ZinnSoldatok how can i get an ununtu livecd?00:00
supertoughcan not mount samsung galaxy s3 on ubuntu 12.1000:01
wilee-nileeZinnSoldat, the cd's you burned are they not live cd"s00:01
newbie|3@wilee-nilee hey pls00:01
RyanTGUse the one from the install.  Just select run from CD instead of install at the boot menu.00:01
adamsilverdiaboliq: no a Mac00:01
adamsilverdiaboliq: why?00:01
supertoughcan someone go to google HQ and slap the douchebag for making MTP on android devices00:02
Scotch`Slugworthadamsilver: a profile is what contains your wireless settings. I refuse to use gnome so sorry i cna not help more then that00:02
wilee-nileenewbie|3, Not an area I am really the best help in to be honest. ;)00:02
adamsilverScotch`Slugworth: ok thanks00:02
RyanTGsupertough: go into your usb settings and change it if you don't want mtp mode.00:02
supertoughdid that it didn't work.00:02
supertoughstill not mounted00:02
RyanTGsupertough: usb sticks mount fine on that system?00:03
supertoughyes RyanTG00:03
Scotch`Slugworthsupertough: sorry but MTP is all that is available on current Android00:03
wilee-nileesupertough, YOu need the sdk kit and adb drivers I believe I have used gMTP though, rather a clunky app.00:03
wilee-nileenot with that phone though00:03
supertoughI got the gMTP but I can't copy files from my phone to my computer using gMTP00:04
Scotch`Slugworthsupertough: i to dislike MTP (namely cause its buggy with linux) but having the SD card demount from Android inorder to mount for the host PC, well MTP solves a lot of bugs there00:04
wilee-nileesupertough, I use this with my nexus 7 running 4.2.2 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html00:05
supertoughI dual boot my pc just hate the inconvenience of going back and forth to windows just so I can copy files from my phone to my PC00:06
wilee-nileesupertough, I just use W8 most of the time the nexus is rooted so I can do most without a computer at all.00:06
Scotch`Slugworthsupertough: what is it you want to do anyhow? just move some fiiles?00:07
RyanTGsupertough: I just run VirtualBox.  Then I can boot Windows inside Linux when I need something Linux doesn't run (yet).00:07
wilee-nileesupertough, I suspect the go-mtpfs link will work fine try it.00:07
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: Hey, I'm having problems.00:07
SonikkuAmericaRileyGuy: With Minecraft? :)00:08
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: Yes.00:08
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: It runs flawlessly but the sound is out of sync :/00:08
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: The more times i start it up the more it gets out of sync D:00:09
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: Lets go in private chat again :#00:10
RileyGuy:3 *00:10
SonikkuAmericaRileyGuy: Is there a #java channel (secondary namespace I bet?) here on freenode? If so, you might take it up with then.00:11
RileyGuySonikkuAmerica: Idk maybe00:12
SonikkuAmericaSecondary: ##java is the channel00:12
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dioxidewhats the proper, or most common way of disabling services in ubuntu server00:14
wilee-nileedioxide, You might ask in #ubuntu-server and be specific here or there. ;)00:15
dioxidethanks.  specific about what?00:17
jribdioxide: depends on the service and whether it's setup using upstart or the old sysv-init-style scripts00:17
wilee-nileedioxide, The services you want disable.00:17
dioxidewell specifically, pretty much everything but apache, sendmail, and sshd.  ive been removing scripts from /etc/init and /etc/init.d, but wondered if was something similar to bom, for console use00:19
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dioxideor bum, sorry00:21
dioxideboot-up manager00:21
yigalMonkeyDust: I believe the kernel is now building properly (cross compiled on my desktop) looking forward to this00:22
tgm4883dioxide, everything but those three? Seems kinda odd to have apache if you have no networking00:22
dioxidetgm4883:  the non essential everything but those00:23
tgm4883dioxide, in a default server install, what is non-essential?00:24
dioxideits probably not a default install, its what my vps provider offers.  bind and mysqld, to start with00:25
tgm4883yea thats not a default install00:25
tgm4883dioxide, why not remove them if you don't want them?00:25
learninghello guys, can someone take on this question and guide me in some information, i have an media player it's running some custom firmware but it is shiped with busybox(have root access to it from telnet, have wget/exec etc my question is can i somehow boot up a live ubuntu usb stick on it etc thanks!00:25
dr_willislearning:  totally depends on the exact hardware.00:26
tgm4883learning, probalby not00:26
tgm4883learning, what processor00:26
dioxidetgm4883:  id rather start by having them not automatically start at boot, then remove them when im sure everything else is working as it should00:26
dr_willislearning: i have several 'set top box media players' that use linux in one form or another. - most are not very 'hackable'00:26
wilee-nileelearning, There are minimal requirements to run ubuntu have you checked if this device meets them.00:27
tiredmanAnyone know how to power power off a web server at the command line?00:27
learningit's a roxcore ez-play stream not sure what the specs are will take a look00:28
dioxidetiredman:  apache?  service apache2 stop00:28
dr_willistiredman:  power down the machine?  the shutdown command, or poweroff command00:28
tgm4883dioxide, what version of ubuntu00:28
Ponch0anyone know how to work with grub rescue?00:28
tiredmandioxide: I use nginx00:28
SonikkuAmerica!anyone | Ponch000:28
ubottuPonch0: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.00:28
Ponch0I'm trying to follow the instructions I found but says unkonw command 'linux'00:28
Ponch0it's as real as it gets00:29
tiredmanI just need to power off the server, before I downsize it on my host from 1GB to 512MB00:29
wilee-nileePonch0, Can you describe how you got there, say grub modifications..etc00:29
dioxidetiredman:  service nginx stop, if its just the httpd you want to stop.  are you trying to turn the whole thing off or just the service00:29
tgm4883dioxide, or rather, what version of upstart?00:29
SonikkuAmericaPonch0: You can't use that... you need to boot from live media and run boot-repair00:29
dioxidetiredman:  shutdown -h now00:29
dioxidetgm4883:  sec00:29
tiredmandioxide: thank you00:29
Ponch0ok thank you. how would I run boot repair?00:29
Ponch0wilee-nilee: I installed ubuntu on external HD00:30
wilee-nileePonch0, Do you have the external being read first and did you make sure grub was put in its mbr?00:30
Ponch0wilee-nilee: I did not make sure of that no, I thought it would just do it.00:31
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dioxidetiredman:  1.800:31
Ponch0I thought wrong obviously00:32
tgm4883dioxide, is that at me?00:32
wilee-nileePonch0, Do you have any other ubuntu installs, or just the external. Grub went somewhere probably the internals mbr.00:32
dioxidetgm4883:  yea sorry. if upstart is where i wanna start lookin, ill scour the docs.00:32
tgm4883dioxide, in upstart 1.3 or later, you can disable jobs using an override file00:32
tgm4883dioxide, eg.    echo "manual" >> /etc/init/myjob.override00:32
wilee-nileePonch0, Was this a usb install it might be there?00:32
tgm4883dioxide, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting00:33
dioxidetgm4883:  thank you, sir00:33
Ponch0wilee-nilee: it's a usb external hd yes, but it was installed off of a CD00:33
Ponch0I found grub with ls in grub rescue I just can't set it to that for some reason following the instructions I found online00:33
Ponch0I'm in Live right now, it says it's not mounted, does that matter?00:34
wilee-nileePonch0, If you are familiar with a chroot and just running the grub-install /dev/sdX  "X= the external HD no partition numbers" you can use this link, if you do this be sure to run update-grub as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot00:35
Ponch0wilee-nilee: I'm not familiar with chroot at all.00:35
mikehaas763It seems like every once in a great while my mx 5500 keyboard loses its hotkey functionality. volumes, mute, play pause etc. Then it seems like it takes an indefinate amount of time until it starts working again. Maybe a week or so. Why would this be happening and how can I fix it?00:35
wilee-nileePonch0, FRom a live cd you will have to mount or chroot, however the bootrepiar tool may work if used correctly, personally I don't use it, but some find it helpful, but be careful.  Ponch0.00:37
Ponch0wilee-nilee: thank you.00:38
wilee-nileePonch0, No problem, YOu might just consider reinstalling it to learn the manual install and pointing grub correctly. ;)00:38
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Ponch0How do I point the grub, it did not give me that option.00:40
Ponch0I manually partitioned the HD but it never asked me to point grub anywhere.00:41
NekHello. I'm experimenting big problems with installing windows/Ubuntu on a computer with efi & 2 hdd.00:42
NekWhen i installé windows all works00:42
Ponch0ok boot-repair not found this package isn't locatable00:42
NekInstall *00:42
wilee-nileePonch0, In the install gui is a choice called something else, in the first screen is a dropdown it shows where grub is pointed to. You have to do a few other things there like set the mount for the partition as / and activate the partition opr make one if needed.00:42
Ponch0wilee-nilee: I did that, I created swap area and ext4 main partition as root00:43
xomniverseon raring ringtail, unable to install AMD 13.1 drivers because /lib/modules/3.8.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h is missing even though I have the headers package installed. any ideas on this?00:43
learningtgm4883: could not find out what processor it has any other information i can get to find out if it can boot..00:43
Ponch0wilee-nilee: i'm able to get into synaptic package manager, should I install download grub ?00:43
wilee-nileePonch0, In that first screen you missed the dropdown below the listing of the partitons it sounds like.00:44
NekWhen i connect my hdd with Ubuntu nothing work. I get an error from GRUB (rescue mode)00:44
wilee-nileePonch0, No grub is installed are you in the ubuntu install now.00:44
Ponch0yes i'm in Live.00:44
NekWhen i use thé boot repair, linux work again. But not windows...00:45
wilee-nileePonch0, No, you want the grub bootloader in the mbr, you have to mount it, chroot it the install that is, or cautiously use the boot repair app.00:46
wilee-nilee!grub } Ponch000:46
ubottuwilee-nilee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:46
wilee-nilee!grub | Ponch000:46
ubottuPonch0: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub200:46
Ponch0this boot-repair app doesn't exist00:46
NekIt does. I use it...00:47
wilee-nileePonch0, You are not following the posts I gave you the address where it is at, as well the link from the bot mentions it.00:47
wilee-nileePonch0, I have given you a fat toolkit, take a look. ;)00:48
NekNobody for my... Special problem ? :/00:49
Ponch0wilee-nilee: I know and I love you for that but I went into synaptic package manager marked all the grub installs for re-install and now it's asking me where to set up grub!!00:49
Ponch0wilee-nilee: so I get to choose which disk to install it to, would you have an idea if it goes on the main HD or the external?00:49
AreckxI am having this problem when I have windows in full screen, something is changed and I switch workspaces, and the toolbar on the bottom and top cover the full screen window :: http://i.imgur.com/qhkyzyq.png00:50
wilee-nileePonch0, You can't fix your  grub problem from synaptic00:50
Ponch0ah boo00:50
learningif a media player does not use grub to boot what other ways does it use to boot cause if i could just change that to boot from usb and see if it boots up ubuntu maybe ""i'm hopeful" ;) any ideas?00:50
diaboliqmedia player? with a usb slot?00:52
learningmedia player with usb slot00:52
wilee-nileePonch0, Any way I have to shop for dinner so best of luck. ;)00:53
Ponch0thank you, good luck with dinner00:53
AreckxThis may be related:: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/98669900:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 986699 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Window focus stays between workspaces" [Undecided,Confirmed]00:53
diaboliqwell unless your googling turns up something learning i would open up the manual to see if there is hope or a complete waste of effort00:54
diaboliqthere were other bootloaders before grub btw00:54
learningi checked the manual and have not seen a more lame manual for it like 2 pages one with just what formats it supports and other with random stuff not anything useful i have checked busybox website and the faq and wiki stuff but there is not any info stating how to boot into other distros etc00:56
dioxidetgm4883: if youre interested,  i found a bum replacement for console.  rcconf handles the stuff upstart doesnt00:56
NekGrrrr. Grub is before all of them. Why. Why. Why????00:58
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learningthe stuff i have learned so far is that it runs the sh and reads from profile file and loades up a bin file for media player and what not it runs from ash so the shell is ash and yeah still a bit clueless atm but i would so like to know if it can be done it drives me but i need a lead of some sort :P01:00
dioxidelearning:  check /proc/cpuinfo to see if you can find out what arch it is01:03
thesocant get into #defocus01:04
trakowski77I updated from 12.04 to 12.10 and in gnome shell I'm getting black areas in some windows... always in same windows, always the same areas01:05
trakowski77I did the upgrade on 2 different machines with exactly the same results.01:05
RobbyFI'm probably wrong but I'll give a suggestion. Sounds like video drivers01:06
RobbyFI 'think' I had a similar issue but that a year ago.01:06
diaboliqare they set to transparent, trakowski7701:07
diaboliqmaybe they need a root background01:07
AreckxI am having this problem when I have windows in full screen, something is changed and I switch workspaces, and the toolbar on the bottom and top cover the full screen window :: http://i.imgur.com/qhkyzyq.png01:07
trakowski77diaboliq: No just black01:08
willowshey, i'm looking to edit the file ~/.nanorc. However, I can't find it.. Any ideas?01:09
learninglol permision denied to run cpuinfo and wont budge when chmod or chown it :(01:10
trakowski77this is how it looks01:12
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diaboliqwillows your filemanager.01:12
SonikkuAmericadiaboliq: willows left01:12
trakowski77those places used to have a light gray background in both application (pidgin and eclipse)01:13
ner0xAnyone using skype in here know the best way to figure out how to setup the microphoen?01:13
kriskropdi'm trying to get audio to work on my ubuntu netinstall of 12.10 http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU - it worked with a normal livecd using pulseaudio and alsa and kernel version 17, but on the netinstall with version 27 kernel it doesn't work :/01:13
trakowski77it I have seen these issues in some other applications as well01:13
kriskropdI've tried adding options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 model=auto to the alsa-base.conf file too01:15
kriskropdand im looking through kernel configuration to see if im missing an option - anyone got a clue on this?01:15
tocsickHey all, the new updates have made mouse scrolling "jerky" (moves up and down unpredictably). Any idea how to fix?01:18
trakowski77any ideas about these black areas inside windows ?01:18
vicTROLLAtrakowski77, do you have a theme configured?01:19
trakowski77default theme01:19
trakowski77but I did not touch anything01:20
trakowski77just upgraded from 12.04 that worked fine01:20
trakowski77to 12.1001:20
warfarenI've got a laptop with a 1920x1200 screen but I wanna run it in 1280x800. However it only lets me choose 1920x1200 and no other res, what can I do? In Lucid i simply added modelines and resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but now in quantal it doesn't pick those up?01:20
vicTROLLAtrakowski77, I use KDE so I'm just guessing here but it looks like the adwaita dark theme01:21
trakowski77same problem occurred on 2 different machines01:21
trakowski77the them is light gray everywhere01:21
trakowski77except some very specific area01:21
trakowski77also regardless of which theme I choose the problem remains01:22
diaboliqsome apps might not support/work with the theme 100%01:22
trakowski77these 2 screenshot are related to eclipse and pidgin01:23
diaboliqthey aren't 100% compliant01:23
trakowski77they worked fine on 12.0401:23
tocsickhey everyone. how do i install the backports for my mouse? The new updates have been giving me problems with scrolling.01:24
learningi give up for now :P01:24
diaboliqtrakowski77,  do those programs have their own settings for theme preferences01:25
trakowski77Let me check01:25
NekGrub efi windows doesn't boot... Do you know why?01:25
ner0xOr possibly help me figure out how to get my audio working. :(01:26
trakowski77diaboliq: I do not see anything related to colors, but I have seen the same issue at some point in Nautilus, which is native gnome3 app01:27
trakowski77My feeling is it's somehow related to gtk3 ..01:28
diaboliqwhen you upgraded to 12.10 did those apps get updated as well01:28
trakowski77acctually the apps did not01:29
harrisrar ubuntu sucks my internet wont connect to wifi01:29
trakowski77except for nautilus01:29
trakowski77which is part of gnome-shell01:29
harrisit loads and loads and loads01:29
harristhen says disconected01:29
OerHeksharris what did you do last time when you had this issue?01:30
harrisi dont remember01:31
harrisit just worked01:31
diaboliqugh trakowski77 i would switch to the terminal versions of those sorry apps01:32
harrisi just want my wifi :(01:32
trakowski77diaboliq: after playing around with themes, when I switch to high contrast, the problem fixes itself01:32
trakowski77I suspect that the upgrade process bypassed my personal thems01:33
diaboliqoh like a reset nice trakowski77 !01:33
trakowski77and the old theme is not compatible with the new one01:33
diaboliqsee what happens next login01:33
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diaboliq(now that you know a fix/workaround)01:33
trakowski77I think I'm on the right track .. thanks for your help ;)01:34
diaboliqyw though tbh you fixed on your own lol01:35
warfareni got no answer for 15 minutes now, may i ask my question again?01:37
nexus`whats up warfaren01:37
warfarenI've got a laptop with a 1920x1200 screen but I wanna run it in 1280x800. However it only lets me choose 1920x1200 and no other res, what can I do? In Lucid i simply added modelines and resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but now in quantal it doesn't pick those up?01:37
warfarenalso i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/1083786 and i also have nv graphics so it might be the same bug for me :(01:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1083786 in xserver-xorg-video-nv (Ubuntu) "Only one resolution for a laptop screen, cannot change it" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:38
SonikkuAmericaIs nv still even supported? (I didn't think it was)01:40
warfarenwhat do you mean?01:40
SonikkuAmericaI thought nv was dumped for nouveau01:40
warfarennv as in nvidia, i have an nvidia graphics adaptor.01:40
warfareni'm using the proprietary driver now but the problem was the before i installed it aswell01:40
SonikkuAmericawarfaren: Ohhh... that isn't nv.01:41
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:41
SonikkuAmericaWell that was a fail.01:41
SonikkuAmericaI meant to say xserver-xorg-video-nv01:41
SonikkuAmericaisn't what you have then.01:42
warfarenalright. well i think i see what you're saying. anyways the guy who posted the bug also has an nvidia gpu and the same problem with the proprietary driver aswell as far as i could see01:42
SonikkuAmericaNo, his isn't the proprietary driver. Did you install from jockey (Additional Drivers) or from a shell script?01:42
warfareni did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current01:43
SonikkuAmericaThen that's nvidia-current, not nv01:43
warfarenwhich i assume is pretty much the same as jockey01:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto01:43
warfarenyeah fair enough. but the guy that posted the bug mentions that he tried it too01:43
SonikkuAmericaNot if you got it from x-swat (that's another story)01:43
Morpheausdidn't see the one from b401:43
SonikkuAmericaNo worries, 'twas the wrong thing anyway01:46
warfarenok so let's forget about nv and noveau and focus on my problem please?01:46
warfarenit will not let me choose any other res than the highest no matter if i'm using the proprietary drive ror not01:47
OerHeksluxury problem01:47
warfareni tried cvt 1280 800 60 followed by xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00"   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync ... but that did nothing01:47
machy all.. i am runnig trugh the instructions and setup of gnome-phone-manager.. i stoped bye, to ask this.. i also need evolution data server.. and i got two of them in ubuntu software center.. one got (metacity) - is what? need that one?01:49
Morpheauswarfaren, have you checked this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=208452901:50
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OerHekswarfaren, 1920x1200 , look at this metacode  >>> "metamodes" "DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1024x768 +0+0; DF    >>>>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/224776/how-do-i-rotate-my-monitor-using-xorg01:51
OerHeksso try  1280x1024_60 or: 1280x960 or01:52
OerHeksthe last one should work, 1024x76801:53
warfarenhm for some reason xrandr --newmode added it to the wrong display? when i type xrandr -q to look i see it added to DVI-D instead of my laptop screen (which still only has 1920x1200 that i dont want)01:53
diaboliq  you have 2 displays ?01:53
warfarenbut it adds it to DVI-D that i'm not using01:54
warfarenwhen i check "xrandr -q"01:54
diaboliqdoes it say 'disconnected' for DVI-D01:55
macwhat is metacityž01:55
macwhat is metacity01:55
warfarendiaboliq: yes it does01:55
OerHeks!info metacity01:56
ubottumetacity (source: metacity): lightweight GTK+ window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.34.8-0ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 268 kB, installed size 843 kB01:56
Morpheausmac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metacity01:56
moyam01i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing01:56
warfarenin fact i get errors when using --newmode (as root, nothing as normal user)01:56
diaboliqwhat are those errors01:57
warfarenX Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist) Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)01:57
warfarenand some more lines. dont wanna spam here01:57
Morpheaususe pastebin01:58
Morpheausand then post link01:58
macthank u.. and greetings from Trinity?01:58
warfarenyeah may aswell.. i just dont know what to do, if i'm doing the right thing at all..01:58
diaboliqtry what OerHeks suggested, the metamode01:59
diaboliqwarfaren, ^01:59
warfarenyeah i read a little on it but i'm not sure i understand it and where i use it?01:59
warfarenhere's the paste: http://pastebin.com/tLTudfCg02:00
diaboliqif you ran the nvidia-installer you have a tool called nvidia-xconfig iirc02:00
warfarenyeah i have that02:00
warfarenit recreated my xorg.conf02:01
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)02:01
nurowhow difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?02:03
nurowI need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.02:04
diaboliqwarfaren, if one already existed did it replace the original, usually it makes a new one somepalce else IIRC02:04
warfarenyeah it did. it replaced the one i had edited myself with a text editor02:04
Pinkamena_DRecently I have been having a problem where nothing is auto mounting. USB flash drives, Sd cards, CD/DVDs, I can mount then manually with MOUNT, but the will not pop up in the sidebar like they used to.02:05
Pinkamena_Dany suggestions?02:05
warfarendiaboliq: i did some things like hide the nvidia logo when the window manager starts and added in the mode lines i was using back on lucid (the same way i added them there, but then it was working)02:05
warfarenbut i looked at the new xorg.conf that it made and it did preserve my changes02:06
diaboliqdo you still have that, the metamodes goes into Device section for the gfx card02:06
diaboliqno wait02:06
warfareni'll post you my current xorg.conf02:06
diaboliqthen it put the new xorg.conf someplace02:06
diaboliqalso pastebin the Xorg log warfaren02:08
warfarendiaboliq: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?02:08
diaboliqdo an ls -l on it to see if it is the most recent02:09
diaboliqor at least the last one when you had a new xorg.conf02:09
warfaren/etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/PiS34FBj02:09
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warfarenit should be, there's only Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old in there02:10
nurowhow difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?02:11
nurowI need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.02:11
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diaboliqwarfaren, are there also Xorg.1.log etc?02:11
diaboliqwarfaren, in that dir02:12
warfarenit's a fresh installed system02:12
deusrhi people!02:12
deusrCan anyone help me? I want to configure the touchpad with synclient. I've already configured, put the file in "/ etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf" but ubuntu will not start the setup.02:12
diaboliqwarfaren, pasted the log yet02:13
warfarenon it.. just wanted to look through it so i dont paste something i dont want to publicize02:14
warfarenuh.. publish*02:14
diaboliqdont even think of editing it warfaren02:14
diaboliqoh security gotcha, my bad02:14
warfarenyeah i just want to see what i'm posting about my system02:15
diaboliqyeah it could be work related for the adult industry lol02:15
Ari-YangHello, what's the advantage of disabling 'Undredirect Fullscreen Windows' in the compizconfig settings manager?02:16
warfarendiaboliq: here's the log: http://pastebin.com/inZ94uJP02:17
mac_hy, all.. i mest up something.. following instructions i have tu press alt-f2 and than --replace02:17
mac_now i cant do anything02:17
diaboliqwarfaren, did you see where it refused the 1280x80002:20
warfarenno? does it say it in the log?02:20
diaboliqthe first place you ought to look02:20
warfarenohyeah.. i see it now02:20
warfarenyeah i guess you're right about that02:21
diaboliqdo you have the nvidia xserver settings on the menu?02:21
diaboliqliek to make adjustments02:21
diaboliqmaybe it will accept there lets try it02:21
warfareni've tried it. can only choose 1920x1200 there aswell in the drop down menu02:22
diaboliqwarfaren, go into advanced and try that02:22
warfarenyeah so i get "Panning:"02:22
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diaboliqbecause your physical screen can go bigger02:23
SierraARIn ubuntu server 12.04, how can I find what the server's lan ip is?02:23
diaboliqyou want o block out what is showing 'force the small one'02:23
SierraARI.e. or something like that?02:23
warfarenokay, well if i type in 1280x800 there the apply button gets greyed out02:23
diaboliqno no02:23
diaboliqwait warfaren02:23
diaboliqits the block that wouldn't show02:23
diaboliqso your screen prefers how big? 1920 x what02:24
warfarenthat's the native res02:24
diaboliqok but really wanted 1280x80002:24
diaboliqsosby, that means 1 sec i'm trying to recall02:25
warfaren1920x1200 is much too small and i know i can increase DPI but then i still dont get to choose lower resolutions for games so they will lag02:25
cortexA9hello all02:26
warfarenand games (steam) was the reason i left 10.04 for quantal..02:26
diaboliqtheres a gray area 1920-1280 and    640 x 40002:27
warfareni've got a 12.04 live cd aswell. might pop it in and see if it lets me choose other resolutions than 1920x120002:27
warfarenyeah i don't get to choose 640x480 either02:27
warfarenonly 1920x1200, nothing else02:27
TimothyAI have an issue with ubuntu: for some reason it's complaining I do not have enough space left on / but I have 24GB available02:28
TimothyAwhat should I check first?02:28
TimothyArootfs           39G   14G   24G  37% /02:29
warfarendiaboliq: ok i messed around with panning, i clearly understand what it does now02:29
SierraAROn another note, what can cause ubuntu server to show this when I try running 'sudo shutdown now'?02:29
diaboliqwarfaren, kewl02:30
warfarenheh, really had to see it to understand it02:30
warfarenbut it's no help here since it only lets me go higher, not lower02:30
moyam01i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing02:30
diaboliqheres what i found warfaren02:30
diaboliqOption "MetaModes" "1024x768 @1600x1200, 800x600 @1024x768"02:31
TimothyAwhat.... how is this possible02:31
diaboliqhe put the smaller rez with the @02:31
warfarendiaboliq: want me to add that in xorg.conf?02:31
machicoladoes 7 zip not work for RARs? I'm getting errors on the extract... are there any Ubuntu utils for .rar files?02:31
diaboliqbut use your numbers warfaren02:31
diaboliqmachicola, use unrar02:32
tgm4883machicola, did you try the unrar package02:32
Zacaromachicola: sudo apt-get install unrar02:32
warfarenwhich would be?02:32
warfareni have     Option         "metamodes" "1280x800 +0+0"02:32
machicolak thx02:32
warfarenin the file already02:32
diaboliqbut you know what that does02:32
TimothyAwhy would ubuntu do this all of a sudden?02:32
diaboliqso 1280x800@1920x900 +0+002:33
TimothyAI still have plenty of diskspace left, but ubuntu goes "No, you don't"02:33
warfarendiaboliq: no, it's just something i created years ago when i was running 10.04.. it's what i came up with after following a tutorial02:33
warfarenhm okay ill try that02:33
diaboliqbut make sure my numbers match02:33
diaboliqhey at this point...02:33
warfarenbtw, when editing xorg.conf, do i need to restart the whole system or just the window manager (i.e. logging out) to apply the changes?02:34
machicolawhat is command line syntax to extract a single file with unrar?02:34
rlaagerI'm running Precise. I applied a few updates and now my DPI is (improperly) being calculated at 96.02:34
warfareni assume window manager as that's what loads X?02:34
diaboliqlog out warfaren then service lxdm stop or someth like that02:34
machicolahah, found it!02:35
diaboliqwarfaren, specially the DM if you have a login or autologin02:35
warfarenyeah no auto login here02:35
TimothyAoh, problem found...02:35
diaboliqwe dont need no steenkin...02:35
TimothyAand I am not going to announce the answer02:35
michelanyone try fuduntu?02:36
diaboliqand so began TimothyA's descent02:37
warfarendiaboliq: hm, some progress... now when i choose 1920x1200 in nvidia x server settings i get 640x480 or something02:37
warfarennot the res that i asked but it's progress02:37
diaboliqtime to check the new Xorg log...02:37
warfarenand the "auto" option being real 1920x120002:37
diaboliqsee why it 'liked' 640x480 warfaren02:37
warfarenyeah there's definately something in there.. ill pastebin the parts that look relevant02:38
warfarenhttp://pastebin.com/8pUF8NVZ there02:38
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warfarendiaboliq: also i dunno what's LVDS-0 and DFP-0? i assume something like lenovo video and digital flat panel?02:40
diaboliqwarfaren, LVDS is almost standard name (not lenovo) for the display on a laptop. DFP is digital flat panel02:41
diaboliqthats why even xrandr uses those terms02:41
warfareni see. so what do you make of the last log i posted?02:42
nurowfor Intel 64 bit, which OS image do I use? AMD64?02:42
warfarennurow: yeah that's fine02:43
warfarennurow: it's only called AMD64 because AMD invented the 64 bit extension for the x86 architecture, it's sometimes also called x86-64 ... but intel uses the same thing too02:43
diaboliqwarfaren, use /640 to scan for the first instance of 640x480 (maybe a warning)02:44
diaboliqwhen you do 'more Xorg.0.log'02:44
warfarenyou want me to grep for "640" in the log?02:44
Renzatichey everyone, I've got a good, but likely simple and easily solved question to ask if you've got the time02:44
Renzatic...and I'm beginning to think it's something else02:44
warfaren[  1965.393] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "LVDS-0:nvidia-auto-select{ViewPortIn=640x480,ViewPortOut=1600x1200+160+0}"02:45
warfaren[  1968.266] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Specified panning domain width of 640 is smaller than viewport02:45
warfaren[  1977.413] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Specified panning domain width of 640 is smaller than viewport02:45
diaboliqwarfaren, whats the line in xorg look like, the metamode02:47
Renzaticokay...I'll go ahead and toss it out here in the hopes that someone answers. First off, I'm a complete Linux newbie, so, please, have patience with me02:47
OerHekswarfaren, 1920x1200 , look at this metacode  >>> "metamodes" "DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1024x768 +0+0; DF    >>>>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/224776/how-do-i-rotate-my-monitor-using-xorg02:47
OerHeksso try  1280x1024_60 or: 1280x960 or the last one should work, 1024x76802:47
Renzaticat first I thought it was mouse lag, but from typing on here, it seems my entire computer is freezing for a few seconds at random02:47
warfarenyeah we were looking at that.. sorry i just didnt fully understand it02:47
warfarendiaboliq:     Option         "metamodes" "1280x800@1920x1200 +0+0"02:48
warfarenthat right?02:48
diaboliqyes...but wrong by its standard02:48
warfarenso lets try what Oer is suggesting.. what do i do? i looked at the link too02:48
warfarenOerHeks: why should i try the resolutions you suggest though? aren't they 4:3? my screen is 16:1002:49
diaboliqwarfaren, is this the actual laptop display?02:49
warfarendiaboliq: how do i know?02:49
diaboliqi mean no cable, this is physically the attached screen on a laptop?02:50
Renzaticokay, something is pegging my CPU at 100%, but my process monitor isn't showing what02:52
warfarenRenzatic: if you run top , what's the uppermost process?02:53
Renzaticokay, explain it to me like I'm 12 here. I'm assuming that's a terminal command, so how do I access it?02:53
warfarenRenzatic: yeah that's all. you run a terminal, type top and press enter02:54
warfarenyou'll get a list of the processes running, sorted with the most cpu intensive at the top02:54
Renzaticsyslog is what's eating all my cycles02:54
warfarenunder the white bold line02:54
Renzatic108.7 as of typing02:55
warfarensee the %CPU column? is it giving you a high value under that?02:55
Renzaticit's eating all of CPU1, and some of 202:55
Renzaticand the problem just randomly started after a reboot02:55
warfarenwell, there you have it i guess.. need to investigate syslog02:55
Renzaticand what exactly is syslog? What does it do?02:55
diaboliqwarfaren, heres the thing02:55
Renzaticwait, one thing I did notice...02:55
warfarenit's the program that produces your logs02:56
Renzaticit brought up some random info on boot about not being able to fully utilize my integrated NIC02:56
diaboliqRenzatic, go do top first andnot get distracted02:56
warfarenhm i guess you could look under /var/log and see if you have some rapdily growing files there02:57
warfarendiaboliq: i think he did02:57
Renzaticyup, I'm in here now02:57
Renzaticsyslog is only occasionally topped by root02:57
Renzaticroot constantly spikes, jumping between 7 and 65%02:57
diaboliqRenzatic, look for process names on the right02:58
Renzaticsyslog will occasionally drop down to 40, but never lower02:58
Renzaticxorg and rsyslogd02:58
diaboliqyou're looking at the who, not as important02:58
warfarenyeah.. if you do du -h /var/log/syslog a few times (press up arrow to bring back previous command) you'll see the file sizes and if some of them keeps increasing a lot that could be intesreting02:58
Renzatick, let me check that out02:58
warfareni mean if it's a log proccess going crazy it should write a lot of logs, right?02:59
diaboliqor the size as it adds records02:59
Renzaticran it about 10 times, grew from 433 to 434 M (I'm assuming megs)02:59
Renzaticnow at 436, so it's slowly growing02:59
warfarenyeah. that's just one meg.. but that sounds like one huge log file02:59
warfarenyeah that's not slowly for a log03:00
Renzaticso what would be causing it?03:00
warfarenif you're growing a few megabytes in a few seconds in a log file sometihng's horribly wrong03:00
Renzaticthe only big changes I've made to my machine was experimenting with a few docks03:00
warfarenwhat's the big log called?03:00
RenzaticCairo and Docky, which I immediately uninstalled and purged03:00
diaboliqgoto the bottom Renzatic of the log see what it says03:00
RenzaticI assume I open up syslog?03:01
Renzatichow would I do that from the terminal?03:01
Renzaticremember, I'm a newbie. I'm somewhat lost here :P03:01
warfarenin the output from that command (du -h /var/log ) one of the files you saw there was large right?03:02
Renzaticit just gave me a number03:02
