valorieright -- and the ubuntu wikis usually have the best way to attack the problem logically00:01
valoriefrom the most common/easiest to test00:01
valoriedown to the corner cases00:01
Artakhaalso you should post more information, for instance what router model is this? i'm no expert at this but this stuff is commonly asked00:02
Artakhaso it's a good idea to keep the info ready and post it when you ask your question00:02
Artakhaproviding as much useful information as possible kind of increases the possibility of getting the right answer00:03
yahyaa_Im running kubuntu 12.10 not ubuntu00:06
valoriekubuntu is ubuntu+KDE00:07
Artakhakubuntu is just ubuntu with a different desktop though00:07
* valorie goes off to eat dinner00:07
Artakhayahyaa_, and odds are that, since it's wireless that we're talking about, it's not kde-related00:08
Artakhathis channel has 243 users while #ubuntu is the second largest on freenode with 1642 users atm00:09
Artakhawell, 244 now00:10
Artakhaalmost 7 times as big. can't hurt to ask00:10
yahyaa_so how do I switch to this ubuntu channel???00:13
Artakhayahyaa_, /join #ubuntu00:14
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yahyaa_so what am I supposed to type that in here???00:15
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yahyaa_yahyaa_, /join #ubuntu00:16
Artakhauhm remove the highlighting bit first00:16
Artakha/join #ubuntu00:16
Artakhalike that00:16
FloodBotK1Artakha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:17
pyToolmakerhi, how can I change (increase) dpi for fonts in lightdm kde greeter? the xft-dpi thing from the unity greeter doesnt work00:27
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yahyaacan someone help me get my scanner to work in kubuntu?02:23
ubottuScanning software: simple-scan (GNOME), Gwenview (KDE), Xsane. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR02:27
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yahyaaomg can someone please help me get my scanner working in kde???05:14
valorieyahyaa: none of those links I gave you helped?05:26
yahyaano they did not05:27
yahyaaI am new to linux05:27
yahyaaso a lot of it i could not even understand05:27
valorieask here when you can't understand something05:27
valoriewe can help you05:27
valorieI started out as a total beginner05:28
valorieand still somewhat a beginner in some areas05:28
valoriewhat part didn't you understand?05:28
yahyaai have been asking here but no one seems to be able to help05:29
yahyaaor i get vague information05:29
yahyaaall I need is for some one to walk me through what I need to do05:30
valorieyou are asking vague questions05:30
valoriethe link I gave you does that05:30
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:30
valoriehmmm, not the one I wanted05:30
yahyaathe link u gave me does what????05:30
yahyaaask a question????05:31
valoriewalks you through what to do05:31
yahyaano it does not05:31
valorieignore the !questions one, that was a mistake on my part05:31
valorie*what* do you not understand05:31
valorieor what doesn't work?05:31
valorieplease be specific05:31
yahyaai tried what it told me to do and all it did was help me to hook up my printer wirelessly05:32
yahyaawhich i had already done before05:32
yahyaathe printer works just fine05:32
ubottuScanning software: simple-scan (GNOME), Gwenview (KDE), Xsane. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR05:32
valoriethis one?05:32
yahyaai am trying to get the scanner to work05:32
valorieyou can use the bots too, by the way05:33
valorieanyone can05:33
yahyaawhat are the bots i dont even know what that is05:33
dundeeAnyone knows the reason why my plasmoids rearrange themselves on startup?05:34
valoriedid you lock it once you had them as you liked?05:35
yahyaai went to the site all it does it show what has been tested does not show me how to get mine to work05:35
valorieyahyaa: did you see what I did to get that line?05:35
ubottuScanning software: Simple-Scan (GNOME), Xsane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR05:36
valorieubottu is the bot that prints that05:36
ubottuvalorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:36
* valorie pats ubottu on the head05:36
yahyaawhat do u mean did i see what u did to get what line????05:36
valoriedid you see this line? !scanning05:38
valorieand then what the result of that was?05:38
