[06:49] <Kilos> morning all
[07:24] <Squirm> morning
[07:46] <magespawn> good morning early birds
[07:47]  * magespawn nudges Kilos and Squirm
[07:47] <Squirm> hi magespawn 
[07:48] <Squirm> http://blog.linode.com/2013/04/12/security-notice-linode-manager-password-reset/
[07:48] <Squirm> lol
[07:48] <Squirm> to all ye linode users
[07:50] <Kilos> hi there magespawn 
[07:50] <magespawn> hey hey
[07:51] <magespawn> Squirm: did they get hacked or something?
[07:52] <Kilos> Maaz: define hey
[07:52] <Maaz> Kilos: Hey \Hey\, a. [See {High}.] High. [Obs.] --Chaucer. [1913 Webster], Hey \Hey\, interj. [OE. hei; cf. D. & G. hei.] 1. An exclamation of joy, surprise, or encouragement. --Shak. [1913 Webster]  2. A cry to set dogs on. --Shak. [1913 Webster]
[07:53] <magespawn> well i am not setting the dogs on you
[07:56] <Kilos> lol
[07:57] <Kilos> too many yankee movies
[07:57] <Kilos> hey dude
[07:57] <magespawn> Kilos apparently 8ta is going live with LTE in april
[07:57] <Kilos> what is lte magespawn 
[07:58] <magespawn> or "good day" *said with oz type accecent*
[07:58] <magespawn> blazingingly fast speed
[07:58] <Kilos> about time 8ta is at its slowest since i started using it
[07:59] <Kilos> took 5 hours to get 400m last night
[07:59] <magespawn> wow 
[07:59] <Kilos> need to fone them on monday and rev them
[07:59] <Kilos> used to get up to 300 kB/s
[07:59] <Squirm> magespawn: uh
[07:59] <Squirm> np
[07:59] <Squirm> no
[08:00] <Kilos> last night must been around 50 kB/s
[08:00] <Squirm> yes they still decided to reset passwords
[08:00] <Squirm> just to make users nervous
[08:00] <magespawn> ahh well that is 'good' security practice
[08:33] <Kilos> Maaz: tell mazal why you pop in and out?
[08:33] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[08:33] <Kilos> wonder where he has been
[08:33] <Kilos> very busy he will say
[09:04] <Kilos> magespawn: where did you hear the 8ta news
[09:09] <magespawn> zatech show podcast
[09:10] <magespawn> apparently they are going to have 1000 base stations with lte so will cover a much larger area than any of the other networks
[09:11] <Kilos> lekker
[09:11] <Kilos> hows 8ta doing there by you?
[09:11] <magespawn> it is not
[09:12] <Kilos> complain man
[09:13] <magespawn> they have no dedicated towers here and mtn is already overloaded in town
[09:13] <Kilos> if there is an mtn tower near then they build onto it
[09:13] <Kilos> aw
[09:13] <Kilos> but here 8ta actually put their own equipment onto the mtn tower
[09:13] <Kilos> so it aint roaming 
[09:14] <magespawn> vodacom in town is about the best, about 18kms out of town towards sodwana mtn is the best
[09:14] <Kilos> where do you stay in relation to town
[09:14] <Kilos> village
[09:14] <Kilos> that tiny place
[09:15] <magespawn> about 5km out but well within range of the vodacom 3G tower
[09:15] <Kilos> which direction?
[09:16] <magespawn> towards sodwana
[09:16] <Kilos> ah
[09:16] <magespawn> but that is 5 road kms 
[09:16] <Kilos> so straight through on the main road 
[09:16] <magespawn> from the tower probable about 1-3 kms
[09:17] <magespawn> let me get a map
[09:18] <Kilos> ah similar to here but mine is an mtn 8ta tower and the voda peeps moved their equpment  off this tower to their own about 5 ks away
[09:23] <magespawn> http://goo.gl/maps/AlTf8 where the hluhluwe airport is marked the houses to the left is where i stay
[09:24] <Kilos> you even have an airport?