warfarenhm oh yeah it doesnt list the files maybe.. sorry03:02
warfarenyeah it should, and give you the totals at the bottom03:02
Renzaticjust to clarify, the command is "du -h /var/log/syslog" correct?03:02
warfarenoh yeah i messed up sorry03:03
warfarenwell then we know what file it is03:03
Renzatic452 meg as of right now03:03
warfarenso i found the right file right away. haha03:03
warfarenanyway. do: cat /var/log/syslog03:03
warfarenno wait03:03
warfarendo tail -50 /var/log/syslog03:03
diaboliqtail is right03:04
warfarenyeah if you did cat like i said first, press ctrl+c to make it stop03:04
Renzaticgave me a log list of hix numbers03:04
Renzaticer hex03:04
warfarenit will take you hours if it's several hundred megs03:04
SonikkuAmericacat tails O.o XD03:04
Renzatichere's the last entry03:04
SonikkuAmericaBut yeah, that's the way it's done03:04
RenzaticApr 12 23:04:16 Matt1 kernel: [ 2045.638970] tulip 0000:04:06.0: eth1: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed (CSR5 0xffffffff CSR6 0xffffffff)03:04
warfarenis that the message you're getting over and over?03:05
SonikkuAmericaexit status 255 for both03:05
warfaren(that message being spammed in the log)?03:05
SonikkuAmerica*excuse me, not 255, much bigger03:05
Renzaticlooks like it, some of the numbers do change, like the string after 2045.xxxxx03:05
warfarenyeah not 8bit :P03:05
SonikkuAmericaThe correct number is -103:06
warfarenyeah that's 32 bits of 1's03:06
SonikkuAmericaBlame my digital logic design training.03:06
nurowsorry if someone answered this already, I missed it:  for Intel 64 bit (i7), which OS image do I use? AMD64?03:06
diaboliqrather than your upbringing03:07
warfarenRenzatic: okay well you were right about what you said before.. it should be related to your nic03:07
warfarenRenzatic: "eth1" in there is your NIC03:07
Morpheausnurow, either amd64 or i38603:07
Renzaticso assuming it is, unplugging it and disabling it should stop my log file from growing, correct?03:07
Morpheausnurow, how much RAM do you have on the machine?03:07
warfarennurow: yeah i answered that before. let me paste it again03:07
warfarennurow: it's only called AMD64 because AMD invented the 64 bit extension for the x86 architecture, it's sometimes also called x86-64 ... but intel uses the same thing too03:07
warfarennurow: so the answer is yes03:08
nurowawesome, thanks warfaren03:08
MarkPit@nurow yes03:08
warfarenyeah amd64 if you want 64 bit and i386 if you want 32bit03:08
Renzaticokay, I'm gonna disconnect and see what happens. I've got a spare nic lying around, so I'll pop it in and see what happens03:08
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Renzaticwish me luck everyone03:08
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warfarenyeah good luck :)03:08
diaboliqhow will he connect...03:09
warfarendiaboliq: okay so you were about to say something before we were helping him03:10
warfaren[04:55:51] < diaboliq> warfaren, heres the thing03:11
diaboliqhere's the deal...the laptop can only do certain rez03:11
SonikkuAmericadiaboliq: Is it like mine where 1024x768 is the highest it can go03:11
warfarenyeah, the rest is done by scaling by the driver or something, right?03:11
diaboliqhis is way too high03:11
dabarwilornel: Hello.03:11
diaboliqwarfaren, not really03:11
GinTonichello,can somebody give a 'invitation code' about http://chdbits.org ,thanks a lot03:11
wilornelhey dabar03:12
diaboliqwarfaren, and when it shrinks down it skipped the rez you want03:12
wilorneldabar: I dont even know what to ask...03:12
dabarwilornel: I know what you need though, likely03:12
warfarenwell like i said back when i was running 10.04 (hours ago really) i was using all sorts of resolutions, 1280x800, 1680x1050 and more03:12
wilorneldabar: I dont see where the problem is03:12
dabarwilornel: so, you want to enable mod_rewrite on your local machine?03:12
dabarTo start...03:13
diaboliqwarfaren, anything in between sort of 'breaks' the screen or has been made physically impossible03:13
dabarwilornel: which is an ubuntu machine03:13
GinTonichello,can somebody give a 'invitation code' about http://chdbits.org ,thanks a lot03:13
dabarwilornel: revert changes to httpd.conf03:13
warfarendiaboliq: breaks? sounds scary.. physically breaks?03:13
wilornelthere is no such file on ubuntu03:13
dabarOK, apache2.conf03:13
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dabarI forget03:13
dabarwilornel: sudo a2enmod rewrite; sudo service apache2 restart03:14
dabarDo that after you revert your changes.03:14
machy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas03:15
diaboliqwith this driver picking up what the screen is capable of it starts rejecting the in-between rez03:15
diaboliqwarfaren, ^03:15
wilorneldabar: done03:15
dabarAllowOverride All in your vhosts file?03:16
wilornelthis is not recommended03:16
warfarendiaboliq: okay so i'm gonna try the 12.04 live cd i have now and see if that gets me anywhere.. be back later...03:16
warfarenbut thanks for all your help03:16
diaboliqyou're welcome03:16
dabarwilornel: does your web directory have ability to use .htaccess?03:16
diaboliqgood luck warfaren03:16
dabarwilornel: OK, that's how I do that, but OK.03:16
machy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas03:17
dabarI'll look into why it's not recommended at some pooint perhaps...03:17
dabarIn .htaccess, put RewriteEngine On03:17
dabarwilornel: I guess put a RewriteRule . inexistent-file.html [L]03:18
dabarOr something to test...03:18
dabarAfter RewriteEngine On03:18
wilornelwith pleasure03:19
dabarI'd say if it didn't complain after adding that RewriteEngine On, you're fairly sure it worked really.03:19
wilornelwell it did complain...03:19
dabarWhat did it say?03:19
wilornelWell if I try to access a /public/docs instead of /public/index.php/docs, it will throw a 40403:20
wilornelWhat is that rule you just told me about supposed to do?03:20
dabarwilornel: that's different03:20
dabarMaybe give you a 40403:20
wilornelindeed it does03:20
dabarI'm just trying to confirm mod_rewrite is now on03:20
dabarcan you ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled03:20
dabarSee whether rewrite.load is there03:21
dabaror rewrite.something, not sure03:21
wilornelrewrite.load is in there03:21
dabarOK, perf.03:21
dabarSo you just want a rule that does something...03:21
dabarisn't the specific rule documented on the laravel site>03:21
wilornelYes they give it to us03:22
hungryman2Anyone able to help me out?03:22
dabarSo remove the code I gave you, put the code they want03:22
dabarSee whether it is all dandy now03:22
wilorneldabar: Still giving me 404..03:22
machy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas03:22
Ari-Yangso I'd like to ask again, what's the advantage of disabling 'Undredirect Fullscreen Windows' in the compizconfig settings manager?03:22
dabarwilornel: OK, at this point I need to know exact .htaccess content and the URL03:22
dabarwilornel: hopefully you're familiar with pastebins.03:23
wilornelhttp://laravel.com/docs/install#cleaner-urls first one03:23
dabarFirst makes total sense for what you're talking about03:23
wilornelthe url is home.dev/public/docs. It would do the same as home.dev/public/index.php/docs03:23
wilornelIt should* do03:24
dabarIs that actually the exact content of your .htaccess? nothing else in it?03:24
dabarAnd you access your URLs with the public dir in them>03:24
dabarShouldn't public be your webroot?03:24
wilornelI have a /var/www/public. Im hosting other files in other folders03:25
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dabarMy guess public in laravel is same as in rails...03:25
wilornelmust be03:25
dabari.e. should be the webroot03:25
dabarIs it not?03:25
dabarI mean, I don't really care...03:25
wilornelIt doesnt HAVE to be03:25
wilornelit can be03:25
dabarYeah, OK, you do understand the reasoning there?03:25
urlwolfmy virtualbox guest additions fail to build on 12.0403:26
dabarLike other files should not be web accessible.03:26
wilornelin the rewrite tule?03:26
urlwolfis this a known problem?03:26
dabarthe rewrite rule I can probably help you adjust...03:26
Renzatichey, if everyone who helped me is still in here, thanks. I got it sorted out.03:26
dabarJust trying to I guess confirm you understand you have the wrong webroot03:26
wilorneldabar: Nah it's fine I'm not allowing anyone else than me into the webroot03:27
wilorneldabar: I know how it works03:27
wilorneldabar: I have like /var/www/project203:27
wilornelim separating my projects into different folders03:27
dabarThis might be OK: http://pastebin.com/as8HxhBv03:27
dabarTry that03:27
dabarI'll probably be surprised if it does not do what you want.03:27
dabarWhere is that .htaccess file again?03:28
dabarInside public?03:28
wilornelthat htaccess doesnt work03:28
wilornelI think the mod_rewrite module isnt loaded03:28
dabartry a2<tab><tab> on the command line03:29
dabarSee what tools you have available03:29
dabarmaybe there is something that lets you see what modules are enabled03:29
dabarwilornel: usually the way I test stuff like that.......03:31
wilornela2enmod shows many options03:31
dabarwilornel: in .htaccess, if you put garbage, you get a 50003:31
dabarlike 'adfsdfad'03:31
dabarcode inside <IfModule …> blocks executes only if the module is actually enabled.03:32
wilorneloh! a2dismod | grep rewrite: rewrite, means rewrite is loaded03:32
dabarSo putting the garbage outside, confirming that 500s, then putting it inside the <IfModule> block confirming it 500s basically means it is loaded03:32
dabarindex.php is inside /public?03:32
wilornelwow this is really ***, I put asdlkjas into IfModule mod_rewrite, it still shows me a 404, not 50003:33
wilornelindex.php is inside /public, yes03:33
dabarWhat if you put that outside of the ifmodule?03:33
wilornel404 not found03:33
wilornelalright then the htaccess is not even consulted03:34
dabarThat's right03:34
dabarWhat do you have for AllowOverride?03:34
dabarI mean, let me know whether you need help with that or what03:35
wilornelIt's None03:35
wilornelyou said you have "All"03:35
wilornelill try that03:35
wilornelthats in httpd.conf?03:35
dabarYou can do AllowOverride FileInfo03:36
dabar"it appears" http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride03:36
macfor slovenia?03:37
dabarWhen you change that, you need to sudo service apache2 restart03:37
wilornelI did "all" and it still doesnt work...03:37
macwtSmoke is woeid?03:37
wilornelD :03:37
wilornelWoohoo! When I wrte aslkjalskdj in htaccess, I get 50003:38
wilornelalso in the ifModule03:38
dabarOK, then just the rewrite rule polishing is left03:38
dabarTry what they have.03:38
dabarI doubt it will work03:38
dabarI think my version will however.03:38
dabarGood call on voicing that you think mod_rewrite is not on etc.03:39
macwoeid for slovenia?03:40
wilorneldabar: thanks for the "good call"03:40
yigalBefore the tablet version is passed alphaa/beta does anyone know if there are a set of available tweaks to make Ubuntu work reasonably well on a small, in this case 5", screen?  If so where can I go for more info?03:40
wilorneldabar: And THAANKS for the help! :)03:40
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dabarYa, that helped us get it done way sooner. OK, you're welcome.03:40
dabarHappy hacking :)03:40
wilornelso what were the steps? a2enmod rewrite03:40
wilornelwe gotta conclude03:40
wilornelAllowOverride FileInfo03:40
dabarsudo service apache2 restart03:41
wilornelthats all?03:41
dabarThen the appropriate .htaccess invocation03:41
dabarI believe so03:41
wilornelseems like it03:41
wilornelwell thanks! :)03:41
dabarI've done that stuff a million times :) How do you like laravel?03:41
dabarI'm also a PHP programmer...03:42
dabarHaven't used that yet though...03:42
dabarI use WordPress for most projects these days.03:42
wilorneldabar: Oh so far i find Laravel's structure is too fragmented for me03:42
wilorneldabar: I've never used wordpress03:42
dabarWhat are you more used to?03:42
wilornelIt's a cms, isn't it?03:43
wilorneldabar: I just use php.03:43
wilornelI've been using php for about 2 years but didnt dive into frameworks03:43
dabarAh, I see.03:43
wilorneldabar: How long, the php?03:43
dabarYeah, I've been using PHP for about 6. Did a number of frameworks a bit, but basically make WordPress sites now.03:44
wilorneldabar: For clients?03:44
dabarI've been working on websites for random clients at work and in spare time for about 2 years.03:44
dabarI mostly make stuff for my employer these days.03:44
dabarContent-based websites for farming publications.03:45
wilorneldabar: I see. You code in other languages?03:45
dabarI can program in anything, I believe.03:45
wilornelfrom Canada aswell03:45
dabarOh ya. I've programmed Ruby at work...03:45
dabarObviously JavaScript03:45
dabarA little bit of Python. That's about it.03:46
Morpheaustry f# - very interesting language03:46
wilorneldabar: but yeah as soon as you get the hang of a couple of languages, it becomes easier with the others03:46
dabarYes, but no doubt previous experience is king...03:47
wilornelMorpheaus: Pros and cons of f#?03:47
wilorneldabar: But why did he move us to #ubuntu ?03:47
wilornelI mean, we couldve done the a2enmod in some apache files too03:48
wilornelI guess03:48
Morpheauswilornel, it's a functional programming language as opposed to an imperative language03:49
dabarwilornel: you're asking why thumbs sent you here?03:50
wilorneldabar: yes. It seems to me that this kind of problem should be possible to solve on any platform, not ubuntu/debian only03:51
dabarwilornel: you're not familiar with the fact that debian vastly modifies the httpd configuration and tools03:52
dabarLike, changes the way a sys admin interacts with apache vastly03:52
dabare.g. apache is nothing. it's httpd03:52
dabar"on any sane platform"03:52
dabarThat's thumbs saying that03:52
dabaretc. it's just that different. He never bothered to learn what debian does with httpd/apache203:53
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dabarCause "it's wrong"03:53
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dabarAm I answering that in a way you can grasp?03:53
wilorneldabar: yeah03:53
dabarLike he just can't even help you, and it annoys him that debian did what they did.03:54
wilornelWhy is it wrong?03:54
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dabarWhy diverge from the standard?03:54
wilornelI see03:54
dabarI don't know why either, but I'd guess that's the answer.03:54
yigalit's not a standard it's just redhat03:54
dabarBut from debian's point of view, they likely had a reason.03:54
dabarOr perhaps what yigal says is true.03:55
ros_im having screen tearing after updating 12.10. I do have hybrid graphics. do you think thats the reason? i dont know which gpu im using03:55
dabarThat debian just did what they did, then never bothered to converge with redhat.03:55
yigalthey shouldn't have to converge imo03:55
dabarwilornel: in other words, I don't know, I'm just guessing03:55
wilorneldabar: I know I know03:56
yigalI work in an environment that deals with both03:56
yigaljust slightly different naming conventions debian -> ssh, rh -> sshd, etc03:56
dabaryigal: but you do sometimes go to #httpd and feel the love?03:56
yigaldabar: not hating here03:56
dabarI mean, thumbs is probably my #1 freenode idol, but he certainly don't take kindly to people calling httpd apache203:57
wilorneldabar: He's very responsive. You ask him, he answers.03:57
dabarHe is an IRC God :)03:58
wilornelI mean that he wont give you more than you ask03:58
wilornelI bet he is a pretty nice user03:58
dabarHe knows everything03:58
dabarAnd he is always on03:58
dabarAnd he knows the IRC lore of how to answer03:58
dabarANyway, I won't write an ode to him here, but he is amazing.03:58
dabarAnyway, totally offtopic, though the channel is uncharacteristically dead....03:59
ros_can you help me guys? haha03:59
wilornelros_ needed some help03:59
wilornelvoila :P03:59
ros_yeah haha03:59
wilornelsooo you're saying the display is fragmented?03:59
* dabar is not touching that with a pole of any length04:00
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ros_and this happened after the update04:00
wilornelAlright, what is your graphic's card?04:00
ros_wilorel: have have a integrated intel hd300 and a dedicated ati 6700robson muxless04:01
wilornelhere: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx & here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx04:03
wilornelI had a problem with graphics too, you just need the software corresponding to the graphic's card and it'll configure everything04:03
wilornelI downloaded AMD catalyst controller. I have an ATI graphics card04:04
ros_<wilornel> and the intel?04:04
wilornelI gave you the link04:05
ros_wilornel: im downloading the intel first. but i thought it is somewhat available on ubuntu after install?04:08
wilornelros_: I dont have an intel graphics card, but I dont think that ubuntu takes care of the drivers, you have to install them by yourself ( well that's what I always did )04:09
ToPhEr0613Im running an intel mobile 4 graphics card and ubuntu installed graphics drivers automatically in 12.10...just fyi04:10
ros_wilornel: the last time i tried installing catalyst for ATI, it didnt recognize my ati04:11
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wilornelros_: Well that's weird.04:11
ros_i think im just running my intel. but observing my battery consumption, i believe that ati is running, too04:11
wilornelYou have an usual setup, two gaphics cards from two different companies04:11
ros_yeah, this is a laptop haha04:12
wilorneland well linux is not very good on graphics. It still has problems with nvidia04:12
wilornelReally? In a laptop? :o04:12
wilornelDo you plan on playing video games or making 3d models?04:12
ros_yes. i bought it for vidyas some time ago, but then i got bored or whatever, i just switched to linux. i wanted to use linux ever since but got scared of the cli's04:13
ros_in windows, the intel is my main gpu. and whenever i play vidyas, i would dedicate all the ati resources in that game.04:15
ros_but here, i believe i can just use intel right?04:15
ros_i have to figure out a way to shut off my ati04:16
wilorneldevelopers usualy dont port games to linux. Linus is usualy used to develop software04:16
wilornelWell... I have no idea how to stop giving power to a graphics card...04:17
wilornelmaybe a professional could assist you here tomorrow04:17
ros_yeah up to now, i  dont understand how the hell did i finished uni using windows04:18
hungryman3anyone available to help?04:19
ros_okay thanks, ill drop bu tommorow. thank you wilornel. IRC people is very kind and helpful04:19
wilornelros_ : did what I could :) see ya04:19
wilornelhungryman3: What's up?04:19
hungryman3Having a pretty serious issue. I can't get Unity to work. Just upgraded to 13.04, and everything was all wella nd good... and then I tried to install ATI closed source drivers. broke everything. Fine, no problem, I went back to OSS Radeon graphics... and now Unity won't work at all. Reinstalled those OSS graphics, still can't get Unity to pop up. If I type in "Unity" to terminal it'll run, but without my settings saved.04:20
wilornelmaybe try "man Unity"04:22
wilornelthere you could make a search "/settings" or "/configurations"04:22
johnjohn1011if my brother is on 10.04LTS  and support ends in May what is the upgrade path he needs to take?04:22
hungryman3Yeah I've tried other unity command lines but I can't get it to start up/ work properly. IDK if it's a Unity issue, or if it's a graphics issue. I suspect my graphics configuration is screwed up.04:23
wilornelactually ._. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=upgrade+ubuntu04:23
wilornelhungryman3: Im sorry I dont know the solution :(04:24
hungryman3@ johnjohn1011 , I would imagine "updata-manager -d" is all you need.04:24
johnjohn1011will i be able to put him on 12.04 without every version in between?04:24
wilornelyeah why would it have to go through every version04:25
wilornelubuntu handles the upgrade "path" I think04:25
johnjohn1011at least he has the latest firefox on that computer.  it's really the only app he uses04:26
wilorneljohjohn1011: Is it a good computer?04:26
johnjohn1011its a dual core with the am3 240 cpu and 2 gb memory04:28
wilornelWell if it's too old, you might want to take a look at jolicloud. It's a distro used to browse the web04:29
wilornelhi mouse04:29
mouseofthesteppewhat is the command to find if my ubuntu install is encrypted?04:30
bhaveshis it possible in any way that I can install apps in ubuntu without root access?04:31
jackwI want 13.04 so bad04:31
jackwthere is a number of new features04:31
johnjohn1011jackw: less than two weeks. why not load it now.04:32
wilornelbhavesh: sudo apt-get install04:32
bhaveshits a college lab computer where I don't have root access.. so I cannot use sudo, wilornel04:32
wilornelmouseofthesteppe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153063904:32
IdleOnebhavesh: no. ask the admins to install what you need.04:32
wilornelbhavesh: IdleOne is right04:33
wilorneloh I think I know of a way04:33
wilornelyou could curl or wget the files04:33
wilornelusually after this you can "make"04:33
bhaveshwithout sudo?04:34
wilorneland somehow you can install, I cant remember the procedure04:34
bhaveshwilornel: ill try.04:34
johnjohn1011assuming that autoconf, gcc, make are all on the computer.  he could do that04:34
bhaveshwell probably the college lab computers don't have make tools04:34
wilornelwhich autoconf04:35
wilornelwhich gcc, which make04:35
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wilornelif there is an output, the commands are there04:35
wilornelwell a positive output04:35
johnjohn1011then you can prefix it to a directory you have write access to and then you have to make sure your paths point to the correct lib directories.04:35
bhaveshwilornel: gcc and make are installed, autoconf isn't04:35
IdleOneseeing how this is a lab computer I doubt anything you try to install will be saved. Please don't break the rules and ask the admins.04:36
wilornelbhavesh: YOLO04:37
wilornelbhavesh: install!04:37
yigalhe will also need to have the home partition with exec priviliges04:37
bhaveshIdleOne: I asked them, they rejected. In our lab, we all have our accounts on a server, which we access from both windows and ubuntu. But ubuntu is installed in both labs (the one with internet access) and windows in some.04:37
yigalif that isn't there it wouldn't matter if he made an executable, because it couldn't be used04:37
johnjohn1011could he not put the programs on a usb drive and run off of that?04:38
bhaveshis installed in all* labs , IdleOne04:38
bhaveshjohnjohn1011: I can?04:38
IdleOnebhavesh: in that case, you can't. Please stop asking.04:38
kriskropdi'm trying to get audio to work on my ubuntu netinstall of 12.10 http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU - it worked with a normal livecd using pulseaudio and alsa and kernel version 17, but on the netinstall with version 27 kernel it doesn't work :/04:38
wilornelim out04:38
wilornelgood night all04:38
bhaveshgood night04:38
IdleOnejohnjohn1011: the machines are probably not set to boot from USB anyway.04:39
johnjohn1011i'm not familiar with how they lock down lab machines.04:40
bhaveshIdleOne: I booted Ubuntu 12.10 from USB last time. :)04:40
IdleOne!USB | bhavesh see the persistent link04:41
ubottubhavesh see the persistent link: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent04:41
IdleOnethat is about as far as I will help you to circumvent your schools restrictions.04:41
bhaveshIdleOne: lol, ty.04:41
Kim2Sunghow do i block obama from refreshing my amabasady website04:41
johnjohn1011bhavesh, it must be rough not to have your own computer.04:42
IdleOnejohnjohn1011: keep it support related only in here please. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic04:43
kriskropddoeas anybody know why ICH5 A1981B audio device might not work in ubuntu 12.10 netinstall when it works in 12.10 livecd?04:44
jackwUbuntu should package Steam by default04:45
jackwSteam is awesome04:45
moyam01i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing04:46
kriskropdsteam just came out of beta a few weeks ago - I wouldn'tbe surprised if it did get included in 13.04 or something04:46
johnjohn1011is steam officially supported by ubuntu?04:46
aeon-ltdkriskropd: did you check basic stuff like is the  source good, is it muted, does the hardware work etc?04:46
kriskropdjohnjohn1011: no, but steam is specifically targetting ubuntu - canonical would be nuts not to take advantage of it04:46
kriskropdaeon-ltd: yes i did - check pastebin above ....  http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU04:47
aeon-ltdkriskropd: is it the only output in alsamixer?04:48
kriskropdthe livedisk has kernel 3.5.7 version 17 and my netinstall has 3.5.7 version 27. I have to manually run the pulseaudio start and log command, but it should work04:48
kriskropdaeon-ltd: every output is unmuted and maximized - the real problem though is everything treats it as a dummy device like pulseaudio isn't running at all04:49
kriskropdi can access alsamixer only as root or a user in group 'audio'04:50
kriskropdneither of which is ideal or convenient even04:50
kriskropdthe only reason i have to start /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --target-log=syslog myself is because i log in using sulogin and run startx to a dwm environment04:51
kriskropdlightdm seems to cause a memory leak for some reason04:52
kriskropdthe actual error I get when trying to run alsamixer as non-root or non'audio' grouped user is 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory04:54
mladouxkriskropd, sudo useradd -G audio username04:56
mladouxlogout, log back in04:56
mladouxthen try it.04:56
kriskropdmladoux: the problem with that solution is users in audio group work differently now when pulseaudio is introduced04:57
kriskropdmladoux: I have tried it and while it does grant mea ccess to alsamixer, no applications will produce audio still04:57
kriskropdme access*04:57
mladouxkriskropd, sudo useradd -G pulseaudio username04:59
mladouxtry that04:59
mladouxI think they add another group.04:59
kriskropdiirc its for the pulse service user, but i haven't tried it yet so i will04:59
kriskropdno such group on my machine :/04:59
mladouxit's worth a shot anyway, worst case scenario, you're right where you left off.04:59
mladouxit might just be pulse05:00
kriskropdi have to wonder if pulse audio is setup properly at all on here05:00
mladouxkriskropd, that I can not say.05:00
kriskropdit was pulse, rebooting05:00
mladouxyou shouldn't need to reboot.05:00
kriskropdtoo late :P05:00
mladouxlog out and log in should fix it.05:00
mladouxoh well05:00
mladouxsame result05:00
mladouxit'll either work, or it won't05:00
mladouxI'm not an audio guru, but this sounds like a permissions issue, so it was worth a shot.05:01
kriskropdassuming the livecd ubuntu user didnt need either audio or pulse groups to work would suggest to me that this won't work05:01
mindbender1how can I add a user that looks like that of the postgres user i.e doesn't appear on the login screen?05:01
mladouxkriskropd, I have no idea.05:01
mladouxanyway, it's better than nothing.05:01
kriskropdmladoux: yeah, didn't work, ty for idea though05:02
johnjohn1011i just received an excel file that libre office will not open.05:02
mladouxI've never had your issue, so I'm not sure what else to try.05:02
mladouxkriskropd, no worries.05:02
johnjohn1011is there anyway to know if libreoffice 4.0 will open it without having to install it?05:04
kriskropdjohnjohn1011: not being a microsoft office specialist or anything, I would expect the file format is one of those special proprietary formats that microsoft likes and most user's don't - see if you can find an online converter from whatever format that file is to .xls05:05
johnjohn1011i wonder if it's password protected05:05
kriskropd.xls is still microsoft format, but it is older and more supported and should load just fine in libreoffice05:05
johnjohn1011its .xlsx   i guess i need to investigate.05:05
kriskropdi would try converting it first, some converters ahve webapps that process the conversion on server and just give you a download while im sure there might be actual converters you can download or compile05:06
kriskropdjohnjohn1011: I just foudn this in ubuntu repos 'sudo apt-get install libfreexl1'05:07
kriskropdfound* that might let you load xlsx files into libreoffice05:08
johnjohn1011thanks trying that now05:09
johnjohn1011didnt work05:11
kriskropdjohnjohn1011: then my last suggestion is to try a converter, otherwise I'd assume the file is corrupt or something05:12
kriskropdfor anyone following my issue: despite have pulse audio running, pavucontrol throws "Fatal Error: Unable to conenct to PulseAudio: OK" also noted that vlc threw this message "[0x245a568] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-9woAn4NvXU: Connection refused"05:13
mouseofthesteppeheya ubuntu lovers, does the fstab file in the etc directory under file system always reliably show whether a home directory on that hard drive is encrypted or not?05:14
kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: I don't think so05:14
n1xis there any difference between /etc/crontab and the "sudo su root; crontab -e" ?05:14
mouseofthesteppekriskropd: what's a better way of knowing?05:14
kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: I'm not sure, mine certainly doesn't suggest the home directory is encrypted (single partition install) - I suppose the easiest way is to try access the machine without the correct user and being greeted with an empty home directory05:16
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mouseofthesteppekriskropd: do you mean as guest, recovery mode or i create another user inside ubuntu?05:18
johnjohn1011krskropd: it's password protected05:18
kriskropdn1x: I just tried it on one of my machines - crontab -e as root is not equivalent to /etc/crontab05:18
kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: any, the encrypted home directory is unecnrypted by ecrypt everytime you log in05:18
kriskropdjohnjohn1011: I don't know anything about cracking .xlsx files, sorry I couldn't help more05:19
johnjohn1011ran the excel viewer in wine and it said it's encrypted05:20
mouseofthesteppekriskropd: you mean unencrypted only when i log in as the user i created when i encrypted the home folder?05:20
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kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: thats right; on the disk all the data is stored per user in encrypted formats - or at least thats how it was a few years ago when I last messed around with ubuntu and ecrypt05:21
bushwakerHello everyone05:22
kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: you can see for yourself if you load a livecd and mount your home partition and look inside for yourself05:22
kriskropdcan anyone help me find a guide for installing pulseaudio on ubuntu 12.10 or any linux distro for that matter?05:23
Guest4885hello, i have a first question: i use ubuntu studio and my repositiy shows debianservers and so i cant do any softwareupdates....i am right here in the chat for help or need another?05:24
kriskropdGuest4885: whats the actual error? pastebin.com it if it is too long05:25
mouseofthesteppekriskropd: could i just record my encryption passphrase at command line? wouldn't that prove if it's encrypted?05:25
kriskropdmouseofthesteppe: I'm not sure - tbh I had a hell of a time trying to crack my own ecryptfs after a hard disk ailure so i decided to avoid ecrypt since then05:25
redenginshould efibootmgr commit its changes or do I need to do something else to change boot order?05:26
mouseofthesteppekriskropd: yeah i can sense the feeling you had- i set up a bunch of security steps, read around and realised the chances of my hard drive failing were greater than hard drive inspection05:26
Guest4885there is no error, i cant install new software and no updates, my system is the first install version from october2012 and i cant change anything05:27
TarlokI hear you there,  my linux drive failed today or some part of it and I just reinstalled05:28
kriskropdGuest4885: what happens when you run 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal session? does it spit out errors about something?05:28
Tarlokon the subject of super security has anyone here played with hardened gentoo or gentoo in general?05:29
Guest4885kriskropd: no, runs without problems and no errors05:29
kriskropdGuest4885: then try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' - this updates your system's packages after you run the previous command05:30
ntzrmtthihu777hallo. how do I set a quit message for irc?05:30
ejvTarlok: #gentoo05:30
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: type /quit or05:30
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: it could also be /exit05:31
Guest4885kriskkropd: i tried anything like this, one error if i want install filezilla: W:GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA, W:Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 80]05:31
Guest4885, W:Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 80]05:31
Guest4885, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:31
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: or if you just want to leave this specific room /leave05:31
wilee-nileeGuest4885, You can make repo list here, however I'm assuming the ubuntu studios is basically the regualr ubuntu lists.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/05:31
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: no, that is not what I mean. when someone leaves a channel there is sometimes a custom quit message displayed.05:31
ntzrmtthihu777how do you set that?05:32
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ejvntzrmtthihu777: refer to the documentation for your irc client.05:33
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: idk abotu doing that automatically (should be irc client dependent), but you can leave a message each time like '/quit I have to go'05:33
Guest4885wilee-nilee: thats my problem, every change i do in the reposityfiles are the old if i try install something^05:34
kriskropdGuest4885: the 404 error suggests the source locations in your /etc/apt/sources lead to non-existant locations05:34
wilee-nileeGuest4885, I suspect you are not understanding the whole picture, but hey its your computer. ;)05:35
ntzrmtthihu777ejv: think I got it, can you tell me if it works when I /part /join again?05:36
wilee-nileeGuest4885, Are you running a end of life?05:36
ntzrmtthihu777I would suggest all ignore the command suggested, if it does work05:36
wilee-nileebesides debian sid has got to be wrong05:37
lolcatTHe ubuntu-server iso cant install to raid?05:38
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: i can try it, watch for it05:38
wilee-nileethere is a debian mint I believe, this sound fishy, lol. ;)05:38
kriskropddid it work?05:38
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: did it work?05:39
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: oh, you left when i left XD that was a mission fail05:39
moon`if I want to edit a file on a program I installed like dosbox where do I find where it was installed to?05:39
moon`Used software center to install it :P05:39
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: XD wanna try again?05:39
ntzrmtthihu777moon`: are you using unity?05:39
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: ill stay here, hurry back so we don't stay offtopib too much longer05:39
moon`ntzrmtthihu777: yes05:40
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: no, didnt work05:40
ntzrmtthihu777moon`: search your dash for it.05:40
moon`I need to know where it's installed because I need to edit a configuration file05:41
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: ah, i think I know what it was.05:41
ntzrmtthihu777moon`: locate dosbox will get you all the dosbox stufss05:42
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johnjohn1011does any here have any experience building a .deb package from source?05:42
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: one more time.05:42
ntzrmtthihu777johnjohn1011: yep, checkinstall will be what you need05:42
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: kay05:42
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: yes that worked05:42
moon`ntzrmtthihu777: perfect, thank you05:42
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777:  did you use /leave?05:42
ntzrmtthihu777kriskropd: no, /part05:42
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: came out with double sets of double quotes05:43
ntzrmtthihu777I used /set part_message "FOO" to do it.05:43
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: ""For a good....05:43
ntzrmtthihu777ah, maybe I did not need to include the quotes myself.05:43
kriskropdntzrmtthihu777: ah05:43
* kriskropd coughs05:44
kriskropdback on topic :)05:44
ntzrmtthihu777johnjohn1011: sudo apt-get install checkinstall, then running checkinstall -D make install will build a deb package from source code, assuming you have a working make file.05:45
johnjohn1011i'm going to test it out over the weekend.05:45
TPiazzai have documented a bunch of steps needed to install a set of software we need on a new install of ubuntu 12.10 desktop, some of these steps are interactive, what's the best way to automate this; a .deb, a PPA or something else?05:45
