| valorie | have you seen this? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html?m=1 | 00:08 |
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| valorie | quem: ^^^ | 00:08 |
| quem | valorie: no, thank you | 00:23 |
| quem | valorie: yeah, that fixed it, sorta... thank you again. | 00:26 |
| bent | hello! if I install Ubuntu 13.04 beta now and then do dist-upgrade after release, will I have (for all practical purposes) the same system? | 01:12 |
| wilee-nilee | bent, all dist-upgrade does is install in the release your in. A regular update will have you equal to the release. | 01:41 |
| valorie | bent, yes, that | 01:44 |
| valorie | s what I generally do | 01:44 |
| valorie | if I've tested the beta, anyway | 01:44 |
| markmcb | anyone having intermittent network outages (or possibly just ssh outages … i'm headless) with 13.04? it keeps dying on me anytime i begin to ramp up net traffic | 04:27 |
| markmcb | do digging a little deeper, I see this in auth.log: sshd[1247]: Received signal 15; terminating | 04:46 |
| markmcb | what would be sending sshd signal 15? | 04:46 |
| markmcb | it immediately restarts | 04:47 |
| markmcb | but it's super annoying as it results in a short outage | 04:47 |
| kanliot | how do i report a bug against the driver for usb audio, it's cutting out after an hour or 2 | 06:58 |
| kanliot | ? | 06:58 |
| murlidhar | hi all .i am getting errors when i do sudo apt-get update | 07:23 |
| murlidhar | what should i do ? | 07:23 |
| murlidhar | anyone? | 07:25 |
| kanliot | ask in #ubuntu | 07:26 |
| kanliot | also | 07:26 |
| kanliot | make a note of the exact error | 07:27 |
| murlidhar | i am on raring ringtail. | 07:27 |
| valorie | murlidhar: the exact error message is needed | 07:31 |
| valorie | if it's long, please pastebin it | 07:32 |
| valorie | !pastebin | 07:32 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 07:32 |
| murlidhar | seems to be ppa problem. purging the ppa to see if it helps valorie | 07:32 |
| murlidhar | voila. | 07:35 |
| murlidhar | it now works :$ | 07:35 |
| geomyidae | Hey, does the installer still fail magnificently with a btrfs raid setup? | 07:41 |
| exalt | hello yesterday i accidently removed most of /dev/*, when i rebooted my system gave an error. a few times later it worked again like nothing happend how is this possible ? | 08:02 |
| valorie | exalt: reading over http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/dev-fs.html -- it would seem that your system recreated those files | 08:05 |
| valorie | when you look now, do you see the files? | 08:05 |
| valorie | it seems rather risky to remove part of your system files like that | 08:05 |
| exalt | valorie: yea it was a mistake when i tried to create a livecd from my harddisk loil | 08:10 |
| exalt | lol* | 08:10 |
| valorie | oops | 08:11 |
| valorie | I guess all's well that ends well | 08:11 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:55 |
| Ian_Corne | Lol, i seem to have lost my sources.list | 10:36 |
| Ian_Corne | anyone else? | 10:36 |
| Voro2 | still have it here | 10:49 |
| Voro2 | say, did they change gnome-session-properties somehow? It only shows a few items now, doesn't seem nearly complete | 10:49 |
| Ian_Corne | for me that gives startup programs | 10:54 |
| Ian_Corne | and that's it | 10:54 |
| Voro2 | Ian_Corne, well at some point in the past I could for example stop file managers from other desktop environments from starting that way, but they're now no longer listed there | 10:58 |
| Voro2 | its title also says 'extra startup programs', as if there's another list | 10:58 |
| Ian_Corne | well, I guess there's the default list? | 11:00 |
| Ian_Corne | and for me it says: "Startup Application Preferences" | 11:00 |
| Ian_Corne | not extra | 11:00 |
| Ian_Corne | Ubuntu one is not on the list, but it does startup when I log in | 11:00 |
| Voro2 | might be the dutch translation but that'd be weird | 11:00 |
| Voro2 | running 13.04? | 11:01 |
| Ian_Corne | yeah | 11:01 |
| Voro2 | ok maybe my adding/purging gnome-ppas screwed up stuff, I'll keep looking :p | 11:02 |
| Ian_Corne | :) | 11:03 |
| Voro2 | thanks for thinking along | 11:05 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:19 |
| BluesKaj | hey penguin42 | 11:32 |
| penguin42 | Hey BK, how goes? | 11:34 |
| BluesKaj | ok here , and you ? | 11:35 |
| penguin42 | good | 11:36 |
| Dark_light | I'm trying out 13.04 with yesterday's build but I'm econuntering a few hiccups | 11:39 |
