[00:00] <ZinnSoldat> ok how can i get an ununtu livecd?
[00:01] <supertough> can not mount samsung galaxy s3 on ubuntu 12.10
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> ZinnSoldat, the cd's you burned are they not live cd"s
[00:01] <newbie|3> @wilee-nilee hey pls
[00:01] <RyanTG> Use the one from the install.  Just select run from CD instead of install at the boot menu.
[00:01] <adamsilver> diaboliq: no a Mac
[00:01] <adamsilver> diaboliq: why?
[00:02] <supertough> can someone go to google HQ and slap the douchebag for making MTP on android devices
[00:02] <Scotch`Slugworth> adamsilver: a profile is what contains your wireless settings. I refuse to use gnome so sorry i cna not help more then that
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> newbie|3, Not an area I am really the best help in to be honest. ;)
[00:02] <adamsilver> Scotch`Slugworth: ok thanks
[00:02] <RyanTG> supertough: go into your usb settings and change it if you don't want mtp mode.
[00:02] <supertough> did that it didn't work.
[00:02] <supertough> still not mounted
[00:03] <RyanTG> supertough: usb sticks mount fine on that system?
[00:03] <supertough> yes RyanTG
[00:03] <Scotch`Slugworth> supertough: sorry but MTP is all that is available on current Android
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> supertough, YOu need the sdk kit and adb drivers I believe I have used gMTP though, rather a clunky app.
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> not with that phone though
[00:04] <supertough> I got the gMTP but I can't copy files from my phone to my computer using gMTP
[00:04] <Scotch`Slugworth> supertough: i to dislike MTP (namely cause its buggy with linux) but having the SD card demount from Android inorder to mount for the host PC, well MTP solves a lot of bugs there
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> supertough, I use this with my nexus 7 running 4.2.2 http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[00:06] <supertough> I dual boot my pc just hate the inconvenience of going back and forth to windows just so I can copy files from my phone to my PC
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> supertough, I just use W8 most of the time the nexus is rooted so I can do most without a computer at all.
[00:07] <Scotch`Slugworth> supertough: what is it you want to do anyhow? just move some fiiles?
[00:07] <RyanTG> supertough: I just run VirtualBox.  Then I can boot Windows inside Linux when I need something Linux doesn't run (yet).
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> supertough, I suspect the go-mtpfs link will work fine try it.
[00:07] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: Hey, I'm having problems.
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> RileyGuy: With Minecraft? :)
[00:08] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: Yes.
[00:08] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: It runs flawlessly but the sound is out of sync :/
[00:09] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: The more times i start it up the more it gets out of sync D:
[00:10] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: Lets go in private chat again :#
[00:10] <RileyGuy> :3 *
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> RileyGuy: Is there a #java channel (secondary namespace I bet?) here on freenode? If so, you might take it up with then.
[00:11] <SonikkuAmerica> *them.
[00:12] <RileyGuy> SonikkuAmerica: Idk maybe
[00:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Secondary: ##java is the channel
[00:14] <dioxide> whats the proper, or most common way of disabling services in ubuntu server
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> dioxide, You might ask in #ubuntu-server and be specific here or there. ;)
[00:17] <dioxide> thanks.  specific about what?
[00:17] <jrib> dioxide: depends on the service and whether it's setup using upstart or the old sysv-init-style scripts
[00:17] <dioxide> ah.
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> dioxide, The services you want disable.
[00:19] <dioxide> well specifically, pretty much everything but apache, sendmail, and sshd.  ive been removing scripts from /etc/init and /etc/init.d, but wondered if was something similar to bom, for console use
[00:21] <dioxide> or bum, sorry
[00:21] <dioxide> boot-up manager
[00:22] <yigal> MonkeyDust: I believe the kernel is now building properly (cross compiled on my desktop) looking forward to this
[00:22] <tgm4883> dioxide, everything but those three? Seems kinda odd to have apache if you have no networking
[00:23] <dioxide> tgm4883:  the non essential everything but those
[00:24] <tgm4883> dioxide, in a default server install, what is non-essential?
[00:25] <dioxide> its probably not a default install, its what my vps provider offers.  bind and mysqld, to start with
[00:25] <tgm4883> yea thats not a default install
[00:25] <tgm4883> dioxide, why not remove them if you don't want them?
[00:25] <learning> hello guys, can someone take on this question and guide me in some information, i have an media player it's running some custom firmware but it is shiped with busybox(have root access to it from telnet, have wget/exec etc my question is can i somehow boot up a live ubuntu usb stick on it etc thanks!
[00:26] <dr_willis> learning:  totally depends on the exact hardware.
[00:26] <tgm4883> learning, probalby not
[00:26] <tgm4883> learning, what processor
[00:26] <dioxide> tgm4883:  id rather start by having them not automatically start at boot, then remove them when im sure everything else is working as it should
[00:26] <dr_willis> learning: i have several 'set top box media players' that use linux in one form or another. - most are not very 'hackable'
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> learning, There are minimal requirements to run ubuntu have you checked if this device meets them.
[00:27] <tiredman> Anyone know how to power power off a web server at the command line?
[00:28] <learning> it's a roxcore ez-play stream not sure what the specs are will take a look
[00:28] <dioxide> tiredman:  apache?  service apache2 stop
[00:28] <dr_willis> tiredman:  power down the machine?  the shutdown command, or poweroff command
[00:28] <tgm4883> dioxide, what version of ubuntu
[00:28] <Ponch0> anyone know how to work with grub rescue?
[00:28] <tiredman> dioxide: I use nginx
[00:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | Ponch0
[00:28] <Ponch0> I'm trying to follow the instructions I found but says unkonw command 'linux'
[00:29] <Ponch0> it's as real as it gets
[00:29] <tiredman> I just need to power off the server, before I downsize it on my host from 1GB to 512MB
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Can you describe how you got there, say grub modifications..etc
[00:29] <dioxide> tiredman:  service nginx stop, if its just the httpd you want to stop.  are you trying to turn the whole thing off or just the service
[00:29] <dioxide> ah
[00:29] <tgm4883> dioxide, or rather, what version of upstart?
[00:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Ponch0: You can't use that... you need to boot from live media and run boot-repair
[00:29] <dioxide> tiredman:  shutdown -h now
[00:29] <dioxide> tgm4883:  sec
[00:29] <tiredman> dioxide: thank you
[00:29] <Ponch0> ok thank you. how would I run boot repair?
[00:30] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I installed ubuntu on external HD
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Do you have the external being read first and did you make sure grub was put in its mbr?
[00:31] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I did not make sure of that no, I thought it would just do it.
[00:31] <dioxide> tiredman:  1.8
[00:32] <Ponch0> I thought wrong obviously
[00:32] <tgm4883> dioxide, is that at me?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Do you have any other ubuntu installs, or just the external. Grub went somewhere probably the internals mbr.
[00:32] <dioxide> tgm4883:  yea sorry. if upstart is where i wanna start lookin, ill scour the docs.
[00:32] <tgm4883> dioxide, in upstart 1.3 or later, you can disable jobs using an override file
[00:32] <tgm4883> dioxide, eg.    echo "manual" >> /etc/init/myjob.override
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Was this a usb install it might be there?
[00:33] <tgm4883> dioxide, http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[00:33] <dioxide> tgm4883:  thank you, sir
[00:33] <tgm4883> yw
[00:33] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: it's a usb external hd yes, but it was installed off of a CD
[00:33] <Ponch0> I found grub with ls in grub rescue I just can't set it to that for some reason following the instructions I found online
[00:34] <Ponch0> I'm in Live right now, it says it's not mounted, does that matter?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, If you are familiar with a chroot and just running the grub-install /dev/sdX  "X= the external HD no partition numbers" you can use this link, if you do this be sure to run update-grub as well. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[00:35] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I'm not familiar with chroot at all.
[00:35] <mikehaas763> It seems like every once in a great while my mx 5500 keyboard loses its hotkey functionality. volumes, mute, play pause etc. Then it seems like it takes an indefinate amount of time until it starts working again. Maybe a week or so. Why would this be happening and how can I fix it?
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, FRom a live cd you will have to mount or chroot, however the bootrepiar tool may work if used correctly, personally I don't use it, but some find it helpful, but be careful.  Ponch0.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:38] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: thank you.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, No problem, YOu might just consider reinstalling it to learn the manual install and pointing grub correctly. ;)
[00:40] <Ponch0> How do I point the grub, it did not give me that option.
[00:41] <Ponch0> I manually partitioned the HD but it never asked me to point grub anywhere.
[00:42] <Nek> Hello. I'm experimenting big problems with installing windows/Ubuntu on a computer with efi & 2 hdd.
[00:42] <Nek> When i installé windows all works
[00:42] <Ponch0> ok boot-repair not found this package isn't locatable
[00:42] <Nek> Install *
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, In the install gui is a choice called something else, in the first screen is a dropdown it shows where grub is pointed to. You have to do a few other things there like set the mount for the partition as / and activate the partition opr make one if needed.
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> or*
[00:43] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I did that, I created swap area and ext4 main partition as root
[00:43] <xomniverse> on raring ringtail, unable to install AMD 13.1 drivers because /lib/modules/3.8.0-17-generic/build/include/linux/version.h is missing even though I have the headers package installed. any ideas on this?
[00:43] <learning> tgm4883: could not find out what processor it has any other information i can get to find out if it can boot..
[00:43] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: i'm able to get into synaptic package manager, should I install download grub ?
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, In that first screen you missed the dropdown below the listing of the partitons it sounds like.
[00:44] <Nek> When i connect my hdd with Ubuntu nothing work. I get an error from GRUB (rescue mode)
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, No grub is installed are you in the ubuntu install now.
[00:44] <Nek> Why???
[00:44] <Ponch0> yes i'm in Live.
[00:45] <Nek> When i use thé boot repair, linux work again. But not windows...
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, No, you want the grub bootloader in the mbr, you have to mount it, chroot it the install that is, or cautiously use the boot repair app.
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> !grub } Ponch0
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> !grub | Ponch0
[00:46] <Ponch0> this boot-repair app doesn't exist
[00:47] <Nek> It does. I use it...
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, You are not following the posts I gave you the address where it is at, as well the link from the bot mentions it.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, I have given you a fat toolkit, take a look. ;)
[00:49] <Nek> Nobody for my... Special problem ? :/
[00:49] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: I know and I love you for that but I went into synaptic package manager marked all the grub installs for re-install and now it's asking me where to set up grub!!
[00:49] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: so I get to choose which disk to install it to, would you have an idea if it goes on the main HD or the external?
[00:50] <Areckx> I am having this problem when I have windows in full screen, something is changed and I switch workspaces, and the toolbar on the bottom and top cover the full screen window :: http://i.imgur.com/qhkyzyq.png
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, You can't fix your  grub problem from synaptic
[00:50] <Ponch0> ah boo
[00:50] <learning> if a media player does not use grub to boot what other ways does it use to boot cause if i could just change that to boot from usb and see if it boots up ubuntu maybe ""i'm hopeful" ;) any ideas?
[00:52] <diaboliq> media player? with a usb slot?
[00:52] <learning> yeah
[00:52] <learning> media player with usb slot
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Any way I have to shop for dinner so best of luck. ;)
[00:53] <Ponch0> thank you, good luck with dinner
[00:53] <Areckx> This may be related:: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/986699
[00:54] <diaboliq> well unless your googling turns up something learning i would open up the manual to see if there is hope or a complete waste of effort
[00:54] <diaboliq> there were other bootloaders before grub btw
[00:56] <learning> i checked the manual and have not seen a more lame manual for it like 2 pages one with just what formats it supports and other with random stuff not anything useful i have checked busybox website and the faq and wiki stuff but there is not any info stating how to boot into other distros etc
[00:56] <dioxide> tgm4883: if youre interested,  i found a bum replacement for console.  rcconf handles the stuff upstart doesnt
[00:58] <Nek> Grrrr. Grub is before all of them. Why. Why. Why????
[01:00] <learning> the stuff i have learned so far is that it runs the sh and reads from profile file and loades up a bin file for media player and what not it runs from ash so the shell is ash and yeah still a bit clueless atm but i would so like to know if it can be done it drives me but i need a lead of some sort :P
[01:03] <dioxide> learning:  check /proc/cpuinfo to see if you can find out what arch it is
[01:04] <theso> cant get into #defocus
[01:05] <trakowski77> I updated from 12.04 to 12.10 and in gnome shell I'm getting black areas in some windows... always in same windows, always the same areas
[01:05] <trakowski77> I did the upgrade on 2 different machines with exactly the same results.
[01:06] <RobbyF> I'm probably wrong but I'll give a suggestion. Sounds like video drivers
[01:06] <RobbyF> I 'think' I had a similar issue but that a year ago.
[01:07] <diaboliq> are they set to transparent, trakowski77
[01:07] <diaboliq> maybe they need a root background
[01:07] <Areckx> I am having this problem when I have windows in full screen, something is changed and I switch workspaces, and the toolbar on the bottom and top cover the full screen window :: http://i.imgur.com/qhkyzyq.png
[01:08] <trakowski77> diaboliq: No just black
[01:09] <willows> hey, i'm looking to edit the file ~/.nanorc. However, I can't find it.. Any ideas?
[01:10] <learning> lol permision denied to run cpuinfo and wont budge when chmod or chown it :(
[01:12] <trakowski77> this is how it looks
[01:12] <trakowski77> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58835341/broken-1.png
[01:12] <trakowski77> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58835341/broken-2.png
[01:12] <diaboliq> willows your filemanager.
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> diaboliq: willows left
[01:13] <trakowski77> those places used to have a light gray background in both application (pidgin and eclipse)
[01:13] <ner0x> Anyone using skype in here know the best way to figure out how to setup the microphoen?
[01:13] <kriskropd> i'm trying to get audio to work on my ubuntu netinstall of 12.10 http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU - it worked with a normal livecd using pulseaudio and alsa and kernel version 17, but on the netinstall with version 27 kernel it doesn't work :/
[01:13] <trakowski77> it I have seen these issues in some other applications as well
[01:15] <kriskropd> I've tried adding options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 model=auto to the alsa-base.conf file too
[01:15] <kriskropd> and im looking through kernel configuration to see if im missing an option - anyone got a clue on this?
[01:18] <tocsick> Hey all, the new updates have made mouse scrolling "jerky" (moves up and down unpredictably). Any idea how to fix?
[01:18] <trakowski77> any ideas about these black areas inside windows ?
[01:19] <trakowski77> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58835341/broken-1.png
[01:19] <trakowski77> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58835341/broken-2.png
[01:19] <vicTROLLA> trakowski77, do you have a theme configured?
[01:19] <trakowski77> default theme
[01:20] <trakowski77> sorry
[01:20] <trakowski77> adwaita
[01:20] <trakowski77> but I did not touch anything
[01:20] <trakowski77> just upgraded from 12.04 that worked fine
[01:20] <trakowski77> to 12.10
[01:20] <warfaren> I've got a laptop with a 1920x1200 screen but I wanna run it in 1280x800. However it only lets me choose 1920x1200 and no other res, what can I do? In Lucid i simply added modelines and resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but now in quantal it doesn't pick those up?
[01:21] <vicTROLLA> trakowski77, I use KDE so I'm just guessing here but it looks like the adwaita dark theme
[01:21] <trakowski77> same problem occurred on 2 different machines
[01:21] <trakowski77> the them is light gray everywhere
[01:21] <trakowski77> except some very specific area
[01:21] <trakowski77> areas
[01:22] <trakowski77> also regardless of which theme I choose the problem remains
[01:22] <diaboliq> some apps might not support/work with the theme 100%
[01:23] <trakowski77> these 2 screenshot are related to eclipse and pidgin
[01:23] <diaboliq> they aren't 100% compliant
[01:23] <trakowski77> they worked fine on 12.04
[01:23] <trakowski77> :(
[01:24] <tocsick> hey everyone. how do i install the backports for my mouse? The new updates have been giving me problems with scrolling.
[01:24] <learning> i give up for now :P
[01:25] <diaboliq> trakowski77,  do those programs have their own settings for theme preferences
[01:25] <trakowski77> Let me check
[01:25] <Nek> Grub efi windows doesn't boot... Do you know why?
[01:26] <ner0x> Or possibly help me figure out how to get my audio working. :(
[01:27] <trakowski77> diaboliq: I do not see anything related to colors, but I have seen the same issue at some point in Nautilus, which is native gnome3 app
[01:28] <DeadWeasel> l
[01:28] <trakowski77> My feeling is it's somehow related to gtk3 ..
[01:28] <diaboliq> when you upgraded to 12.10 did those apps get updated as well
[01:28] <trakowski77> yeah.
[01:29] <trakowski77> well
[01:29] <trakowski77> acctually the apps did not
[01:29] <harris> rar ubuntu sucks my internet wont connect to wifi
[01:29] <trakowski77> except for nautilus
[01:29] <trakowski77> which is part of gnome-shell
[01:29] <harris> it loads and loads and loads
[01:29] <harris> then says disconected
[01:30] <OerHeks> harris what did you do last time when you had this issue?
[01:31] <harris> i dont remember
[01:31] <harris> it just worked
[01:32] <diaboliq> ugh trakowski77 i would switch to the terminal versions of those sorry apps
[01:32] <harris> i just want my wifi :(
[01:32] <trakowski77> diaboliq: after playing around with themes, when I switch to high contrast, the problem fixes itself
[01:33] <trakowski77> I suspect that the upgrade process bypassed my personal thems
[01:33] <diaboliq> oh like a reset nice trakowski77 !
[01:33] <trakowski77> themes
[01:33] <trakowski77> and the old theme is not compatible with the new one
[01:33] <diaboliq> see what happens next login
[01:33] <diaboliq> (now that you know a fix/workaround)
[01:34] <trakowski77> I think I'm on the right track .. thanks for your help ;)
[01:35] <diaboliq> yw though tbh you fixed on your own lol
[01:37] <warfaren> i got no answer for 15 minutes now, may i ask my question again?
[01:37] <nexus`> whats up warfaren
[01:37] <warfaren> I've got a laptop with a 1920x1200 screen but I wanna run it in 1280x800. However it only lets me choose 1920x1200 and no other res, what can I do? In Lucid i simply added modelines and resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but now in quantal it doesn't pick those up?
[01:38] <warfaren> also i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nv/+bug/1083786 and i also have nv graphics so it might be the same bug for me :(
[01:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Is nv still even supported? (I didn't think it was)
[01:40] <warfaren> what do you mean?
[01:40] <SonikkuAmerica> I thought nv was dumped for nouveau
[01:40] <warfaren> nv as in nvidia, i have an nvidia graphics adaptor.
[01:40] <warfaren> i'm using the proprietary driver now but the problem was the before i installed it aswell
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> warfaren: Ohhh... that isn't nv.
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> !nv
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Well that was a fail.
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> I meant to say xserver-xorg-video-nv
[01:42] <SonikkuAmerica> isn't what you have then.
[01:42] <warfaren> alright. well i think i see what you're saying. anyways the guy who posted the bug also has an nvidia gpu and the same problem with the proprietary driver aswell as far as i could see
[01:42] <SonikkuAmerica> No, his isn't the proprietary driver. Did you install from jockey (Additional Drivers) or from a shell script?
[01:43] <warfaren> i did sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Then that's nvidia-current, not nv
[01:43] <warfaren> which i assume is pretty much the same as jockey
[01:43] <Morpheaus> !nv
[01:43] <warfaren> yeah fair enough. but the guy that posted the bug mentions that he tried it too
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Not if you got it from x-swat (that's another story)
[01:43] <Morpheaus> didn't see the one from b4
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> No worries, 'twas the wrong thing anyway
[01:46] <warfaren> ok so let's forget about nv and noveau and focus on my problem please?
[01:47] <warfaren> it will not let me choose any other res than the highest no matter if i'm using the proprietary drive ror not
[01:47] <OerHeks> luxury problem
[01:47] <warfaren> i tried cvt 1280 800 60 followed by xrandr --newmode "1280x800_60.00"   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680  800 803 809 831 -hsync +vsync ... but that did nothing
[01:49] <mac> hy all.. i am runnig trugh the instructions and setup of gnome-phone-manager.. i stoped bye, to ask this.. i also need evolution data server.. and i got two of them in ubuntu software center.. one got (metacity) - is what? need that one?
[01:50] <Morpheaus> warfaren, have you checked this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084529
[01:51] <OerHeks> warfaren, 1920x1200 , look at this metacode  >>> "metamodes" "DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1024x768 +0+0; DF    >>>>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/224776/how-do-i-rotate-my-monitor-using-xorg
[01:52] <OerHeks> so try  1280x1024_60 or: 1280x960 or
[01:53] <OerHeks> the last one should work, 1024x768
[01:53] <warfaren> hm for some reason xrandr --newmode added it to the wrong display? when i type xrandr -q to look i see it added to DVI-D instead of my laptop screen (which still only has 1920x1200 that i dont want)
[01:53] <diaboliq>   you have 2 displays ?
[01:54] <warfaren> no
[01:54] <warfaren> but it adds it to DVI-D that i'm not using
[01:54] <warfaren> when i check "xrandr -q"
[01:55] <diaboliq> does it say 'disconnected' for DVI-D
[01:55] <mac> what is metacityž
[01:55] <mac> what is metacity
[01:55] <Morpheaus> !metacity
[01:55] <OerHeks> !metacity
[01:55] <warfaren> diaboliq: yes it does
[01:56] <OerHeks> !info metacity
[01:56] <Morpheaus> mac, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metacity
[01:56] <moyam01> i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing
[01:56] <warfaren> in fact i get errors when using --newmode (as root, nothing as normal user)
[01:57] <diaboliq> what are those errors
[01:57] <warfaren> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist) Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[01:57] <warfaren> and some more lines. dont wanna spam here
[01:58] <Morpheaus> use pastebin
[01:58] <Morpheaus> and then post link
[01:58] <mac> thank u.. and greetings from Trinity?
[01:58] <warfaren> yeah may aswell.. i just dont know what to do, if i'm doing the right thing at all..
[01:59] <diaboliq> try what OerHeks suggested, the metamode
[01:59] <diaboliq> warfaren, ^
[01:59] <cane_corso> hello
[01:59] <warfaren> yeah i read a little on it but i'm not sure i understand it and where i use it?
[02:00] <warfaren> here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/tLTudfCg
[02:00] <diaboliq> if you ran the nvidia-installer you have a tool called nvidia-xconfig iirc
[02:00] <warfaren> yeah i have that
[02:01] <warfaren> it recreated my xorg.conf
[02:01] <Tex_Nick> !who
[02:03] <nurow> how difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?
[02:04] <nurow> I need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.
[02:04] <diaboliq> warfaren, if one already existed did it replace the original, usually it makes a new one somepalce else IIRC
[02:04] <warfaren> yeah it did. it replaced the one i had edited myself with a text editor
[02:05] <Pinkamena_D> Recently I have been having a problem where nothing is auto mounting. USB flash drives, Sd cards, CD/DVDs, I can mount then manually with MOUNT, but the will not pop up in the sidebar like they used to.
[02:05] <Pinkamena_D> any suggestions?
[02:05] <warfaren> diaboliq: i did some things like hide the nvidia logo when the window manager starts and added in the mode lines i was using back on lucid (the same way i added them there, but then it was working)
[02:06] <warfaren> but i looked at the new xorg.conf that it made and it did preserve my changes
[02:06] <diaboliq> do you still have that, the metamodes goes into Device section for the gfx card
[02:06] <diaboliq> no wait
[02:06] <warfaren> i'll post you my current xorg.conf
[02:06] <diaboliq> then it put the new xorg.conf someplace
[02:08] <diaboliq> also pastebin the Xorg log warfaren
[02:08] <warfaren> diaboliq: /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[02:09] <diaboliq> do an ls -l on it to see if it is the most recent
[02:09] <diaboliq> or at least the last one when you had a new xorg.conf
[02:09] <warfaren> /etc/X11/xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/PiS34FBj
[02:10] <warfaren> it should be, there's only Xorg.0.log and Xorg.0.log.old in there
[02:11] <nurow> how difficult is it to upgrade from Ubuntu 13.04 beta 2 to the final release?
[02:11] <nurow> I need to re-install ubuntu, and am trying to decide if I should install that or 12.10.
[02:11] <tgm4883> !OT | nurow
[02:11] <diaboliq> warfaren, are there also Xorg.1.log etc?
[02:12] <nurow> k
[02:12] <diaboliq> warfaren, in that dir
[02:12] <warfaren> no
[02:12] <diaboliq> k
[02:12] <warfaren> it's a fresh installed system
[02:12] <deusr> hi people!
[02:12] <deusr> Can anyone help me? I want to configure the touchpad with synclient. I've already configured, put the file in "/ etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf" but ubuntu will not start the setup.
[02:13] <diaboliq> warfaren, pasted the log yet
[02:14] <warfaren> on it.. just wanted to look through it so i dont paste something i dont want to publicize
[02:14] <warfaren> uh.. publish*
[02:14] <diaboliq> dont even think of editing it warfaren
[02:14] <warfaren> okay?
[02:14] <diaboliq> oh security gotcha, my bad
[02:15] <warfaren> yeah i just want to see what i'm posting about my system
[02:15] <diaboliq> yeah it could be work related for the adult industry lol
[02:16] <Ari-Yang> Hello, what's the advantage of disabling 'Undredirect Fullscreen Windows' in the compizconfig settings manager?
[02:16] <warfaren> haha
[02:17] <warfaren> diaboliq: here's the log: http://pastebin.com/inZ94uJP
[02:17] <mac_> hy, all.. i mest up something.. following instructions i have tu press alt-f2 and than --replace
[02:17] <mac_> now i cant do anything
[02:20] <diaboliq> warfaren, did you see where it refused the 1280x800
[02:20] <warfaren> no? does it say it in the log?
[02:20] <diaboliq> the first place you ought to look
[02:20] <warfaren> ohyeah.. i see it now
[02:21] <warfaren> yeah i guess you're right about that
[02:21] <diaboliq> do you have the nvidia xserver settings on the menu?
[02:21] <warfaren> yeah
[02:21] <diaboliq> liek to make adjustments
[02:21] <diaboliq> maybe it will accept there lets try it
[02:22] <warfaren> i've tried it. can only choose 1920x1200 there aswell in the drop down menu
[02:22] <diaboliq> warfaren, go into advanced and try that
[02:22] <warfaren> yeah so i get "Panning:"
[02:23] <diaboliq> because your physical screen can go bigger
[02:23] <SierraAR> In ubuntu server 12.04, how can I find what the server's lan ip is?
[02:23] <diaboliq> you want o block out what is showing 'force the small one'
[02:23] <SierraAR> I.e. 192.168.0.343 or something like that?
[02:23] <warfaren> okay, well if i type in 1280x800 there the apply button gets greyed out
[02:23] <diaboliq> no no
[02:23] <diaboliq> wait warfaren
[02:23] <diaboliq> its the block that wouldn't show
[02:24] <diaboliq> so your screen prefers how big? 1920 x what
[02:24] <warfaren> 1200
[02:24] <warfaren> that's the native res
[02:24] <diaboliq> ok but really wanted 1280x800
[02:24] <warfaren> yes
[02:25] <diaboliq> sosby, that means 1 sec i'm trying to recall
[02:25] <warfaren> 1920x1200 is much too small and i know i can increase DPI but then i still dont get to choose lower resolutions for games so they will lag
[02:26] <cortexA9> hello all
[02:26] <warfaren> and games (steam) was the reason i left 10.04 for quantal..
[02:27] <diaboliq> theres a gray area 1920-1280 and    640 x 400
[02:27] <warfaren> i've got a 12.04 live cd aswell. might pop it in and see if it lets me choose other resolutions than 1920x1200
[02:27] <warfaren> yeah i don't get to choose 640x480 either
[02:27] <warfaren> only 1920x1200, nothing else
[02:28] <TimothyA> I have an issue with ubuntu: for some reason it's complaining I do not have enough space left on / but I have 24GB available
[02:28] <TimothyA> what should I check first?
[02:29] <TimothyA> rootfs           39G   14G   24G  37% /
[02:29] <warfaren> diaboliq: ok i messed around with panning, i clearly understand what it does now
[02:29] <SierraAR> On another note, what can cause ubuntu server to show this when I try running 'sudo shutdown now'?
[02:29] <SierraAR> http://sierrabrown.toxic-productions.com/ss/rtejw4s5jwazrt5.png
[02:30] <diaboliq> warfaren, kewl
[02:30] <warfaren> heh, really had to see it to understand it
[02:30] <warfaren> but it's no help here since it only lets me go higher, not lower
[02:30] <moyam01> i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing
[02:30] <diaboliq> heres what i found warfaren
[02:31] <diaboliq> Option "MetaModes" "1024x768 @1600x1200, 800x600 @1024x768"
[02:31] <TimothyA> what.... how is this possible
[02:31] <diaboliq> he put the smaller rez with the @
[02:31] <warfaren> diaboliq: want me to add that in xorg.conf?
[02:31] <machicola> does 7 zip not work for RARs? I'm getting errors on the extract... are there any Ubuntu utils for .rar files?
[02:31] <machicola> extracting*
[02:31] <diaboliq> but use your numbers warfaren
[02:32] <diaboliq> machicola, use unrar
[02:32] <tgm4883> machicola, did you try the unrar package
[02:32] <Zacaro> machicola: sudo apt-get install unrar
[02:32] <warfaren> which would be?
[02:32] <warfaren> i have     Option         "metamodes" "1280x800 +0+0"
[02:32] <machicola> k thx
[02:32] <warfaren> in the file already
[02:32] <diaboliq> but you know what that does
[02:32] <TimothyA> why would ubuntu do this all of a sudden?
[02:33] <diaboliq> so 1280x800@1920x900 +0+0
[02:33] <TimothyA> I still have plenty of diskspace left, but ubuntu goes "No, you don't"
[02:33] <warfaren> diaboliq: no, it's just something i created years ago when i was running 10.04.. it's what i came up with after following a tutorial
[02:33] <warfaren> hm okay ill try that
[02:33] <diaboliq> but make sure my numbers match
[02:33] <warfaren> yeah
[02:33] <diaboliq> hey at this point...
[02:33] <diaboliq> lol
[02:34] <warfaren> btw, when editing xorg.conf, do i need to restart the whole system or just the window manager (i.e. logging out) to apply the changes?
[02:34] <machicola> what is command line syntax to extract a single file with unrar?
[02:34] <rlaager> I'm running Precise. I applied a few updates and now my DPI is (improperly) being calculated at 96.
[02:34] <warfaren> i assume window manager as that's what loads X?
[02:34] <diaboliq> log out warfaren then service lxdm stop or someth like that
[02:34] <hh> test
[02:35] <warfaren> kay
[02:35] <machicola> hah, found it!
[02:35] <diaboliq> warfaren, specially the DM if you have a login or autologin
[02:35] <warfaren> yeah no auto login here
[02:35] <TimothyA> oh, problem found...
[02:35] <diaboliq> we dont need no steenkin...
[02:35] <warfaren> brb.
[02:35] <TimothyA> and I am not going to announce the answer
[02:36] <michel> anyone try fuduntu?
[02:37] <diaboliq> and so began TimothyA's descent
[02:37] <warfaren> diaboliq: hm, some progress... now when i choose 1920x1200 in nvidia x server settings i get 640x480 or something
[02:37] <warfaren> not the res that i asked but it's progress
[02:37] <diaboliq> time to check the new Xorg log...
[02:37] <warfaren> and the "auto" option being real 1920x1200
[02:37] <diaboliq> see why it 'liked' 640x480 warfaren
[02:38] <warfaren> yeah there's definately something in there.. ill pastebin the parts that look relevant
[02:38] <diaboliq> k
[02:38] <warfaren> http://pastebin.com/8pUF8NVZ there
[02:40] <warfaren> diaboliq: also i dunno what's LVDS-0 and DFP-0? i assume something like lenovo video and digital flat panel?
[02:41] <diaboliq> warfaren, LVDS is almost standard name (not lenovo) for the display on a laptop. DFP is digital flat panel
[02:41] <warfaren> ok.
[02:41] <diaboliq> thats why even xrandr uses those terms
[02:42] <warfaren> i see. so what do you make of the last log i posted?
[02:42] <nurow> for Intel 64 bit, which OS image do I use? AMD64?
[02:43] <warfaren> nurow: yeah that's fine
[02:43] <warfaren> nurow: it's only called AMD64 because AMD invented the 64 bit extension for the x86 architecture, it's sometimes also called x86-64 ... but intel uses the same thing too
[02:44] <diaboliq> warfaren, use /640 to scan for the first instance of 640x480 (maybe a warning)
[02:44] <diaboliq> when you do 'more Xorg.0.log'
[02:44] <warfaren> you want me to grep for "640" in the log?
[02:44] <Renzatic> hey everyone, I've got a good, but likely simple and easily solved question to ask if you've got the time
[02:44] <warfaren> alright
[02:44] <Renzatic> ...and I'm beginning to think it's something else
[02:45] <warfaren> [  1965.393] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "LVDS-0:nvidia-auto-select{ViewPortIn=640x480,ViewPortOut=1600x1200+160+0}"
[02:45] <warfaren> [  1968.266] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Specified panning domain width of 640 is smaller than viewport
[02:45] <warfaren> [  1977.413] (WW) NVIDIA(0): Specified panning domain width of 640 is smaller than viewport
[02:47] <diaboliq> warfaren, whats the line in xorg look like, the metamode
[02:47] <Renzatic> okay...I'll go ahead and toss it out here in the hopes that someone answers. First off, I'm a complete Linux newbie, so, please, have patience with me
[02:47] <OerHeks> warfaren, 1920x1200 , look at this metacode  >>> "metamodes" "DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1920x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200 +0+0; DFP-0: 1600x1200_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x1024_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960 +0+0; DFP-0: 1280x960_60 +0+0; DFP-0: 1024x768 +0+0; DF    >>>>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/224776/how-do-i-rotate-my-monitor-using-xorg
[02:47] <OerHeks> so try  1280x1024_60 or: 1280x960 or the last one should work, 1024x768
[02:47] <Renzatic> at first I thought it was mouse lag, but from typing on here, it seems my entire computer is freezing for a few seconds at random
[02:47] <warfaren> yeah we were looking at that.. sorry i just didnt fully understand it
[02:48] <warfaren> diaboliq:     Option         "metamodes" "1280x800@1920x1200 +0+0"
[02:48] <warfaren> that right?
[02:48] <diaboliq> yes...but wrong by its standard
[02:48] <warfaren> ok
[02:48] <warfaren> so lets try what Oer is suggesting.. what do i do? i looked at the link too
[02:49] <warfaren> OerHeks: why should i try the resolutions you suggest though? aren't they 4:3? my screen is 16:10
[02:49] <diaboliq> warfaren, is this the actual laptop display?
[02:49] <warfaren> diaboliq: how do i know?
[02:50] <diaboliq> i mean no cable, this is physically the attached screen on a laptop?
[02:51] <warfaren> yes
[02:52] <Renzatic> okay, something is pegging my CPU at 100%, but my process monitor isn't showing what
[02:53] <warfaren> Renzatic: if you run top , what's the uppermost process?
[02:53] <Renzatic> okay, explain it to me like I'm 12 here. I'm assuming that's a terminal command, so how do I access it?
[02:54] <warfaren> Renzatic: yeah that's all. you run a terminal, type top and press enter
[02:54] <warfaren> you'll get a list of the processes running, sorted with the most cpu intensive at the top
[02:54] <Renzatic> syslog is what's eating all my cycles
[02:54] <warfaren> under the white bold line
[02:55] <Renzatic> 108.7 as of typing
[02:55] <warfaren> see the %CPU column? is it giving you a high value under that?
[02:55] <warfaren> okay
[02:55] <Renzatic> it's eating all of CPU1, and some of 2
[02:55] <Renzatic> and the problem just randomly started after a reboot
[02:55] <warfaren> well, there you have it i guess.. need to investigate syslog
[02:55] <warfaren> somehow
[02:55] <Renzatic> and what exactly is syslog? What does it do?
[02:55] <diaboliq> warfaren, heres the thing
[02:55] <Renzatic> wait, one thing I did notice...
[02:56] <warfaren> it's the program that produces your logs
[02:56] <Renzatic> it brought up some random info on boot about not being able to fully utilize my integrated NIC
[02:56] <diaboliq> Renzatic, go do top first andnot get distracted
[02:57] <warfaren> hm i guess you could look under /var/log and see if you have some rapdily growing files there
[02:57] <warfaren> diaboliq: i think he did
[02:57] <Renzatic> yup, I'm in here now
[02:57] <Renzatic> syslog is only occasionally topped by root
[02:57] <Renzatic> root constantly spikes, jumping between 7 and 65%
[02:58] <diaboliq> Renzatic, look for process names on the right
[02:58] <Renzatic> syslog will occasionally drop down to 40, but never lower
[02:58] <Renzatic> xorg and rsyslogd
[02:58] <diaboliq> you're looking at the who, not as important
[02:58] <warfaren> yeah.. if you do du -h /var/log/syslog a few times (press up arrow to bring back previous command) you'll see the file sizes and if some of them keeps increasing a lot that could be intesreting
[02:58] <Renzatic> k, let me check that out
[02:59] <warfaren> i mean if it's a log proccess going crazy it should write a lot of logs, right?
[02:59] <diaboliq> or the size as it adds records
[02:59] <Renzatic> ran it about 10 times, grew from 433 to 434 M (I'm assuming megs)
[02:59] <warfaren> yep
[02:59] <Renzatic> now at 436, so it's slowly growing
[02:59] <warfaren> yeah. that's just one meg.. but that sounds like one huge log file
[03:00] <warfaren> yeah that's not slowly for a log
[03:00] <Renzatic> so what would be causing it?
[03:00] <warfaren> if you're growing a few megabytes in a few seconds in a log file sometihng's horribly wrong
[03:00] <Renzatic> the only big changes I've made to my machine was experimenting with a few docks
[03:00] <warfaren> what's the big log called?
[03:00] <Renzatic> Cairo and Docky, which I immediately uninstalled and purged
[03:00] <diaboliq> goto the bottom Renzatic of the log see what it says
[03:01] <Renzatic> I assume I open up syslog?
[03:01] <warfaren> no
[03:01] <Renzatic> how would I do that from the terminal?
[03:01] <Renzatic> remember, I'm a newbie. I'm somewhat lost here :P
[03:02] <warfaren> in the output from that command (du -h /var/log ) one of the files you saw there was large right?
[03:02] <Renzatic> it just gave me a number
[03:02] <warfaren> hm oh yeah it doesnt list the files maybe.. sorry
[03:02] <warfaren> yeah it should, and give you the totals at the bottom
[03:02] <Renzatic> just to clarify, the command is "du -h /var/log/syslog" correct?
[03:03] <warfaren> oh yeah i messed up sorry
[03:03] <warfaren> well then we know what file it is
[03:03] <Renzatic> 452 meg as of right now
[03:03] <warfaren> so i found the right file right away. haha
[03:03] <warfaren> anyway. do: cat /var/log/syslog
[03:03] <warfaren> no wait
[03:03] <warfaren> do tail -50 /var/log/syslog
[03:04] <diaboliq> tail is right
[03:04] <warfaren> yeah if you did cat like i said first, press ctrl+c to make it stop
[03:04] <Renzatic> gave me a log list of hix numbers
[03:04] <Renzatic> er hex
[03:04] <warfaren> it will take you hours if it's several hundred megs
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> cat tails O.o XD
[03:04] <warfaren> :D
[03:04] <Renzatic> here's the last entry
[03:04] <SonikkuAmerica> But yeah, that's the way it's done
[03:04] <Renzatic> Apr 12 23:04:16 Matt1 kernel: [ 2045.638970] tulip 0000:04:06.0: eth1: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed (CSR5 0xffffffff CSR6 0xffffffff)
[03:05] <warfaren> is that the message you're getting over and over?
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> exit status 255 for both
[03:05] <warfaren> (that message being spammed in the log)?
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> *excuse me, not 255, much bigger
[03:05] <Renzatic> looks like it, some of the numbers do change, like the string after 2045.xxxxx
[03:05] <warfaren> yeah not 8bit :P
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> The correct number is -1
[03:06] <warfaren> yeah that's 32 bits of 1's
[03:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Blame my digital logic design training.
[03:06] <nurow> sorry if someone answered this already, I missed it:  for Intel 64 bit (i7), which OS image do I use? AMD64?
[03:07] <diaboliq> rather than your upbringing
[03:07] <warfaren> Renzatic: okay well you were right about what you said before.. it should be related to your nic
[03:07] <warfaren> Renzatic: "eth1" in there is your NIC
[03:07] <Morpheaus> nurow, either amd64 or i386
[03:07] <Renzatic> so assuming it is, unplugging it and disabling it should stop my log file from growing, correct?
[03:07] <Morpheaus> nurow, how much RAM do you have on the machine?
[03:07] <warfaren> nurow: yeah i answered that before. let me paste it again
[03:07] <warfaren> nurow: it's only called AMD64 because AMD invented the 64 bit extension for the x86 architecture, it's sometimes also called x86-64 ... but intel uses the same thing too
[03:08] <warfaren> nurow: so the answer is yes
[03:08] <nurow> awesome, thanks warfaren
[03:08] <MarkPit> @nurow yes
[03:08] <warfaren> np
[03:08] <warfaren> yeah amd64 if you want 64 bit and i386 if you want 32bit
[03:08] <Renzatic> okay, I'm gonna disconnect and see what happens. I've got a spare nic lying around, so I'll pop it in and see what happens
[03:08]  * akiradavis waves to the room
[03:08] <Renzatic> wish me luck everyone
[03:08]  * SonikkuAmerica waves back at akiradavis 
[03:08] <warfaren> yeah good luck :)
[03:09] <diaboliq> how will he connect...
[03:10] <Resistance> abcd
[03:10] <warfaren> diaboliq: okay so you were about to say something before we were helping him
[03:11] <warfaren> [04:55:51] < diaboliq> warfaren, heres the thing
[03:11] <diaboliq> here's the deal...the laptop can only do certain rez
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> diaboliq: Is it like mine where 1024x768 is the highest it can go
[03:11] <warfaren> yeah, the rest is done by scaling by the driver or something, right?
[03:11] <diaboliq> his is way too high
[03:11] <dabar> wilornel: Hello.
[03:11] <diaboliq> warfaren, not really
[03:11] <GinTonic> hello,can somebody give a 'invitation code' about http://chdbits.org ,thanks a lot
[03:12] <wilornel> hey dabar
[03:12] <diaboliq> warfaren, and when it shrinks down it skipped the rez you want
[03:12] <wilornel> dabar: I dont even know what to ask...
[03:12] <dabar> wilornel: I know what you need though, likely
[03:12] <warfaren> well like i said back when i was running 10.04 (hours ago really) i was using all sorts of resolutions, 1280x800, 1680x1050 and more
[03:12] <wilornel> dabar: I dont see where the problem is
[03:12] <dabar> wilornel: so, you want to enable mod_rewrite on your local machine?
[03:13] <dabar> To start...
[03:13] <wilornel> yes
[03:13] <diaboliq> warfaren, anything in between sort of 'breaks' the screen or has been made physically impossible
[03:13] <dabar> wilornel: which is an ubuntu machine
[03:13] <wilornel> yes
[03:13] <GinTonic> hello,can somebody give a 'invitation code' about http://chdbits.org ,thanks a lot
[03:13] <dabar> wilornel: revert changes to httpd.conf
[03:13] <warfaren> diaboliq: breaks? sounds scary.. physically breaks?