ntzrmtthihu777erm, sudo checkinstall etc05:45
johnjohn1011i needed the newer version of curl which was impossible to do with pkg mgmt via raring repos, so i compiled it locally05:46
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: I find ppa is always the best way to go, so you can get updates as they come. and if you feel you must compile something from source use checkinstall to make it undoable.05:46
johnjohn1011well i have to roll it out to a few computers05:47
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: can one PPA reference another one?05:47
x0auserhi guys is there anyone here ?05:48
johnjohn1011raring repos have too much to upgrade but it compiled and works well with base 12.04 version05:49
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: hmm, not that I am aware of atm, but one package can reference another.05:49
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: oh, you mean a ppa to install everything from the get-go?05:50
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: for example, one step is to install oracle java via this command: add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java05:50
x0auserwhen a window is opened in ubuntu 12.04 , her location is in the top of the left corner ! how can i change it ?05:51
johnjohn1011can i make a repo somewhere out on the net with packages I create?05:51
ntzrmtthihu777johnjohn1011: yup, I have one myself. launchpad.05:52
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: followed by - apt-get update and apt-get install oracle-java6-installer05:52
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: Yeah, I use that one too. if you are looking to do this on a new machine you could easily write a bash script to do it for you.05:52
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: i tried that but not sure about forcing interactive mode for bash script, any thoughts on that?05:54
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: interactive is easy, my best work is an interactive bash script in my ppa05:55
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: anything you can share as an example?05:55
ntzrmtthihu777sure, here:05:56
ntzrmtthihu777  echo"The current directory contains the following .ust"05:56
ntzrmtthihu777  ls*.ust | cut -d\. -f105:56
FloodBot1ntzrmtthihu777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:56
ntzrmtthihu777#Creates a sedscript to convert kana to romaji, cv05:56
omg_sorrymy bad all, I forgot part of the command XD05:57
lolcatIs it impossible to instal ubuntu 12.10 to a raid?05:57
johnjohn1011when you create a package,  does all it do is the "make install"?05:57
omg_sorryTPiazza: for you ^05:58
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:59
wilee-nileelolcat, ^^^^05:59
dimi1982i tried to install ubuntu on my medion pc but the screen freezes at when i get to the langue screen i checked the md5sum it is fine can anyone help me what the problem might be05:59
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: thanks!!!05:59
Frost__have you tried updating?06:00
Frost__@dimi: have you tried updating?06:00
lolcatwilee-nilee: What is fakeraid? Why on earth would I want that? I just want mdadm06:00
wilee-nileelolcat, I have never run raid, thought you might like some info from dah bot. ;)06:01
lolcatwilee-nilee: It tells me to use alternate install06:02
lolcatSome genious removed it...06:02
dimi1982you mean update my bios?06:02
Frost__@dimi: which version are you trying to install?06:02
wilee-nileelolcat, You might look at the mini, a net install, it is the minmal now.06:04
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: no prob, I hope it helps06:06
ntzrmtthihu777ok, huge apology folks, I forgot to pipe that into pastebinit ^^'06:06
Frost__@dimi: Tried 12.04?06:07
ntzrmtthihu777can I wildcard ignore the floodbots? i don't flood usually, I just screwed up that time XD.06:08
AbellA123I have a question about 32 bit Ubuntu on a 64 bit laptop, is it a good idea to do it?06:08
TPiazzai'll take some of ntzrmtthihu777's lashes since the paste was for me.....;-)06:09
ntzrmtthihu777AbellA123: you may as well go for 64 bit if its capable.06:09
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: nah its cool. it was actually not a paste, but a cat into the channel.06:09
AbellA123I have 10.4 lts on the laptop and it doesn't want to upgrade to 12.0406:10
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: i see, still a bit new to irc, kinda dig it06:10
ntzrmtthihu777AbellA123: in-install upgrades are... tricky at best. full wipe and restart is best.06:10
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: kinda like back in the day with dial-up bulletin boards06:11
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: yeah, I meant to execute cat /usr/bin/luct | pastebinit, but forgot the | pastebinit06:11
AbellA123ok another question, is it better to have a wired internet connection or wifi connection to dl the 12.04 64 bit OS06:12
carreraHi everyone!  :)06:12
ntzrmtthihu777TPiazza: one suggestion I would make is to install apt-fast first and use it to install everything else after.06:13
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777, I have the join and leave off I never see them.06:13
carrerawhen will 13.04 be released?  I looked on ubuntu.com but couldn't find anything on it.06:13
dimi1982will try it now thanks06:13
Frost___April 25th06:13
carreraFrost___, thanks!06:13
TPiazzantzrmtthihu777: sweet, didnt know about that06:13
wilee-nileentzrmtthihu777,Doh, I miss read you post I meant for net splits.06:14
Frost___I am using mIRC06:14
Frost___tell me how to register06:14
ntzrmtthihu777yeah, I did not know about it till recently, you will need to enable the ppa, webupd8 has an article06:14
Frost___and, i am unable to connect to any irc06:15
ntzrmtthihu777Frost___: easy. /q nickserv help register will explain.06:15
wilee-nileeFrost___, You can look on gthe web or ask in #freenode06:15
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carreraI have 2 SSDs on my laptop. Can I only RAID with the Ubuntu Server?06:16
vltYou can build a raid with any kind of block device as members: disks, partitions, lvm volumes ...06:21
vlt(too late)06:21
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Frost__Any GPU Driver developers?06:24
bazhangFrost__, This is Ubuntu support try alis06:25
bazhang!alis | Frost__06:25
ubottuFrost__: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*06:25
dimi1982i tried to install 12.4 but same problem it freezes up on me06:28
Frost__@dimi: update your bios06:29
deffragHello! I'm getting error while usual updates and upgrade - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ - can anyone help me understand the problem?06:34
deffragIts around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/06:37
wilee-nileedeffrag, Can you describe your /etc/grub.d/40_custom. modifications.06:40
adym3333how can i disable USB port 2 i am using ubuntu 10.0406:40
wilee-nileedeffrag, Or just how you modified grub overall.06:40
deffragwilee-nilee: Hi. I only modified /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/06:42
wilee-nileedeffrag, I have not had to use that custom boot, I was wondering in general, and I'm not sure of the syntax. If you get no answer here make a thread at the ubuntu forums there are some daily helpers on grub that are up on this. ;)06:44
deffragwilee-nilee: Sure, I'll try that. I never got such errors around grub before and I'm not able to understand the problem ;)06:45
wilee-nileedeffrag, I know that with some OS's they have to be mounted like centos and fedora did at times as well.06:45
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adym3333how can i disable USB port 2 i am using ubuntu 10.0406:50
wilee-nileeadym3333, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185031206:56
jnhghyHi, I have an Ubuntu Natty-11.04 that I want to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 so I did "sudo apt-get update" fallowed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" and then "sudo do-release-upgrade" but at the last command I got: "No new release found", any idea how I can do this upgrade?06:58
bazhang!eolupgrades | jnhghy06:59
ubottujnhghy: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:59
jnhghybazhang: ty07:01
LartzaHow bad idea is it to make install ruby? :)07:07
DaNishhi every one07:09
AraneidaeI'm looking to install lib32stdc++5 ... but I can't find it!07:20
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AraneidaeThere's a libstdc++5 package, but alas it only installs the 64 bit libraries ... where's the 32-bit version gone?07:22
LartzaAraneidae, It serves both http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libstdc++507:24
Lartzabut lib32 where...07:24
sarujiHello, I've been having problems with my /boot being foolish I followed some instructions online without thinking about why I ran "sudo apt-get autoremove"...what have I done and how can I reverse it?07:25
LartzaAraneidae, lib32stdc++6 there doesn't seem to be a 5 version07:25
AraneidaeWell, that's odd: `dpkg -L libstdc++5` gives me: http://sprunge.us/OeBh -- no lib32 there07:25
LartzaAraneidae, Yeah since there only seems to be i386 or amd64 libstdc++507:26
LartzaNo lib32 for amd6407:26
Lartzathere is lib32stdc++6 and lib64stdc++6 only07:26
Lartzasardonyx, What is the problem there?07:27
AraneidaeWell, :i386 would do the trick ... wonder why I can't install that07:27
AraneidaeAm I on quantal?  Bit hazy about these silly names, think I am07:28
root____7hello :)07:28
LartzaAraneidae, You could be on raring too, but it's the same really07:28
LartzaOn this situation07:28
AraneidaeNo, I'm quantal, that's what's in my sources.list07:28
LartzaAraneidae, I doubt you can have both installed without modifying one, sicne they both symlink and have docs07:28
root____7Excuse me, I am kind of new here.. Who must I ask for a big Ubuntu problem? :/07:29
LartzaAraneidae, You would need to make lib32stdc++5 package yourself07:29
Lartzaroot____7, Just ask07:29
AraneidaeWell, I don't need the 64-bit libstdc++5, but there doesn't seem to be an libstdc++5:i386 ...07:29
Lartzasaruji, I meant you :) What is the problem there?07:29
LartzaAraneidae, Since you can't fetch it from a amd64 system I am assuming07:29
LartzaAraneidae, But it does exist, http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/universe/g/gcc-3.3/libstdc++5_3.3.6-25ubuntu1_i386.deb07:30
root____7Well, I have just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and everything is just fine except that when I work for about 30-40 minutes, the mouse, screen, and the whole Ubuntu in general is starting to freeze and the mouse (for example) is moving with like 2 fps07:30
AraneidaeLartza ... I'm confused!  I just ran `apt-get install libstdc++5:i386` and it's installed something!  But `dpkg -L libstdc++5:i836` says not found07:31
LartzaAraneidae, :D07:31
LartzaI am probably more confused thatn you07:31
Lartzaroot____7, Graphics drivers?07:31
Lartzaroot____7, What have you done after install? :)07:31
ntzrmtthihu777root____7: are you logged in as root?07:32
root____7Well, I have downloaded a Linux driver from Nvidia website with ".run" format, but when I double-click on it it just stops responding.. anyway, I have installed some basic stuff like xrdp07:32
sarujiLarsi, my problem was that /boot only had 27meg left and I kept getting error messages about not having enough space to update, so I ran sudo apt-get autoclean and * clean07:32
Lartzaroot____7, Nonono...07:33
ntzrmtthihu777root____7: what Lartza said.07:33
Lartzaroot____7, You crashed your car the moment you got that Nvidia driver07:33
root____7Lartza, the problem appeared before I downloaded it.07:33
Lartzasaruji, How big is your boot? You made the partition yourself?07:33
Lartzaroot____7, Also, what ntzrmtthihu777 said why are you as root?07:34
Lartzaroot____7, Are you on desktop now as root?07:34
jazsomby here07:34
sarujiLarsi, I was able to update my system after clearing out my trash bin but doing a df -h I see that /boot still has only about 27 megs left.  Looking in that directory I see a bunch of vmlinuz.generic and initrd.img files07:34
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root____7I think so, I am working as an Administrator account.07:34
Guest70381cuze me07:34
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: install ubuntu-tweak, it will clean up all your extra kernal images and such07:35
sarujiLartza, I went through the ubuntu 12.10 install using the guided method and ext 407:35
Guest70381is there any  engineer here07:35
Lartzaroot____7, Are you on desktop or tty now?07:35
LartzaGuest70381, Ask don't ask to ask...07:35
sarujintzrmtthihu777, can i remove kernel images from /boot that are old?  Why are all the old ones kept or rather left there?07:35
root____7I am on a desktop, Lartza :)07:35
Lartzaroot____7, Okay, did you use "root" to login to the desktop?07:36
sarujiLartza, also my /boot is 229 meg07:36
Lartzasaruji, That should be plenty then, use ubuntu-tweak then like someone suggested(I haven't used) or check grub what kernel it is using and be sure not to remove that one07:36
LartzaIf manually removing07:36
root____7@Lartza - no, I am logging with account name I have created myself, but at the description of this account says "Administrator".07:37
LartzaYeah that's fine...07:37
sarujiLartza, how can i check what kernel grub is using?07:37
Lartzaroot____7, But why is your irc client root?07:37
Lartzasaruji, Umm...07:37
sarujiLartza, googling07:37
wilee-nileeits the user name07:38
root____7Don't know :D Maybe because I decided to use a terminal IRC client, and I logged in the terminal as SU, so I can install it and then forgot to log out the SU.07:38
auronandaceroot____7: open a terminal, what do you see if you type in: id07:38
Lartzaroot____7, Yeah generally don't run IRC as root... but that resolved now umm07:39
sarujiLartza, how can I automate the process of removing old kernels automatically?  Seems like something is not working, I dont think it was intended to work this way.07:39
root____7uid=1000(miki) gid=1000(miki) groups=1000(miki),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)07:39
Lartzasaruji, Don't know :( They should be removed automatically07:39
Lartzaroot____7, Did you run the Nvidia package as root?07:39
auronandaceroot____7: good, you are your user, thanks07:39
sarujiLartza, is there a way to see a boot log to check the errors?07:39
wilee-nileethe irc client will show the user name as user in the who is07:40
Lartzawilee-nilee, We know, but didn't know WHY it was showing root07:40
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: not a clue about the why, but yeah, ubuntu-tweak will clean them all07:40
sarujintzrmtthihu777, ok thanks07:40
AraneidaeWhere am I going to find a 64-bit libSDL-1.2.so.0?07:41
Lartzasaruji, /var/log/boot.log and dmesg at least :/07:41
sarujintzrmtthihu777, anyway that I could take a look at the startup logs? or any other logs to view?07:41
Lartzadmesg won't probably be much help07:41
Lartzasaruji, Why do you want to see these logs?07:41
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: likely, but I don't know how. I'm not that much of a wizard07:41
Lartzasaruji, I doublt kernels are wiped at boot07:41
root____7Lartza, I don't think so. I tried to run it on the GUI by double-click. Then a GEDIT window appeared and stayed blank for like 5 minutes. When I tried to close it it said "Not Responding", so I don't think I have installed any package at all.07:41
Lartzaroot____7, That is GOOD!07:41
Lartzaroot____7, Have you installed or tried to install anything else without apt-get?07:42
AraneidaeBah.  It's on my system, the stupid program is looking in the wrong place :(07:42
Lartzaroot____7, apt-get install xrdp right? right?? :D07:42
sarujiLartza, because i thought maybe something was breaking at boot...i'm guessing I guess thats why, i want my system to not have problems so I'm just trying to learn and avoid mistakes07:43
root____7Yes, but only user stuff like Skype and Chromium, and again it was on the GUI. Anything I installed from terminal was "apt-get install"07:43
root____7yes, including XRDP :D07:43
Lartzaroot____7, chromium-browser is actually in repos, skype is not, but it's not bad if you don't install stuff as root07:44
Lartzaroot____7, So the freezing, have you tried refreshing the system otherwise than rebooting?07:44
LartzaKilling X for example07:44
LartzaAnd does the problem persist07:44
LartzaAre your tty's also lagging then07:44
sarujiLartza, still trying to figure out which kernel my grub is using?  Any command shortcut you know of?07:45
ntzrmtthihu777uname should, no?07:45
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, Not if he has multiple kernels of the same version07:45
root____7I didn't have the chance, Lartza :( Even if I live long enough to reach anything with the mouse cursor, the click is not recognized. Even if I click non-stop, or make a long press on the mouse button, nothing happens.. The same problem with the keyboard..07:45
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, Doesn't show the name of the actual image being loaded07:45
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: see, not that much of a wizard. :P07:46
sarujintzrmtthihu777, lol its ok, I ran uname and got "linux"07:46
Lartzaroot____7, ctrl+alt+f1 to change to a tty07:46
Lartzasaruji, uname -a ;)07:46
root____7should I do it now? or?07:46
sarujiLartza, sweet thanks07:47
Lartzaroot____7, No, when it starts lagging :)07:47
root____7Ahh, right :)07:47
Lartzasaruji, also like I said earlier /boot/grub/grub.cfg is a config for the menu07:47
Lartzagenerated so edits will be lost, but you can check it07:47
Lartzaroot____7, Now I assume you have upgraded all packages in your system no?07:47
root____7I think so.07:48
Lartzaroot____7, And preferably rebooted after that07:48
ntzrmtthihu777ah, gotta remember the -a.07:48
Lartzaroot____7, If you want 3D accelerated Nvidia drivers, you don't get the Nvidia run file :)07:48
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: you may find inxi of use, its a nifty sysinfo script that gets ya some good info. example:07:48
ntzrmtthihu777CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 240e (-MCP-) clocked at 2800.000 Mhz Kernel~3.2.0-40-generic x86_64 Up~2 days Mem~2044.7/3447.2MB HDD~500.1GB(20.6% used) Procs~212 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.7.3307:48
Lartzaroot____7, See these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=show&redirect=RestrictedDrivers%2FNVIDIA07:48
root____7And the graphic drivers should fix the issue?07:49
Lartzaroot____7, Well... the nouveau driver should work(which is now being used) so no promises :)07:49
Lartzaroot____7, Why were you getting the run in the first place? Windows habits? ;)07:50
sunusleehi, when i use dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -us -uc, can i just build the .deb of that package and omit the dependencise's .deb file?07:50
sarujiok well just used tweak and removed all of my "old kernels"....it was 700+megs, hope i did not break nothing07:50
sarujireally worried right now07:50
Lartzaroot____7, I mean, you were on desktop, resolution was fine, drivers were obviously fine07:50
root____7Kinda :D Just decided to move from Windows to Linux.07:50
root____7Yes, everything looks great07:51
root____7no wrinkles, no shattering, no blurs07:51
Lartzaroot____7, Yeah nouveau works but has no 3D acceleration and some other bells and whistles07:51
sunusleehi, when i use dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -us -uc, can i just build the .deb of that package and omit the dependencise's .deb file?07:51
Lartzaroot____7, Try the restricted drivers, then you can play games :)07:51
Lartzaand it could fix the freezing, who knows :)07:52
zvacetsaruji: why didn´t you remove them from synaptic?  ;)07:52
root____7Right, a thousand thanks for your time, Lartza :))) Is there a way I can contact you again another time?07:52
ntzrmtthihu777saruji: nah, you're cool07:53
Lartzaroot____7, I am idling on IRC 24/7 but not sure how often I am actually here ;)07:53
Lartzaroot____7, So, in IRC07:53
root____7Okay :) Have a nice day, mate, thank you once again :)07:53
Lartzaroot____7, You too, hope there's no freezing :/07:54
Lartzaroot____7, That would most likely make your day less nice :)07:54
Lartzacaem, Sorry?07:54
root____7ahaha yea :D07:54
root____7Ah, crap, could you paste me again the link? I lost it from the screen :///07:55
ntzrmtthihu777root____7: use the page up button, methinks.07:55
arkieHey guys, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm having some trouble installing my printer driver. I'm trying to follow the steps here but they don't seem to work for me. http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn3.html07:56
deffragHello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/ . Can anyone help me understand the problem?07:56
root____7Guess I have to study a little about Linux, eh? :D Thanks07:56
Lartzaroot____7, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia also google "Restricted drivers ubuntu" etc and you will get there :)07:56
arkieI have a Brother HL-2270DW which is a wifi printer on my LAN07:56
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: checkinstall -D make install should build you the deb you need07:56
Lartzaroot____7, You will get there, I've used Linux for years now so :)07:56
Lartzadeffrag, Have you edited /etc/default/grub?07:57
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  sorry ? what u mean?07:57
arkieAnyone know why this command isn't working?07:58
arkieanthony@anthony-UL30VT:~$ dpkg -i --force-all hl2270dwlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.deb07:58
arkiedpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area07:58
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  i mean, i make a foo.deb, but it gives me foo.deb and bar.deb, while bar.deb is a dependcecy of a07:58
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Lartzadeffrag, This is kind of out my knowledge, it is probably not /etc/default/grub07:58
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  but i only want foo.deb and i will make a bar.deb myself07:59
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: do they both have make files?07:59
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  what?07:59
arkieNo one?07:59
Lartzadeffrag, Wait patiently and someone will notice and know hopefully :)07:59
ntzrmtthihu777arkie: gotta run dpkg -i with sudo07:59
arkieThanks ntzrmtthihu77707:59
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  i only apt-get source foo07:59
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: out of curiousity, why not apt-get install foo?08:00
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  i want to modify some code :)08:00
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: ahh, the glory of foss/gnu :D08:00
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  and it might also modify the code of dependcecy , so i just want the .deb of that package, no more08:01
arkieIt still doesn't work ntzrmtthihu777 , but now it says that there is no such file/directory.08:01
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  yeah:)08:01
arkieDo I need to cd to the directory where the .deb is?08:01
ntzrmtthihu777arkie: are you serious? yes, of course you do.08:01
ntzrmtthihu777no matter how hard you try you're not gonna eat a sandwitch in another room from you08:02
LartzaAnyone know ruby? I am trying to run something on it but it suggests to sudo make install 1.9.3 which is not really what should be done :)08:02
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: yeah, I use ruby :D08:02
sunusleeLartza:  try rvm:)08:03
LartzaProblem is the software's init script is probably not aware of the environment I create... mhh08:03
deffragLartza: No, I didn't edit /etc/default/grub. I only remember adding to that 40_custom.save file.08:03
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: honestly I only build debs for things I cant apt-get install, like sfml 2.0 or higan and such.08:03
Lartzadeffrag, pastebin 40_custom.save08:03
ntzrmtthihu777or ruby2.008:04
deffragI did that in my question itself :) Lartza08:04
Lartzadeffrag, Yeah noticed, sorry08:04
deffragHello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/08:04
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: and that's just because its a pita to remove somethink you make installed08:04
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: what is the output of ruby --version?08:05
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, I don't have ruby installed08:05
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, repo's have 1.9.1 no?08:05
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: ah, just apt-get install ruby1.9.308:05
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  i don't want the depencecies's .deb08:05
ntzrmtthihu777sunuslee: yeah, I understand. I just don't know the answer XD08:06
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  :<08:06
sunusleentzrmtthihu777:  i hate manually remove those file.. god08:06
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, repo is p194 and latest is p392, does that matter much? :)08:06
LartzaI am not a Ruby user if you haven't noticed yet ;)08:06
sunusleeLartza:  i don't think that matters08:07
ntzrmtthihu777sorry :( had you downloaded some freaky source code I could tell you, but modding an existing deb is beyond me atm.08:07
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: yeah, unless you08:07
ntzrmtthihu777re going for the bleeding edge 1.9.3 is good enough.08:07
LartzaOkay then, how dirty is installing gems?08:07
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: easy as pie.08:07
ntzrmtthihu777sudo gem install foo08:08
LartzaI mean I had some problems with Perl08:08
LartzaI couldn't REMOVE them easily and not sure where they scattered themselves08:08
LartzaKind of same problems with pip install on python08:08
ntzrmtthihu777locate is a wonderous shell command :D08:08
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, Mhh :)08:08
ntzrmtthihu777Lartza: nah, gem's are easy, for the moste part.08:08
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, Or never remove the gems ;)08:08
LartzaOkay thanks for all this info, I'll go grab some breakfast and then start installing08:09
ntzrmtthihu777unless, again, you need something bleeding edge gems are pretty straight forward.08:09
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, I probably won't, I am installing a stable branch of a software :)08:09
ntzrmtthihu777like for instance the sfml gem is not in the gem repos yet, so you have to rake rake all rake gem gem install it yourself XD08:09
Lartzantzrmtthihu777, gitlab, if you are curious :)08:09
LartzaEverything should be in gem repos since I followed the installation instructions once with a Ruby I compiled myself and sudo make installed08:10
LartzaSo yeah08:10
LartzaBut I'll go eat some breakfast now :)08:10
ntzrmtthihu777and unfortuneatly it does not work with ruby2.0 so I had to fall back till it does08:10
mikihello again :)08:11
ntzrmtthihu777hello :D08:11
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ntzrmtthihu777miki: left to eat some breakfast08:17
ntzrmtthihu777later all, sleepy time (3am)08:17
mikilater :)08:17
kriskropdhey, I'm back, I made progress - using a login manager (in my case, slim) i was able to get pulseaudio and alsa working and can view the pulseaudio volume meter actually moving when i playback something - everything seems to be working, except one problem remains: I don't hear anything XD08:22
LovCAPONEQ: I would like to dig deeper in Linux. Usage/Development (code)/ etc... Any good books to start?08:25
sunusleehow can i use dpkg-buildpackage only build theh .deb i need, and omit the depencecies's .deb file?08:30
she_dyedsa`tan: /part08:34
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/08:37
kriskropdI fixed my audio problem, had to mute "Mix Line Jack" which was for some odd reason taking my output and looping it through to input creating a loop of mute while pulseaudio saw the whole thing and translated it for me using the volume meter08:37
wilee-nileeLovCAPONE, I have seen this posted. http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php08:39
wilee-nileeonly 522 pages, lol08:39
LovCAPONEwilee-nilee: thanks dude08:41
wilee-nileeno problem08:41
jackwwhich is the best release of ubuntu ???? I thing 11.04 and 12.0408:42
bingoRG3 dude08:45
bingoany mathletes here?08:46
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evilkidGood morning08:50
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evilkidis there anyone that can help me with my graphic card problem?08:50
talpurhi friends please see the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704063/   and help to resolve problem08:51
Lartzamiki, I ignored you on my client...08:51
LartzaPrivate messages anyways08:51
Lartzamiki, What graphics card do you have?08:52
mikiNvidia GTS24008:52
Lartzamiki, That uses the latest drivers, follow the instructions and either click the notification or go System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers08:54
talpurhi freinds help me to resolve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704063/08:54
Lartzatalpur, That is not an Ubuntu problem, go to pintool08:55
mikiLartza, I don't have such notification, nor I have Additional Drivers section in System Tools -> Administration08:55
Lartzamiki, Type drivers to the search08:55
Lartzamiki, You have 12.10 right? :)08:56
mikiI do.08:56
Lartzamiki, Then there's a drivers thingi somewhere, search it in shell08:56
Lartzagnome shell that is08:56
jephbhi every,i would like to ask the advice.actually i am using ubuntu 12.10 as operating system, and sometimes it get crashed,but i haven't yet used xubuntu or kubuntu, i was thinking that xubuntu or kubuntu may work perfectly for me but i am not sure if i can do everything i use to do with ubuntu.so i would like to know if there is the big difference in terms of performace of what they can do?08:57
Lartzajephb, All can do everything the other can really08:57
mikinouveau-firmware - Firmware for nVidia graphics cards08:58
mikinvidia-settings - Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver08:58
mikithis is what I find08:58
Lartzajephb, They just use the different desktop environment, Kubuntu can be heavier than Ubuntu, but Xubuntu is lighter08:58
Lartzamiki, No you want to open a window like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=drivers_dialog.png08:58
Lartzajephb, Crashes I doubt would be solved by switching08:59
jephbdo you think i can wait  for the release of 13.04 ?09:00
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Lartzamiki, Failing to do that apt-get install nvidia-current should work too... but there is a drivers install in Ubuntu09:00
mikiI am with the Gnome layout, not Unity, so I can't find it that easy :D I guess I will try the terminal command09:01
Lartzamiki, jockey-gtk should be the gui ran from terminal09:02
LartzaBut nvidia-current is the driver you want/need so either way should work09:03
nabbletmiki use gksudo jockey-gtk09:03
mikiI already did "apt-get install nvidia-current" as you told me09:03
Lartzamiki, I am going to have to go, have to help with some moving09:03
mikiOkay, Lartza, thank you once again and have a nice day, man :)09:03
guest124325I'm trying to install libpq5 via apt-get but it appears that the package forbidden09:04
guest124325help me out?09:04
LartzaNo problem :) You too, I'll be on in the evening but just ask here for any help :)09:04
jephb<Lartza>before ,i have been using ubuntu 10.04 and i was great no crash,every was fine, i have bought a new laptop when install ubuntu 10.04 i missed wireless drivers i decided to install 12.10 i had all drivers but the system was instable.now i wondering if i can install 13.04 or if i can install xubuntu09:04
Lartzajephb, I'd try fixing the instability problems, no reason why they would go away in 13.04 really09:05
LartzaBut like I said, I have to go, good luck with your problems09:06
nabbletjephb, maybe you try debian?09:07
jephbare the commands and software the same?09:07
nabbletjephb, it si pretty close to ubuntu - you will feel at home09:07
nabbletjephb, in fact ubuntu is based on debian09:08
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guest124325I can't install libpq5, it gives me 403 Forbidden error09:10
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:10
nabbletjephb, the installation may not look as fancy as the install of ubuntu - but it is the same basically and you got pretty much all the same packages09:11
bekksguest124325: Then change the mirror selected.09:11
guest124325bekks: okay I will try that09:11
jephblet me google it i will back soon09:12
guest124325bekks: this is a new installation, how do I change the mirror?09:12
bekksguest124325: By configuring another mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list e.g.09:13
repsajGood day, I have a question related to UCK and automount. I would like to disable the automount feature on my new Live CD. To do so I tried to use the command "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false" in the UCK customization tool (terminal). After I made my new LiveUSB this did not work out. After that I tried to put an .sh script into /etc/rc.local with again the...09:13
repsaj...gsettings command. But I got the same result. Anyone an idea how I could fix the problem. I would like to have automount disabled for all media.09:13
guest124325bekks: trying now09:13
AdvoWorkHi there, i'm running Ubuntu 12.10, but i keep having errors such as: System program problem detected..  (that popup) any idea how I can work out whats causing it?09:16
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nabbletAdvoWork, what happens when you click on it09:24
nabbletAdvoWork, apart from that - look at the errormessages in dmesg ann /var/log/syslog09:25
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sunusleehi, can i use grep with two strings? no one string and a file09:39
TantorHello. I'm very unknown to preg_replace, read the manual, but I still don't get it. My goal is to replace a part of a text. This part to replace looks like this:<cs>Here is some text</cs>. My goal is to replace the text and tags as a whole. How should the pattern be? Now I have this: preg_replace('/<cs>(.*)<\/cs>/is', 'Test', $text);09:39
MonkeyDustsunuslee  Tantor better ask in #bash09:41
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TantorOh sorry, this is the ubuntu channel, though I was writing in the php channel. Sorry to bother09:42
l_rhow can i get the version of an installed deb?09:42
MonkeyDustl_r  apt-cache policy09:44
repsajsunuslee you mean "grep string1 | grep string2" or "grep 'string1 string2'"09:45
histosunuslee: grep string filename09:45
sunusleegrep string1 string2, string1 is patten and string2 is target09:45
l_rsomeone must tell me why dpkg -s libusb says that that damn package is not installed althogh i did install it and use it09:45
l_rwhat's the problem with libusb?09:46
sunusleerepsaj: grep string1 string2, string1 is patten and string2 is target09:46
histosunuslee: grep string /some/path/*  works here09:46
sunusleehisto:  i mean, i don't grep a file, just a string09:46
histosunuslee: then what is the target in yoru example?09:46
sunusleehisto:  let's say patten is "asd" , target is "asdlala". it should be matched09:47
repsajsunuslee: how did you defined the string?09:47
histosunuslee: then why wouldn't you just grep for asdlala09:47
sunusleehisto:  what ? i just do that to simple test if a patten can be matched09:48
histosunuslee: yes09:48
histosunuslee: you aren't making any sense. You would just grep asdlala09:48
awestrokeWhen I start my computer (12.10 x64, fglrx, autologin), unity doesn't start, and I can't access other tty's by doing ctrl+shift+f# . I tried starting a term with ctrl+shift+t, but that doesn't work either. What do?09:49
sunusleehisto: so, if i want to test if string 'asdasd' can be matched by patten 'asd'  how?09:49
sunusleethen i echo $? to see the result09:49
histosunuslee: yes it would mathc09:50
histosunuslee: what are you trying to do?  it sounds like you have an XY problem to me.09:50
sunusleehisto:  yeah:( i am tring to fine a way to simple test a patten09:51
sebisebguys if u want a good soccer tips site... try www.onlywinbet.com   they are very good09:51
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histosunuslee: if you grep asd  it would match 'asdlala' or 'asdasd'  because asd is contained within those two results.  This is why I don't understand your question09:52
sunusleehisto:  i know:(09:52
histosunuslee: then what's the problem?09:52
wfzxcvyulwfaqwAnybody have issues with 12.1009:53
sunusleehisto:  i mean, i just try to find a way to test if a patten match a string. because if i want to test patten 'asd*' and string 'asdlala'09:53
histosunuslee: if you want it to only match asd if there is 'asd' and not 'asdlala'  then you would -w09:53
wfzxcvyulwfaqwEncrypted version?09:53
sunusleei can put string 'asdlala' to a file call a09:53
bekks!anyone | wfzxcvyulwfaqw09:54
ubottuwfzxcvyulwfaqw: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.09:54
sunusleethen grep 'asd' a. but i don't want to do that extract work09:54
wfzxcvyulwfaqwVideo Drivers issues09:54