[09:24] <Kilos> whew
[09:25] <magespawn> grass strip
[09:30] <Kilos> ai! i battle to work that map thing
[09:30] <Kilos> everything so tiny and when i zoom i end up somewhere else
[09:32] <magespawn> not too serious
[09:33] <magespawn> new server on the p3 up and running, fully updated
[09:33] <Kilos> lekker works good hey
[09:33] <Kilos> p3's still have their uses
[09:34] <Kilos> not having a gui makes a diffs
[09:43] <magespawn> indeed going to have learn how to use samba
[11:01] <Squirm> magespawn: it's not that bad
[11:03] <Cantide> o hai~
[11:07] <Squirm> hiya
[11:09] <Kilos> hi charl Cantide 
[11:09] <Cantide> Kilos, '-'/
[11:23] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[11:25] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos 
[11:25] <Vince-0> Lekka dag here
[11:27] <Kilos> bit cool here
[11:45] <charl> good afternoon
[11:45] <charl> hi Kilos 
[11:48] <magespawn> hey Vince-0 charl
[11:49] <magespawn> no do not think so Squirm, just something new
[11:50] <magespawn> Kilos have another pc with an amd 980mhz chip and a nvidia card
[11:51] <charl> hi magespawn 
[11:52] <Kilos> good magespawn make it work too
[11:52] <Kilos> faster than a p3 i think
[11:52] <magespawn> it is, just put some extra memory in it
[11:52] <magespawn> a little yes
[11:53] <Kilos> does it help putting money into a pc
[11:54] <Kilos> not better to get parts for it and put them in?
[11:54] <Kilos> hehe
[11:54] <magespawn> sorry?
[11:54] <Kilos> lol
[11:55] <magespawn> had only 128 now up to 256mb ram
[11:56] <Kilos> ah
[12:13] <magespawn> but it has no network card, so i will have to add that in
[14:11] <theblazehen> hi Kilos 
[14:20] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[14:20] <Kilos> whats news by you
[14:21] <Kilos> meeting monday evening hey
[14:21] <theblazehen> not much. I know
[14:21] <theblazehen> ordered a couple vps's a few days ago
[14:21] <theblazehen> mining litecoin on them
[14:21] <Kilos> magespawn: you still at work?
[14:21] <Kilos> whew
[14:22] <magespawn> yup but busy studying
[14:22] <Kilos> ah sorry
[14:22] <magespawn> no worries
[14:23] <magespawn> audio so i can type and listen to the lecture as the same time
[14:23] <Kilos> ah
[14:23] <magespawn> theblazehen: read an article that basically said that was not worth while
[14:24] <magespawn> cost of vp versus value of litecoins gained
[14:25] <theblazehen> i ake about $1 a month
[14:25] <theblazehen> make*
[14:26] <Squirm> I'd rather mine Bitcoin
[14:29] <Squirm> hmm
[14:29] <magespawn> the dollar value of those are like a yoyo
[14:30] <Squirm> I'm running dd, copying a partition to another partition. do you think it'll work?
[14:30] <magespawn> why not?
[14:30] <Squirm> or do I have to align partition tables or something
[14:30] <magespawn> should work fine
[14:30] <theblazehen> Squirm, I convert it to BTC
[14:31] <magespawn> do not know about that
[14:31] <theblazehen> but LTC is ore efficient on cpu
[14:31] <Squirm> dd if=/dev/sda4 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M
[14:31] <magespawn> theblazehen: are litecoins easier to mine
[14:31] <magespawn> looks okay to me but inetpro would know more
[14:31] <theblazehen> magespawn, less beginner friendly, but easy enough. If you only have a cpu available you make about 10x more profit
[14:32] <magespawn> mmm might take a look then
[14:32] <magespawn> have a few spare pcs to dedicate
[14:34] <Squirm> I'm busy pulling bit together to put up a little CentOS server
[14:34] <Squirm> I really, really would like an HP Microserver though
[14:35] <theblazehen> magespawn,  build minerd from these instructions: https://www.litecoinpool.org/help then register at http://ltc.nushor.net/ you can then run the miner with ./minerd -o http://ltc.nushor.net:8998 -u $name_of_worker,defaults_to_username.x -p $password,defaultis_x
[14:35] <magespawn> cool ty theblazehen
[14:36] <Squirm> theblazehen: what's the CPU usage like?
