk, is it necessary to wait until editors have finished before you put it on crocodoc? | 22:09 |
| godbyk | hannie: Not really. Except that other people may notice the parts we're still working on and comment about it. :-) | 22:10 |
| jconnett | Crocodoc doesn't allow edits by users, just notations, right? | 22:10 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Correct. | 22:10 |
| godbyk | jconnett: So we have to periodically skim through the annotations and incorporate the changes into our files. | 22:11 |
| hannie | godbyk, do we have to send an email about the indexing? | 22:11 |
| godbyk | jconnett: I periodically upload a fresh draft to crocodoc, too. | 22:11 |
| mkani | If the cut off is sunday taking into account time differences and so forth becuase if put out for comments on Monday, others may still be working on it | 22:11 |
| jconnett | Then I don't see an issue with releasing a version to Crocodoc while the "real" version is being worked on. | 22:11 |
| godbyk | hannie: I wouldn't worry about the indexing at this point. | 22:11 |
| godbyk | hannie: If you find things that should be indexed, feel free to add them. | 22:11 |
| hannie | godbyk, ok | 22:11 |
| godbyk | hannie: (We've never really had dedicated indexers. It's been mostly a dream on my part. ;-)) | 22:11 |
| hannie | It takes time to become an expert ;) | 22:12 |
| godbyk | Okay, are there any other issues that anyone would like to discuss? | 22:13 |
| hannie | godbyk, when the raring manual is released, will it be ready for translators on LP as well? | 22:13 |
| godbyk | hannie: Yes. | 22:13 |
| cqfd93 | then I can put on my translator and bug hunter hat! ;-) | 22:14 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Hey, you're supposed to be finding bugs *now*. ;-) | 22:14 |
| jconnett | I have no other issues. | 22:14 |
| cqfd93 | I know! | 22:14 |
| jconnett | ...well, now issues THIS group can help with ! :) | 22:15 |
| godbyk | jconnett: Ha! | 22:15 |
| godbyk | Okay, then. I officially call this meeting to a close! | 22:15 |
| godbyk | #endmeeting | 22:15 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Sat Apr 13 22:15:26 2013 UTC. | 22:15 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2013/ubuntu-manual.2013-04-13-21.03.moin.txt | 22:15 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2013/ubuntu-manual.2013-04-13-21.03.html | 22:15 |
| godbyk | You're all welcome to hang around and chat more, if you like, of course. | 22:15 |
| cqfd93 | for me, it's time to go to bed | 22:16 |
| hannie | the meeting is closed, but I want to say to all editors: thank you all for the work you are doing for the manual | 22:16 |
| mkani | All I can say is that it's been great to be a part of this experience, learnt a lot | 22:16 |
| cqfd93 | Bye everybody! | 22:16 |
| godbyk | Thanks for coming, everyone! | 22:16 |
| TonyP | bye all | 22:16 |
| mkani | My pleasure and sorry for the lt connection | 22:16 |
| hannie | Good night/afternoon to everyone. | 22:16 |
| c7p | bye all ! | 22:16 |
| mkani | Bye | 22:17 |
| c7p | i'ld like to stay but i'm very tired | 22:17 |
| jconnett | bye! | 22:17 |
| mkani | anyone left | 22:17 |
| c7p | good night ! | 22:17 |
| CarstenG | ok, see you all | 22:18 |
| CarstenG | good night. | 22:18 |
| mkani | Thanks for all the support that everyone gave | 22:18 |
| hannie | bye everyone | 22:22 |
| mkani | bye all | 22:25 |
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