sunusleehisto:  humm, do u know what i mean:)09:54
bekks!details | wfzxcvyulwfaqw09:54
ubottuwfzxcvyulwfaqw: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:54
wfzxcvyulwfaqwWithout encryption all is well09:54
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histosunuslee: No I still don't know what you mean you're not making sense to me.  Maybe you are lookign for egrep to match regular expressions or grep -E regexp09:55
wfzxcvyulwfaqwQuantal, Laptop, Integrated Graphics, Radeon/Inteal by ATI09:55
wfzxcvyulwfaqwUsing Catalyst Control Center...09:55
at-912where to get 13.xx iso?09:55
bekkswfzxcvyulwfaqw: And a full error description, in a full sentence, on one line please.09:55
wfzxcvyulwfaqwDefaults to low graphics mode.09:55
wfzxcvyulwfaqwI don't mind terminal09:55
wfzxcvyulwfaqwBut it gets boring...09:56
bekks!enter | wfzxcvyulwfaqw09:56
ubottuwfzxcvyulwfaqw: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:56
bekkswfzxcvyulwfaqw: Please state your problem in a full sentence on one line so it gets readable after all.09:56
wfzxcvyulwfaqwQuantal+LVM+encryption, Laptop, Integrated Graphics, Radeon/Inteal by ATI     PROBLEM == Defaults to low graphics mode.09:56
sunusleehisto:  sunus@|\/|13p~:/var/lol$ [[ asdlala == asd* ]]; echo $?09:57
sunusleei got what i want, like that above :)09:57
wfzxcvyulwfaqwFREENODE => !helpCENTER09:58
histosunuslee: try your question in #bash09:58
repsajhisto: sunuslee asdlala == *asd* ;-)09:59
x0_devnullare there any alternatives to wpe pro for v12?09:59
historepsaj: I have no idea wth he is trying to do10:00
sunusleerepsaj: thank you!10:00
sunusleehisto:  hahahahha :)10:00
repsajI think its just checking if STRING2 contains a part of STRING110:01
histoat-912: #ubuntu+110:01
x0_devnullyou could use strpos10:01
repsajand like if statements are far better 'readable' ;-)10:01
histosunuslee: I can't understand your english10:01
sunusleerepsaj:  nope :< but it almost right, dont check simple contain, but using regrep10:01
repsajNo command 'regrep' found, did you mean:10:02
sunusleehisto:  here's why i di that, i was writting a script, i want to test some statment, just like interactive environment10:02
histosunuslee: XY problem10:03
bekkssunuslee: Then why dont you finally describe your real problem in detail?10:03
repsajso its slighty more active here than an hour ago10:04
repsajso im gona ask my question again.10:04
repsajrepsajGood day, I have a question related to UCK and automount. I would like to disable the automount feature on my new Live CD. To do so I tried to use the command "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false" in the UCK customization tool (terminal). After I made my new LiveUSB this did not work out. After that I tried to put an .sh script into /etc/rc.local with again the...10:05
repsajrepsaj...gsettings command. But I got the same result. Anyone an idea how I could fix the problem. I would like to have automount disabled for all media.10:05
bekksrepsaj: Whats "UCK"?10:05
repsajUbuntu Costumization Kit (to make Live CD's)10:05
historepsaj: perhaps gnome moved the setting let me do some digging10:07
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ubottuuck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/10:07
bazhangbekks, ^10:07
bekksbazhang: Thanks :)10:07
historepsaj: that key is still there hrm....10:07
repsajyea histo I tought so. What I did I runned my liveCD in virtualbox and I checked the key with gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount. And it returned true. But it should be false.10:08
historepsaj: so the setting is not staying10:09
historepsaj: can you confirm after setting it with gsettings then get it that the value changed?10:10
repsajin UCK I see it changed10:11
repsajso after that I build the .iso and run it trough virtualbox. And in virtualbox it says different than in UCK10:11
historepsaj: are you creating a new user  possibly in the build process?10:12
talpurhi memeber How I check that glibc  installed or not in my ubuntu10:13
historepsaj: well then something in uck is changing the setting10:13
historepsaj: or pulling a setting for a skel file or something gooofy10:14
repsajhisto: is gsettings a setting for a user or is it system wide?10:14
historepsaj: user10:15
repsajthat would mean I must make a user on my new liveCD to disable automount?10:16
historepsaj: what user is on your livecd already?10:16
repsajin UCK there is no user, but it uses the user from the host. When I launch the liveCD it makes the user 'ubuntu'10:17
historepsaj: so make the settings system wide then it should work. With gsettings it would only change the logged in users settings.10:19
historepsaj: believe you willneed to use gconf and dconf10:19
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repsajim gona check that out10:20
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historepsaj: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/10:22
historepsaj: that may not be the "ubuntu" way. I'm not seeing dconf tools installed by default let me keep looking a bit. Now you peeked my interest10:24
repsajyea I see10:24
Abhijithi guys. which is best gpu for day to day professional animation work and also works well on linux?10:27
LinuxHorstany nvdia gpu10:27
repsajhisto: dconf-editor = GUI. But UCK only launches a shell. So we can only use gsettings.10:29
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historepsaj: you can create files and use the dconf command line tool10:31
repsajisnt that gconftool-2 ?10:31
historepsaj: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/lockdown.html.en10:31
historepsaj: and this https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/dconf-profiles.html.en10:32
historepsaj: the later link maybe the one you want for setting default values10:33
historepsaj: rather than locking it down on a multi user system10:33
repsajafter the default value a lock was also on my to do list ;-)10:34
kcfklcfwkCAN you do the CAN-CAN?10:34
histo!ot | kcfklcfwk10:34
ubottukcfklcfwk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:34
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histo!best | Abhijit10:35
ubottuAbhijit: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.10:35
kcfklcfwkIT"S ALL ABOUT LUVZ10:35
kcfklcfwkand LOLZ10:35
kcfklcfwkBon voyage10:35
k1l_kcfklcfwk: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks10:36
Abhijithisto, you sir, have a little confusion here. i hope you know that not all h/w works well on linux10:36
k1l_!hcl | Abhijit10:37
ubottuAbhijit: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection10:37
histoAbhijit: No confusion don't take polls in this channel.10:37
histoAbhijit: Both ATI and Nvidia cards will work in linux. Both companies release proprietary drivers. I would look at which one has better open source drivers perhaps.10:38
Abhijithisto, this is not a poll sir.10:40
repsajhisto: it seems that my live CD only has gconf, not dconf. I am looking further into this.10:41
c2taruncan anyone please help me in changing the default folder for vsftpd? It is /srv/ftp and I want to change it to /home/user/videos10:41
histoAbhijit: then don't ask "which is best" if you are not seeking opinions10:41
Abhijithisto i am asking about facts sir.10:42
historepsaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34490/what-are-the-differences-between-gconf-and-dconf10:42
bekksAbhijit: Facts were linked by giving you the HCL.10:43
Abhijitbekks, thank you very much sir.10:44
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IszakSo I'm setting up a server, has anyone got a list of best practices for setting up a server? security wise.10:51
x0_devnullif it's a webserver, use nginx10:53
MonkeyDustIszak  there's also #ubunt-server10:55
MonkeyDustIszak  there's also #ubuntu-server10:55
Iszakalright thanks10:56
fwucvlwfmpfpthis is DINGUS with ATI VIDEO problem Kase anybody cares: if you're using 12.10 with encrypt+LVM and have certain hardware components which require special commands at boot you may need to modify GRUB or download a few extra SOURCE pkgs (also it helps if you pull your head outta your kester....) toodles ;-P10:56
machello.. what is the packet name for OpenGL 1.2+11:05
macubuntu software center, 12.04 lts11:05
macthose ubuntu 12.04 lts have openGL installed by default?11:07
joppe_I've connected a phone to my server but I can't figure out how to find what port its connected to.. ive looked thro dmesg and I can see its connected with lsusb.. its probarbly like /dev/ttyUSB0 but nothing displays.. where to look?11:13
histomac: what language are you using11:13
histojoppe_: connected how?11:14
histojoppe_: if it's connected via usb lsusb would show you which port11:14
joppe_histo: usb chord11:16
joppe_histo: lsusb doesnt11:16
joppe_histo: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 067b:230311:16
histojoppe_: yes11:17
histojoppe_: That is the port what are you looking for?11:17
shmoonwhat is this ip related to ?11:17
joppe_histo: but what is that in /dev/ttyUSB?11:17
Capprenticeshmoon, its the google dns11:17
shmoonoh got it thanks11:17
histojoppe_: check dmesg11:17
joppe_histo: did that already I said ;/11:18
macmy language aint important.. is OpenGL installed on 12.04 lts ? example: live usb11:26
loxshow can I install proprietary drivers via the terminal?  I mean, I want to do exactly the same that the graphical "Updates and software" application does.11:26
qknightmy server tells me on login that there are 6 security upgrades but apt-get upgrade -s shows that it will not upgrade anything, what could cause this?11:27
qknight*** Neustart des Systems erforderlich *** <- oh, vielleicht deswegen ;-)11:28
MonkeyDustqknight  try apt-get update, first11:28
Myrttiqknight: what does apt-get dist-upgrade say then11:29
macis OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb11:29
maccan please someone tell me, if it is OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb .. is there openGL allready installed?11:30
MonkeyDustmac  guess so, as there are some opengl screensavers11:31
macthank u, MonkeyDust...11:32
macnow.. i dont get it... minecraft says i need openGL 1.2+11:32
MonkeyDustmac  just read something about installing minecraft, moment11:33
Ben64mac: you need java and 3d capable video card drivers11:33
MonkeyDustoops, not minecraft, something diferent with mine, for server11:34
maci did.. a study over it.. does not work for me on virtual (xp, xp pro, ubuntu/ubuntu shell, ubuntu/gnome shell.. :( pissed..11:34
macben64, how to get those?11:35
histomac: What video card do you have?11:35
Ben64mac: 3d is not easy to get working in a VM11:35
histomac: oh this is in a VM?11:35
qknightMonkeyDust: i did apt-get update first ;-)11:35
qknightMyrtti: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to update the kernel with 3 packages11:36
macdont know... i use laptop HP Compaq 6710b11:36
qknightMyrtti: no it is 6 packages ;-)11:36
Myrttimac: so it is a virtual machine then? which kind?11:36
Myrttiqknight: there you have it then.11:36
qknightMyrtti: thanks!11:36
histomac: Are you using a virtual machine right now to run ubuntu?11:37
maci dont care where it is, how it is... just, please, help me to fix...  oracle ? Vm box manager11:37
qknightMyrtti: do i have to reboot after this kernel update -> linux-image-generic-pae ( wird eingerichtet ...11:37
histomac: Why are you trying to run minecraft in virtual box?11:37
macubuntu is on external usb hd11:37
maccuz it aint working normaly?11:37
histomac: You just need to install java and proper video drivers11:38
Myrttiqknight: if you want to use it11:38
Ben64mac: run it on whatever OS you have running natively11:38
histomac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5558/how-can-i-install-minecraft#556511:38
maci have java... 711:38
qknightMyrtti: yes i think i have to since it was reported as a security upgrade i guess, is that not right?11:38
macthats ubuntu11:38
Ben64mac: java os? doesn't exist11:38
histomac: please paste the output of lspci11:39
histo!paste | mac11:39
ubottumac: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:39
maci have java.. not sure over drivers.. i use ubuntu allways.. only shity xp is in help, when linux dies11:39
histomac: if you paste the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com we can help you with proper video drivers11:40
histomac: or go to system settings > hardware  if on 12.10 go to system settings > software sources > hardware tab11:40
histomac: also if all you use is ubuntu why are you booting it off of usb?11:41
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macthere u go11:41
pankajguys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection11:41
Ben64mac: when you start your computer, does windows start up?11:41
pankajguys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection11:41
maccuz.. i dont have a computer...11:41
maci visit people.. and i need my.. "home " with me11:41
Ben64pankaj: yeah we saw you, wait more than 8 seconds before repeating. like maybe 15 minutes11:41
Ben64mac: laptop is a computer, don't be difficult11:41
macif i told grub to boot from first hd.. yes11:42
Ben64i give up11:42
histomac: You have java installed?11:42
machold on.. brb11:42
histomac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48468/how-do-i-install-java11:43
histo!details | pankaj11:43
ubottupankaj: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:43
histomac: stop what?11:43
macopen JDK Java! 7 Runtime, 6 Runtime, IcedTea Java web Start... if i say brb, dont write please... i get lost11:44
macben64, i know it is i use it.. :)11:45
machisto, please continue11:45
macIcedTea Java Browser plugin aint istalled.. install?11:46
PiratelvHello everyone. My Ethernet link keeps going down without the interface actually going offline. It just stops responding. (ping gives back "No route to host") Already messed withe the mtu but that only seems to have made it worse.11:47
maccan u help me out?11:48
MonkeyDustPiratelv  is the cable well plugged?11:48
PiratelvMonkeyDust, Yes. doing a "/etc/init.d/network restart" restores the network for a few minutes/hours11:49
artreishould i use nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates?11:56
BluesKajHiyas all11:59
moppersBluesKaj, hello12:00
BluesKajhi moppers12:00
histomac: You don't need icedtea12:00
histomac: What happens when you rigth click on the minecraft.jar and open with ?? what are you options?12:01
macsorry, histo.. i need to go now.. :(12:01
macwill come back tomorow.. perhaps..12:01
machave a day, all of u..12:01
macand tnx12:02
ZoRRghCan anyone recommend a good commandline texteditor? Currently using VIM.12:02
jribZoRRgh: what's wrong with vim?12:03
compdocvi is sooo 1960s12:03
ZoRRghNothing wrong with it. Just wanted to hear some options. Nano i also tried.12:03
BluesKajand unix frtom the 60s doesn't work12:03
jribZoRRgh: try emacs12:03
moppersdefine 'g ood' in the context of editors. what feadtures do you want/nee12:03
ZoRRghIsn't emacs gui based?12:04
jribZoRRgh: there's a gui just like there's a gui for vim, but you can run it in your shell12:04
ZoRRghI didn't know that. I might check that out.12:05
moppersnano is quite basic, not many features compared to vim or emacs: really cannot compare them as they're different products for differenet functions12:05
mopperserr i mean nano is a different class of program to vim or emacs12:05
moppersnano is great for simple text editing, if you want anything more complex, i find you need vim or emacs12:06
compdocnano has everything I need in a text editor. never used a feature in vi that nano didnt have and made easier12:06
moppersYes, it's subjective12:06
ZoRRghOkay. So nano is like the name implies were small editing tool.12:07
BluesKajnano is certainly handy when stuck in a tty after an X problem ...saved my bacon a few times12:07
moppersya, they all have their uses12:08
ZoRRghThanks guys. Ill just continue being afk now. ^^12:08
moppersif you need stuff like a debugger for code, you need vim: nano won't do it. if you just need to write shell scripts, nano is really easy to use12:10
ZoRRghI think if i stick to using nano and vim ill be covered pretty good.12:12
shafoxhi , my lucid box says i dont have java everytime i run some program that depends on java, but i have already installed it ..12:15
mako_anyone has succesfully installed vmware player 4 or 5 on (l)ubuntu 13.04?12:18
bazhangmako_, raring issues on #ubuntu+112:18
xzcvczxshafox: what happens if you try running "java" on the command line?12:19
mako_k ty12:19
shafox<xzcvczx> toon@shadowfox:~$ java The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: * gcj-4.4-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless * cacao * gij-4.3 * jamvm Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>12:20
shafoxbut the openjdk-6 is installed12:21
xzcvczxshafox: the jdk != jre12:22
xzcvczxthe jdk is for development so contains javac but not java i believe12:22
xzcvczxand headers etc, as javac is used for "compiling" .java files into .class files then java runs them12:23
shafoxxzcvczx: so which package to install?? i am not a java developer, so i just need the programs that need java to run smoothly12:23
xzcvczxor openjdk-6-jre-headless?12:25
mx8mangerhello guys12:25
xzcvczxhey mx8manger12:26
mx8mangeri would like to add a new user manually12:26
mx8mangereverything is good12:26
shafoxxzcvczx: openjdk-6-jre-headless: already installed12:26
mx8mangerbut how to figure out the default shadowfile encryption policy ?12:26
ThomasM_Hello everybody12:26
xzcvczxmx8manger: why would you been adding one that manually? is a BADIDEA(tm)12:26
mx8mangeri want to know MOAR how everything is going12:27
mx8mangerand it will be better idea if changed to a better salted pwd12:27
xzcvczxmx8manger: a better salted pwd?12:27
mx8mangerso script kittens/kiddies do nothing12:28
* cfhowlett ... salted password? not peppered?12:28
mx8mangerubuntu by default dosnt salt the hashes right ?12:28
cfhowlettThomasM_, greetings12:28
xzcvczxshafox: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre?12:28
mx8mangerbut i faild figuring out the hashing type12:28
jribmx8manger: why do you say that...?12:28
mx8mangeri just want to secure my self better12:29
shafoxxzcvzx: yes i did it said it is newest version12:29
jribmx8manger: read man 3 crypt12:29
mx8manger 3 stands for what12:30
xzcvczxmx8manger: if your shadow line is $x$blah$blah then its hashed12:30
jribmx8manger: the section12:30
jribmx8manger: maybe this interests you too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#hashing12:31
ThomasM_I have a strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.12:31
ThomasM_This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:12:31
ThomasM_KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo"12:31
ThomasM_But the same for ttyUSB doenst work12:32
ThomasM_KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.12:32
ThomasM_does somebody have a explanation why12:32
xzcvczxshafox: still around? try "whereis java" and see if that gives you anything12:48
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LinuxHipsterGuys sorry a quick question12:51
delocazHello! I'm wondering how to open the little boot menu when booting from a live CD without a working keyboard, since it only recieves power after that little logo that says keyboard=man goes away12:51
MonkeyDustLinuxHipster  hope we have a quick answer12:51
LinuxHipsterHow do I turn off ubuntu default desktop :0 and just use tightvnc to control my OS remotely12:51
xzcvczxdelocaz: get usb keyboard :P12:51
LinuxHipsterfrom desktop :2 or :312:51
delocazxzcvczx, I am using an USB keyboard12:51
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD12:52
xzcvczxdelocaz: thats odd, what sort of keyboard? i assume you can't use keyboard to access bios either then?12:52
[deXter]delocaz, There should be an option in the BIOS to enable USB input devices ... legacy mode or something like that12:53
delocaz[deXter], i'm gonna try that. brb12:53
xzcvczx[deXter]: if he can access bios :P12:53
shafoxxzcvczx: it gave whereis java java: /etc/java /usr/share/java12:56
LinuxHipsterHow do I kill Ubuntu's default desktop that runs on screen "desktop :0" and just use tightvnc or xrdp to control my linux from "desktop :1"12:57
xzcvczxLinuxHipster: why do you need to stop it from running the desktop on :0?12:57
xzcvczxLinuxHipster: you can set it up for vnc on another desktop and still have :0 up12:58
LinuxHipsterI am will control the laptop from another laptop on same network12:58
LinuxHipsterI don't need the first desktop running12:58
houserI have a very poor wifi connection on my one computer, and only a single laptop running ubuntu has a decent reception, so i want to capture wifi on this laptop and forward it to another computer (while still beeing available for use on this laptop). Is that possible on ubuntu?12:58
LinuxHipsterhouser you will need a ethernet cable12:58
LinuxHipsterand set a bridge connection12:59
houserLinuxHipster, yeah, i have that12:59
shafoxxzcvczx: any thoughts?? it shows that there is some path to java but i cant run java12:59
houserLinuxHipster, how do i set a bridge connection?12:59
xzcvczxhouser: its not possible with any os unless you have 2 wifi cards12:59
xzcvczxwell 2 wifi adapters12:59
houserxzcvczx, but i just want to forward from wifi to ethernet cable12:59
c2taruncan anyone please help me in setting FTP server using vsftpd. I started the service but when I am accessing from windows machine I am getting "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()" error13:00
LinuxHipsterWell I never really tried it myself so I don't know how, It's super easy to set up a bridge connection on windows though13:00
xzcvczxshafox: gimme a min, i am just installing java to check something13:00
LinuxHipsterjust a couple of clicks13:00
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xzcvczxc2tarun: chmod13:01
sprlhzlhey guys i have a 10.04 server but suddenly it doesn't boot, instead it gives me a ureadahead error status 513:01
sprlhzldoes anybody know how i fix that?13:01
xzcvczxshafox: ls /etc/alternatives/java13:02
c2tarunxzcvczx, you mean I have to give access to write into the folder of ftp to the temparory user I created to login to ftp?13:02
shafoxxzcvczx: no such file or directory13:02
xzcvczxc2tarun: no you have to make the root directory thats served non writable by the server i believe13:03
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androidhey all, so im currently locked out of my ubuntu... unity has frozen i think, i cant move or click any of the windows, but i can type on this terminal. how can i restart it?13:03
xzcvczxls /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java13:03
xzcvczxshafox: ^^13:03
androidand i can see my mouse cursor13:03
ZoRRghsudo rebbot13:03
c2tarunxzcvczx, ok, let me try13:04
androidi don't want to reboot...13:04
xzcvczxandroid: ^^13:04
androidxzcvczx: is that a shortcut for reboot?13:04
xzcvczxit restarts x13:04
ZoRRghjust install gnome-fallback instead.13:04
xzcvczxwell kills x and then x aurto restarts13:04
androidhmm didn't work13:04
xzcvczxandroid: /exec killall unity13:05
shafoxxzcvczx: i have this ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java13:05
xzcvczxshafox: ok and ls /usr/bin/java13:05
androidxzcvczx: so type /exec killall unity from terminal?13:05
xzcvczxandroid: well i assume your terminal is a irc client?13:06
androidxzcvczx: yeah it is atm :P13:06
shafoxxzcvczx: no such file or directory13:06
androidxzcvczx: on irssi atm13:06
xzcvczxandroid: then /exec makes it execute13:06
androidno process found13:06
androidit says13:06
ZoRRghandroid: you could install another ui.13:06
xzcvczxshafox: try running that java file you found13:06
MonkeyDustandroid  irssi in combination with screen makes it more flexible13:06
ZoRRghUnity sucks anyway13:07
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)13:07
xzcvczxZoRRgh: ok, you have made your pont....13:07
MonkeyDustZoRRgh  yu don't like it, that's different13:07
androidit doesn't help me right now ZoRRgh13:07
xzcvczxandroid: /exec ps aux13:07
xzcvczxsee if you can find unity in that list13:07
ZoRRgh^^ No. I prefer the old gnome layout.13:07
xzcvczxandroid: or if its easier ctrl-alt-f1 and do it there13:08
shafoxxzcvczx: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java13:08
shafox this file i found. what to run?13:08
xzcvczxZoRRgh: good for you.... now how bout a nice cup of STU13:08
xzcvczxshafox: try it13:08
androidxzcvczx: /exec unity seems to have relaunched/fixed it :) thanks buddy13:08
xzcvczxandroid: lol, ok13:08
ZoRRghxzcvczx: Point taken sir.13:08
xzcvczxandroid: might want to check if there is a zombie around13:09
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androidxzcvczx: is that linux lingo, or do you mean a literal zombie? haha13:09
xzcvczxandroid: dead process13:09
xzcvczxhence zombie13:09
xzcvczxas its still gets in the way eating up ram13:09
androidxzcvczx: ah ;)13:09
shafoxxzcvczx: this is what i got. https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378345 . i guess java is installed cause its outputting the usage options13:09
ZoRRghandroid: Did you recently update any drivers? I once had no gui when logging in. Maybe its the same thing13:11
delocazHello! Another quick question: I tried to install Xubuntu on an old computer, and it didn't boot up to Ubiquity. I then got told to set the nomodeset parameter on the kernel, but didn't work. Right now, it boots up to text saying Xubuntu 12.10 and 4 dots underneath, then goes black, then flashes a cursor for half a seconf, then goes black again.13:11
delocazHow can I fix this?13:11
xzcvczxshafox try sudo update-alternatives --config java13:12
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MonkeyDust!nomodeset | delocaz13:12
ubottudelocaz: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:12
shafoxxzcvczx: no alternatives for java13:12
k1l_android: do you have the headers for your kernel version?13:12
MonkeyDustdelocaz  ok, you did that13:12
delocazMonkeyDust, I have tried nomodeset, but it didn't fix the problem.13:12
xzcvczxnope apparently not13:13
LinuxHipsterHow do check how much space do I have left on my hard drive?13:14
cfhowlettLinuxHipster, df -H13:14
xzcvczxshafox: no idea sorry then.... might have to try nuking and reinstalling java13:14
bekksLinuxHipster: Type "df -h" in a terminal13:14
LinuxHipsterAlright, thanks <313:15
shafoxxzcvczx: any link to that ?? what packages i need to purge and reinstall again sort of13:15
bekks!java > shafox13:16
ubottushafox, please see my private message13:16
xzcvczxshafox: thanks bekks13:16
ThomasM_Hello everyone13:16
xzcvczxwelcome back ThomasM_13:16
cfhowlettThomasM_, greetings13:16
shafoxxzcvczx: thanks bekks13:16
ThomasM_I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10. This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device: KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo" Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="13:17
ThomasM_This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.13:17
xzcvczxThomasM_: anythign in the logs?13:17
androidxzcvczx: yeah i'm getting weird behaviour, like all of the icons on the launcher are missing haha. is there an easy way to kill and restart unity without closing all my open stuff? i've got a lot of unsaved work open.13:17
RusViciousHave a nice day13:18
xzcvczxandroid: easiest just to save and restart most likely13:18
androidxzcvczx: fair enough :( lame haha13:18
xzcvczxandroid: theres a bunch of stuff to restart13:18
shafoxbtw i followed that ubuntu comunity page how to install java, but still dont have it by having it13:18
xzcvczxandroid: least you don't need to reboot (unlike windows) :P13:18
ThomasM_xzcvczx i didn't see anything starnge in the syslog13:18
RusViciousSomeone ported Ubuntu Phone on LG  optimus L9 (P675)?13:18
androidxzcvczx: i don't?13:18
xzcvczxandroid: nah just logout and login13:19
androidxzcvczx: oh :)13:19
ubottuRusVicious,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch13:19
ThomasM_xvcvczx Then I tried a simpler rule like this: ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" But the created symlink links to the bus "ttyRoboClaw -> bus/usb/001/012" instead of the original device path "ttyUSB0"13:19
kinimodultra_i have a problem with ubuntu instal. please help with that?13:20
bekkskinimodultra_: Only if you actually state your problem.13:20
ubottukinimodultra_,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:20
xzcvczxThomasM_: doesn't that achieve the same thing?13:20
xzcvczxshafox: it seems that java is becoming a bit of a dead art these days (well on desktop anyway)13:21
ThomasM_xzcvczx if the link points to the bus its not possible for me to use the symlink in c++ to open a deviece also its not possible to use it in the shell13:21
bekksxzcvczx: Which is not true :)13:22
xzcvczxbekks: lol maybe i am just dreaming of a better future :)13:22
kinimodultra_bekks:  yes of course. I install ubuntu (no problem) and when i restart Pc (instal is complete) its only dash on screen (on black screen) and its all13:22
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shafoxxzcvczx: well the applications still needs it to run properly. and java wont die , it can't13:22
bekksshafox: It can, but it wont.13:23
CorySimmonsHey guys, anyone have any idea why my Samba share is only randomly available? I'm on a shared network with other people and I'm not sure if them connecting/disconnecting affects my share or not. Or if there's something I can do to make my share permanent.13:23
shafoxbekks: yeah ...13:23
ThomasM_kinimodultra_ trie to open a different console and try to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop13:23
e-v-oHey, I have a desktop with brackground only after restarting X. Alt+Ctrl+F1 is unresponsive : ( How do I get out of this?13:23
shafoxSo shall I avoid java based applications ??13:23
xzcvczxe-v-o: ctrl-alt-f1 work?13:23
shafox I can't run it13:24
e-v-onot at alll13:24
kinimodultra_OK I try this13:24
xzcvczxe-v-o: ah so ctrl-alt-backspace?13:24
bekksshafox: Why not?13:24
bekksshafox: Whats the detailed, exact error you get?13:24
xzcvczxbekks: not showing up as /etc/alternatives/java or in /usr/bin/java13:24
bekksxzcvczx: Then you/he needs to install it.13:24
shafoxyeah bekks as xzcvczx said13:24
xzcvczxbekks: lol thats what i said13:25
shafoxbekks: i did install it13:25
bekksshafox: Obviously you didnt ;)13:25
shafoxand i followed the community page on java13:25
CorySimmonsAnyone know anything about Samba shares in here?13:25
xzcvczxbekks: the executable is in the /usr/lib folder but not any symlinks13:25
e-v-oxzcvczx, is it safe to do a hard reset?13:25
bekksshafox: So which version did you install how?13:25
shafoxbekks: openjdk-613:26
xzcvczxe-v-o: shouldn't hurt anything13:26
xzcvczxe-v-o: whats the drive light showing?13:26
shafoxand i installed it through apt-get13:26
e-v-ono activity13:26
xzcvczxe-v-o: then yank it13:26
shafoxi mean bekks: it just pops up with the deb installer from help.ubuntu.com/community/java13:26
bekksshafox: You should install openjdk-6-jdk or openjdk-6-jre at least.13:27
ThomasM_xzcvczx do you have any more ideas why ttyACM rule for the symlink works bit ttyUSB rule wort?13:27
shafoxbekks: this is waht xzcvczx told me try and the result is this https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/537834513:27
jgdovinwell.. wtf. NataLia is spamming sex sites on join?13:27
xzcvczxjgdovin: are they good ones? :P13:27
shafoxbekks: yeah the deb package is in the help community java page i installed that one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java13:28
bekksshafox: Thats not using apt-get then-13:28
xzcvczxshafox: why did you install a deb and not from the repose?13:28
bekksshafox: All you need to do is running "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk".13:28
bekksshafox: Or stick with your manually installed stuff.13:28
shafoxbekks: & xzcvczx: i went directly with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java13:29
bekksshafox: If doing the latter, I am out of support.13:29
shafoxbekks & xzcvczx: i did the OpenJDK first option13:30
shafoxi did nothing as of manual installation13:30
jgdovink so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url13:30
bekksshafox: Please provide the following outputs in a pastebin: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l openjdk13:30
xzcvczxshafox: does your app require java 1.6?13:30
KaZeRhi there13:31
shafoxxzcvczx: i am installing subsonic and phpstorm13:31
shafoxthey both need 1.6 or later xzcvczx13:31
jgdovinlol whoops13:31
jgdovinanyway, back to my question if anyone has suggestions13:32
KaZeRi have a laptop which crashed during an apt-get upgrade. now some packages seem to be inconsistent13:32
xzcvczxshafox: then why not install 7?13:32
cfhowlettKaZeR, recommend you reinstall13:32
KaZeRexample : initramfs-tools is not configured, because it depends on udev, which can't be configured because it depends on initramfs-tools13:32
shafoxbekks: https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/537841713:32
KaZeRcfhowlett, won't be easy.. i'm very far from this laptop, trying to help over the internet13:33
KaZeRcd /h13:33
shafoxyeah i mean i have one so didn't bother to go for another one btw i am on lucid13:33
shafoxxzcvczx: ^^13:33
bekksshafox: And could you provide the output "dpkg -l | grep openjdk" too, please?13:33
jgdovink so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url if you can give me an idea of where to start i would be greatful13:33
cfhowlettjgdovin, perhaps a good question for #ubuntu-server ...13:34
xzcvczxshafox: why such an old version?13:34
dr_willisand file a support ticket with the VPS provider13:34
bekksjgdovin: dns issue.13:34
shafoxbekks: updated gist https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/537841713:35
xzcvczxjgdovin: route -n13:35
bekksshafox: You should manually install a reasonable safe version. Your version isnt.13:35
shafoxxzcvczx: coz i am having a very old laptop. will be switching to xubuntu after one month when this will be in no more supported13:35
xzcvczxsee if there is a default route13:35
jgdovin0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 venet013:36
shafoxbekks: manually? can't i add repos and install from there that would be error free right??13:36
jgdovinlooks like no default route13:36
xzcvczxjgdovin: lol, check for the network settings from your provider13:36
e-v-oxzcvczx, rebooting did the trick13:36
DylanClHello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this13:36
bekksshafox: No software on this planet is error free. You should just update to 1.6.0_43 at least - or just use the latest 1.7 version.13:36
jgdovinxzcvczx: this is a vps, i guess i need to get this info from them13:37
shafoxbekks: no updates are coming for java :(13:37
bekksshafox: Then manually install... - I just told you :P13:37
shafoxshall i again go with the help.ubuntu.com/community/java to install java 1.7 ??13:37
xzcvczxshafox: try using synaptic13:38
delocazSo... My computer still won't boot past the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10" and has 4 dots from the live CD. It is now randomly flashing between movable cursor and black screen. Is it because it doesn't have enough RAM (it has 1gb). I'm trying to install Xubuntu13:38
bekksxzcvczx: Synaptics doe the same as apt-get13:38
xzcvczxbekks: yeah but its a nice and pretty gui13:38
xzcvczxbekks: well its a gui13:38
bekksxzcvczx: Which is unneeded for "apt-get install packagename" :P13:38
bekksshafox: Drop your version and manuall install the latest 1.7 version or use the PPA mentioned in that article.13:39
shafoxbekks: there is no ppa on that page. there is though the .deb installer file13:40
bekksshafox: There is a PPA on that page. I can see it.13:41
DylanClstreaming() {13:41
DylanCl   INRES="1440x900"13:41
DylanClWoops, sorryu13:41
delocazSo nobody can help me?13:41
dr_willisdelocaz:  sounds like X is crashing over and over again.13:41
dr_willisdelocaz:  1gb is plenty.  tell the channel your video cartd13:42
DylanClHello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this13:42
InspiralI have an issue with my graphics card crashing the desktop with a garbled display every 4-6 hours, if i reset using the reset switch or reboot via reisub artifacts remain on screen/locks up. I must physically disconnect the power cable or use the power switch on the PSU to get things working again correctly (fishy?). I have tried with nouvou drivers and propriety i have a geforce 21013:42
bekksshafox: "1.Using webupd8.org's strikingly simple method. " -- thats basically a PPA.13:42
Inspiralis this card screwed or is it something else ?13:42
delocazdr_willis: I have no idea... It's integrated something I think.13:42
delocazand setting it to nomodeset doesn't help13:43
shafoxbekks: let me give that a try13:43
shafoxbekks: should i purge the openjdk first or on top of that i will install ? ?13:43
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bekksshafox: I told you to, yes.13:43
Inspiralalso, I can force the crash by running sensors-detect - which crashes upon reaching the gpu section13:43
dr_willisdelocaz:  time to look up the exact make and model on the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com i guess. and see if anyone else has issues.. the pc makers homepage will also give some info on its specs13:43
delocazdr_willis: I have no idea what the card is, as I can't open the live cd... Also, I got it second-hand from work13:44
BluesKajInspiral, install the nvidia-current driver , then reboot13:44