| Dark_light | 1- on the livecd if I try to use apt-get to install any software it's unable to locate the packages | 11:40 |
| Dark_light | 2- the installer hangs pretty much at the beginning | 11:40 |
| Dark_light | anyone? | 11:44 |
| lordievader | Dark_light: You are using Ubuntu? I think you have not forgotten to run apt-get update? | 11:45 |
| Dark_light | lordievader: I've ran it and it runs fine | 11:46 |
| Dark_light | however that's the lesser of the two problems if it's limited to the live session , the biggest one is not being able to install | 11:46 |
| lordievader | Dark_light: True, I agree, however I have no idea on how to debug your second problem... | 11:47 |
| lordievader | Dark_light: Perhaps they can tell you in #ubuntu-devel. | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light, can you open any webpages on the live cd using a browser? | 11:49 |
| Dark_light | yep | 11:49 |
| Dark_light | I'm on the live cd right now on irssi | 11:49 |
| Dark_light | so the connection is not the issue | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | odd , then apt-get should work | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | did you try the package manager , Dark_light? | 11:51 |
| lordievader | Dark_light: Does apt-cache work? For example apt-cache search apache? | 11:51 |
| Dark_light | I've tried enabling universe and now apt-get seems to be working ok although I didn't know stuffs like htop were in universe | 11:53 |
| lordievader | !info htop | 11:53 |
| ubottu | htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1 (raring), package size 66 kB, installed size 185 kB | 11:53 |
| Dark_light | well then that was my fault | 11:54 |
| Dark_light | but still the installer just hangs | 11:54 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light, I had the same problem , it's a bug on 64 bit amd systems ... I installed 12.10 then did a , do-release-upgrade .d , from there to insatll 13.04 , there was no other way for my hardware to be recognized by the the installer /ubiquity | 11:59 |
| Dark_light | it seems to be a locale issue from /var/log/installer/debug | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | not all 64bit amd , tho | 12:00 |
| Dark_light | BluesKaj: or a permission issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/5707491/ | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light, then your issue is different then mine , the live cd won't even boot into the desktop here. | 12:13 |
| Dark_light | BluesKaj: oh it didn't here either if I choose the default boot option | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | the no acpi or any of the others didn't work either | 12:15 |
| Dark_light | I just choose to boot on of the other options can't remember which one | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | unfortunately the devs don't seem to be able to fix the problem or it's so rare that they aren't taking it seriously because it's regarded as an anomaly, Dark_light , perhaps file a bug on your issue.? | 12:20 |
| mnk | hi all - anyone know how I can get the indicator thingy for dropbox on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit? I have installed and reinstalled dropbox but I just can't get the thing working. Dropbox itself is syncing etc - but just no indicator | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | mnk, is dropboxd script in system settings/startup | 13:13 |
| mnk | BluesKaj, how can I find that out? | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | open system settings > startup , look for a daemon called dropboxd , not sure exactly how it looks in unity/gnome , mnk | 13:31 |
| mnk | yes it is in start up | 13:32 |
| mnk | dropxbox is actually syncing fine | 13:32 |
| mnk | i just can't see it in the notification thingy | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | mnk, ok ,well then it's working . I'm not sure how to get the icon to show in the system tray on ubuntu/unity panel. I'm a kde user , it just shows up. | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | unless you need a reboot | 13:35 |
| mnk | rebooted already a lot of times | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | and you ran the dropbox GUI installer | 13:47 |
| mnk | yep | 13:47 |
| mnk | but where it says restart nautilus i did that but nautilus never restarted | 13:47 |
| mnk | so I had to just open File Manager (nautilus) from the unity launcher and it just restarted fine | 13:47 |