[14:36] <theblazehen> np
[14:36] <theblazehen> Squirm, as high as you let it
[14:36] <Squirm> ok
[14:36] <theblazehen> but you can always run it with nice
[14:36] <Squirm> yeah
[14:36] <Squirm> I mean, thinking of running it in the background or something
[14:37] <theblazehen> Do it al the time on my netbook
[14:37] <theblazehen> you can see their status on theblazehen.com
[14:37] <Squirm> my office machine is up all the time
[14:37] <theblazehen> Squirm, good
[14:38] <Squirm> and the current exchange rate?
[14:38] <Squirm> about
[14:38] <theblazehen> $1.8 per LTC
[14:39] <theblazehen> http://ltc.kattare.com/calc.php
[14:39] <magespawn> Squirm: one of these http://is.gd/6QtICy ?
[14:39] <Squirm> magespawn: yes
[14:40] <theblazehen> ltc/usd is 2.55002809
[14:40] <magespawn> mmm i have ooggling those for awhile too
[14:40] <Squirm> magespawn: small form factor, low electricity consumption, quiet
[14:41] <Squirm> want
[14:44] <magespawn> they are relatively cheep too
[14:44] <magespawn> cheap
[14:46] <Squirm> yes they are. But I can't afford to get something like that. It'll sit and I dunno what it will do
[15:19] <magespawn> cool just finished my n+ course material
[15:24] <Vince-0> naas
[15:37] <charl> naas botha?
[15:44] <magespawn> anyway home time now, later all
[17:51] <charl> good evening all
[17:51] <charl> i had a very interesting week
[17:51] <charl> had to figure out how to package oracle java for ubuntu
[17:51] <charl> ended up being a complete mess
[17:52] <charl> i need to find a bug report or submit one myself if i can't find it
[17:52] <charl> took me a whole day just to come up with a functional package
[17:52] <charl> and still not sure if it's perfect
[18:14] <inetpro> good evening
[18:16] <charl> hi inetpro 
[18:16] <charl> hi smile4ever 
[18:19] <smile4ever> hi charl :)
[18:28] <kbmonkey> greets fellows and lassies
[18:29] <charl> hi kbmonkey 
[18:29] <charl> just finished watching death race 3
[18:29] <charl> most of it has been shot in south africa
[18:30] <kbmonkey> hi charl :) cool I have not seen that yet.
[18:30] <kbmonkey> I've got the Devil's Rejects for later
[18:31] <kbmonkey> how was it?
[18:33] <charl> it was a typical action movie but very good
[18:33] <Kilos> lo inetpro kbmonkey charl Trix[a]r_za 
[18:33] <Kilos> and smile4ever 
[18:34] <charl> hi again Kilos 
[18:36] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[18:36] <Kilos> hows my monkey
[18:36] <smile4ever> and Kilos :p
[18:36] <kbmonkey> ook ook
[18:36] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <smile4ever> :)
[18:38] <smile4ever> byeee :)
[18:48] <magespawn> evening all
[18:48] <charl> wb magespawn 
[18:48] <magespawn> ty
[19:04] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:04] <Kilos> dont forget mondays meet
[19:08] <kbmonkey> man I'm getting hungry again. :)
[19:08] <Squirm> playback never worked :/
[19:08] <Squirm> if someone has tried to contact me in the last 4 hours, please state your claim
[19:19] <charl> playback?