xzcvczxInspiral: purge the sensors stuff?13:45
InspiralBluesKaj: i have tried with it13:45
Inspiralits not sensors crashing it13:45
xzcvczxlmsensors or lm-sensors?13:45
Inspiralit does it regardless13:45
dr_willis!text | delocaz13:45
ubottudelocaz: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode13:45
xzcvczxInspiral: try reseating card13:45
Inspiralok i can try that13:45
Inspiralanything else you can suggest?13:45
dr_willisdelocaz:  try text mode. see what lspci says about the hardware i guess. or open it up if its a desktop and look.13:45
Inspiralspecifically to work out if it really is hardware fault13:45
delocazubottu: it isn't installed... Can't even get Ubiquity running so it's off a live CD13:46
ubottudelocaz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:46
BluesKajxzcvczx, could be right , Inspiral , your card  could be working loose as it warms up13:46
dexter_I'm a computer science student and would like to join Getting things Gnome's mailing list.13:46
dexter_In order to be able to contribute to OPW13:47
bekksdexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?13:47
IszakI'm trying to use duplicity with an include filelist, however I can't get it to exclude all .git directories nested, I've tried "- **/.git/" ,"- **/.git/**" "- **/.git" any help is appreciated13:47
Inspiraloff to reboot to hit this card with a mallet then :)13:48
xzcvczxInspiral: sledgehammers are easier13:48
xzcvczxrequire less input force just more lifting force13:48
cfhowlettdexter_, so why tell us?13:49
dexter_I'm trying to participate in OPW and considering to work on Gnome13:50
MonkeyDustwhat's opw?13:51
bekksdexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?13:51
Robi33000Hello, I need USB version suppurt13:51
cfhowlettdexter_, this is ubuntu.  not OPW or Gnome.  continue your search13:51
DJones!contribute | dexter_13:51
ubottudexter_: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu13:51
dexter_thank you13:51
xzcvczxRobi33000: USB version support?13:51
MonkeyDustRobi33000  sounds strange, but ask your question13:52
hhasanne oluyor simdi13:54
sprlhzlhow can i list all physical hard drives attached to my ubuntu server?13:55
Carlos30Hi, one question, if I install the beta 2 of ubuntu 13.04, when the final version leave should i reinstalling or upgrading would not be necessary?13:56
contrapunctusNataLia is spamming links of claimed pornography =\13:57
contrapunctus(via PM)13:57
delocazdr_willis: All I can get from lspci is "Silicon Integrated"13:57
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sebazatoHi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have since experiencing a problem: approximately one out of two times that I try to turn it on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?13:58
sonOfRaIs it possible to create custom right click menu additions for certain folders?13:58
sonOfRaI know dropbox does this somehow, so I guess it is possible13:58
delocazWhen I try to install Xubuntu 12.10, it boots up to the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10   . . . . ", then blackscreens and flashes a cursor off and on.14:00
delocazHaven't gotten into Ubiquity yet14:00
sebazatoI tried using older kernel versions, didn't work14:00
jephbhi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?14:00
wilee-nileedelocaz, Do you get the first gui with choices like tryout install check memory?14:01
jephbhi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?14:01
xzcvczxjephb: might be better to ask in #debian14:02
cfhowlettjephb, probably want to ask about that in debian .... :)14:02
sebazatoalmost forgot, before stalling on the black screen, an error message flashes for less than a second, saying "kvm- disabled by BIOS"14:02
jephbthank let me try14:02
shafoxbekks & xzcvczx: I installed java 7 and its working good. :)14:02
jiridoHi. Im in to install lubuntu 13.10 beta 2.. will i be able to upgrade that one to 13.10 without reinstall?14:02
delocazwilee-nilee: yes, I do.14:02
wilee-nileedelocaz, Take a look here on using f6 there to choose nomodeset. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=161313214:03
coffeHello, would need some helt getting my soundcard working .. having a cm8888 chip . found this http://markmail.org/thread/c4amw54bo7z5jzzv but dont know what to do with it14:03
delocazwilee-nilee: I have tried that, but it didn't help. Some other person said it might be because X crashes again and again?14:04
wilee-nileedelocaz, I would check the md5sum of the ISO.14:04
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows14:04
delocazwilee-nilee: Been there, done that. The ISO is perfectly fine, and the disc verification says it's fine too14:05
sebazatoHi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have been experiencing a problem since: approximately half the times that I try to turn the laptop on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?14:06
wilee-nileedelocaz, Cool, not sure beyond that, if it were me I would probably check the computer on the web and hardware in general and the install media.14:06
wilee-nileeon this install release=media14:06
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ThomasM_Hello again everybody now i try to explain my problem in one line.14:17
ThomasM_I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=14:17
falcomhello ubuntu user. What terminals do you guys use?14:18
bekksfalcom: Is that a poll?14:18
falcombekks: sort of, im hating the default one as i feel like it's missing some basic features (like search)14:22
bekks!poll > falcom14:22
ubottufalcom, please see my private message14:22
xzcvczxfalcom: search in what way?14:22
bekksfalcom: I never needed to search something using the terminals capabilities - I just use find, grep, awk, sed, etc. when being in dire need of "searching".14:23
xzcvczxi never new terminals had the ability to "search"14:23
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trap23my software centre  closes without any error when i try to open it. using 12.04. was trying to install "Gnaural"14:23
ThomasMHello again. I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}14:23
xzcvczxtrap23: try running from the command line and seeing what the error is?14:23
trap23xzcvczx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704859/14:25
xzcvczxtrap23: cd /var/lib/apt14:25
xzcvczxtrap23: sudo mv lists lists.old14:26
xzcvczxsudo apt-get update14:26
trap23xzcvczx: why does occurred ?14:26
xzcvczxtrap23: there was a solar flare while you were updating your package lists14:27
trap23xzcvczx: thanks, will not do update during flares ;)14:28
xzcvczxtrap23: good idea14:28
ThomasMDont know if message was send so i give it another try the last one:14:29
ThomasMI have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATT14:30
ThomasMokay didnt worked ...#14:30
xzcvczxThomasM: try ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx as is it a symlink already?14:30
sprezzaturaam not able to install postgres on 11.10. says 'unable to locate packages'. any help?14:30
xzcvczxsprezzatura: apt-get update14:30
sprezzaturaxzcvczx: did that14:31
xzcvczxsprezzatura: apt-cache search postgres14:31
sprezzaturaxzcvczx: thanks. i didnt know about that14:32
slinnkysprezzatura, now you do!14:32
sprezzaturait so happens that i had to mention postgresql-9.114:32
azbarceahi guys, how can I install boost 1.49 or 1.51 to ubuntu 12.04, when there isn't in repository?14:33
trap23xzcvczx: it really was a flare, just during the trying to fetch package information, the website went offline. and corrupted my lists14:33
xzcvczxtrap23: see... its always them damn flares14:34
trap23xzcvczx: yes, rare occurrences14:34
xzcvczxazbarcea: apt-cache search boost14:34
xzcvczxazbarcea: its libboost*14:34
ThomasMxzcvczx: ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx returns crw-rw-rw- 1 thomas dialout 188, 0 Apr 13 13:48 /dev/ttyUSB014:35
ThomasMi am not sure but is the device ttyUSB0 already linked to /dev/ttyUSB014:35
ThomasMis this an existing symlink??14:35
azbarceaxzcvczx: i know that ... but I can't find >= 1.4914:35
xzcvczxwhat version is it?14:36
azbarceaxzcvczx: libboost1.48-all-dev14:36
azbarceaxzcvczx: and libboost1.46-dev ... but that one is too old14:36
xzcvczxwow... you are up a creak without a paddle then aren't you14:36
xzcvczxtry launchpad otherwise you may need to wait for +114:37
carlos_does anyone know of an alternative to libre office that works as good as MS office?14:37
xzcvczxdefine "works as good"14:37
azbarceaxzcvczx: 1.49 is on quantal and raring ... not on 12.04 :(14:37
xzcvczxas i find libre office works as good as ms office for everything i need it for14:38
xzcvczxazbarcea: oh yeah that is one problem with lts's14:38
DylanClHello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this please.14:38
azbarceaxzcvczx: :(14:38
carlos_i tried opening a spreadsheet and the formulas and macros don't work, i then tried on MS office and it works fine.14:38
azbarceacarlos_: Google Apps ... but what doesn't suits for you libreOffice?14:38
bekkscarlos_: Thats expected. MS Office macros wont work in non-MS-Office products.14:39
xzcvczxcarlos_: hmm i have never had an issue with formulas in libre but macros aren't the best\14:39
azbarceacarlos_: you may install MS Office on windows using wine14:40
carlos_at first I thought it was the spreadsheet but then I booted to windows and ran the same spreadsheet on MS office and it worked fine.14:41
xzcvczxcarlos_: well as bekks said, macros don't really work outside ms14:41
azbarceacarlos_: There are some macros, and formulas that work ONLY in MS, because of the dlls referenced. And if the macros use VBA, than it is obvious why it doesn't work14:41
bekkscarlos_: As already said, thats totally expected.14:42
carlos_I haven't tried wine ms office yet. maybe that my solution14:42
carlos_I have permanently switch to ubuntu and rather not go to windows for MS office14:43
ThomasMSO after trying to post one line with my problem explanation i will try the paste method:14:43
ThomasMI Have problems with the udev rules:14:43
wilee-nileecarlos_, If you have a dual boot I would not bother with wine and word.14:43
ThomasMHere i have descipted the situations14:43
ThomasMplaese have a look at it thank ypou very much14:44
carlos_wilee-nilee_ so you suggest just using windows then? I do have a dual boot but I only use it for itunes because I have an iphone.14:45
wilee-nileecarlos_, I was referring to the MS word.14:48
azbarceaxzcvczx: it appears I have to compile boost myself ... :)14:49
wilee-nileeyour choice though I write grad papers so I'm biased as far as stability and full use carlos_14:49
xzcvczxazbarcea: lol, good ol' boost14:50
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ThomasMxzcvczx i think you are the most active person here so i will send you again my information about my udev problem its described here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704916/14:50
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xzcvczxThomasM: well is /dev/ttyUSBx a symlink to elsewhere?14:52
wilee-nileeThomasM, You are lucky some find be directly asks for help with contacting you first not a good policy, I would ignore you. ;)14:54
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damnickhi , i use ubuntu 12.10 and when i try to enter at recovery concose the boot stops at: kvm: Nested Paging enabled14:56
damnickwhat can i do to boot normally?14:57
ThomasMxzcvczx /dev/ttyUSBx is not a symlink i want to create a symlink like /dev/ttyRoboclaw which links the device /dev/ttyUSB0. Hope i understand your question right14:57
MonkeyDustThomasM  consider asking in #bash14:57
ThomasMwilee-nilee I didnt understand what you said?14:58
delocazCan anyone help me with installing Xubuntu? It only boots to the screen that has "Xubuntu 12.10" and 4 blinking dots. Then goes to a black screen and randomly flashes a cursor on and off. I have tried: nomodeset14:58
ThomasMMonkeyDust thanks I will also try it in #bash14:59
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wilee-nilee!details > delocaz15:00
ubottudelocaz, please see my private message15:00
wilee-nileedelocaz, Sorry wrong nick my bad15:00
wilee-nilee!details > damnick15:01
ubottudamnick, please see my private message15:01
FunktipusI just installed lubuntu on a computer that was sitting in my garage for most of the winter.15:02
FunktipusIs there any cool things i can do with a fairly old computer?15:02
delocazFunktipus: You could set up a web server15:03
xzcvczxlol worst question ever15:03
xzcvczxFunktipus: you can take the cpu hsf off and see how long it takes to catch fire :P15:03
MonkeyDust!tasksel | Funktipus15:03
ubottuFunktipus: Tasksel is a Debian/Ubuntu tool that installs multiple related packages as a co-ordinated "task" onto your system, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel for more information. Use tasksel only to INSTALL tasks, not to remove them. It will remove every package listed within the removed task! see https://launchpad.net/bugs/57428715:03
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ericbradatschhi i have problems mounting a remote filesystem with chmod 77715:09
ericbradatschcan anybody help me out?15:09
dr_willisgive us more details ericbradatsch .15:09
ericbradatschi am mounting via fstab // /var/www/TAS/files cifs username=...,password=...,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,defaults 0 015:10
MonkeyDustericbradatsch  chmod 777 is NOT a good idea15:10
dr_williserr.. umask is not the same as the modes.15:10
ericbradatschand when i do ls -l it shows drwxr-xr-x  1 service service          0 Apr 13 17:05 files15:10
ericbradatschuh :/15:11
ericbradatschdr_willis: what do i have to put there?15:11
dr_willistheres also the fmask and dmask options.15:11
ericbradatschMonkeyDust: I know - but there are different users accessing the folder15:11
colleenAhello there I am trying to turn off touch pad taping but no matter what I do it is not turning off. my bf told me to try dconf-editor and gnome-control-panel but gnome-con... has no touchpad section undere mouse and touchpad and dconf-editor I have clicked on disable tap-to-click but still nothing. thanks15:12
ericbradatschdr_willis: one sec gonna google ist15:12
dr_willis!info samba-doc15:12
ubottusamba-doc (source: samba): Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 5576 kB, installed size 13723 kB15:12
MonkeyDustericbradatsch  and all these users can change whatever they want, also lock you out from access15:12
dr_willistheres like 4 books on samba with examples in that samba-doc package also. ;)15:12
ericbradatschMonkeyDust: hmmm… thats a good point. i should think about my access level system :) - thats the problem when you do it in the beginning you leave it like that :)15:13
ericbradatschor which useraccount / userid does apache user15:14
ericbradatschsince this folder is mostly used by apache15:14
xzcvczxerrrr don't 777 stuff that apaches running on15:15
xzcvczxwell visible to apache15:15
KxTwoHey guys I want to start playing around with java and making android apps.  Should I just use the default version of eclipse that can be downloaded through the software center?15:15
xzcvczxthats a BAD_IDEA(tm)15:15
DWSRIf I'm uninstalling stuff, can I tell Apt to not uninstall e2fsprogs somehow?15:15
xzcvczxKxTwo: no use the android sdk15:15
DWSRLike, if I'm purging a bunch of desktop stuff, it's telling me I've selected e2fsprogs.15:15
tekkguys, i'm getting strange behaviour / crashes / panics on ubuntu... finally have managed to get some logs / messages out the box... here's what it says http://pastebin.com/ePUiXTLQ do you think its bad RAM ?15:15
KxTwoxzcvczx, the android sdk is just an add on for eclipse15:16
xzcvczxDWSR: then you are nuking something that e2fsprogs needs15:16
colleenAKxTwo adt comes with eclisop15:16
DWSRxzcvczx: Yeah, I got a list of packages from apt that it's trying to remove because they're marked essential.15:16
ericbradatschback in a min15:16
DWSRxzcvczx: How can I say "remove everything not marked essential that matches these masks"15:16
xzcvczxDWSR: well what exactly are you trying to achieve?15:17
DWSRapt-get purge speech* plymouth* saned* gluster* modemmanager* lightdm*15:17
bekksKxTwo: Manually install eclipse, and do the same for the android sdk.15:17
DWSRRemove a bunch of desktop stuff.15:17
xzcvczxKxTwo: i am pretty sure i have seen sdk packages that include eclipse15:17
DWSRxzcvczx: ^^15:17
xzcvczxDWSR: why are you trying to nuke lightdm... what have you replaced it with?15:17
DWSRI'm not running a DM.15:17
KxTwoOk I am not worried too much about the android side of thigns that is easy to set up with eclipse I am trying to figure out what version of eclipse to use15:18
xzcvczxDWSR: so you are not running a gui?15:18
DWSRxzcvczx: Nope.15:18
KxTwobekks, what version do you recommend?15:18
bekksDWSR: Then how do you startx?15:18
DWSRbekks: I don't.15:18
bekksKxTwo: The latest stable.15:18
xzcvczxDWSR: then why are you not running ubuntu server?15:18
DWSRxzcvczx: I converted this machine and don't feel like reinstalling Ubuntu.15:18
bekksDWSR: Then why are you afraid of uninstalling desktop stuff when not running a desktop?15:18
DWSRbekks: I'm not. I don't want to remove e2fsprogs.15:18
bekksDWSR: Then install them again, afterwards.15:19
xzcvczxwell you are more likely to get yourself into trouble trying to nuke out all the desktop stuff than just reinstalling if its to become a server15:19
DWSRxzcvczx: Humour me.15:19
IdleOneDWSR: you can boot without X if you like see /msg ubottu !nox15:19
colleenAfor startx auto when user logs in add if statement to .bashrc that say if display is = ttyy1 then startx15:19
KxTwobekks, it doesnt list that way on the Dl page15:19
DWSRIdleOne: I'm already booting without X.15:19
DWSRIdleOne: X isn't even installed.15:19
bekksKxTwo: It does. It lists several editions of the latest stable, e.g.15:19
IdleOneyeah, was a legacy figure of speech15:19
KxTwolike right now I downloaded the IDE for java ide developers15:19
bekksKxTwo: Then just use it.15:20
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode15:20
KxTwook im not sure what you are looking at but it doesnt list it that way15:20
murosaihow can i copy file contents into clipboard using commandline?15:20
KxTwoand there was no installation either I simply run it from the extracted folder15:21
IdleOneDWSR: what I mean was that you can boot with a GUI, it won't remove all the desktop packages but if they are not in use they don't use any memory and like xzcvczx said it will save you a lot of possible hassle.15:21
xzcvczxmurosai: in console or terminal?15:21
DWSRIdleOne: I'm running into space restrictions.15:21
DWSRIdleOne: So, again, humour me.15:21
xzcvczxmurosai: select it right click copy15:21
zykotick9DWSR: it is possible to mark a package as manually installed, then apt won't remove it if it's a dependency for some other metapackage, or pulled in by another installed package.  BUT if you remove a dependency it has, obviously, it's gotta go.  good luck.  (starting from mini.iso, and not installing and *desktop metapackages would make a lot more sence to me)15:21
murosaii said using using command line15:22
KxTwoahh the adt bundle includes eclipse15:22
IdleOnezykotick9: he wants to remove Unity, I am not sure if it is possible to do without problems15:22
DWSRzykotick9: How do I mark them? It's 5 or 6 packages. I'll mark them then remove what I'm nuking.15:22
xzcvczxmurosai: well run vi <file> then it will be in command line and copy paste a page at a time15:22
KxTwook I gues im past it being an ubuntu question now, thanks for the help15:23
MonkeyDustwho wants to remove unity? simply install something else, or download a different iso15:23
zykotick9IdleOne: i agree with you!15:23
DWSRMonkeyDust: I'm converting the system without reinstalling.15:23
MonkeyDustDWSR  then simply install some other DE, logout, change, login15:24
DWSRMonkeyDust: Nox.15:24
xzcvczxDWSR: your space saving will also not be as great as you believe it will be15:24
eltigrehey I would like to upgrade to 13.04, but I can't, because all blogs/instructions I found want to do that with  update-manager -d and that won't let me upgrade to 13.0415:24
IdleOneDWSR: you can try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu just don't do the install KDE part15:24
DWSRxzcvczx: 50% of system space.15:24
DWSRIt's plenty large enough, thank you15:25
DWSRFine, let's try this.15:25
zykotick9DWSR: you can try "aptitude unmarkauto foopackage", but i think you're headed for disaster...15:25
wilee-nileeeltigre, What is the release you are running?15:25
IdleOneI suggest you have a Live USB handy if/when you need to do a clean install.15:25
eltigrewilee-nilee, 12.1015:25
colleenADWSR: run dpkg -l then awk or grep or sed iut out then push to file. then go into file take out packages that you want and run a while loop that say on every new line of file run apt-get --purge remove $line15:25
iUnifyHey guys, I had a few questions the other day, but, no one was around.  Well, today things have gotten a bit more serious.  My system is teetering on the edge.  I've been getting critical system errors non-stop (no freezes) and now there is the little blinking line (like in DOS for when you are going to type, ...or terminal.15:25
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DWSRsudo 'Can you help me select all packages matching the following masks but $foo'?15:25
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DWSRDon't give me grief, answer my question, please and thank you. I'm aware of the risks.15:26
prp-eHi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session15:26
prp-eHi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session15:26
iUnifyIn the top left corner of the screen.... everything is getting stuck, the window outlines, the mouse is clicking on its own everywhere15:26
DWSRImagine I'm just appending every question with --force.15:26
xzcvczxiUnify: maybe an exorcist :P15:26
wilee-nileeeltigre, I would wait for it to be released, this problem alone makes one wonder if you can't get around it without help if you are making a wise decision. ;)15:26
iUnifyand, ive no clue what to do other than re-install which i did once already and wiped free space.... soooo, hoping somone has some insight?15:26
xzcvczxiUnify: run top and see what your resource usage is doing15:27
iUnifyahhh, it's possessed!  Great, now I need an exorcist....15:27
`Z`Im using a Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP envy m6 laptop. I had some problem with the wifi card. I got it working by installing the rt3290 firmware and loading ath5k module. But I still can not connect to secured networks, it always say invalid password. Can someone help ?15:27
eltigrewilee-nilee, you are arrogant15:27
xzcvczxeltigre: no, hes honest15:27
iUnifyok, im new to linux, how do i run this this through terminal?15:27
eltigrewilee-nilee, it was a simple question, I don't need babysitting15:27
MonkeyDusteltigre  behave please15:27
xzcvczxiUnify: type in "top"15:28
iUnifythought so, thanks  :)15:28
xzcvczxiUnify: oh and hit return15:28
eltigreit's not that much more polite to answer a simple honest question with "you are too stupid to do that..."15:28
bekks`Z`: rt2390 sounds like a realtek chipset - ath5k is atheros, not realtek.15:28
iUnify  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND15:29
iUnify 2182 marco     20   0 1588m 280m  35m S  28.2  3.6  35:52.66 compiz15:29
iUnify 1267 root      20   0  337m 100m  10m S   8.9  1.3   6:22.99 Xorg15:29
iUnify 5903 marco     20   0  524m  19m  11m S   4.0  0.3   0:00.95 gnome-terminal15:29
iUnify 4683 marco     20   0 1029m 192m  41m S   3.6  2.4   1:05.78 firefox15:29
FloodBot1iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:29
xzcvczx`Z`: lspci and pastebin it15:29
xzcvczxiUnify: yeah don't paste into here15:29
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IdleOneDWSR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705029/ would be the command but like the warning on the psychocats page says, I am not responsible and you should have a full backup.15:29
`Z`wait, let me try to load manually the rt firmware15:29
`Z`It will maybe work.15:29
iUnifysorry about that.... didn't realize.15:29
xzcvczxiUnify: don't post it just leave it running an watch it when your computer goes nuts15:30
DWSRIdleOne: Thank you. It's uninstalling some kernel modules that I was using, but heh.15:30
xzcvczxand you may see your cpu spikes15:30
iUnifygotcha, it's consistently nuts15:30
iUnifylogging me off15:30
IdleOneDWSR: you can always reinstall those after15:30
iUnifygoing black15:30
xzcvczxor ram maybe its using swap15:30
DWSRIdleOne: Yeah, I'm ok with that.15:30
xzcvczxiUnify: maybe disconnect it from the network and see whether it keeps doing the smae thing15:30
DWSRIdleOne: I'm basically trying to strip everything down as much as possible to shove the system onto a 4GB memstick.15:30
iUnifyyou really think it could be the internet?15:31
xzcvczxiUnify: no, it could be a rootkit/virus or something but i am not sure15:31
iUnifyokay, but, disconnecting would show me that?15:31
xzcvczxiUnify: or you just have funky hardware15:31
xzcvczxwell yeah if its not connected the bad poltergeist can't cause issues for you15:32
xzcvczxas poltergeists require the internet to be able to communicate with computers15:32
iUnifylet me see, brb15:32
Robi33000i need to install ubuntu for usb15:32
esdfanyone know why nautilus 3.8 segfaults whenever I click the search button or ctrl+l?15:32
xzcvczxRobi33000: #define instlal ubuntu for usb15:32
DWSRIdleOne: Again, thank you for just telling me the answer to my question. I realize the need to warn most users, but when I say I understand the risks, I really do mean it.15:32
xzcvczxRobi33000: if you mean you need to make a liveUSB to install ubuntu then say that15:33
IdleOneDWSR: sure thing. Hope it works for you.15:33
iUnifystill issues15:33
xzcvczxiUnify: install kazam and record some and upload it to youtube so we can get a laugh out of it15:33
IdleOne!usb | Robi3300015:34
ubottuRobi33000: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent15:34
wilee-nileeRobi33000, Is it a full install to a usb, or a ISO loaded to install on a computer.15:34
iUnifyis this going to help solve anything or for pure comical value?15:34
xzcvczxiUnify: potentially, might allow us to see whats going on15:34
GTAXLAre the repositories the same for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu server? Just curious, cuz I'm running server applications off Ubuntu Desktop..15:34
xzcvczxiUnify: leave top open and visible though15:34
iUnifyright on, I really appreciate the help15:34
`Z`Im already loading the rt3290sta module on boot, with /etc/module, appended rt3290sta15:34
IdleOneGTAXL: yes15:34
`Z`here is my lscpi15:34
iUnifyi figured, cool, thx15:34
xzcvczxiUnify: thats not to say we won't be laughing though15:35
iUnifylol, as you should be.15:35
DWSRIdleOne: This command uninstalls build-essentials.15:35
DWSRIdleOne: Yuck.15:35
IdleOneDWSR: it will, no biggie.15:35
DWSRIdleOne: Indeed. Still though15:36
`Z`here is my rfkill : http://pastebin.com/hvyAKbe415:36
`Z`nothing suspect15:36
DWSRIdleOne: Surprised that a command that I would consider to be a 'power user' command would remove autotools.15:36
`Z`I can scan wifi using iwlist, and it scan and detect the encryption correctly using wicd15:36
iUnifyxxvczczx: Any suggestions for a YouCam alternative (webcam app)... I record songs I play on guitar and evwntually need something.15:37
IdleOneDWSR: this is why we suggested doing a clean install. the command will remove some packages that you would not expect to be removed.15:37
Robi33000i need to install ubuntu but the USB dont boot15:37
`Z`I think it may be a problem with the encryption stuff, since I can connect perfectly to unsecured network and having problems with the secured ones15:37
Robi33000can you elp15:37
ohHey, im having trouble with my samba share, newly created files/directorys over smb share will only have 'xr' permission when created via network. I already set the create mask and directory mask(in smb.conf) to 0775 but that does not work, maybe someone can tell me what im doing wrong here15:37
SmashcatAnyone used an OCZ Agility 4 SSD in Ubuntu. Getting slow speeds from latest install. Got 2 machines, virtually identical except the new one has double the RAM (32GB) and a faster CPU (i7 9770K vs i5 3740). Both have the same MB and boot/OS SSD. The i5 one reports reads of 412MB/sec (10.9GB.sec cached), writes of 429MB/sec. New one reads 410MB/sec (9GB/sec cached), writes 262MB/sec. New...15:37
Smashcat...machine should really be quicker.15:37
xzcvczx`Z`: hmm odd i can't even see your wifi device in lspci15:37
IdleOneRobi33000: make sure that your BIOS are set to boot from USB15:37
`Z`yeah, you do, see the line with device 3290 xzcvczx15:37
xzcvczxiUnify: cheese? does it do video?15:37
iUnifyxzvczczx: i think i looked for cheese with no luck15:38
`Z`it's a realtek 3290 :)15:38
xzcvczx`Z`: what version of ubuntu are you using?15:38
DWSRIdleOne: Again, I am aware of the risks, which is why I'm not doing this command as a purge.15:38
kb3gtn`Z`: possible solution for ralink wifi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210412915:38
xzcvczxoh: mask != mode15:39
DWSRIdleOne: Is there a ubuntu-server meta package?15:39
`Z`kb3gtn, already done15:39
ohokay i will look into that, thanks15:39
`Z`that's how I got my card detected15:39
`Z`Then it was "hard locked" in rfkill15:39
iUnifyrecording... hopefully my computer acts up as usual, thus far nothing... such is my life!15:39
IdleOneDWSR: I don't believe there is15:40
`Z`I found some workaround to solve this problem15:40
DWSRIdleOne: if I want to boot the box to text only mode, is there a grub CLI utility for this or can I just sudoedit15:41
IdleOnethe !nox factoid tells you how15:42
`Z`ok I think im going to get back on debian.15:45
sdrhrgjkngI have a problem... My mouse has developed free will. It instantly moves large distances across the screen every so often. I've tried the mouse on windows so it isn't the mouse. This didn't used to happen.15:45
DWSRIdleOne: No, it doesn't. It links to a page where the sectino header has been removed. The factoid needs updating.15:45
iUnifyxzvczczx: it wont record.  everytime i look back "record" needs to be clicked again15:45
iUnifybut, it starts and says its about to record...5....4...3..2...115:45
thinkinhurtzI created a new users on my system, and now I can not launch libreoffice as any user due to permission error... any help?15:46
GA89hi. need help, installed updates, restarted pc and it just froze  so i shut it down and now ubuntu doesnt load15:46
xzcvczxthinkinhurtz: well whats the persmiision error?15:46
xzcvczxiUnify: hmm odd15:46
GA89error loading shared libraries,15:46
xzcvczxiUnify: try booting from a livecd and see whether same behaviour is experienced15:46
thinkinhurtzit just doesn't launch, but forum posts suggest permission problem.15:47
xzcvczxthinkinhurtz: try launching from command line15:47
iUnifyso, when i installed ubuntu i had it on usb, you mean, boot from there?  or restart and...?15:47
xzcvczxjust use the live version15:48
culpn8ri am trying to connect my wireless but i get "ERROR: Module b43 does not exist in /proc/modules". i never had this issue until i recently upgraded to linux-headers-3.5.0-27-generic on 12.1015:48
GA89any suggestion? should i reinstall?15:48
iUnifyok be back in a few, again, thx for the help15:48
thinkinhurtzno launch, no error message. cant find a verbose option15:48
thinkinhurtzlibre will launch from the command line with sudo however15:48
xzcvczxculpn8r: sudo modprobe b4315:49
culpn8rxzcvczx run that before installing the bcmwl-kernel-source?15:49
xzcvczxculpn8r: well b43 is rubbish anyway, try running jockey or whatever and install the restricted driver for your wifi15:49
xzcvczxthinkinhurtz: well if you have managed to nuke your libreoffice permissions i find it very unlikely all you did was add some users to your system15:50
culpn8rxzcvczx: ive tried using the one in the restricted drivers menu but that doesnt work either. i also have to manually start networking with 'sudo dhclient eth0' just to get ethernet working15:50
iUnifyOK, I didn't get a chance to start live but restart fixed some weirdness.... again, got the system program error right away again... which i get frequently.15:51
betraydiUnify: i think its best you follow the advice to run Live15:52
betraydbec. he has a plan in troubleshooting your original problem15:52
xzcvczxiUnify: did you md5sum your image before you burned/usb'd it?15:52
TakagamiAnyone know if the current beta of Elementary OS supports UEFI?15:53
iUnifyvery possibly not as I don't know what that means.15:53
xzcvczxTakagami: maybe ask in the elemenatry chat room?15:53
TakagamiI did... it's pretty dead in there today15:53
TakagamiI would assume as it is based off the ubuntu core and uses the same installer core...15:54
ohWhen a directory is created with a mask 0775, then group should have write permission correct ?15:54
TakagamiJust wondering if anyone uses it on a UEFI system... or has had experience in here..15:54
xzcvczxwell we are not to know how much divergence there is so not willing to say yay or nay15:54
xzcvczxoh: nope15:54
TakagamiThanks anyways... guess I will just give it a shot when it finished downloading...15:55
Robi33000I need to boot from USB the 1215:55
Robi33000Can you help me15:55
Robi33000I need to boot from USB the 1215:55
Robi33000Can you help me15:55
xzcvczxRobi33000: for the 8th time what os do you run?15:55
xzcvczxRobi33000: each time you never answer any questions15:56
iUnifyAm I going to need to re DL 12.10 and md5 the disk?  I do not have any idea what that means or how to do it.15:56
gp5stis there anyway to get all the data exchanged in an ssh session, my ssh session15:56
xzcvczxRobi33000: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows15:56
xzcvczxiUnify: no i was more curious as to whether you still had the image you downloaded15:57
iUnifythats what i used to create mine15:57
iUnifyi do15:57
iUnifyoh no15:57
iUnifyi have it on the usb15:57
xzcvczxRobi33000: Don't PM without asking first15:57
WACOMaltIs there aNY way to control the fan on a laptop that sensors-detect doesnt find any fan controllers?15:57
iUnifyas is, maybe i saved it packed as well though15:57
xzcvczxiUnify: no i mean the image itself15:57
delocazSo can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the "Xubuntu 12.10" "...." screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.15:58
martylaWhat reason would make my logitech G930 headset cause the unity UI to become unresponsive? (i.e. clicking on any of the HUD doesn't react, can't open/close/maximize etc, however shortcuts like ctrl+alt+T still work and bring up terminal). This occurs on login with about a 50% chance, and logging into guest account and then back to normal user fixes it.15:58
xzcvczxRobi33000: so are you following the link i sent you15:58
* oh 15:58
iUnifyso, should I re-instll?  "System Program Error" sounds rather serious... keeps asking me if the computer locked up, which, it hasen't15:58
xzcvczxmartyla: bluetooth?15:58
* oh 15:59
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xzcvczxohno: must you keep doing /me15:59
xzcvczxiUnify: nah try running live for a bit and see if you get smae issues15:59
iUnifyok, how do i run live?  F2/4 on startup?16:00
xzcvczxdoesn't ubuntu still auto run as live then you install from inside the live environment?16:00
iUnifysorry man, not following you16:01
xzcvczxiUnify: well what happens when you boot off the usb drive normally?16:01
iUnifyi never do16:01
iUnifyi wiped my drive16:01
iUnifyinstalled ubuntu16:02
iUnifyfrom that usb16:02
xzcvczxwell when you install surely you did16:02
iUnifynever use it anymore16:02
FloodBot1iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:02
xzcvczxiUnify: well see whther you can find the option to run live16:02
iUnifyso i should put the usb in and run from there you are saying?16:02
iUnifyfor example, it asks if you want to try before installing16:03
xzcvczxiUnify: thats the one16:03
betraydthats live alright16:03
xzcvczxbetrayd: as opposed to dead? :P16:04
iUnifycool thanks16:04
betraydlol (try with H Keitel voice)16:04
teAnyone know where the logs for this channel are?16:04
theadminte: irclogs.ubuntu.com16:05
teI'm looking at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/ but don't see #ubuntu16:05
kumarat9pmI mess up with my ubuntu..16:05
MonkeyDustte  the logs havnet been updated for some time, few weeks, even16:05
teOh ok.16:05
kumarat9pmI am unable to press contunusly any button..16:05
teThanks anyway.16:06
kumarat9pmI have to press multiple times a key for doing a task repetitivly..16:06
kumarat9pmany suggetion?16:06
teI had a conversation with someone on the 4th and wish I could recall some details about it.  Oh well.16:06
delocazSo can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10" screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.16:06
xzcvczxkumarat9pm: err what do you mean16:06
theadmindelocaz: Might want to wait, it might take a while for the GUI to actually start, especially if running from a slow device16:07
kumarat9pmxzcvczx: for example I want to go to starting of the prompt or some sentences, previously I used to press continuously left arrow, but now I have to press multiple times left arrow to go to starting16:08