valoriewe have tools we can use for information05:38
dundeevalorie: Yeah I locked the panel.05:39
valoriewe're here to help you, but we need you to calm down, and ask questions that help us help you05:39
valoriedundee: and they still move?05:39
dundeevalorie: Yeah, but its weird because its always the same plasmoids that moves: Quick Access and Task Manager switches around always.05:40
yahyaahelping some one is not giving them a suggestion where the information may be05:40
yahyaaespecially if they don't know much about getting around in linux05:41
valorieyahyaa: I can't come to your house05:41
yahyaadont need u too05:41
valorieplease ask for more explanation of what you don't understand05:41
yahyaaif u know how to do it then just  tell me how to do05:41
valoriethe documentation is written to help you understand05:42
yahyaawell it does not help05:42
valorieyahyaa: in my experience, most things Just Work05:42
valoriewhen they don't, I get some information05:42
valorieand ask for help if I need more05:42
yahyaaok but i did not ask for information05:42
valoriethat's how I've made it this far05:43
yahyaai asked for help to get it to work05:43
valorieI've been using linux for more than 10 years05:43
yahyaaso y cant u tell me how to fix this then05:43
* valorie is bowing out now, sorry I couldn't help05:43
yahyaacan some one tell me how to get my scanner to work in kde05:46
yahyaato hell with this shit05:49
yahyaaim going back to Microsoft05:49
yahyaathanks for nothin05:49
himcesjfyahyaa: Hello05:49
himcesjfDo you mind repeating your question please?05:49
yahyaai have been trying to get my printer to work since i bought it for the last two days05:50
yahyaabut no one is offering anything that works05:50
valoriecan you say what type of printer it is?05:51
yahyaai have a hpofficejet 660005:51
valoriewhat version of kubuntu you are using?05:51
yahyaai have said what it is i dont know how many timesz05:51
valorieand it is on the list of supported printers?05:51
valorienot when I was in the channel.....05:51
yahyaaok so y is it not working05:51
yahyaait prints just fine05:52
valoriecan you see it from your printer setup on your computer?05:52
himcesjfyahyaa: Open terminal (Alt+F2 -> type "konsole") and on prompt type "lsb_release -a" and paste the output here05:52
himcesjfThat command can help us know which distribution you are using05:52
himcesjfHave you tried to go through System Settings option to configure printer?05:53
yahyaaNo LSB modules are available.05:53
yahyaaDistributor ID: Ubuntu05:53
yahyaaDescription:    Ubuntu 12.1005:53
yahyaaRelease:        12.1005:53
yahyaaCodename:       quantal05:53
himcesjfOkay, thanks05:53
himcesjfCan you find and open System Setting from KDE menu ?05:54
yahyaayes its open05:54
himcesjfPrinter > Add Printer05:55
himcesjfHave you tried this before?05:55
himcesjfWhat did you try and what was the problem?05:56
yahyaait shows the printer and says that it is idle05:56
yahyaaover i the left pane under printers05:56
yahyaait says the fax is turned off05:56
yahyaaand it says the same for the printer05:57
yahyaawait it show 3 printer05:57
himcesjfCould you screenshot so that I can understand the problem?05:58
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.05:58
ubottuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu05:58
yahyaathe first one says officejet-6600 paused - 'unplugged or turned off'05:58
himcesjfOkay ...05:58
yahyaathe second one says05:58
yahyaaofficejet-6600-fax-4 pause - 'unplugged or turned off'05:59
yahyaaand the third one says05:59
yahyaaofficejet_6600_e-all-in-one idle05:59
yahyaai can print just fine06:00
yahyaabut when i use simple scan it says it cant find the scanner06:00
himcesjfAh, one moment06:01
himcesjfYou might have checked hardware connections before, could you check it again and try?06:02
himcesjfI've configure printers before and it seemed to have worked fine without much issues.06:03
himcesjfI'm going through above !print links to see if there are any compatibility issues with your hardware06:03
himcesjfhpofficejet 6600. Hold on please06:04
yahyaait is connected wirelessley06:04
himcesjfOh ok06:04
valorieyahyaa: did you get a printer driver for it?06:08
valorieHP has one on their site for linux06:08
valorieor rather, driverlook.com does06:09