[19:21] <Squirm> my ZNC usually plays back what I've missed in the channel
[19:28] <charl> oh i see
[19:28] <charl> i run irssi inside a screen session on a server so i can just ssh and reattach and use the page up key
[19:29] <charl> many years ago i used psybnc though
[19:34] <Squirm> charl: yeah, not a fan of irssi though. still like some of my gui stuff
[19:34] <magespawn> quassel?
[19:35] <Squirm> thought of that. haven't seen it though. I like xChat :)
[19:35] <charl> am the opposite of that, i like to try and do as much possible at the console/command line
[19:36] <charl> i'm busy transitioning from kde to i3 though
[19:36] <Tonberry_> i3?
[19:37] <charl> Tonberry_: http://i3wm.org/
[19:38] <magespawn> i am just getting used to kde
[19:39] <charl> i have used kde now for 13 years, time for a change
[19:39] <charl> not constantly though, i have been on gnome and openbox for a while too
[19:41] <magespawn> mmm indeed, i have not even been using linux that long
[19:45] <Squirm> charl: fine, I use the cli as much as possible as well. Am doing my RHCE exam next month. But on a desktop, I like certain things to be gui based
[19:56] <charl> rhce - they still have that? interesting
[19:56] <charl> it used to be quite a big thing some time ago
[19:56] <charl> haven't heard of it much the last few years though
[19:57] <charl> i think it's because most people moved away from redhat but it still gets used in many companies
[19:57] <Squirm> charl: if not RedHat then something like CentOS. Or any linux distro. The concepts pretty much stay the same. The packages are pretty much available across all distros
[19:58] <charl> yeah even oracle linux uses the same packages, also based on redhat
[19:58] <charl> same as what ubuntu is based on debian
[19:58] <Squirm> except
[19:59] <Squirm> CentOS = RedHat
[19:59] <Squirm> it's a package for package clone
[20:00] <Squirm> RH is still opensource, so the CentOS guys just compile the RH packages with the CentOS logos, etc
[20:00] <magespawn> and the linux certification is based on CentOS
[20:00] <charl> hahaha, i wonder why people still use redhat then, perhaps just for support
[20:00] <Squirm> yeah, it's the support you pay for
[20:00] <Squirm> which is meant to be pretty good
[20:01] <Squirm> I enjoy RH
[20:01] <Vince-0> me22
[20:01] <Lil-|^Red> ~OT |Meanwhile in Nigeria ^_^ :::::::: || http://motherlandnigeria.com/games/ayo.html :::: END
[20:01] <Squirm> very clean distro
[20:01] <Lil-|^Red> leaves.
[20:01] <Squirm> ...
[20:01] <magespawn> ?
[20:02] <charl> obvious spam is obvious
[20:02] <Vince-0> ya wot, 
[20:02] <charl> about redhat, we also use it at work, but considering we never make use of the support, i wonder why
[20:02] <Vince-0> dunno why anyone would spam that
[20:02] <magespawn> bit like running into a room shouting a word or sentance and then running out
[20:03] <magespawn> charl: maybe because it is proven
[20:03] <Squirm> magespawn: CentOS = RedHat
[20:03] <Squirm> except without the support
[20:03] <charl> magespawn: proven? :)
[20:04] <charl> centos is also pretty proven imho
[20:04] <Vince-0> ya most software is tested with Centos
[20:04] <charl> i used centos for the first time probably like 7 years back
[20:04] <Vince-0> Scientific Linus is binary compatible with RH i think
[20:04] <Squirm> cause it's RedHat :p
[20:05] <Squirm> Vince-0: probably cause it's based on CentOS
[20:06] <Vince-0> yar
[20:07] <charl> lots of people use fedora instead, but afaik fedora is much more on the cutting edge
[20:07] <charl> so you perhaps get less stability
[20:07] <charl> but you do get newer versions of the software quicker
[20:08] <Squirm> I didn't enjoy Fedora
[20:08] <magespawn> charl: as in all those other people use it so it must be okay for us