jaysqlI am trying to install Abiword on Ubuntu 10.04. However I am short of dependencies, and the OS doesnt have Internet access. I googled and googled. Can you point me in the right direction pls?16:08
tejaysql: I think 10.04 is EOL16:08
jaysqlit is16:08
xzcvczxkumarat9pm: you mean holding it down doesn't work?16:08
sdrhrgjkngFigured it out. Forgot I had my wacom plugged in and the pen had fallen onto the pad.16:08
te(as of just few days ago.)16:08
kumarat9pmyes xzcvczx16:09
delocaztheadmin: I have left it for several hours...16:09
theadmindelocaz: Oh, never mind then, hmm...16:09
leoloveI need a question16:09
leoloveI mean answer :p16:09
xzcvczxkumarat9pm: then check your keyboard settings16:09
jaysqlDoes anyone know where I could get Abiword Dependencies for Offline Install, please?16:09
theadminleolove: 4216:09
leoloveI am running 12.10 at the moment and have problems with my gpu. Should I download and install 12.04 instead?16:09
xzcvczxtheadmin: therefore i need the question to your answer16:09
kumarat9pmxzcvczx: I did I missed it16:10
xzcvczxleolove: what gpu16:10
kumarat9pmthanks for pointing it16:10
xzcvczxkumarat9pm: huh?16:10
leoloveRadeon HD16:10
wilee-nileete, may 9th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases16:10
kumarat9pmI am able to do holding down16:10
theadminjaysql: You can "sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get -d install abiword" on a machine with internet connection, then fetch the packages from  /var/cache/apt/archives/.16:10
theadminjaysql: If not possible, there's always http://packages.ubuntu.com but that'll take a while as manually downloading all deps can be tedious.16:10
jaysqltheadmin, will that include dependencies as well?16:10
kumarat9pmthanks xzcvczx16:10
theadminyacks: Yes16:10
tewilee-nilee: is that the newest?16:10
leoloveubuntu 12.10 does not have stock updates after 3.5.0-2716:11
wilee-nileete, newest, that has always been the date.16:11
tewilee-nilee: Sorry, irrelevant comment.16:11
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* Smashcat is annoyed that a new Agility 4 SSD is actually slower than the old Agility 3. Should have saved money and bought the old one for new build16:11
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leolovewhat is the recent updatae available for 12.04? are they offering 3.8 kernel on 12.04?16:12
leolovevia normal software update ?16:12
theadminleolove: Nope.16:12
tewilee-nilee: You are correct, 10.04 reached EOL on the 9th16:12
theadmin!latest | leolove16:12
ubottuleolove: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:12
wilee-nileeleolove, 3.2.0-40 is the latest16:12
xzcvczxisn't may 9th next month?16:12
leoloveand any experience if 12.04 is better or not with ati proprietary drivers ?16:13
wilee-nileete, No, it reachs eol next month on the 9ty16:13
leoloveI tried with 12.10....no matter what I configure, i always has tearing :(16:13
theadminleolove: Well, they at least work, from what I heard they hardly do in 12.1016:13
leolovetheadmin : so I should get 12.04 instead of 12.10?16:13
zykotick9wilee-nilee: the 10.04 factoid says April for desktop support ending for 10.04?16:13
xzcvczxleolove: i have never had much luck with ati on linux16:13
theadminleolove: My general idea is to always grab LTS unless you just want to play around with latest features.16:14
leolovetheadmin : thank you. I am going to download 12.04 and will be back ;)16:14
MonkeyDusti use the latest, for support purposes16:14
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wilee-nileezykotick9, I see may 9th here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases16:15
SonikkuAmericaMonkeyDust: For support purposes, as opposed to? I would recommend using the !LTS if you're worried about support.16:15
betraydHE does the support16:15
theadminSonikkuAmerica: As in, to provide help to others16:16
leoloveMonkeyDust : You will always get more support for LTS :) It is my experience16:16
betraydhe the man16:16
SonikkuAmerica*facepalm* I knew that... :\16:16
zykotick9wilee-nilee: sure enough.  factoid is wrong.  thanks.  10.04LTS's EOL will be a very sad day for me...16:16
MonkeyDustleolove  i meant *giving* support16:16
SonikkuAmericazykotick9: 12 days, my friend. 12 days.16:16
wilee-nileezykotick9, I thought april as well. ;)16:16
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)16:17
ampdelocaz: are you running an nVidia GT240 by any chance?16:17
SonikkuAmericazykotick9: For me, April 25th will be the end of an ear.16:17
iUnifyalright, so, my boot aparently isn't set to load from USB anymore, so, when I did the restart I hit F2 which brought me to a screen asking if I wanted to boot recovery, whic hI did... the process completly screwed up.... something to the extent of timeout kill..... and, than another screen with options and that timeout kll message just kept screwing up ghosting over the screen.... than it froze... i shut off pc hard, and it started16:17
iUnifyfine... imeadiatly many program system errors.  i am still going to do as you said now and run live but i wanted to give you an update and see if you had anything else to say.16:17
xzcvczxiUnify: redownload the ubuntu image md5sum it and reinstall16:18
SonikkuAmericazykotick9: Or the end of an *ERA I hope (I don't wanna be another Van Gogh)16:18
ohnoxyzIm still trying to get smb folder permission of created directorys to allow writing for the group, conf file says i should set the "directory mask = 0775" to get group write permission but i was told mask = 0775 will not do this ?16:18
Sternslovcsome awful noob questions here, can the movie player (totem) play streamtorrent or ace stream files?16:18
iUnifyok, md5sum, is that  filetype?16:18
theadminohnoxyz: Usually, mask is the opposite of permissions, that is, mask 777 will result in 000 permissions16:18
theadminohnoxyz: Not sure if that's the case for Samba.16:19
theadminohnoxyz: Sounds you want 000216:20
xzcvczxtheadmin: you make it too easy16:20
theadminxzcvczx: ?16:20
zykotick9theadmin: i's call umask a "subtraction" (instead of opposite) of full permissions (your point / example still correct ;)16:20
ohnoxyztheadmin: the smb.conf has comment says "If you want to16:20
ohnoxyz# create dirs. with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775."16:20
theadminohnoxyz: Well, if it's in the comment and you didn't put the comment there, it's gotta be right :P16:20
xzcvczxtheadmin: this is about his 5th nick that he has used now trying to get help with that and i have advised him that mask != mode16:20
ohnoxyztheadmin: well it should be ;)16:21
Sternslovcsorry to be an ass but is anyone able to shed some light on how to open streamtorrent or acestream files on ubuntu?16:24
ohnoxyzxzcvczx: really sorry im changing my nick here, and i tried looking up the difference(mask != mode) but im a bit confused because of the difference what comments in the conf says and what that normal mask behavior is ...16:24
SonikkuAmerica!language | Sternslovc16:25
ubottuSternslovc: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:25
theadminSternslovc: Please watch the language. And you're not being that at all, asking is perfectly reasonable (that's what the channel's here for), but sometimes you may need to wait before you get an answer. If you don't want to sit here waiting, you can use http://askubuntu.com instead.16:25
wilee-nileeSternslovc, those names are not media type descriptions, you have to be exacting.16:25
Sternslovchttp://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=199092&part=sports  On windows, you can click on most of those links16:26
SternslovcI've installed Sopcast to watch some football, but it's in russian.16:26
delocazamp: I have no idea what graphics card it has16:26
iUnifyshould i format my usb as well?16:26
compdocwhich is in russian, Sopcast or the football match?16:27
bekksiUnify: Why do you want to do it?16:27
xzcvczxiUnify: no16:27
SternslovcI've sopcast running, the feed is russian, it's an english game.16:27
xzcvczxiUnify: what device is your usb drive on16:27
SternslovcBut the higher quality English feeds use different streaming methods, acestream and streamtorrent16:27
xzcvczxSternslovc: sorry i am not sure we can help you with illegal streaming methods in here16:28
delocazamp: I think it's integrated something16:28
SternslovcAh ok.16:28
SternslovcIt's not illegal though16:28
iUnifyagain, appoligies, device?  It's plugged into my usb on my laptop.16:28
uwrythembox can go fk itself16:29
SternslovcIn the UK it's illegal to provide the stream but perfectly legal to watch the stream16:29
SternslovcJust gonna scrub up on my russian16:29
ampdelocaz: I had a similar issue with Xubuntu black screen, it was a bug and I had to install nVidia propriety driver16:29
uwI would rather use a realmedia player from the 90's over rythembox16:29
ampdelocaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/99390716:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 993907 in xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (Ubuntu) "[nvidia GT 240] no desktop after X started" [Undecided,New]16:30
iUnifyalso, last time i used a downloaded application to put the files on the usb, i am thinking i should just unzip the iso to the usb this time, correct?16:30
xzcvczxSternslovc: well regardless neither sopcast nor anything like that is remotely related to ubuntu so not the best channel to ask in16:30
xzcvczxiUnify: no16:30
zykotick9delocaz: if you want to find you graphics card, in a terminal try "lspci -vnn | grep -i vga"16:30
xzcvczxiUnify: open up disks16:31
xzcvczxand see whether you can find mention of /dev/sd...16:31
iUnifyhome folder?  devices?16:31
Sternslovcah ok, thanks anyway16:32
iUnifyDon't know how to open disks otherwise.... i juuuust got into linux, sorry to be a pita16:32
xzcvczxiUnify: open up a terminal windows16:32
xzcvczxand type in mount16:32
xzcvczxor df -h and find the one that looks like your usb device16:32
Sternslovclanguage iUnify16:32
iUnifylol, I speak English.16:33
delocazHow do you change your keyboard layout from a terminal?16:33
iUnifyok typed mount16:33
xzcvczxiUnify: now can you find one that looks like it might be your usb drive16:34
delocaz'cause I have no idea where the | key is on an english keyboard16:34
xzcvczxor try df -h and use the size to find the one that is your usb drive16:34
xzcvczxiUnify: or unplug it then plug it in again and straight after run 'dmesg' and look for /dev/sd...16:34
SternslovciUnify:  copy and paste it from wikipedia16:35
zykotick9delocaz: you could try (but this is untested by me on ubuntu) "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"16:35
iUnifyhow do i properly unmount the drive before unplugging?16:35
xzcvczxiUnify: don't worry about it16:35
xzcvczxjust yank it16:35
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iUnifyok and how do i properly paste this info here?16:37
xzcvczxyou don't16:37
xzcvczxpast to pastebin.com if you want to16:37
iUnifyok so im looking for16:37
xzcvczxor figure out which one it is16:37
iUnifystore n go16:37
xzcvczxif you unplugged it and plugged it back in it will be right near the bottom in dmesg16:37
xzcvczxyou are looking for /dev/sdc...16:37
iUnifythat is it.... what ino do i need from it?16:37
zykotick9delocaz: fyi, | is typically above ENTER but needs shift16:38
xzcvczxreplacing ... with a letter and a number probably16:38
xzcvczxor maybe just a letter16:38
rainbowwarriorhello all , have i got a virus or is it something else, as somehow my hd keeps getting full although I am not adding any new software etc , can someone please help me and thank you ?16:38
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: cd /;du -sh *16:39
Sternslovcmine is on \16:39
xzcvczxand it will tell you where its all being used16:39
jaysqlyes it a windows virus.16:39
zykotick9rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to get rid of the errors16:39
rainbowwarriorthank you xzcvczx and zykotick916:40
xzcvczxiUnify: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M16:41
zykotick9rainbowwarrior: is /var really big?16:41
iUnifyand....?  :/  learning....at least! ha.16:42
xzcvczxiUnify: and what?16:42
rainbowwarriorzykotick9 , var is 179.8 MB16:42
iUnifywhat do i do with that info16:42
xzcvczxiUnify: run that command replacing /path/to/ubuntu.iso with the path to the actual iso16:42
zykotick9rainbowwarrior: ;) that's not big...  well good luck.16:42
xzcvczxin a terminal16:42
rainbowwarriorty zykotick916:42
iUnifygotcha sorry man16:42
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: how big is your drive?16:43
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: run df -h and pastebin it16:43
fsapohi, if I install 13.04 beta will I be able to upgrade to the final version or will have to reinstall from scratch?16:43
xzcvczxyou will be able ot upgrade16:44
fsapoxzcvczx ok, thanks.16:44
xzcvczxbut unless you are happy to have a system that may not be 100% its not recommended16:44
xzcvczxfsapo: and for future reference #ubuntu+1 is better for next version discussion16:44
zykotick9rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "df -h | egrep '\''(Size|root|sd)'\'' " ;)  that one might be too fancy.  maybe "df -h | grep sd" is more reasonable.16:44
fsapoxzcvczx thats not a problem, the only problem is having to reconfigure everything, if that was the case I would wait16:45
xzcvczxzykotick9: must you :P16:45
delocazWell, since my problem apparently can't be fixed, i'm gonna try Debian :)16:45
iUnifyxzcvczx: What would the directory be if it's just in my DL folder, under the home folder.... I renamed the file to ubuntu.iso already.16:45
fsapoalso, i read that there are some issues with chrome, will I be able to install chrome?16:45
xzcvczxiUnify: dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M16:46
dr_willisfsapo:  what issues?16:46
xzcvczxfsapo: well i have no idea what these issues are16:46
xzcvczxfsapo: and if its only on 13.04 please discuss in #ubuntu+116:46
dr_willischrme works here16:46
iUnifyx so much, doing this now16:46
iUnifypermission denied16:47
xzcvczxiUnify: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M16:47
rainbowwarriorxzcvczx :- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705270/16:48
zykotick9xzcvczx: using cat instead of dd, was the intended method for creating hybrid iso/usb usb installers.  with ubuntu, that's a little bit harding due to the redirect breaking sudo (but can be done, with sudo 'command' or running sudo -i first.  dd should work just fine, but i'm just saying this isn't "really" the origianlly suggested method.16:48
fsapoxzcvczx I'm looking for the link, but the wiki says it was built with a different lib than 13.04 and chromium should be used instead, but the docs might be outdated16:48
theadminzykotick9: Ubuntu images are hybrid by default, it works just fine. WIth older releases, you may need to preprocess images with "isohybrid" utility first16:49
riobeAnyone else here use pidgin? I installed it from the software center and when I open it or click it from the letter icon in the notification menu, no buddy list or UI comes up at all. I have no idea how to interact with it. Can anyone help?16:49
dr_willisfsapo: it worked yesterday fir me16:49
zykotick9theadmin: i know.  my point, is cat was the originally devised way of creating those usb images.16:49
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: then yeah you will need to run the du -sh * and see where its all being used16:49
xzcvczxfsapo: then #ubuntu+1 please16:49
rainbowwarriorok thank you xzcvczx16:50
fsapook, but anyway https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview its in the Known Issues16:50
* xzcvczx chases zykotick9 with moe sizlacks knife16:50
Sternslovcxzcvczx:  seriously, he's only looking for help16:51
rainbowwarriorhmm biggest is dropbox just over 700 MB lol16:51
xzcvczxSternslovc: no hes not16:51
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: then you did not do the cd /16:52
xzcvczxrainbowwarrior: you want to start at the root of the drive and go from there16:52
rainbowwarrioryeah sorry my fault forgot to cd /16:52
SternslovcPerhaps he/she is like Bono then16:52
riobeLooks like restarting it fixed it.16:52
SternslovcAs they still haven't found what they are looking for16:53
xzcvczxSternslovc: i refer you to the messages from zykotick9 at 4:39 and 4:44 and 4:48 as to my good reasons for chasing him down with a knife :P16:54
xzcvczxreplace 4: with the hour that it currently is in your corner of the world16:55
Sternslovcwhere on earth are you?16:56
Sternslovcoh not 16 4, fookin ell16:56
Sternslovcmiles away16:56
xzcvczxSun Apr 14 04:56:57 NZST 201316:56
Sternslovcin that land with the confusing flag16:57
xzcvczxhows it confusing?16:57
xzcvczxbecause it has the union crack on it16:57
DarkAceZHow do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?16:57
kelabothey guys is it normal when i create a bucket "xyz" in s3 and go to http://xyz.s3.amazonaws.com -- it will show "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below" -- is this normal?16:58
Sternslovcall those stars16:58
xzcvczxkelabot: not ubuntu related16:58
SternslovcAustralia newzealands cook islands?16:58
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kelabotxzcvczx: if someone may know16:58
SonikkuAmericaxzcvczx: The heck is the union crack16:59
wilee-nileeunion jack16:59
wilee-nileeheh I was just watching foghorn leghorn the southern rooster, lol17:00
SonikkuAmericawilee-nilee: Never knew there was so much disrespect for the British flag.17:01
Vivekanandacan someone point me to libre office channel. I am looking for templates and wanted to ask about resume templates there17:01
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: #libreoffice ?17:01
DJones!alis | Vivekananda17:01
ubottuVivekananda: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*17:01
theadminVivekananda: #libreoffice17:01
Sternslovchttp://i.imgur.com/KNmQ2aZ.png  not entirely ubuntu related17:02
SonikkuAmerica!ot | Sternslovc, thought I'd let you know17:02
ubottuSternslovc, thought I'd let you know: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:02
iUnifyso i am good to go now?17:02
xzcvczxSonikkuAmerica: its not really disrespect.... it was just an accidental mistype.... the letters are so close together17:02
DJonesSternslovc: If its not Ubuntu releated, why post it here then?17:02
xzcvczxiUnify: so the command finished?17:02
SonikkuAmericaxzcvczx: lol17:02
wilee-nileeSonikkuAmerica, They were the ultimate imperialist power before the U.S. took over.17:02
xzcvczxSonikkuAmerica: in saying that i wish we would get a real flag instead of our currento ne17:03
iUnifyyes. 763+0 records in   |   763+0 records out   |   800063488 bytes (800 MB) copied, 138.787 s, 5.8 MB/s17:03
xzcvczxthen good to go17:03
* DJones points xzcvczx to #ubuntu-offtopic17:03
VivekanandaDJones: thanks17:03
SonikkuAmerica!ot | wilee-nilee, xzcvczx, I'm done talking, lol17:03
ubottuwilee-nilee, xzcvczx, I'm done talking, lol: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:03
EaglemanI am having some problems with DNS, i am unable to resolve anything with dig:  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached  I disabled my firewall, tried restarting bind9 ( I am running my own dns server for caching ) but nothing works, any idea why it stopped working?17:05
VivekanandaDJones: one typing /ms g   alis help libreoffice it says -- Returning maximum of 60 channel names matching 'libreoffice'. But where do I see this list .17:05
iUnifygood then?17:05
Sternslovcdoes someone else's ie google DNS work?17:05
DJonesVivekananda: You should get another window opening with the list17:06
zykotick9Vivekananda: look for a private message from alis, or in your "root" irc window17:06
EaglemanSternslovc, you are asking if works?17:06
xzcvczxEagleman: dig @ stuff.co.nz17:07
VivekanandaDJones: nope nothing here , no pm s17:07
Vivekanandaclient is xchat on ubuntu precise17:07
Eaglemanxzcvczx, no responde17:07
Eaglemanxzcvczx, pff, i just did route -n and the default route is gone17:08
DJonesVivekananda: I don't use xchat, probably better if you join #freenode and ask there17:08
Vivekanandaok will do17:08
ineedahelpacan somone help me17:08
EaglemanSo the question would be: Why is my default route being reset to nothing when restarting my ubuntu server?17:08
DJonesineedahelpa: We don't know, you haven't asked a support question yet17:09
netherlands6Hi I just install ubuntu 13.04 and follow the tutorial mentionning windows 8 system with uefi and I created an /boot/efi and during the installation ask to put the grub on this partition but when installation done and restarting I got an error said that I have no grub17:09
ineedahelpai need money17:10
DJonesineedahelpa: Well, wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support17:10
ineedahelpaDJones:  i need money so i can buy new laptop to instal ubunto on it ok?17:11
DJonesineedahelpa: We can't help with that17:11
EaglemanSince when can you get loans here?17:11
netherlands6lol is an community help channel not gouvernement financial17:12
ineedahelpai am just kiding17:12
xzcvczxnetherlands6: please use #ubuntu+117:12
ineedahelpai need help whit wifi driwers17:12
DJonesineedahelpa: In that case, remember this is a support channel, offtopic comments should be made in another channel17:13
EaglemanWhy is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?17:13
ineedahelpai want to use win drivers but dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet17:13
iUnifyam i good with those results to install now?17:13
Lartzaineedahelpa, How are you on IRC?17:13
zykotick9For anyone interested in Vivekananda's alis problem, when i tried it same thing "returning max of 60 channels..." but no output?  you need to use *s in your search so, "/msg alis list *libreoffice*" works with results.17:13
MonkeyDustzykotick9  that's the normal way, yes17:14
ineedahelpaLartza: dont understand what is a point of your quiestion?17:14
Lartzaineedahelpa, "dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet"17:14
zykotick9MonkeyDust: without * it doesn't, this isn't my expected grep-like behaviour ;)17:14
DJoneszykotick9: Probably best notifying #freenode as alis is their bot17:14
isuruhey guys i using a dongle for internet conncection but i can't view sms on current connectivity tool please tell me tool to get dongle sms and send sms ?17:15
zykotick9DJones: it's thanks to Vivekananda asking in #freenode, i got the answer17:15
MonkeyDustzykotick9  * is quite commonly used to look for a name17:15
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debbie_i am having trouble with youtube-screenlets, can anyone help me17:15
xzcvczxisuru: most likely not possible17:15
ineedahelpaLartza:  aaaaaaaaaa now i get i am on other sistem17:15
xzcvczxisuru: you will need to ask the manufacturer of the device or provider17:15
ineedahelpaLartza:  dual boot17:15
xzcvczxiUnify: yeah install17:16
isuruThat a huwai dongle17:16
Lartzaineedahelpa, Then I would suggest moving the .deb packages to your Ubuntu and installing offline17:16
EaglemanWhy is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?17:16
xzcvczxisuru: doesn't change anything.... the software they release is only for windows, so you can use windows or complain to huawei that there is no linux software17:16
Lartzaineedahelpa, Either by mounting partitions of the other systems or a removable media17:16
xzcvczxEagleman: is your dhcp server setting it correctly?17:17
xzcvczxEagleman: if its set up manually its not designed to be retained across reboots unless you store it in the correct configuration files17:17
Eaglemanxzcvczx, its not smart to run a "server" on a dhcp address, i am using a static address17:17
BluesKajineedahelpa, download ndiswrapper  , copy to a stick and plug the stick into the ubuntu machine17:17
ineedahelpaLartza:  so i just make install thet .deb package or do i need some more tools17:17
xzcvczxEagleman: where do you configure the default route then?17:17
Lartzaineedahelpa, dpkg -i, no make install17:17
Lartzaineedahelpa, Download the correct one for your release and architechture from packages.ubuntu.com17:18
Eaglemanxzcvczx, can it be set in /etc/network/interfaces?17:18
ineedahelpaLartza:  this will download dpkg but wont install it so i will heave setup17:18
Lartzaineedahelpa, ?17:18
xzcvczxEagleman: well check the documentation17:19
ineedahelpaLartza:  look i am noob17:20
Eaglemanxzcvczx, ok thanks, looks like: gateway   does the trick17:20
Lartzaineedahelpa, Download the deb files from packages.ubuntu.com, move them to Ubuntu with any method you like, USB etc and install them with dpkg17:21
xzcvczxineedahelpa: a noob asks for hints doesn't demand hand holding17:21
ineedahelpaLartza:  ok i download deb pacages then move them to usb and i install them whit dpkg command?17:22
MrUnagiIs it possible to use an active rsync transfer to set up a reverse ssh17:22
Robi33000the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why17:22
Robi33000it did no fix on hd17:22
Robi33000the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why17:22
Robi33000it did no fix on hd17:22
ineedahelpaLartza:  sorry just i newer used dpkg command so i dident know what wher you talikning about thanks for help17:22
Lartzaineedahelpa, If you have problems remember that there's man :)17:23
neopsycheHi all.. trying to access ubuntu share not working anyone know how?17:23
neopsycheI can see the share .. but there is a timeout.. / inaccessible17:23
SonikkuAmericaLartza: And woman, ready to help you help us help you help us all.17:23
Vivekanandazykotick9: :) good work17:23
neopsycheusing SAMBA17:23
zykotick9Vivekananda: thank you!17:24
LartzaSonikkuAmerica, Okay17:24
SonikkuAmerica(I know what you're talking about)17:24
MrUnagiI dunno how to ask what im trying to do,...it's probably not possible.....rsync works over ssh right?17:24
DarkAceZHow do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?17:25
MonkeyDustMrUnagi  yes17:25
LartzaDarkAceZ, temporarily or permanently?17:25
zykotick9MonkeyDust: rsync CAN work over ssh (or nfs, or local)17:25
DarkAceZit's currently 102417:26
DarkAceZI think17:26
MrUnagiMonkeyDust: Is it possible to use a running rsync to start a reverse ssh?17:26
ineedahelpaLartza:  i want for 12.04 thet is precise ?17:26
Lartzaineedahelpa, Yes17:26
ineedahelpaok ty17:26
MonkeyDustMrUnagi  rsync copies data, not sure what you mean17:26
DarkAceZI edited /etc/security/limits.conf17:27
neopsychecan someone help me setup SQUID server?17:27
MrUnagiMonkeyDust: Im sure im not making sense lol17:27
DarkAceZI added '*                hard    nofile          4096' to the end of the file17:27
LartzaDarkAceZ, I think that just raises the allowed limits of ulimit command?17:27
DarkAceZwell then I'm not sure what I'm doing17:27
MonkeyDustMrUnagi  rsync is similar to scp, where cp means copy17:27
DarkAceZbut my xchat has hit the open file limit17:27
DarkAceZand it glitching17:28
DarkAceZtoo many log files open, I'd like to set it to 409617:28
DarkAceZthe open file limit, I mean17:28
LartzaDarkAceZ, /etc/sysctl.conf fs.file-max = 409617:28
LartzaDarkAceZ, I am not sure if that works17:28
MrUnagiI guess im trying to reach my computer in the office over ssh through a remote server....I thought if a path from the office to the server is open, I could find a way to ssh to the office machine from the server which I have access to17:28
LartzaDarkAceZ, Then logout or run sysctl -p17:29
Lartzaand cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max17:29
DarkAceZalright, lemme try17:29
ineedahelpaLartza:  ther are 3 pacages what shoud i downaload17:29
LartzaDarkAceZ, Hang on...17:29
ineedahelpawant a link?17:29
LartzaDarkAceZ, That actually raises the system wide limit... is that only 1024?17:29
nmittalhello ppl.. how do i check the max # of file open allowed by my system?17:30
LartzaDarkAceZ, and /etc/security/limits.conf should work...17:30
LartzaDarkAceZ, I've not done this for a very long time so :/17:30
nmittali am running Linux goofy 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:30
ineedahelpaLartza:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/1.57-1ubuntu1 what of this 3 packets i need17:30
DarkAceZis there any command I should be running after editing the /etc/security/limits.conf?17:30
MonkeyDustnmittal  what's linux goofy?17:30
nmittalMonkeyDust, goofy is the hostname17:30
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LartzaDarkAceZ, Have you tried "soft" instead of "hard"?17:31
DarkAceZshould I?17:31
LartzaDarkAceZ, Set soft to 4096 and hard to 10240 in /etc/security/limits.conf17:31
LartzaLike you already did with hard17:31
LartzaDarkAceZ, Then relog to be sure, and check with ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn17:32
Vivekanandacan I ask libreoffice questions here ?17:32
nmittal cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max returns 2436928 which is pretty large but I am thinking maybe the user limit is smaller17:32
Vivekanandathe official site seems no one is there17:32
Lartzaineedahelpa, Who told you to go to launchpad?... http://packages.ubuntu.com/17:32
ineedahelpaLartza:  i google it sorry17:33
ineedahelpaLartza: is this ok http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/ndiswrapper17:33
LartzaVivekananda, Ubuntu related yes, otherwise maybe ;)17:33
Lartzaineedahelpa, Nope, wrong page17:33
ineedahelpaLartza:  meybe help me to much tarded17:34
KroachI want to check for lines that contain either of two given strings, how can I do that? I was trying to get grep to do that but so far o luck17:34
Vivekanandayes but then is libreoffice , ubuntu related. If not I dont want to jeopardize my chances of talking in this channel coz this channel is very helpful for lots of other things17:34
Lartzanmittal, ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn show you the open limits for current user17:34
bogorVivekananda: egrep "string1|string2" file17:34
zykotick9Kroach: check out egrep17:34
DarkAceZLartza, alright, back in a few minutes (xchat takes a bit to start up17:35
bogorVivekananda: btw, qouting is important in that17:35
snugglKroach: grep -e "foo" -e "bar"17:35
Lartzabogor, You are hilighting the wrong person17:35
nmittalLartza, H is 4096 and S is 1024.. whats the difference?17:35
jaysqlwhat is foo ?17:35
ineedahelpaLartza:  can you give me a link i think i am too much tarded17:35
Lartzanmittal, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/29577/ulimit-difference-between-hard-and-soft-limits17:36
Kroachsnuggl: worked, thanks17:36
bogorThanks Lartza , Actaully i meant Lartza , Sorry Vivekananda17:36
snuggljaysql: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar17:36
jaysqlI am soft at the moment, can you make me hard?17:36
Lartzanmittal, That will probably explain it well enough, and better than I can17:36
jaysqllol jk17:36
bogorMy bad day. Lot of messign up17:36
nmittalLartza, reading it17:36
Lartzaineedahelpa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all17:36
LartzaYou will probably want all of those17:36
ineedahelpai have a new problem17:38
nmittalLartza, understood.. how do I increase the limits ? security/limits.conf?17:38
SonikkuAmerica!details | ineedahelpa17:38
ubottuineedahelpa: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."17:38
Lartzanmittal, Yeah "username <soft/hard> nofile <limit>"17:39
LartzaAt least it should work ;)17:40
nmittalLartza, and is it safe to set it rediculously high? like 1m?17:40
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica: i dont know wher to click to downaload17:40
Lartzanmittal, Umm... I don't know17:40
SonikkuAmericaineedahelpa: Download what?17:40
Lartzanmittal, I would assume yes... except if it ever hit 1m something would be wrong17:40
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all niswraper packages17:40
Lartzanmittal, Basically someone could hurt your system performance on a shared system if you set their open file limit high but for your user... I don't know17:41
nmittalLartza, i see.. well no one else uses this system.. so only I could bring it down ;-)17:41
Lartzanmittal, Yeah it should be safe to set it high17:42
nmittalLartza, is there a way to check how many files are open at the moment17:42
neopsychesamba share not showing files?17:42
* jaysql dances to the samba rhythm17:42
SonikkuAmericaineedahelpa: Is this with or without Internet?17:42
uvalamiro doesnt convert videos to mp3 anymore (and this for a long while), can I fix this somehow?17:43
Lartzanmittal, Umm... "lsof | grep ' root ' | awk '{print $NF}' | sort | wc -l" from google :)17:43
Lartzareplace root with username17:43
bogoruvala: ffmepg can do that. AFAIK, it is a cli tool17:43
uvalabogor, what is ffmepg and afaik? do I need to install them?17:44
MonkeyDustuvala  use soundconverter, i tried it succesfully17:44
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica: i have internet now but i will not heve it when i go unubtu beacuse wifi dont work17:44
uvalamonkeydust, can I sudo apt-get it?17:44
nmittalLartza, that command for my user returns 29182.. but my hard limit is 409617:44
nmittalLartza, howz that possible17:44
Lartzanmittal, Umm :D17:44
Lartzanmittal, Computing!17:44
MonkeyDustuvala  yes17:44
Lartzanmittal, I don't know sorry17:45
SonikkuAmericaineedahelpa: Check this page out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper17:45
bogoruvala: ffmepg is a tool that supports such conversions. AFAIK is as far as i know. ffmeg is very popular tool and lot of apps use it in backend17:45
nmittalLartza, ok no worries.. thanks for your help17:45
bogoruvala: you install it with apt-get install ffmpeg17:45
rajuuvala,  dont forget adding sudo .you need to be root.17:46
uvalamonkeydust and bogor, thank you very much, started installing soundconverter now, will try with ffmpeg, too, if I still need to17:46
BluesKajraju, when using sudo you have root permissions17:47
rajuBluesKaj, to install any application we need to be root right , thats what I have suggested .17:47
bogoruvala: it is command line tool. So check the man pages or internet for the options best suit needs.17:47
rajuuvala, http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html read this. this will let you know what exactly you can do with ffmpeg.17:48
janisozaurhow can i set my serial port speed to something like 1382400? stty seems to not consider that as valid speed (screen however has no problems with that)17:48
uvalabogor, thank you, I will keep this tool in mind, for now soundconverter seems to do the trick, converting the file17:48
uvalathank you raju!17:48
rajuuvala,  :)17:48
neopsychewhy is ubuntu share not showing files?17:49
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica:  i founded out i done even need niswraper beacuse i cant extract anything from windowswifidriver.exe so i am screwed17:51
SonikkuAmericaineedahelpa: What.17:51
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica:  do you know meybe how to install linux driwer i downloaded it from internet but it wont make install it gives errors17:52
bogorineedahelpa: thats why there is apt-get . So that you dont have to do make install and solve the errors it throws.17:53
SonikkuAmericaineedahelpa: Can you !pastebin them?17:53
ineedahelpabogor:  i dont have internet so apt-get wont help me smartass17:53
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica:  what to pastbin17:54
SonikkuAmericaThe output of your [ make install ] for your driver17:54
BluesKajineedahelpa, not everyone is aware of your situation , please refreain from insults and bad language17:54
ineedahelpasoory w817:55
ineedahelpai cant i been thet road i go cry17:56
ineedahelpameybe return leater17:56
deffragHello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and while updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/ . Could anyone help understand the problem and solve it?17:59
ineedahelpaSonikkuAmerica:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705481/17:59
uvalajust curious, why is conversion no more possible with miro? has anything changed in miro concerning this?17:59
ineedahelpaneuvaljuj se17:59
ineedahelpai just read thet 12.10 supports my card automatick18:00
Lartzahanun, Hello18:01
ineedahelpacan somone explan me why is newer wersion 12.10 supoerted only for 18 monts and older 12.04 for 5 years18:01
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Lartzaineedahelpa, LTS18:01
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)18:01
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Lartzaineedahelpa, Why did you install 12.04?18:02
Lartzaineedahelpa, I just realised18:02
hanunhas anybody tries manjaro linux18:02
Lartzahanun, #ubuntu-offtopic, or rather arch linux offtopic...18:02
ineedahelpai know what lts means just dont understend why 12.10 will be suporterd smaller time then this18:02
hanunokay sry18:02
DJoneshanun: That not a supported version of Ubuntu18:02
ineedahelpaLartza:  beacuse i thinked thet 12.04 is bether if it is suported more time18:03
jaysqlubuntu is arch linux18:03
Lartzaineedahelpa, No...18:03
DJonesjaysql: Enough trolling18:03
ineedahelpaLartza:  can i go cry now?18:04
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Lartzaineedahelpa, It's more stable for servers etc18:04
Lartzaineedahelpa, Yes18:04
Lartzaineedahelpa, You can update to 12.10 or reinstall :)18:04
ineedahelpaLartza:  no i want fress install i will delete whole hard and fress install18:05
Lartzaineedahelpa, That is probably better18:05
ineedahelpaLartza:  i installed first  zorin to figur out what is hepening in linux now i learnd some beasics18:05