[03:13] <wilornel> there is no such file on ubuntu
[03:13] <dabar> OK, apache2.conf
[03:13] <wilornel> :)
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !list | GinTonic
[03:13] <dabar> I forget
[03:14] <dabar> wilornel: sudo a2enmod rewrite; sudo service apache2 restart
[03:14] <dabar> Do that after you revert your changes.
[03:15] <mac> hy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas
[03:15] <diaboliq> with this driver picking up what the screen is capable of it starts rejecting the in-between rez
[03:15] <diaboliq> warfaren, ^
[03:15] <warfaren> okay
[03:15] <wilornel> dabar: done
[03:16] <dabar> AllowOverride All in your vhosts file?
[03:16] <wilornel> this is not recommended
[03:16] <warfaren> diaboliq: okay so i'm gonna try the 12.04 live cd i have now and see if that gets me anywhere.. be back later...
[03:16] <diaboliq> ok
[03:16] <warfaren> but thanks for all your help
[03:16] <diaboliq> you're welcome
[03:16] <dabar> wilornel: does your web directory have ability to use .htaccess?
[03:16] <wilornel> yes
[03:16] <diaboliq> good luck warfaren
[03:16] <dabar> wilornel: OK, that's how I do that, but OK.
[03:17] <warfaren> thanks
[03:17] <mac> hy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas
[03:17] <dabar> I'll look into why it's not recommended at some pooint perhaps...
[03:17] <dabar> In .htaccess, put RewriteEngine On
[03:17] <wilornel> done
[03:18] <dabar> wilornel: I guess put a RewriteRule . inexistent-file.html [L]
[03:18] <dabar> Or something to test...
[03:18] <dabar> After RewriteEngine On
[03:19] <wilornel> with pleasure
[03:19] <dabar> I'd say if it didn't complain after adding that RewriteEngine On, you're fairly sure it worked really.
[03:19] <wilornel> well it did complain...
[03:19] <dabar> What did it say?
[03:20] <wilornel> Well if I try to access a /public/docs instead of /public/index.php/docs, it will throw a 404
[03:20] <wilornel> What is that rule you just told me about supposed to do?
[03:20] <dabar> wilornel: that's different
[03:20] <dabar> Maybe give you a 404
[03:20] <wilornel> indeed it does
[03:20] <dabar> I'm just trying to confirm mod_rewrite is now on
[03:20] <dabar> can you ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[03:21] <dabar> See whether rewrite.load is there
[03:21] <dabar> or rewrite.something, not sure
[03:21] <wilornel> rewrite.load is in there
[03:21] <dabar> OK, perf.
[03:21] <dabar> So you just want a rule that does something...
[03:21] <dabar> isn't the specific rule documented on the laravel site>
[03:22] <wilornel> Yes they give it to us
[03:22] <hungryman2> Anyone able to help me out?
[03:22] <dabar> So remove the code I gave you, put the code they want
[03:22] <dabar> See whether it is all dandy now
[03:22] <wilornel> dabar: Still giving me 404..
[03:22] <mac> hy all.. WOEID? i got too slow connection, (earth map is downloading inside that page).. for slovenia?   http://sigizmund.info/woeidinfo/?woeid=texas
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> so I'd like to ask again, what's the advantage of disabling 'Undredirect Fullscreen Windows' in the compizconfig settings manager?
[03:22] <dabar> wilornel: OK, at this point I need to know exact .htaccess content and the URL
[03:23] <dabar> wilornel: hopefully you're familiar with pastebins.
[03:23] <wilornel> http://laravel.com/docs/install#cleaner-urls first one
[03:23] <dabar> First makes total sense for what you're talking about
[03:23] <wilornel> the url is home.dev/public/docs. It would do the same as home.dev/public/index.php/docs
[03:24] <wilornel> It should* do
[03:24] <dabar> Is that actually the exact content of your .htaccess? nothing else in it?
[03:24] <wilornel> yes
[03:24] <dabar> And you access your URLs with the public dir in them>
[03:24] <dabar> Shouldn't public be your webroot?
[03:25] <wilornel> I have a /var/www/public. Im hosting other files in other folders
[03:25] <dabar> My guess public in laravel is same as in rails...
[03:25] <wilornel> must be
[03:25] <dabar> i.e. should be the webroot
[03:25] <dabar> Is it not?
[03:25] <dabar> I mean, I don't really care...
[03:25] <wilornel> It doesnt HAVE to be
[03:25] <wilornel> it can be
[03:25] <dabar> Yeah, OK, you do understand the reasoning there?
[03:26] <urlwolf> my virtualbox guest additions fail to build on 12.04
[03:26] <dabar> Like other files should not be web accessible.
[03:26] <wilornel> in the rewrite tule?
[03:26] <urlwolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703527/
[03:26] <urlwolf> is this a known problem?
[03:26] <wilornel> rule*
[03:26] <dabar> the rewrite rule I can probably help you adjust...
[03:26] <Renzatic> hey, if everyone who helped me is still in here, thanks. I got it sorted out.
[03:26] <dabar> Just trying to I guess confirm you understand you have the wrong webroot
[03:27] <wilornel> dabar: Nah it's fine I'm not allowing anyone else than me into the webroot
[03:27] <wilornel> dabar: I know how it works
[03:27] <wilornel> dabar: I have like /var/www/project2
[03:27] <wilornel> im separating my projects into different folders
[03:27] <dabar> This might be OK: http://pastebin.com/as8HxhBv
[03:27] <dabar> Try that
[03:27] <dabar> I'll probably be surprised if it does not do what you want.
[03:28] <dabar> Where is that .htaccess file again?
[03:28] <dabar> Inside public?
[03:28] <wilornel> yes
[03:28] <wilornel> that htaccess doesnt work
[03:28] <wilornel> I think the mod_rewrite module isnt loaded
[03:29] <dabar> try a2<tab><tab> on the command line
[03:29] <dabar> See what tools you have available
[03:29] <dabar> maybe there is something that lets you see what modules are enabled
[03:31] <dabar> wilornel: usually the way I test stuff like that.......
[03:31] <wilornel> a2enmod shows many options
[03:31] <dabar> wilornel: in .htaccess, if you put garbage, you get a 500
[03:31] <dabar> like 'adfsdfad'
[03:32] <dabar> code inside <IfModule …> blocks executes only if the module is actually enabled.
[03:32] <wilornel> oh! a2dismod | grep rewrite: rewrite, means rewrite is loaded
[03:32] <dabar> So putting the garbage outside, confirming that 500s, then putting it inside the <IfModule> block confirming it 500s basically means it is loaded
[03:32] <dabar> index.php is inside /public?
[03:33] <wilornel> wow this is really ***, I put asdlkjas into IfModule mod_rewrite, it still shows me a 404, not 500
[03:33] <wilornel> index.php is inside /public, yes
[03:33] <dabar> What if you put that outside of the ifmodule?
[03:33] <wilornel> oh.
[03:33] <wilornel> 404 not found
[03:34] <wilornel> alright then the htaccess is not even consulted
[03:34] <dabar> That's right
[03:34] <dabar> Appears
[03:34] <dabar> What do you have for AllowOverride?
[03:35] <dabar> I mean, let me know whether you need help with that or what
[03:35] <wilornel> It's None
[03:35] <wilornel> you said you have "All"
[03:35] <wilornel> ill try that
[03:35] <wilornel> thats in httpd.conf?
[03:35] <wilornel> apache2.conf?
[03:36] <dabar> You can do AllowOverride FileInfo
[03:36] <dabar> "it appears" http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[03:36] <mac> woeid??
[03:37] <mac> for slovenia?
[03:37] <dabar> When you change that, you need to sudo service apache2 restart
[03:37] <wilornel> I did "all" and it still doesnt work...
[03:37] <wilornel> oh.
[03:37] <wilornel> right
[03:37] <dabar> Heh
[03:37] <dabar> Noob!
[03:37] <mac> wtSmoke is woeid?
[03:37] <wilornel> D :
[03:37] <dabar> :)
[03:38] <wilornel> Woohoo! When I wrte aslkjalskdj in htaccess, I get 500
[03:38] <wilornel> also in the ifModule
[03:38] <dabar> OK, then just the rewrite rule polishing is left
[03:38] <dabar> Try what they have.
[03:38] <dabar> I doubt it will work
[03:38] <dabar> I think my version will however.
[03:39] <dabar> Good call on voicing that you think mod_rewrite is not on etc.
[03:40] <wilornel> haleluyah
[03:40] <mac> woeid for slovenia?
[03:40] <wilornel> dabar: thanks for the "good call"
[03:40] <yigal> Before the tablet version is passed alphaa/beta does anyone know if there are a set of available tweaks to make Ubuntu work reasonably well on a small, in this case 5", screen?  If so where can I go for more info?
[03:40] <wilornel> dabar: And THAANKS for the help! :)
[03:40] <dabar> Ya, that helped us get it done way sooner. OK, you're welcome.
[03:40] <dabar> Happy hacking :)
[03:40] <wilornel> so what were the steps? a2enmod rewrite
[03:40] <wilornel> wait
[03:40] <wilornel> we gotta conclude
[03:40] <dabar> oh
[03:40] <wilornel> AllowOverride FileInfo
[03:40] <wilornel> aaand?
[03:41] <dabar> sudo service apache2 restart
[03:41] <wilornel> thats all?
[03:41] <dabar> Then the appropriate .htaccess invocation
[03:41] <dabar> I believe so
[03:41] <wilornel> yes
[03:41] <wilornel> seems like it
[03:41] <wilornel> well thanks! :)
[03:41] <dabar> yw.
[03:41] <dabar> I've done that stuff a million times :) How do you like laravel?
[03:42] <dabar> I'm also a PHP programmer...
[03:42] <dabar> Haven't used that yet though...
[03:42] <dabar> I use WordPress for most projects these days.
[03:42] <wilornel> dabar: Oh so far i find Laravel's structure is too fragmented for me
[03:42] <wilornel> dabar: I've never used wordpress
[03:42] <dabar> What are you more used to?
[03:43] <wilornel> It's a cms, isn't it?
[03:43] <wilornel> dabar: I just use php.
[03:43] <dabar> Sure.
[03:43] <wilornel> I've been using php for about 2 years but didnt dive into frameworks
[03:43] <dabar> Ah, I see.
[03:43] <wilornel> dabar: How long, the php?
[03:44] <dabar> Yeah, I've been using PHP for about 6. Did a number of frameworks a bit, but basically make WordPress sites now.
[03:44] <wilornel> dabar: For clients?
[03:44] <dabar> I've been working on websites for random clients at work and in spare time for about 2 years.
[03:44] <dabar> I mostly make stuff for my employer these days.
[03:45] <dabar> Content-based websites for farming publications.
[03:45] <wilornel> dabar: I see. You code in other languages?
[03:45] <dabar> http://www.producer.com/
[03:45] <dabar> I can program in anything, I believe.
[03:45] <wilornel> from Canada aswell
[03:45] <dabar> Oh ya. I've programmed Ruby at work...
[03:45] <dabar> Obviously JavaScript
[03:46] <dabar> A little bit of Python. That's about it.
[03:46] <Morpheaus> try f# - very interesting language
[03:46] <wilornel> dabar: but yeah as soon as you get the hang of a couple of languages, it becomes easier with the others
[03:47] <dabar> Yes, but no doubt previous experience is king...
[03:47] <wilornel> Morpheaus: Pros and cons of f#?
[03:47] <dabar> Heh
[03:47] <wilornel> dabar: But why did he move us to #ubuntu ?
[03:48] <wilornel> I mean, we couldve done the a2enmod in some apache files too
[03:48] <wilornel> I guess
[03:49] <Morpheaus> wilornel, it's a functional programming language as opposed to an imperative language
[03:50] <dabar> wilornel: you're asking why thumbs sent you here?
[03:51] <wilornel> dabar: yes. It seems to me that this kind of problem should be possible to solve on any platform, not ubuntu/debian only
[03:52] <dabar> wilornel: you're not familiar with the fact that debian vastly modifies the httpd configuration and tools
[03:52] <dabar> Like, changes the way a sys admin interacts with apache vastly
[03:52] <dabar> e.g. apache is nothing. it's httpd
[03:52] <dabar> "on any sane platform"
[03:52] <dabar> That's thumbs saying that
[03:52] <wilornel> yes
[03:53] <ross> hello?
[03:53] <dabar> etc. it's just that different. He never bothered to learn what debian does with httpd/apache2
[03:53] <dabar> Cause "it's wrong"
[03:53] <dabar> Am I answering that in a way you can grasp?
[03:53] <wilornel> dabar: yeah
[03:53] <dabar> OK.
[03:54] <dabar> Like he just can't even help you, and it annoys him that debian did what they did.
[03:54] <wilornel> Why is it wrong?
[03:54] <dabar> Why diverge from the standard?
[03:54] <wilornel> I see
[03:54] <dabar> I don't know why either, but I'd guess that's the answer.
[03:54] <yigal> it's not a standard it's just redhat
[03:54] <dabar> But from debian's point of view, they likely had a reason.
[03:55] <dabar> Or perhaps what yigal says is true.
[03:55] <ros_> im having screen tearing after updating 12.10. I do have hybrid graphics. do you think thats the reason? i dont know which gpu im using
[03:55] <dabar> That debian just did what they did, then never bothered to converge with redhat.
[03:55] <yigal> they shouldn't have to converge imo
[03:55] <wilornel> mhm
[03:55] <dabar> wilornel: in other words, I don't know, I'm just guessing
[03:56] <wilornel> dabar: I know I know
[03:56] <yigal> I work in an environment that deals with both
[03:56] <yigal> just slightly different naming conventions debian -> ssh, rh -> sshd, etc
[03:56] <dabar> yigal: but you do sometimes go to #httpd and feel the love?
[03:56] <yigal> dabar: not hating here
[03:57] <dabar> I mean, thumbs is probably my #1 freenode idol, but he certainly don't take kindly to people calling httpd apache2
[03:57] <wilornel> dabar: He's very responsive. You ask him, he answers.
[03:58] <dabar> He is an IRC God :)
[03:58] <wilornel> I mean that he wont give you more than you ask
[03:58] <wilornel> I bet he is a pretty nice user
[03:58] <dabar> He knows everything
[03:58] <dabar> And he is always on
[03:58] <dabar> And he knows the IRC lore of how to answer
[03:58] <wilornel> hahah
[03:58] <dabar> ANyway, I won't write an ode to him here, but he is amazing.
[03:59] <dabar> Anyway, totally offtopic, though the channel is uncharacteristically dead....
[03:59] <ros_> can you help me guys? haha
[03:59] <wilornel> ros_ needed some help
[03:59] <wilornel> voila :P
[03:59] <ros_> yeah haha
[03:59] <wilornel> sooo you're saying the display is fragmented?
[04:00]  * dabar is not touching that with a pole of any length
[04:00] <ros_> yes
[04:00] <ros_> and this happened after the update
[04:00] <wilornel> Alright, what is your graphic's card?
[04:01] <ros_> wilorel: have have a integrated intel hd300 and a dedicated ati 6700robson muxless
[04:03] <wilornel> here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx & here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
[04:03] <wilornel> I had a problem with graphics too, you just need the software corresponding to the graphic's card and it'll configure everything
[04:04] <wilornel> I downloaded AMD catalyst controller. I have an ATI graphics card
[04:04] <wilornel> ros_
 and the intel?
[04:05] <wilornel> I gave you the link
[04:08] <ros_> wilornel: im downloading the intel first. but i thought it is somewhat available on ubuntu after install?
[04:09] <wilornel> ros_: I dont have an intel graphics card, but I dont think that ubuntu takes care of the drivers, you have to install them by yourself ( well that's what I always did )
[04:10] <ToPhEr0613> Im running an intel mobile 4 graphics card and ubuntu installed graphics drivers automatically in 12.10...just fyi
[04:11] <ros_> wilornel: the last time i tried installing catalyst for ATI, it didnt recognize my ati
[04:11] <wilornel> ros_: Well that's weird.
[04:11] <ros_> i think im just running my intel. but observing my battery consumption, i believe that ati is running, too
[04:11] <wilornel> You have an usual setup, two gaphics cards from two different companies
[04:12] <ros_> yeah, this is a laptop haha
[04:12] <wilornel> and well linux is not very good on graphics. It still has problems with nvidia
[04:12] <wilornel> Really? In a laptop? :o
[04:12] <wilornel> Do you plan on playing video games or making 3d models?
[04:13] <ros_> yes. i bought it for vidyas some time ago, but then i got bored or whatever, i just switched to linux. i wanted to use linux ever since but got scared of the cli's
[04:14] <wilornel> hahahah
[04:15] <ros_> in windows, the intel is my main gpu. and whenever i play vidyas, i would dedicate all the ati resources in that game.
[04:15] <ros_> but here, i believe i can just use intel right?
[04:16] <ros_> i have to figure out a way to shut off my ati
[04:16] <wilornel> developers usualy dont port games to linux. Linus is usualy used to develop software
[04:17] <wilornel> Well... I have no idea how to stop giving power to a graphics card...
[04:17] <wilornel> maybe a professional could assist you here tomorrow
[04:18] <ros_> yeah up to now, i  dont understand how the hell did i finished uni using windows
[04:19] <hungryman3> anyone available to help?
[04:19] <ros_> okay thanks, ill drop bu tommorow. thank you wilornel. IRC people is very kind and helpful
[04:19] <wilornel> ros_ : did what I could :) see ya
[04:19] <wilornel> hungryman3: What's up?
[04:20] <hungryman3> Having a pretty serious issue. I can't get Unity to work. Just upgraded to 13.04, and everything was all wella nd good... and then I tried to install ATI closed source drivers. broke everything. Fine, no problem, I went back to OSS Radeon graphics... and now Unity won't work at all. Reinstalled those OSS graphics, still can't get Unity to pop up. If I type in "Unity" to terminal it'll run, but without my settings saved.
[04:22] <wilornel> maybe try "man Unity"
[04:22] <wilornel> there you could make a search "/settings" or "/configurations"
[04:22] <johnjohn1011> if my brother is on 10.04LTS  and support ends in May what is the upgrade path he needs to take?
[04:23] <wilornel> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=update+ubuntu
[04:23] <hungryman3> Yeah I've tried other unity command lines but I can't get it to start up/ work properly. IDK if it's a Unity issue, or if it's a graphics issue. I suspect my graphics configuration is screwed up.
[04:23] <wilornel> actually ._. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=upgrade+ubuntu
[04:24] <wilornel> hungryman3: Im sorry I dont know the solution :(
[04:24] <hungryman3> @ johnjohn1011 , I would imagine "updata-manager -d" is all you need.
[04:24] <johnjohn1011> will i be able to put him on 12.04 without every version in between?
[04:25] <wilornel> yeah why would it have to go through every version
[04:25] <wilornel> ubuntu handles the upgrade "path" I think
[04:26] <johnjohn1011> at least he has the latest firefox on that computer.  it's really the only app he uses
[04:26] <wilornel> johjohn1011: Is it a good computer?
[04:28] <johnjohn1011> its a dual core with the am3 240 cpu and 2 gb memory
[04:29] <mouseofthesteppe> hi
[04:29] <wilornel> Well if it's too old, you might want to take a look at jolicloud. It's a distro used to browse the web
[04:29] <wilornel> hi mouse
[04:30] <mouseofthesteppe> what is the command to find if my ubuntu install is encrypted?
[04:31] <bhavesh> is it possible in any way that I can install apps in ubuntu without root access?
[04:31] <jackw> I want 13.04 so bad
[04:31] <jackw> there is a number of new features
[04:32] <johnjohn1011> jackw: less than two weeks. why not load it now.
[04:32] <yoona> really?
[04:32] <wilornel> bhavesh: sudo apt-get install
[04:32] <bhavesh> its a college lab computer where I don't have root access.. so I cannot use sudo, wilornel
[04:32] <wilornel> mouseofthesteppe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530639
[04:32] <IdleOne> bhavesh: no. ask the admins to install what you need.
[04:33] <wilornel> bhavesh: IdleOne is right
[04:33] <bhavesh> :(
[04:33] <wilornel> oh I think I know of a way
[04:33] <wilornel> you could curl or wget the files
[04:33] <bhavesh> ?
[04:33] <wilornel> usually after this you can "make"
[04:34] <bhavesh> without sudo?
[04:34] <wilornel> and somehow you can install, I cant remember the procedure
[04:34] <bhavesh> wilornel: ill try.
[04:34] <johnjohn1011> assuming that autoconf, gcc, make are all on the computer.  he could do that
[04:34] <bhavesh> LOL
[04:34] <wilornel> yes
[04:34] <bhavesh> well probably the college lab computers don't have make tools
[04:35] <wilornel> which autoconf
[04:35] <wilornel> which gcc, which make
[04:35] <wilornel> if there is an output, the commands are there
[04:35] <wilornel> well a positive output
[04:35] <johnjohn1011> then you can prefix it to a directory you have write access to and then you have to make sure your paths point to the correct lib directories.
[04:35] <bhavesh> wilornel: gcc and make are installed, autoconf isn't
[04:36] <IdleOne> seeing how this is a lab computer I doubt anything you try to install will be saved. Please don't break the rules and ask the admins.
[04:37] <wilornel> bhavesh: YOLO
[04:37] <wilornel> bhavesh: install!
[04:37] <yigal> he will also need to have the home partition with exec priviliges
[04:37] <bhavesh> IdleOne: I asked them, they rejected. In our lab, we all have our accounts on a server, which we access from both windows and ubuntu. But ubuntu is installed in both labs (the one with internet access) and windows in some.
[04:37] <yigal> if that isn't there it wouldn't matter if he made an executable, because it couldn't be used
[04:38] <johnjohn1011> could he not put the programs on a usb drive and run off of that?
[04:38] <bhavesh> is installed in all* labs , IdleOne
[04:38] <bhavesh> johnjohn1011: I can?
[04:38] <IdleOne> bhavesh: in that case, you can't. Please stop asking.
[04:38] <kriskropd> i'm trying to get audio to work on my ubuntu netinstall of 12.10 http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU - it worked with a normal livecd using pulseaudio and alsa and kernel version 17, but on the netinstall with version 27 kernel it doesn't work :/
[04:38] <wilornel> im out
[04:38] <wilornel> good night all
[04:38] <bhavesh> good night
[04:39] <IdleOne> johnjohn1011: the machines are probably not set to boot from USB anyway.
[04:40] <johnjohn1011> i'm not familiar with how they lock down lab machines.
[04:40] <bhavesh> IdleOne: I booted Ubuntu 12.10 from USB last time. :)
[04:41] <IdleOne> !USB | bhavesh see the persistent link
[04:41] <IdleOne> that is about as far as I will help you to circumvent your schools restrictions.
[04:41] <bhavesh> IdleOne: lol, ty.
[04:41] <Kim2Sung> how do i block obama from refreshing my amabasady website
[04:42] <johnjohn1011> bhavesh, it must be rough not to have your own computer.
[04:43] <IdleOne> johnjohn1011: keep it support related only in here please. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:44] <kriskropd> doeas anybody know why ICH5 A1981B audio device might not work in ubuntu 12.10 netinstall when it works in 12.10 livecd?
[04:45] <jackw> Ubuntu should package Steam by default
[04:45] <jackw> Steam is awesome
[04:46] <moyam01> i am having trouble with 12.04. i tried to put in a custom .xinintrc but the commands are not initialing
[04:46] <kriskropd> steam just came out of beta a few weeks ago - I wouldn'tbe surprised if it did get included in 13.04 or something
[04:46] <johnjohn1011> is steam officially supported by ubuntu?
[04:46] <Zack> absolutely
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> kriskropd: did you check basic stuff like is the  source good, is it muted, does the hardware work etc?
[04:46] <kriskropd> johnjohn1011: no, but steam is specifically targetting ubuntu - canonical would be nuts not to take advantage of it
[04:47] <kriskropd> aeon-ltd: yes i did - check pastebin above ....  http://pastebin.com/p1v0QtBU
[04:48] <aeon-ltd> kriskropd: is it the only output in alsamixer?
[04:48] <kriskropd> the livedisk has kernel 3.5.7 version 17 and my netinstall has 3.5.7 version 27. I have to manually run the pulseaudio start and log command, but it should work
[04:49] <kriskropd> aeon-ltd: every output is unmuted and maximized - the real problem though is everything treats it as a dummy device like pulseaudio isn't running at all
[04:50] <kriskropd> i can access alsamixer only as root or a user in group 'audio'
[04:50] <kriskropd> neither of which is ideal or convenient even
[04:51] <kriskropd> the only reason i have to start /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --target-log=syslog myself is because i log in using sulogin and run startx to a dwm environment
[04:52] <kriskropd> lightdm seems to cause a memory leak for some reason
[04:54] <kriskropd> the actual error I get when trying to run alsamixer as non-root or non'audio' grouped user is 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[04:56] <mladoux> kriskropd, sudo useradd -G audio username
[04:56] <mladoux> logout, log back in
[04:56] <mladoux> then try it.
[04:57] <kriskropd> mladoux: the problem with that solution is users in audio group work differently now when pulseaudio is introduced
[04:57] <kriskropd> mladoux: I have tried it and while it does grant mea ccess to alsamixer, no applications will produce audio still
[04:57] <kriskropd> me access*
[04:59] <mladoux> kriskropd, sudo useradd -G pulseaudio username
[04:59] <mladoux> try that
[04:59] <mladoux> I think they add another group.
[04:59] <kriskropd> iirc its for the pulse service user, but i haven't tried it yet so i will
[04:59] <kriskropd> no such group on my machine :/
[04:59] <mladoux> it's worth a shot anyway, worst case scenario, you're right where you left off.
[05:00] <mladoux> it might just be pulse
[05:00] <kriskropd> i have to wonder if pulse audio is setup properly at all on here
[05:00] <mladoux> kriskropd, that I can not say.
[05:00] <kriskropd> it was pulse, rebooting
[05:00] <mladoux> you shouldn't need to reboot.
[05:00] <kriskropd> too late :P
[05:00] <mladoux> log out and log in should fix it.
[05:00] <mladoux> oh well
[05:00] <mladoux> same result
[05:00] <mladoux> it'll either work, or it won't
[05:01] <mladoux> I'm not an audio guru, but this sounds like a permissions issue, so it was worth a shot.
[05:01] <kriskropd> assuming the livecd ubuntu user didnt need either audio or pulse groups to work would suggest to me that this won't work
[05:01] <mindbender1> how can I add a user that looks like that of the postgres user i.e doesn't appear on the login screen?
[05:01] <mladoux> kriskropd, I have no idea.
[05:01] <mladoux> anyway, it's better than nothing.
[05:02] <kriskropd> mladoux: yeah, didn't work, ty for idea though
[05:02] <johnjohn1011> i just received an excel file that libre office will not open.
[05:02] <mladoux> I've never had your issue, so I'm not sure what else to try.
[05:02] <mladoux> kriskropd, no worries.
[05:04] <johnjohn1011> is there anyway to know if libreoffice 4.0 will open it without having to install it?
[05:05] <kriskropd> johnjohn1011: not being a microsoft office specialist or anything, I would expect the file format is one of those special proprietary formats that microsoft likes and most user's don't - see if you can find an online converter from whatever format that file is to .xls
[05:05] <johnjohn1011> i wonder if it's password protected
[05:05] <kriskropd> .xls is still microsoft format, but it is older and more supported and should load just fine in libreoffice
[05:05] <johnjohn1011> its .xlsx   i guess i need to investigate.
[05:06] <kriskropd> i would try converting it first, some converters ahve webapps that process the conversion on server and just give you a download while im sure there might be actual converters you can download or compile
[05:06] <kriskropd> have*
[05:07] <kriskropd> johnjohn1011: I just foudn this in ubuntu repos 'sudo apt-get install libfreexl1'
[05:08] <kriskropd> found* that might let you load xlsx files into libreoffice
[05:09] <johnjohn1011> thanks trying that now
[05:11] <johnjohn1011> didnt work
[05:12] <kriskropd> johnjohn1011: then my last suggestion is to try a converter, otherwise I'd assume the file is corrupt or something
[05:13] <kriskropd> for anyone following my issue: despite have pulse audio running, pavucontrol throws "Fatal Error: Unable to conenct to PulseAudio: OK" also noted that vlc threw this message "[0x245a568] inhibit interface error: Failed to connect to the D-Bus session daemon: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-9woAn4NvXU: Connection refused"
[05:14] <mouseofthesteppe> heya ubuntu lovers, does the fstab file in the etc directory under file system always reliably show whether a home directory on that hard drive is encrypted or not?
[05:14] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: I don't think so
[05:14] <n1x> is there any difference between /etc/crontab and the "sudo su root; crontab -e" ?
[05:14] <mouseofthesteppe> kriskropd: what's a better way of knowing?
[05:16] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: I'm not sure, mine certainly doesn't suggest the home directory is encrypted (single partition install) - I suppose the easiest way is to try access the machine without the correct user and being greeted with an empty home directory
[05:17] <Guest4885> hello
[05:18] <mouseofthesteppe> kriskropd: do you mean as guest, recovery mode or i create another user inside ubuntu?
[05:18] <johnjohn1011> krskropd: it's password protected
[05:18] <kriskropd> n1x: I just tried it on one of my machines - crontab -e as root is not equivalent to /etc/crontab
[05:18] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: any, the encrypted home directory is unecnrypted by ecrypt everytime you log in
[05:19] <kriskropd> unencrypted*
[05:19] <kriskropd> johnjohn1011: I don't know anything about cracking .xlsx files, sorry I couldn't help more
[05:20] <johnjohn1011> ran the excel viewer in wine and it said it's encrypted
[05:20] <mouseofthesteppe> kriskropd: you mean unencrypted only when i log in as the user i created when i encrypted the home folder?
[05:21] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: thats right; on the disk all the data is stored per user in encrypted formats - or at least thats how it was a few years ago when I last messed around with ubuntu and ecrypt
[05:22] <bushwaker> Hello everyone
[05:22] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: you can see for yourself if you load a livecd and mount your home partition and look inside for yourself
[05:23] <kriskropd> can anyone help me find a guide for installing pulseaudio on ubuntu 12.10 or any linux distro for that matter?
[05:24] <Guest4885> hello, i have a first question: i use ubuntu studio and my repositiy shows debianservers and so i cant do any softwareupdates....i am right here in the chat for help or need another?
[05:25] <kriskropd> Guest4885: whats the actual error? pastebin.com it if it is too long
[05:25] <mouseofthesteppe> kriskropd: could i just record my encryption passphrase at command line? wouldn't that prove if it's encrypted?
[05:25] <kriskropd> mouseofthesteppe: I'm not sure - tbh I had a hell of a time trying to crack my own ecryptfs after a hard disk ailure so i decided to avoid ecrypt since then
[05:26] <kriskropd> failure*
[05:26] <redengin> should efibootmgr commit its changes or do I need to do something else to change boot order?
[05:26] <mouseofthesteppe> kriskropd: yeah i can sense the feeling you had- i set up a bunch of security steps, read around and realised the chances of my hard drive failing were greater than hard drive inspection
[05:27] <Guest4885> there is no error, i cant install new software and no updates, my system is the first install version from october2012 and i cant change anything
[05:28] <Tarlok> I hear you there,  my linux drive failed today or some part of it and I just reinstalled
[05:28] <kriskropd> Guest4885: what happens when you run 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal session? does it spit out errors about something?
[05:29] <Tarlok> on the subject of super security has anyone here played with hardened gentoo or gentoo in general?
[05:29] <Guest4885> kriskropd: no, runs without problems and no errors
[05:30] <kriskropd> Guest4885: then try 'sudo apt-get upgrade' - this updates your system's packages after you run the previous command
[05:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> hallo. how do I set a quit message for irc?
[05:30] <ejv> Tarlok: #gentoo
[05:30] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: type /quit or
[05:31] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: it could also be /exit
[05:31] <Guest4885> kriskkropd: i tried anything like this, one error if i want install filezilla: W:GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org sid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY AED4B06F473041FA, W:Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
[05:31] <Guest4885> , W:Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.236.52 80]
[05:31] <Guest4885> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:31] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: or if you just want to leave this specific room /leave
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> Guest4885, You can make repo list here, however I'm assuming the ubuntu studios is basically the regualr ubuntu lists.  http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[05:31] <Tarlok> ty
[05:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: no, that is not what I mean. when someone leaves a channel there is sometimes a custom quit message displayed.
[05:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> how do you set that?
[05:33] <ejv> ntzrmtthihu777: refer to the documentation for your irc client.
[05:33] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: idk abotu doing that automatically (should be irc client dependent), but you can leave a message each time like '/quit I have to go'
[05:33] <kriskropd> about*
[05:34] <Guest4885> wilee-nilee: thats my problem, every change i do in the reposityfiles are the old if i try install something^
[05:34] <kriskropd> Guest4885: the 404 error suggests the source locations in your /etc/apt/sources lead to non-existant locations
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> Guest4885, I suspect you are not understanding the whole picture, but hey its your computer. ;)
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> ejv: think I got it, can you tell me if it works when I /part /join again?
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest4885, Are you running a end of life?
[05:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> I would suggest all ignore the command suggested, if it does work
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> besides debian sid has got to be wrong
[05:38] <lolcat> THe ubuntu-server iso cant install to raid?
[05:38] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: i can try it, watch for it
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> there is a debian mint I believe, this sound fishy, lol. ;)
[05:38] <kriskropd> did it work?
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: did it work?
[05:39] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: oh, you left when i left XD that was a mission fail
[05:39] <moon`> if I want to edit a file on a program I installed like dosbox where do I find where it was installed to?
[05:39] <moon`> Used software center to install it :P
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: XD wanna try again?
[05:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> moon`: are you using unity?
[05:39] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: ill stay here, hurry back so we don't stay offtopib too much longer
[05:40] <kriskropd> topic*
[05:40] <moon`> ntzrmtthihu777: yes
[05:40] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: no, didnt work
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> moon`: search your dash for it.
[05:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn.
[05:41] <moon`> I need to know where it's installed because I need to edit a configuration file
[05:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: ah, i think I know what it was.
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> moon`: locate dosbox will get you all the dosbox stufss
[05:42] <johnjohn1011> does any here have any experience building a .deb package from source?
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: one more time.
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> johnjohn1011: yep, checkinstall will be what you need
[05:42] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: kay
[05:42] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: yes that worked
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> :D
[05:42] <moon`> ntzrmtthihu777: perfect, thank you
[05:42] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777:  did you use /leave?
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> kriskropd: no, /part
[05:43] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: came out with double sets of double quotes
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> I used /set part_message "FOO" to do it.
[05:43] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: ""For a good....
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, maybe I did not need to include the quotes myself.
[05:43] <kriskropd> ntzrmtthihu777: ah
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> fixed.
[05:44]  * kriskropd coughs
[05:44] <kriskropd> ANYWAYS
[05:44] <kriskropd> back on topic :)
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah.
[05:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> johnjohn1011: sudo apt-get install checkinstall, then running checkinstall -D make install will build a deb package from source code, assuming you have a working make file.
[05:45] <johnjohn1011> i'm going to test it out over the weekend.
[05:45] <TPiazza> i have documented a bunch of steps needed to install a set of software we need on a new install of ubuntu 12.10 desktop, some of these steps are interactive, what's the best way to automate this; a .deb, a PPA or something else?
[05:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, sudo checkinstall etc
[05:46] <johnjohn1011> i needed the newer version of curl which was impossible to do with pkg mgmt via raring repos, so i compiled it locally
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: I find ppa is always the best way to go, so you can get updates as they come. and if you feel you must compile something from source use checkinstall to make it undoable.
[05:47] <johnjohn1011> well i have to roll it out to a few computers
[05:47] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: can one PPA reference another one?
[05:48] <x0auser> hi guys is there anyone here ?
[05:49] <johnjohn1011> raring repos have too much to upgrade but it compiled and works well with base 12.04 version
[05:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: hmm, not that I am aware of atm, but one package can reference another.
[05:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: oh, you mean a ppa to install everything from the get-go?
[05:50] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: for example, one step is to install oracle java via this command: add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[05:51] <x0auser> when a window is opened in ubuntu 12.04 , her location is in the top of the left corner ! how can i change it ?
[05:51] <johnjohn1011> can i make a repo somewhere out on the net with packages I create?
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> johnjohn1011: yup, I have one myself. launchpad.
[05:52] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: followed by - apt-get update and apt-get install oracle-java6-installer
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: Yeah, I use that one too. if you are looking to do this on a new machine you could easily write a bash script to do it for you.
[05:54] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: i tried that but not sure about forcing interactive mode for bash script, any thoughts on that?
[05:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: interactive is easy, my best work is an interactive bash script in my ppa
[05:55] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: anything you can share as an example?
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> sure, here:
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> #!/bin/bash
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> list_ust(){
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777>   echo	"The current directory contains the following .ust"
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777>   ls	*.ust | cut -d\. -f1
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> }
[05:56] <FloodBot1> ntzrmtthihu777: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> #Creates a sedscript to convert kana to romaji, cv
[05:57] <omg_sorry> my bad all, I forgot part of the command XD
[05:57] <lolcat> Is it impossible to instal ubuntu 12.10 to a raid?
[05:57] <johnjohn1011> when you create a package,  does all it do is the "make install"?
[05:58] <omg_sorry> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703772/
[05:58] <omg_sorry> TPiazza: for you ^
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> !raid
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, ^^^^
[05:59] <dimi1982> i tried to install ubuntu on my medion pc but the screen freezes at when i get to the langue screen i checked the md5sum it is fine can anyone help me what the problem might be
[05:59] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks!!!
[06:00] <Frost__> have you tried updating?
[06:00] <Frost__> @dimi
[06:00] <Frost__> @dimi: have you tried updating?
[06:00] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: What is fakeraid? Why on earth would I want that? I just want mdadm
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, I have never run raid, thought you might like some info from dah bot. ;)
[06:01] <lolcat> q
[06:02] <lolcat> wilee-nilee: It tells me to use alternate install
[06:02] <lolcat> Some genious removed it...
[06:02] <dimi1982> you mean update my bios?
[06:02] <Frost__> @dimi: which version are you trying to install?
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> lolcat, You might look at the mini, a net install, it is the minmal now.
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> minimal*
[06:05] <dimi1982> 12.10
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: no prob, I hope it helps
[06:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, huge apology folks, I forgot to pipe that into pastebinit ^^'
[06:07] <Frost__> @dimi: Tried 12.04?
[06:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> can I wildcard ignore the floodbots? i don't flood usually, I just screwed up that time XD.
[06:08] <AbellA123> I have a question about 32 bit Ubuntu on a 64 bit laptop, is it a good idea to do it?
[06:09] <TPiazza> i'll take some of ntzrmtthihu777's lashes since the paste was for me.....;-)
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> AbellA123: you may as well go for 64 bit if its capable.
[06:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: nah its cool. it was actually not a paste, but a cat into the channel.
[06:10] <AbellA123> I have 10.4 lts on the laptop and it doesn't want to upgrade to 12.04
[06:10] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: i see, still a bit new to irc, kinda dig it
[06:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> AbellA123: in-install upgrades are... tricky at best. full wipe and restart is best.
[06:11] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: kinda like back in the day with dial-up bulletin boards
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: yeah, I meant to execute cat /usr/bin/luct | pastebinit, but forgot the | pastebinit
[06:12] <AbellA123> ok another question, is it better to have a wired internet connection or wifi connection to dl the 12.04 64 bit OS
[06:12] <Frost___> a
[06:12] <carrera> Hi everyone!  :)
[06:13] <ntzrmtthihu777> TPiazza: one suggestion I would make is to install apt-fast first and use it to install everything else after.
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, I have the join and leave off I never see them.
[06:13] <carrera> when will 13.04 be released?  I looked on ubuntu.com but couldn't find anything on it.
[06:13] <dimi1982> will try it now thanks
[06:13] <Frost___> April 25th
[06:13] <carrera> Frost___, thanks!
[06:13] <TPiazza> ntzrmtthihu777: sweet, didnt know about that
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777,Doh, I miss read you post I meant for net splits.
[06:14] <Frost___> I am using mIRC
[06:14] <Frost___> tell me how to register
[06:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I did not know about it till recently, you will need to enable the ppa, webupd8 has an article
[06:15] <Frost___> and, i am unable to connect to any irc
[06:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Frost___: easy. /q nickserv help register will explain.
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> Frost___, You can look on gthe web or ask in #freenode
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> the*
[06:16] <carrera> I have 2 SSDs on my laptop. Can I only RAID with the Ubuntu Server?
[06:21] <vlt> You can build a raid with any kind of block device as members: disks, partitions, lvm volumes ...
[06:21] <vlt> (too late)
[06:23] <provision_> cho
[06:24] <Frost__> Any GPU Driver developers?
[06:24] <Frost__> here
[06:25] <bazhang> Frost__, This is Ubuntu support try alis
[06:25] <bazhang> !alis | Frost__
[06:28] <dimi1982> i tried to install 12.4 but same problem it freezes up on me
[06:29] <Frost__> @dimi: update your bios
[06:34] <deffrag> Hello! I'm getting error while usual updates and upgrade - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ - can anyone help me understand the problem?
[06:37] <deffrag> Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/
[06:39] <adym3333> hi
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> deffrag, Can you describe your /etc/grub.d/40_custom. modifications.
[06:40] <adym3333> how can i disable USB port 2 i am using ubuntu 10.04
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> deffrag, Or just how you modified grub overall.
[06:42] <deffrag> wilee-nilee: Hi. I only modified /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> deffrag, I have not had to use that custom boot, I was wondering in general, and I'm not sure of the syntax. If you get no answer here make a thread at the ubuntu forums there are some daily helpers on grub that are up on this. ;)
[06:45] <deffrag> wilee-nilee: Sure, I'll try that. I never got such errors around grub before and I'm not able to understand the problem ;)
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> deffrag, I know that with some OS's they have to be mounted like centos and fedora did at times as well.
[06:50] <adym3333> helllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[06:50] <adym3333> how can i disable USB port 2 i am using ubuntu 10.04
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> adym3333, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1850312
[06:57] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <jnhghy> Hi, I have an Ubuntu Natty-11.04 that I want to upgrade to ubuntu 12.04 so I did "sudo apt-get update" fallowed by "sudo apt-get upgrade" and then "sudo do-release-upgrade" but at the last command I got: "No new release found", any idea how I can do this upgrade?
[06:59] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | jnhghy
[07:01] <jnhghy> bazhang: ty
[07:07] <Lartza> How bad idea is it to make install ruby? :)
[07:07] <Lartza> root
[07:09] <DaNish> hi every one
[07:20] <Araneidae> I'm looking to install lib32stdc++5 ... but I can't find it!
[07:22] <Araneidae> There's a libstdc++5 package, but alas it only installs the 64 bit libraries ... where's the 32-bit version gone?
[07:24] <Lartza> Araneidae, It serves both http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/libstdc++5
[07:24] <Lartza> but lib32 where...
[07:25] <saruji> Hello, I've been having problems with my /boot being foolish I followed some instructions online without thinking about why I ran "sudo apt-get autoremove"...what have I done and how can I reverse it?
[07:25] <Lartza> Araneidae, lib32stdc++6 there doesn't seem to be a 5 version
[07:25] <Araneidae> Well, that's odd: `dpkg -L libstdc++5` gives me: http://sprunge.us/OeBh -- no lib32 there
[07:26] <saruji> anyone?