| mnk | but dropbox didn't do anything after that | 13:47 |
| mnk | but I know the files are syncing fine | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | it didn't take you thru the steps to join dropbox and ask about the account etc ? | 13:48 |
| mnk | nope | 13:49 |
| mnk | i already have the db settings though probably cos I have been using db for a while | 13:49 |
| mnk | BluesKaj, I tried installing and uninstalling a number of times - same problem | 13:53 |
| BluesKaj | mnk, is .dropbox-dist in your /home dir ? | 13:58 |
| mnk | yep | 13:59 |
| mnk | $ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd | 14:00 |
| mnk | Another instance of Dropbox (10853) is running! | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | mnk, try ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd , in a terminal to see if the gui will start or the icon shows up | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:01 |
| mnk | ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd | 14:01 |
| mnk | Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" | 14:01 |
| lordievader | Dropboxd, will not start a gui.. its the daemon. | 14:01 |
| mnk | that's after killing the one that was running | 14:01 |
| lordievader | You need the dropbox executable. | 14:02 |
| mnk | $ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropbox | 14:03 |
| mnk | Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" | 14:03 |
| mnk | and it didn't open up the indicator thingy either | 14:03 |
| mnk | btw thanks for your help peeps! really appreciate it | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | odd the gui will usually start if the daemon fails ' | 14:04 |
| mnk | I think the daemon is actually running - but it's just the indicator that isn't showing up | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | ]yes , the icon fails to load in the panel due to that gtk error | 14:05 |
| mnk | hmm interesting | 14:05 |
| lordievader | mnk: I think you should investigate on how to fix that gtk error. | 14:05 |
| mnk | ok | 14:06 |
| mnk | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/overlay-scrollbar/+bug/1134202 | 14:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1134202 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "Removing overlay-scrollbar causes lots of noise" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | mnk, are you using any fancy themes ? | 14:06 |
| mnk | naa default one | 14:06 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 14:06 |
| mnk | should I install overlay-scrollbar? | 14:07 |
| BluesKaj | dunno :) ...probly worth a try | 14:07 |
| mnk | overlay-scrollbar is already the newest version. | 14:08 |
| mnk | lol | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | updated or upgraded lately? | 14:10 |
| mnk | new install | 14:10 |
| BluesKaj | still | 14:10 |
| mnk | 13.04 | 14:11 |
| mnk | 64 bit | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | always update and upgrade a new install | 14:11 |
| mattwj2002 | when is 13.04 being released? | 14:11 |
| mnk | yeh i've done all the updates and upgrades | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | doesn't mean up to date , mnk | 14:11 |
| mattwj2002 | final I mean | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | 10days to 2 weeks mattwj2002 | 14:12 |
| mnk | mattwj2002, 25th April I think | 14:12 |
| mattwj2002 | sweet | 14:12 |
| mnk | anyone here running dropbox on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit? | 14:14 |
| kvarley | I can't install r8168-dkms on 13.04 here is the error messages & log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5707761/ Any ideas? | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | Installation of the r8168-dkms package will disable the in-kernel r8169 | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | module. To re-enable r8169, the r8168-dkms package must be purged | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | kvarley, no ethernet connection with your existing nic ? | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | driver | 14:19 |
| mnk | any other ideas about dropbox app indicator? | 15:17 |
| Cheri703 | I just got an email from someone and it says "via canonical.com" asking about 13.04 beta2. I have NO idea why this email would come to me, nor how to solve their problem. | 15:30 |
| thiebaude | I got a question, when playing a movie vlc opens then it closes, any ideas why? on ubuntu 13.04 | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | thiebaude, are you choosing vlc to open the video? | 15:33 |