ineedahelpabest thin in ubuntu iz compiz WoblyWindow and you dont need to reinstall evry 5moths like tarded windows18:06
LartzaCompiz... okay18:08
ineedahelpahow to change wher is x bution on window in ubuntu i want to be on right side of folder like in windows18:08
rasehello guys i have a question i need to install ubuntu to a laptop with usb but the usb port is not configured and i don't have accsess to bios cause it's pass protected it's an very old computer so my question is shall i push it with network install and yes then how to go about doing that the easy way or is there a way to fix the usb PS i am atm booted into a old Helix resuce disk and it has a ubuntu 9.0.9 on it and the usb is showing th18:09
ineedahelpai dont use compiz for anything more just wobly window18:09
raseinstall from there so my question is there a way to make the usb start it's install when i'm inside the old ubuntu??18:09
DJones!controls | ineedahelpa18:09
ubottuineedahelpa: Starting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263318:09
ineedahelpai am not smart but i think you can18:09
ineedahelpaubottu:  ty18:10
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)18:10
jaysqlubottu stop trolling18:10
delocazSo as I asked before, how do I get Xubuntu to boot up from the live cd? It currently blackscreens after the screen with 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10". It runs Debian fine, though.18:11
raseanyone have an idea on my question?18:11
Lartza:) poor jaysql18:11
ineedahelpai think i have18:11
ineedahelparase:  but i am no expert18:12
wilee-nileedelocaz, I have seen users have a summed disc be correct and not work, but a reburn fixed it at a slower speed.18:12
ineedahelparase: can you acces your usb from your old ubuntu18:12
rasei just can't boot it from the boot menu18:12
delocazwilee-nilee: I'll try reburning.18:13
vilgaxanybody know if there is developers ppa for nmap 6.2518:13
ineedahelparase:  if can you shoud find install.sh(or what is i am still used to exe) like in live usb and run it18:13
Lartzaineedahelpa, That will not work...18:13
raselet me check18:13
wilee-nileerase, You can loop mount the ISO in a partiton with grub 218:13
Lartzarase, Won't work, you can't just run the installer from a running system18:13
delocazHmm... is Xubuntu 13.04 beta 2 stable enough?18:13
ineedahelpaLartza:  i told i am no expert18:13
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DJonesdelocaz: Ask in #ubuntu+1 they may be able to tell you18:14
Lartzaineedahelpa, All the partitions are mounted and locked, files in use and locked, not to mention you are wiping the system that ran the installer18:14
delocaz...i'll just stick with 12.1018:14
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ineedahelpaLartza:  i thinked it is like windows in when you ran widows it copy to hard then restarts and continuse install18:15
LartzaDoes rm -rf / remove root actually?18:15
Lartzaineedahelpa, No18:15
ubottuDO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!18:15
ineedahelpaLartza:  ok i go cry more18:15
raseso how would i do this then?18:15
harrishas anyone read nothing but the truth recently18:15
Lartzaineedahelpa, There are ways to install some distros from a running one but18:15
rasewilee-nilee: how to i access that?18:15
harrisor is there a channel for it18:15
LartzaSonikkuAmerica, I actually ran it, it halted itself :318:15
DJonesharris: You know the rules, this is a support channel18:16
SonikkuAmericaLucky you Lartza.18:16
wilee-nileerase, Thanks always use nicks. ;)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot18:16
LartzaSonikkuAmerica, I was continuin it and pressed enter accidentally :)18:16
ineedahelpaDoes rm -rf / remove root actually? why is this dangerus18:16
DarkAceZLartza, I'm back from the dead18:16
Lartzaineedahelpa, It could :318:16
ineedahelpais it like sudo su18:16
DarkAceZhow am I supposed to check if it's been changed, now?18:16
ineedahelpai go cry i am too noob to be smart18:17
rasewilee-nilee: inside grub from terminal thats how far i have come18:17
wilee-nileeineedahelpa, It is a wipe command18:17
LartzaDarkAceZ, ulimit -Hn and umm...18:17
DarkAceZ$ ulimit -Hn18:17
wilee-nileeineedahelpa,Just depends what you point it at.18:17
ineedahelpaty i go cry more18:17
wilee-nileerase, This just adds the iso to the grub menu, if you have the grub bootloader.18:18
ineedahelpacan somone give me money i have no job?18:18
LartzaDarkAceZ, ulimit -Sn18:18
DarkAceZ$ ulimit -Sn18:18
LartzaDarkAceZ, I am assuming you set hard and soft to those values so it worked :)18:18
Lartzaineedahelpa, Get a job18:19
DarkAceZI'll know it a minute, thanks for your help so far!18:19
rasei'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now18:19
ineedahelpaLartza:  i would but i cant i live in Serbia18:19
rasewilee-nilee: i'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now (forgot nick)..18:19
wilee-nileerase, That is end of life, I assume you know this.18:19
tushfrom where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version18:19
eczleaHello, whenever I type yahoo and press ctrl+Enter , it redirects me to au.yahoo.com instead of in.yahoo.com. This has happened today only.what's going wrong?18:20
wilee-nileerase, Nor is it grub 2.18:20
eczleaThis is both -chrome and firefox browser18:20
rasewilee-nilee: i know it's an very old one but thats all i had on cd (all i could mange to boot into)..18:20
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: It likes the Big Bash T20 better than the IPL I think. :) Try clearing your cache and cookies maybe?18:21
eczleahaha SonikkuAmerica . Already tried that. Ran bleach bit too but the problem persists :S18:21
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: (By the way, MI and CSK won their matches today) Go to System Settings > Language Support and see what's selected...18:22
rasewilee-nilee: no more cd's to burn only got the ubuntu new version on an usb stick thats all i have but the usb is not showing in the boot menu to boot from that and bios is locked so i'm basicly f..ed until fix it from network or something else i was hoping to start it using the rescue cd and boot it from with in like u do windows but that might not be possible or so on..18:22
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wilee-nileerase, Is the computer to old to boot a usb, you can use plop to boot it.18:23
wilee-nileeIf you have a windows install you can run plop from there without a cd18:24
rasewilee-nilee: not to old just been disabled to boot from i guess18:24
eczleaSonikkuAmerica, English(UNited states) and English only. Rest all are greyed out18:24
wilee-nileerase, There is a boot from menu not in the bios are you aware of this?18:24
rasewilee-nilee: yes but the options only has network flopy and cd in that menu as well18:25
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: I hate to say it but purge and reinstall your browser maybe?18:25
eczleahmm okay SonikkuAmerica18:26
eczleawill flushing DNS help SonikkuAmerica ?18:26
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: It might18:26
wilee-nileerase, I wonder if the usb is being seen, and or if the bios or this other bootmenu needs to sense the usb to show a boot option.18:26
rasewilee-nilee: not sure18:27
eczleano luck SonikkuAmerica :(18:28
MerkidemisI have a lucid server, and am getting an error 101 Network is unreachable. [IP 2001:67c:1360:8c:10::18].  I can ping archive.ubuntu.com just fine.  Am I correct in thinking I should disable ipv6?18:28
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: You may just have to type out the full name in.yahoo.com for now then...18:29
LartzaI've tried running bloodhound or gitlab, checked that gitorious is a pain to install on Ubuntu and no proper instructions even, what else are there??18:30
LartzaI want git support and support for multiple projects18:30
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tozen_hi all does anybody tried co configure /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh to get startup colored?18:31
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razewilee-nilee: sorry got disconnected :P18:32
zykotick9Lartza: i'm not a developer, but the various git services came to my attention the other day.  this wiki page has a nice comparison of some of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities18:32
eczleaSonikkuAmerica, removed google chrome. But even firefox redirects. So shall i uninstall it too?18:32
SonikkuAmericaYes, [ sudo apt-get purge firefox ; sudo apt-get install firefox ]18:33
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Lartzazykotick9, I am looking for something I can deploy on my own server18:34
zykotick9Lartza: ahhh, that's much better!  no SAAS ;)18:34
delocazwilee-nilee: burning at a slower speed did not help at all... The cursor still appears, stays for a few seconds, then goes away, then reappears in a loop18:34
delocazIt runs Debian atm, but I'd like Xubuntu18:35
tushfrom where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version18:36
wilee-nileedelocaz, Strange, there are a number of other optons in that f6 menu, however I'm lost as to where to go though. You might look on the web with the computer model and or hardware using those options in the foo, it is probably is another graphic command added, as a guess.18:36
ahalversontush: have you checked additional drivers?18:37
delocazwilee-nilee: Thing is, I have 0 idea what the specs are, other than everything is Silicon Integrated Systems18:37
tushahalverson, like???18:37
razewilee-nilee: if i just get an iso of ubuntu downloaded can't i mount that iso like with something like deamon tools to make it thinks it's a cd drive and then run it??18:37
delocazAnd it has an Intel Celeron18:37
ahalversonjust checking18:37
tushahalverson, from where do i check additional drivers18:38
dr_willisraze:  no.. you boot the cd/make a live usb from it..18:38
dr_willis!install | raze18:38
ubotturaze: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:38
MrGizmo757Anybody familiar with ffmpeg?  i am trying to do a screen cast but my audio is out of sync. i can't figure out how to fix it.18:38
ahalversonsearch "additional drivers in the dash and click on the icon18:38
MerkidemisWould anyone be able to assist me in resolving my 101 Network is unreachable errror I am getting when I try to apt-get update?18:38
wilee-nileedelocaz, Look up the computer on the web, you could also just do a netinstall with a mini ISO, It might load the right stuff, and or at least give you a installed system to tinker with.18:38
tushahalverson, in software center18:39
razewilee-nilee: any ideas?18:39
tozen_Merkidemis: which server do u use?18:39
BluesKajtush, run aplay -l in a terminal , and pastebin the output18:39
MerkidemisI am trying to connect to http://archive.ubuntu.com18:40
ahalversontush: normally drivers arent found in the software center, so if you can't find it in additional drivers, google the name of the card and the "ubuntu"18:40
delocazwilee-nilee: Where do i get a netinst iso?18:40
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:40
tozen_Merkidemis: try to chanche to Main18:40
wilee-nileeraze, The only thing I have seen is the grub 2 mount in a partition, I am lucky to not have had to mess around in this area. ;)18:40
Merkidemistozen_: ok, one sec18:40
tushahalverson, check http://pastebin.com/952CK22v18:41
Merkidemistozen_: though oddly enough, I can ping the address just fine...18:41
BluesKajMrGizmo757, run it with mplayer to see if the audio is still out of sync18:41
wilee-nileedelocaz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD18:41
razewilee-nilee:  same here but friend asked me to help out and i wan't him to join the linux club! so i need to find a way :P18:41
MrGizmo757i did.  its out of sync in VLC. OpenShot and mplayer18:41
wilee-nilee;) understandable Raz_away18:41
ahalversonwill do18:41
tozen_Merkidemis: in update-manager setting just try to change your current server to Main18:41
wilee-nileeRaz_away, sory18:42
delocazwilee-nilee: Where do I get a Xubuntu mini image? That was just regular ubuntu18:42
Merkidemistozen_: this is a command line only server install18:42
tushahalverson, in addititonal drivers showing me only Nvidia Drivers thats it18:42
SonikkuAmericadelocaz: www.xubuntu.org18:42
wilee-nileedelocaz, I don't see one, however you can on that mini I believe choose the desktop,18:43
eczleaSonikkuAmerica, no luck yet :(18:43
zykotick9MrGizmo757: i use a hack solution with ffmpeg (for some content), using -async 30 and -r 30.  but i wouldn't recommend actually using these!  i really have NO idea what they mean do.  but it got my audio/video mainly together in my case.18:43
BluesKajMrGizmo757, screencast ? pls expalin18:43
Merkidemistozen_: for example, the first one in my sources list is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted18:43
BluesKajtush, did you run aplay -l ?18:43
wilee-nileedelocaz, The mini has choices for multiple types of servers and desktops, all you need is to choose the desktop.18:43
tozen_Merkidemis: pastebin spurces.list.d please18:43
tozen_Merkidemis: pastebin sources.list.d please18:43
delocazwilee-nilee: ty18:43
MrGizmo757i read something about -async. i am not totally for sure where it goes in the command though.18:44
ahalversontush: just sec18:44
MrGizmo757this is the command i use.      ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i default -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | grep 'geometry' | awk '{print $2;}') -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq -f mpeg -ar 48000 -s 1366x768 -y capture.mp418:44
tushBluesKaj, , yes http://pastebin.com/952CK22v18:44
wilee-nileedelocaz, No problem, hope that gets you up and running. ;)18:44
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: Hmmm...18:45
Merkidemistozen_: the directory or do you just want the sources.list file?18:45
ahalversontush, what is the full name of your sound card?18:45
zykotick9MrGizmo757: i'd "guess" that -r 25 is setting a frame rate of 25... that may, or may not, be an issue.18:45
tushahalverson, Creative Elite Pro18:45
tozen_Merkidemis: just sources.list18:45
Merkidemistozen_: ok, one moment18:46
eczleaSonikkuAmerica, why does yahoo think I am from australia when I am not from AU !18:46
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delocazeczlea: Did you choose Australia when you installed Ubuntu?18:46
zykotick9eczlea: you said this changed with multiple browsers right?  if that's the case, it's a DNS issue - nothing to do with ubuntu.18:46
BluesKajtush , that's strange , open alsamixer and check the chip in the upper left18:46
ahalversontush: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/27467/get-creative-soundcard-working-correctly18:46
eczleanot at all delocaz18:47
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: For the same reason people think I'm not American because I prefer cricket over baseball... but yeah, delocaz might have something18:47
Merkidemistozen_: http://pastebin.com/zgFCJWnC18:47
eczleayeah it did zykotick9 . So how to fix this DNS issue (if it can be fixed?) I did sudo /etc/init.d/ncsd restart18:47
zykotick9eczlea: DNS or Yahoo... but either way, not ubuntu related.18:47
eczleazykotick9, that was nice way to tell me to leave #ubuntu :P18:48
MrGizmo757Well the Video itself looks fine.  the audio is behind. the longer the recording is the more out of sync it gets.   that would be a bitrate issue wouldn't it?18:48
tushBluesKaj, ahalverson one thing i want to clear Sound coming from Speakers fine, but not from Headphone which i use from IO pannel of Sound card18:48
zykotick9eczlea: no, that was a way of saying this is related to things outside of #ubuntu's and probably your control.18:49
MrGizmo757i dont know though. i am kind of a noob with ffmpeg18:49
ahalversontush: oooooooohhhhhhh, that changes everything18:49
eczleadelocaz, the redirects to in.yahoo.com worked fine all this while.I got this strange problem today only. Will restart the router and check.18:49
tushahalverson, means18:49
tmsHey Folks, I was curious if there was any equivalent to growl for the whole linux thing. Basically I SSH from my laptop to my workstation almots constantly and run finch there. Problem is, on the laptop I see no notifications at all. A system like growl where I could forward notficiations around would be ideal, but google doesn't seem to have much for me18:49
tmsany ideas?18:49
eczleazykotick9, ok. I was just joking.Thanks for help . SonikkuAmerica and delocaz !18:49
ahalversontush: let me think18:49
Biomechdhey guys, i'm trying to set up my hdtv as a secondary monitor so i can use it to watch movies when i want to, but i'm having difficulty getting it to display my desktop properly.18:49
tushahalverson, drivers not working for IO pannel of elite pro card18:49
zykotick9MrGizmo757: if the frame rate of teh video and audio don't match, they'll be out of sync.18:49
SonikkuAmericaeczlea: yw18:50
SonikkuAmerica!u | SonikkuAmerica18:50
ubottuSonikkuAmerica, please see my private message18:50
ahalversontush: have you made sure the card is fully connected?18:50
MrGizmo757ok. ill try it then.  since the video is ahead of the audio i should lower it you think? maybe to 15?18:50
BluesKajtush,in alsamixer make sure your headphone ctrl is turned up and not muted (MM) , use F5 to see all the ctrls18:51
ahalversonblueskaj: good idea18:51
tushahalverson, yes connected working fine with windows7 ; )18:51
zykotick9MrGizmo757: i'm not sure.  but north american video is usually at 29.?? FPS18:51
MrGizmo75729.97 or something like that.18:51
Merkidemistozen_: I am thinking it's trying to fetch via ipv6, which isn't getting through my ipv4 router, but I don't know how to disable/remove ipv6.18:52
pertudammit, after update my ati catalyst drivers went disabled mode :D18:52
Merkidemistozen_: Here is the error I get: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Cannot initiate the connection to security.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]18:52
MrGizmo757but ill give it a shot. and ill also try that -asynch thing too.  hopfully one of them will solve it.  if not i atleast know what to search for in the forums. thanks for the help18:53
zykotick9MrGizmo757: that -async is suppose to sync the audio and video frames somehow?18:53
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BluesKajMrGizmo757, that's some string for your conversion there , seems there's a lot going on ...is it all necessary?18:53
tushahalverson, BluesKaj already checked no option for Headphone volume18:53
tushahalverson, BluesKaj wanna check screen shot18:53
BluesKajtush, ok18:53
ahalversonyes please18:53
MrGizmo757yeah i read in a forum -asynch is suppose to help with this issue too. but there were no details on it.18:54
OerHekspertu, how did you install them, from their website? and cursing is not needed to get attention.18:54
tushahalverson, BluesKaj  check http://imgur.com/rbiQHIc18:55
MrGizmo757if my audio and video were consistant i could just clean it up in kdenlive or somthing.  but  that's not the case. it starts of fine and the audio and video get more and more out of sync of the recording progresses.18:55
ahalversontush: see you hope i was a help18:55
MrGizmo757so something has to be a missmatched.  bitrates or framerates like you said.18:55
tushahalverson, what18:56
BluesKajtush , you haven't got the "line" volume turned up18:56
tushBluesKaj, ahalversion, i tried nothing happen18:57
BluesKajok , bummer18:57
MrGizmo757according to youtube removeing -f sameq  and replacing it with -b 60000k  should help.  it did help a little but not enough.  the fact that it changed at all confirms its a bitrate/framerate issue. i guess i just have to play with the numbers until i find the sweet spot.18:59
MrGizmo757anyways  thanks for the help.18:59
tushBluesKaj, so any idea19:01
tushBluesKaj, why my IO panel not working in ubuntu 12.0419:01
ParadoxVoidHeya. Did anyone try my low-jitter config?19:03
duhamelhello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work19:04
duhamelany help?19:04
eczleaHow to change dns to in ubuntu 12.0419:04
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BluesKajtush, IO panel , is that a gui ?19:05
tushBluesKaj, no let me show you19:05
SuperGauntletQuestion, has anyone else had this issue:19:05
tushBluesKaj, http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://img.hexus.net/v2/audio/creative/x-fi/external.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hexus.net/ce/reviews/audio-visual/3580-creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-elite-pro/?page%3D2&h=934&w=1544&sz=140&tbnid=dyXwR81TFqtdmM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__icfnUeHWNZF8esMQJt93_DSsquQ=&docid=mwodmtiOIYp-lM&sa=X&ei=fKxpUb6SCcPQrQehgYHYDg&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAA&dur=26419:05
SuperGauntletRun ubuntu off USB disk with persistence (made with usb-creator-gtk), works fine on the computer it was created with, does not work on a computer with UEFI19:05
duhamelhello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work19:06
tozen_Merkidemis: which server u have installed?19:07
tushBluesKaj, got now what IO panel im talking about19:07
ParadoxVoidNo low-jitter enthusiasts?19:07
Merkidemistozen_: lucid, 64bit19:07
tushBluesKaj, that thing not working at all in ubuntu 12.0419:07
BluesKajok tush what kind of connection are you feeding the panel/device with from your pc19:08
tushBluesKaj, even volume control not working because of drivers issue or something like that im not so Pro in linux :(19:08
wilee-nileeSuperGauntlet, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?19:09
tushBluesKaj,  its Wire like Paralllel Cable what we use for older printer19:09
SuperGauntletwhere is that?19:09
wilee-nilee!uefi | SuperGauntlet Not sure if this will help with loaded usb.19:09
ubottuSuperGauntlet Not sure if this will help with loaded usb.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:09
BluesKajtush, no coaxial available ?19:09
wilee-nileeSuperGauntlet, Should though.19:10
SuperGauntletI think I looked at this19:10
tushBluesKaj, aahh optical Coax and analog all connected19:10
tozen_Merkidemis: i think so lucyd support is finished already19:10
tushBluesKaj, but IO panel not working thats the thing19:11
SuperGauntletI think the issue is that when loading the .efi boot image Ubuntu doesn't have a persistence option19:11
wilee-nileeSuperGauntlet, THe problem with UEFI is different manufacturers have their own modified versions, so it is hit and miss. However at the Ubuntu Forums are daily helpers concentrating on UEFI, you might check or start a thread there.19:11
SuperGauntletwilee-nilee: Okay19:11
SuperGauntletuefi has been a serious cf I really question why it was even implemented like it was19:12
wilee-nileeSuperGauntlet, I doubt a casper-rw file in the sick is the problem.19:12
duhamelhello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work it is listed as unclaimed19:12
duhameljust point me in the direction19:12
Merkidemistozen_: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS support doesn't end until 201519:13
wilee-nileeduhamel, Name the wireless set up you can find it with lspci in the terminal.19:13
wilee-nileeMerkidemis, desktop is eol april 9th the server is 201519:14
duhamelrtl8111/8168b pci express ethernet controller19:14
Merkidemiswilee-nilee: I am running server19:15
zykotick9wilee-nilee: MAY 9th actually.19:15
wilee-nileeMerkidemis, I figured that I missed the posts.19:15
wilee-nileezykotick9, Doh. ;)19:15
Merkidemiswilee-nilee: I am not looking forward to the dist-update, they never go well for me19:16
vassilisi wonder if i can hack in a system with ubuntu...19:16
vassilisit will be easy?19:16
tushBluesKaj, ?19:17
vassilisdoes anybody knows?19:17
duhamelnetwork controller ralink corp. device 329019:17
mustafaWhat channel to talk about c++? Because in #c++ no one is replying?19:17
duhamelwilee-nilee: is that what you needed to know19:18
wilee-nileeduhamel, This 12.04, I see options to try 12.10, on a live cd to see if that works.19:18
wilee-nileeduhamel, Not an area of expertise, I was just trying to get enough details to the channel for you.19:19
jebechI was running out of space on my /boot partition, decided to purge some old kernels;19:19
MerkidemisStupid server19:20
duhamelthank you.19:20
jebechForgot to update-initramfs, before reboot (but update-grub).19:20
jebechNow I get kernel panic. (unable-to-mount-root-fs)19:21
BluesKajtush, I'm looking at the system and it seems very complicated to setup, however alsamixer shows mostly all IOs , so why the signal isn't moving between the soundcard and the console is puzzling , but I'm not familiar with this kind of setup19:21
jebechI'm booted on a livecd, and have mounted /dev, /proc /sys and /run19:21
wilee-nileeduhamel, I did just find this though, be sure it is exactly the same card. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204065619:21
jebechchroot to /mnt (which is mount to my / partition)19:22
SuperGauntletwilee-nilee: tried cs cameron's post here and it didn't seem to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210848719:22
jebechcan run update-initramfs, but can't update-grub because /boot is on a its own partition.19:22
jebechDo I mount sda1 (boot partition) to /boot or ?19:22
JustinianCodeanyone had experience with some motherboard/cpu combination with integrated graphics that are (1) cheap (2) stable (3) play well with linux?19:23
tushBluesKaj, when i plug in my headphone in IO panel no response from sound card nothing19:23
BluesKajtush, my m-audio soundcard feeds the spdif digtal signal to an audio receiver. quite simple19:23
JustinianCodelooking to replace the motherbaord on a system that fried. Wish I could find something that didn't need a fan...19:24
Biomechdcan anyone help me set up my tv as a secondary monitor?19:24
mJaykJustinianCode: I've heard the intel i3's have good graphical performance inubuntu + they are cheap[19:24
tushBluesKaj, optical Coaxail and Analog all sound coming from speakers but not from Headphones19:24
BluesKajtush try plugging your headphones into the pc front panel19:24
tushBluesKaj, it will work19:25
BluesKajdo the speakers have a headphone output , tush?19:25
JustinianCodeyeah, I saw that. They are more than I was looking to spend, but I may decide to spend more.19:25
tushBluesKaj, yes19:25
paul137question: is samba only for ubuntu/windows networks?19:25
BluesKajtry that19:25
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sdrhrgjkngMy touchpad's left click stops working occasionally, and I have to reboot for it to start working again. How do I fix this?19:26
BluesKajtush, ^'19:26
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histopaul137: it's only for windows networks19:26
histo!info samba | paul13719:26
ubottupaul137: samba (source: samba): SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 2:3.6.6-3ubuntu5 (quantal), package size 4010 kB, installed size 22359 kB19:26
paul137it seems so -  because my two ubuntu machines don't talk to each other19:26
histopaul137: they will over samba if it's configured properly19:27
thisisnustslol i just booted usb live and my wifi works19:27
histopaul137: It's just a networking protocol there are others you can use.19:27
paul137hmm - I've been trying and been doing tons of googling19:27
BluesKajtush , the headphones will only work when plugged into an analog circuit , the source may need switching on the console .19:28
histopaul137: what are you trying to share or do?19:28
tushBluesKaj, Console not working at all19:28
paul137I'm trying to view a file on my desk top machine from my laptop19:28
histopaul137: you could use nfs or sshfs or samba if you want to use samba I will have ubottu send you the link19:29
dr_willispaul137:  easy way is to use ssh and the sshfs  tool to mounte the remote machine to a local directory19:29
histo!samba | paul137 The second link19:29
ubottupaul137 The second link: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.19:29
tushBluesKaj, Console not working even volume up and down19:30
BluesKajtush , i don't think the console needs drivers , is the serial port connected as well ?19:31
paul137so what your'e saying is connecting two  ubuntu machines must be done with nfs or ssh - is that right?19:31
tushBluesKaj, yes, it work in Windows Fine19:32
tushBluesKaj, only ubuntu :(19:32
jebechDoes anyone have an idea?19:32
SonikkuAmericajebech: On?19:32
BluesKajtush did the console need drivers in windows or just the soundcard ?19:33
Vivekanandaanyone can help me with libre0ffice messing up letter spacing in writer.19:33
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: #libreoffice19:33
tushBluesKaj,  i downloaded drivers for windows 7 64bit for sound card19:33
histopaul137: no you can use samba to connect them if you want.19:34
tushBluesKaj, console need some defab to respond in linux19:34
histopaul137: they are all just different networking protocols19:34
VivekanandaSonikkuAmerica: I am already there. no responses :(. Everyone is sleeping in there19:34
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SonikkuAmericaOh. Well then wake 'em up! :)19:35
wilee-nileeVivekananda, http://askubuntu.com/questions/96298/how-to-activate-kerning-in-libreoffice19:36
paul137I've set the smb.conf file on both machines running samba no luck19:36
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paul137each machine only shows itself as part of the windows network19:37
paul137without both being visable, they can't talk to each other - i think19:37
jebechUbuntu wanted to upgrade kernel, but couldn't because I was running out of space on my /boot partition, decided to purge some old kernels;19:37
jebechForgot to update-initramfs, before reboot (but update-grub).;19:37
jebechNow I get kernel panic. (unable-to-mount-root-fs);19:37
jebechFollowing http://askubuntu.com/questions/116635/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block-oo-swapper19:37
jebechI'm booted on a livecd, and have mounted /mnt to /dev/sda3 (my / partition)19:37
jebechBut after I chroot, I don't have boot, because it is located on another partition (/dev/sda1)19:37
FloodBot1jebech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:37
dr_willispaul137:  you did set up some shares on each box. and gave the users a samba password? "sudo smbpasswd username" ?19:38
LoneTrooperDoes anyone know about next release of Ubuntu? There s final beta 13.04 available but i want to wait for final version.19:38
BluesKajtush, defab ?19:38
dr_willisLoneTrooper:  then go get it... see #ubuntu+1 for support for it19:38
tushBluesKaj,  nothing : p19:38
paul137i have not given the user name - let me try that19:38
LoneTrooperi dont want beta but thx for response19:39
tushBluesKaj, i think it wont work in linux19:39
mJaykLoneTrooper: Afaik It is 25th of this month19:39
SonikkuAmericaLoneTrooper: 2013.04.25 or 15th Iyyar 577319:39
dr_willispaul137:  for simple transfers - linux to linux, sshfs and ssh are easier to get going then samba. Unless you need 'windows shares' for other pcs on the lan19:39
tushBluesKaj, :(19:39
dr_willisLoneTrooper:  then what do you want? its in testing... wait for final release.. or not.19:39
LoneTrooperoh good to know new date thx mJayk, america19:39
SuperGauntletHey, on the topic of samba19:39
SuperGauntletWhy not just use webmin?19:40
tushBluesKaj, you still searching for some clue19:40
histopaul137: if you want to disable samba asking for user/pass change the samba config to security = share instead of security = user19:40
SuperGauntletI know it's a bit of a cop-out but it makes it all a lot simpler19:40
dr_willisSuperGauntlet:  webmin is not reccomended under ubuntu.19:40
SuperGauntletdr_willis: Any reason why?19:40
dr_willisand really theres n othing webmin does for samba that shouldent allredy been done by default19:40
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.19:40
paul137let me try that first19:40
SuperGauntletOh okay. Didn't realize.19:40
tushBluesKaj, i hav to go now will try next time anyways thanks for your helping me :)19:41
BluesKajok tush , still think all you needis the sound card , the console is for recording etc19:42
ronillonhi, please is there some good gui for grub configuration you could recommend?19:43
SonikkuAmericajebech: You should have run update-initramfs so it could run a new initrd image.19:44
dr_willisronillon:  cant say ive really noticed any GRUB gui tools in the default repos.. you may want to check askubuntu.com to see if any are reccomended.. ive never needed a gui19:45
jebechSonikkuAmerica: Yes, I realise my brain blunder, however I am at a loss as of how to fix it. Do I mount /dev/sda1 to /boot?19:45
SonikkuAmericajebech: Well, becuase /boot is in /dev/sda1 you'll need to mount that.19:46
ronillondr_willis: i do not need it for myself actually, friend of mine is starting with linux these days and asked me for something that he could use, cause he does not have whole lot of time to mess with the configs19:47
SonikkuAmericajebech: But not AS /boot; that's not allowed19:47
ronillondr_willis: but yeah, i will look there19:47
LoneTrooperdoes anyone have experience with driver for graphics tablet called wizardpen or DIGImend?19:47
bingohow do i delete Skye data after i have removed it?19:47
tozen_bingo: sudo apr-get purde --remove skype19:48
dr_willisronillon:  actually - i rarely need to mess with the grub configs at all... ;)19:48
dr_willisbingo:  what skye data?19:48
tozen_bingo: sudo apr-get purge --remove skype19:48
nightdemon666any one who can help is appreciated... I am running ubuntu lts 12.04. i had been running "indicator-weather" (weather indicator app that displays on your panel [thats what i prefer]), and had been running it for a while. I love it. looks good on the panel! but after a while of running it would just stop. then i could re-run the app again, and all would be good until it would just close on its own and disappear from the19:48
bingoSkype remembers my username even after i remove using software center19:48
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mikerussel_bingo: find / skype19:50
ronillondr_willis: true same with me, but he is multibooting with few another OSes and wants to change the order and time for decision which OS to start. so i figured it would be better to give him a tool, rather than doing it for him or something like that19:50
dr_willisbingo:  the pacvkage manager system does NOT touch your config files in your HOME directory...19:50
dr_willisbingo:  so look for the skype config files and remove them19:50
aguiteli have  Acer Aspireone 725 , this is the video card : VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 980a19:50
aguitel,how install catalyst driver?19:50
dr_willisronillon:  multi os's then he really should be learning grub. ;)19:50
LoneTrooperaguitel try this wiki.cchtml.com/19:51
paul137I made security change on both machines - i'm waiting a few minutes for it to take effect19:51
bingodr_willis: just manually delete?19:51
mikerussel_aguitel: go to ati.com>download>install it19:51
dr_willisbingo:  err.. since the package manager wont TOUCH files in your home..  yes..19:52
Lainey4214Hello, I'm using ubuntu 12.10. When I go to take a screenshot, it gives me a black picture. I tried pressing prtscn, alt+prtscn, and going to screenshot, and I get the same results.19:52
LoneTrooperbut then u need to build deb package from driver that has run extension19:52
jebechSonikkuAmerica: Would you mind commenting on http://pastebin.com/2MJ6nLbV19:52
aguiteli didnt find in ati site19:52
LoneTrooperjust see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu19:52
ronillondr_willis: maybe you are right, but from what he said, he is just testing different distribution right now, till he finds one, that fits him most. so it's probably one time (or so) thing19:53
cloudgeekhow to remove a directory with full of data19:53
vltcloudgeek: -r19:53
nightdemon666rm -r19:53
cloudgeekvlt: -r not owkring19:53
vltcloudgeek: You might need -f19:53
bingook thanks19:54
SonikkuAmericajebech: It should at least say it was generating an initrd.img19:54
histocloudgeek: rm -rf /path/to/directory19:54
paul137how long do i have to wait for  security change to take effect?19:54
LoneTrooper<cloudgeek> u can use pcmanfm file manager that allows u to manipulate files using graphical user interface with administrative rights19:54
starrywinternighim running xubuntu 12.10 and i wondering how to change my docky icon at the bottom of the csreen19:54
tozen_cloudgeek: rm -rf19:54
histopaul137: after you change the config sudo service samba restart19:54
cloudgeekhisto: i tired rm -rf ~/.vim but not working19:54
Lainey4214When I take screenshots, they come out black19:54
tozen_cloudgeek: with sudo19:54
paul137I did - i'll take a look now19:54
histocloudgeek: can you describe "not working"19:54
nightdemon666what would cause the OS to deny deleteing a directory??? i have NEVER had to use the f option :/19:54
ubuntu-studioim running ubuntu studio19:55
cloudgeekhisto: it done ! now yeah19:55
ronillondr_willis: actually, now that im thinking about it. it might be benefitial for him to compare grub.cfg before and after changes19:55
ubuntu-studiofrom flash drive19:55
starrywinternighhow to change docky icons at the bottom of xubuntu 12.10?19:55
SonikkuAmerica!studio | ubuntu-studio19:55
ubottuubuntu-studio: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org19:55
histostarrywinternigh: ask in #xubuntu19:55
ubuntu-studiohow do i mount drives when im running a live usb ubuntu19:55