valorieI'm wondering if the generic driver worked for printing, but not for the scanner06:09
valorieI see reports on the web with your hp officejet having trouble scanning, in windows06:12
yahyaano I did not06:23
yahyaabut my printer does work its just the scanner thats not working06:23
himcesjfyahyaa: I tired to find solution from hplip project (http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html) but It seems to be down. Also, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne. I don't have much experience with wireless printers. Sorry, I cannot help you any further.06:24
yahyaathanx for your effort06:25
himcesjfMaybe you should try again sometime today06:25
yahyaaas a matter of fact i am just going back to windows06:29
yahyaaway less confusing06:29
smartboyhwyahyaa, oh no:(06:29
yahyaawell i can not get my scanner to work06:30
valorieit seems to be somewhat common with that model of all-in-one06:30
yahyaaif it works in windows y wont it work in linux06:31
yahyaaits not the printer its linux06:31
valorieit works in windows?06:32
yahyaauh yea06:32
valorieI would do my scanning in windows then06:32
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yahyaano im doing everything in windows06:33
Guest27247I have a question about GParted for ubuntu.06:33
yahyaai am tired of having all of these problems in linux06:33
valorieso does my husband06:33
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php06:33
Guest27247There's an icon with a key I don't know how to remove beside a partion I want to resize.06:34
Guest27247How do I remove the key?06:34
smartboyhw!patience | Guest2724706:37
ubottuGuest27247: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/06:37
smartboyhwGuest27247, what icon?06:37
Guest27247It's a little key icon besides the partion I want to resize,06:38
smartboyhwGuest27247, give us a picture please.06:38
Guest27247I'm guessing an administrative lock of some sort.06:38
* smartboyhw doesn't understand.06:38
smartboyhwGuest27247, what software06:38
Guest27247a picture?06:38
smartboyhwGuest27247, screenshot?06:39
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.06:39
valorieyou'll need to upload that to imagebin or similar06:40
smartboyhwGuest27247, how are we supposed to see it with a local file address? Please upload the screenshot to imagebin.06:40
smartboyhwOr imgur.06:40
Guest27247ok I'll be back then06:40
smartboyhwGuest27247, I need to divert you to #ubuntu. This is a GParted problem, and you are clearly using GNOME, not KDE06:42
smartboyhwGuest27247, and you can't resize.06:42
Guest27247Why not though?06:42
himcesjfGuest27247: Partition is in use and mounted06:42
Guest27247I must have like 12gbs then.06:42
Guest27247I know this one has at least 160gb total.06:43
Guest27247I don't even want to use windows anymore.06:43
valorieguest, if you used the livecd I linked to, you could do it06:43
himcesjfWhat are you trying to do? Resize? Are you in LiveCD ?06:43
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php06:43
Guest27247No I'm not,06:44
valorieand by liveCD, I mean you could also do a liveUSB06:44
Guest27247Yeah I have a usb I can use,06:44
Guest27247Could I install an upgraded ubuntu and then resize the partion?06:45
valorieI mean if you have a CD, fine06:45
valoriebut most use USB now06:45
smartboyhwGuest27247, we mean are you botting from hard drive?06:45
smartboyhwvalorie, I don't use a CD. It installs Ubuntu 12.04 LTS like a tortoise...:P06:45
valorieme either anymore06:46
valoriejust USB06:46
Guest27247No I installed ubuntu from windows and must've gave the partion 12gb or something.06:46
smartboyhwGuest27247, FROM windows?06:46
* smartboyhw hates wubi, IIRC06:47
Guest27247Well I do too, now.06:47
smartboyhwDifferent issue then.06:47
Guest27247I'm using a netbook too.06:47
valorienetbook is ok06:47
Guest27247Yeah it works fine,06:48
valoriejust be sure to use 32bit06:48
Guest27247ok thanks06:48
smartboyhwGuest27247, Windows 7 right?06:48
smartboyhwGuest27247, OK. Just a reminder: Wubi will be cancelled starting from 13.04 (until further notice_06:48
smartboyhwGuest27247, too many bugs + undermaintenance + imcompatability with Secure Boot.06:49
Guest27247well I'm installing a newer one now.06:50
smartboyhwGuest27247, newer what?06:50
Guest27247Newer ubuntu version, and hopefully i can replace this one and windows.06:54