| thiebaude | yes | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | Cheri703, did you register with ubnuntu or canonical recently ? | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | er ubuntu | 15:33 |
| Cheri703 | nope, been an ubuntu member for quite some time, but no idea why what looks like a general support email would come to me | 15:34 |
| IdleOne | hmm | 15:34 |
| penguin42 | Cheri703: via a forum? | 15:34 |
| Cheri703 | I wouldn't think so? | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | I'd have thought it'd indicate forum? | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | and I have nothing to do with 13.04 | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | I'm using xubuntu 12.10 right now | 15:35 |
| BluesKaj | thiebaude, only a particular video or all of them ? | 15:35 |
| penguin42 | difficult to know without seeing the headers/footers - or you could just ask them where you got the address | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | ohhhhh, weird | 15:35 |
| Cheri703 | when I went to forward it, I saw the bit that had been hidden. "this message was sent by launchpad by <person> using the "contact this team's admins" link on the Ubuntu-Women Team page" -_- what the heck? | 15:36 |
| thiebaude | all the netflix dvd's i have tried, use to not have this problem, before it would play them with no problem at all | 15:36 |
| IdleOne | Cheri703: I would say ignore it. probably just some email bot spam thingy | 15:36 |
| Cheri703 | why the heck would someone email the admin of u-w about a 13.04 question? | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | maybe it's mistake and it was sent out to all ubuntu members instaed of a certain group | 15:37 |
| penguin42 | Cheri703: Don't assume that people do sane things | 15:37 |
| IdleOne | sometimes people go on launchpad and click the email team button looking for support | 15:37 |
| IdleOne | you can either ignore it, or point them to this channel or the forums/askubuntu.com | 15:38 |
| * Cheri703 forwarded it to IdleOne so he can deal with it ;) | 15:38 | |
| smartboyhw | :O | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | thiebaude, install ubuntu-restricted-extras | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | IdleOne, the Ask Ubuntu guys won't support a pre-release (a.k.a. 13.04) | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | Cheri703, probably divert to the Forums then. | 15:39 |
| thiebaude | ok BluesKaj i'll do that, thanks | 15:39 |
| IdleOne | Cheri703: that person was in here yesterday asking the same question. I guess they got impatient and went around emailing everybody they could. | 15:40 |
| Cheri703 | ah, lovely | 15:40 |
| * IdleOne deletes the email because they already know about IRC | 15:40 | |
| smartboyhw | Cheri703, people DO get impatient. | 15:40 |
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| hutch | Hi I have a problem with rtl 8723 wifi driver. (Signal keeps dropping). Any way to boost it. It wasn't production ready in 12.10 but is included in 13.04 | 15:50 |
| hutch | It doesn't cut out so no major issue just want to boost it if poss | 15:55 |
| wilee-nilee | hutch, Never seen a booster. | 15:55 |
| wilee-nilee | hutch, If you just watching the icon it is not really accurate, if you are not loosing a signal fahget about it. | 15:56 |
| hutch | ok np I'll wait for upgrades. I used it in Mint 14 as well before and it was dropping to 30% | 15:58 |
| hutch | In 12.10 Ubuntu I was getting system errors with it but they've stopped in 13.04 :) | 16:00 |
| MonkeyDust | dang! I miss F3 dual view in nautilus | 16:06 |
| MonkeyDust | whyever has it been left out | 16:11 |
| kvarley | BluesKaj: Sorry for the massive delay. Yeah I do have a net connection with the currently module but it hangs at times and is slower than expected. | 16:48 |
| packetfrog | Has anyone used the daily raring server build? | 16:48 |
| packetfrog | I keep getting unmet dependencies when installer tries to install kernel | 16:50 |
| Dark_light | How usable is 13.04 at this stage? | 18:02 |
| bazhang | roughly two weeks from release | 18:03 |
| bekks | Dark_light: As a beta, it is not usable for production yet. | 18:03 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light, usable as a home user here | 18:04 |
| Dark_light | well I can deal with the occasional bug but I'd need something that is stable enough not to crash xorg or become unbootable | 18:05 |