[07:26] <Lartza> Araneidae, Yeah since there only seems to be i386 or amd64 libstdc++5
[07:26] <Lartza> No lib32 for amd64
[07:26] <Lartza> there is lib32stdc++6 and lib64stdc++6 only
[07:27] <Lartza> sardonyx, What is the problem there?
[07:27] <Araneidae> Well, :i386 would do the trick ... wonder why I can't install that
[07:28] <Araneidae> Am I on quantal?  Bit hazy about these silly names, think I am
[07:28] <root____7> hello :)
[07:28] <Lartza> Araneidae, You could be on raring too, but it's the same really
[07:28] <Lartza> On this situation
[07:28] <Araneidae> No, I'm quantal, that's what's in my sources.list
[07:28] <Lartza> Araneidae, I doubt you can have both installed without modifying one, sicne they both symlink and have docs
[07:29] <root____7> Excuse me, I am kind of new here.. Who must I ask for a big Ubuntu problem? :/
[07:29] <Lartza> Araneidae, You would need to make lib32stdc++5 package yourself
[07:29] <Lartza> root____7, Just ask
[07:29] <Araneidae> Well, I don't need the 64-bit libstdc++5, but there doesn't seem to be an libstdc++5:i386 ...
[07:29] <Lartza> saruji, I meant you :) What is the problem there?
[07:29] <Lartza> Araneidae, Since you can't fetch it from a amd64 system I am assuming
[07:30] <Lartza> Araneidae, But it does exist, http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/universe/g/gcc-3.3/libstdc++5_3.3.6-25ubuntu1_i386.deb
[07:30] <root____7> Well, I have just installed Ubuntu 12.10 and everything is just fine except that when I work for about 30-40 minutes, the mouse, screen, and the whole Ubuntu in general is starting to freeze and the mouse (for example) is moving with like 2 fps
[07:31] <Araneidae> Lartza ... I'm confused!  I just ran `apt-get install libstdc++5:i386` and it's installed something!  But `dpkg -L libstdc++5:i836` says not found
[07:31] <Lartza> Araneidae, :D
[07:31] <Lartza> I am probably more confused thatn you
[07:31] <Lartza> *than
[07:31] <Lartza> root____7, Graphics drivers?
[07:31] <Lartza> root____7, What have you done after install? :)
[07:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> root____7: are you logged in as root?
[07:32] <root____7> Well, I have downloaded a Linux driver from Nvidia website with ".run" format, but when I double-click on it it just stops responding.. anyway, I have installed some basic stuff like xrdp
[07:32] <saruji> Larsi, my problem was that /boot only had 27meg left and I kept getting error messages about not having enough space to update, so I ran sudo apt-get autoclean and * clean
[07:33] <Lartza> root____7, Nonono...
[07:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> root____7: what Lartza said.
[07:33] <Lartza> root____7, You crashed your car the moment you got that Nvidia driver
[07:33] <Lartza> :)
[07:33] <root____7> Lartza, the problem appeared before I downloaded it.
[07:33] <Lartza> saruji, How big is your boot? You made the partition yourself?
[07:34] <Lartza> root____7, Also, what ntzrmtthihu777 said why are you as root?
[07:34] <Lartza> root____7, Are you on desktop now as root?
[07:34] <jaz> somby here
[07:34] <saruji> Larsi, I was able to update my system after clearing out my trash bin but doing a df -h I see that /boot still has only about 27 megs left.  Looking in that directory I see a bunch of vmlinuz.generic and initrd.img files
[07:34] <root____7> I think so, I am working as an Administrator account.
[07:34] <Guest70381> cuze me
[07:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: install ubuntu-tweak, it will clean up all your extra kernal images and such
[07:35] <saruji> Lartza, I went through the ubuntu 12.10 install using the guided method and ext 4
[07:35] <Guest70381> is there any  engineer here
[07:35] <Guest70381> ?????????????
[07:35] <Lartza> root____7, Are you on desktop or tty now?
[07:35] <Lartza> Guest70381, Ask don't ask to ask...
[07:35] <saruji> ntzrmtthihu777, can i remove kernel images from /boot that are old?  Why are all the old ones kept or rather left there?
[07:35] <root____7> I am on a desktop, Lartza :)
[07:36] <Lartza> root____7, Okay, did you use "root" to login to the desktop?
[07:36] <saruji> Lartza, also my /boot is 229 meg
[07:36] <Lartza> saruji, That should be plenty then, use ubuntu-tweak then like someone suggested(I haven't used) or check grub what kernel it is using and be sure not to remove that one
[07:36] <Lartza> If manually removing
[07:37] <root____7> @Lartza - no, I am logging with account name I have created myself, but at the description of this account says "Administrator".
[07:37] <Lartza> Yeah that's fine...
[07:37] <saruji> Lartza, how can i check what kernel grub is using?
[07:37] <Lartza> root____7, But why is your irc client root?
[07:37] <Lartza> saruji, Umm...
[07:37] <Lartza> :D
[07:37] <saruji> Lartza, googling
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> its the user name
[07:38] <root____7> Don't know :D Maybe because I decided to use a terminal IRC client, and I logged in the terminal as SU, so I can install it and then forgot to log out the SU.
[07:38] <auronandace> root____7: open a terminal, what do you see if you type in: id
[07:39] <Lartza> root____7, Yeah generally don't run IRC as root... but that resolved now umm
[07:39] <saruji> Lartza, how can I automate the process of removing old kernels automatically?  Seems like something is not working, I dont think it was intended to work this way.
[07:39] <root____7> uid=1000(miki) gid=1000(miki) groups=1000(miki),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[07:39] <Lartza> saruji, Don't know :( They should be removed automatically
[07:39] <Lartza> root____7, Did you run the Nvidia package as root?
[07:39] <auronandace> root____7: good, you are your user, thanks
[07:39] <saruji> Lartza, is there a way to see a boot log to check the errors?
[07:40] <wilee-nilee> the irc client will show the user name as user in the who is
[07:40] <Lartza> wilee-nilee, We know, but didn't know WHY it was showing root
[07:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: not a clue about the why, but yeah, ubuntu-tweak will clean them all
[07:40] <saruji> ntzrmtthihu777, ok thanks
[07:41] <Araneidae> Where am I going to find a 64-bit libSDL-1.2.so.0?
[07:41] <Lartza> saruji, /var/log/boot.log and dmesg at least :/
[07:41] <saruji> ntzrmtthihu777, anyway that I could take a look at the startup logs? or any other logs to view?
[07:41] <Lartza> dmesg won't probably be much help
[07:41] <Lartza> saruji, Why do you want to see these logs?
[07:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: likely, but I don't know how. I'm not that much of a wizard
[07:41] <Lartza> saruji, I doublt kernels are wiped at boot
[07:41] <root____7> Lartza, I don't think so. I tried to run it on the GUI by double-click. Then a GEDIT window appeared and stayed blank for like 5 minutes. When I tried to close it it said "Not Responding", so I don't think I have installed any package at all.
[07:41] <Lartza> root____7, That is GOOD!
[07:41] <Lartza> :)
[07:41] <Lartza> now
[07:42] <Lartza> root____7, Have you installed or tried to install anything else without apt-get?
[07:42] <Araneidae> Bah.  It's on my system, the stupid program is looking in the wrong place :(
[07:42] <Lartza> root____7, apt-get install xrdp right? right?? :D
[07:43] <saruji> Lartza, because i thought maybe something was breaking at boot...i'm guessing I guess thats why, i want my system to not have problems so I'm just trying to learn and avoid mistakes
[07:43] <root____7> Yes, but only user stuff like Skype and Chromium, and again it was on the GUI. Anything I installed from terminal was "apt-get install"
[07:43] <root____7> yes, including XRDP :D
[07:44] <Lartza> root____7, chromium-browser is actually in repos, skype is not, but it's not bad if you don't install stuff as root
[07:44] <Lartza> root____7, So the freezing, have you tried refreshing the system otherwise than rebooting?
[07:44] <Lartza> Killing X for example
[07:44] <Lartza> And does the problem persist
[07:44] <Lartza> Are your tty's also lagging then
[07:44] <Lartza> ?
[07:45] <saruji> Lartza, still trying to figure out which kernel my grub is using?  Any command shortcut you know of?
[07:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> uname should, no?
[07:45] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, Not if he has multiple kernels of the same version
[07:45] <root____7> I didn't have the chance, Lartza :( Even if I live long enough to reach anything with the mouse cursor, the click is not recognized. Even if I click non-stop, or make a long press on the mouse button, nothing happens.. The same problem with the keyboard..
[07:45] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, Doesn't show the name of the actual image being loaded
[07:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: see, not that much of a wizard. :P
[07:46] <saruji> ntzrmtthihu777, lol its ok, I ran uname and got "linux"
[07:46] <Lartza> root____7, ctrl+alt+f1 to change to a tty
[07:46] <Lartza> saruji, uname -a ;)
[07:46] <root____7> should I do it now? or?
[07:47] <saruji> Lartza, sweet thanks
[07:47] <Lartza> root____7, No, when it starts lagging :)
[07:47] <root____7> Ahh, right :)
[07:47] <Lartza> saruji, also like I said earlier /boot/grub/grub.cfg is a config for the menu
[07:47] <Lartza> generated so edits will be lost, but you can check it
[07:47] <Lartza> root____7, Now I assume you have upgraded all packages in your system no?
[07:48] <root____7> I think so.
[07:48] <Lartza> root____7, And preferably rebooted after that
[07:48] <root____7> yes
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ah, gotta remember the -a.
[07:48] <Lartza> root____7, If you want 3D accelerated Nvidia drivers, you don't get the Nvidia run file :)
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: you may find inxi of use, its a nifty sysinfo script that gets ya some good info. example:
[07:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 240e (-MCP-) clocked at 2800.000 Mhz Kernel~3.2.0-40-generic x86_64 Up~2 days Mem~2044.7/3447.2MB HDD~500.1GB(20.6% used) Procs~212 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.7.33
[07:48] <Lartza> root____7, See these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=show&redirect=RestrictedDrivers%2FNVIDIA
[07:49] <root____7> And the graphic drivers should fix the issue?
[07:49] <Lartza> root____7, Well... the nouveau driver should work(which is now being used) so no promises :)
[07:49] <Wulfie> .
[07:50] <Lartza> root____7, Why were you getting the run in the first place? Windows habits? ;)
[07:50] <sunuslee> hi, when i use dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -us -uc, can i just build the .deb of that package and omit the dependencise's .deb file?
[07:50] <saruji> ok well just used tweak and removed all of my "old kernels"....it was 700+megs, hope i did not break nothing
[07:50] <saruji> really worried right now
[07:50] <Lartza> root____7, I mean, you were on desktop, resolution was fine, drivers were obviously fine
[07:50] <root____7> Kinda :D Just decided to move from Windows to Linux.
[07:51] <root____7> Yes, everything looks great
[07:51] <root____7> no wrinkles, no shattering, no blurs
[07:51] <Lartza> root____7, Yeah nouveau works but has no 3D acceleration and some other bells and whistles
[07:51] <sunuslee> hi, when i use dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot -us -uc, can i just build the .deb of that package and omit the dependencise's .deb file?
[07:51] <Lartza> root____7, Try the restricted drivers, then you can play games :)
[07:52] <Lartza> and it could fix the freezing, who knows :)
[07:52] <zvacet> saruji: why didn´t you remove them from synaptic?  ;)
[07:52] <root____7> Right, a thousand thanks for your time, Lartza :))) Is there a way I can contact you again another time?
[07:53] <ntzrmtthihu777> saruji: nah, you're cool
[07:53] <Lartza> root____7, I am idling on IRC 24/7 but not sure how often I am actually here ;)
[07:53] <Lartza> root____7, So, in IRC
[07:53] <Lartza> :P
[07:53] <caem> a6ruryil
[07:53] <root____7> Okay :) Have a nice day, mate, thank you once again :)
[07:53] <caem> hay
[07:54] <Lartza> root____7, You too, hope there's no freezing :/
[07:54] <caem> iyfrdejjukd
[07:54] <Lartza> root____7, That would most likely make your day less nice :)
[07:54] <Lartza> caem, Sorry?
[07:54] <root____7> ahaha yea :D
[07:55] <root____7> Ah, crap, could you paste me again the link? I lost it from the screen :///
[07:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> root____7: use the page up button, methinks.
[07:56] <arkie> Hey guys, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm having some trouble installing my printer driver. I'm trying to follow the steps here but they don't seem to work for me. http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn3.html
[07:56] <deffrag> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/ . Can anyone help me understand the problem?
[07:56] <root____7> Guess I have to study a little about Linux, eh? :D Thanks
[07:56] <Lartza> root____7, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia also google "Restricted drivers ubuntu" etc and you will get there :)
[07:56] <arkie> I have a Brother HL-2270DW which is a wifi printer on my LAN
[07:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: checkinstall -D make install should build you the deb you need
[07:56] <Lartza> root____7, You will get there, I've used Linux for years now so :)
[07:57] <Lartza> deffrag, Have you edited /etc/default/grub?
[07:57] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  sorry ? what u mean?
[07:58] <arkie> Anyone know why this command isn't working?
[07:58] <arkie> anthony@anthony-UL30VT:~$ dpkg -i --force-all hl2270dwlpr-2.1.0-1.i386.deb
[07:58] <arkie> dpkg: error: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[07:58] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  i mean, i make a foo.deb, but it gives me foo.deb and bar.deb, while bar.deb is a dependcecy of a
[07:58] <Lartza> deffrag, This is kind of out my knowledge, it is probably not /etc/default/grub
[07:59] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  but i only want foo.deb and i will make a bar.deb myself
[07:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: do they both have make files?
[07:59] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  what?
[07:59] <arkie> No one?
[07:59] <Lartza> deffrag, Wait patiently and someone will notice and know hopefully :)
[07:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> arkie: gotta run dpkg -i with sudo
[07:59] <arkie> Thanks ntzrmtthihu777
[07:59] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  i only apt-get source foo
[08:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: out of curiousity, why not apt-get install foo?
[08:00] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  i want to modify some code :)
[08:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: ahh, the glory of foss/gnu :D
[08:01] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  and it might also modify the code of dependcecy , so i just want the .deb of that package, no more
[08:01] <arkie> It still doesn't work ntzrmtthihu777 , but now it says that there is no such file/directory.
[08:01] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  yeah:)
[08:01] <arkie> Do I need to cd to the directory where the .deb is?
[08:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> arkie: are you serious? yes, of course you do.
[08:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> no matter how hard you try you're not gonna eat a sandwitch in another room from you
[08:02] <Lartza> Anyone know ruby? I am trying to run something on it but it suggests to sudo make install 1.9.3 which is not really what should be done :)
[08:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: yeah, I use ruby :D
[08:03] <sunuslee> Lartza:  try rvm:)
[08:03] <Lartza> Problem is the software's init script is probably not aware of the environment I create... mhh
[08:03] <deffrag> Lartza: No, I didn't edit /etc/default/grub. I only remember adding to that 40_custom.save file.
[08:03] <deffrag> Okay.
[08:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: honestly I only build debs for things I cant apt-get install, like sfml 2.0 or higan and such.
[08:03] <Lartza> deffrag, pastebin 40_custom.save
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> or ruby2.0
[08:04] <deffrag> I did that in my question itself :) Lartza
[08:04] <Lartza> deffrag, Yeah noticed, sorry
[08:04] <deffrag> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/
[08:04] <Lartza> :)
[08:04] <deffrag> er
[08:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: and that's just because its a pita to remove somethink you make installed
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: what is the output of ruby --version?
[08:05] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, I don't have ruby installed
[08:05] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, repo's have 1.9.1 no?
[08:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: ah, just apt-get install ruby1.9.3
[08:05] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  i don't want the depencecies's .deb
[08:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunuslee: yeah, I understand. I just don't know the answer XD
[08:06] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  :<
[08:06] <sunuslee> ntzrmtthihu777:  i hate manually remove those file.. god
[08:06] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, repo is p194 and latest is p392, does that matter much? :)
[08:06] <Lartza> I am not a Ruby user if you haven't noticed yet ;)
[08:07] <sunuslee> Lartza:  i don't think that matters
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry :( had you downloaded some freaky source code I could tell you, but modding an existing deb is beyond me atm.
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: yeah, unless you
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> re going for the bleeding edge 1.9.3 is good enough.
[08:07] <Lartza> Okay then, how dirty is installing gems?
[08:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: easy as pie.
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> sudo gem install foo
[08:08] <Lartza> I mean I had some problems with Perl
[08:08] <Lartza> I couldn't REMOVE them easily and not sure where they scattered themselves
[08:08] <Lartza> Kind of same problems with pip install on python
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> locate is a wonderous shell command :D
[08:08] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, Mhh :)
[08:08] <ntzrmtthihu777> Lartza: nah, gem's are easy, for the moste part.
[08:08] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, Or never remove the gems ;)
[08:09] <Lartza> Okay thanks for all this info, I'll go grab some breakfast and then start installing
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> unless, again, you need something bleeding edge gems are pretty straight forward.
[08:09] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, I probably won't, I am installing a stable branch of a software :)
[08:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> like for instance the sfml gem is not in the gem repos yet, so you have to rake rake all rake gem gem install it yourself XD
[08:09] <Lartza> ntzrmtthihu777, gitlab, if you are curious :)
[08:09] <Lartza> Mhh
[08:10] <Lartza> Everything should be in gem repos since I followed the installation instructions once with a Ruby I compiled myself and sudo make installed
[08:10] <Lartza> So yeah
[08:10] <Lartza> But I'll go eat some breakfast now :)
[08:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> and unfortuneatly it does not work with ruby2.0 so I had to fall back till it does
[08:11] <miki> hello again :)
[08:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> hello :D
[08:15] <miki> Lartza?
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> miki: left to eat some breakfast
[08:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> later all, sleepy time (3am)
[08:17] <miki> later :)
[08:22] <kriskropd> hey, I'm back, I made progress - using a login manager (in my case, slim) i was able to get pulseaudio and alsa working and can view the pulseaudio volume meter actually moving when i playback something - everything seems to be working, except one problem remains: I don't hear anything XD
[08:25] <LovCAPONE> Q: I would like to dig deeper in Linux. Usage/Development (code)/ etc... Any good books to start?
[08:30] <sunuslee> how can i use dpkg-buildpackage only build theh .deb i need, and omit the depencecies's .deb file?
[08:34] <she_dyed> sa`tan: /part
[08:34] <she_dyed> sorry
[08:36] <talpur> hi
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> !manual
[08:37] <kriskropd> I fixed my audio problem, had to mute "Mix Line Jack" which was for some odd reason taking my output and looping it through to input creating a loop of mute while pulseaudio saw the whole thing and translated it for me using the volume meter
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> LovCAPONE, I have seen this posted. http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> only 522 pages, lol
[08:41] <LovCAPONE> wilee-nilee: thanks dude
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[08:42] <jackw> which is the best release of ubuntu ???? I thing 11.04 and 12.04
[08:45] <bingo> RG3 dude
[08:46] <bingo> any mathletes here?
[08:49] <carta> \irc.oltreirc
[08:50] <evilkid> Good morning
[08:50] <evilkid> is there anyone that can help me with my graphic card problem?
[08:51] <talpur> hi friends please see the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704063/   and help to resolve problem
[08:51] <Lartza> miki, I ignored you on my client...
[08:51] <Lartza> Private messages anyways
[08:52] <Lartza> miki, What graphics card do you have?
[08:52] <miki> Nvidia GTS240
[08:54] <Lartza> miki, That uses the latest drivers, follow the instructions and either click the notification or go System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[08:54] <talpur> hi freinds help me to resolve problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704063/
[08:55] <Lartza> talpur, That is not an Ubuntu problem, go to pintool
[08:55] <miki> Lartza, I don't have such notification, nor I have Additional Drivers section in System Tools -> Administration
[08:55] <Lartza> miki, Type drivers to the search
[08:56] <Lartza> miki, You have 12.10 right? :)
[08:56] <miki> I do.
[08:56] <Lartza> miki, Then there's a drivers thingi somewhere, search it in shell
[08:56] <Lartza> gnome shell that is
[08:57] <jephb> hi every,i would like to ask the advice.actually i am using ubuntu 12.10 as operating system, and sometimes it get crashed,but i haven't yet used xubuntu or kubuntu, i was thinking that xubuntu or kubuntu may work perfectly for me but i am not sure if i can do everything i use to do with ubuntu.so i would like to know if there is the big difference in terms of performace of what they can do?
[08:57] <Lartza> jephb, All can do everything the other can really
[08:58] <miki> nouveau-firmware - Firmware for nVidia graphics cards
[08:58] <miki> nvidia-settings - Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[08:58] <miki> this is what I find
[08:58] <Lartza> jephb, They just use the different desktop environment, Kubuntu can be heavier than Ubuntu, but Xubuntu is lighter
[08:58] <Lartza> miki, No you want to open a window like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=drivers_dialog.png
[08:59] <Lartza> jephb, Crashes I doubt would be solved by switching
[09:00] <jephb> do you think i can wait  for the release of 13.04 ?
[09:00] <Lartza> miki, Failing to do that apt-get install nvidia-current should work too... but there is a drivers install in Ubuntu
[09:01] <miki> I am with the Gnome layout, not Unity, so I can't find it that easy :D I guess I will try the terminal command
[09:02] <Lartza> miki, jockey-gtk should be the gui ran from terminal
[09:03] <Lartza> But nvidia-current is the driver you want/need so either way should work
[09:03] <nabblet> miki use gksudo jockey-gtk
[09:03] <miki> I already did "apt-get install nvidia-current" as you told me
[09:03] <Lartza> miki, I am going to have to go, have to help with some moving
[09:03] <miki> Okay, Lartza, thank you once again and have a nice day, man :)
[09:04] <guest124325> I'm trying to install libpq5 via apt-get but it appears that the package forbidden
[09:04] <guest124325> help me out?
[09:04] <Lartza> No problem :) You too, I'll be on in the evening but just ask here for any help :)
before ,i have been using ubuntu 10.04 and i was great no crash,every was fine, i have bought a new laptop when install ubuntu 10.04 i missed wireless drivers i decided to install 12.10 i had all drivers but the system was instable.now i wondering if i can install 13.04 or if i can install xubuntu
[09:05] <Lartza> jephb, I'd try fixing the instability problems, no reason why they would go away in 13.04 really
[09:06] <Lartza> But like I said, I have to go, good luck with your problems
[09:07] <nabblet> jephb, maybe you try debian?
[09:07] <jephb> are the commands and software the same?
[09:07] <nabblet> jephb, it si pretty close to ubuntu - you will feel at home
[09:08] <nabblet> jephb, in fact ubuntu is based on debian
[09:10] <guest124325> I can't install libpq5, it gives me 403 Forbidden error
[09:10] <guest124325> !help
[09:11] <nabblet> jephb, the installation may not look as fancy as the install of ubuntu - but it is the same basically and you got pretty much all the same packages
[09:11] <bekks> guest124325: Then change the mirror selected.
[09:11] <guest124325> bekks: okay I will try that
[09:12] <detailyang_> test
[09:12] <jephb> let me google it i will back soon
[09:12] <guest124325> bekks: this is a new installation, how do I change the mirror?
[09:13] <bekks> guest124325: By configuring another mirror in /etc/apt/sources.list e.g.
[09:13] <repsaj> Good day, I have a question related to UCK and automount. I would like to disable the automount feature on my new Live CD. To do so I tried to use the command "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false" in the UCK customization tool (terminal). After I made my new LiveUSB this did not work out. After that I tried to put an .sh script into /etc/rc.local with again the...
[09:13] <repsaj> ...gsettings command. But I got the same result. Anyone an idea how I could fix the problem. I would like to have automount disabled for all media.
[09:13] <guest124325> bekks: trying now
[09:16] <Guest83507> moi
[09:16] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i'm running Ubuntu 12.10, but i keep having errors such as: System program problem detected..  (that popup) any idea how I can work out whats causing it?
[09:24] <nabblet> AdvoWork, what happens when you click on it
[09:25] <nabblet> AdvoWork, apart from that - look at the errormessages in dmesg ann /var/log/syslog
[09:25] <nabblet> *dmesg
[09:39] <sunuslee> hi, can i use grep with two strings? no one string and a file
[09:39] <Tantor> Hello. I'm very unknown to preg_replace, read the manual, but I still don't get it. My goal is to replace a part of a text. This part to replace looks like this:<cs>Here is some text</cs>. My goal is to replace the text and tags as a whole. How should the pattern be? Now I have this: preg_replace('/<cs>(.*)<\/cs>/is', 'Test', $text);
[09:39] <sunuslee> how?
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> sunuslee  Tantor better ask in #bash
[09:42] <Tantor> Oh sorry, this is the ubuntu channel, though I was writing in the php channel. Sorry to bother
[09:42] <l_r> how can i get the version of an installed deb?
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> l_r  apt-cache policy
[09:45] <repsaj> sunuslee you mean "grep string1 | grep string2" or "grep 'string1 string2'"
[09:45] <histo> sunuslee: grep string filename
[09:45] <sunuslee> grep string1 string2, string1 is patten and string2 is target
[09:45] <l_r> someone must tell me why dpkg -s libusb says that that damn package is not installed althogh i did install it and use it
[09:46] <l_r> what's the problem with libusb?
[09:46] <sunuslee> repsaj: grep string1 string2, string1 is patten and string2 is target
[09:46] <histo> sunuslee: grep string /some/path/*  works here
[09:46] <sunuslee> histo:  i mean, i don't grep a file, just a string
[09:46] <histo> sunuslee: then what is the target in yoru example?
[09:47] <sunuslee> histo:  let's say patten is "asd" , target is "asdlala". it should be matched
[09:47] <repsaj> sunuslee: how did you defined the string?
[09:47] <repsaj> ah
[09:47] <histo> sunuslee: then why wouldn't you just grep for asdlala
[09:48] <sunuslee> histo:  what ? i just do that to simple test if a patten can be matched
[09:48] <histo> sunuslee: yes
[09:48] <histo> sunuslee: you aren't making any sense. You would just grep asdlala
[09:49] <awestroke> When I start my computer (12.10 x64, fglrx, autologin), unity doesn't start, and I can't access other tty's by doing ctrl+shift+f# . I tried starting a term with ctrl+shift+t, but that doesn't work either. What do?
[09:49] <sunuslee> histo: so, if i want to test if string 'asdasd' can be matched by patten 'asd'  how?
[09:49] <sunuslee> then i echo $? to see the result
[09:50] <histo> sunuslee: yes it would mathc
[09:50] <histo> s/mathc/match
[09:50] <histo> sunuslee: what are you trying to do?  it sounds like you have an XY problem to me.
[09:51] <sunuslee> histo:  yeah:( i am tring to fine a way to simple test a patten
[09:51] <sebiseb> guys if u want a good soccer tips site... try www.onlywinbet.com   they are very good
[09:51] <any> helo
[09:52] <histo> sunuslee: if you grep asd  it would match 'asdlala' or 'asdasd'  because asd is contained within those two results.  This is why I don't understand your question
[09:52] <sunuslee> histo:  i know:(
[09:52] <histo> sunuslee: then what's the problem?
[09:53] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> hello
[09:53] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Anybody have issues with 12.10
[09:53] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> ???
[09:53] <sunuslee> histo:  i mean, i just try to find a way to test if a patten match a string. because if i want to test patten 'asd*' and string 'asdlala'
[09:53] <histo> sunuslee: if you want it to only match asd if there is 'asd' and not 'asdlala'  then you would -w
[09:53] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Encrypted version?
[09:53] <sunuslee> i can put string 'asdlala' to a file call a
[09:54] <bekks> !anyone | wfzxcvyulwfaqw
[09:54] <sunuslee> then grep 'asd' a. but i don't want to do that extract work
[09:54] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Video Drivers issues
[09:54] <sunuslee> histo:  humm, do u know what i mean:)
[09:54] <bekks> !details | wfzxcvyulwfaqw
[09:54] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Without encryption all is well
[09:55] <histo> sunuslee: No I still don't know what you mean you're not making sense to me.  Maybe you are lookign for egrep to match regular expressions or grep -E regexp
[09:55] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Quantal, Laptop, Integrated Graphics, Radeon/Inteal by ATI
[09:55] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Using Catalyst Control Center...
[09:55] <at-912> where to get 13.xx iso?
[09:55] <bekks> wfzxcvyulwfaqw: And a full error description, in a full sentence, on one line please.
[09:55] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Defaults to low graphics mode.
[09:55] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> I don't mind terminal
[09:56] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> But it gets boring...
[09:56] <bekks> !enter | wfzxcvyulwfaqw
[09:56] <bekks> wfzxcvyulwfaqw: Please state your problem in a full sentence on one line so it gets readable after all.
[09:56] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> Quantal+LVM+encryption, Laptop, Integrated Graphics, Radeon/Inteal by ATI     PROBLEM == Defaults to low graphics mode.
[09:57] <sunuslee> histo:  sunus@|\/|13p~:/var/lol$ [[ asdlala == asd* ]]; echo $?
[09:57] <sunuslee> 0
[09:57] <sunuslee> i got what i want, like that above :)
[09:58] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> PEACE
[09:58] <wfzxcvyulwfaqw> FREENODE => !helpCENTER
[09:58] <histo> sunuslee: try your question in #bash
[09:59] <repsaj> histo: sunuslee asdlala == *asd* ;-)
[09:59] <x0_devnull> are there any alternatives to wpe pro for v12?
[10:00] <vitimiti> hi
[10:00] <histo> repsaj: I have no idea wth he is trying to do
[10:00] <sunuslee> repsaj: thank you!
[10:00] <sunuslee> histo:  hahahahha :)
[10:01] <repsaj> I think its just checking if STRING2 contains a part of STRING1
[10:01] <histo> at-912: #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <x0_devnull> you could use strpos
[10:01] <repsaj> and like if statements are far better 'readable' ;-)
[10:01] <histo> sunuslee: I can't understand your english
[10:01] <sunuslee> repsaj:  nope :< but it almost right, dont check simple contain, but using regrep
[10:02] <repsaj> No command 'regrep' found, did you mean:
[10:02] <sunuslee> histo:  here's why i di that, i was writting a script, i want to test some statment, just like interactive environment
[10:03] <histo> sunuslee: XY problem
[10:03] <bekks> sunuslee: Then why dont you finally describe your real problem in detail?
[10:04] <repsaj> so its slighty more active here than an hour ago
[10:04] <repsaj> so im gona ask my question again.
[10:05] <repsaj> repsaj	Good day, I have a question related to UCK and automount. I would like to disable the automount feature on my new Live CD. To do so I tried to use the command "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount false" in the UCK customization tool (terminal). After I made my new LiveUSB this did not work out. After that I tried to put an .sh script into /etc/rc.local with again the...
[10:05] <repsaj> 	repsaj	...gsettings command. But I got the same result. Anyone an idea how I could fix the problem. I would like to have automount disabled for all media.
[10:05] <bekks> repsaj: Whats "UCK"?
[10:05] <repsaj> Ubuntu Costumization Kit (to make Live CD's)
[10:07] <histo> repsaj: perhaps gnome moved the setting let me do some digging
[10:07] <bazhang> !uck
[10:07] <bazhang> bekks, ^
[10:07] <bekks> bazhang: Thanks :)
[10:07] <histo> repsaj: that key is still there hrm....
[10:08] <repsaj> yea histo I tought so. What I did I runned my liveCD in virtualbox and I checked the key with gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.media-handling automount. And it returned true. But it should be false.
[10:09] <histo> repsaj: so the setting is not staying
[10:10] <repsaj> jups
[10:10] <histo> repsaj: can you confirm after setting it with gsettings then get it that the value changed?
[10:11] <repsaj> in UCK I see it changed
[10:11] <repsaj> so after that I build the .iso and run it trough virtualbox. And in virtualbox it says different than in UCK
[10:12] <histo> repsaj: are you creating a new user  possibly in the build process?
[10:12] <repsaj> nope
[10:13] <talpur> hi memeber How I check that glibc  installed or not in my ubuntu
[10:13] <histo> repsaj: well then something in uck is changing the setting
[10:14] <histo> repsaj: or pulling a setting for a skel file or something gooofy
[10:14] <repsaj> histo: is gsettings a setting for a user or is it system wide?
[10:15] <histo> repsaj: user
[10:16] <repsaj> that would mean I must make a user on my new liveCD to disable automount?
[10:16] <histo> repsaj: what user is on your livecd already?
[10:17] <repsaj> in UCK there is no user, but it uses the user from the host. When I launch the liveCD it makes the user 'ubuntu'
[10:19] <histo> repsaj: so make the settings system wide then it should work. With gsettings it would only change the logged in users settings.
[10:19] <histo> repsaj: believe you willneed to use gconf and dconf
[10:19] <histo> s/and/or
[10:20] <repsaj> im gona check that out
[10:22] <histo> repsaj: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/
[10:24] <histo> repsaj: that may not be the "ubuntu" way. I'm not seeing dconf tools installed by default let me keep looking a bit. Now you peeked my interest
[10:24] <repsaj> dconf
[10:24] <repsaj> yea I see
[10:27] <Abhijit> hi guys. which is best gpu for day to day professional animation work and also works well on linux?
[10:27] <LinuxHorst> any nvdia gpu
[10:29] <repsaj> histo: dconf-editor = GUI. But UCK only launches a shell. So we can only use gsettings.
[10:31] <histo> repsaj: you can create files and use the dconf command line tool
[10:31] <repsaj> isnt that gconftool-2 ?
[10:31] <histo> repsaj: https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/lockdown.html.en
[10:32] <histo> repsaj: and this https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/dconf-profiles.html.en
[10:33] <histo> repsaj: the later link maybe the one you want for setting default values
[10:33] <histo> repsaj: rather than locking it down on a multi user system
[10:34] <repsaj> after the default value a lock was also on my to do list ;-)
[10:34] <kcfklcfwk> CAN you do the CAN-CAN?
[10:34] <kcfklcfwk> WWJD?
[10:34] <histo> !ot | kcfklcfwk
[10:35] <histo> !best | Abhijit
[10:35] <kcfklcfwk> IT"S ALL ABOUT LUVZ
[10:35] <kcfklcfwk> and LOLZ
[10:35] <kcfklcfwk> Bon voyage
[10:36] <kcfklcfwk> ;P
[10:36] <k1l_> kcfklcfwk: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks
[10:36] <Abhijit> histo, you sir, have a little confusion here. i hope you know that not all h/w works well on linux
[10:37] <k1l_> !hcl | Abhijit
[10:37] <histo> Abhijit: No confusion don't take polls in this channel.
[10:38] <histo> Abhijit: Both ATI and Nvidia cards will work in linux. Both companies release proprietary drivers. I would look at which one has better open source drivers perhaps.
[10:40] <Abhijit> histo, this is not a poll sir.
[10:41] <repsaj> histo: it seems that my live CD only has gconf, not dconf. I am looking further into this.
[10:41] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in changing the default folder for vsftpd? It is /srv/ftp and I want to change it to /home/user/videos
[10:41] <histo> Abhijit: then don't ask "which is best" if you are not seeking opinions
[10:42] <Abhijit> histo i am asking about facts sir.
[10:42] <histo> repsaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34490/what-are-the-differences-between-gconf-and-dconf
[10:43] <bekks> Abhijit: Facts were linked by giving you the HCL.
[10:44] <Abhijit> bekks, thank you very much sir.
[10:51] <Iszak> So I'm setting up a server, has anyone got a list of best practices for setting up a server? security wise.
[10:53] <x0_devnull> if it's a webserver, use nginx
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  there's also #ubunt-server
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> Iszak  there's also #ubuntu-server
[10:56] <Iszak> alright thanks
[10:56] <fwucvlwfmpfp> this is DINGUS with ATI VIDEO problem Kase anybody cares: if you're using 12.10 with encrypt+LVM and have certain hardware components which require special commands at boot you may need to modify GRUB or download a few extra SOURCE pkgs (also it helps if you pull your head outta your kester....) toodles ;-P
[11:05] <mac> hello.. what is the packet name for OpenGL 1.2+
[11:05] <mac> ubuntu software center, 12.04 lts
[11:07] <mac> those ubuntu 12.04 lts have openGL installed by default?
[11:13] <joppe_> I've connected a phone to my server but I can't figure out how to find what port its connected to.. ive looked thro dmesg and I can see its connected with lsusb.. its probarbly like /dev/ttyUSB0 but nothing displays.. where to look?
[11:13] <histo> mac: what language are you using
[11:14] <histo> joppe_: connected how?
[11:14] <histo> joppe_: if it's connected via usb lsusb would show you which port
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: usb chord
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: lsusb doesnt
[11:16] <joppe_> histo: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 067b:2303
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: yes
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: That is the port what are you looking for?
[11:17] <shmoon> what is this 8.8.8.8 ip related to ?
[11:17] <joppe_> histo: but what is that in /dev/ttyUSB?
[11:17] <Capprentice> shmoon, its the google dns
[11:17] <shmoon> oh got it thanks
[11:17] <histo> joppe_: check dmesg
[11:18] <joppe_> histo: did that already I said ;/
[11:26] <mac> my language aint important.. is OpenGL installed on 12.04 lts ? example: live usb
[11:26] <loxs> how can I install proprietary drivers via the terminal?  I mean, I want to do exactly the same that the graphical "Updates and software" application does.
[11:26] <mac> histo
[11:27] <qknight> my server tells me on login that there are 6 security upgrades but apt-get upgrade -s shows that it will not upgrade anything, what could cause this?
[11:28] <qknight> *** Neustart des Systems erforderlich *** <- oh, vielleicht deswegen ;-)
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> qknight  try apt-get update, first
[11:29] <Myrtti> qknight: what does apt-get dist-upgrade say then
[11:29] <mac> is OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb
[11:30] <mac> can please someone tell me, if it is OpenGL installed on ubuntu 12.04 lts ? example: fresh install from live usb .. is there openGL allready installed?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> mac  guess so, as there are some opengl screensavers
[11:32] <mac> thank u, MonkeyDust...
[11:32] <mac> now.. i dont get it... minecraft says i need openGL 1.2+
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> mac  just read something about installing minecraft, moment
[11:33] <Ben64> mac: you need java and 3d capable video card drivers
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> oops, not minecraft, something diferent with mine, for server
[11:34] <mac> i did.. a study over it.. does not work for me on virtual (xp, xp pro, ubuntu/ubuntu shell, ubuntu/gnome shell.. :( pissed..
[11:35] <mac> ben64, how to get those?
[11:35] <histo> mac: What video card do you have?
[11:35] <Ben64> mac: 3d is not easy to get working in a VM
[11:35] <histo> mac: oh this is in a VM?
[11:35] <qknight> MonkeyDust: i did apt-get update first ;-)
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to update the kernel with 3 packages
[11:36] <mac> dont know... i use laptop HP Compaq 6710b
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: no it is 6 packages ;-)
[11:36] <Myrtti> mac: so it is a virtual machine then? which kind?
[11:36] <Myrtti> qknight: there you have it then.
[11:36] <qknight> Myrtti: thanks!
[11:37] <histo> mac: Are you using a virtual machine right now to run ubuntu?
[11:37] <mac> i dont care where it is, how it is... just, please, help me to fix...  oracle ? Vm box manager
[11:37] <mac> nope
[11:37] <qknight> Myrtti: do i have to reboot after this kernel update -> linux-image-generic-pae (3.2.0.40.48) wird eingerichtet ...
[11:37] <histo> mac: Why are you trying to run minecraft in virtual box?
[11:37] <mac> ubuntu is on external usb hd
[11:37] <mac> cuz it aint working normaly?
[11:38] <histo> mac: You just need to install java and proper video drivers
[11:38] <Myrtti> qknight: if you want to use it
[11:38] <Ben64> mac: run it on whatever OS you have running natively
[11:38] <histo> mac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5558/how-can-i-install-minecraft#5565
[11:38] <mac> i have java... 7
[11:38] <qknight> Myrtti: yes i think i have to since it was reported as a security upgrade i guess, is that not right?
[11:38] <mac> thats ubuntu
[11:38] <Ben64> mac: java os? doesn't exist
[11:39] <histo> mac: please paste the output of lspci
[11:39] <histo> !paste | mac
[11:39] <mac> i have java.. not sure over drivers.. i use ubuntu allways.. only shity xp is in help, when linux dies
[11:40] <histo> mac: if you paste the output of lspci to paste.ubuntu.com we can help you with proper video drivers
[11:40] <mac> wip....
[11:40] <histo> mac: or go to system settings > hardware  if on 12.10 go to system settings > software sources > hardware tab
[11:41] <mac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704449/
[11:41] <histo> mac: also if all you use is ubuntu why are you booting it off of usb?
[11:41] <mac> there u go
[11:41] <pankaj> guys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection
[11:41] <Ben64> mac: when you start your computer, does windows start up?
[11:41] <pankaj> guys ! problem with PPPoE internet connection
[11:41] <mac> cuz.. i dont have a computer...
[11:41] <mac> i visit people.. and i need my.. "home " with me
[11:41] <Ben64> pankaj: yeah we saw you, wait more than 8 seconds before repeating. like maybe 15 minutes
[11:41] <Ben64> mac: laptop is a computer, don't be difficult
[11:42] <mac> if i told grub to boot from first hd.. yes
[11:42] <Ben64> i give up
[11:42] <histo> mac: You have java installed?
[11:42] <mac> hold on.. brb
[11:43] <histo> mac: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48468/how-do-i-install-java
[11:43] <histo> !details | pankaj
[11:43] <mac> stop!!!!!
[11:43] <histo> mac: stop what?
[11:44] <mac> open JDK Java! 7 Runtime, 6 Runtime, IcedTea Java web Start... if i say brb, dont write please... i get lost
[11:45] <mac> ben64, i know it is i use it.. :)
[11:45] <mac> histo, please continue
[11:46] <mac> IcedTea Java Browser plugin aint istalled.. install?
[11:47] <Piratelv> Hello everyone. My Ethernet link keeps going down without the interface actually going offline. It just stops responding. (ping gives back "No route to host") Already messed withe the mtu but that only seems to have made it worse.
[11:48] <mac> histo?
[11:48] <mac> ben64
[11:48] <mac> can u help me out?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Piratelv  is the cable well plugged?
[11:49] <Piratelv> MonkeyDust, Yes. doing a "/etc/init.d/network restart" restores the network for a few minutes/hours
[11:56] <artrei> should i use nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates?
[11:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:00] <moppers> BluesKaj, hello
[12:00] <BluesKaj> hi moppers
[12:00] <histo> mac: You don't need icedtea
[12:01] <histo> mac: What happens when you rigth click on the minecraft.jar and open with ?? what are you options?
[12:01] <mac> sorry, histo.. i need to go now.. :(
[12:01] <mac> will come back tomorow.. perhaps..
[12:01] <mac> have a day, all of u..
[12:02] <mac> and tnx
[12:02] <ZoRRgh> Can anyone recommend a good commandline texteditor? Currently using VIM.
[12:03] <compdoc> nano
[12:03] <jrib> ZoRRgh: what's wrong with vim?
[12:03] <compdoc> vi is sooo 1960s
[12:03] <ZoRRgh> Nothing wrong with it. Just wanted to hear some options. Nano i also tried.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> and unix frtom the 60s doesn't work
[12:03] <jrib> ZoRRgh: try emacs
[12:03] <moppers> define 'g ood' in the context of editors. what feadtures do you want/nee
[12:04] <ZoRRgh> Isn't emacs gui based?