lordievaderGood morning08:55
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BluesKajHowdy all11:19
dancappHi BluesKaj12:05
BluesKajdancapp, ddi you install kubuntu-desktop ?12:05
BluesKajor install ubuntu then install kde?12:05
Artakhadancapp, i am here too :)12:06
dancappI installed the KXStudio ISO which is Ubuntu with KDE12:06
dancappOh hey Artakha12:06
dancappSo it's possible that the KXStudio creator deliberately left the 'User Management' bit off of SystemSettings, though I don't know why he would have done that12:07
dancappI'm just running an upgrade so it's possible that'll fix it and I'll have wasted your time ;) Bear with me12:07
Artakhamaybe you could go check the software sources list (/etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*) for strange urls12:08
Artakhaif there aren't any, then i don't think kxstudio could have removed it12:09
BluesKajI'm sure there will be some sources not familiar in kubuntu , this OS is a hybrid , not fgamiliar to me12:09
dancappYeah it has KXStudio specific sources as well as general Ubuntu ones12:10
dancappUpdate's almost done. Turns out there was one to do - I thought it happened as part of the whole OS installation12:11
BluesKajdancapp, technically what you have installed is not kubuntu or ubuntu12:14
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dancappBluesKaj: I guess not.12:20
dancappMy update has finished and I do have a new icon in SYstemSettings but it's not what I need12:20
dancapp It's the KDM Login Manager12:20
dancappI can change basic settings for users, but not privileges12:21
BluesKajdancapp, sorry I have no idea , maybe you can ask in #kxstudio , they do have a chat , altho small in population12:23
dancappBluesKaj - exactly. No-one ever answers there. But can I ask...12:23
dancappCan the 'User Management' package be installed independently?12:23
BluesKajdancapp, sorry , I don't know :(12:24
dancappBluesKaj: Ok, thanks anyway12:24
dancappLooks like I have some researching to do12:24
* BluesKaj nods12:25
dancappBluesKaj - any other channels worth asking in?12:25
BluesKajdancapp, since it's a kde issue , you could ask about the "user management ' issue in #kde as you did before , but I doubt anyone has encountered that due to the hybrid nature of your OS12:29
dancappBluesKaj: Ok thanks. What a ballache12:30
BluesKajdancapp, may i ask why you decided on KXStudio ?12:31
dancappBluesKaj - Great for making music!12:33
dancappThe best one I've tried12:33
BluesKajok , midi stuff etc ?12:33
dancappYeah, it has some unique applications for easy jack connections, midi etc.12:33
dancappAnd because it's based on Ubuntu it's easy for a pleb like me (usually)12:34
BluesKajwhat about ubuntu-studio , have you looked into it ?12:35
dancappYeah, I much prefer KDE and I like the way KXStudio is managed12:36
dancappIt's becoming the most popular audio distro for a good reason I think12:36
BluesKajI'm into audio but just as a user , not a creator/sampler or for recording ..this my HTPC12:39
dancappSo you mean listening to audio not making it?12:39
BluesKajour band records audio in a garage/studio , just not here :)12:40
BluesKajwe're a bunch of older guys who still jam ...we don't fool with samples and stuff like that12:41
dancappOh cool12:42
dancappWell I just demo up some material in my little home studio, using Ardour, some synths, Hydrogen etc12:42
BluesKajso user management is preventing you from doing or not doing what ?12:43
dancappWell it's a long story... but I fragged my old install and had to reinstall. When I tried to move my backed up system files over from my extrernal drive to my new install I hit permissions problems. I've now downloaded KUser and it turns out I didn't have root permission even though I;m the primary/only user12:45
BluesKajdancapp, then that's a legit question for #kde if you ask it using that post12:46
dancappBluesKaj: Yeah? Thanks I'll try it12:47
dancappThough I don't understand why that makes my problem any more legitimate.12:49
BluesKajdancapp, becuse it's related to kde permissions etc12:54
dancappOk thanks12:58
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spawn57do any of you use owncloud yet?15:58
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pichi all17:14
cornfeedhobois the raring kubuntu release stable? it doesnt use wayland, does it?17:17