[20:08] <Squirm> it broke easily
[20:08] <charl> yeah
[20:08] <Squirm> felt... clunky
[20:08] <charl> can't say i have had much negative experience with fedora myself
[20:08] <charl> the only thing i had was some issues with graphics card drivers on nvidia but that's nothing out of the ordinary
[20:09] <charl> i had to replace nouveau with some binary drivers but that was a number of years ago
[20:09] <Squirm> I'd definitely have CentOS/RH as a server. I am really enjoying Mint MATE on my desktop
[20:09] <charl> i assume nouveau is up to scratch now
[20:10] <charl> i use ubuntu 12.10 for both desktop and server now, although at work i mostly run the latest lts release 12.04 on servers
[20:11] <charl> but for my personal server i try and stay on the latest release
[20:11] <charl> it's nice running exactly the same on both desktop and server because all the packages are the same etc
[20:11] <charl> at work you obviously don't "just" upgrade servers :)
[20:14] <Squirm> we were running Fedora, squid was unstable, the server was unstable. After I went on the RH course, I asked if I could test CentOS, just to see if it helped
[20:14] <Squirm> we haven't had a problem yet
[20:14] <magespawn> i try to keep all my stuff on LTS, but the desktops in the shop are on 12.10
[20:14] <Vince-0> I run Fedora17 at work laptop which is pretty usable without graphics, Centos on servers
[20:14] <Vince-0> I've takend a liking to Enlightenment DE
[20:15] <magespawn> ahh the wonders of open source choice
[20:15] <Squirm> yeah
[20:15] <Squirm> so many choices
[20:15] <Squirm> so many preferences
[20:15] <magespawn> awesome stuff
[20:15] <Vince-0> see Google's recent fork of Webkit as Blink?
[20:16] <Vince-0> gonna get more choice in browsers
[20:16] <Squirm> I may stick to Chrome
[20:17] <Squirm> waiting for my Nexus 4. Then I can sync everything to my phone as well :P
[20:17] <Vince-0> not to mention the recent forks made for Ubuntu graphics 'nstuff
[20:17] <Vince-0> yaa chrome is nice for that
[20:17] <Vince-0> the only thing it lacks is a decent tab grouper
[20:17] <Squirm> Firefox does it too
[20:17] <Squirm> hmm, tab grouper
[20:18] <Squirm> interesting idea.
[20:18] <Vince-0> too many tabs, firefox just puts em in boxes and remembers it for next time
[20:19] <Squirm> meh. I have to install windows on a machine. but cause i'm home I only have 1 set of everything
[20:19] <Squirm> and my laptop isn't here
[20:19] <Squirm> :/
[20:19] <Squirm> well, parents place
[20:21] <Squirm> so bbl
[20:23] <Vince-0> please excuse the long URL, my firefox tabs
[20:23] <Vince-0> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zSLdyy8xJN4/UWm-aKa3TdI/AAAAAAAABRQ/9cyPti51jR8/s1106/firefox_tabs.jpg
[20:25] <Vince-0> chrome add-ons claim to do group tabs but naay
[20:25] <magespawn> wow thought  i used a lot, but i have never had that happen
[20:26] <Vince-0> I like to keep em open for particular subjects
[20:26] <kbmonkey> wow Vince-0, that is insane. I have no more than 5 at any time
[20:27] <Vince-0> oh, kinda replaced bookmarks and just keep em there so I can see where I was last at
[20:27] <kbmonkey> holy crud, it's past dinner time XD
[20:27] <Vince-0> yar its like almost midnight snack time
[20:38] <kbmonkey> I'm a sucker for minimalism. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18686471/images/2013-04-13.22341365885296.png
[20:40] <kbmonkey> going to catch up on chow...
[20:47] <charl> kbmonkey: which desktop environment is that?
[20:47] <charl> also looks like some tiling implementation
[20:49] <magespawn> later all, bed time, good night all
[20:49] <charl> nn magespawn 
[21:11] <Squirm> cool
[21:12] <Squirm> pc is up and running
[21:52] <Vince-0> charl, think its openbox
[21:58] <Vince-0> or not, I can't remember