| Dark_light | afterall at two weeks away from release I hope most of the critical bugs have been sorted out | 18:06 |
| Dark_light | or am I wrong? | 18:07 |
| BluesKaj | no gurantees at this stage , if you have a back up OS then by all means try it | 18:07 |
| bazhang | hard to say | 18:07 |
| Dark_light | one more question, I haven't used *buntu distro in a while, If I install a beta and just keep it up to date I should end up with the final release without hiccups right? | 18:08 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 18:08 |
| bazhang | yep | 18:08 |
| bazhang | !final | Dark_light | 18:08 |
| ubottu | Dark_light: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Raring and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. | 18:08 |
| Dark_light | ok thank you | 18:11 |
| bazhang | np | 18:11 |
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| Dark_light | How'd you install 13.04 the installer keeps hanging on me | 20:29 |
| FernandoMiguel | Dark_light: tried another build? | 20:29 |
| wilee-nilee | Dark_light, You checked the disc integrity, and or the md5sum | 20:30 |
| Dark_light | wilee-nilee: it's a known issue I don't have the link to the bug report at hand but it's easy to find googling | 20:30 |
| Dark_light | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701 | 20:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed] | 20:32 |
| Dark_light | I managed to get past that | 20:38 |
| Dark_light | just a question to stay current on a beta should I run apt-get dist-upgrade too or just update? | 20:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | !upgrade | 20:39 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 20:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | or is it !final ? | 20:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | !final | 20:40 |
| ubottu | If you install a development version of Ubuntu Raring and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. | 20:40 |
| wilee-nilee | Dark_light, The only thing I would say is that you are working on assumptions to some extent you may have a bad download. dist-upgarde | 20:40 |
| Dark_light | so dist-upgrade only for the transistion to the official release? | 20:40 |
| Dark_light | wilee-nilee: well the bug report is there and apparently I'm not the only one I just followed a dirty fix posted there | 20:41 |
| BluesKaj | dist-upgrade , upgrades the installed packages , not the OS | 20:41 |
| wilee-nilee | Dark_light, You are still assuming in all that. ;) | 20:42 |
| Dark_light | wilee-nilee: well yeah I haven't made an extensive test to sort out all the probable causes but that one seems to be the most probable one I think, anyway I'm installing :-) | 20:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | alias distupgrade='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' | 20:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | I just run that everytime I login | 20:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | been doing that for half a decade | 20:43 |
| Dark_light | I've never used a *buntu or debian distro long enough to have the chance of using it hence the confusion :P | 20:44 |
| Dark_light | I mean using dist-upgrade | 20:44 |
| Dark_light | so basically dist-upgrade is used when jumping between versions even from like a beta to a rc? | 20:46 |
| Dark_light | sorry if the questions seems stupid as I said I have very small experience with apt-get | 20:46 |
| maxb | dist-upgrade should really have been named full-upgrade | 20:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | I almost always have packages that require dist- | 20:47 |
| maxb | Basically it means "upgrade, even upgrade stuff if you have to add and remove other packages to satisfy dependencies" | 20:47 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light: on the same OS version, it upgrades the packages within it | 20:47 |
| Dark_light | ok but aren't versions "fixed" once it's stable? | 20:48 |
| Dark_light | or in a freeze | 20:48 |
| BluesKaj | Dark_light: there are always upgrades | 20:48 |
| Dark_light | ok then I'll run both, thanks for the help ;-) | 20:49 |
| Dark_light | btw just finished installing too | 20:49 |
| Dark_light | rebooting brb | 20:49 |
| BluesKaj | you can keep a particular setup like a LTS | 20:49 |