mikerussel_aguitel: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx19:55
MerkidemisWould someone be able to help me convince apt to use ipv4 rather then ipv6?19:55
histonightdemon666: f is used to not prompt and ignore nonexistent files19:56
ubuntu-studioi cant access files stored on my computer19:56
Lainey4214My screenshot isn't working.19:56
LoneTroopernightdemon666 all files in location called file system needs administrative right in oder to make changes into them19:56
iUnifywzcvczx: Reinstalled... good stuff.  Thanks for the help.  I am having trouble figuring out what to use as alternatives to my Antivirus/Malware/Adware/Firewall as well as a Dreamweaver alternative, not sure Komposer will cut it.  Also, can't seem to get clamav to install for me, if that were one of the suggestions.  Also I am looking for a webcam Application, YouCam is what I used with windows.  Finally I found you can record somehow19:56
iUnifywith VLC but I don't know the audio device directory and can't figure it out.  My mouse is still clicking randomly as well.  Sorry for such an influx of questions, man.  I sincerely appreciate the help.19:56
LoneTrooperthe only place where u can do things freely is home directory19:56
nightdemon666it looked like the directory tryingot be delete was in a home folder though LoneTrooper19:56
paul137wow i see my other machine!19:56
LoneTroopernightdemon666 check if the file has read olny attribute19:57
ubuntu-studiocan any one see my chating19:57
LoneTrooperif yes then disable it19:57
nightdemon666ubuntu-studio you need to first type sudo fdisk -l /// this will show you the list of mountable drives19:57
aguitelmikerussel_, why this from ati site and not from ubuntu (jockey-gtk)19:57
Lainey4214My screenshots keep coming out as black.19:58
ubuntu-studioscrew you lone troooper19:58
ubuntu-studiogo eat a dick19:58
nightdemon666then, you need to type sudo mount /dev/sdX what ever the drive is... for example sudo mount /dev/sda /media/"momunt point"19:58
paul137to histo i'm going over to my lap top now to make the same changes on its config19:58
ubuntu-studioyou told them to disable19:58
Lainey4214He wasn't talking about you.19:58
nightdemon666i suppose i should have stated to make sure you creat i directoy ubuntu studio19:58
jebechSonikkuAmerica: Just retried, sadly it doesn't. But couldn't that be related to /boot being on another partition19:58
ubuntu-studiooh my bad19:58
ubuntu-studioi feel stupid19:59
ubuntu-studioim sorry19:59
nightdemon666sudo mkdir /mnt/directory name or /media/directory name...19:59
Lainey4214It's okay.19:59
DJonesubuntu-studio: Don't swear in the channel, please keep it family friendly19:59
ubuntu-studioi was about to use backtrack on you lol19:59
LoneTroopernevermind except everything on the INTERNET19:59
mikerussel_aguitel try thishttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu19:59
ubuntu-studiohow do i view my drives on live usb ubuntu20:00
Lainey4214Can someone help me make screenshot work?20:00
ubuntu-studioi cant see it20:00
nightdemon666ubuntu-studio type sudo fdisk -l20:00
nightdemon666then type sudo mkdir /media/(whatever-you-want-here)20:01
BluesKajLoneTrooper, perhaps use the nick your directing your answers to from now on , saves confusion20:01
nightdemon666then, for example if the drive you want to "see" is in /dev/sda1 then you need ot type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/(the-name-of-the-directory-you-created)20:01
ubuntu-studiothen what do i do20:01
ubuntu-studionight demon20:01
ubuntu-studioim using a live usb version20:02
nightdemon666its fairly standard linux/unix commands ubuntu-studio, it wouldnt matter if you were on gentoo or fedora or what ever20:02
delocazHello! I'm installing Ubuntu through the mini ISO (text-based installer). It errors at "Choose and install packages". It came close to finished, then errored. If I try to start again, it errors. It doesn't give any error description, just that there is an error.20:02
delocazCan anyone help?20:02
wilee-nileedelocaz, You are plugged in with ethernet?20:03
ubuntu-studiook so i have to partition drives to view files already on windows20:03
delocazwilee-nilee: yes20:03
wilee-nileedelocaz, Did you just chose the xubuntu-desktop, and is this a msdos disc I assume?20:04
delocazI chose xubuntu-desktop, yes. And this is the one you linked an hour ago20:04
wilee-nileedelocaz, Right, this is not a gpt disc?20:04
nightdemon666steps are, first see what linux kernel sees physically connected ot mobo (sudo fdisk -l) then creat the mount point (sudo mkdir /media/sda1 <-for example) then (sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1) now you will see the contents of drive either graphically or via command line :)20:04
delocazwilee-nilee: I don't know what a gpt disc is, but it's this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD20:05
nightdemon666no ubuntu-studio, you do NOT have to partition drives in order to view the contents of data on the drives, windows or not20:05
wilee-nileedelocaz, I mean the HD, it did not come with W8, or is a apple computer?20:05
ubuntu-studioneed some help20:05
delocazwilee-nilee: I don't see how that is relevant, but it's an old Windows XP computer20:06
nightdemon666... ubutn-studio, i am helping you20:06
gui_usertrying to remotely troubleshoot.  reportedly 12.10 only shows one line of gnome-terminal (launched from <alt><f2>) unless you fullscreen.  Similar issues with firefox, et all.  ...20:06
nightdemon666delocaz, gpt disk partition does matter to win xp i believe20:06
jebechSonikkuAmerica: If I run update-initramfs -u -k 3.5.0-27-generic instead of -k all I get a whole slew of errors (could not read /lib/modules/... and all sorts), all culminating in failed for /boot/initrd.img- with 120:06
delocaznightdemon666: Well, I formatted it as ext4 before the error20:07
histoubuntu-studio: No you just mount them20:07
ubuntu-studioi need noodles20:07
histoubuntu-studio: if they are already being used by windows they are already partitioned and formated20:07
SonikkuAmericajebech: Is that the kernel version you're updating?20:07
LoneTrooperDoes anybody know if wizardpen or DIGImend may work better on openSUSE?20:07
MonkeyDustLoneTrooper  better ask in the opensuse channel20:08
wilee-nileedelocaz, I don't know that, and see know post about that, I realize you are frustrated, don't take it out on me. ;)20:08
paul137to histo - I'm seeing both machines on both machine's network but I can't see the file in the folder20:08
nightdemon666well delocaz, you need ot have a partition to install on... im not sure exactly ewhat the error is, i even read your above discription.20:08
histopaul137: did you create a share?20:08
gui_userappearently the window can be made even smaller, but not larger (eg increased to a usable size)20:09
paul137i created a share using nautilus20:09
histopaul137: right click on the directory and got to sharing option in the file browser20:09
iUnifywhat do you guys recomend I use for AV/AM/Adware/Firewall?20:09
delocaznightdemon666: The text-based installer fomats a drive before it installs anything, like the normal installer. It just errored at around 90% of the package installation20:09
nightdemon666anyway, anyone ever had issues with indicator-weather app closing by its self, and find a resolution??? i havent found one yet :(20:09
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus20:09
jebechdouble check on boot partition; has abi-3.5.0-27-generic config-3.5.0-27-generic and vmlinux-3.5.0-27-generic20:09
nightdemon666delocaz, and the partition is large enough correct?20:10
paul137i'm assuming i have to be in nautilus - let me give it a try20:10
delocaznightdemon666: 80gb, yes20:10
nightdemon666have you ever instaleld anything else to that partition?20:10
nightdemon666like any other linux distros20:10
delocazYes, after XP, I successfully installed Debian. Then I tried to install Xubuntu through the mini ISO (normal one didn't work and didn't boot to installer at all)20:10
nightdemon666and you say you cant see any of the displayed errors, it doesnt tell you what the error is???20:11
delocaznightdemon666: It simply says "An error occured in step Choose and Install Packages"20:11
delocazOr something like that20:11
delocazThe installer is the same as Debians, and the one Ubuntu had before Ubiquity20:11
nightdemon666delocaz, did you try and install just nothing but base packages, like, not selecting anything special?20:12
delocaznightdemon666: No, but it won't let me choose again. Simply says there is an error20:12
cablop|2what graphical interface do you recommend for an Ubuntu server? we need to access it remotely20:12
nightdemon666is the drive healthy?20:12
jribcablop|2: whatever you want.  Depends on your needs.  Personally I would recommend not using one20:12
nightdemon666cablop, just as a point to make, wouldnt that defete the purpose of a server??? GUI?20:13
delocaznightdemon666: Should be, yes. Doesn't give any SMART errors20:13
delocazRemember, it's this installer: http://img.bhs4.com/51/d/51d8459626a33cf128f6ed4b9a89d004b4aee69e_large.jpg20:13
paul137to histo - the folder showing as being shared on my laptop20:13
cablop|2jrib, well, the thing is simple, we are going to need a windows server and we are planningnon virtualizing it on Ubuntu... the downside is that we need a GUI to install it... otherwise we need to install the Windows server as host and run the ubuntu one as a service (something that's odd by itself)20:14
nightdemon666but, cablop, i would recomment LXDM20:14
nightdemon666LXDM is nice and lightweight :)20:14
iUnifyThanks for the response.  I have read that documentation.  I can't get clam to install properly... also, from what I understand, having these protections, esp. firewall is highly recomended, and, I'd like to use the percausion.20:14
TPiazzastruggling with what should be a simple bash script, want to run the following script after a fresh install of ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705851/20:14
cablop|2nightdemon666: not realy, a GUI is ok for a server as long as we start it just on demand20:15
nightdemon666delocaz, did you try redownloading the iso? maybe corrupt?20:15
delocaznightdemon666: It's not :)20:16
francesco_hi all... i have a problem with unity: when I maximize a window the buttons are hidden and moved at the left corner.. how can I make the buttons always on top? :) Thx.. :)20:16
TPiazzathe problem is that a few of the commands require input from the user, so when i run the script it behaves differently20:17
SonikkuAmericafrancesco_: System Settings > Appearance, Behavior tab, make sure the switch at the far right is ON.20:17
delocazJust gonna try reinstalling, but not choosing any xubuntu packages so I'm left with a shell. (Then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)20:18
xorredis it possible that enabling DenyHosts and Fail2Ban at the same time would somehow blacklist my own IP?20:18
xorredI am able to login a few times, then bam - my host is denied, even if it/s in /etc/allow_hosts20:18
TPiazzaso clearly i am missing something, any ideas?20:19
paul137to dalocaz  i can see my folder on other computer for the first time but not its contents20:20
nightdemon666ok, again... anyone can help me with indicator-weather app in ubuntu 12.04?20:21
nightdemon666paul137, it sounds like a file permissions thing... just a thought20:21
jebechSonikkuAmerica: Don't know if you saw; But double checked on boot partition; it has abi-3.5.0-27-generic config-3.5.0-27-generic and vmlinux-3.5.0-27-generic20:21
SonikkuAmericajebech: Nope, missed it. Got it now. And s/vmlinux/vmlinuz20:22
wilee-nileenightdemon666, Mine was always funky and stopped working a couple of weeks ago.20:22
jebechSonikkuAmerica: You are ofcourse, correct20:22
nightdemon666mine will work for a while and just stop unexpectly... no errors i can see from it willie-nilly... do you use a weather indicator app that appears on panel that is stable?20:23
SonikkuAmericajebech: Did you cd into the partition where /boot was?20:24
TPiazzaany shell scripting gurus out there?20:24
wilee-nileenightdemon666, Not really just look at the temp gauge, or my phone now.20:24
wilee-nileeI gave up on a working weather app, I have run several.20:24
gcbirzan_are you still supposed to use update-manager to update between releases?20:24
jebechSonikkuAmerica: It ends with update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-27-generic with 1; Ofcourse, /boot doesn't exist20:25
WalexTPiazza: there are probably several hundred shell scripting gurus in the world20:25
SonikkuAmericajebech: Ouch... you might want to ask someone else then.20:25
Walexjebech: if '/boot' does not exist that's quite bad20:25
TPiazzaWalex: just wondering if any of them are online at the moment.....20:25
WalexTPiazza: probably somewhere.20:25
SonikkuAmericajebech: I dunno much about the linux kernel and initrd20:25
cablop|2ok, adding more spice to the question... gui for a server, just used on demand, what about using XFCE instead of LXDE for remote access?20:26
gcbirzan_why do you need a GUI?20:26
gcbirzan_I mean, just start whatever X app youneed over ssh or something20:26
cablop|2gcbirzan_: we need to virtualize another server inside, a Windows Server, installation is graphical20:27
jebechSonikkuAmerica, Walex: It exists (/boot), just not on the chroot; it isn't mounted, and I don't know howto do that (chroot to /mnt which is mounted to /dev/sda3 (which is /), but /boot is /dev/sda1)20:27
gcbirzan_my statement still stands20:27
gcbirzan_plus, most of these things offer VNC or such20:27
gcbirzan_I know qemu does, and I'm sure vmware has something20:27
Walexcablop|2: use a simple window manager like FVWM2 or OpenBox20:28
CarlinhosCan I install 13.04 beta while preserving /home even though it isn't on a separate partition (default Ubuntu partitions)?20:28
paul137to 666 i've set read permissions on the file im trying to see still no luck20:28
jebechWalex: I'm on a livecd, following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116635/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block-oo-swapper20:28
gcbirzan_Carlinhos: well, not easily20:28
gcbirzan_not sure it works in ubuntu, the installer is really annoying about partitions...20:29
gcbirzan_but you could try remoing everything except /home and just telling ubuntu to install there20:29
Carlinhosgcbirzan_: I read somewhere that re-installing ubuntu woudln't wipe out /home...20:29
gcbirzan_Carlinhos: also, I'm upgrading with dist-upgrade, because update manager has to be the most useless piece of crap ever20:29
gcbirzan_quite likely, it will end in hilary, but hey20:30
Carlinhoswell i guess I will just do a backup and this time make sure /home is in a separate partition so it won't be a problem in future upgrades20:30
Walexjebech: then in the 'chroot' you can setup '/dev/', '/sys' and '/proc' and mount '/boot' too20:31
jebechWalex: I don't know howto mount /boot20:31
Walexjebech: something like: cd /dev; MAKEDEV std; MAKEDEV sda; mount /sys; mount /proc; mount /dev/sda1 /boot20:31
Walexjebech: all that after 'chroot'.20:31
paul137to 666 it seems that it maybe a passwording issue20:31
Walexjebech: reverse the 'mount' before existing the 'chroot'.20:32
gcbirzan_what is that makedev crap?20:32
gcbirzan_this is not 199020:32
paul137im going to have delete the folders and then re-establish them20:32
WalexCarlinhos: do you want o *install* 13.04 or *upgrade* to 13.04?20:32
gcbirzan_mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev20:32
paul137so here i go - ill report back on my progress20:33
CarlinhosWalex: I want to install, like a clean install while just leaving my /home untouched20:33
Walexgcbirzan_: you are assuming that the liveCD and the mounted "root" partition are form the same lineage and use compatbile device names...20:33
gcbirzan_Walex: what does it matter?20:33
gcbirzan_Walex: I mean20:33
killeris there any good decompilers for ubuntu20:34
gcbirzan_if it they're not, it won't work no matter how much you pray20:34
francesco_  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`20:34
cablop|2gcbirzan_, Walex, thanks for the ideas... i think i am going to install a very very simple window manager, to help people get used to the server here... then use the aps via ssh20:34
ronalds_mazhow to change lightdm configuration, for it to be gtk, not kde one20:34
gcbirzan_if your current kernel sees it as /dev/bunnies1, creating /dev/sda1 won't help you one bit20:34
iUnifyuT users, do you prefer qbit or dulge?20:34
ronalds_mazI want default login manager20:34
ronalds_mazfor ubuntu20:35
ronalds_mazas default20:35
WalexCarlinhos: well, that's a bit more difficult thasn an upgrade. However you can do it if you are careful with the installer. You will have to do manual partitioning in a shell20:35
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager20:35
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: might be --config20:35
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longbyte1I never understood why installing any linux distros always turned out complicated.20:36
CarlinhosWalex: I'm afraid of messing things up so I'll just do a clean install and make sure /home is in a separate partition this time20:36
zheoffecronalds_maz: cant you just uninstall kdm?20:36
gcbirzan_longbyte1: what, in particular, is complicated?20:36
ronalds_mazuninstalling kdm wouldn't break something?20:36
longbyte1Seriously, the installation process is supposed to be SIMPLE, and then when everything goes right, something fails and I have to spend the rest of my day figuring it out20:36
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: just try what I suggested20:36
longbyte1and then realizing that apt-get isn't in the shell20:37
gcbirzan_what does that even mean20:37
ronalds_mazronalds_maz: update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager20:37
ronalds_mazthis doesn't work20:37
zheoffeclongbyte1: do you have a problem or do you just want to complain?20:37
gcbirzan_I corrected myself20:37
longbyte1I kind of have a question.20:37
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: nevermind, I'm an idiot20:38
zheoffecwhat is it?20:38
longbyte1What are the minimum requirements for installing lubuntu?20:38
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ronalds_mazit did work, but for changing season20:38
ronalds_mazso I should remove kdm?20:38
Carlinhosdo i need any more partitions other than / and /home? I have 4GB ram so I guess I don't need a swap partition?20:38
longbyte1Carlinhos: no, you can just delete the swap partition.20:38
Carlinhoslongbyte1: it's for a new install so it isn't created yet20:39
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Carlinhosbut thanks20:39
wilee-nileeCarlinhos, You want a swap if you hibernate.20:40
longbyte1Yeah, you can just delete the partition and put the free space into the other 2 partitions.20:40
zheoffeclongbyte1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - see the header labeled "System requirements"20:40
Carlinhosin case I do want to hibernate, how large should my swap partition be with 4GB ram?20:40
longbyte1But as wilee-nilee just said, if you want to hibernate, you need 4 GB (I think) for swap.20:40
wilee-nileeCarlinhos, Yeah swap would be equal to ram.20:41
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: Turns out it's in /etc/X11/default-display-manager20:41
longbyte1zheoffec: doesn't say how much hard drive space I need.20:41
ronalds_mazconfig  /etc/X11/default-display-manager20:41
zheoffecCarlinhos: I think ubuntu have removed the option to hibernate, leaving only the suspend option - wich i think only suspends to disk, not RAM20:41
gcbirzan_Just edit it20:41
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: It contains the path to the default DM20:42
gcbirzan_hibernate is suspend to disk20:42
ronalds_mazso what is default for lightdm20:42
gcbirzan_that's why you need DISK for it20:42
zheoffecI generally have my swap as the same as my memory just to be safe20:43
longbyte1swap depends on what you will be doing20:44
wilee-nileeyou can add the hibernate, and you can suspend without a swap, both are different.20:44
ronalds_mazwhat is alternative for ubuntus default one20:44
longbyte1If you're going to be playing games, adding swap will decrease performance but meet the requirements.20:44
gcbirzan_ronalds_maz: also, I think doing dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm should prompt you to select one20:44
gcbirzan_what the hell20:45
gcbirzan_longbyte1: decrease performance?20:45
zykotick9Carlinhos: for hibernate to work, swap need to be slightly larger then physical RAM, it needs to copy everything in RAM, and have room for the overhead of doing so.20:45
wilee-nileelongbyte1, Only if it swaps, you can set the swappiness different than 60 which is stock.20:45
zheoffecronalds_maz: the three polular ones are GDM (GNOME), lightDM (used in Ubuntu), and KDM (KDE)20:45
longbyte1Yes, because hard drive activity will make read/write much slower.20:46
longbyte1Just go with wilee-nilee because right now I'm playing M$ flight simulator.20:46
longbyte1Which is a pretty good game.20:46
Carlinhoszykotick9: I'm thinking about a swap file instead which I can create after the install20:46
ronalds_mazI did dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm and it still uses kdm20:47
zykotick9longbyte1: swap makes a system faster, if you're actually using swap for memory - then all bets are off.  see "/msg ubottu swap" for confirmation.20:47
gcbirzan_as opposed to the performance increase of processes dying from no memory?20:47
zykotick9Carlinhos: i think you need a swap "partition" (by default) for hibernation.20:47
zheoffecdoes ubuntu use systemd?20:47
longbyte1Well, I think this is enough advice because I think of swap like page file for linux.20:48
ronalds_mazhow do I return to classic ubuntu login manager, second tyme questioning20:48
Carlinhoszykotick9: Didn't know that. Anyway, I never use the total 4GB of my ram capacity, so an equally large swap partition should do I guess.20:48
FFForeverIs it possible to su into another user and cd into a different directory at the same time?20:49
zykotick9Carlinhos: i don't think hibernate cares about what's in use, if partition doesn't equal ram+a_little i'd expect it to fail (or really, not start with some error).  good luck.20:49
jebechSonikkuAmerica, Walex, gcbirzan_: Thank you all for your patience and help. In the end, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair this fixed the problem, with 3-4 (albeit borring!) mouse clicks. Might be of help to the next chap.?20:50
zykotick9FFForever: fyi if you add a - to your su, it should go to that user's home directory20:50
zheoffecronalds_maz: have you seen this question - http://askubuntu.com/questions/58023/how-can-i-make-lightdm-the-default-display-manager ?20:50
FFForeverzykotick9, Yes, I am opening a login shell, but I also want to switch into a directory within the user home.20:51
Carlinhoszykotick9: In that case, should an additional 500MB be enough? I'm still wondering if I will actually use hibernation, someone said Ubuntu doesn't support it anymore.20:51
zykotick9FFForever: sorry, no further suggestions to your "issue" ;)20:51
zykotick9Carlinhos: hibernate is disabled by default in ubuntu, due to high failure rate.20:52
jebechNow, is it possible to make linux/grub "hot" reboot; So I avoid waiting for BIOS and RAID controller?20:52
FFForeverzykotick9, I'm just trying to avoid typing out cd .../.../ 5 times a day. Yes, I could su into the user and alias it, but that still seems like something that could be automated from the initial su.20:52
zheoffecCarlinhos: the hibernation entry was removed from the me-menu, but that's not to say that ubuntu doesn't support it - you can use hibernation via `pm-hibernate` i think20:52
Carlinhoszykotick9: I have actually never used it so I'm thinking the additional space would be more useful.20:53
zykotick9FFForever: su can run command for sure, but cd'ing then leaving the terminal open?  that's a lot more complicated.  best of luck.20:53
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zykotick9Carlinhos: what's cool about hibernate, is that it's an uptime "cheat".  my netbook had a ridiculous uptime, because i always used pm-hibernate, instead of shutting down.  other then that... eh, hibernate is perhaps yesterdays technology - today ;)20:54
ronalds_mazI made lightdm default but it still shows kdm as login manager20:55
FFForeverzykotick9, Hmm.. What about loading a second bash session within the initial su? Besides a waste of resources it should work in theory.20:55
zheoffecronalds_maz: did you see the link i gave you?20:55
ronalds_mazI saw20:55
ronalds_mazsudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm this doesn't work20:56
ronalds_mazneither do next comment in that link20:56
meLonEver since 12.X, I haven't been able to get pulseaudio and alsa working together.  I'd really like to take advantage of the ability to have multiple programs outputing sound simutaneously, as well as using pulse in libao.conf.  Any suggestions?20:56
Carlinhoszykotick9: My boot takes less than 10 secs I think, shouldn't be problem. If I'm not mistaken, Windows8 actually uses the hibernate "cheat" by default.20:56
ronalds_mazdefault display manager shows /usr/sbin/lightdm20:57
ronalds_mazbut I got kdm on login20:57
Gnearonalds_maz: so remove kdm20:58
FFForeverOn an unrelated note, is it possible to automatically login a user on a headless server without using nodm/starting x?20:58
zykotick9Carlinhos: don't mention MS to me ;)  i'm serious about that.  but ya win8 removes copied files because of the way they hibernate (ridiculous stuff, fsf just put out an info graphic of win8 vs gnu/linux at https://www.fsf.org/windows8 )20:58
Carlinhosis a /boot partition needed or is it within the / partition?20:59
zheoffecronalds_maz: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/48903/how-do-i-prevent-kdm-from-starting-at-boot20:59
zheoffecCarlinhos: it is contained in /20:59
zykotick9Carlinhos: unless you're doing something "special" don't use a separate /boot (it's not needed anymore, and leads to problems)20:59
dodo3773Just a quick test. Can anyone read this21:00
dodo3773Carlinhos: Thank you21:00
netherlands6I have software error on dell inspiron 15R SE The system I have installed is: Ubuntu 13.04 beta2 (why 13.04 beta2? because I no longer have issues with graphic card or booting) I have no sound and I have some messages popup on screen, is there a way to analised the OS and fix those error? in command line, a specific software? Please tell me how.Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Aud21:00
netherlands6io Controller (rev 04)21:00
ronalds_mazno still nothing changed, must remove kdm then21:00
zheoffecdoes ubuntu use pulseaudio or alsa?21:01
ronalds_mazbut if I will be trown in xserver broken graphics low res or something like that session, I will hate on this for long time, as dealing with multiple DE should be more easy21:01
ronalds_mazin 201321:02
ronalds_mazpulse audio probably21:02
ronalds_mazpavucontrol is main app behind audio in ubuntu21:03
wilee-nilee!13.04 > netherlands621:04
ubottunetherlands6, please see my private message21:04
poisoned_dragonNo, Alsa is the main app behind audio in ubuntu21:04
Vivekanandalibre office messing up the fonts. Do I have to go to windows for this ?21:04
poisoned_dragonPulseaudio is just an audio server.21:04
Vivekanandais there no good alternative for getting correct and good looking letter spacing in ubuntu21:04
wilee-nileeVivekananda, Did you see the link on kerning, if this is still an issue. Did you install the restricted extras for you dektop, ms fonts are part of that?21:05
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zheoffecpoisoned_dragon: alsa is also an audio server21:05
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: Sometimes that happens if you updated components LibreOffice depends on; the kerning goes all outta whck21:05
zheoffecused in arch ;_21:05
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: I tried all settings of pair kerning with what I have. I have not installed restricted extras. Was that also there in that same link ?21:06
poisoned_dragonI said that zheoffec.21:06
poisoned_dragonIt's only an audio server.21:06
poisoned_dragonYou can't have pulse without alsa.21:06
netherlands6wilee-nilee I have no more graphic or boot issue since I got 13.04  just sound and minor bug no one answering on ubuntu+121:07
wilee-nileeVivekananda, No it is just part of the video codecs and ms fonts kit.21:07
poisoned_dragonWell, you could. It just won't do anything.21:07
Gneazheoffec: incorrect, alsa is a set of sound drivers - a driver and a server are two entirely different things.21:07
wilee-nileenetherlands6, 13.04 is #ubuntu+121:07
SonikkuAmericaFor now21:07
poisoned_dragonOk, Gnea. Try and use Pulse without alsa drivers. :)21:07
Vivekanandahmm so howdo I check for it ?21:08
netherlands6ok thank again I will wait for an answer maybe tommorow21:08
poisoned_dragonOh wait... I read that wrong. Sorry, Gnea21:08
poisoned_dragonI'm a little spacey.21:08
wilee-nileeVivekananda, What is your desktop?21:08
Gneas'okay :-)21:08
brian_SonikkuAmerica: Remember me? I'm back. Now running 12.10 (64 bit). Had to DL all the apps from scratch, but it has been worth it. Just wanted to let you know that all is well.21:08
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: ubuntu precise21:08
zheoffecGnea: so what exactly is a sound server then?21:09
GneaI'm not sure if pulseaudio will work with OSS drivers or not, I think it was designed for the alsa api21:09
Vivekanandasorry lubuntu 12.0421:09
SonikkuAmericaVivekananda: #lubuntu has a channel21:09
wilee-nileeVivekananda, In the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras21:09
Gneazheoffec: well a driver simply lets a piece of hardware talk to the software (where software = operating system, not a piece of software like firefox)21:09
SonikkuAmericabrian_: Awesome! Hope you enjoy Quantal, Raring comes out in 2 weeks21:09
poisoned_dragonThe sound server allows multiple apps to access the sound hardware at the same time.21:10
brian_SonikkuAmerica: I'll look out for it.21:10
Gneazheoffec: a server, in the this meaning of context, is another word for a daemon, which is a piece of software that runs in the background continuously to act as a mediatory to pass information/data from one or more sources onto another21:10
s1pherwhen i use sudo apt-get update it gives this message:21:11
s1pherW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found21:11
s1pherW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found21:11
s1pherW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found21:11
s1phercan someone help?21:11
MonkeyDusts1pher  remove the ppa's and be happy21:11
Gneas1pher: it's not there anymore21:11
zheoffecso alsa can output sound without a server like pulseaudio, but it can only output from one app at a time without a server? (Gnea, poisoned_dragon)21:11
s1pherdo i just do sudo apt-get remove  http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages21:12
ronalds_mazremoving kdm did the trick, if not mentioned I had panic, when unity crashed afterwards21:12
ronalds_mazhow to remove kde theming in ubuntu apps, maybe someone remmbers21:12
SonikkuAmericaronalds_maz: You'll want lightdm anyway21:12
Gneazheoffec: that depends on the soundcard hardware - if the hardware is a half-duplex card, yes.  if it's full-duplex, then the soundcard can handle multiple sources from within the software at the same time.  The purpose of pulseaudio is to allow half-duplex soundcards to act like full-duplex.21:13
poisoned_dragonOh, aren't most newer cards full duplex, Gnea?21:14
Gneas1pher: no, you'll need to bring up synaptic and edit your software sources21:14
Gneapoisoned_dragon: not the cheap ones21:14
s1pherok thanks21:14
poisoned_dragonWell, I don't mean soundmax...21:14
zheoffecGnea: in my case its integrated, so i guess its a half-duplex. so pulseaudio mixes the >= 2 audio sources by itself at the expense of latency?21:14
poisoned_dragonI'm talking Realtek and others like it.21:14
Gneazheoffec: yeah, the speed of your overall system will determine how well and how fast they are mixed21:15
poisoned_dragonEvil Analog Devices. lol21:15
WalexGnea: that's a very confused (and probably very wrong) explanation of what PulseAudio is for.21:15
Gneazheoffec: worst case scenario is you start to hear some skipping through the speakers21:15
poisoned_dragonOh, and VIA. That chip maker is horrible for graphics and almost as bad for audio.21:15
GneaWalex: Feel free to offer a better one then.  Your negative comments on my explanation are optional, not required.21:16
Walexzheoffec: Gnea: PulseAudio tries to solve 2-3 problems: many cards do not dop hardware mixing (which is not the same thing as full duplex), and many applications use different sound APIs.21:17
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Walexzheoffec: Gnea: PulseAdio tries to offer every known sound API, and then does mixing withing itself among all the application sound that arrives over all those APIs.21:18
zheoffecso what will happen if two apps try to output sound at the same time and i dont have pulseaudio?21:18
Walexzheoffec: PulseAudio also can do other things than software mixing, like *de*-mixing, and sound effects.21:19
zheoffeci dont have pulseaudio21:19
Walexzheoffec: if you don't have PulseAAudio different things can happen depending on the sound APIs used by the applications that try to write sound at the same time.21:19
s1pherhow do I remove http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source21:20
poisoned_dragonBasically, Pulseaudio in audio is like AVISynth in video production.21:20
Walexzheoffec: for example if *both* applications use the ALSA sound API, *and* the ALSA library has been setup to do software mixing, then they will both be able to write.21:20
wireless1Is there a command to force enable a hard blocked wirless card?21:20
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: should I restart or just log / in /out for restricted extras to work ?21:20
Walexzheoffec: but most sound APIs don't povide a means to so sw mixing.21:20
Walexzheoffec: note that what Gnea wrote about latency is correct: sw mixing does cost a bit in terms of latency.21:21
wilee-nileeVivekananda, No logout needed.21:21
PhysicistHow can I check the RAM status in windows 7?21:21
poisoned_dragonlulz, really Physicist? In an ubuntu room?21:22
Walexzheoffec: BTW there are some sound cards that can do hw mixing, but they are very rare.21:22
zheoffecWalex: so i guess that (with my os being arch) i should install pulseaudio then21:22
zheoffeclol poisoned_dragon21:22
wilee-nileePhysicist, The task manager will list the ram amount or compter right click properties.21:22
PhysicistI hate windows..21:23
Physicistno offense,,21:23
zheoffecdont we all21:23
Walexzheoffec: I don't like PulseAudio for some reasons, but nowadays it is almost mandatory. It is either that or using applications that use only the ALSA sound API.21:23
poisoned_dragonPhysicist: right click the taskbar and select task manager, or press ctrl+alt+del and select task manager21:23
Walexzheoffec: one of the great ironies is that PulseAudiop as a rule uses the ALSA sound API itself, so the typical setup is to redirect the ALSA API to PulseAudiio, and then PulseAudio uses the base ALSA API itself to write the sound to the card after mixing/adapting it.21:24
wireless1Alternate quesiton, does anyone know where the wireless button on an acer 5040 is? I'm missing most of the plating on this laptop :P21:24
Walexsound is unfortunately a complicated story, with a lot of subtle issues if one wants good quality sound.21:25
PhysicistOk.. I am in Linux Mint.... My stupid uncle have one dell with windows 7... Lord..21:25
Walexwireless1: try ##hardware21:25
rhizmoehi all21:25
poisoned_dragonwireless1: google image search21:26
zheoffecWalex: so what would happen if I installed pulse on top of OSS?21:26
Vivekanandawilee-nilee: so I have to close and reopen libre office then ? or is that too not needed ?21:26
rhizmoei have a text file (subversion dump file actually) that I have backed up to another machine. on both machines the file is the same size, but the md5sum's are different. what could cause that?21:26
poisoned_dragonThere is plugin support for pulse and oss.21:26
poisoned_dragonIf I recall correctly21:27
wireless1poisoned_dragon: Tried that. I just got a bunch of questionably child-safe images21:27
poisoned_dragonoh gees21:27
ahalversonrhizmoe: possibly the time you saved/modified the file21:27
OerHekswireless http://www.acompatible.com/72-72-thickbox/acer-aspire-5040-keyboard-replacement-brand-new-us-layout.jpg21:27
wireless1that's internet for ya21:27
Walexrhizmoe: different SBM keywords?21:27
Walexrhizmoe: different SVN keywords?21:27
s1pherhow do i remove the how do I remove http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source package?21:27
ronalds_mazso I had installed kde for some time, and now fonts are weird in firefox bookmarks, how do I manage to get defaults21:27
cloudgeekmy ~/.rvm is empty but my /usr/local/rvm is have all code, now i want make sybolic link ln -s , how i can use21:27
wilee-nileeVivekananda, Probably.21:27
cloudgeekln -s /usr/local/rvm ~/.rvm21:28
cloudgeekln -s ~/.rvm /usr/local/rvm21:28
rhizmoeWalex: nah, it's one dump that was copied to antoher machine21:28