[12:04] <jrib> ZoRRgh: there's a gui just like there's a gui for vim, but you can run it in your shell
[12:05] <ZoRRgh> I didn't know that. I might check that out.
[12:05] <moppers> nano is quite basic, not many features compared to vim or emacs: really cannot compare them as they're different products for differenet functions
[12:05] <moppers> err i mean nano is a different class of program to vim or emacs
[12:06] <moppers> nano is great for simple text editing, if you want anything more complex, i find you need vim or emacs
[12:06] <compdoc> nano has everything I need in a text editor. never used a feature in vi that nano didnt have and made easier
[12:06] <moppers> Yes, it's subjective
[12:07] <ZoRRgh> Okay. So nano is like the name implies were small editing tool.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> nano is certainly handy when stuck in a tty after an X problem ...saved my bacon a few times
[12:08] <moppers> ya, they all have their uses
[12:08] <ZoRRgh> Thanks guys. Ill just continue being afk now. ^^
[12:10] <moppers> if you need stuff like a debugger for code, you need vim: nano won't do it. if you just need to write shell scripts, nano is really easy to use
[12:12] <ZoRRgh> I think if i stick to using nano and vim ill be covered pretty good.
[12:15] <shafox> hi , my lucid box says i dont have java everytime i run some program that depends on java, but i have already installed it ..
[12:17] <mako_> hi
[12:18] <mako_> anyone has succesfully installed vmware player 4 or 5 on (l)ubuntu 13.04?
[12:18] <bazhang> mako_, raring issues on #ubuntu+1
[12:19] <xzcvczx> shafox: what happens if you try running "java" on the command line?
[12:19] <mako_> k ty
 toon@shadowfox:~$ java The program 'java' can be found in the following packages: * gcj-4.4-jre-headless * openjdk-6-jre-headless * cacao * gij-4.3 * jamvm Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[12:21] <shafox> but the openjdk-6 is installed
[12:22] <xzcvczx> shafox: the jdk != jre
[12:22] <xzcvczx> the jdk is for development so contains javac but not java i believe
[12:23] <xzcvczx> and headers etc, as javac is used for "compiling" .java files into .class files then java runs them
[12:23] <shafox> xzcvczx: so which package to install?? i am not a java developer, so i just need the programs that need java to run smoothly
[12:25] <xzcvczx> openjre-6?
[12:25] <xzcvczx> or openjdk-6-jre-headless?
[12:25] <mx8manger> hello guys
[12:26] <xzcvczx> hey mx8manger
[12:26] <mx8manger> i would like to add a new user manually
[12:26] <mx8manger> everything is good
[12:26] <shafox> xzcvczx: openjdk-6-jre-headless: already installed
[12:26] <mx8manger> but how to figure out the default shadowfile encryption policy ?
[12:26] <ThomasM_> Hello everybody
[12:26] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: why would you been adding one that manually? is a BADIDEA(tm)
[12:27] <mx8manger> i want to know MOAR how everything is going
[12:27] <mx8manger> and it will be better idea if changed to a better salted pwd
[12:27] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: a better salted pwd?
[12:28] <mx8manger> so script kittens/kiddies do nothing
[12:28]  * cfhowlett ... salted password?  not peppered?
[12:28] <mx8manger> ubuntu by default dosnt salt the hashes right ?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> ThomasM_, greetings
[12:28] <xzcvczx> shafox: apt-get install openjdk-6-jre?
[12:28] <mx8manger> but i faild figuring out the hashing type
[12:28] <jrib> mx8manger: why do you say that...?
[12:29] <mx8manger> i just want to secure my self better
[12:29] <shafox> xzcvzx: yes i did it said it is newest version
[12:29] <jrib> mx8manger: read man 3 crypt
[12:30] <mx8manger>  3 stands for what
[12:30] <xzcvczx> mx8manger: if your shadow line is $x$blah$blah then its hashed
[12:30] <xzcvczx> salted*
[12:30] <jrib> mx8manger: the section
[12:31] <jrib> mx8manger: maybe this interests you too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features#hashing
[12:31] <ThomasM_> I have a strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.
[12:31] <ThomasM_> This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:
[12:31] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo"
[12:32] <ThomasM_> But the same for ttyUSB doenst work
[12:32] <ThomasM_> KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.
[12:32] <ThomasM_> does somebody have a explanation why
[12:48] <xzcvczx> shafox: still around? try "whereis java" and see if that gives you anything
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> Guys sorry a quick question
[12:51] <delocaz> Hello! I'm wondering how to open the little boot menu when booting from a live CD without a working keyboard, since it only recieves power after that little logo that says keyboard=man goes away
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> LinuxHipster  hope we have a quick answer
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> How do I turn off ubuntu default desktop :0 and just use tightvnc to control my OS remotely
[12:51] <xzcvczx> delocaz: get usb keyboard :P
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> from desktop :2 or :3
[12:51] <LinuxHipster> ":0"
[12:51] <delocaz> xzcvczx, I am using an USB keyboard
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> !mini
[12:52] <xzcvczx> delocaz: thats odd, what sort of keyboard? i assume you can't use keyboard to access bios either then?
[12:53] <[deXter]> delocaz, There should be an option in the BIOS to enable USB input devices ... legacy mode or something like that
[12:53] <delocaz> [deXter], i'm gonna try that. brb
[12:53] <xzcvczx> [deXter]: if he can access bios :P
[12:56] <shafox> xzcvczx: it gave whereis java java: /etc/java /usr/share/java
[12:57] <LinuxHipster> How do I kill Ubuntu's default desktop that runs on screen "desktop :0" and just use tightvnc or xrdp to control my linux from "desktop :1"
[12:57] <xzcvczx> LinuxHipster: why do you need to stop it from running the desktop on :0?
[12:58] <xzcvczx> LinuxHipster: you can set it up for vnc on another desktop and still have :0 up
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> I am will control the laptop from another laptop on same network
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> I don't need the first desktop running
[12:58] <houser> I have a very poor wifi connection on my one computer, and only a single laptop running ubuntu has a decent reception, so i want to capture wifi on this laptop and forward it to another computer (while still beeing available for use on this laptop). Is that possible on ubuntu?
[12:58] <LinuxHipster> houser you will need a ethernet cable
[12:59] <LinuxHipster> and set a bridge connection
[12:59] <houser> LinuxHipster, yeah, i have that
[12:59] <shafox> xzcvczx: any thoughts?? it shows that there is some path to java but i cant run java
[12:59] <houser> LinuxHipster, how do i set a bridge connection?
[12:59] <xzcvczx> houser: its not possible with any os unless you have 2 wifi cards
[12:59] <xzcvczx> well 2 wifi adapters
[12:59] <houser> xzcvczx, but i just want to forward from wifi to ethernet cable
[13:00] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me in setting FTP server using vsftpd. I started the service but when I am accessing from windows machine I am getting "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()" error
[13:00] <LinuxHipster> Well I never really tried it myself so I don't know how, It's super easy to set up a bridge connection on windows though
[13:00] <xzcvczx> shafox: gimme a min, i am just installing java to check something
[13:00] <LinuxHipster> just a couple of clicks
[13:00] <shafox> ok
[13:01] <xzcvczx> c2tarun: chmod
[13:01] <sprlhzl> hey guys i have a 10.04 server but suddenly it doesn't boot, instead it gives me a ureadahead error status 5
[13:01] <sprlhzl> does anybody know how i fix that?
[13:02] <xzcvczx> shafox: ls /etc/alternatives/java
[13:02] <c2tarun> xzcvczx, you mean I have to give access to write into the folder of ftp to the temparory user I created to login to ftp?
[13:02] <shafox> xzcvczx: no such file or directory
[13:03] <xzcvczx> c2tarun: no you have to make the root directory thats served non writable by the server i believe
[13:03] <android> hey all, so im currently locked out of my ubuntu... unity has frozen i think, i cant move or click any of the windows, but i can type on this terminal. how can i restart it?
[13:03] <xzcvczx> ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java
[13:03] <xzcvczx> shafox: ^^
[13:03] <android> and i can see my mouse cursor
[13:03] <ZoRRgh> sudo rebbot
[13:04] <c2tarun> xzcvczx, ok, let me try
[13:04] <android> i don't want to reboot...
[13:04] <xzcvczx> ctrl-alt-backspace
[13:04] <ZoRRgh> ^^
[13:04] <xzcvczx> android: ^^
[13:04] <android> xzcvczx: is that a shortcut for reboot?
[13:04] <xzcvczx> no
[13:04] <xzcvczx> it restarts x
[13:04] <ZoRRgh> just install gnome-fallback instead.
[13:04] <xzcvczx> well kills x and then x aurto restarts
[13:04] <android> hmm didn't work
[13:05] <xzcvczx> android: /exec killall unity
[13:05] <shafox> xzcvczx: i have this ls /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[13:05] <xzcvczx> shafox: ok and ls /usr/bin/java
[13:05] <android> xzcvczx: so type /exec killall unity from terminal?
[13:06] <xzcvczx> android: well i assume your terminal is a irc client?
[13:06] <android> xzcvczx: yeah it is atm :P
[13:06] <shafox> xzcvczx: no such file or directory
[13:06] <android> xzcvczx: on irssi atm
[13:06] <xzcvczx> android: then /exec makes it execute
[13:06] <android> ah
[13:06] <android> no process found
[13:06] <android> it says
[13:06] <ZoRRgh> android: you could install another ui.
[13:06] <xzcvczx> shafox: try running that java file you found
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> android  irssi in combination with screen makes it more flexible
[13:07] <ZoRRgh> Unity sucks anyway
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !who
[13:07] <xzcvczx> ZoRRgh: ok, you have made your pont....
[13:07] <xzcvczx> point*
[13:07] <android> yeah...
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> ZoRRgh  yu don't like it, that's different
[13:07] <android> it doesn't help me right now ZoRRgh
[13:07] <xzcvczx> android: /exec ps aux
[13:07] <xzcvczx> see if you can find unity in that list
[13:07] <ZoRRgh> ^^ No. I prefer the old gnome layout.
[13:08] <xzcvczx> android: or if its easier ctrl-alt-f1 and do it there
[13:08] <shafox> xzcvczx: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk/jre/bin/java
[13:08] <shafox>  this file i found. what to run?
[13:08] <xzcvczx> ZoRRgh: good for you.... now how bout a nice cup of STU
[13:08] <xzcvczx> shafox: try it
[13:08] <android> xzcvczx: /exec unity seems to have relaunched/fixed it :) thanks buddy
[13:08] <xzcvczx> android: lol, ok
[13:08] <ZoRRgh> xzcvczx: Point taken sir.
[13:09] <xzcvczx> android: might want to check if there is a zombie around
[13:09] <android> xzcvczx: is that linux lingo, or do you mean a literal zombie? haha
[13:09] <xzcvczx> android: dead process
[13:09] <xzcvczx> hence zombie
[13:09] <xzcvczx> as its still gets in the way eating up ram
[13:09] <android> xzcvczx: ah ;)
[13:09] <shafox> xzcvczx: this is what i got. https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378345 . i guess java is installed cause its outputting the usage options
[13:11] <ZoRRgh> android: Did you recently update any drivers? I once had no gui when logging in. Maybe its the same thing
[13:11] <delocaz> Hello! Another quick question: I tried to install Xubuntu on an old computer, and it didn't boot up to Ubiquity. I then got told to set the nomodeset parameter on the kernel, but didn't work. Right now, it boots up to text saying Xubuntu 12.10 and 4 dots underneath, then goes black, then flashes a cursor for half a seconf, then goes black again.
[13:11] <ZoRRgh> Nwm
[13:11] <delocaz> How can I fix this?
[13:12] <xzcvczx> shafox try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | delocaz
[13:12] <shafox> xzcvczx: no alternatives for java
[13:12] <k1l_> android: do you have the headers for your kernel version?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> delocaz  ok, you did that
[13:12] <delocaz> MonkeyDust, I have tried nomodeset, but it didn't fix the problem.
[13:13] <xzcvczx> !novga
[13:13] <xzcvczx> nope apparently not
[13:14] <LinuxHipster> How do check how much space do I have left on my hard drive?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> LinuxHipster, df -H
[13:14] <xzcvczx> shafox: no idea sorry then.... might have to try nuking and reinstalling java
[13:14] <bekks> LinuxHipster: Type "df -h" in a terminal
[13:15] <LinuxHipster> Alright, thanks <3
[13:15] <shafox> xzcvczx: any link to that ?? what packages i need to purge and reinstall again sort of
[13:16] <bekks> !java > shafox
[13:16] <xzcvczx> shafox: thanks bekks
[13:16] <ThomasM_> Hello everyone
[13:16] <xzcvczx> welcome back ThomasM_
[13:16] <cfhowlett> ThomasM_, greetings
[13:16] <shafox> xzcvczx: thanks bekks
[13:17] <ThomasM_> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10. This rules is working fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device: KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo" Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="
[13:17] <ThomasM_> This rule for the ttyUSB devices doesn't work.
[13:17] <delocaz> Anyone?
[13:17] <xzcvczx> ThomasM_: anythign in the logs?
[13:17] <android> xzcvczx: yeah i'm getting weird behaviour, like all of the icons on the launcher are missing haha. is there an easy way to kill and restart unity without closing all my open stuff? i've got a lot of unsaved work open.
[13:18] <RusVicious> Have a nice day
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: easiest just to save and restart most likely
[13:18] <android> xzcvczx: fair enough :( lame haha
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: theres a bunch of stuff to restart
[13:18] <shafox> btw i followed that ubuntu comunity page how to install java, but still dont have it by having it
[13:18] <kinimodultra_> hi
[13:18] <xzcvczx> android: least you don't need to reboot (unlike windows) :P
[13:18] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx i didn't see anything starnge in the syslog
[13:18] <RusVicious> Someone ported Ubuntu Phone on LG  optimus L9 (P675)?
[13:18] <android> xzcvczx: i don't?
[13:19] <xzcvczx> android: nah just logout and login
[13:19] <android> xzcvczx: oh :)
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !touch|RusVicious,
[13:19] <ThomasM_> xvcvczx Then I tried a simpler rule like this: ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyRoboClaw" But the created symlink links to the bus "ttyRoboClaw -> bus/usb/001/012" instead of the original device path "ttyUSB0"
[13:20] <kinimodultra_> i have a problem with ubuntu instal. please help with that?
[13:20] <bekks> kinimodultra_: Only if you actually state your problem.
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !details|kinimodultra_,
[13:20] <xzcvczx> ThomasM_: doesn't that achieve the same thing?
[13:21] <xzcvczx> shafox: it seems that java is becoming a bit of a dead art these days (well on desktop anyway)
[13:21] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx if the link points to the bus its not possible for me to use the symlink in c++ to open a deviece also its not possible to use it in the shell
[13:22] <bekks> xzcvczx: Which is not true :)
[13:22] <xzcvczx> bekks: lol maybe i am just dreaming of a better future :)
[13:22] <kinimodultra_> bekks:  yes of course. I install ubuntu (no problem) and when i restart Pc (instal is complete) its only dash on screen (on black screen) and its all
[13:22] <shafox> xzcvczx: well the applications still needs it to run properly. and java wont die , it can't
[13:23] <bekks> shafox: It can, but it wont.
[13:23] <CorySimmons> Hey guys, anyone have any idea why my Samba share is only randomly available? I'm on a shared network with other people and I'm not sure if them connecting/disconnecting affects my share or not. Or if there's something I can do to make my share permanent.
[13:23] <shafox> bekks: yeah ...
[13:23] <ThomasM_> kinimodultra_ trie to open a different console and try to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop
[13:23] <e-v-o> Hey, I have a desktop with brackground only after restarting X. Alt+Ctrl+F1 is unresponsive : ( How do I get out of this?
[13:23] <shafox> So shall I avoid java based applications ??
[13:23] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: ctrl-alt-f1 work?
[13:24] <shafox>  I can't run it
[13:24] <e-v-o> not at alll
[13:24] <kinimodultra_> OK I try this
[13:24] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: ah so ctrl-alt-backspace?
[13:24] <kinimodultra_> thanks
[13:24] <bekks> shafox: Why not?
[13:24] <e-v-o> nope
[13:24] <bekks> shafox: Whats the detailed, exact error you get?
[13:24] <xzcvczx> bekks: not showing up as /etc/alternatives/java or in /usr/bin/java
[13:24] <bekks> xzcvczx: Then you/he needs to install it.
[13:24] <shafox> yeah bekks as xzcvczx said
[13:24] <xzcvczx> s/in/as/
[13:25] <xzcvczx> bekks: lol thats what i said
[13:25] <shafox> bekks: i did install it
[13:25] <bekks> shafox: Obviously you didnt ;)
[13:25] <shafox> and i followed the community page on java
[13:25] <CorySimmons> Anyone know anything about Samba shares in here?
[13:25] <xzcvczx> bekks: the executable is in the /usr/lib folder but not any symlinks
[13:25] <e-v-o> xzcvczx, is it safe to do a hard reset?
[13:25] <bekks> shafox: So which version did you install how?
[13:26] <shafox> bekks: openjdk-6
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: shouldn't hurt anything
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: whats the drive light showing?
[13:26] <shafox> and i installed it through apt-get
[13:26] <e-v-o> no activity
[13:26] <xzcvczx> e-v-o: then yank it
[13:26] <shafox> i mean bekks: it just pops up with the deb installer from help.ubuntu.com/community/java
[13:27] <bekks> shafox: You should install openjdk-6-jdk or openjdk-6-jre at least.
[13:27] <ThomasM_> xzcvczx do you have any more ideas why ttyACM rule for the symlink works bit ttyUSB rule wort?
[13:27] <shafox> bekks: this is waht xzcvczx told me try and the result is this https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378345
[13:27] <jgdovin> well.. wtf. NataLia is spamming sex sites on join?
[13:27] <xzcvczx> jgdovin: are they good ones? :P
[13:28] <shafox> bekks: yeah the deb package is in the help community java page i installed that one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: Thats not using apt-get then-
[13:28] <xzcvczx> shafox: why did you install a deb and not from the repose?
[13:28] <xzcvczx> -e
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: All you need to do is running "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk".
[13:28] <bekks> shafox: Or stick with your manually installed stuff.
[13:29] <shafox> bekks: & xzcvczx: i went directly with the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[13:29] <bekks> shafox: If doing the latter, I am out of support.
[13:30] <shafox> bekks & xzcvczx: i did the OpenJDK first option
[13:30] <shafox> i did nothing as of manual installation
[13:30] <jgdovin> k so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url
[13:30] <bekks> shafox: Please provide the following outputs in a pastebin: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l openjdk
[13:30] <xzcvczx> shafox: does your app require java 1.6?
[13:31] <KaZeR> hi there
[13:31] <shafox> xzcvczx: i am installing subsonic and phpstorm
[13:31] <shafox> they both need 1.6 or later xzcvczx
[13:31] <jgdovin> lol whoops
[13:32] <jgdovin> anyway, back to my question if anyone has suggestions
[13:32] <KaZeR> i have a laptop which crashed during an apt-get upgrade. now some packages seem to be inconsistent
[13:32] <xzcvczx> shafox: then why not install 7?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> KaZeR, recommend you reinstall
[13:32] <KaZeR> example : initramfs-tools is not configured, because it depends on udev, which can't be configured because it depends on initramfs-tools
[13:32] <shafox> bekks: https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378417
[13:33] <KaZeR> cfhowlett, won't be easy.. i'm very far from this laptop, trying to help over the internet
[13:33] <KaZeR> cd /h
[13:33] <shafox> yeah i mean i have one so didn't bother to go for another one btw i am on lucid
[13:33] <KaZeR> gah
[13:33] <shafox> xzcvczx: ^^
[13:33] <bekks> shafox: And could you provide the output "dpkg -l | grep openjdk" too, please?
[13:33] <jgdovin> k so its been a bit since i set up a server and i just set up a new vps with vilayer. i can ssh in but it cannot ping out to any ip or url if you can give me an idea of where to start i would be greatful
[13:33] <jgdovin> grateful*
[13:34] <cfhowlett> jgdovin, perhaps a good question for #ubuntu-server ...
[13:34] <jgdovin> thanks
[13:34] <xzcvczx> shafox: why such an old version?
[13:34] <dr_willis> and file a support ticket with the VPS provider
[13:34] <bekks> jgdovin: dns issue.
[13:35] <shafox> bekks: updated gist https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/5378417
[13:35] <xzcvczx> jgdovin: route -n
[13:35] <bekks> shafox: You should manually install a reasonable safe version. Your version isnt.
[13:35] <shafox> xzcvczx: coz i am having a very old laptop. will be switching to xubuntu after one month when this will be in no more supported
[13:35] <xzcvczx> see if there is a default route
[13:36] <jgdovin> 0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         0.0.0.0         U     0      0        0 venet0
[13:36] <jgdovin> herm..
[13:36] <shafox> bekks: manually? can't i add repos and install from there that would be error free right??
[13:36] <jgdovin> looks like no default route
[13:36] <xzcvczx> jgdovin: lol, check for the network settings from your provider
[13:36] <e-v-o> xzcvczx, rebooting did the trick
[13:36] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this
[13:36] <bekks> shafox: No software on this planet is error free. You should just update to 1.6.0_43 at least - or just use the latest 1.7 version.
[13:37] <jgdovin> xzcvczx: this is a vps, i guess i need to get this info from them
[13:37] <xzcvczx> yup
[13:37] <shafox> bekks: no updates are coming for java :(
[13:37] <bekks> shafox: Then manually install... - I just told you :P
[13:37] <shafox> shall i again go with the help.ubuntu.com/community/java to install java 1.7 ??
[13:38] <xzcvczx> shafox: try using synaptic
[13:38] <delocaz> So... My computer still won't boot past the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10" and has 4 dots from the live CD. It is now randomly flashing between movable cursor and black screen. Is it because it doesn't have enough RAM (it has 1gb). I'm trying to install Xubuntu
[13:38] <bekks> xzcvczx: Synaptics doe the same as apt-get
[13:38] <xzcvczx> bekks: yeah but its a nice and pretty gui
[13:38] <xzcvczx> bekks: well its a gui
[13:38] <bekks> xzcvczx: Which is unneeded for "apt-get install packagename" :P
[13:39] <bekks> shafox: Drop your version and manuall install the latest 1.7 version or use the PPA mentioned in that article.
[13:40] <shafox> bekks: there is no ppa on that page. there is though the .deb installer file
[13:41] <bekks> shafox: There is a PPA on that page. I can see it.
[13:41] <DylanCl> streaming() {
[13:41] <DylanCl>    INRES="1440x900"
[13:41] <DylanCl> Woops, sorryu
[13:41] <delocaz> So nobody can help me?
[13:41] <dr_willis> delocaz:  sounds like X is crashing over and over again.
[13:42] <dr_willis> delocaz:  1gb is plenty.  tell the channel your video cartd
[13:42] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this
[13:42] <Inspiral> I have an issue with my graphics card crashing the desktop with a garbled display every 4-6 hours, if i reset using the reset switch or reboot via reisub artifacts remain on screen/locks up. I must physically disconnect the power cable or use the power switch on the PSU to get things working again correctly (fishy?). I have tried with nouvou drivers and propriety i have a geforce 210
[13:42] <bekks> shafox: "1.Using webupd8.org's strikingly simple method. " -- thats basically a PPA.
[13:42] <Inspiral> is this card screwed or is it something else ?
[13:42] <delocaz> dr_willis: I have no idea... It's integrated something I think.
[13:43] <delocaz> and setting it to nomodeset doesn't help
[13:43] <shafox> bekks: let me give that a try
[13:43] <shafox> bekks: should i purge the openjdk first or on top of that i will install ? ?
[13:43] <bekks> shafox: I told you to, yes.
[13:43] <Inspiral> also, I can force the crash by running sensors-detect - which crashes upon reaching the gpu section
[13:43] <dr_willis> delocaz:  time to look up the exact make and model on the ubuntu forums and askubuntu.com i guess. and see if anyone else has issues.. the pc makers homepage will also give some info on its specs
[13:44] <delocaz> dr_willis: I have no idea what the card is, as I can't open the live cd... Also, I got it second-hand from work
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Inspiral, install the nvidia-current driver , then reboot
[13:45] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: purge the sensors stuff?
[13:45] <Inspiral> BluesKaj: i have tried with it
[13:45] <Inspiral> its not sensors crashing it
[13:45] <xzcvczx> lmsensors or lm-sensors?
[13:45] <Inspiral> it does it regardless
[13:45] <Inspiral> lm-sensors
[13:45] <xzcvczx> oh
[13:45] <dr_willis> !text | delocaz
[13:45] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: try reseating card
[13:45] <Inspiral> ok i can try that
[13:45] <Inspiral> anything else you can suggest?
[13:45] <dr_willis> delocaz:  try text mode. see what lspci says about the hardware i guess. or open it up if its a desktop and look.
[13:45] <Inspiral> specifically to work out if it really is hardware fault
[13:46] <delocaz> ubottu: it isn't installed... Can't even get Ubiquity running so it's off a live CD
[13:46] <delocaz> bah
[13:46] <BluesKaj> xzcvczx, could be right , Inspiral , your card  could be working loose as it warms up
[13:46] <dexter_> I'm a computer science student and would like to join Getting things Gnome's mailing list.
[13:47] <dexter_> In order to be able to contribute to OPW
[13:47] <bekks> dexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?
[13:47] <Iszak> I'm trying to use duplicity with an include filelist, however I can't get it to exclude all .git directories nested, I've tried "- **/.git/" ,"- **/.git/**" "- **/.git" any help is appreciated
[13:48] <Inspiral> off to reboot to hit this card with a mallet then :)
[13:48] <yumaokao> quit
[13:48] <xzcvczx> Inspiral: sledgehammers are easier
[13:48] <xzcvczx> require less input force just more lifting force
[13:49] <cfhowlett> dexter_, so why tell us?
[13:50] <dexter_> I'm trying to participate in OPW and considering to work on Gnome
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> what's opw?
[13:51] <bekks> dexter_: How is that related to Ubuntu then?
[13:51] <Robi33000> Hello, I need USB version suppurt
[13:51] <cfhowlett> dexter_, this is ubuntu.  not OPW or Gnome.  continue your search
[13:51] <DJones> !contribute | dexter_
[13:51] <dexter_> thank you
[13:51] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: USB version support?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Robi33000  sounds strange, but ask your question
[13:54] <hhasan> ne oluyor simdi
[13:55] <sprlhzl> how can i list all physical hard drives attached to my ubuntu server?
[13:56] <Carlos30> Hi, one question, if I install the beta 2 of ubuntu 13.04, when the final version leave should i reinstalling or upgrading would not be necessary?
[13:57] <contrapunctus> NataLia is spamming links of claimed pornography =\
[13:57] <contrapunctus> (via PM)
[13:57] <delocaz> dr_willis: All I can get from lspci is "Silicon Integrated"
[13:57] <cfhowlett> !ops|NataLia,
[13:58] <sebazato> Hi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have since experiencing a problem: approximately one out of two times that I try to turn it on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?
[13:58] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to create custom right click menu additions for certain folders?
[13:58] <sonOfRa> I know dropbox does this somehow, so I guess it is possible
[14:00] <delocaz> When I try to install Xubuntu 12.10, it boots up to the screen that says "Xubuntu 12.10   . . . . ", then blackscreens and flashes a cursor off and on.
[14:00] <delocaz> Haven't gotten into Ubiquity yet
[14:00] <sebazato> I tried using older kernel versions, didn't work
[14:00] <jephb> hi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?
[14:01] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Do you get the first gui with choices like tryout install check memory?
[14:01] <jephb> hi, i have downloaded  debian-live-6.0.7-amd64-kde-desktop.img     but i have no idea bout how to extract it to make bootable from the usb. any help?
[14:02] <xzcvczx> jephb: might be better to ask in #debian
[14:02] <cfhowlett> jephb, probably want to ask about that in debian .... :)
[14:02] <sebazato> almost forgot, before stalling on the black screen, an error message flashes for less than a second, saying "kvm- disabled by BIOS"
[14:02] <jephb> thank let me try
[14:02] <shafox> bekks & xzcvczx: I installed java 7 and its working good. :)
[14:02] <jirido> Hi. Im in to install lubuntu 13.10 beta 2.. will i be able to upgrade that one to 13.10 without reinstall?
[14:02] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: yes, I do.
[14:03] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Take a look here on using f6 there to choose nomodeset. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[14:03] <coffe> Hello, would need some helt getting my soundcard working .. having a cm8888 chip . found this http://markmail.org/thread/c4amw54bo7z5jzzv but dont know what to do with it
[14:04] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I have tried that, but it didn't help. Some other person said it might be because X crashes again and again?
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I would check the md5sum of the ISO.
[14:04] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[14:05] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Been there, done that. The ISO is perfectly fine, and the disc verification says it's fine too
[14:06] <sebazato> Hi, I have a problem, and I hope someone could be of help: I run Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP Folio !3, 4gb RAM, I5 processor. A week ago I downloaded some updates, and I have been experiencing a problem since: approximately half the times that I try to turn the laptop on, the screen goes black with only a little cursor flashing on the upper-left corner, and it stops loading Ubuntu. RAM and hard-disk are okay. Any idea what it could be?
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Cool, not sure beyond that, if it were me I would probably check the computer on the web and hardware in general and the install media.
[14:06] <wilee-nilee> on this install release=media
[14:17] <ThomasM_> Hello again everybody now i try to explain my problem in one line.
[14:17] <ThomasM_> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=
[14:18] <falcom> hello ubuntu user. What terminals do you guys use?
[14:18] <bekks> falcom: Is that a poll?
[14:22] <falcom> bekks: sort of, im hating the default one as i feel like it's missing some basic features (like search)
[14:22] <bekks> !poll > falcom
[14:22] <xzcvczx> falcom: search in what way?
[14:23] <bekks> falcom: I never needed to search something using the terminals capabilities - I just use find, grep, awk, sed, etc. when being in dire need of "searching".
[14:23] <xzcvczx> i never new terminals had the ability to "search"
[14:23] <trap23> my software centre  closes without any error when i try to open it. using 12.04. was trying to install "Gnaural"
[14:23] <ThomasM> Hello again. I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}
[14:23] <xzcvczx> s/new/knew/
[14:23] <xzcvczx> trap23: try running from the command line and seeing what the error is?
[14:25] <trap23> xzcvczx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704859/
[14:25] <xzcvczx> trap23: cd /var/lib/apt
[14:26] <xzcvczx> trap23: sudo mv lists lists.old
[14:26] <xzcvczx> sudo apt-get update
[14:26] <trap23> xzcvczx: why does occurred ?
[14:27] <xzcvczx> trap23: there was a solar flare while you were updating your package lists
[14:28] <trap23> xzcvczx: thanks, will not do update during flares ;)
[14:28] <xzcvczx> trap23: good idea
[14:29] <ThomasM> Dont know if message was send so i give it another try the last one:
[14:30] <ThomasM> I have strange problem by creating symlinks via udev rules on Ubuntu 12.10.The following rule works fine to create a symlink from a ttyACM device:KERNEL=="ttyACM[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="1ffb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0089", MODE="0666", OWNER="thomas", SYMLINK+="ttyServo". Now I want to do the same for a ttyUSB device in my case its a FTDI USB to TTL Converter: KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATT
[14:30] <ThomasM> okay didnt worked ...#
[14:30] <xzcvczx> ThomasM: try ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx as is it a symlink already?
[14:30] <sprezzatura> am not able to install postgres on 11.10. says 'unable to locate packages'. any help?
[14:30] <xzcvczx> sprezzatura: apt-get update
[14:31] <sprezzatura> xzcvczx: did that
[14:31] <xzcvczx> sprezzatura: apt-cache search postgres
[14:32] <sprezzatura> xzcvczx: thanks. i didnt know about that
[14:32] <slinnky> sprezzatura, now you do!
[14:32] <sprezzatura> it so happens that i had to mention postgresql-9.1
[14:32] <xzcvczx> :)
[14:33] <azbarcea> hi guys, how can I install boost 1.49 or 1.51 to ubuntu 12.04, when there isn't in repository?
[14:33] <trap23> xzcvczx: it really was a flare, just during the trying to fetch package information, the website went offline. and corrupted my lists
[14:34] <xzcvczx> trap23: see... its always them damn flares
[14:34] <trap23> xzcvczx: yes, rare occurrences
[14:34] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: apt-cache search boost
[14:34] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: its libboost*
[14:35] <ThomasM> xzcvczx: ls -l /dev/ttyUSBx returns crw-rw-rw- 1 thomas dialout 188, 0 Apr 13 13:48 /dev/ttyUSB0
[14:35] <ThomasM> i am not sure but is the device ttyUSB0 already linked to /dev/ttyUSB0
[14:35] <ThomasM> is this an existing symlink??
[14:35] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: i know that ... but I can't find >= 1.49
[14:36] <xzcvczx> what version is it?
[14:36] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: libboost1.48-all-dev
[14:36] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: and libboost1.46-dev ... but that one is too old
[14:36] <xzcvczx> wow... you are up a creak without a paddle then aren't you
[14:36] <xzcvczx> creek
[14:37] <xzcvczx> try launchpad otherwise you may need to wait for +1
[14:37] <carlos_> does anyone know of an alternative to libre office that works as good as MS office?
[14:37] <xzcvczx> define "works as good"
[14:37] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: 1.49 is on quantal and raring ... not on 12.04 :(
[14:38] <xzcvczx> as i find libre office works as good as ms office for everything i need it for
[14:38] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: oh yeah that is one problem with lts's
[14:38] <DylanCl> Hello. I'm using a script to stream to www.twitch.tv, it works perfectly(for me), but I want it to show a box for my resolution. For example: I want to stream in 720p, the box should be 720p so I can place my game screen in there. Can anybody(that knows how to code in .sh language) help me out with this please.
[14:38] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: :(
[14:38] <carlos_> i tried opening a spreadsheet and the formulas and macros don't work, i then tried on MS office and it works fine.
[14:38] <azbarcea> carlos_: Google Apps ... but what doesn't suits for you libreOffice?
[14:39] <bekks> carlos_: Thats expected. MS Office macros wont work in non-MS-Office products.
[14:39] <xzcvczx> carlos_: hmm i have never had an issue with formulas in libre but macros aren't the best\
[14:40] <azbarcea> carlos_: you may install MS Office on windows using wine
[14:41] <carlos_> at first I thought it was the spreadsheet but then I booted to windows and ran the same spreadsheet on MS office and it worked fine.
[14:41] <xzcvczx> carlos_: well as bekks said, macros don't really work outside ms
[14:41] <azbarcea> carlos_: There are some macros, and formulas that work ONLY in MS, because of the dlls referenced. And if the macros use VBA, than it is obvious why it doesn't work
[14:42] <bekks> carlos_: As already said, thats totally expected.
[14:42] <carlos_> I haven't tried wine ms office yet. maybe that my solution
[14:43] <carlos_> I have permanently switch to ubuntu and rather not go to windows for MS office
[14:43] <ThomasM> SO after trying to post one line with my problem explanation i will try the paste method:
[14:43] <ThomasM> I Have problems with the udev rules:
[14:43] <ThomasM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704916/
[14:43] <wilee-nilee> carlos_, If you have a dual boot I would not bother with wine and word.
[14:43] <ThomasM> Here i have descipted the situations
[14:44] <ThomasM> plaese have a look at it thank ypou very much
[14:45] <carlos_> wilee-nilee_ so you suggest just using windows then? I do have a dual boot but I only use it for itunes because I have an iphone.
[14:48] <wilee-nilee> carlos_, I was referring to the MS word.
[14:49] <azbarcea> xzcvczx: it appears I have to compile boost myself ... :)
[14:49] <wilee-nilee> your choice though I write grad papers so I'm biased as far as stability and full use carlos_
[14:50] <xzcvczx> azbarcea: lol, good ol' boost
[14:50] <azbarcea> :D
[14:50] <ThomasM> xzcvczx i think you are the most active person here so i will send you again my information about my udev problem its described here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5704916/
[14:52] <xzcvczx> ThomasM: well is /dev/ttyUSBx a symlink to elsewhere?
[14:54] <wilee-nilee> ThomasM, You are lucky some find be directly asks for help with contacting you first not a good policy, I would ignore you. ;)
[14:56] <damnick> hi , i use ubuntu 12.10 and when i try to enter at recovery concose the boot stops at: kvm: Nested Paging enabled
[14:57] <damnick> what can i do to boot normally?
[14:57] <ThomasM> xzcvczx /dev/ttyUSBx is not a symlink i want to create a symlink like /dev/ttyRoboclaw which links the device /dev/ttyUSB0. Hope i understand your question right
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> ThomasM  consider asking in #bash
[14:58] <ThomasM> wilee-nilee I didnt understand what you said?
[14:58] <delocaz> Can anyone help me with installing Xubuntu? It only boots to the screen that has "Xubuntu 12.10" and 4 blinking dots. Then goes to a black screen and randomly flashes a cursor on and off. I have tried: nomodeset
[14:59] <ThomasM> MonkeyDust thanks I will also try it in #bash
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> !details > delocaz
[15:00] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Sorry wrong nick my bad
[15:01] <Funktipus> Hi
[15:01] <wilee-nilee> !details > damnick
[15:02] <Funktipus> I just installed lubuntu on a computer that was sitting in my garage for most of the winter.
[15:02] <Funktipus> Is there any cool things i can do with a fairly old computer?
[15:03] <delocaz> Funktipus: You could set up a web server
[15:03] <xzcvczx> lol worst question ever
[15:03] <xzcvczx> Funktipus: you can take the cpu hsf off and see how long it takes to catch fire :P
[15:03] <delocaz> :P
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> !tasksel | Funktipus
[15:09] <ericbradatsch> hi i have problems mounting a remote filesystem with chmod 777
[15:09] <ericbradatsch> can anybody help me out?
[15:09] <dr_willis> give us more details ericbradatsch .
[15:10] <ericbradatsch> i am mounting via fstab //192.168.0.208/TAS/files /var/www/TAS/files cifs username=...,password=...,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0777,defaults 0 0
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> ericbradatsch  chmod 777 is NOT a good idea
[15:10] <dr_willis> err.. umask is not the same as the modes.
[15:10] <ericbradatsch> and when i do ls -l it shows drwxr-xr-x  1 service service          0 Apr 13 17:05 files
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> uh :/
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> dr_willis: what do i have to put there?
[15:11] <dr_willis> theres also the fmask and dmask options.
[15:11] <ericbradatsch> MonkeyDust: I know - but there are different users accessing the folder
[15:12] <colleenA> hello there I am trying to turn off touch pad taping but no matter what I do it is not turning off. my bf told me to try dconf-editor and gnome-control-panel but gnome-con... has no touchpad section undere mouse and touchpad and dconf-editor I have clicked on disable tap-to-click but still nothing. thanks
[15:12] <ericbradatsch> dr_willis: one sec gonna google ist
[15:12] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> ericbradatsch  and all these users can change whatever they want, also lock you out from access
[15:12] <dr_willis> theres like 4 books on samba with examples in that samba-doc package also. ;)
[15:13] <ericbradatsch> MonkeyDust: hmmm… thats a good point. i should think about my access level system :) - thats the problem when you do it in the beginning you leave it like that :)
[15:14] <ericbradatsch> or which useraccount / userid does apache user
[15:14] <ericbradatsch> since this folder is mostly used by apache
[15:15] <xzcvczx> errrr don't 777 stuff that apaches running on
[15:15] <xzcvczx> well visible to apache
[15:15] <KxTwo> Hey guys I want to start playing around with java and making android apps.  Should I just use the default version of eclipse that can be downloaded through the software center?
[15:15] <xzcvczx> thats a BAD_IDEA(tm)
[15:15] <DWSR> If I'm uninstalling stuff, can I tell Apt to not uninstall e2fsprogs somehow?
[15:15] <xzcvczx> KxTwo: no use the android sdk
[15:15] <DWSR> Like, if I'm purging a bunch of desktop stuff, it's telling me I've selected e2fsprogs.
[15:15] <tekk> guys, i'm getting strange behaviour / crashes / panics on ubuntu... finally have managed to get some logs / messages out the box... here's what it says http://pastebin.com/ePUiXTLQ do you think its bad RAM ?
[15:16] <KxTwo> xzcvczx, the android sdk is just an add on for eclipse
[15:16] <xzcvczx> DWSR: then you are nuking something that e2fsprogs needs
[15:16] <colleenA> KxTwo adt comes with eclisop
[15:16] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Yeah, I got a list of packages from apt that it's trying to remove because they're marked essential.
[15:16] <ericbradatsch> back in a min
[15:16] <DWSR> xzcvczx: How can I say "remove everything not marked essential that matches these masks"
[15:17] <xzcvczx> DWSR: well what exactly are you trying to achieve?
[15:17] <DWSR> apt-get purge speech* plymouth* saned* gluster* modemmanager* lightdm*
[15:17] <bekks> KxTwo: Manually install eclipse, and do the same for the android sdk.
[15:17] <DWSR> Remove a bunch of desktop stuff.
[15:17] <xzcvczx> KxTwo: i am pretty sure i have seen sdk packages that include eclipse
[15:17] <DWSR> xzcvczx: ^^
[15:17] <xzcvczx> DWSR: why are you trying to nuke lightdm... what have you replaced it with?
[15:17] <DWSR> I'm not running a DM.
[15:18] <KxTwo> Ok I am not worried too much about the android side of thigns that is easy to set up with eclipse I am trying to figure out what version of eclipse to use
[15:18] <xzcvczx> DWSR: so you are not running a gui?
[15:18] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Nope.
[15:18] <KxTwo> bekks, what version do you recommend?
[15:18] <bekks> DWSR: Then how do you startx?
[15:18] <DWSR> bekks: I don't.
[15:18] <bekks> KxTwo: The latest stable.
[15:18] <xzcvczx> DWSR: then why are you not running ubuntu server?
[15:18] <DWSR> xzcvczx: I converted this machine and don't feel like reinstalling Ubuntu.
[15:18] <bekks> DWSR: Then why are you afraid of uninstalling desktop stuff when not running a desktop?
[15:18] <DWSR> bekks: I'm not. I don't want to remove e2fsprogs.
[15:19] <bekks> DWSR: Then install them again, afterwards.
[15:19] <xzcvczx> well you are more likely to get yourself into trouble trying to nuke out all the desktop stuff than just reinstalling if its to become a server
[15:19] <DWSR> xzcvczx: Humour me.
[15:19] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can boot without X if you like see /msg ubottu !nox
[15:19] <colleenA> for startx auto when user logs in add if statement to .bashrc that say if display is = ttyy1 then startx
[15:19] <KxTwo> bekks, it doesnt list that way on the Dl page
[15:19] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm already booting without X.
[15:19] <DWSR> IdleOne: X isn't even installed.
[15:19] <bekks> KxTwo: It does. It lists several editions of the latest stable, e.g.
[15:19] <IdleOne> yeah, was a legacy figure of speech
[15:19] <IdleOne> :)
[15:19] <KxTwo> like right now I downloaded the IDE for java ide developers
[15:20] <bekks> KxTwo: Then just use it.
[15:20] <DWSR> !nox
[15:20] <KxTwo> ok im not sure what you are looking at but it doesnt list it that way
[15:20] <murosai> how can i copy file contents into clipboard using commandline?
[15:21] <KxTwo> and there was no installation either I simply run it from the extracted folder
[15:21] <IdleOne> DWSR: what I mean was that you can boot with a GUI, it won't remove all the desktop packages but if they are not in use they don't use any memory and like xzcvczx said it will save you a lot of possible hassle.