CrellHi all.  I'm running Kubuntu 12.10.  In Default Applications / Web Browser, I have http/https associated to firefox.17:18
CrellSome programs, however, are still opening pages in Chrome.  Even though those are set to use the system default browser.17:19
CrellThunderbird is the chief offender here...17:19
CrellAny idea how to change that?17:19
cornfeedhobosome programs have their own setting for which to open17:20
BluesKajCrell, system settings>default applications17:20
CrellThat's where I am.17:21
Crell@ BluesKaj17:21
Crellcornfeedhobo: How would I check that?  I had TBird set to "system default" before, but now (several automated updates later) I can't seem to find where to set even that...17:22
cornfeedhoboCrell: no clue. i hate thunderbird. i use kmail17:23
CrellI've tried Kmail at various times.  It was always too buggy with IMAP for me to stick with it. :(17:23
Crell(Plus it's nice to use the same client at work and at home.)17:23
BluesKajcornfeedhobo, thunderbird works just fine on kubuntu '17:23
cornfeedhoboBluesKaj: i am sure it does. just bulky17:23
cornfeedhobodoes any one know about the state of raring?17:24
BluesKajcornfeedhobo,  no need for akonadi data base or nepomuk17:24
BluesKajCrell, a hint open system settings as root in the run command (alt+f2)and set the default applications there . kdesudo systemsettings17:27
CrellWell huh.  There it has a default browser of rekonq!17:27
BluesKajcornfeedhobo,  13.04 seems fine atm17:28
cornfeedhobois there an esay upgrade path? they didnt switch to wayland already, right?17:28
CrellBluesKaj: No change after I set that to firefox.17:29
BluesKajCrell, it probly needas a relogin17:30
CrellLovely.  I'll try that later. :-)17:30
* Crell is in the middle of a bunch of things.17:31
BluesKajcornfeedhobo, are you on 12.10 and want to upgrade to 13.04? , if so , run,  sudo apt-getupdate;sudo apt-get upgrade , then , sudo do-release-upgrade -d17:34
BluesKajoops, correction ,  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade , then , sudo do-release-upgrade -d17:35
cornfeedhoboBluesKaj: cool. i was mostly trying to verify that the package changes arent enough that my system will freak out17:35
cornfeedhoboi am reading the release notice now17:36
cornfeedhobodoesnt seem to have any listed known issues17:36
BluesKajthat's whyn the update/upgrade is run first17:36
CrellIs 13.04 out yet?17:36
* Crell is not upgrading for a while anyway.17:36
BluesKajCrell, not officially til the 25th or so , it's in beta atm17:37
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bbblehi, I want to connect to my kubuntu computer from win8 with a inc17:42
bbbleI mean VNC client17:42
bbblebut - what is a good VNC client for win8?17:43
bbbleare there open source alternatives that work fine?17:45
bazhangbbble, ask in ##windows17:45
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piersharkCiao a tutti18:56
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stacky13.04 when :(20:57
Artakhastacky, 25th apparently21:02
BluesKajstacky:  Apr 25th21:02
stackyArtakha:  thank you21:04
stackyBluesKaj: thank you21:04
stackyArtakha: actually my memory card reader is not working in 12.04..21:04
stackyand i m directly planning to upgrade to 13.04.21:05
Artakhai don't think that's a great idea, from what i know you should perform upgrades one release at a time21:05
Artakhaat least, that's how it is on debian and ubuntu is directly derived from that21:05
lordievaderArtakha: A clean install can still be done ;)21:17
Artakhawell yeah21:17
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goodtimelo lordievader21:37
goodtimeping lordievader21:37
Guest53655Good evening.  Is there a good way to install Kubuntu 13.04 in an encrypted LVM, along side Windows 7?22:25
Artakhayou can dual boot it but i don't know anything about encrypted lvms22:28
Guest53655I know quite a bit about encrypted LVMs and can't seem to make it work.  It's very frustrating.22:30
Guest53655I'm good with sysadmin stuff.  I tried using an existing encrypted LVM, but I can't get the initramfs to come out.22:34
Guest53655I can provide many more details, if someone thinks they can help me.22:34
DarthFrogGuest74304:  I'm by no means sure but I don't think you can boot from an encrypted filesystem.22:50
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