| wilee-nilee | To update upgrade I run. sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-fast update ; sudo apt-fast dist-upgrade ; dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages this last part save the installed list | 20:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | fast? | 20:50 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, apt-fast calls multiple repos at once it is faster and loads the installs at the same time | 20:51 |
| wilee-nilee | you just choose yes or no for the install | 20:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | AH | 20:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | I miss the MIRROR feature :( | 20:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's dead | 20:51 |
| wilee-nilee | I have the daily development release at the very end as well. click it and forget it, lol | 20:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | # deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring main restricted universe multiverse | 20:54 |
| FernandoMiguel | I mean this wilee-nilee | 20:54 |
| FernandoMiguel | it would pick the best mirror for you | 20:54 |
| e\ectro | hey has anyone used gptsync before? I'm having an issue getting it to see the partition i have flagged as boot. | 20:54 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, I use the main, I'm in the U.S. I have found some faster, however apt-fast would make that even faster. | 20:55 |
| FernandoMiguel | then you get mirrors outdated and you are screwed | 20:56 |
| FernandoMiguel | I used to pull from 3 | 20:56 |
| FernandoMiguel | now I just use a close fast one that rsyncs every hour | 20:56 |
| BluesKaj | apt-fast is ok , just don't use any ppas | 20:56 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, never had a problem. | 20:56 |
| wilee-nilee | in 5 years | 20:56 |
| FernandoMiguel | ok | 20:57 |
| FernandoMiguel | never hear of it | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | mucked up my sources list , wilee-nilee | 20:57 |
| wilee-nilee | BluesKaj, How so you can get a new list easily. | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | wilee-nilee: yeah , but sometimes one forgets about ppas and I didn't know that the ppas would break the sources access | 20:58 |
| FernandoMiguel | BluesKaj: LOLOL backups backups backups | 20:59 |
| BluesKaj | anyway my sources here in Canada are pretty quick | 20:59 |
| wilee-nilee | I clone all my installs and rsync home, and keep most everything on externals except the OS's | 21:00 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , I do that with important files | 21:01 |
| wilee-nilee | I hate asking for help, so I'm setup to just learn from others mistakes. ;) | 21:02 |
| wilee-nilee | and mu own I figure out | 21:03 |
| wilee-nilee | my* | 21:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | I would love to know who messed up grub2 iso boot | 21:10 |
| FernandoMiguel | my 3yo DOCs are no long valid | 21:10 |
| wilee-nilee | when it hit the actual 2 build I saw users loosing their boot, it was funny. | 21:11 |
| wilee-nilee | happened once to me | 21:11 |
| wilee-nilee | supergrub to the rescue easy boot in a reload, rather then booting a live cd or manually booting. | 21:12 |
| FernandoMiguel | I used to have a daily iso and the latest stable iso plus chromiumOS | 21:15 |
| FernandoMiguel | and now it doesn't work :\ | 21:15 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, You have them in a non os partition? | 21:18 |
| FernandoMiguel | on /boot | 21:18 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, I have not booted them this way, however the wiki suggests a partition just for ISO's. | 21:18 |
| FernandoMiguel | link? | 21:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | like I said, something changed | 21:19 |
| wilee-nilee | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#ISO_File_Location | 21:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | I used to be able to mount-loop them from any location | 21:19 |
| wilee-nilee | that info has been there for awhile, but they did update the page in march. | 21:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | sudo apt-get install grml-rescueboot | 21:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | well, let's test that. thanks wilee-nilee | 21:22 |
| packetfrog | I keep getting unmet dependencies when installer gets to installing the kernel anyone have any ideas? | 21:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | wilee-nilee: I wrote the 1st failsafe wiki for booting grub2 from iso even before the official packaged mentioned it | 21:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: it was fine here | 21:23 |