[15:21] <xzcvczx> murosai: in console or terminal?
[15:21] <IdleOne> without*
[15:21] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm running into space restrictions.
[15:21] <DWSR> IdleOne: So, again, humour me.
[15:21] <murosai> terminal
[15:21] <xzcvczx> murosai: select it right click copy
[15:21] <zykotick9> DWSR: it is possible to mark a package as manually installed, then apt won't remove it if it's a dependency for some other metapackage, or pulled in by another installed package.  BUT if you remove a dependency it has, obviously, it's gotta go.  good luck.  (starting from mini.iso, and not installing and *desktop metapackages would make a lot more sence to me)
[15:22] <murosai> i said using using command line
[15:22] <KxTwo> ahh the adt bundle includes eclipse
[15:22] <IdleOne> zykotick9: he wants to remove Unity, I am not sure if it is possible to do without problems
[15:22] <DWSR> zykotick9: How do I mark them? It's 5 or 6 packages. I'll mark them then remove what I'm nuking.
[15:22] <xzcvczx> murosai: well run vi <file> then it will be in command line and copy paste a page at a time
[15:23] <KxTwo> ok I gues im past it being an ubuntu question now, thanks for the help
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> who wants to remove unity? simply install something else, or download a different iso
[15:23] <zykotick9> IdleOne: i agree with you!
[15:23] <DWSR> MonkeyDust: I'm converting the system without reinstalling.
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> DWSR  then simply install some other DE, logout, change, login
[15:24] <DWSR> MonkeyDust: Nox.
[15:24] <xzcvczx> DWSR: your space saving will also not be as great as you believe it will be
[15:24] <eltigre> hey I would like to upgrade to 13.04, but I can't, because all blogs/instructions I found want to do that with  update-manager -d and that won't let me upgrade to 13.04
[15:24] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can try http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu just don't do the install KDE part
[15:24] <DWSR> xzcvczx: 50% of system space.
[15:25] <DWSR> It's plenty large enough, thank you
[15:25] <DWSR> Alright.
[15:25] <DWSR> Fine, let's try this.
[15:25] <zykotick9> DWSR: you can try "aptitude unmarkauto foopackage", but i think you're headed for disaster...
[15:25] <wilee-nilee> eltigre, What is the release you are running?
[15:25] <IdleOne> I suggest you have a Live USB handy if/when you need to do a clean install.
[15:25] <eltigre> wilee-nilee, 12.10
[15:25] <colleenA> DWSR: run dpkg -l then awk or grep or sed iut out then push to file. then go into file take out packages that you want and run a while loop that say on every new line of file run apt-get --purge remove $line
[15:25] <iUnify> Hey guys, I had a few questions the other day, but, no one was around.  Well, today things have gotten a bit more serious.  My system is teetering on the edge.  I've been getting critical system errors non-stop (no freezes) and now there is the little blinking line (like in DOS for when you are going to type, ...or terminal.
[15:25] <DWSR> sudo 'Can you help me select all packages matching the following masks but $foo'?
[15:25] <`Z`> hi
[15:26] <DWSR> Don't give me grief, answer my question, please and thank you. I'm aware of the risks.
[15:26] <prp-e> Hi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session
[15:26] <prp-e> Hi everybody :) tonight (23:00 - Tehran Time) - ##jabirproject channel , JabirOS birthday session
[15:26] <iUnify> In the top left corner of the screen.... everything is getting stuck, the window outlines, the mouse is clicking on its own everywhere
[15:26] <DWSR> Imagine I'm just appending every question with --force.
[15:26] <xzcvczx> iUnify: maybe an exorcist :P
[15:26] <wilee-nilee> eltigre, I would wait for it to be released, this problem alone makes one wonder if you can't get around it without help if you are making a wise decision. ;)
[15:26] <iUnify> and, ive no clue what to do other than re-install which i did once already and wiped free space.... soooo, hoping somone has some insight?
[15:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: run top and see what your resource usage is doing
[15:27] <iUnify> ahhh, it's possessed!  Great, now I need an exorcist....
[15:27] <`Z`> Im using a Ubuntu 12.10 on a HP envy m6 laptop. I had some problem with the wifi card. I got it working by installing the rt3290 firmware and loading ath5k module. But I still can not connect to secured networks, it always say invalid password. Can someone help ?
[15:27] <eltigre> wilee-nilee, you are arrogant
[15:27] <xzcvczx> eltigre: no, hes honest
[15:27] <iUnify> ok, im new to linux, how do i run this this through terminal?
[15:27] <eltigre> wilee-nilee, it was a simple question, I don't need babysitting
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> eltigre  behave please
[15:28] <xzcvczx> iUnify: type in "top"
[15:28] <iUnify> thought so, thanks  :)
[15:28] <xzcvczx> iUnify: oh and hit return
[15:28] <xzcvczx> return/enter
[15:28] <eltigre> it's not that much more polite to answer a simple honest question with "you are too stupid to do that..."
[15:28] <bekks> `Z`: rt2390 sounds like a realtek chipset - ath5k is atheros, not realtek.
[15:29] <iUnify>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S  %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[15:29] <iUnify>  2182 marco     20   0 1588m 280m  35m S  28.2  3.6  35:52.66 compiz
[15:29] <iUnify>  1267 root      20   0  337m 100m  10m S   8.9  1.3   6:22.99 Xorg
[15:29] <iUnify>  5903 marco     20   0  524m  19m  11m S   4.0  0.3   0:00.95 gnome-terminal
[15:29] <iUnify>  4683 marco     20   0 1029m 192m  41m S   3.6  2.4   1:05.78 firefox
[15:29] <FloodBot1> iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:29] <xzcvczx> `Z`: lspci and pastebin it
[15:29] <`Z`> kk
[15:29] <xzcvczx> iUnify: yeah don't paste into here
[15:29] <IdleOne> DWSR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705029/ would be the command but like the warning on the psychocats page says, I am not responsible and you should have a full backup.
[15:29] <`Z`> wait, let me try to load manually the rt firmware
[15:29] <`Z`> It will maybe work.
[15:29] <`Z`> brb
[15:29] <iUnify> sorry about that.... didn't realize.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: don't post it just leave it running an watch it when your computer goes nuts
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: Thank you. It's uninstalling some kernel modules that I was using, but heh.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> and you may see your cpu spikes
[15:30] <iUnify> gotcha, it's consistently nuts
[15:30] <iUnify> logging me off
[15:30] <IdleOne> DWSR: you can always reinstall those after
[15:30] <iUnify> going black
[15:30] <xzcvczx> or ram maybe its using swap
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: Yeah, I'm ok with that.
[15:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: maybe disconnect it from the network and see whether it keeps doing the smae thing
[15:30] <DWSR> IdleOne: I'm basically trying to strip everything down as much as possible to shove the system onto a 4GB memstick.
[15:31] <iUnify> you really think it could be the internet?
[15:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no, it could be a rootkit/virus or something but i am not sure
[15:31] <iUnify> okay, but, disconnecting would show me that?
[15:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: or you just have funky hardware
[15:32] <xzcvczx> well yeah if its not connected the bad poltergeist can't cause issues for you
[15:32] <xzcvczx> as poltergeists require the internet to be able to communicate with computers
[15:32] <iUnify> gotcha
[15:32] <iUnify> let me see, brb
[15:32] <Robi33000> i need to install ubuntu for usb
[15:32] <esdf> anyone know why nautilus 3.8 segfaults whenever I click the search button or ctrl+l?
[15:32] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: #define instlal ubuntu for usb
[15:32] <DWSR> IdleOne: Again, thank you for just telling me the answer to my question. I realize the need to warn most users, but when I say I understand the risks, I really do mean it.
[15:33] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: if you mean you need to make a liveUSB to install ubuntu then say that
[15:33] <IdleOne> DWSR: sure thing. Hope it works for you.
[15:33] <iUnify> still issues
[15:33] <elielton> oi
[15:33] <xzcvczx> iUnify: install kazam and record some and upload it to youtube so we can get a laugh out of it
[15:34] <IdleOne> !usb | Robi33000
[15:34] <wilee-nilee> Robi33000, Is it a full install to a usb, or a ISO loaded to install on a computer.
[15:34] <iUnify> is this going to help solve anything or for pure comical value?
[15:34] <`Z`> so
[15:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: potentially, might allow us to see whats going on
[15:34] <GTAXL> Are the repositories the same for Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu server? Just curious, cuz I'm running server applications off Ubuntu Desktop..
[15:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: leave top open and visible though
[15:34] <iUnify> right on, I really appreciate the help
[15:34] <`Z`> Im already loading the rt3290sta module on boot, with /etc/module, appended rt3290sta
[15:34] <IdleOne> GTAXL: yes
[15:34] <`Z`> here is my lscpi
[15:34] <GTAXL> ok
[15:34] <iUnify> i figured, cool, thx
[15:34] <GTAXL> thanks
[15:35] <xzcvczx> iUnify: thats not to say we won't be laughing though
[15:35] <iUnify> lol, as you should be.
[15:35] <`Z`> http://pastebin.com/pCgTSEy2
[15:35] <DWSR> IdleOne: This command uninstalls build-essentials.
[15:35] <DWSR> IdleOne: Yuck.
[15:35] <IdleOne> DWSR: it will, no biggie.
[15:36] <DWSR> IdleOne: Indeed. Still though
[15:36] <`Z`> here is my rfkill : http://pastebin.com/hvyAKbe4
[15:36] <`Z`> nothing suspect
[15:36] <DWSR> IdleOne: Surprised that a command that I would consider to be a 'power user' command would remove autotools.
[15:36] <`Z`> I can scan wifi using iwlist, and it scan and detect the encryption correctly using wicd
[15:37] <iUnify> xxvczczx: Any suggestions for a YouCam alternative (webcam app)... I record songs I play on guitar and evwntually need something.
[15:37] <IdleOne> DWSR: this is why we suggested doing a clean install. the command will remove some packages that you would not expect to be removed.
[15:37] <Robi33000> i need to install ubuntu but the USB dont boot
[15:37] <`Z`> I think it may be a problem with the encryption stuff, since I can connect perfectly to unsecured network and having problems with the secured ones
[15:37] <Robi33000> can you elp
[15:37] <Robi33000> help
[15:37] <oh> Hey, im having trouble with my samba share, newly created files/directorys over smb share will only have 'xr' permission when created via network. I already set the create mask and directory mask(in smb.conf) to 0775 but that does not work, maybe someone can tell me what im doing wrong here
[15:37] <Smashcat> Anyone used an OCZ Agility 4 SSD in Ubuntu. Getting slow speeds from latest install. Got 2 machines, virtually identical except the new one has double the RAM (32GB) and a faster CPU (i7 9770K vs i5 3740). Both have the same MB and boot/OS SSD. The i5 one reports reads of 412MB/sec (10.9GB.sec cached), writes of 429MB/sec. New one reads 410MB/sec (9GB/sec cached), writes 262MB/sec. New...
[15:37] <Smashcat> ...machine should really be quicker.
[15:37] <xzcvczx> `Z`: hmm odd i can't even see your wifi device in lspci
[15:37] <IdleOne> Robi33000: make sure that your BIOS are set to boot from USB
[15:37] <`Z`> yeah, you do, see the line with device 3290 xzcvczx
[15:37] <xzcvczx> iUnify: cheese? does it do video?
[15:38] <iUnify> xzvczczx: i think i looked for cheese with no luck
[15:38] <`Z`> it's a realtek 3290 :)
[15:38] <xzcvczx> `Z`: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:38] <`Z`> 12.10
[15:38] <DWSR> IdleOne: Again, I am aware of the risks, which is why I'm not doing this command as a purge.
[15:38] <kb3gtn> `Z`: possible solution for ralink wifi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104129
[15:39] <xzcvczx> oh: mask != mode
[15:39] <DWSR> IdleOne: Is there a ubuntu-server meta package?
[15:39] <`Z`> kb3gtn, already done
[15:39] <oh> okay i will look into that, thanks
[15:39] <`Z`> that's how I got my card detected
[15:39] <`Z`> Then it was "hard locked" in rfkill
[15:39] <iUnify> recording... hopefully my computer acts up as usual, thus far nothing... such is my life!
[15:40] <IdleOne> DWSR: I don't believe there is
[15:40] <`Z`> I found some workaround to solve this problem
[15:41] <DWSR> IdleOne: if I want to boot the box to text only mode, is there a grub CLI utility for this or can I just sudoedit
[15:42] <IdleOne> the !nox factoid tells you how
[15:45] <`Z`> ok I think im going to get back on debian.
[15:45] <sdrhrgjkng> I have a problem... My mouse has developed free will. It instantly moves large distances across the screen every so often. I've tried the mouse on windows so it isn't the mouse. This didn't used to happen.
[15:45] <DWSR> IdleOne: No, it doesn't. It links to a page where the sectino header has been removed. The factoid needs updating.
[15:45] <iUnify> xzvczczx: it wont record.  everytime i look back "record" needs to be clicked again
[15:45] <iUnify> but, it starts and says its about to record...5....4...3..2...1
[15:46] <thinkinhurtz> I created a new users on my system, and now I can not launch libreoffice as any user due to permission error... any help?
[15:46] <GA89> hi. need help, installed updates, restarted pc and it just froze  so i shut it down and now ubuntu doesnt load
[15:46] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: well whats the persmiision error?
[15:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: hmm odd
[15:46] <iUnify> yaaa
[15:46] <GA89> error loading shared libraries,
[15:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: try booting from a livecd and see whether same behaviour is experienced
[15:47] <thinkinhurtz> it just doesn't launch, but forum posts suggest permission problem.
[15:47] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: try launching from command line
[15:47] <iUnify> so, when i installed ubuntu i had it on usb, you mean, boot from there?  or restart and...?
[15:47] <xzcvczx> yeah
[15:48] <xzcvczx> just use the live version
[15:48] <culpn8r> i am trying to connect my wireless but i get "ERROR: Module b43 does not exist in /proc/modules". i never had this issue until i recently upgraded to linux-headers-3.5.0-27-generic on 12.10
[15:48] <GA89> any suggestion? should i reinstall?
[15:48] <iUnify> ok be back in a few, again, thx for the help
[15:48] <thinkinhurtz> no launch, no error message. cant find a verbose option
[15:48] <thinkinhurtz> libre will launch from the command line with sudo however
[15:49] <xzcvczx> culpn8r: sudo modprobe b43
[15:49] <culpn8r> xzcvczx run that before installing the bcmwl-kernel-source?
[15:49] <xzcvczx> culpn8r: well b43 is rubbish anyway, try running jockey or whatever and install the restricted driver for your wifi
[15:50] <xzcvczx> thinkinhurtz: well if you have managed to nuke your libreoffice permissions i find it very unlikely all you did was add some users to your system
[15:50] <culpn8r> xzcvczx: ive tried using the one in the restricted drivers menu but that doesnt work either. i also have to manually start networking with 'sudo dhclient eth0' just to get ethernet working
[15:51] <iUnify> OK, I didn't get a chance to start live but restart fixed some weirdness.... again, got the system program error right away again... which i get frequently.
[15:52] <betrayd> iUnify: i think its best you follow the advice to run Live
[15:52] <betrayd> bec. he has a plan in troubleshooting your original problem
[15:52] <xzcvczx> iUnify: did you md5sum your image before you burned/usb'd it?
[15:53] <Takagami> Anyone know if the current beta of Elementary OS supports UEFI?
[15:53] <iUnify> very possibly not as I don't know what that means.
[15:53] <xzcvczx> Takagami: maybe ask in the elemenatry chat room?
[15:53] <Takagami> I did... it's pretty dead in there today
[15:54] <Takagami> I would assume as it is based off the ubuntu core and uses the same installer core...
[15:54] <oh> When a directory is created with a mask 0775, then group should have write permission correct ?
[15:54] <Takagami> Just wondering if anyone uses it on a UEFI system... or has had experience in here..
[15:54] <xzcvczx> well we are not to know how much divergence there is so not willing to say yay or nay
[15:54] <xzcvczx> oh: nope
[15:55] <Takagami> Thanks anyways... guess I will just give it a shot when it finished downloading...
[15:55] <Robi33000> I need to boot from USB the 12
[15:55] <Robi33000> Can you help me
[15:55] <Robi33000> I need to boot from USB the 12
[15:55] <Robi33000> Can you help me
[15:55] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: for the 8th time what os do you run?
[15:56] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: each time you never answer any questions
[15:56] <Robi33000> windows
[15:56] <Robi33000> xp
[15:56] <iUnify> Am I going to need to re DL 12.10 and md5 the disk?  I do not have any idea what that means or how to do it.
[15:56] <gp5st> is there anyway to get all the data exchanged in an ssh session, my ssh session
[15:56] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[15:57] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no i was more curious as to whether you still had the image you downloaded
[15:57] <iUnify> thats what i used to create mine
[15:57] <iUnify> i do
[15:57] <iUnify> oh no
[15:57] <iUnify> i have it on the usb
[15:57] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: Don't PM without asking first
[15:57] <WACOMalt> Is there aNY way to control the fan on a laptop that sensors-detect doesnt find any fan controllers?
[15:57] <iUnify> as is, maybe i saved it packed as well though
[15:57] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no i mean the image itself
[15:58] <delocaz> So can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the "Xubuntu 12.10" "...." screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.
[15:58] <iUnify> gotcha
[15:58] <martyla> What reason would make my logitech G930 headset cause the unity UI to become unresponsive? (i.e. clicking on any of the HUD doesn't react, can't open/close/maximize etc, however shortcuts like ctrl+alt+T still work and bring up terminal). This occurs on login with about a 50% chance, and logging into guest account and then back to normal user fixes it.
[15:58] <xzcvczx> Robi33000: so are you following the link i sent you
[15:58]  * oh 
[15:58] <iUnify> so, should I re-instll?  "System Program Error" sounds rather serious... keeps asking me if the computer locked up, which, it hasen't
[15:58] <xzcvczx> martyla: bluetooth?
[15:59]  * oh 
[15:59] <xzcvczx> ohno: must you keep doing /me
[15:59] <xzcvczx> iUnify: nah try running live for a bit and see if you get smae issues
[16:00] <iUnify> ok, how do i run live?  F2/4 on startup?
[16:00] <xzcvczx> doesn't ubuntu still auto run as live then you install from inside the live environment?
[16:01] <iUnify> sorry man, not following you
[16:01] <xzcvczx> iUnify: well what happens when you boot off the usb drive normally?
[16:01] <iUnify> i never do
[16:01] <iUnify> i wiped my drive
[16:02] <iUnify> installed ubuntu
[16:02] <iUnify> from that usb
[16:02] <xzcvczx> well when you install surely you did
[16:02] <iUnify> never use it anymore
[16:02] <FloodBot1> iUnify: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <xzcvczx> iUnify: well see whther you can find the option to run live
[16:02] <iUnify> so i should put the usb in and run from there you are saying?
[16:03] <iUnify> for example, it asks if you want to try before installing
[16:03] <betrayd> nice
[16:03] <xzcvczx> iUnify: thats the one
[16:03] <betrayd> thats live alright
[16:04] <xzcvczx> betrayd: as opposed to dead? :P
[16:04] <iUnify> cool thanks
[16:04] <betrayd> lol (try with H Keitel voice)
[16:04] <te> Anyone know where the logs for this channel are?
[16:05] <theadmin> te: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <te> I'm looking at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/ but don't see #ubuntu
[16:05] <kumarat9pm> I mess up with my ubuntu..
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> te  the logs havnet been updated for some time, few weeks, even
[16:05] <te> Oh ok.
[16:05] <kumarat9pm> I am unable to press contunusly any button..
[16:06] <te> Thanks anyway.
[16:06] <kumarat9pm> I have to press multiple times a key for doing a task repetitivly..
[16:06] <kumarat9pm> any suggetion?
[16:06] <te> I had a conversation with someone on the 4th and wish I could recall some details about it.  Oh well.
[16:06] <delocaz> So can anyone help me installing Xubuntu? It still blackscreens after the 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10" screen, then randomly flashes a cursor. I have tried: MD5 checking, nomodeset.
[16:06] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: err what do you mean
[16:07] <jaysql> hellow
[16:07] <theadmin> delocaz: Might want to wait, it might take a while for the GUI to actually start, especially if running from a slow device
[16:08] <kumarat9pm> xzcvczx: for example I want to go to starting of the prompt or some sentences, previously I used to press continuously left arrow, but now I have to press multiple times left arrow to go to starting
[16:08] <jaysql> I am trying to install Abiword on Ubuntu 10.04. However I am short of dependencies, and the OS doesnt have Internet access. I googled and googled. Can you point me in the right direction pls?
[16:08] <te> jaysql: I think 10.04 is EOL
[16:08] <jaysql> yres
[16:08] <jaysql> it is
[16:08] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: you mean holding it down doesn't work?
[16:08] <sdrhrgjkng> Figured it out. Forgot I had my wacom plugged in and the pen had fallen onto the pad.
[16:08] <te> (as of just few days ago.)
[16:09] <kumarat9pm> yes xzcvczx
[16:09] <delocaz> theadmin: I have left it for several hours...
[16:09] <theadmin> delocaz: Oh, never mind then, hmm...
[16:09] <leolove> I need a question
[16:09] <leolove> I mean answer :p
[16:09] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: then check your keyboard settings
[16:09] <jaysql> Does anyone know where I could get Abiword Dependencies for Offline Install, please?
[16:09] <theadmin> leolove: 42
[16:09] <leolove> I am running 12.10 at the moment and have problems with my gpu. Should I download and install 12.04 instead?
[16:09] <xzcvczx> theadmin: therefore i need the question to your answer
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> xzcvczx: I did I missed it
[16:10] <xzcvczx> leolove: what gpu
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> thanks for pointing it
[16:10] <xzcvczx> kumarat9pm: huh?
[16:10] <leolove> Radeon HD
[16:10] <wilee-nilee> te, may 9th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> I am able to do holding down
[16:10] <theadmin> jaysql: You can "sudo apt-get clean;sudo apt-get -d install abiword" on a machine with internet connection, then fetch the packages from  /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[16:10] <theadmin> jaysql: If not possible, there's always http://packages.ubuntu.com but that'll take a while as manually downloading all deps can be tedious.
[16:10] <jaysql> theadmin, will that include dependencies as well?
[16:10] <kumarat9pm> thanks xzcvczx
[16:10] <theadmin> yacks: Yes
[16:10] <te> wilee-nilee: is that the newest?
[16:11] <leolove> ubuntu 12.10 does not have stock updates after 3.5.0-27
[16:11] <wilee-nilee> te, newest, that has always been the date.
[16:11] <te> wilee-nilee: Sorry, irrelevant comment.
[16:11]  * Smashcat is annoyed that a new Agility 4 SSD is actually slower than the old Agility 3. Should have saved money and bought the old one for new build
[16:12] <leolove> what is the recent updatae available for 12.04? are they offering 3.8 kernel on 12.04?
[16:12] <leolove> via normal software update ?
[16:12] <theadmin> leolove: Nope.
[16:12] <te> wilee-nilee: You are correct, 10.04 reached EOL on the 9th
[16:12] <theadmin> !latest | leolove
[16:12] <wilee-nilee> leolove, 3.2.0-40 is the latest
[16:12] <xzcvczx> isn't may 9th next month?
[16:13] <leolove> and any experience if 12.04 is better or not with ati proprietary drivers ?
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> te, No, it reachs eol next month on the 9ty
[16:13] <leolove> I tried with 12.10....no matter what I configure, i always has tearing :(
[16:13] <wilee-nilee> 9th*
[16:13] <theadmin> leolove: Well, they at least work, from what I heard they hardly do in 12.10
[16:13] <leolove> theadmin : so I should get 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[16:13] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: the 10.04 factoid says April for desktop support ending for 10.04?
[16:13] <xzcvczx> leolove: i have never had much luck with ati on linux
[16:14] <theadmin> leolove: My general idea is to always grab LTS unless you just want to play around with latest features.
[16:14] <leolove> theadmin : thank you. I am going to download 12.04 and will be back ;)
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> i use the latest, for support purposes
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I see may 9th here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> MonkeyDust: For support purposes, as opposed to? I would recommend using the !LTS if you're worried about support.
[16:15] <betrayd> HE does the support
[16:16] <theadmin> SonikkuAmerica: As in, to provide help to others
[16:16] <leolove> MonkeyDust : You will always get more support for LTS :) It is my experience
[16:16] <betrayd> he the man
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> *facepalm* I knew that... :\
[16:16] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: sure enough.  factoid is wrong.  thanks.  10.04LTS's EOL will be a very sad day for me...
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> leolove  i meant *giving* support
[16:16] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: 12 days, my friend. 12 days.
[16:16] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I thought april as well. ;)
[16:17] <zykotick9> !10.04
[16:17] <amp> delocaz: are you running an nVidia GT240 by any chance?
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: For me, April 25th will be the end of an ear.
[16:17] <iUnify> alright, so, my boot aparently isn't set to load from USB anymore, so, when I did the restart I hit F2 which brought me to a screen asking if I wanted to boot recovery, whic hI did... the process completly screwed up.... something to the extent of timeout kill..... and, than another screen with options and that timeout kll message just kept screwing up ghosting over the screen.... than it froze... i shut off pc hard, and it started
[16:17] <iUnify> fine... imeadiatly many program system errors.  i am still going to do as you said now and run live but i wanted to give you an update and see if you had anything else to say.
[16:18] <xzcvczx> iUnify: redownload the ubuntu image md5sum it and reinstall
[16:18] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9: Or the end of an *ERA I hope (I don't wanna be another Van Gogh)
[16:18] <ohnoxyz> Im still trying to get smb folder permission of created directorys to allow writing for the group, conf file says i should set the "directory mask = 0775" to get group write permission but i was told mask = 0775 will not do this ?
[16:18] <Sternslovc> some awful noob questions here, can the movie player (totem) play streamtorrent or ace stream files?
[16:18] <iUnify> ok, md5sum, is that  filetype?
[16:18] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Usually, mask is the opposite of permissions, that is, mask 777 will result in 000 permissions
[16:19] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Not sure if that's the case for Samba.
[16:20] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Sounds you want 0002
[16:20] <xzcvczx> theadmin: you make it too easy
[16:20] <theadmin> xzcvczx: ?
[16:20] <zykotick9> theadmin: i's call umask a "subtraction" (instead of opposite) of full permissions (your point / example still correct ;)
[16:20] <ohnoxyz> theadmin: the smb.conf has comment says "If you want to
[16:20] <ohnoxyz> # create dirs. with group=rw permissions, set next parameter to 0775."
[16:20] <theadmin> ohnoxyz: Well, if it's in the comment and you didn't put the comment there, it's gotta be right :P
[16:20] <xzcvczx> theadmin: this is about his 5th nick that he has used now trying to get help with that and i have advised him that mask != mode
[16:21] <ohnoxyz> theadmin: well it should be ;)
[16:24] <Sternslovc> sorry to be an ass but is anyone able to shed some light on how to open streamtorrent or acestream files on ubuntu?
[16:24] <ohnoxyz> xzcvczx: really sorry im changing my nick here, and i tried looking up the difference(mask != mode) but im a bit confused because of the difference what comments in the conf says and what that normal mask behavior is ...
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !language | Sternslovc
[16:25] <theadmin> Sternslovc: Please watch the language. And you're not being that at all, asking is perfectly reasonable (that's what the channel's here for), but sometimes you may need to wait before you get an answer. If you don't want to sit here waiting, you can use http://askubuntu.com instead.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> Sternslovc, those names are not media type descriptions, you have to be exacting.
[16:26] <Sternslovc> http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=199092&part=sports  On windows, you can click on most of those links
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> mp4,ogg...eyc
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> etc*
[16:26] <Sternslovc> I've installed Sopcast to watch some football, but it's in russian.
[16:26] <delocaz> amp: I have no idea what graphics card it has
[16:26] <iUnify> should i format my usb as well?
[16:27] <compdoc> which is in russian, Sopcast or the football match?
[16:27] <bekks> iUnify: Why do you want to do it?
[16:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no
[16:27] <Sternslovc> I've sopcast running, the feed is russian, it's an english game.
[16:27] <xzcvczx> iUnify: what device is your usb drive on
[16:27] <xzcvczx> /dev/sd[a-e]?
[16:27] <Sternslovc> But the higher quality English feeds use different streaming methods, acestream and streamtorrent
[16:28] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: sorry i am not sure we can help you with illegal streaming methods in here
[16:28] <delocaz> amp: I think it's integrated something
[16:28] <Sternslovc> Ah ok.
[16:28] <Sternslovc> It's not illegal though
[16:28] <iUnify> again, appoligies, device?  It's plugged into my usb on my laptop.
[16:29] <uw> rythembox can go fk itself
[16:29] <Sternslovc> In the UK it's illegal to provide the stream but perfectly legal to watch the stream
[16:29] <Sternslovc> Just gonna scrub up on my russian
[16:29] <amp> delocaz: I had a similar issue with Xubuntu black screen, it was a bug and I had to install nVidia propriety driver
[16:29] <uw> I would rather use a realmedia player from the 90's over rythembox
[16:30] <amp> delocaz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+bug/993907
[16:30] <iUnify> also, last time i used a downloaded application to put the files on the usb, i am thinking i should just unzip the iso to the usb this time, correct?
[16:30] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: well regardless neither sopcast nor anything like that is remotely related to ubuntu so not the best channel to ask in
[16:30] <xzcvczx> iUnify: no
[16:30] <zykotick9> delocaz: if you want to find you graphics card, in a terminal try "lspci -vnn | grep -i vga"
[16:31] <xzcvczx> iUnify: open up disks
[16:31] <xzcvczx> and see whether you can find mention of /dev/sd...
[16:31] <iUnify> home folder?  devices?
[16:32] <Sternslovc> ah ok, thanks anyway
[16:32] <iUnify> Don't know how to open disks otherwise.... i juuuust got into linux, sorry to be a pita
[16:32] <xzcvczx> iUnify: open up a terminal windows
[16:32] <xzcvczx> and type in mount
[16:32] <iUnify> yep
[16:32] <xzcvczx> or df -h and find the one that looks like your usb device
[16:32] <Sternslovc> language iUnify
[16:33] <iUnify> lol, I speak English.
[16:33] <delocaz> How do you change your keyboard layout from a terminal?
[16:33] <iUnify> ok typed mount
[16:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: now can you find one that looks like it might be your usb drive
[16:34] <delocaz> 'cause I have no idea where the | key is on an english keyboard
[16:34] <xzcvczx> or try df -h and use the size to find the one that is your usb drive
[16:34] <xzcvczx> iUnify: or unplug it then plug it in again and straight after run 'dmesg' and look for /dev/sd...
[16:35] <Sternslovc> iUnify:  copy and paste it from wikipedia
[16:35] <zykotick9> delocaz: you could try (but this is untested by me on ubuntu) "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[16:35] <iUnify> how do i properly unmount the drive before unplugging?
[16:35] <xzcvczx> iUnify: don't worry about it
[16:35] <xzcvczx> just yank it
[16:37] <iUnify> ok and how do i properly paste this info here?
[16:37] <xzcvczx> you don't
[16:37] <xzcvczx> past to pastebin.com if you want to
[16:37] <iUnify> ok so im looking for
[16:37] <iUnify> ok
[16:37] <xzcvczx> or figure out which one it is
[16:37] <iUnify> store n go
[16:37] <xzcvczx> if you unplugged it and plugged it back in it will be right near the bottom in dmesg
[16:37] <xzcvczx> you are looking for /dev/sdc...
[16:37] <iUnify> that is it.... what ino do i need from it?
[16:37] <xzcvczx> /dev/sd...
[16:37] <xzcvczx> rather
[16:38] <zykotick9> delocaz: fyi, | is typically above ENTER but needs shift
[16:38] <xzcvczx> replacing ... with a letter and a number probably
[16:38] <xzcvczx> or maybe just a letter
[16:38] <rainbowwarrior> hello all , have i got a virus or is it something else, as somehow my hd keeps getting full although I am not adding any new software etc , can someone please help me and thank you ?
[16:39] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: cd /;du -sh *
[16:39] <Sternslovc> mine is on \
[16:39] <xzcvczx> and it will tell you where its all being used
[16:39] <jaysql> yes it a windows virus.
[16:39] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to get rid of the errors
[16:40] <iUnify> http://pastebin.com/0mkz0uP5
[16:40] <rainbowwarrior> thank you xzcvczx and zykotick9
[16:41] <xzcvczx> iUnify: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:41] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: is /var really big?
[16:42] <iUnify> and....?  :/  learning....at least! ha.
[16:42] <xzcvczx> iUnify: and what?
[16:42] <rainbowwarrior> zykotick9 , var is 179.8 MB
[16:42] <iUnify> what do i do with that info
[16:42] <xzcvczx> iUnify: run that command replacing /path/to/ubuntu.iso with the path to the actual iso
[16:42] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: ;) that's not big...  well good luck.
[16:42] <xzcvczx> in a terminal
[16:42] <rainbowwarrior> ty zykotick9
[16:42] <iUnify> gotcha sorry man
[16:43] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: how big is your drive?
[16:43] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: run df -h and pastebin it
[16:43] <fsapo> hi, if I install 13.04 beta will I be able to upgrade to the final version or will have to reinstall from scratch?
[16:44] <xzcvczx> you will be able ot upgrade
[16:44] <fsapo> xzcvczx ok, thanks.
[16:44] <xzcvczx> but unless you are happy to have a system that may not be 100% its not recommended
[16:44] <xzcvczx> fsapo: and for future reference #ubuntu+1 is better for next version discussion
[16:44] <zykotick9> rainbowwarrior: adjustment to xzcvczx's command "df -h | egrep '\''(Size|root|sd)'\'' " ;)  that one might be too fancy.  maybe "df -h | grep sd" is more reasonable.
[16:45] <fsapo> xzcvczx thats not a problem, the only problem is having to reconfigure everything, if that was the case I would wait
[16:45] <xzcvczx> zykotick9: must you :P
[16:45] <delocaz> Well, since my problem apparently can't be fixed, i'm gonna try Debian :)
[16:45] <iUnify> xzcvczx: What would the directory be if it's just in my DL folder, under the home folder.... I renamed the file to ubuntu.iso already.
[16:45] <fsapo> also, i read that there are some issues with chrome, will I be able to install chrome?
[16:46] <xzcvczx> iUnify: dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:46] <dr_willis> fsapo:  what issues?
[16:46] <xzcvczx> fsapo: well i have no idea what these issues are
[16:46] <xzcvczx> fsapo: and if its only on 13.04 please discuss in #ubuntu+1
[16:46] <dr_willis> chrme works here
[16:46] <iUnify> x so much, doing this now
[16:46] <iUnify> *thx
[16:47] <iUnify> permission denied
[16:47] <xzcvczx> iUnify: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M
[16:48] <rainbowwarrior> xzcvczx :- http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705270/
[16:48] <zykotick9> xzcvczx: using cat instead of dd, was the intended method for creating hybrid iso/usb usb installers.  with ubuntu, that's a little bit harding due to the redirect breaking sudo (but can be done, with sudo 'command' or running sudo -i first.  dd should work just fine, but i'm just saying this isn't "really" the origianlly suggested method.
[16:48] <fsapo> xzcvczx I'm looking for the link, but the wiki says it was built with a different lib than 13.04 and chromium should be used instead, but the docs might be outdated
[16:48] <zykotick9> s/harding/harder/
[16:49] <theadmin> zykotick9: Ubuntu images are hybrid by default, it works just fine. WIth older releases, you may need to preprocess images with "isohybrid" utility first
[16:49] <riobe> Anyone else here use pidgin? I installed it from the software center and when I open it or click it from the letter icon in the notification menu, no buddy list or UI comes up at all. I have no idea how to interact with it. Can anyone help?
[16:49] <dr_willis> fsapo: it worked yesterday fir me
[16:49] <zykotick9> theadmin: i know.  my point, is cat was the originally devised way of creating those usb images.
[16:49] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: then yeah you will need to run the du -sh * and see where its all being used
[16:49] <xzcvczx> fsapo: then #ubuntu+1 please
[16:50] <rainbowwarrior> ok thank you xzcvczx
[16:50] <fsapo> ok, but anyway https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/TechnicalOverview its in the Known Issues
[16:50]  * xzcvczx chases zykotick9 with moe sizlacks knife
[16:51] <Sternslovc> xzcvczx:  seriously, he's only looking for help
[16:51] <rainbowwarrior> hmm biggest is dropbox just over 700 MB lol
[16:51] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: no hes not
[16:52] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: then you did not do the cd /
[16:52] <xzcvczx> rainbowwarrior: you want to start at the root of the drive and go from there
[16:52] <rainbowwarrior> yeah sorry my fault forgot to cd /
[16:52] <Sternslovc> Perhaps he/she is like Bono then
[16:52] <riobe> Looks like restarting it fixed it.
[16:53] <Sternslovc> As they still haven't found what they are looking for
[16:54] <xzcvczx> Sternslovc: i refer you to the messages from zykotick9 at 4:39 and 4:44 and 4:48 as to my good reasons for chasing him down with a knife :P
[16:55] <xzcvczx> replace 4: with the hour that it currently is in your corner of the world
[16:56] <Sternslovc> 5
[16:56] <Sternslovc> where on earth are you?
[16:56] <Sternslovc> mauritania?
[16:56] <Sternslovc> oh not 16 4, fookin ell
[16:56] <Sternslovc> miles away
[16:56] <xzcvczx> Sun Apr 14 04:56:57 NZST 2013
[16:57] <Sternslovc> in that land with the confusing flag
[16:57] <xzcvczx> hows it confusing?
[16:57] <xzcvczx> because it has the union crack on it
[16:57] <DarkAceZ> How do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?
[16:57] <xzcvczx> s/crack/jack/
[16:58] <kelabot> hey guys is it normal when i create a bucket "xyz" in s3 and go to http://xyz.s3.amazonaws.com -- it will show "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below" -- is this normal?
[16:58] <Sternslovc> all those stars
[16:58] <xzcvczx> kelabot: not ubuntu related
[16:58] <Sternslovc> Australia newzealands cook islands?
[16:58] <kelabot> :)
[16:58] <kelabot> xzcvczx: if someone may know
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> xzcvczx: The heck is the union crack
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> union jack
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> heh I was just watching foghorn leghorn the southern rooster, lol
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> wilee-nilee: Never knew there was so much disrespect for the British flag.
[17:01] <Vivekananda> can someone point me to libre office channel. I am looking for templates and wanted to ask about resume templates there
[17:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: #libreoffice ?
[17:01] <DJones> !alis | Vivekananda
[17:01] <theadmin> Vivekananda: #libreoffice
[17:02] <Sternslovc> http://i.imgur.com/KNmQ2aZ.png  not entirely ubuntu related
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Sternslovc, thought I'd let you know
[17:02] <iUnify> so i am good to go now?
[17:02] <xzcvczx> SonikkuAmerica: its not really disrespect.... it was just an accidental mistype.... the letters are so close together
[17:02] <DJones> Sternslovc: If its not Ubuntu releated, why post it here then?
[17:02] <xzcvczx> iUnify: so the command finished?
[17:02] <SonikkuAmerica> xzcvczx: lol
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> SonikkuAmerica, They were the ultimate imperialist power before the U.S. took over.
[17:03] <xzcvczx> SonikkuAmerica: in saying that i wish we would get a real flag instead of our currento ne
[17:03] <iUnify> yes. 763+0 records in   |   763+0 records out   |   800063488 bytes (800 MB) copied, 138.787 s, 5.8 MB/s
[17:03] <xzcvczx> then good to go
[17:03]  * DJones points xzcvczx to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:03] <Vivekananda> DJones: thanks
[17:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | wilee-nilee, xzcvczx, I'm done talking, lol
[17:05] <Eagleman> I am having some problems with DNS, i am unable to resolve anything with dig:  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached  I disabled my firewall, tried restarting bind9 ( I am running my own dns server for caching ) but nothing works, any idea why it stopped working?
[17:05] <Vivekananda> DJones: one typing /ms g   alis help libreoffice it says -- Returning maximum of 60 channel names matching 'libreoffice'. But where do I see this list .
[17:05] <iUnify> good then?
[17:05] <Sternslovc> does someone else's ie google DNS work?
[17:06] <DJones> Vivekananda: You should get another window opening with the list
[17:06] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: look for a private message from alis, or in your "root" irc window
[17:06] <Eagleman> Sternslovc, you are asking if 8.8.8.8 works?
[17:07] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: dig @8.8.8.8 stuff.co.nz
[17:07] <Vivekananda> DJones: nope nothing here , no pm s
[17:07] <Vivekananda> client is xchat on ubuntu precise
[17:07] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, no responde
[17:08] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, pff, i just did route -n and the default route is gone
[17:08] <Eagleman> aigan
[17:08] <DJones> Vivekananda: I don't use xchat, probably better if you join #freenode and ask there
[17:08] <Vivekananda> ok will do
[17:08] <ineedahelpa> hi
[17:08] <ineedahelpa> can somone help me
[17:08] <Eagleman> So the question would be: Why is my default route being reset to nothing when restarting my ubuntu server?
[17:09] <DJones> ineedahelpa: We don't know, you haven't asked a support question yet
[17:09] <netherlands6> Hi I just install ubuntu 13.04 and follow the tutorial mentionning windows 8 system with uefi and I created an /boot/efi and during the installation ask to put the grub on this partition but when installation done and restarting I got an error said that I have no grub
[17:10] <ineedahelpa> i need money
[17:10] <DJones> ineedahelpa: Well, wrong channel, this is Ubuntu support
[17:11] <ineedahelpa> DJones:  i need money so i can buy new laptop to instal ubunto on it ok?
[17:11] <DJones> ineedahelpa: We can't help with that
[17:11] <Eagleman> Since when can you get loans here?
[17:12] <netherlands6> lol is an community help channel not gouvernement financial
[17:12] <ineedahelpa> i am just kiding
[17:12] <xzcvczx> netherlands6: please use #ubuntu+1
[17:12] <ineedahelpa> i need help whit wifi driwers
[17:13] <DJones> ineedahelpa: In that case, remember this is a support channel, offtopic comments should be made in another channel
[17:13] <Eagleman> Why is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?
[17:13] <ineedahelpa> i want to use win drivers but dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet
[17:13] <iUnify> am i good with those results to install now?
[17:13] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, How are you on IRC?
[17:13] <zykotick9> For anyone interested in Vivekananda's alis problem, when i tried it same thing "returning max of 60 channels..." but no output?  you need to use *s in your search so, "/msg alis list *libreoffice*" works with results.
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  that's the normal way, yes
[17:14] <ineedahelpa> Lartza: dont understand what is a point of your quiestion?
[17:14] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, "dont know how to get ndiswraper if no internet"
[17:14] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: without * it doesn't, this isn't my expected grep-like behaviour ;)
[17:14] <DJones> zykotick9: Probably best notifying #freenode as alis is their bot
[17:15] <isuru> hey guys i using a dongle for internet conncection but i can't view sms on current connectivity tool please tell me tool to get dongle sms and send sms ?
[17:15] <zykotick9> DJones: it's thanks to Vivekananda asking in #freenode, i got the answer
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> zykotick9  * is quite commonly used to look for a name
[17:15] <debbie_> i am having trouble with youtube-screenlets, can anyone help me
[17:15] <xzcvczx> isuru: most likely not possible
[17:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  aaaaaaaaaa now i get i am on other sistem
[17:15] <xzcvczx> isuru: you will need to ask the manufacturer of the device or provider
[17:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  dual boot
[17:16] <xzcvczx> iUnify: yeah install
[17:16] <isuru> That a huwai dongle
[17:16] <iUnify> ty
[17:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Then I would suggest moving the .deb packages to your Ubuntu and installing offline
[17:16] <Eagleman> Why is my default route lost up on rebooting my ubuntu server?
[17:16] <xzcvczx> isuru: doesn't change anything.... the software they release is only for windows, so you can use windows or complain to huawei that there is no linux software
[17:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Either by mounting partitions of the other systems or a removable media
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: is your dhcp server setting it correctly?
[17:17] <isuru> :(
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: if its set up manually its not designed to be retained across reboots unless you store it in the correct configuration files
[17:17] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, its not smart to run a "server" on a dhcp address, i am using a static address
[17:17] <BluesKaj> ineedahelpa, download ndiswrapper  , copy to a stick and plug the stick into the ubuntu machine
[17:17] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  so i just make install thet .deb package or do i need some more tools
[17:17] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: where do you configure the default route then?
[17:17] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, dpkg -i, no make install
[17:18] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Download the correct one for your release and architechture from packages.ubuntu.com
[17:18] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, can it be set in /etc/network/interfaces?
[17:18] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  this will download dpkg but wont install it so i will heave setup
[17:18] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, ?
[17:19] <xzcvczx> Eagleman: well check the documentation
[17:20] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  look i am noob
[17:20] <Eagleman> xzcvczx, ok thanks, looks like: gateway 192.168.1.1   does the trick
[17:21] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Download the deb files from packages.ubuntu.com, move them to Ubuntu with any method you like, USB etc and install them with dpkg
[17:21] <xzcvczx> ineedahelpa: a noob asks for hints doesn't demand hand holding
[17:22] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ok i download deb pacages then move them to usb and i install them whit dpkg command?
[17:22] <Lartza> Yes
[17:22] <MrUnagi> Is it possible to use an active rsync transfer to set up a reverse ssh
[17:22] <xzcvczx> no
[17:22] <Robi33000> the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why
[17:22] <Robi33000> it did no fix on hd
[17:22] <Robi33000> the 12 veision install and repeat install and repeat why
[17:22] <Robi33000> it did no fix on hd
[17:22] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  sorry just i newer used dpkg command so i dident know what wher you talikning about thanks for help
[17:23] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, If you have problems remember that there's man :)
[17:23] <neopsyche> Hi all.. trying to access ubuntu share not working anyone know how?
[17:23] <ineedahelpa> ahhaahah
[17:23] <neopsyche> I can see the share .. but there is a timeout.. / inaccessible
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Lartza: And woman, ready to help you help us help you help us all.
[17:23] <Vivekananda> zykotick9: :) good work
[17:23] <neopsyche> using SAMBA
[17:24] <zykotick9> Vivekananda: thank you!
[17:24] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, Okay
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> (I know what you're talking about)
[17:24] <MrUnagi> I dunno how to ask what im trying to do,...it's probably not possible.....rsync works over ssh right?
[17:25] <DarkAceZ> How do I change the number of open files limit in Linux?
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  yes
[17:25] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, temporarily or permanently?
[17:25] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: rsync CAN work over ssh (or nfs, or local)
[17:25] <DarkAceZ> permanently
[17:26] <DarkAceZ> it's currently 1024
[17:26] <DarkAceZ> I think
[17:26] <MrUnagi> MonkeyDust: Is it possible to use a running rsync to start a reverse ssh?
[17:26] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i want for 12.04 thet is precise ?
[17:26] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Yes
[17:26] <ineedahelpa> ok ty
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  rsync copies data, not sure what you mean
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> I edited /etc/security/limits.conf
[17:27] <neopsyche> can someone help me setup SQUID server?
[17:27] <MrUnagi> MonkeyDust: Im sure im not making sense lol
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> I added '*                hard    nofile          4096' to the end of the file
[17:27] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I think that just raises the allowed limits of ulimit command?
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> well then I'm not sure what I'm doing
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> MrUnagi  rsync is similar to scp, where cp means copy
[17:27] <DarkAceZ> but my xchat has hit the open file limit
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> and it glitching
[17:28] <riobe> O
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> too many log files open, I'd like to set it to 4096
[17:28] <DarkAceZ> the open file limit, I mean
[17:28] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, /etc/sysctl.conf fs.file-max = 4096
[17:28] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I am not sure if that works
[17:28] <MrUnagi> I guess im trying to reach my computer in the office over ssh through a remote server....I thought if a path from the office to the server is open, I could find a way to ssh to the office machine from the server which I have access to
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Then logout or run sysctl -p
[17:29] <Lartza> and cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
[17:29] <DarkAceZ> alright, lemme try
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ther are 3 pacages what shoud i downaload
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57.orig.tar.gz
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Hang on...
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57-1ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> ndiswrapper_1.57-1ubuntu1.dsc
[17:29] <ineedahelpa> want a link?
[17:29] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, That actually raises the system wide limit... is that only 1024?
[17:30] <nmittal> hello ppl.. how do i check the max # of file open allowed by my system?
[17:30] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, and /etc/security/limits.conf should work...
[17:30] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I've not done this for a very long time so :/
[17:30] <nmittal> i am running Linux goofy 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:30] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/1.57-1ubuntu1 what of this 3 packets i need
[17:30] <DarkAceZ> is there any command I should be running after editing the /etc/security/limits.conf?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> nmittal  what's linux goofy?
[17:30] <nmittal> MonkeyDust, goofy is the hostname
[17:31] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Have you tried "soft" instead of "hard"?
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> nope
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> should I?
[17:31] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Set soft to 4096 and hard to 10240 in /etc/security/limits.conf
[17:31] <Lartza> Like you already did with hard
[17:31] <DarkAceZ> alright
[17:32] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, Then relog to be sure, and check with ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn
[17:32] <Vivekananda> can I ask libreoffice questions here ?
[17:32] <nmittal>  cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max returns 2436928 which is pretty large but I am thinking maybe the user limit is smaller
[17:32] <Vivekananda> the official site seems no one is there
[17:32] <Vivekananda> :(
[17:32] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Who told you to go to launchpad?... http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:33] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i google it sorry
[17:33] <ineedahelpa> Lartza: is this ok http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/ndiswrapper
[17:33] <Lartza> Vivekananda, Ubuntu related yes, otherwise maybe ;)
[17:33] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Nope, wrong page
[17:34] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  meybe help me to much tarded
[17:34] <Kroach> I want to check for lines that contain either of two given strings, how can I do that? I was trying to get grep to do that but so far o luck
[17:34] <Vivekananda> yes but then is libreoffice , ubuntu related. If not I dont want to jeopardize my chances of talking in this channel coz this channel is very helpful for lots of other things
[17:34] <Lartza> nmittal, ulimit -Hn and ulimit -Sn show you the open limits for current user
[17:34] <bogor> Vivekananda: egrep "string1|string2" file
[17:34] <zykotick9> Kroach: check out egrep
[17:35] <DarkAceZ> Lartza, alright, back in a few minutes (xchat takes a bit to start up
[17:35] <DarkAceZ> )
[17:35] <bogor> Vivekananda: btw, qouting is important in that
[17:35] <snuggl> Kroach: grep -e "foo" -e "bar"
[17:35] <Lartza> bogor, You are hilighting the wrong person
[17:35] <nmittal> Lartza, H is 4096 and S is 1024.. whats the difference?
[17:35] <jaysql> what is foo ?
[17:35] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  can you give me a link i think i am too much tarded
[17:36] <Lartza> nmittal, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/29577/ulimit-difference-between-hard-and-soft-limits
[17:36] <Kroach> snuggl: worked, thanks
[17:36] <bogor> Thanks Lartza , Actaully i meant Lartza , Sorry Vivekananda
[17:36] <snuggl> jaysql: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[17:36] <jaysql> I am soft at the moment, can you make me hard?
[17:36] <Lartza> nmittal, That will probably explain it well enough, and better than I can
[17:36] <jaysql> lol jk
[17:36] <bogor> My bad day. Lot of messign up
[17:36] <nmittal> Lartza, reading it
[17:36] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[17:36] <Lartza> You will probably want all of those
[17:38] <ineedahelpa> i have a new problem
[17:38] <nmittal> Lartza, understood.. how do I increase the limits ? security/limits.conf?
[17:38] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | ineedahelpa
[17:39] <Lartza> nmittal, Yeah "username <soft/hard> nofile <limit>"
[17:40] <Lartza> At least it should work ;)
[17:40] <nmittal> Lartza, and is it safe to set it rediculously high? like 1m?
[17:40] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica: i dont know wher to click to downaload
[17:40] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm... I don't know
[17:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Download what?
[17:40] <Lartza> nmittal, I would assume yes... except if it ever hit 1m something would be wrong
[17:40] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all niswraper packages
[17:41] <Lartza> nmittal, Basically someone could hurt your system performance on a shared system if you set their open file limit high but for your user... I don't know
[17:41] <nmittal> Lartza, i see.. well no one else uses this system.. so only I could bring it down ;-)
[17:42] <Lartza> nmittal, Yeah it should be safe to set it high
[17:42] <nmittal> Lartza, is there a way to check how many files are open at the moment
[17:42] <neopsyche> samba share not showing files?
[17:42] <Karasaar> test
[17:42]  * jaysql dances to the samba rhythm
[17:42] <neopsyche> lol
[17:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Is this with or without Internet?
[17:43] <uvala> miro doesnt convert videos to mp3 anymore (and this for a long while), can I fix this somehow?
[17:43] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm... "lsof | grep ' root ' | awk '{print $NF}' | sort | wc -l" from google :)
[17:43] <Lartza> replace root with username
[17:43] <bogor> uvala: ffmepg can do that. AFAIK, it is a cli tool
[17:44] <uvala> bogor, what is ffmepg and afaik? do I need to install them?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> uvala  use soundconverter, i tried it succesfully
[17:44] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica: i have internet now but i will not heve it when i go unubtu beacuse wifi dont work
[17:44] <uvala> monkeydust, can I sudo apt-get it?
[17:44] <nmittal> Lartza, that command for my user returns 29182.. but my hard limit is 4096
[17:44] <nmittal> Lartza, howz that possible
[17:44] <Lartza> nmittal, Umm :D
[17:44] <Lartza> nmittal, Computing!
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> uvala  yes
[17:45] <Lartza> nmittal, I don't know sorry
[17:45] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Check this page out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[17:45] <bogor> uvala: ffmepg is a tool that supports such conversions. AFAIK is as far as i know. ffmeg is very popular tool and lot of apps use it in backend
[17:45] <nmittal> Lartza, ok no worries.. thanks for your help
[17:45] <bogor> uvala: you install it with apt-get install ffmpeg
[17:46] <raju> uvala,  dont forget adding sudo .you need to be root.
[17:46] <uvala> monkeydust and bogor, thank you very much, started installing soundconverter now, will try with ffmpeg, too, if I still need to
[17:47] <BluesKaj> raju, when using sudo you have root permissions
[17:47] <raju> BluesKaj, to install any application we need to be root right , thats what I have suggested .
[17:47] <bogor> uvala: it is command line tool. So check the man pages or internet for the options best suit needs.
[17:48] <raju> uvala, http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html read this. this will let you know what exactly you can do with ffmpeg.
[17:48] <janisozaur> how can i set my serial port speed to something like 1382400? stty seems to not consider that as valid speed (screen however has no problems with that)
[17:48] <uvala> bogor, thank you, I will keep this tool in mind, for now soundconverter seems to do the trick, converting the file
[17:48] <uvala> thank you raju!
[17:48] <raju> uvala,  :)
[17:49] <neopsyche> why is ubuntu share not showing files?
[17:51] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  i founded out i done even need niswraper beacuse i cant extract anything from windowswifidriver.exe so i am screwed
[17:51] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: What.
[17:52] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  do you know meybe how to install linux driwer i downloaded it from internet but it wont make install it gives errors
[17:53] <bogor> ineedahelpa: thats why there is apt-get . So that you dont have to do make install and solve the errors it throws.
[17:53] <SonikkuAmerica> ineedahelpa: Can you !pastebin them?
[17:53] <ineedahelpa> bogor:  i dont have internet so apt-get wont help me smartass
[17:54] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  what to pastbin
[17:54] <SonikkuAmerica> The output of your [ make install ] for your driver
[17:54] <BluesKaj> ineedahelpa, not everyone is aware of your situation , please refreain from insults and bad language
[17:55] <ineedahelpa> soory w8
[17:56] <ineedahelpa> i cant i been thet road i go cry
[17:56] <ineedahelpa> meybe return leater
[17:59] <deffrag> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and while updating and upgrading packages I got errors as pasted here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703828/ .Its around grub as far as I could understand. /etc/grub.d/40_custom.save - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5703837/ . Could anyone help understand the problem and solve it?
[17:59] <ineedahelpa> SonikkuAmerica:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705481/
[17:59] <uvala> just curious, why is conversion no more possible with miro? has anything changed in miro concerning this?
[17:59] <ineedahelpa> neuvaljuj se
[17:59] <Lartza> !android
[17:59] <jaysql> Negative.
[18:00] <ineedahelpa> i just read thet 12.10 supports my card automatick
[18:00] <hanun> hello
[18:00] <hanun> :D
[18:01] <Lartza> hanun, Hello
[18:01] <ineedahelpa> can somone explan me why is newer wersion 12.10 supoerted only for 18 monts and older 12.04 for 5 years
[18:01] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, LTS
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> !LTS
[18:02] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Why did you install 12.04?
[18:02] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, I just realised
[18:02] <hanun> has anybody tries manjaro linux
[18:02] <hanun> ??
[18:02] <Lartza> hanun, #ubuntu-offtopic, or rather arch linux offtopic...
[18:02] <ineedahelpa> i know what lts means just dont understend why 12.10 will be suporterd smaller time then this
[18:02] <hanun> okay sry
[18:02] <DJones> hanun: That not a supported version of Ubuntu
[18:03] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  beacuse i thinked thet 12.04 is bether if it is suported more time
[18:03] <jaysql> ubuntu is arch linux
[18:03] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, No...
[18:03] <DJones> jaysql: Enough trolling
[18:03] <jaysql> OKAY
[18:04] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  can i go cry now?
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, It's more stable for servers etc
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Yes
[18:04] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, You can update to 12.10 or reinstall :)
[18:05] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  no i want fress install i will delete whole hard and fress install
[18:05] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, That is probably better
[18:05] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i installed first  zorin to figur out what is hepening in linux now i learnd some beasics
[18:06] <ineedahelpa> best thin in ubuntu iz compiz WoblyWindow and you dont need to reinstall evry 5moths like tarded windows
[18:08] <Lartza> Compiz... okay
[18:08] <Lartza> :D
[18:08] <ineedahelpa> how to change wher is x bution on window in ubuntu i want to be on right side of folder like in windows
[18:09] <rase> hello guys i have a question i need to install ubuntu to a laptop with usb but the usb port is not configured and i don't have accsess to bios cause it's pass protected it's an very old computer so my question is shall i push it with network install and yes then how to go about doing that the easy way or is there a way to fix the usb PS i am atm booted into a old Helix resuce disk and it has a ubuntu 9.0.9 on it and the usb is showing th
[18:09] <ineedahelpa> i dont use compiz for anything more just wobly window
[18:09] <rase> install from there so my question is there a way to make the usb start it's install when i'm inside the old ubuntu??
[18:09] <DJones> !controls | ineedahelpa
[18:09] <ineedahelpa> i am not smart but i think you can
[18:10] <ineedahelpa> ubottu:  ty
[18:10] <jaysql> ubottu stop trolling
[18:11] <delocaz> So as I asked before, how do I get Xubuntu to boot up from the live cd? It currently blackscreens after the screen with 4 dots and "Xubuntu 12.10". It runs Debian fine, though.
[18:11] <rase> anyone have an idea on my question?
[18:11] <Lartza> :) poor jaysql
[18:11] <ineedahelpa> i think i have
[18:12] <ineedahelpa> rase:  but i am no expert
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I have seen users have a summed disc be correct and not work, but a reburn fixed it at a slower speed.
[18:12] <ineedahelpa> rase: can you acces your usb from your old ubuntu
[18:12] <rase> yes
[18:12] <rase> i just can't boot it from the boot menu
[18:13] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I'll try reburning.
[18:13] <vilgax> anybody know if there is developers ppa for nmap 6.25
[18:13] <ineedahelpa> rase:  if can you shoud find install.sh(or what is i am still used to exe) like in live usb and run it
[18:13] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, That will not work...
[18:13] <rase> let me check
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> rase, You can loop mount the ISO in a partiton with grub 2
[18:13] <Lartza> rase, Won't work, you can't just run the installer from a running system
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> partition*
[18:13] <delocaz> Hmm... is Xubuntu 13.04 beta 2 stable enough?
[18:13] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i told i am no expert
[18:14] <DJones> delocaz: Ask in #ubuntu+1 they may be able to tell you
[18:14] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, All the partitions are mounted and locked, files in use and locked, not to mention you are wiping the system that ran the installer
[18:14] <delocaz> ...i'll just stick with 12.10
[18:15] <Lartza> wow
[18:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i thinked it is like windows in when you ran widows it copy to hard then restarts and continuse install
[18:15] <Lartza> Does rm -rf / remove root actually?
[18:15] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, No
[18:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !danger
[18:15] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  ok i go cry more
[18:15] <rase> so how would i do this then?
[18:15] <harris> has anyone read nothing but the truth recently
[18:15] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, There are ways to install some distros from a running one but
[18:15] <rase> wilee-nilee: how to i access that?
[18:15] <harris> or is there a channel for it
[18:15] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, I actually ran it, it halted itself :3
[18:16] <DJones> harris: You know the rules, this is a support channel
[18:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Lucky you Lartza.
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> rase, Thanks always use nicks. ;)  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:16] <Lartza> SonikkuAmerica, I was continuin it and pressed enter accidentally :)
[18:16] <ineedahelpa> Does rm -rf / remove root actually? why is this dangerus
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> Lartza, I'm back from the dead
[18:16] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, It could :3
[18:16] <ineedahelpa> is it like sudo su
[18:16] <Lartza> ?
[18:16] <DarkAceZ> how am I supposed to check if it's been changed, now?
[18:17] <ineedahelpa> i go cry i am too noob to be smart
[18:17] <rase> wilee-nilee: inside grub from terminal thats how far i have come
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ineedahelpa, It is a wipe command
[18:17] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, ulimit -Hn and umm...
[18:17] <DarkAceZ> $ ulimit -Hn
[18:17] <DarkAceZ> 10240
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> ineedahelpa,Just depends what you point it at.
[18:17] <ineedahelpa> ty i go cry more
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> rase, This just adds the iso to the grub menu, if you have the grub bootloader.
[18:18] <ineedahelpa> can somone give me money i have no job?
[18:18] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, ulimit -Sn
[18:18] <DarkAceZ> $ ulimit -Sn
[18:18] <DarkAceZ> 4096
[18:18] <Lartza> DarkAceZ, I am assuming you set hard and soft to those values so it worked :)
[18:19] <Lartza> ineedahelpa, Get a job
[18:19] <DarkAceZ> I'll know it a minute, thanks for your help so far!
[18:19] <rase> i'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now
[18:19] <ineedahelpa> Lartza:  i would but i cant i live in Serbia
[18:19] <rase> wilee-nilee: i'm booting from a rescue cd and it's backend is ubuntu 9 thats what i'm on now (forgot nick)..
[18:19] <wilee-nilee> rase, That is end of life, I assume you know this.
[18:19] <tush> from where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version
[18:20] <eczlea> Hello, whenever I type yahoo and press ctrl+Enter , it redirects me to au.yahoo.com instead of in.yahoo.com. This has happened today only.what's going wrong?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> rase, Nor is it grub 2.
[18:20] <eczlea> This is both -chrome and firefox browser
[18:20] <rase> wilee-nilee: i know it's an very old one but thats all i had on cd (all i could mange to boot into)..
[18:21] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: It likes the Big Bash T20 better than the IPL I think. :) Try clearing your cache and cookies maybe?
[18:21] <eczlea> haha SonikkuAmerica . Already tried that. Ran bleach bit too but the problem persists :S
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: (By the way, MI and CSK won their matches today) Go to System Settings > Language Support and see what's selected...
[18:22] <rase> wilee-nilee: no more cd's to burn only got the ubuntu new version on an usb stick thats all i have but the usb is not showing in the boot menu to boot from that and bios is locked so i'm basicly f..ed until fix it from network or something else i was hoping to start it using the rescue cd and boot it from with in like u do windows but that might not be possible or so on..
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> rase, Is the computer to old to boot a usb, you can use plop to boot it.
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> If you have a windows install you can run plop from there without a cd
[18:24] <rase> wilee-nilee: not to old just been disabled to boot from i guess
[18:24] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, English(UNited states) and English only. Rest all are greyed out
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> rase, There is a boot from menu not in the bios are you aware of this?
[18:25] <rase> wilee-nilee: yes but the options only has network flopy and cd in that menu as well
[18:25] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: I hate to say it but purge and reinstall your browser maybe?
[18:26] <eczlea> hmm okay SonikkuAmerica
[18:26] <eczlea> will flushing DNS help SonikkuAmerica ?
[18:26] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: It might
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> rase, I wonder if the usb is being seen, and or if the bios or this other bootmenu needs to sense the usb to show a boot option.
[18:27] <rase> wilee-nilee: not sure
[18:28] <eczlea> no luck SonikkuAmerica :(
[18:28] <Merkidemis> I have a lucid server, and am getting an error 101 Network is unreachable. [IP 2001:67c:1360:8c:10::18].  I can ping archive.ubuntu.com just fine.  Am I correct in thinking I should disable ipv6?
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: You may just have to type out the full name in.yahoo.com for now then...
[18:30] <Lartza> I've tried running bloodhound or gitlab, checked that gitorious is a pain to install on Ubuntu and no proper instructions even, what else are there??
[18:30] <Lartza> I want git support and support for multiple projects
[18:31] <tozen_> hi all does anybody tried co configure /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh to get startup colored?
[18:32] <raze> wilee-nilee: sorry got disconnected :P
[18:32] <zykotick9> Lartza: i'm not a developer, but the various git services came to my attention the other day.  this wiki page has a nice comparison of some of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_software_hosting_facilities
[18:32] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, removed google chrome. But even firefox redirects. So shall i uninstall it too?
[18:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes, [ sudo apt-get purge firefox ; sudo apt-get install firefox ]
[18:34] <Lartza> zykotick9, I am looking for something I can deploy on my own server
[18:34] <zykotick9> Lartza: ahhh, that's much better!  no SAAS ;)
[18:34] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: burning at a slower speed did not help at all... The cursor still appears, stays for a few seconds, then goes away, then reappears in a loop
[18:35] <delocaz> It runs Debian atm, but I'd like Xubuntu
[18:36] <tush> from where i can download Creative Elite pro sound card driver for ubuntu 12.04 64bit version
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Strange, there are a number of other optons in that f6 menu, however I'm lost as to where to go though. You might look on the web with the computer model and or hardware using those options in the foo, it is probably is another graphic command added, as a guess.
[18:37] <ahalverson> tush: have you checked additional drivers?
[18:37] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Thing is, I have 0 idea what the specs are, other than everything is Silicon Integrated Systems
[18:37] <tush> ahalverson, like???
[18:37] <raze> wilee-nilee: if i just get an iso of ubuntu downloaded can't i mount that iso like with something like deamon tools to make it thinks it's a cd drive and then run it??
[18:37] <delocaz> And it has an Intel Celeron
[18:37] <ahalverson> just checking
[18:38] <tush> ahalverson, from where do i check additional drivers
[18:38] <dr_willis> raze:  no.. you boot the cd/make a live usb from it..
[18:38] <dr_willis> !install | raze
[18:38] <MrGizmo757> Anybody familiar with ffmpeg?  i am trying to do a screen cast but my audio is out of sync. i can't figure out how to fix it.
[18:38] <ahalverson> search "additional drivers in the dash and click on the icon
[18:38] <Merkidemis> Would anyone be able to assist me in resolving my 101 Network is unreachable errror I am getting when I try to apt-get update?
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Look up the computer on the web, you could also just do a netinstall with a mini ISO, It might load the right stuff, and or at least give you a installed system to tinker with.
[18:39] <tush> ahalverson, in software center
[18:39] <raze> wilee-nilee: any ideas?
[18:39] <tozen_> Merkidemis: which server do u use?
[18:39] <Merkidemis> lucid
[18:39] <BluesKaj> tush, run aplay -l in a terminal , and pastebin the output
[18:40] <Merkidemis> I am trying to connect to http://archive.ubuntu.com
[18:40] <ahalverson> tush: normally drivers arent found in the software center, so if you can't find it in additional drivers, google the name of the card and the "ubuntu"
[18:40] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Where do i get a netinst iso?
[18:40] <MrGizmo757> anyone?
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone
[18:40] <tozen_> Merkidemis: try to chanche to Main
[18:40] <wilee-nilee> raze, The only thing I have seen is the grub 2 mount in a partition, I am lucky to not have had to mess around in this area. ;)
[18:40] <Merkidemis> tozen_: ok, one sec
[18:41] <tush> ahalverson, check http://pastebin.com/952CK22v
[18:41] <Merkidemis> tozen_: though oddly enough, I can ping the address just fine...
[18:41] <BluesKaj> MrGizmo757, run it with mplayer to see if the audio is still out of sync
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:41] <raze> wilee-nilee:  same here but friend asked me to help out and i wan't him to join the linux club! so i need to find a way :P
[18:41] <MrGizmo757> i did.  its out of sync in VLC. OpenShot and mplayer
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> ;) understandable Raz_away
[18:41] <ahalverson> will do
[18:41] <tozen_> Merkidemis: in update-manager setting just try to change your current server to Main
[18:42] <wilee-nilee> Raz_away, sory
[18:42] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: Where do I get a Xubuntu mini image? That was just regular ubuntu
[18:42] <Merkidemis> tozen_: this is a command line only server install
[18:42] <tush> ahalverson, in addititonal drivers showing me only Nvidia Drivers thats it
[18:42] <SonikkuAmerica> delocaz: www.xubuntu.org
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I don't see one, however you can on that mini I believe choose the desktop,
[18:43] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, no luck yet :(
[18:43] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: i use a hack solution with ffmpeg (for some content), using -async 30 and -r 30.  but i wouldn't recommend actually using these!  i really have NO idea what they mean do.  but it got my audio/video mainly together in my case.
[18:43] <BluesKaj> MrGizmo757, screencast ? pls expalin
[18:43] <Merkidemis> tozen_: for example, the first one in my sources list is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main restricted
[18:43] <BluesKaj> tush, did you run aplay -l ?
[18:43] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, The mini has choices for multiple types of servers and desktops, all you need is to choose the desktop.
[18:43] <tozen_> Merkidemis: pastebin spurces.list.d please
[18:43] <tozen_> Merkidemis: pastebin sources.list.d please
[18:43] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: ty
[18:44] <MrGizmo757> i read something about -async. i am not totally for sure where it goes in the command though.
[18:44] <ahalverson> tush: just sec
[18:44] <MrGizmo757> this is the command i use.      ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -i default -f x11grab -s $(xwininfo -root | grep 'geometry' | awk '{print $2;}') -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq -f mpeg -ar 48000 -s 1366x768 -y capture.mp4
[18:44] <tush> BluesKaj, , yes http://pastebin.com/952CK22v
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, No problem, hope that gets you up and running. ;)
[18:45] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: Hmmm...
[18:45] <Merkidemis> tozen_: the directory or do you just want the sources.list file?
[18:45] <ahalverson> tush, what is the full name of your sound card?
[18:45] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: i'd "guess" that -r 25 is setting a frame rate of 25... that may, or may not, be an issue.
[18:45] <tush> ahalverson, Creative Elite Pro
[18:45] <tozen_> Merkidemis: just sources.list
[18:45] <ahalverson> alright
[18:46] <Merkidemis> tozen_: ok, one moment
[18:46] <eczlea> SonikkuAmerica, why does yahoo think I am from australia when I am not from AU !
[18:46] <delocaz> eczlea: Did you choose Australia when you installed Ubuntu?
[18:46] <zykotick9> eczlea: you said this changed with multiple browsers right?  if that's the case, it's a DNS issue - nothing to do with ubuntu.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> tush , that's strange , open alsamixer and check the chip in the upper left
[18:46] <ahalverson> tush: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/27467/get-creative-soundcard-working-correctly
[18:47] <eczlea> not at all delocaz
[18:47] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: For the same reason people think I'm not American because I prefer cricket over baseball... but yeah, delocaz might have something
[18:47] <Merkidemis> tozen_: http://pastebin.com/zgFCJWnC
[18:47] <eczlea> yeah it did zykotick9 . So how to fix this DNS issue (if it can be fixed?) I did sudo /etc/init.d/ncsd restart
[18:47] <zykotick9> eczlea: DNS or Yahoo... but either way, not ubuntu related.
[18:48] <eczlea> zykotick9, that was nice way to tell me to leave #ubuntu :P
[18:48] <MrGizmo757> Well the Video itself looks fine.  the audio is behind. the longer the recording is the more out of sync it gets.   that would be a bitrate issue wouldn't it?
[18:48] <tush> BluesKaj, ahalverson one thing i want to clear Sound coming from Speakers fine, but not from Headphone which i use from IO pannel of Sound card
[18:49] <zykotick9> eczlea: no, that was a way of saying this is related to things outside of #ubuntu's and probably your control.
[18:49] <MrGizmo757> i dont know though. i am kind of a noob with ffmpeg
[18:49] <ahalverson> tush: oooooooohhhhhhh, that changes everything
[18:49] <eczlea> delocaz, the redirects to in.yahoo.com worked fine all this while.I got this strange problem today only. Will restart the router and check.
[18:49] <tush> ahalverson, means
[18:49] <tms> Hey Folks, I was curious if there was any equivalent to growl for the whole linux thing. Basically I SSH from my laptop to my workstation almots constantly and run finch there. Problem is, on the laptop I see no notifications at all. A system like growl where I could forward notficiations around would be ideal, but google doesn't seem to have much for me
[18:49] <tms> any ideas?
[18:49] <eczlea> zykotick9, ok. I was just joking.Thanks for help . SonikkuAmerica and delocaz !
[18:49] <ahalverson> tush: let me think
[18:49] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to set up my hdtv as a secondary monitor so i can use it to watch movies when i want to, but i'm having difficulty getting it to display my desktop properly.
[18:49] <tush> ahalverson, drivers not working for IO pannel of elite pro card
[18:49] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: if the frame rate of teh video and audio don't match, they'll be out of sync.
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> eczlea: yw
[18:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !u | SonikkuAmerica
[18:50] <ahalverson> tush: have you made sure the card is fully connected?
[18:50] <MrGizmo757> ok. ill try it then.  since the video is ahead of the audio i should lower it you think? maybe to 15?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> tush,in alsamixer make sure your headphone ctrl is turned up and not muted (MM) , use F5 to see all the ctrls
[18:51] <ahalverson> blueskaj: good idea
[18:51] <tush> ahalverson, yes connected working fine with windows7 ; )
[18:51] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: i'm not sure.  but north american video is usually at 29.?? FPS
[18:51] <ahalverson> ok
[18:51] <MrGizmo757> 29.97 or something like that.
[18:52] <Merkidemis> tozen_: I am thinking it's trying to fetch via ipv6, which isn't getting through my ipv4 router, but I don't know how to disable/remove ipv6.
[18:52] <pertu> dammit, after update my ati catalyst drivers went disabled mode :D
[18:52] <Merkidemis> tozen_: Here is the error I get: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Cannot initiate the connection to security.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[18:53] <MrGizmo757> but ill give it a shot. and ill also try that -asynch thing too.  hopfully one of them will solve it.  if not i atleast know what to search for in the forums. thanks for the help
[18:53] <zykotick9> MrGizmo757: that -async is suppose to sync the audio and video frames somehow?
[18:53] <BluesKaj> MrGizmo757, that's some string for your conversion there , seems there's a lot going on ...is it all necessary?
[18:53] <tush> ahalverson, BluesKaj already checked no option for Headphone volume
[18:53] <ahalverson> strange
[18:53] <tush> ahalverson, BluesKaj wanna check screen shot
[18:53] <BluesKaj> tush, ok
[18:53] <ahalverson> yes please
[18:54] <MrGizmo757> yeah i read in a forum -asynch is suppose to help with this issue too. but there were no details on it.
[18:54] <OerHeks> pertu, how did you install them, from their website? and cursing is not needed to get attention.
[18:55] <tush> ahalverson, BluesKaj  check http://imgur.com/rbiQHIc
[18:55] <MrGizmo757> if my audio and video were consistant i could just clean it up in kdenlive or somthing.  but  that's not the case. it starts of fine and the audio and video get more and more out of sync of the recording progresses.
[18:55] <ahalverson> tush: see you hope i was a help
[18:55] <MrGizmo757> so something has to be a missmatched.  bitrates or framerates like you said.
[18:56] <tush> ahalverson, what
[18:56] <BluesKaj> tush , you haven't got the "line" volume turned up
[18:57] <tush> BluesKaj, ahalversion, i tried nothing happen
[18:57] <BluesKaj> ok , bummer
[18:57] <BluesKaj> tush,^
[18:59] <MrGizmo757> according to youtube removeing -f sameq  and replacing it with -b 60000k  should help.  it did help a little but not enough.  the fact that it changed at all confirms its a bitrate/framerate issue. i guess i just have to play with the numbers until i find the sweet spot.
[18:59] <MrGizmo757> anyways  thanks for the help.
[19:01] <tush> BluesKaj, so any idea
[19:01] <tush> BluesKaj, why my IO panel not working in ubuntu 12.04
[19:03] <ParadoxVoid> Heya. Did anyone try my low-jitter config?
[19:04] <duhamel> hello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work
[19:04] <duhamel> any help?
[19:04] <eczlea> How to change dns to 8.8.8.8 in ubuntu 12.04
[19:04]  * |nv|s|b|e is now known as |nv|s|b|e 
[19:05] <BluesKaj> tush, IO panel , is that a gui ?
[19:05] <tush> BluesKaj, no let me show you
[19:05] <SuperGauntlet> Question, has anyone else had this issue:
[19:05] <tush> BluesKaj, http://www.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://img.hexus.net/v2/audio/creative/x-fi/external.jpg&imgrefurl=http://hexus.net/ce/reviews/audio-visual/3580-creative-sound-blaster-x-fi-elite-pro/?page%3D2&h=934&w=1544&sz=140&tbnid=dyXwR81TFqtdmM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__icfnUeHWNZF8esMQJt93_DSsquQ=&docid=mwodmtiOIYp-lM&sa=X&ei=fKxpUb6SCcPQrQehgYHYDg&ved=0CDEQ9QEwAA&dur=264
[19:05] <SuperGauntlet> Run ubuntu off USB disk with persistence (made with usb-creator-gtk), works fine on the computer it was created with, does not work on a computer with UEFI
[19:06] <CRPL> hello
[19:06] <duhamel> hello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work
[19:07] <tozen_> Merkidemis: which server u have installed?
[19:07] <tush> BluesKaj, got now what IO panel im talking about
[19:07] <ParadoxVoid> No low-jitter enthusiasts?
[19:07] <Merkidemis> tozen_: lucid, 64bit
[19:07] <tush> BluesKaj, that thing not working at all in ubuntu 12.04
[19:08] <BluesKaj> ok tush what kind of connection are you feeding the panel/device with from your pc
[19:08] <tush> BluesKaj, even volume control not working because of drivers issue or something like that im not so Pro in linux :(
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> SuperGauntlet, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[19:09] <tush> BluesKaj,  its Wire like Paralllel Cable what we use for older printer
[19:09] <SuperGauntlet> where is that?
[19:09] <tush> Blues
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | SuperGauntlet Not sure if this will help with loaded usb.
[19:09] <BluesKaj> tush, no coaxial available ?
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> SuperGauntlet, Should though.
[19:10] <SuperGauntlet> I think I looked at this
[19:10] <tush> BluesKaj, aahh optical Coax and analog all connected
[19:10] <tozen_> Merkidemis: i think so lucyd support is finished already
[19:11] <tush> BluesKaj, but IO panel not working thats the thing
[19:11] <SuperGauntlet> I think the issue is that when loading the .efi boot image Ubuntu doesn't have a persistence option
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> SuperGauntlet, THe problem with UEFI is different manufacturers have their own modified versions, so it is hit and miss. However at the Ubuntu Forums are daily helpers concentrating on UEFI, you might check or start a thread there.
[19:11] <SuperGauntlet> wilee-nilee: Okay
[19:12] <SuperGauntlet> uefi has been a serious cf I really question why it was even implemented like it was
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> SuperGauntlet, I doubt a casper-rw file in the sick is the problem.
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> stick*
[19:12] <duhamel> hello all, i am running ubuntu12.10 dual boot windows 8 on hp envy m6 1148ca and cant get wireless to work it is listed as unclaimed
[19:12] <duhamel> just point me in the direction
[19:13] <Merkidemis> tozen_: according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS support doesn't end until 2015
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Name the wireless set up you can find it with lspci in the terminal.
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> Merkidemis, desktop is eol april 9th the server is 2015
[19:14] <duhamel> rtl8111/8168b pci express ethernet controller
[19:15] <Merkidemis> wilee-nilee: I am running server
[19:15] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: MAY 9th actually.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Merkidemis, I figured that I missed the posts.
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Doh. ;)
[19:16] <Merkidemis> wilee-nilee: I am not looking forward to the dist-update, they never go well for me
[19:16] <vassilis> i wonder if i can hack in a system with ubuntu...
[19:16] <vassilis> it will be easy?
[19:17] <tush> BluesKaj, ?
[19:17] <vassilis> does anybody knows?
[19:17] <duhamel> network controller ralink corp. device 3290
[19:17] <mustafa> What channel to talk about c++? Because in #c++ no one is replying?
[19:18] <mustafa> !c++
[19:18] <duhamel> wilee-nilee: is that what you needed to know
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, This 12.04, I see options to try 12.10, on a live cd to see if that works.
[19:19] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, Not an area of expertise, I was just trying to get enough details to the channel for you.
[19:19] <jebech> I was running out of space on my /boot partition, decided to purge some old kernels;
[19:20] <Merkidemis> BAH! STOP TRYING TO USE IPV6! IT DOESN'T WORK!
[19:20] <Merkidemis> Stupid server
[19:20] <duhamel> thank you.
[19:20] <jebech> Forgot to update-initramfs, before reboot (but update-grub).
[19:21] <jebech> Now I get kernel panic. (unable-to-mount-root-fs)
[19:21] <BluesKaj> tush, I'm looking at the system and it seems very complicated to setup, however alsamixer shows mostly all IOs , so why the signal isn't moving between the soundcard and the console is puzzling , but I'm not familiar with this kind of setup
[19:21] <jebech> I'm booted on a livecd, and have mounted /dev, /proc /sys and /run
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> duhamel, I did just find this though, be sure it is exactly the same card. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2040656
[19:22] <jebech> chroot to /mnt (which is mount to my / partition)
[19:22] <SuperGauntlet> wilee-nilee: tried cs cameron's post here and it didn't seem to work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2108487
[19:22] <jebech> can run update-initramfs, but can't update-grub because /boot is on a its own partition.
[19:22] <jebech> Do I mount sda1 (boot partition) to /boot or ?
[19:23] <JustinianCode> anyone had experience with some motherboard/cpu combination with integrated graphics that are (1) cheap (2) stable (3) play well with linux?
[19:23] <tush> BluesKaj, when i plug in my headphone in IO panel no response from sound card nothing
[19:23] <BluesKaj> tush, my m-audio soundcard feeds the spdif digtal signal to an audio receiver. quite simple
[19:24] <JustinianCode> looking to replace the motherbaord on a system that fried. Wish I could find something that didn't need a fan...
[19:24] <Biomechd> can anyone help me set up my tv as a secondary monitor?
[19:24] <mJayk> JustinianCode: I've heard the intel i3's have good graphical performance inubuntu + they are cheap[
[19:24] <tush> BluesKaj, optical Coaxail and Analog all sound coming from speakers but not from Headphones
[19:24] <BluesKaj> tush try plugging your headphones into the pc front panel
[19:25] <tush> BluesKaj, it will work
[19:25] <BluesKaj> do the speakers have a headphone output , tush?
[19:25] <JustinianCode> yeah, I saw that. They are more than I was looking to spend, but I may decide to spend more.
[19:25] <tush> BluesKaj, yes
[19:25] <paul137> question: is samba only for ubuntu/windows networks?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> try that
[19:26] <sdrhrgjkng> My touchpad's left click stops working occasionally, and I have to reboot for it to start working again. How do I fix this?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> tush, ^'
[19:26] <histo> paul137: it's only for windows networks
[19:26] <histo> !info samba | paul137
[19:26] <paul137> it seems so -  because my two ubuntu machines don't talk to each other
[19:27] <histo> paul137: they will over samba if it's configured properly
[19:27] <thisisnusts> lol i just booted usb live and my wifi works
[19:27] <histo> paul137: It's just a networking protocol there are others you can use.
[19:27] <paul137> hmm - I've been trying and been doing tons of googling
[19:28] <BluesKaj> tush , the headphones will only work when plugged into an analog circuit , the source may need switching on the console .
[19:28] <histo> paul137: what are you trying to share or do?
[19:28] <tush> BluesKaj, Console not working at all
[19:28] <paul137> I'm trying to view a file on my desk top machine from my laptop
[19:29] <histo> paul137: you could use nfs or sshfs or samba if you want to use samba I will have ubottu send you the link
[19:29] <dr_willis> paul137:  easy way is to use ssh and the sshfs  tool to mounte the remote machine to a local directory
[19:29] <histo> !samba | paul137 The second link
[19:30] <tush> BluesKaj, Console not working even volume up and down
[19:31] <BluesKaj> tush , i don't think the console needs drivers , is the serial port connected as well ?
[19:31] <paul137> so what your'e saying is connecting two  ubuntu machines must be done with nfs or ssh - is that right?
[19:32] <tush> BluesKaj, yes, it work in Windows Fine
[19:32] <tush> BluesKaj, only ubuntu :(
[19:32] <jebech> Does anyone have an idea?
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: On?
[19:33] <BluesKaj> tush did the console need drivers in windows or just the soundcard ?
[19:33] <Vivekananda> anyone can help me with libre0ffice messing up letter spacing in writer.
[19:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: #libreoffice
[19:33] <tush> BluesKaj,  i downloaded drivers for windows 7 64bit for sound card
[19:34] <histo> paul137: no you can use samba to connect them if you want.
[19:34] <tush> BluesKaj, console need some defab to respond in linux
[19:34] <histo> paul137: they are all just different networking protocols
[19:34] <Vivekananda> SonikkuAmerica: I am already there. no responses :(. Everyone is sleeping in there
[19:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh. Well then wake 'em up! :)
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, http://askubuntu.com/questions/96298/how-to-activate-kerning-in-libreoffice
[19:36] <paul137> I've set the smb.conf file on both machines running samba no luck
[19:37] <paul137> each machine only shows itself as part of the windows network
[19:37] <paul137> without both being visable, they can't talk to each other - i think
[19:37] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica:
[19:37] <jebech> Ubuntu wanted to upgrade kernel, but couldn't because I was running out of space on my /boot partition, decided to purge some old kernels;
[19:37] <jebech> Forgot to update-initramfs, before reboot (but update-grub).;
[19:37] <jebech> Now I get kernel panic. (unable-to-mount-root-fs);
[19:37] <jebech> Following http://askubuntu.com/questions/116635/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block-oo-swapper
[19:37] <jebech> I'm booted on a livecd, and have mounted /mnt to /dev/sda3 (my / partition)
[19:37] <jebech> But after I chroot, I don't have boot, because it is located on another partition (/dev/sda1)
[19:37] <FloodBot1> jebech: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <dr_willis> paul137:  you did set up some shares on each box. and gave the users a samba password? "sudo smbpasswd username" ?