| packetfrog | ;/ | 21:23 |
| FernandoMiguel | Found Grml ISO image: /boot/grml/raring-desktop-amd64.iso | 21:24 |
| FernandoMiguel | done | 21:24 |
| wilee-nilee | ah | 21:24 |
| wilee-nilee | darn grub develops, lol | 21:24 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, your are not a former UF mod are you? | 21:25 |
| FernandoMiguel | noo, not the international ones, no. just a loco ones | 21:25 |
| FernandoMiguel | from what I read, it was the UEFI changes that broke it | 21:25 |
| FernandoMiguel | buuu | 21:25 |
| packetfrog | Why oh why does raring hate me so | 21:26 |
| FernandoMiguel | I remember having to compile grub2 from source to get UEFI booting on our DELLS | 21:26 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: it doesn't hate you, it's just picky with whom are his friends | 21:26 |
| packetfrog | well spit on him | 21:26 |
| wilee-nilee | Ah, I was wondering if you were drs305 they had all the good grub stuff going on for awhile | 21:27 |
| packetfrog | Why would'nt the installer download something if needed it? | 21:28 |
| packetfrog | im confused | 21:28 |
| packetfrog | +it | 21:28 |
| FernandoMiguel | wilee-nilee: FernandoMiguel for a while now, and BUGabundo for over a decade before | 21:28 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: known bug | 21:28 |
| FernandoMiguel | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701 | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed] | 21:29 |
| packetfrog | :< | 21:29 |
| packetfrog | poor little raring has a bug! | 21:29 |
| packetfrog | waste of a cdr | 21:29 |
| FernandoMiguel | ahaaha | 21:30 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: protip netbootme | 21:30 |
| FernandoMiguel | that's who I install/test dailies | 21:30 |
| FernandoMiguel | or with grub booting isos | 21:30 |
| packetfrog | ? | 21:31 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: ?? | 21:31 |
| packetfrog | FernandoMiguel, That is awesome | 21:33 |
| bjsnider | bugabundo: a decade or borked software, and many, many bug reports | 21:35 |
| bjsnider | but few, few fixes | 21:35 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: and many many hours spent in here acting like a bot | 21:36 |
| packetfrog | FernandoMiguel, netboot.me is almost as awesome as rice and rice is really awesome | 21:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: it's that attitude that led to the decline of me filing bugs | 21:36 |
| FernandoMiguel | :p | 21:37 |
| FernandoMiguel | I still have on package in the archive with my patch :p | 21:37 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's better than nothing | 21:37 |
| bjsnider | oh, you thought the purpose of reporting bugs was that they get fixed... | 21:40 |
| packetfrog | Are you guys friends? | 21:40 |
| packetfrog | bah figures. netboot.me loads up goes black and hangs | 21:42 |
| packetfrog | yay | 21:42 |
| packetfrog | another cdr for the trash | 21:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | ahaha | 21:42 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: did you make your own package yet? | 21:43 |
| FernandoMiguel | I have it on a 4yo dvd :p | 21:43 |
| packetfrog | YAY it did something this time | 21:43 |
| packetfrog | third time was a cahr, | 21:43 |
| packetfrog | charm | 21:43 |
| packetfrog | COOOKIES! | 21:43 |
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| packetfrog | my own package no | 21:45 |
| packetfrog | i downloaded the cd and burned it like an idiot | 21:45 |
| packetfrog | apparently it is NOT updated at all | 21:46 |
| packetfrog | super lame | 21:47 |
| wilee-nilee | packetfrog, use zysnc on the dailies | 21:49 |
| * packetfrog looks at wilee-nilee blankly | 21:49 | |
| wilee-nilee | then you will know, zync reads the iso\ and adds updates if needed | 21:50 |
| wilee-nilee | zsync | 21:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | sudo ionice -c3 zsync -i /boot/raring-desktop-amd64.iso -o /T/raring-desktop-amd64.iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync | 21:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | here's another protip for you guys | 21:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | packetfrog: that's the beauty of it | 21:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | you make your own receipt and give the ID on boot | 21:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | no more need to change the CD | 21:52 |