[19:38] <LoneTrooper> Does anyone know about next release of Ubuntu? There s final beta 13.04 available but i want to wait for final version.
[19:38] <BluesKaj> tush, defab ?
[19:38] <dr_willis> LoneTrooper:  then go get it... see #ubuntu+1 for support for it
[19:38] <tush> BluesKaj,  nothing : p
[19:38] <paul137> i have not given the user name - let me try that
[19:39] <LoneTrooper> i dont want beta but thx for response
[19:39] <tush> BluesKaj, i think it wont work in linux
[19:39] <mJayk> LoneTrooper: Afaik It is 25th of this month
[19:39] <SonikkuAmerica> LoneTrooper: 2013.04.25 or 15th Iyyar 5773
[19:39] <dr_willis> paul137:  for simple transfers - linux to linux, sshfs and ssh are easier to get going then samba. Unless you need 'windows shares' for other pcs on the lan
[19:39] <tush> BluesKaj, :(
[19:39] <dr_willis> LoneTrooper:  then what do you want? its in testing... wait for final release.. or not.
[19:39] <LoneTrooper> oh good to know new date thx mJayk, america
[19:39] <SuperGauntlet> Hey, on the topic of samba
[19:40] <SuperGauntlet> Why not just use webmin?
[19:40] <tush> BluesKaj, you still searching for some clue
[19:40] <histo> paul137: if you want to disable samba asking for user/pass change the samba config to security = share instead of security = user
[19:40] <SuperGauntlet> I know it's a bit of a cop-out but it makes it all a lot simpler
[19:40] <dr_willis> SuperGauntlet:  webmin is not reccomended under ubuntu.
[19:40] <SuperGauntlet> dr_willis: Any reason why?
[19:40] <dr_willis> and really theres n othing webmin does for samba that shouldent allredy been done by default
[19:40] <dr_willis> !webmin
[19:40] <paul137> let me try that first
[19:40] <SuperGauntlet> Oh okay. Didn't realize.
[19:41] <tush> BluesKaj, i hav to go now will try next time anyways thanks for your helping me :)
[19:42] <BluesKaj> ok tush , still think all you needis the sound card , the console is for recording etc
[19:43] <ronillon> hi, please is there some good gui for grub configuration you could recommend?
[19:44] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: You should have run update-initramfs so it could run a new initrd image.
[19:44] <silvia> ciao
[19:45] <dr_willis> ronillon:  cant say ive really noticed any GRUB gui tools in the default repos.. you may want to check askubuntu.com to see if any are reccomended.. ive never needed a gui
[19:45] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, I realise my brain blunder, however I am at a loss as of how to fix it. Do I mount /dev/sda1 to /boot?
[19:46] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: Well, becuase /boot is in /dev/sda1 you'll need to mount that.
[19:47] <ronillon> dr_willis: i do not need it for myself actually, friend of mine is starting with linux these days and asked me for something that he could use, cause he does not have whole lot of time to mess with the configs
[19:47] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: But not AS /boot; that's not allowed
[19:47] <bingo> hi
[19:47] <ronillon> dr_willis: but yeah, i will look there
[19:47] <LoneTrooper> does anyone have experience with driver for graphics tablet called wizardpen or DIGImend?
[19:47] <bingo> how do i delete Skye data after i have removed it?
[19:48] <tozen_> bingo: sudo apr-get purde --remove skype
[19:48] <dr_willis> ronillon:  actually - i rarely need to mess with the grub configs at all... ;)
[19:48] <dr_willis> bingo:  what skye data?
[19:48] <tozen_> bingo: sudo apr-get purge --remove skype
[19:48] <nightdemon666> any one who can help is appreciated... I am running ubuntu lts 12.04. i had been running "indicator-weather" (weather indicator app that displays on your panel [thats what i prefer]), and had been running it for a while. I love it. looks good on the panel! but after a while of running it would just stop. then i could re-run the app again, and all would be good until it would just close on its own and disappear from the
[19:48] <bingo> Skype remembers my username even after i remove using software center
[19:49] <mikerussel_> __̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.___
[19:50] <mikerussel_> bingo: find / skype
[19:50] <ronillon> dr_willis: true same with me, but he is multibooting with few another OSes and wants to change the order and time for decision which OS to start. so i figured it would be better to give him a tool, rather than doing it for him or something like that
[19:50] <dr_willis> bingo:  the pacvkage manager system does NOT touch your config files in your HOME directory...
[19:50] <dr_willis> bingo:  so look for the skype config files and remove them
[19:50] <aguitel> i have  Acer Aspireone 725 , this is the video card : VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 980a
[19:50] <aguitel> ,how install catalyst driver?
[19:50] <dr_willis> ronillon:  multi os's then he really should be learning grub. ;)
[19:51] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:51] <LoneTrooper> aguitel try this wiki.cchtml.com/
[19:51] <paul137> I made security change on both machines - i'm waiting a few minutes for it to take effect
[19:51] <bingo> dr_willis: just manually delete?
[19:51] <mikerussel_> aguitel: go to ati.com>download>install it
[19:52] <dr_willis> bingo:  err.. since the package manager wont TOUCH files in your home..  yes..
[19:52] <Lainey4214> Hello, I'm using ubuntu 12.10. When I go to take a screenshot, it gives me a black picture. I tried pressing prtscn, alt+prtscn, and going to screenshot, and I get the same results.
[19:52] <LoneTrooper> but then u need to build deb package from driver that has run extension
[19:52] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: Would you mind commenting on http://pastebin.com/2MJ6nLbV
[19:52] <aguitel> i didnt find in ati site
[19:52] <LoneTrooper> just see http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[19:53] <ronillon> dr_willis: maybe you are right, but from what he said, he is just testing different distribution right now, till he finds one, that fits him most. so it's probably one time (or so) thing
[19:53] <cloudgeek> how to remove a directory with full of data
[19:53] <vlt> cloudgeek: -r
[19:53] <nightdemon666> cloudgeek
[19:53] <nightdemon666> rm -r
[19:53] <cloudgeek> vlt: -r not owkring
[19:53] <vlt> cloudgeek: You might need -f
[19:54] <bingo> ok thanks
[19:54] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: It should at least say it was generating an initrd.img
[19:54] <histo> cloudgeek: rm -rf /path/to/directory
[19:54] <paul137> how long do i have to wait for  security change to take effect?
 u can use pcmanfm file manager that allows u to manipulate files using graphical user interface with administrative rights
[19:54] <starrywinternigh> im running xubuntu 12.10 and i wondering how to change my docky icon at the bottom of the csreen
[19:54] <tozen_> cloudgeek: rm -rf
[19:54] <starrywinternigh> screem*
[19:54] <histo> paul137: after you change the config sudo service samba restart
[19:54] <cloudgeek> histo: i tired rm -rf ~/.vim but not working
[19:54] <Lainey4214> When I take screenshots, they come out black
[19:54] <tozen_> cloudgeek: with sudo
[19:54] <paul137> I did - i'll take a look now
[19:54] <histo> cloudgeek: can you describe "not working"
[19:54] <nightdemon666> what would cause the OS to deny deleteing a directory??? i have NEVER had to use the f option :/
[19:55] <ubuntu-studio> im running ubuntu studio
[19:55] <cloudgeek> histo: it done ! now yeah
[19:55] <ronillon> dr_willis: actually, now that im thinking about it. it might be benefitial for him to compare grub.cfg before and after changes
[19:55] <ubuntu-studio> from flash drive
[19:55] <starrywinternigh> how to change docky icons at the bottom of xubuntu 12.10?
[19:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !studio | ubuntu-studio
[19:55] <histo> starrywinternigh: ask in #xubuntu
[19:55] <ubuntu-studio> how do i mount drives when im running a live usb ubuntu
[19:55] <mikerussel_> aguitel: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[19:55] <Merkidemis> Would someone be able to help me convince apt to use ipv4 rather then ipv6?
[19:56] <histo> nightdemon666: f is used to not prompt and ignore nonexistent files
[19:56] <ubuntu-studio> i cant access files stored on my computer
[19:56] <Lainey4214> My screenshot isn't working.
[19:56] <LoneTrooper> nightdemon666 all files in location called file system needs administrative right in oder to make changes into them
[19:56] <iUnify> wzcvczx: Reinstalled... good stuff.  Thanks for the help.  I am having trouble figuring out what to use as alternatives to my Antivirus/Malware/Adware/Firewall as well as a Dreamweaver alternative, not sure Komposer will cut it.  Also, can't seem to get clamav to install for me, if that were one of the suggestions.  Also I am looking for a webcam Application, YouCam is what I used with windows.  Finally I found you can record somehow
[19:56] <iUnify> with VLC but I don't know the audio device directory and can't figure it out.  My mouse is still clicking randomly as well.  Sorry for such an influx of questions, man.  I sincerely appreciate the help.
[19:56] <LoneTrooper> the only place where u can do things freely is home directory
[19:56] <nightdemon666> it looked like the directory tryingot be delete was in a home folder though LoneTrooper
[19:56] <paul137> wow i see my other machine!
[19:57] <LoneTrooper> nightdemon666 check if the file has read olny attribute
[19:57] <ubuntu-studio> can any one see my chating
[19:57] <LoneTrooper> if yes then disable it
[19:57] <nightdemon666> ubuntu-studio you need to first type sudo fdisk -l /// this will show you the list of mountable drives
[19:57] <aguitel> mikerussel_, why this from ati site and not from ubuntu (jockey-gtk)
[19:58] <Lainey4214> My screenshots keep coming out as black.
[19:58] <ubuntu-studio> screw you lone troooper
[19:58] <ubuntu-studio> go eat a dick
[19:58] <LoneTrooper> what?
[19:58] <nightdemon666> then, you need to type sudo mount /dev/sdX what ever the drive is... for example sudo mount /dev/sda /media/"momunt point"
[19:58] <paul137> to histo i'm going over to my lap top now to make the same changes on its config
[19:58] <ubuntu-studio> you told them to disable
[19:58] <ubuntu-studio> me
[19:58] <Lainey4214> He wasn't talking about you.
[19:58] <nightdemon666> i suppose i should have stated to make sure you creat i directoy ubuntu studio
[19:58] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: Just retried, sadly it doesn't. But couldn't that be related to /boot being on another partition
[19:58] <jebech> ?
[19:58] <ubuntu-studio> oh my bad
[19:59] <ubuntu-studio> i feel stupid
[19:59] <ubuntu-studio> im sorry
[19:59] <nightdemon666> sudo mkdir /mnt/directory name or /media/directory name...
[19:59] <Lainey4214> It's okay.
[19:59] <DJones> ubuntu-studio: Don't swear in the channel, please keep it family friendly
[19:59] <ubuntu-studio> i was about to use backtrack on you lol
[19:59] <LoneTrooper> nevermind except everything on the INTERNET
[19:59] <mikerussel_> aguitel try thishttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu
[20:00] <ubuntu-studio> how do i view my drives on live usb ubuntu
[20:00] <Lainey4214> Can someone help me make screenshot work?
[20:00] <ubuntu-studio> i cant see it
[20:00] <nightdemon666> ubuntu-studio type sudo fdisk -l
[20:00] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[20:01] <nightdemon666> then type sudo mkdir /media/(whatever-you-want-here)
[20:01] <BluesKaj> LoneTrooper, perhaps use the nick your directing your answers to from now on , saves confusion
[20:01] <nightdemon666> then, for example if the drive you want to "see" is in /dev/sda1 then you need ot type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/(the-name-of-the-directory-you-created)
[20:01] <ubuntu-studio> then what do i do
[20:01] <ubuntu-studio> night demon
[20:02] <ubuntu-studio> im using a live usb version
[20:02] <nightdemon666> its fairly standard linux/unix commands ubuntu-studio, it wouldnt matter if you were on gentoo or fedora or what ever
[20:02] <delocaz> Hello! I'm installing Ubuntu through the mini ISO (text-based installer). It errors at "Choose and install packages". It came close to finished, then errored. If I try to start again, it errors. It doesn't give any error description, just that there is an error.
[20:02] <delocaz> Can anyone help?
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, You are plugged in with ethernet?
[20:03] <ubuntu-studio> ok so i have to partition drives to view files already on windows
[20:03] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: yes
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Did you just chose the xubuntu-desktop, and is this a msdos disc I assume?
[20:04] <delocaz> I chose xubuntu-desktop, yes. And this is the one you linked an hour ago
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, Right, this is not a gpt disc?
[20:04] <nightdemon666> steps are, first see what linux kernel sees physically connected ot mobo (sudo fdisk -l) then creat the mount point (sudo mkdir /media/sda1 <-for example) then (sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1) now you will see the contents of drive either graphically or via command line :)
[20:05] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I don't know what a gpt disc is, but it's this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:05] <ubuntu-studio> ok
[20:05] <nightdemon666> no ubuntu-studio, you do NOT have to partition drives in order to view the contents of data on the drives, windows or not
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I mean the HD, it did not come with W8, or is a apple computer?
[20:05] <ubuntu-studio> need some help
[20:06] <delocaz> wilee-nilee: I don't see how that is relevant, but it's an old Windows XP computer
[20:06] <nightdemon666> ... ubutn-studio, i am helping you
[20:06] <ubuntu-studio> ff
[20:06] <gui_user> trying to remotely troubleshoot.  reportedly 12.10 only shows one line of gnome-terminal (launched from <alt><f2>) unless you fullscreen.  Similar issues with firefox, et all.  ...
[20:06] <nightdemon666> delocaz, gpt disk partition does matter to win xp i believe
[20:06] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: If I run update-initramfs -u -k 3.5.0-27-generic instead of -k all I get a whole slew of errors (could not read /lib/modules/... and all sorts), all culminating in failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0.27-generic with 1
[20:07] <delocaz> nightdemon666: Well, I formatted it as ext4 before the error
[20:07] <histo> ubuntu-studio: No you just mount them
[20:07] <ubuntu-studio> i need noodles
[20:07] <histo> ubuntu-studio: if they are already being used by windows they are already partitioned and formated
[20:07] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: Is that the kernel version you're updating?
[20:07] <LoneTrooper> Does anybody know if wizardpen or DIGImend may work better on openSUSE?
[20:07] <jebech> yes
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> LoneTrooper  better ask in the opensuse channel
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> delocaz, I don't know that, and see know post about that, I realize you are frustrated, don't take it out on me. ;)
[20:08] <paul137> to histo - I'm seeing both machines on both machine's network but I can't see the file in the folder
[20:08] <nightdemon666> well delocaz, you need ot have a partition to install on... im not sure exactly ewhat the error is, i even read your above discription.
[20:08] <histo> paul137: did you create a share?
[20:09] <gui_user> appearently the window can be made even smaller, but not larger (eg increased to a usable size)
[20:09] <paul137> i created a share using nautilus
[20:09] <histo> paul137: right click on the directory and got to sharing option in the file browser
[20:09] <iUnify> what do you guys recomend I use for AV/AM/Adware/Firewall?
[20:09] <delocaz> nightdemon666: The text-based installer fomats a drive before it installs anything, like the normal installer. It just errored at around 90% of the package installation
[20:09] <nightdemon666> anyway, anyone ever had issues with indicator-weather app closing by its self, and find a resolution??? i havent found one yet :(
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> !av
[20:09] <jebech> double check on boot partition; has abi-3.5.0-27-generic config-3.5.0-27-generic and vmlinux-3.5.0-27-generic
[20:10] <nightdemon666> delocaz, and the partition is large enough correct?
[20:10] <paul137> i'm assuming i have to be in nautilus - let me give it a try
[20:10] <delocaz> nightdemon666: 80gb, yes
[20:10] <nightdemon666> have you ever instaleld anything else to that partition?
[20:10] <nightdemon666> like any other linux distros
[20:10] <delocaz> Yes, after XP, I successfully installed Debian. Then I tried to install Xubuntu through the mini ISO (normal one didn't work and didn't boot to installer at all)
[20:11] <nightdemon666> and you say you cant see any of the displayed errors, it doesnt tell you what the error is???
[20:11] <delocaz> nightdemon666: It simply says "An error occured in step Choose and Install Packages"
[20:11] <delocaz> Or something like that
[20:11] <delocaz> The installer is the same as Debians, and the one Ubuntu had before Ubiquity
[20:12] <nightdemon666> delocaz, did you try and install just nothing but base packages, like, not selecting anything special?
[20:12] <delocaz> nightdemon666: No, but it won't let me choose again. Simply says there is an error
[20:12] <cablop|2> what graphical interface do you recommend for an Ubuntu server? we need to access it remotely
[20:12] <nightdemon666> is the drive healthy?
[20:12] <jrib> cablop|2: whatever you want.  Depends on your needs.  Personally I would recommend not using one
[20:13] <nightdemon666> cablop, just as a point to make, wouldnt that defete the purpose of a server??? GUI?
[20:13] <delocaz> nightdemon666: Should be, yes. Doesn't give any SMART errors
[20:13] <delocaz> Remember, it's this installer: http://img.bhs4.com/51/d/51d8459626a33cf128f6ed4b9a89d004b4aee69e_large.jpg
[20:13] <paul137> to histo - the folder showing as being shared on my laptop
[20:14] <cablop|2> jrib, well, the thing is simple, we are going to need a windows server and we are planningnon virtualizing it on Ubuntu... the downside is that we need a GUI to install it... otherwise we need to install the Windows server as host and run the ubuntu one as a service (something that's odd by itself)
[20:14] <nightdemon666> but, cablop, i would recomment LXDM
[20:14] <nightdemon666> LXDM is nice and lightweight :)
[20:14] <iUnify> Thanks for the response.  I have read that documentation.  I can't get clam to install properly... also, from what I understand, having these protections, esp. firewall is highly recomended, and, I'd like to use the percausion.
[20:14] <TPiazza> struggling with what should be a simple bash script, want to run the following script after a fresh install of ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5705851/
[20:15] <cablop|2> nightdemon666: not realy, a GUI is ok for a server as long as we start it just on demand
[20:15] <nightdemon666> delocaz, did you try redownloading the iso? maybe corrupt?
[20:16] <delocaz> nightdemon666: It's not :)
[20:16] <francesco_> hi all... i have a problem with unity: when I maximize a window the buttons are hidden and moved at the left corner.. how can I make the buttons always on top? :) Thx.. :)
[20:17] <TPiazza> the problem is that a few of the commands require input from the user, so when i run the script it behaves differently
[20:17] <SonikkuAmerica> francesco_: System Settings > Appearance, Behavior tab, make sure the switch at the far right is ON.
[20:18] <delocaz> Just gonna try reinstalling, but not choosing any xubuntu packages so I'm left with a shell. (Then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)
[20:18] <xorred> is it possible that enabling DenyHosts and Fail2Ban at the same time would somehow blacklist my own IP?
[20:18] <xorred> I am able to login a few times, then bam - my host is denied, even if it/s in /etc/allow_hosts
[20:19] <TPiazza> so clearly i am missing something, any ideas?
[20:20] <paul137> to dalocaz  i can see my folder on other computer for the first time but not its contents
[20:21] <nightdemon666> ok, again... anyone can help me with indicator-weather app in ubuntu 12.04?
[20:21] <nightdemon666> paul137, it sounds like a file permissions thing... just a thought
[20:21] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: Don't know if you saw; But double checked on boot partition; it has abi-3.5.0-27-generic config-3.5.0-27-generic and vmlinux-3.5.0-27-generic
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: Nope, missed it. Got it now. And s/vmlinux/vmlinuz
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> nightdemon666, Mine was always funky and stopped working a couple of weeks ago.
[20:22] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: You are ofcourse, correct
[20:23] <nightdemon666> mine will work for a while and just stop unexpectly... no errors i can see from it willie-nilly... do you use a weather indicator app that appears on panel that is stable?
[20:24] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: Did you cd into the partition where /boot was?
[20:24] <TPiazza> any shell scripting gurus out there?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> nightdemon666, Not really just look at the temp gauge, or my phone now.
[20:24] <nightdemon666> lol
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> I gave up on a working weather app, I have run several.
[20:24] <gcbirzan_> are you still supposed to use update-manager to update between releases?
[20:25] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica: It ends with update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-3.5.0-27-generic with 1; Ofcourse, /boot doesn't exist
[20:25] <Walex> TPiazza: there are probably several hundred shell scripting gurus in the world
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: Ouch... you might want to ask someone else then.
[20:25] <Walex> jebech: if '/boot' does not exist that's quite bad
[20:25] <TPiazza> Walex: just wondering if any of them are online at the moment.....
[20:25] <Walex> TPiazza: probably somewhere.
[20:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jebech: I dunno much about the linux kernel and initrd
[20:26] <cablop|2> ok, adding more spice to the question... gui for a server, just used on demand, what about using XFCE instead of LXDE for remote access?
[20:26] <gcbirzan_> why do you need a GUI?
[20:26] <gcbirzan_> I mean, just start whatever X app youneed over ssh or something
[20:27] <cablop|2> gcbirzan_: we need to virtualize another server inside, a Windows Server, installation is graphical
[20:27] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica, Walex: It exists (/boot), just not on the chroot; it isn't mounted, and I don't know howto do that (chroot to /mnt which is mounted to /dev/sda3 (which is /), but /boot is /dev/sda1)
[20:27] <gcbirzan_> my statement still stands
[20:27] <gcbirzan_> plus, most of these things offer VNC or such
[20:27] <gcbirzan_> I know qemu does, and I'm sure vmware has something
[20:28] <Walex> cablop|2: use a simple window manager like FVWM2 or OpenBox
[20:28] <Carlinhos> Can I install 13.04 beta while preserving /home even though it isn't on a separate partition (default Ubuntu partitions)?
[20:28] <paul137> to 666 i've set read permissions on the file im trying to see still no luck
[20:28] <jebech> Walex: I'm on a livecd, following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/116635/kernel-panic-not-syncing-vfs-unable-to-mount-root-fs-on-unknown-block-oo-swapper
[20:28] <gcbirzan_> Carlinhos: well, not easily
[20:29] <gcbirzan_> not sure it works in ubuntu, the installer is really annoying about partitions...
[20:29] <gcbirzan_> but you could try remoing everything except /home and just telling ubuntu to install there
[20:29] <Carlinhos> gcbirzan_: I read somewhere that re-installing ubuntu woudln't wipe out /home...
[20:29] <gcbirzan_> Carlinhos: also, I'm upgrading with dist-upgrade, because update manager has to be the most useless piece of crap ever
[20:30] <gcbirzan_> quite likely, it will end in hilary, but hey
[20:30] <Carlinhos> well i guess I will just do a backup and this time make sure /home is in a separate partition so it won't be a problem in future upgrades
[20:31] <Walex> jebech: then in the 'chroot' you can setup '/dev/', '/sys' and '/proc' and mount '/boot' too
[20:31] <jebech> Walex: I don't know howto mount /boot
[20:31] <Walex> jebech: something like: cd /dev; MAKEDEV std; MAKEDEV sda; mount /sys; mount /proc; mount /dev/sda1 /boot
[20:31] <Walex> jebech: all that after 'chroot'.
[20:31] <paul137> to 666 it seems that it maybe a passwording issue
[20:32] <Walex> jebech: reverse the 'mount' before existing the 'chroot'.
[20:32] <gcbirzan_> what is that makedev crap?
[20:32] <gcbirzan_> this is not 1990
[20:32] <paul137> im going to have delete the folders and then re-establish them
[20:32] <Walex> Carlinhos: do you want o *install* 13.04 or *upgrade* to 13.04?
[20:32] <gcbirzan_> mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev
[20:32] <gcbirzan_> voila
[20:33] <paul137> so here i go - ill report back on my progress
[20:33] <Carlinhos> Walex: I want to install, like a clean install while just leaving my /home untouched
[20:33] <Walex> gcbirzan_: you are assuming that the liveCD and the mounted "root" partition are form the same lineage and use compatbile device names...
[20:33] <gcbirzan_> Walex: what does it matter?
[20:33] <gcbirzan_> Walex: I mean
[20:34] <killer> is there any good decompilers for ubuntu
[20:34] <gcbirzan_> if it they're not, it won't work no matter how much you pray
[20:34] <francesco_>   cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`
[20:34] <cablop|2> gcbirzan_, Walex, thanks for the ideas... i think i am going to install a very very simple window manager, to help people get used to the server here... then use the aps via ssh
[20:34] <ronalds_maz> how to change lightdm configuration, for it to be gtk, not kde one
[20:34] <gcbirzan_> if your current kernel sees it as /dev/bunnies1, creating /dev/sda1 won't help you one bit
[20:34] <iUnify> uT users, do you prefer qbit or dulge?
[20:34] <ronalds_maz> I want default login manager
[20:35] <ronalds_maz> for ubuntu
[20:35] <ronalds_maz> as default
[20:35] <Walex> Carlinhos: well, that's a bit more difficult thasn an upgrade. However you can do it if you are careful with the installer. You will have to do manual partitioning in a shell
[20:35] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager
[20:35] <longbyte1> Hi
[20:35] <zheoffec> hi
[20:35] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: might be --config
[20:36] <longbyte1> I never understood why installing any linux distros always turned out complicated.
[20:36] <Carlinhos> Walex: I'm afraid of messing things up so I'll just do a clean install and make sure /home is in a separate partition this time
[20:36] <zheoffec> ronalds_maz: cant you just uninstall kdm?
[20:36] <gcbirzan_> longbyte1: what, in particular, is complicated?
[20:36] <ronalds_maz> uninstalling kdm wouldn't break something?
[20:36] <longbyte1> Seriously, the installation process is supposed to be SIMPLE, and then when everything goes right, something fails and I have to spend the rest of my day figuring it out
[20:36] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: just try what I suggested
[20:37] <longbyte1> and then realizing that apt-get isn't in the shell
[20:37] <gcbirzan_> what does that even mean
[20:37] <ronalds_maz> ronalds_maz: update-alternatives --configure x-session-manager
[20:37] <ronalds_maz> this doesn't work
[20:37] <gcbirzan_> --config
[20:37] <zheoffec> longbyte1: do you have a problem or do you just want to complain?
[20:37] <gcbirzan_> I corrected myself
[20:37] <gcbirzan_> wow
[20:37] <longbyte1> I kind of have a question.
[20:38] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: nevermind, I'm an idiot
[20:38] <zheoffec> what is it?
[20:38] <longbyte1> What are the minimum requirements for installing lubuntu?
[20:38] <ronalds_maz> it did work, but for changing season
[20:38] <ronalds_maz> so I should remove kdm?
[20:38] <Carlinhos> do i need any more partitions other than / and /home? I have 4GB ram so I guess I don't need a swap partition?
[20:38] <longbyte1> Carlinhos: no, you can just delete the swap partition.
[20:39] <Carlinhos> longbyte1: it's for a new install so it isn't created yet
[20:39] <Carlinhos> but thanks
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Carlinhos, You want a swap if you hibernate.
[20:40] <longbyte1> Yeah, you can just delete the partition and put the free space into the other 2 partitions.
[20:40] <zheoffec> longbyte1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - see the header labeled "System requirements"
[20:40] <Carlinhos> in case I do want to hibernate, how large should my swap partition be with 4GB ram?
[20:40] <longbyte1> But as wilee-nilee just said, if you want to hibernate, you need 4 GB (I think) for swap.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Carlinhos, Yeah swap would be equal to ram.
[20:41] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: Turns out it's in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:41] <longbyte1> zheoffec: doesn't say how much hard drive space I need.
[20:41] <ronalds_maz> config  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[20:41] <ronalds_maz> ?
[20:41] <zheoffec> Carlinhos: I think ubuntu have removed the option to hibernate, leaving only the suspend option - wich i think only suspends to disk, not RAM
[20:41] <gcbirzan_> Just edit it
[20:42] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: It contains the path to the default DM
[20:42] <gcbirzan_> hibernate is suspend to disk
[20:42] <ronalds_maz> so what is default for lightdm
[20:42] <gcbirzan_> that's why you need DISK for it
[20:43] <zheoffec> I generally have my swap as the same as my memory just to be safe
[20:44] <longbyte1> swap depends on what you will be doing
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> you can add the hibernate, and you can suspend without a swap, both are different.
[20:44] <ronalds_maz> /usr/bin/kdm
[20:44] <ronalds_maz> what is alternative for ubuntus default one
[20:44] <longbyte1> If you're going to be playing games, adding swap will decrease performance but meet the requirements.
[20:44] <gcbirzan_> ronalds_maz: also, I think doing dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm should prompt you to select one
[20:45] <gcbirzan_> what the hell
[20:45] <gcbirzan_> longbyte1: decrease performance?
[20:45] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: for hibernate to work, swap need to be slightly larger then physical RAM, it needs to copy everything in RAM, and have room for the overhead of doing so.
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> longbyte1, Only if it swaps, you can set the swappiness different than 60 which is stock.
[20:45] <zheoffec> ronalds_maz: the three polular ones are GDM (GNOME), lightDM (used in Ubuntu), and KDM (KDE)
[20:46] <longbyte1> Yes, because hard drive activity will make read/write much slower.
[20:46] <longbyte1> Just go with wilee-nilee because right now I'm playing M$ flight simulator.
[20:46] <longbyte1> Which is a pretty good game.
[20:46] <Carlinhos> zykotick9: I'm thinking about a swap file instead which I can create after the install
[20:47] <ronalds_maz> I did dpkg-reconfigure -plow kdm and it still uses kdm
[20:47] <zykotick9> longbyte1: swap makes a system faster, if you're actually using swap for memory - then all bets are off.  see "/msg ubottu swap" for confirmation.
[20:47] <gcbirzan_> as opposed to the performance increase of processes dying from no memory?
[20:47] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: i think you need a swap "partition" (by default) for hibernation.
[20:47] <zheoffec> does ubuntu use systemd?
[20:48] <longbyte1> Well, I think this is enough advice because I think of swap like page file for linux.
[20:48] <ronalds_maz> how do I return to classic ubuntu login manager, second tyme questioning
[20:48] <Carlinhos> zykotick9: Didn't know that. Anyway, I never use the total 4GB of my ram capacity, so an equally large swap partition should do I guess.
[20:49] <FFForever> Is it possible to su into another user and cd into a different directory at the same time?
[20:49] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: i don't think hibernate cares about what's in use, if partition doesn't equal ram+a_little i'd expect it to fail (or really, not start with some error).  good luck.
[20:50] <jebech> SonikkuAmerica, Walex, gcbirzan_: Thank you all for your patience and help. In the end, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair this fixed the problem, with 3-4 (albeit borring!) mouse clicks. Might be of help to the next chap.?
[20:50] <zykotick9> FFForever: fyi if you add a - to your su, it should go to that user's home directory
[20:50] <Alex_Slwk> hi
[20:50] <zheoffec> ronalds_maz: have you seen this question - http://askubuntu.com/questions/58023/how-can-i-make-lightdm-the-default-display-manager ?
[20:51] <FFForever> zykotick9, Yes, I am opening a login shell, but I also want to switch into a directory within the user home.
[20:51] <Carlinhos> zykotick9: In that case, should an additional 500MB be enough? I'm still wondering if I will actually use hibernation, someone said Ubuntu doesn't support it anymore.
[20:51] <zykotick9> FFForever: sorry, no further suggestions to your "issue" ;)
[20:52] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: hibernate is disabled by default in ubuntu, due to high failure rate.
[20:52] <jebech> Now, is it possible to make linux/grub "hot" reboot; So I avoid waiting for BIOS and RAID controller?
[20:52] <FFForever> zykotick9, I'm just trying to avoid typing out cd .../.../ 5 times a day. Yes, I could su into the user and alias it, but that still seems like something that could be automated from the initial su.
[20:52] <zheoffec> Carlinhos: the hibernation entry was removed from the me-menu, but that's not to say that ubuntu doesn't support it - you can use hibernation via `pm-hibernate` i think
[20:53] <Carlinhos> zykotick9: I have actually never used it so I'm thinking the additional space would be more useful.
[20:53] <zykotick9> FFForever: su can run command for sure, but cd'ing then leaving the terminal open?  that's a lot more complicated.  best of luck.
[20:54] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: what's cool about hibernate, is that it's an uptime "cheat".  my netbook had a ridiculous uptime, because i always used pm-hibernate, instead of shutting down.  other then that... eh, hibernate is perhaps yesterdays technology - today ;)
[20:55] <ronalds_maz> I made lightdm default but it still shows kdm as login manager
[20:55] <FFForever> zykotick9, Hmm.. What about loading a second bash session within the initial su? Besides a waste of resources it should work in theory.
[20:55] <zheoffec> ronalds_maz: did you see the link i gave you?
[20:55] <ronalds_maz> I saw
[20:55] <ronalds_maz> ....
[20:56] <ronalds_maz> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm this doesn't work
[20:56] <ronalds_maz> neither do next comment in that link
[20:56] <meLon> Ever since 12.X, I haven't been able to get pulseaudio and alsa working together.  I'd really like to take advantage of the ability to have multiple programs outputing sound simutaneously, as well as using pulse in libao.conf.  Any suggestions?
[20:56] <Carlinhos> zykotick9: My boot takes less than 10 secs I think, shouldn't be problem. If I'm not mistaken, Windows8 actually uses the hibernate "cheat" by default.
[20:57] <ronalds_maz> default display manager shows /usr/sbin/lightdm
[20:57] <ronalds_maz> but I got kdm on login
[20:58] <Gnea> ronalds_maz: so remove kdm
[20:58] <FFForever> On an unrelated note, is it possible to automatically login a user on a headless server without using nodm/starting x?
[20:58] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: don't mention MS to me ;)  i'm serious about that.  but ya win8 removes copied files because of the way they hibernate (ridiculous stuff, fsf just put out an info graphic of win8 vs gnu/linux at https://www.fsf.org/windows8 )
[20:59] <Carlinhos> is a /boot partition needed or is it within the / partition?
[20:59] <zheoffec> ronalds_maz: try this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/48903/how-do-i-prevent-kdm-from-starting-at-boot
[20:59] <zheoffec> Carlinhos: it is contained in /
[20:59] <zykotick9> Carlinhos: unless you're doing something "special" don't use a separate /boot (it's not needed anymore, and leads to problems)
[20:59] <Carlinhos> Thanks
[21:00] <dodo3773> Just a quick test. Can anyone read this
[21:00] <Carlinhos> Yes
[21:00] <dodo3773> Carlinhos: Thank you
[21:00] <netherlands6> I have software error on dell inspiron 15R SE The system I have installed is: Ubuntu 13.04 beta2 (why 13.04 beta2? because I no longer have issues with graphic card or booting) I have no sound and I have some messages popup on screen, is there a way to analised the OS and fix those error? in command line, a specific software? Please tell me how.Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Aud
[21:00] <netherlands6> io Controller (rev 04)
[21:00] <ronalds_maz> no still nothing changed, must remove kdm then
[21:01] <zheoffec> does ubuntu use pulseaudio or alsa?
[21:01] <ronalds_maz> but if I will be trown in xserver broken graphics low res or something like that session, I will hate on this for long time, as dealing with multiple DE should be more easy
[21:02] <ronalds_maz> in 2013
[21:02] <zheoffec> ok
[21:02] <ronalds_maz> pulse audio probably
[21:03] <ronalds_maz> pavucontrol is main app behind audio in ubuntu
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 > netherlands6
[21:04] <poisoned_dragon> No, Alsa is the main app behind audio in ubuntu
[21:04] <Vivekananda> libre office messing up the fonts. Do I have to go to windows for this ?
[21:04] <poisoned_dragon> Pulseaudio is just an audio server.
[21:04] <Vivekananda> is there no good alternative for getting correct and good looking letter spacing in ubuntu
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, Did you see the link on kerning, if this is still an issue. Did you install the restricted extras for you dektop, ms fonts are part of that?
[21:05] <zheoffec> poisoned_dragon: alsa is also an audio server
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: Sometimes that happens if you updated components LibreOffice depends on; the kerning goes all outta whck
[21:05] <zheoffec> used in arch ;_
[21:05] <zheoffec> *;)
[21:05] <SonikkuAmerica> s/whck/whack
[21:06] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: I tried all settings of pair kerning with what I have. I have not installed restricted extras. Was that also there in that same link ?
[21:06] <poisoned_dragon> I said that zheoffec.
[21:06] <poisoned_dragon> It's only an audio server.
[21:06] <poisoned_dragon> You can't have pulse without alsa.
[21:07] <netherlands6> wilee-nilee I have no more graphic or boot issue since I got 13.04  just sound and minor bug no one answering on ubuntu+1
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, No it is just part of the video codecs and ms fonts kit.
[21:07] <poisoned_dragon> Well, you could. It just won't do anything.
[21:07] <Gnea> zheoffec: incorrect, alsa is a set of sound drivers - a driver and a server are two entirely different things.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> netherlands6, 13.04 is #ubuntu+1
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> For now
[21:07] <poisoned_dragon> Ok, Gnea. Try and use Pulse without alsa drivers. :)
[21:08] <Vivekananda> hmm so howdo I check for it ?
[21:08] <netherlands6> ok thank again I will wait for an answer maybe tommorow
[21:08] <poisoned_dragon> Oh wait... I read that wrong. Sorry, Gnea
[21:08] <poisoned_dragon> I'm a little spacey.
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, What is your desktop?
[21:08] <Gnea> s'okay :-)
[21:08] <brian_> SonikkuAmerica: Remember me? I'm back. Now running 12.10 (64 bit). Had to DL all the apps from scratch, but it has been worth it. Just wanted to let you know that all is well.
[21:08] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: ubuntu precise
[21:09] <zheoffec> Gnea: so what exactly is a sound server then?
[21:09] <Gnea> I'm not sure if pulseaudio will work with OSS drivers or not, I think it was designed for the alsa api
[21:09] <Vivekananda> sorry lubuntu 12.04
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Vivekananda: #lubuntu has a channel
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, In the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:09] <Gnea> zheoffec: well a driver simply lets a piece of hardware talk to the software (where software = operating system, not a piece of software like firefox)
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> brian_: Awesome! Hope you enjoy Quantal, Raring comes out in 2 weeks
[21:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !
[21:10] <poisoned_dragon> The sound server allows multiple apps to access the sound hardware at the same time.
[21:10] <brian_> SonikkuAmerica: I'll look out for it.
[21:10] <Gnea> zheoffec: a server, in the this meaning of context, is another word for a daemon, which is a piece of software that runs in the background continuously to act as a mediatory to pass information/data from one or more sources onto another
[21:11] <s1pher> when i use sudo apt-get update it gives this message:
[21:11] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[21:11] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:11] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:11] <s1pher> can someone help?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> s1pher  remove the ppa's and be happy
[21:11] <s1pher> how
[21:11] <Gnea> s1pher: it's not there anymore
[21:11] <zheoffec> so alsa can output sound without a server like pulseaudio, but it can only output from one app at a time without a server? (Gnea, poisoned_dragon)
[21:12] <poisoned_dragon> yuppers
[21:12] <s1pher> do i just do sudo apt-get remove  http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[21:12] <ronalds_maz> removing kdm did the trick, if not mentioned I had panic, when unity crashed afterwards
[21:12] <ronalds_maz> how to remove kde theming in ubuntu apps, maybe someone remmbers
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ronalds_maz: You'll want lightdm anyway
[21:13] <Gnea> zheoffec: that depends on the soundcard hardware - if the hardware is a half-duplex card, yes.  if it's full-duplex, then the soundcard can handle multiple sources from within the software at the same time.  The purpose of pulseaudio is to allow half-duplex soundcards to act like full-duplex.
[21:14] <poisoned_dragon> Oh, aren't most newer cards full duplex, Gnea?
[21:14] <Gnea> s1pher: no, you'll need to bring up synaptic and edit your software sources
[21:14] <Gnea> poisoned_dragon: not the cheap ones
[21:14] <s1pher> ok thanks
[21:14] <poisoned_dragon> Well, I don't mean soundmax...
[21:14] <zheoffec> Gnea: in my case its integrated, so i guess its a half-duplex. so pulseaudio mixes the >= 2 audio sources by itself at the expense of latency?
[21:14] <poisoned_dragon> I'm talking Realtek and others like it.
[21:15] <Gnea> zheoffec: yeah, the speed of your overall system will determine how well and how fast they are mixed
[21:15] <poisoned_dragon> Evil Analog Devices. lol
[21:15] <Walex> Gnea: that's a very confused (and probably very wrong) explanation of what PulseAudio is for.
[21:15] <Gnea> zheoffec: worst case scenario is you start to hear some skipping through the speakers
[21:15] <poisoned_dragon> Oh, and VIA. That chip maker is horrible for graphics and almost as bad for audio.
[21:16] <zheoffec> ok
[21:16] <Gnea> Walex: Feel free to offer a better one then.  Your negative comments on my explanation are optional, not required.
[21:16] <poisoned_dragon> heh
[21:17] <Walex> zheoffec: Gnea: PulseAudio tries to solve 2-3 problems: many cards do not dop hardware mixing (which is not the same thing as full duplex), and many applications use different sound APIs.
[21:18] <Walex> zheoffec: Gnea: PulseAdio tries to offer every known sound API, and then does mixing withing itself among all the application sound that arrives over all those APIs.
[21:18] <zheoffec> so what will happen if two apps try to output sound at the same time and i dont have pulseaudio?
[21:19] <Walex> zheoffec: PulseAudio also can do other things than software mixing, like *de*-mixing, and sound effects.
[21:19] <zheoffec> i dont have pulseaudio
[21:19] <Walex> zheoffec: if you don't have PulseAAudio different things can happen depending on the sound APIs used by the applications that try to write sound at the same time.
[21:20] <zheoffec> ok
[21:20] <s1pher> how do I remove http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source
[21:20] <poisoned_dragon> Basically, Pulseaudio in audio is like AVISynth in video production.
[21:20] <Walex> zheoffec: for example if *both* applications use the ALSA sound API, *and* the ALSA library has been setup to do software mixing, then they will both be able to write.
[21:20] <wireless1> Is there a command to force enable a hard blocked wirless card?
[21:20] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: should I restart or just log / in /out for restricted extras to work ?
[21:20] <zheoffec> ok
[21:20] <Walex> zheoffec: but most sound APIs don't povide a means to so sw mixing.
[21:21] <Walex> zheoffec: note that what Gnea wrote about latency is correct: sw mixing does cost a bit in terms of latency.
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, No logout needed.
[21:21] <Physicist> Greetings..
[21:21] <Physicist> How can I check the RAM status in windows 7?
[21:22] <poisoned_dragon> lulz, really Physicist? In an ubuntu room?
[21:22] <Walex> zheoffec: BTW there are some sound cards that can do hw mixing, but they are very rare.
[21:22] <zheoffec> Walex: so i guess that (with my os being arch) i should install pulseaudio then
[21:22] <zheoffec> lol poisoned_dragon
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Physicist, The task manager will list the ram amount or compter right click properties.
[21:23] <Physicist> I hate windows..
[21:23] <Physicist> no offense,,
[21:23] <zheoffec> dont we all
[21:23] <Walex> zheoffec: I don't like PulseAudio for some reasons, but nowadays it is almost mandatory. It is either that or using applications that use only the ALSA sound API.
[21:23] <poisoned_dragon> Physicist: right click the taskbar and select task manager, or press ctrl+alt+del and select task manager
[21:24] <Walex> zheoffec: one of the great ironies is that PulseAudiop as a rule uses the ALSA sound API itself, so the typical setup is to redirect the ALSA API to PulseAudiio, and then PulseAudio uses the base ALSA API itself to write the sound to the card after mixing/adapting it.
[21:24] <wireless1> Alternate quesiton, does anyone know where the wireless button on an acer 5040 is? I'm missing most of the plating on this laptop :P
[21:25] <Walex> sound is unfortunately a complicated story, with a lot of subtle issues if one wants good quality sound.
[21:25] <Physicist> Ok.. I am in Linux Mint.... My stupid uncle have one dell with windows 7... Lord..
[21:25] <Walex> wireless1: try ##hardware
[21:25] <Physicist> LOL
[21:25] <rhizmoe> hi all
[21:26] <ahalverson> hi
[21:26] <poisoned_dragon> wireless1: google image search
[21:26] <zheoffec> Walex: so what would happen if I installed pulse on top of OSS?
[21:26] <Vivekananda> wilee-nilee: so I have to close and reopen libre office then ? or is that too not needed ?
[21:26] <rhizmoe> i have a text file (subversion dump file actually) that I have backed up to another machine. on both machines the file is the same size, but the md5sum's are different. what could cause that?
[21:26] <poisoned_dragon> There is plugin support for pulse and oss.
[21:27] <poisoned_dragon> If I recall correctly
[21:27] <wireless1> poisoned_dragon: Tried that. I just got a bunch of questionably child-safe images
[21:27] <poisoned_dragon> oh gees
[21:27] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: possibly the time you saved/modified the file
[21:27] <OerHeks> wireless http://www.acompatible.com/72-72-thickbox/acer-aspire-5040-keyboard-replacement-brand-new-us-layout.jpg
[21:27] <wireless1> that's internet for ya
[21:27] <Walex> rhizmoe: different SBM keywords?
[21:27] <Walex> rhizmoe: different SVN keywords?
[21:27] <s1pher> how do i remove the how do I remove http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source package?
[21:27] <ronalds_maz> so I had installed kde for some time, and now fonts are weird in firefox bookmarks, how do I manage to get defaults
[21:27] <cloudgeek> my ~/.rvm is empty but my /usr/local/rvm is have all code, now i want make sybolic link ln -s , how i can use
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda, Probably.
[21:28] <cloudgeek> ln -s /usr/local/rvm ~/.rvm
[21:28] <cloudgeek> or
[21:28] <cloudgeek> ln -s ~/.rvm /usr/local/rvm
[21:28] <rhizmoe> Walex: nah, it's one dump that was copied to antoher machine
[21:28] <zheoffec> s1pher: `apt-add-repository -r $REPO`
[21:28] <Physicist> i HATE MY F** UNCLE..
[21:28] <zheoffec> or so i recall
[21:28] <zheoffec> Physicist: allow it
[21:28] <rhizmoe> ahalverson: that figures into md5sum? i'd think that would screw up the fingerprints of all d/l'able files that have them available
[21:29] <Walex> zheoffec: if you install PulseAudio not much will happen. There will be one more dæmon running per each logged in user, and you will get sound mixing across many sound APIs, and optionally the ability (that almost nobody uses) to do pretty sophisticated sound processing between application and sound card.
[21:29] <OerHeks> wireless1, errrr ..... Find the wireless communication button on the front panel of the Acer Aspire 5040 laptop. This is a long, thin button located next to the microphone (Line-in) jack.
[21:29] <Physicist> Thank you all.
[21:30] <cyphase> i'm trying to copy files from an hfs+ formatted partition to an smb share; however, my regular user can't access the files because of permissions, and root can't seem to access the network share (which was created by the regular user instance of nautilus). any suggestions? do i have to manually mount the smb share as root for this to work?
[21:30] <wireless1> Oerheks: I wasn't sure if that was a button. I tried mashing it a few times, and it didn't seem to do anything
[21:30] <zheoffec> ok Walex:
[21:30] <OerHeks> wireless1, it should show a led when enabled, AFAIK
[21:31] <s1pher> zheoffec: it says please add a repository as an augment
[21:31] <wireless1> OerHeks: I'm thinking Ubuntu doesn't have support for that button OOTB then. Nothing happens when I press it :\
[21:31] <zheoffec> s1pher: replace $REPO with the repository name
[21:31] <s1pher> ok
[21:31] <s1pher> thanks
[21:31] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: what ae the filesystems of the drives?
[21:31] <ahalverson> *are
[21:33] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: and how big is the file?
[21:33] <OerHeks> wireless1, oke, does this topic give any help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983100
[21:33] <Physicist> How can I see on W7 like I see with "lspci" on linux?
[21:34] <bt6> I'm trying to change my window title font through GNOME Tweak Tool but it's not changing. Can anyone help?
[21:34] <meLon> Can ALSA be configured for simutaneous ouput?
[21:35] <Merkidemis> I am getting this error when I try to do an apt-get update:  Err http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg
[21:35] <Merkidemis>   Could not create a socket for 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 (f=10 t=1 p=6) - socket (97 Address family not supported by protocol) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[21:35] <Physicist> lpsci windows equivalent?
[21:36] <nightdemon666> anyone know a good weather indicator app for the ubuntu unity panel that doesnt suck? :)
[21:36] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: this might help, http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f128/md5-of-a-file-is-different-on-different-computers-386333.html
[21:37] <zheoffec> nightdemon666: when you say "suck", are you referring to stormcloud?
[21:38] <rhizmoe> ahalverson: the file is about 2GB and filesystems are both Linux/83
[21:38] <nightdemon666> zheoffec, when i say "suck" i mean doesnt shutdown uncommanded. i have issues with indicator-weather form the repo and my-weather-indicator from ppa:atareao... stormcloud is in repos?
[21:38] <rhizmoe> thanks for the link
[21:39] <zheoffec> idk nightdemon666
[21:39] <wireless1> OerHeks: It doens't solve my problem directly, but it might have pointed me in the right direction for things to check :P
[21:39] <wireless1> So, thank you regardless
[21:39] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: how did you copy the file(e.g. cloud, usb)
[21:39] <rhizmoe> SFTP
[21:39] <nightdemon666> zheoffec, just looking for a stable weather indicator that WONT just stop working :P
[21:40] <rhizmoe> i think it might be the 32 vs. 64bit if anything
[21:40] <zheoffec> try stormcloud them
[21:41] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: are your systems 32 and 64 bit?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> nightdemon666, I retries the indicator-weather it did not work here either.
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> retried*
[21:42] <nightdemon666> doesnt thaT SUCK WILLIENILLY?
[21:42] <nightdemon666> sorry for the accidental caps :(
[21:43] <zheoffec> its a new-age-retro-hippie application so it doesnt look very native
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> nightdemon666, Yeah both have been problematic for awhile.
[21:43] <zheoffec> ...or nice
[21:44] <LordDragon> hey all
[21:44] <LordDragon> im having some weird problem where i cant see the titlebars or unity pane or anything. is there a way i can get to the terminal?
[21:44] <zheoffec> LordDragon: Ctrl + Alt + "T"
[21:45] <nightdemon666> wilee-nilee, it bumming me out because i sure do love to have a quick glance at the weather, but you would expect a "stable" release of an os to have "stable" software in the repos :(
[21:45] <meLon> Trying to find someone willing to help me through my ALSA/pulseaudio issues.  It's all over the place and messed up ;_;
[21:45] <zheoffec> or Ctrl + Alt + F2
[21:45] <zheoffec> (LordDragon_)
[21:45] <LordDragon> zheoffec: excellent, that worked thanks
[21:45] <xorred> how can the 'SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1' string be changed on ubuntu? sshd, seen when telnetting
[21:45] <zheoffec> np
[21:45] <nightdemon666> wilee-nilee, do you know if the python3 package resolves the my-weather-indicator app issues, or is it another BS myth, and only works for some people???
[21:46] <rhizmoe> ahalverson: the OSes are different bits
[21:46]  * zheoffec is a don
[21:46] <ahalverson> rhizmoe: oh, that may be the problem(but i wouldnt know, seeing as i only have 32bit)
[21:47] <poisoned_dragon> that depends nightdemon666. Does my-weather-indicator need python3?
[21:49] <nightdemon666> according to the package information, no... it needs python 2.7 poisoned_dragon. but there are reports that say that python 3 solved issues... but ubuntu 12.04 latest python package is 2.7. it doesnt make since :/
[21:49] <rhizmoe> ahalverson: it's one of the things mentioned on the link you pasted, so thanks for that :)
[21:49] <Merkidemis> Is there a way to force apt to use IPv4? I'm trying to do an update and it always tries IPv6 which isn't working
[21:49] <rhizmoe> i suppose i can just transfer it again and if they're the same size that might be OK.
[21:49] <poisoned_dragon> Oh...
[21:49] <ahalverson> you're welcome :)
[21:50] <poisoned_dragon> Well, nightdemon666, maybe you need to find a ppa for python.
[21:50] <zheoffec> nightdemon: `# apt-get install python3`
[21:50] <poisoned_dragon> Then you can install the new python on 12.04
[21:50] <poisoned_dragon> zheoffec: He's saying that the repos for 12.04 don't have python3.
[21:50] <zheoffec> im sure they do...
[21:51] <zheoffec> i thought he meant that the `python` package is python2.7, not the `python3` package
[21:51] <poisoned_dragon> zheoffec is right. I found python3 in the repos
[21:52] <aidan> how can I install libmysql-dev without uninstalling the server/client? http://dpaste.com/1057460/
[21:52] <aidan> Isn't that a weird resolution for aptitude to find?
[21:55] <longbyte1> What is computationally more efficient?
[21:55] <longbyte1> a * 0.5 or a / 2?
[21:55] <poisoned_dragon> I guess a / 2
[21:55] <ayu_> hi
[21:56] <nightdemon666> poisoned_dragon, actually if i HAD to, id just download the python 3 source and compile it my self, but all of that just to get my-weather-indicator to work??? and then not have any updates to a "technically" not supported package in the repos... screw it. id rather have a package that wil be well supported for the life of the ubuntu 12.04 os.
[21:56] <poisoned_dragon> lol, true
[21:56] <zheoffec> nightdemon666: or you could just install `python3`
[21:57] <ayu_> how to install chrom on ubuntu
[21:57] <nightdemon666> izheoffec is python 3 not an upgrade of python 2??? or just install via source?
[21:57] <zheoffec> ayu_: google chrome or chromium?
[21:58] <nightdemon666> separate packages???
[21:58] <ayu_> chromium
[21:58] <ayu_> not source
[21:58] <longbyte1> ayu_: apt-get install chromium?
[21:58] <zheoffec> nightdemon666: they are seperate packages in the ubuntu repos
[21:58] <ayu_> it hava an error
[21:58] <zheoffec> ayu_: `# apt-get install chromium-browser`
[21:58] <poisoned_dragon> what error?
[21:58] <poisoned_dragon> oh
[21:58] <poisoned_dragon> lol
[21:58] <zheoffec> chromium is some game
[21:59] <ayu_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:59] <ayu_> chromium-browser: Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but 1:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[21:59] <ayu_>                   Depends: libudev0 (>= 147) but 175-0ubuntu9.2 is to be installed
[21:59] <ayu_>                   Depends: zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg) but 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu4 is to be installed
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> nightdemon666, No Idea.
[21:59]  * |nv|s|b|e is not known as |nv|s|b|e 
[21:59] <ayu_> what
[21:59] <nightdemon666> i see... well, anyway.. so the reason i backed out of doing the install of python3 is because the dependency to my-weather-indicator in ppa:atareao is python 2.7, so i think the real problem is something else... i guess i'd rather find a package that works with out more work that i shoul;d have to do :/
[21:59] <longbyte1> what did you set your sources to
[22:00] <longbyte1> ohhhh
[22:00] <longbyte1> you have to install those dependencies as well
[22:01] <zheoffec> nightdemon666: since a lot of apps still use python2, the default python package is python2.7, and python3 is left uninstalled. the two production versions of python are 2.7 and 3.3 by the Python Software Foundation
[22:01] <ayu_> i am a fish   only to use chrom ,not firefix
[22:01] <ayu_> but I can't install
[22:02] <psichas> yes you can believe it
[22:02] <zheoffec> why cant a fish use firefox?
[22:02] <psichas> :D
[22:02] <zheoffec> or epiphany?
[22:02] <|nv|s|b|e> ?, a fish ?
[22:02] <ayu_> yeah  , a fish
[22:02] <poisoned_dragon> lulz
[22:03] <|nv|s|b|e> sounds fishy
[22:03] <zheoffec> lol
[22:03] <poisoned_dragon> Firefox is no flipper friendly, apparently.
[22:03] <psichas> whre big fishes? :D
[22:03] <ayu_> ha   my english is so poor
[22:04] <|nv|s|b|e> were all oor
[22:04] <|nv|s|b|e> p
[22:04] <psichas> me too
[22:04] <zheoffec> we are all fish, really
[22:04] <zheoffec> swimming in the sea of life
[22:04] <ayu_> i think so
[22:05] <nightdemon666> i see... well it may well indicate that installation of python 3 will solve my problems. hopefully. back to removing indicator-weather, because its being a bastard, and back to installing my-weather-indicator and python 3. laterz
[22:14] <psichas> whitch linux use Linus Torvalds? :)
[22:14] <poisoned_dragon> lol... I'm sure he builds his own.
[22:14] <zheoffec> arch?
[22:14] <zheoffec> or LFS
[22:14] <poisoned_dragon> No, from source
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> RMS even built his own custom BIOS
[22:15] <zheoffec> LFS then
[22:15] <zheoffec> !coreboot
[22:15] <Merkidemis> Is there a way to force apt to use IPv4? I'm trying to do an update and it always tries IPv6 which isn't working
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Merkidemis  simply disable IPv6
[22:16] <DuckKie> anyone know why  "konsole --new-tab" would open a new window instead of a new tab?
[22:16] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: How would I go about doing that?
[22:16] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: I am on lucid server
[22:17] <jab416171> how do I make insmod persist across reboots?
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> Merkidemis  look for the word 'disable' on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[22:19] <zheoffec> jab416171: modprobe? or add the module to /etc/modules-load.d/
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> Merkidemis  there's also this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[22:19] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: one sec, I had tried the blacklist, but not in blacklist.local like the first page suggests
[22:20] <jab416171> zheoffec: care to elaborate?
[22:20] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: doing what was on the second page had no effect
[22:20] <zheoffec> modprobe $MODULE
[22:21] <jab416171> it says "Module not found"
[22:21] <zheoffec> or echo $MODULE > /etc/modules-load.d/$MODULE
[22:21] <zheoffec> did you replace $MODULE with the module name?
[22:21] <jab416171> yes
[22:21] <jab416171> I have no "/etc/modules-load.d"
[22:21] <zheoffec> what is the module?
[22:22] <jab416171> chromeos_laptop and atmel_mxt_ts
[22:22] <zheoffec> oh, that directory's only in arch then, sorry
[22:22] <zheoffec> so it works with insmod?
[22:22] <jab416171> yes
[22:24] <jab416171> zheoffec: I followed this: http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/chromebook_pixel_linux.txt
[22:25] <zheoffec> see if the module exists: `lsmod | grep chomeos_laptop`
[22:25] <jab416171> it does
[22:25] <jab416171> (but only because I ran insmod)
[22:26] <zheoffec> modprobe looks in a specific directory to load modules
[22:26] <zheoffec> let me look it up...
[22:28] <zheoffec> its in /etc/modules, so you will need to copy the *.ko files to that directory then you can modprobe them
[22:28] <jab416171> I rebooted, and now it's not showing up
[22:28] <jab416171> what directory?
[22:28] <zheoffec> `/etc/modules/`
[22:28] <jab416171> I copied them to the directories specified in that text file (changing 3.2.0-4-amd64 appropriately)
[22:29] <zheoffec> copy them to /etc/modules
[22:29] <jab416171> /etc/modules is a file
[22:29] <zheoffec> *copy them to /etc/modules/
[22:30] <jab416171> mkdir /etc/modules && cp chromeos_laptop.ko /etc/modules/ ?
[22:31] <jab416171> is that what you want me to do?
[22:31] <zheoffec> so sorry, i mistook it for the wrong location.
[22:32] <zheoffec> its actually at /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[22:32] <zheoffec> i think you will have to judge for yourself as to where to place the .ko files once you are in there
[22:33] <zheoffec> sorry, i must go to sleep now
[22:33] <zheoffec> bye
[22:33] <jab416171> right, I copied them to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/touchscreen/atmel_mxt_ts.ko and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/chromeos_laptop.ko
[22:35] <Guest43498>  Hello.  I am just wondering if I should use Ubuntu-Gnome or use regular Ubuntu and install all of the Gnome things myself.
[22:36] <vectorlynx> hi
[22:44] <ironfoot495> I'm trying to install a brother printer and no matter what I do it will not respond. I have downloaded the deb. drivers but it just wont respond. I really need help after 3 hours of faiulure. thanks in advance.
[22:44] <ironfoot495> A mfcj615w
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> !cups
[22:45] <jakingtosch> hi
[22:45] <dr_willis> ironfoot495:  last time someone was downloading brother debs.. they sort of discovered the drivers were allready in the repos under one of the several brother-driver packages
[22:46] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: Now I get errors W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not create a socket for 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 (f=10 t=1 p=6) - socket (97 Address family not supported by protocol) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[22:46] <ironfoot495> dr_willis: yes that is true but I can't get it to respond?
[22:47] <Frogging101> I don't know if I should reinstall Ubuntu or go for another distro... I *really* don't like the direction they're taking it in
[22:47] <dr_willis> you may want to check askubuntu.com about your exact printer. My brother was totally plug in and away it went. ;)
[22:47] <ironfoot495> dr_willis: ok I'll give it a try.
[22:48] <python|pi> I'm on Kali linux (gnome) what is a good countdown timer say I need 5 min only on the clock and then alarm sound?
[22:48] <jakingtosch> hey there, i have got a little problem with kubuntu 13.04. I have downloaded it and tried to install the ati grafic driver. As i tried to run the installer he told me that gcc is missing. using apt-get install build-essential i got: Package build-essential is not available
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> python|pi  better ask in the kali channel
[22:49] <python|pi> it's all ubuntu MonkeyDust same softares
[22:49] <python|pi> what do you use?
[22:49] <dr_willis> jakingtosch:  do an sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade and try again.. and see #ubuntu+1 for 13.04
[22:49] <dr_willis> python|pi:  no its not ubuntu.
[22:49] <jakingtosch> thx
[22:49] <dr_willis> python|pi:  use the package manager tools and search and see whats in the repos.
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> python|pi  this is ubuntu support, type /msg ali list *kali* to look for the kali channel
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> alis*
[22:51] <python|pi> no such command MonkeyDust its looking for a person to message
[22:51] <dr_willis> !alis
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> python|pi  why did you come to this channel in the first place?
[22:52] <ornj> Is a dm necessary to enable a guest account?
[22:52] <dr_willis> ornj:  i think so.
[22:52] <ornj> :7
[22:52] <ornj> kthx
[22:52] <dr_willis> since the guest account is sort of made on the fly, then removed when exited
[22:52] <dr_willis> differnt ubuntu releases have done guest accounts differntly
[22:53] <ornj> How some some others done it?
[22:53] <dr_willis> i dont recall. i never use the feature
[22:54]  * ornj nods
[22:54] <ornj> Thanks
[22:54] <dr_willis> in some you had to login as a user. then switch to 'guest' mode
[22:55] <el_seano> !raring
[22:55] <el_seano> !release
[22:57] <Merkidemis> MonkeyDust: any further suggestions?
[22:58] <kim_bruning> what does the option "install alongside windows 7" actually *do*. I tried googling, but I get all kinds of fluffy stuff. I'm trying to figure out what partitions ubuntu tried to make where, or what files ubuntu tried to make where, so I can delete them and start over
[22:58] <jab416171> how do I make insmod persist across reboots?
[23:00] <dr_willis> !modules
[23:00] <dr_willis> its odd that you need to  insmod by hand...
[23:00] <python|pi> do you guys know anything about qtcurve on ubuntu?
[23:01] <python|pi> vitimiti has quit (Quit: [BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.2-final for Windows CE today!)
[23:01] <python|pi> baa haah ahaa
[23:02] <jab416171> dr_willis: "module-assistant: command not found"
[23:02] <dr_willis> !find module-assistant
[23:02] <dr_willis> !info module-assistant
[23:03] <dr_willis> the default ubuntu setup should have told you what package to install to get that commande
[23:03] <vanting> Hmm.. How come, I can't change permission on a folder with "chmod 777 folder" ? The command runs, but nothing changes..
[23:03] <jab416171> nope
[23:03] <dr_willis> vanting:  detauls on where the folder is at and what fs its on...
[23:03] <zykotick9> vanting: is the partition ntfs or fat?
[23:03] <kim_bruning> vanting, do you have sufficient permissions to change the permissions? ;-)
[23:04] <dr_willis> then we have to ask .. why do you need it 777 ;)
[23:04] <vanting> kim_bruning > Yeah, I use sudo.
[23:04]  * kim_bruning scratches head
[23:04] <kim_bruning> which directory are you chmodding?
[23:05] <jab416171> dr_willis: I ran apt-get install module-assistant, but the module I want isn't in the list when I go to "SELECT"
[23:05] <dr_willis> jab416171:  all i know about the topuic was mentioned in the bots factoid.. ive never needed to mess with it
[23:05] <kim_bruning> vanting, which directory are you trying to chmod? if it's in /mnt or /media, that might not do what you expect
[23:05] <vanting> Aah...
[23:05] <vanting> It's in media
[23:06] <kim_bruning> vanting, Ah. ;-)
[23:06] <jab416171> dr_willis: ok thanks
[23:06] <dr_willis> vanting:  and what FILESYSTEM is the directory using?
[23:06] <vanting> vfat
[23:06] <kim_bruning> vanting, in that case, the options given to mount are more important than the dir permissions ;-)
[23:06] <vanting> Ofcourse..
[23:06] <dr_willis> vanting: thats why then,, you dont chonw/chmod theose
[23:06] <vanting> Thanks
[23:06] <kim_bruning> vanting, oh, well, vfat can't do chmod at all ;-)
[23:06] <zykotick9> vanting: vfat & ntfs are not POSIX, then don't understand linux/unix permissions
[23:07] <histo> vanting: because fat partition mount point permissions are controlled when they are mounted
[23:07] <mojeime> hi can somone help e
[23:07] <kim_bruning> zykotick9, and here I thought ntfs did grok posix, according to ms?
[23:07] <histo> vanting: so you can remount it and change permissions
[23:07] <kim_bruning> zykotick9, (sorry, sacrcastic remark... I'm in a sarcastic mood today :-P)
[23:07] <vanting> Yeah thanks for the help. :)
[23:07] <histo> !mount | vanting
[23:08] <mojeime> i just want to insatll ubuntu so my question is how much speace i need for root and do i need to have /home  partrition ?
[23:09] <dr_willis> mojeime:  /  - i always use at least 20gb.. ive filled up 10gb / befor.
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> kim_bruning, For partition info use gparted from the live cd.
[23:09] <histo> vanting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/96923/how-do-i-change-permissions-on-a-fat32-formatted-drive/96929#96929
[23:09] <dr_willis>  /home/ as big as youi can get/need
[23:09] <mojeime> dr_willis:  ok so 20 gb for root and all other for home
[23:09] <dr_willis> a seperate /home/ is very handy later on when upgradeing/reinstalling
[23:09] <dr_willis> but not required
[23:10] <mojeime> dr_willis:  if it is bether i will do seperate
[23:11] <mojeime> dr_willis:  i did 1gb boot 6gb swap
[23:11] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in a seperate /boot/ for most people.
[23:12] <zykotick9> mojeime: dr_willis +1, a separate /boot is more likely to CAUSE issues (in modern times)
[23:12] <mojeime> zykotick9:  why
[23:13] <zykotick9> mojeime: it's gonna fill up...
[23:13] <vanting> Changed fstab, rebooted the machine and now the permissions looks like it should :)
[23:13] <mojeime> zykotick9:  it is wierd to me why isent it all on 1 partrition like windows
[23:14] <mojeime> zykotick9:  so i shoud delete boot
[23:14] <zykotick9> mojeime: ? it can be.  don't use /boot unless you have a need.
[23:14] <dr_willis> windows is weirder in many other ways
[23:14] <zykotick9> mojeime: i mean, as a separate partition, just leave it under /
[23:14] <dr_willis> im not even sure how in windows you could have all your 'users' stuff on a seperate hard drive or partition.. in linux. its trivial
[23:14] <mojeime> zykotick9:  so haveing boot is bad
[23:14] <CorruptedHelix> Hi, this isn't necessarily an Ubuntu problem, but I felt this might be one of the better places to ask; My SD card is 2gb, and has been allocated into a 256mb and 1.51gb partition. I can't figure out how to set the primary partition, or (preferably) merge the two partitions using Windows Disk Manager. I do have Ubuntu installed, so I can switch to that if needed.
[23:15] <dr_willis> mojeime:  if you dont have a reason for a /boot/ partition.. then dont use one
[23:15] <zykotick9> mojeime: unless you have a SPECIFIC reason for it = YES
[23:15] <kim_bruning> zykotick9, mojeime , some people leave /boot unmounted normally... it's a bit of extra security
[23:15] <kim_bruning> mojeime, if you don't know what you need it for, don't worry about it
[23:15] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  i had issues repartioning a sd card in windows the other day.. it was just brain dead.. i had to use gparted. ;)
[23:16] <vanting> dr_willis > What isn't brain dead in windows?
[23:16] <CorruptedHelix> I guess I'll give it a try then, ugh. I don't like having to reboot and switch OSes much, and I would use Ubuntu more often if I had luck with it. My games run horribly under WINE or regularly, and my graphics card and headset don't have drivers for Linux
[23:16] <zykotick9> vanting: i'm not disagreeing, but that's OT for #ubuntu
[23:16] <mojeime> kim_bruning:  i think  /boot is for space for boot tools like hierin boot
[23:17] <CorruptedHelix> I'll come back if I have any more problems, thanks for the assistance, dr_willis
[23:17] <zykotick9> mojeime: herin (or whatever it's called), is non-free don't use it.  </OT>
[23:17] <mojeime> zykotick9:  i wont use it i just made an example
[23:18] <CorruptedHelix> Windows is a half decent OS in my opinion, but I'm in #ubuntu and very likely outnumbered, so I won't try justifying it
[23:18] <CorruptedHelix> I won't get anywhere
[23:18] <CorruptedHelix> G'bye.
[23:18] <vanting> CorruptedHelix > If you want to use it more, don't use anything else. That's how I switched. You'll beforced to learn how to use the system ;)
[23:19] <CorruptedHelix> vanting: My AMD card has no support for it, nor does my 7.1 headset
[23:19] <mojeime> zykotick9:  so i can install all on 1 partrition
[23:19] <CorruptedHelix> My games which I spend a lot of time on run horribly on Linux but just fine on Windows, WINE or not
[23:19] <CorruptedHelix> If I had a better laptop I'd surely use a Linux distro
[23:19] <zykotick9> in the old days, /boot was required, as BIOS's couldn't boot anything past a certain bit location - that's been fixed a long time ago.  now it required for special raid/encryption setups...
[23:20]  * dr_willis has never figured out how you get 7.1 in a headset.. ;) and yes ive owned them befor..
[23:20] <mojeime> zykotick9:  so beascly now people use it for more security
[23:20] <kim_bruning> mojeime, nope. It's where your actual kernel is stored, and grub files, and your initrd, and stuff :-)
[23:20] <kim_bruning> mojeime, ok, so that's sort of boot tools ;-)
[23:21] <kim_bruning> mojeime, the file "/boot/vmlinuz..." (it'll have a longer name)... is your actual gen-u-ine linux kernel, the actual linux ;-)
[23:22] <zykotick9> mojeime: sorta'  don't use one unless you have too.  is my suggestion.
[23:22] <mojeime> ok so i shoud create 1 partrition and install all on it or i shoud i creat /root /swap /home
[23:23] <dr_willis> swap is not mounted.. and has to be its own partion. ;)
[23:23] <zykotick9> mojeime: yes, isn't that the default?
[23:23] <dr_willis> minimal normal setup   /  and swap
[23:23] <dr_willis> typical setup  /   /home  and swap
[23:23] <zykotick9> dr_willis: +1 again
[23:23] <mJayk> I cant seam to get my swap to mount any ideas?
[23:23] <mojeime> ok ok
[23:23] <vanting> CorruptedHelix > You could get a xbox or playstation.
[23:23] <dr_willis> mJayk:  what are you doing exactly?
[23:23] <zykotick9> doh, mojeime /home can be on / as well (if you want)
[23:24] <mJayk> dr_willis: first I edited my fstab then I tried to recreate the partition in gparted
[23:24] <mojeime> so 20gb / then 100gb /home then 6gb /swap
[23:24] <dr_willis> mJayk:  so whats your fstab entry for swap? you did use mkswap to 'format' the swap partition?
[23:24] <zykotick9> mojeime: 6GB swap seems like a lot...
[23:24] <scott_> I'm in 13.04 and I have no Unity interface. How can I begin to fix this?
[23:25] <mJayk> dr_willis: I used gparted to formate to linux-swap
[23:25] <mJayk> dr_willis: 2 secs ill get my fstab
[23:25] <dr_willis> !swap
[23:26] <mojeime> zykotick9:  i would like for home to be on root it confuses me when it is another partrition, i read thet swap shoud be duble ram
[23:26] <mojeime> but i realy dont know what uses 9gb of ram
[23:26] <kim_bruning> dr_willis, + don't do swap on SSD (is still the conventional wisdom)
[23:27] <kim_bruning> dr_willis, and swap is also used for hibernate
[23:27] <mJayk> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/bgPjM27G
[23:27] <dr_willis> I frogot to make swap on my ssd. ;) when i installed it.
[23:27] <kim_bruning> dr_willis, GOOD.
[23:27] <dr_willis> Then again.. i got 8 gb ram.. and never touch swap that ive seen
[23:27] <Gnarly> is it still the case with a ssd to use a non journal fs?
[23:27] <dr_willis> Gnarly:  with newer ssds im not sure that a lot of the old wisdom still applies
[23:27] <mJayk> dr_willis: I did have to change the UUID as it was wrong
[23:27] <mojeime> ok so i create just /root 100gb and swap 5gb
[23:28] <dr_willis> mJayk:  ;) or you could use the /dev/sdX type name
[23:28] <Gnarly> thanks
[23:28] <mJayk> dr_willis: The name is correct now I just cant seam to do bugger all with it
[23:29] <dr_willis> mJayk:  you did notice your line for swap.. is commented... so not used..
[23:29] <dr_willis> or am i missreading.. ;)
[23:29] <CorruptedHelix> Looks like I ran into a problem, dr_willis
[23:29] <kim_bruning> mojeime, not /root ... just /
[23:29] <dr_willis> ok.. another entry for it. ;)
[23:29] <mojeime> kim_bruning:  i thinked this / means root
[23:29] <CorruptedHelix> I'm currently on Ubuntu, and gparted errored out when it tried to scan my SD card. Ubuntu is also unable to mount the SD card, and tells me so when I try to open it's 266mb volume on the file explorer
[23:29] <dr_willis>  / is 'root'   /root/ is the root users home directory. ;)
[23:30] <kim_bruning> mojeime, yes....   / means root, and ... for hysterical (I mean historical reasons)   /root is something else :-P
[23:30] <captine> hi there.  is there a way for me to quickly see the non-default applications i have installed?  am wanting to try play with puppet and have the config such that it installs all this "non-default" software on new machines
[23:30] <mojeime> kim_bruning:  and what shoud i put ext2 sys file or what
[23:30] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  anything of any value on it? you may want to zero it out with dd.and repartion it
[23:30] <kim_bruning> mojeime, why are you using ext2?
[23:31] <mJayk> dr_willis: no its not thats the old UUID check the bottom line
[23:31] <CorruptedHelix> I'm sorry, but I'm a Linux noob, I don't know what that means. The error message is long so I'll try to shorten it, but what I can tell you while I do that is that gparted sees the 1.83gb unallocated partition, but not the 266mb unallocated
[23:31] <mojeime> kim_bruning:  i am asking what to put ext2 , ext4 jouranling , fat32 or what i dont know what are prons and cons
[23:31] <Gnarly> thats probably for the formatting itself
[23:32] <dr_willis> mojeime:  when in doubgt.. use the defaults.. ext4
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: End of the error message is the following; 'mount: /dev/mmcblk0p1: can't read superblock'
[23:32] <kim_bruning> mojeime, ah, ok, use ext4 for now
[23:32] <mojeime> dr_willis:  i dident know it is defoult it was just on top so i hed to ask
[23:32] <CorruptedHelix> I'll take a screenshot if you want the full message, dr_willis
[23:32] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:   sounds like the thing has issues.. may be worth zeroing it out and repartionng.
[23:32] <kim_bruning> mojeime, in a year or so btrfs would be better, but just do ext4 if you don't know what else to do ;-)
[23:33] <CorruptedHelix> How would I do that?
[23:33] <mojeime> kim_bruning: ok ty
[23:33] <CorruptedHelix> Zeroing it out, I mean
[23:33] <CorruptedHelix> I know how to repartition it
[23:33] <Gnarly> heres from ubuntu's website
[23:33] <Gnarly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemsExplained
[23:33] <Gnarly> explains different filesystems
[23:33] <mojeime> kim_bruning:  ext4 journaling ofcours
[23:34] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  with CAREfull use of the dd command..   somthing similer to 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mccblk0 bs=1M'   this WILL erase everything on that sd card/ and if you use the wrong /dev/ it can erase that also.
[23:34] <mojeime> mount point is / or corse?
[23:34] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: Nothing of value on it, to answer your previous question. I tried reformatting it thrice already on Windows
[23:34] <CorruptedHelix> Um, I'm not sure how to tell if it would be the correct /dev/. As I said, I'm a linux noob, unfortunately
[23:35] <mojeime> dr_willis:  swap partrition is logical or pramary
[23:35] <kim_bruning> CorruptedHelix, in that case, take extreme care ;-)
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix> well
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix> that makes me feel good
[23:35] <kim_bruning> CorruptedHelix, sudo  AND dd together is a rather powerful combo ;-)
[23:35] <CorruptedHelix> :l
[23:35] <kim_bruning> CorruptedHelix, you're welcome O:-)
[23:35] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: You can likely find the correct dev in gparted or similar.
[23:36] <mojeime> shoud i put swap to be logical partrition or primary?
[23:37] <CorruptedHelix> Well, I have /dev/sda which is my hdd, /dev/sdb, which is my USB stick, and I have /dev/mccblk0, my SD card
[23:38] <kim_bruning> ok
[23:38] <kim_bruning> well, it's rather hard to mistype /dev/mccblk0 ;-)
[23:38] <mojeime> shoud i put swap to be logical partrition or primary????
[23:38] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: I just noticed that your mount error says 'mmc' while gparted says 'mcc'- is this a typo or is something weird going on?
[23:38] <kim_bruning> mojeime, doesn't matter. If you only want 4 partitions, just make them all primary
[23:39]  * kim_bruning wonders why ubuntu doesn't do lvm by default these days
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> mojeime, It's called a linux swap in gparted
[23:39] <CorruptedHelix> brightspark: not an error, where would gparted say mcc
[23:39] <mojeime> ok
[23:39] <mojeime> kim CorruptedHelix ty
[23:39] <CorruptedHelix> They both show the same filepath spelled the same way, except for a 'p' after the 0
[23:40] <kim_bruning> CorruptedHelix, btw, you may want to umount your card before you wipe it :-)
 dr_willis: End of the error message is the following; 'mount: /dev/mmcblk0p1: can't read superblock'
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> fair enough
 Well, I have /dev/sda which is my hdd, /dev/sdb, which is my USB stick, and I have /dev/mccblk0, my SD card
[23:40] <CorruptedHelix> want a screenshot to confirm?
[23:41] <brightspark> Can you show the error message as well in the screenshot?
[23:41] <mojeime> i have 80 gb free speace i gona cry
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> yeah
[23:41] <CorruptedHelix> I'll show you a screenshot of the error +gparted
[23:42] <CorruptedHelix> uploading to imgur now, only a sec
[23:42] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  using dd to zero it will totally unallocate and erase the device. it will then need to be repartioned
[23:42] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  if dd fails to zero it.. then the device has issues
[23:43] <CorruptedHelix> actually
[23:43] <vanting> Does anyone know, where to get keymaps for rdesktop?
[23:43] <CorruptedHelix> if the screenshots actually saved in the correct directory
[23:43] <CorruptedHelix> that would be helpful
[23:43] <CorruptedHelix> :p
[23:43] <zikl> Sometimes the "="/"+" key wouldn't type like if i put my finger on the key it would miss 1 time out of 20 times. I got my laptop like a week ago. Should I ask for replacement?
[23:43] <HerbertWest> hi there, on  Xubuntu.. I can't set a password option at start
[23:43] <kim_bruning> zikl, try tapping the key whilst blowing under it
[23:44] <kim_bruning> zikl, sometimes there's just a crumb or something under there
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> HerbertWest, At start of what?
[23:44] <CorruptedHelix> Image editor built into ubuntu? I think my screenshot is saving to my clipboard
[23:44] <CorruptedHelix> :p
[23:44] <HerbertWest> wilee-nilee at login
[23:44] <zikl> kim_bruning: I tried, still I have to maintain certain pressure on it.
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> HerbertWest, Can you explain that more clearly, not sure what you mean by passwrod option.
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> password*
[23:45] <vanting> Nevermind about the keymaps, solved it.
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> Trying to get these screenshots, brightspark
[23:45] <CorruptedHelix> :p
[23:46] <HerbertWest> wilee-nilee Xubuntu doesn't ask me for a login password...
[23:46] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: thanks
[23:46] <dr_willis> disable the auto-login for lightdm ;)
[23:46] <CorruptedHelix> Yeah, fullscreen screenshots save to your clipboard instead of the Pictures dir
[23:46] <CorruptedHelix> which is kind of stupid
[23:46] <Merkidemis> Can someone assist me? I am trying to do an apt-get update, but keep getting the following error: Err http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security/main Translation-en_US
[23:46] <Merkidemis>   Could not create a socket for 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 (f=10 t=1 p=6) - socket (97 Address family not supported by protocol) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[23:46] <HerbertWest> dr_willis ty
[23:47] <CorruptedHelix> so I'm putting them in gimp now
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> HerbertWest, This is a install right, you would have made one in the install. Have you set it to autologin?
[23:47] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  so the dd command failed?
[23:47] <HerbertWest> wilee-nilee as dr_willis said it
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> Yep ;)
[23:48] <Merkidemis> I can ping security.ubuntu.com just fine, why doesn't APT see it?
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: giving brightspark screenshots first, had some trouble due to an inconsistancy in ubuntu
[23:48] <markmcb> Anyone have an issue after a fresh install where the network becomes unresponsive for 10-30 seconds … I've never had it before, but am noticing it with 13.04 Beta 2. Curious if there's known culprit.
[23:48] <CorruptedHelix> just another minute, brightspark
[23:48] <markmcb> oh, and it happens repeatedly, not just once
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> markmcb,  #ubuntu+1 is the 13.04 channel
[23:49] <markmcb> wilee-nilee: thanks
[23:50] <mojeime> why shoud i encript my home folder?
[23:50] <CorruptedHelix> brightspark: http://imgur.com/Q993uUy,yHdyrIx
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> mojeime, It is a matter of choice.
[23:52] <dr_willis> mojeime:  when in doubt.. dont
[23:52] <Merkidemis> Anyone? I'd appreciate any help, as I'v been fighting this problem all day
[23:52] <mojeime> i dident
[23:53] <mojeime> realy dont need it  i am poor dont have anything good on pc xD
[23:54] <CorruptedHelix> brightspark: Still with us?
[23:54] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: So in that error message, you had 'mmc'
[23:54] <CorruptedHelix> I just showed you the two screenshots, that page contains two screenshots, if you didn't see that
[23:54] <CorruptedHelix> For comparison reasons
[23:54] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: Sorry, you're right.  I just saw the 1st.  Just a sec
[23:54] <CorruptedHelix> brightspark: Okay then
[23:55] <mojeime> i turned off install third party and instal mp3 beacuse i dident want to insall any stupit thing i will apt-get manual what i need
[23:55] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: Okay so gparted also has 'mmc'.  That's a good thing.
[23:56] <s1pher> when i do 'sudo apt-get update' i get this error
[23:56] <CorruptedHelix> brightspark: Notably, the error has '0p' while gparted only has 'p'
[23:56] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[23:56] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:56] <s1pher> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/slicer/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[23:56] <CorruptedHelix> mmcblk0p1 is shown on the error message, mmcblp0 is shown on gparted
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> if that's relevant
[23:57] <CorruptedHelix> *blk
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> s1pher, That ppa has not been loaded since 2007, there is no support for qauntal.
[23:57] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  p1 is PARTITION 1.. you want to zero the whole disk.. so no p1
[23:57] <brightspark> CorruptedHelix: Yes.  I was just confirming that GParted had 'mmc' and not 'mcc' as you originally said, because that would be a sign of something gone very weird.
[23:57] <dr_willis> mmcblk0
[23:57] <s1pher> wilee-nilee: how do i get rid of it?
[23:58] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  with CAREfull use of the dd command..   somthing similer to 'sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mccblk0 bs=1M'   this WILL erase everything on that sd card/ and if you use the wrong /dev/ it can erase that also.
[23:58] <CorruptedHelix> Yes, must've typoed that and didn't notice even when you pointed it out... :p
[23:58] <Merkidemis> it seems like apt-get is trying to use ipv6, and failing.  How can I force it to use ipv4?
[23:58] <sama-kun> Hey! I want to reinstall my Ubuntu 12.10 system. Is it safe to use 13.04 beta or it will be pain and suffering to upgrade it later?
[23:58] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: I'm sure that /dev/zero is relevant, but on bootup my Win8 partition is reported as /sda/1
[23:58] <dr_willis> not all sdhc cards show up under the mccblk type names.. it depens on the pc. and how the sc card controller is attatched
[23:58] <CorruptedHelix> chance of failure is?
[23:59] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  the /dev/XX of the sd.. depends on the pc/hardware
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> s1pher, easiest is gksudo nautilus this open the file system in root navigate to /etc/apt.sources.list.d and delete the files with that name. Be very careful in doing this.
[23:59] <nexus`> sama-kun: you can set a separate partition for your home directory
[23:59] <s1pher> wilee-nilee:  ok
[23:59] <CorruptedHelix> Again, how can I check this for sure other than /dev/mccblk0
[23:59] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  if you had a multi-card reader that pluged into usb. it wold be sdb or somting like that
[23:59] <CorruptedHelix> because that's all I see
[23:59] <dr_willis> CorruptedHelix:  sudo blkid
[23:59] <CorruptedHelix> dr_willis: my laptop has hardware support for sd
[23:59] <sama-kun> nexus`: and I should to it, because breakage is expected?
[23:59] <sama-kun> s/to/do/