| packetfrog | While I am sure that all makes sense to you but it does not to me. | 21:52 |
| packetfrog | :) | 21:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | RTMFM? | 21:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | :) | 21:52 |
| wilee-nilee | lol | 21:52 |
| packetfrog | Fuck your self? | 21:52 |
| packetfrog | Rude pricks | 21:52 |
| FernandoMiguel | let's avoid faul language | 21:53 |
| packetfrog | Lets avoid being a prick. | 21:53 |
| FernandoMiguel | for real, just create an account | 21:53 |
| FernandoMiguel | create a receipe | 21:53 |
| packetfrog | I am not asking for an explanation | 21:53 |
| FernandoMiguel | and boot from it | 21:53 |
| wilee-nilee | packetfrog, Don't take things personally I was loling at FernandoMiguel and now you are in ignore. | 21:53 |
| packetfrog | Reading the manual is very helpful, when I know wfm I am looking to read. Was my point. | 21:56 |
| packetfrog | I do not know if you are talking about netbootme | 21:56 |
| packetfrog | or my messed up ubuntu iso | 21:56 |
| packetfrog | or santa | 21:56 |
| packetfrog | thanks anyway. I wont be coming here again | 21:56 |
| FernandoMiguel | wilee-nilee: I used to have a very long and complex setup to get, md5, and boot images, 32/64, flavours, cd/dvds | 21:58 |
| FernandoMiguel | Read /boot/grml/raring-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 37.9% complete. | 21:59 |
| FernandoMiguel | that's just sad :( | 21:59 |
| wilee-nilee | yeah | 22:00 |
| FernandoMiguel | I need a bigger SSD.... not enough space in /boot/grml to put a nightly of chromiumOS | 22:01 |
| FernandoMiguel | I should write a wiki page on my swap over LAN setup LOL | 22:01 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, I bought a 256 gigger run nicely | 22:01 |
| wilee-nilee | runs* | 22:01 |
| FernandoMiguel | waiting to get a new job to upgrade my NAS and the SSD should come afterwards | 22:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | need ~1k€ for the NAS and drives alone | 22:02 |
| wilee-nilee | financila aid here, | 22:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | ? | 22:02 |
| wilee-nilee | FernandoMiguel, financial aid for grad school. | 22:02 |
| FernandoMiguel | AH | 22:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | brb | 22:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | rebooting to test grub with the new changes | 22:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | :D | 22:03 |
| FernandoMiguel | if I don't come back, either I screwed it or pidgin is crashing again | 22:04 |
| FernandoMiguel | well that worked. thank you wilee-nilee for the heads up | 22:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | now to fix chromium | 22:14 |
| wilee-nilee | cool | 22:15 |
| MikeRL | I cannot believe what the computer just did. I ran e4defrag -v / thinking nothing significant would be found, but then it said 9% fragmentation. The fragmentation did not go down after a defrag. Call it a nervous habit from Windows, but I'm glad I checked. Is this some sort of bug? But then the fragmentation rating is a 3. What's going on?!? This is funny. I've never seen this on any Linux install of mine before. | 22:23 |
| maxb | I've never bothered to assess my ext3/ext4 fragmentation | 22:27 |
| MikeRL | I don't get it either. It's probably a bug. What could have caused it. I've never seen it before. And this is not a lie. | 22:27 |
| MikeRL | What could cause this anomaly? | 22:29 |
| maxb | Why would you care? | 22:30 |
| jtaylor | is your disk almost full? | 22:30 |
| MikeRL | Is 9% bad enough to cause slowness? No it's not almost full. | 22:30 |
| MikeRL | Maybe it's just one large file that cannot be defragmented. | 22:30 |
| MikeRL | Yeah I've used Linux for years (since Ubuntu 9.04) but I just don't understand this. Is there anything that could produce a high fragmentation percentage with a low fragmentation score? | 22:33 |
| MikeRL | I don't care if it's one large rarely used file, but if it's a bunch of files I might have a problem. | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | what was the full output of your e4defrag run? | 22:43 |
| MikeRL | Hold on for a sec, I'll copy and paste it to dropbox. Give me 30 sec. | 22:43 |
| MikeRL | Oops. | 22:43 |
| jtaylor | pastebinit is probably simpler | 22:43 |
| MikeRL | OK. | 22:43 |
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