[00:08] have you seen this? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-skype-not-working-in-ubuntu-1304.html?m=1 [00:08] quem: ^^^ [00:23] valorie: no, thank you [00:26] valorie: yeah, that fixed it, sorta... thank you again. [01:12] hello! if I install Ubuntu 13.04 beta now and then do dist-upgrade after release, will I have (for all practical purposes) the same system? [01:41] bent, all dist-upgrade does is install in the release your in. A regular update will have you equal to the release. [01:44] bent, yes, that [01:44] s what I generally do [01:44] if I've tested the beta, anyway [04:27] anyone having intermittent network outages (or possibly just ssh outages … i'm headless) with 13.04? it keeps dying on me anytime i begin to ramp up net traffic [04:46] do digging a little deeper, I see this in auth.log: sshd[1247]: Received signal 15; terminating [04:46] what would be sending sshd signal 15? [04:47] it immediately restarts [04:47] but it's super annoying as it results in a short outage [06:58] how do i report a bug against the driver for usb audio, it's cutting out after an hour or 2 [06:58] ? [07:23] hi all .i am getting errors when i do sudo apt-get update [07:23] what should i do ? [07:25] anyone? [07:26] ask in #ubuntu [07:26] also [07:27] make a note of the exact error [07:27] i am on raring ringtail. [07:31] murlidhar: the exact error message is needed [07:32] if it's long, please pastebin it [07:32] !pastebin [07:32] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:32] seems to be ppa problem. purging the ppa to see if it helps valorie [07:35] voila. [07:35] it now works :$ [07:41] Hey, does the installer still fail magnificently with a btrfs raid setup? [08:02] hello yesterday i accidently removed most of /dev/*, when i rebooted my system gave an error. a few times later it worked again like nothing happend how is this possible ? [08:05] exalt: reading over http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/dev-fs.html -- it would seem that your system recreated those files [08:05] when you look now, do you see the files? [08:05] it seems rather risky to remove part of your system files like that [08:10] valorie: yea it was a mistake when i tried to create a livecd from my harddisk loil [08:10] lol* [08:11] oops [08:11] I guess all's well that ends well [08:55] Good morning [10:36] Lol, i seem to have lost my sources.list [10:36] anyone else? [10:49] still have it here [10:49] say, did they change gnome-session-properties somehow? It only shows a few items now, doesn't seem nearly complete [10:54] for me that gives startup programs [10:54] and that's it [10:58] Ian_Corne, well at some point in the past I could for example stop file managers from other desktop environments from starting that way, but they're now no longer listed there [10:58] its title also says 'extra startup programs', as if there's another list [11:00] well, I guess there's the default list? [11:00] and for me it says: "Startup Application Preferences" [11:00] not extra [11:00] Ubuntu one is not on the list, but it does startup when I log in [11:00] might be the dutch translation but that'd be weird [11:01] running 13.04? [11:01] yeah [11:02] ok maybe my adding/purging gnome-ppas screwed up stuff, I'll keep looking :p [11:03] :) [11:05] thanks for thinking along [11:19] Howdy all [11:32] hey penguin42 [11:34] Hey BK, how goes? [11:35] ok here , and you ? [11:36] good [11:39] I'm trying out 13.04 with yesterday's build but I'm econuntering a few hiccups [11:40] 1- on the livecd if I try to use apt-get to install any software it's unable to locate the packages [11:40] 2- the installer hangs pretty much at the beginning [11:44] anyone? [11:45] Dark_light: You are using Ubuntu? I think you have not forgotten to run apt-get update? [11:46] lordievader: I've ran it and it runs fine [11:46] however that's the lesser of the two problems if it's limited to the live session , the biggest one is not being able to install [11:47] Dark_light: True, I agree, however I have no idea on how to debug your second problem... [11:48] Dark_light: Perhaps they can tell you in #ubuntu-devel. [11:49] Dark_light, can you open any webpages on the live cd using a browser? [11:49] yep [11:49] I'm on the live cd right now on irssi [11:50] so the connection is not the issue [11:50] odd , then apt-get should work [11:51] did you try the package manager , Dark_light? [11:51] Dark_light: Does apt-cache work? For example apt-cache search apache? [11:53] I've tried enabling universe and now apt-get seems to be working ok although I didn't know stuffs like htop were in universe [11:53] !info htop [11:53] htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-1 (raring), package size 66 kB, installed size 185 kB [11:54] well then that was my fault [11:54] but still the installer just hangs [11:59] Dark_light, I had the same problem , it's a bug on 64 bit amd systems ... I installed 12.10 then did a , do-release-upgrade .d , from there to insatll 13.04 , there was no other way for my hardware to be recognized by the the installer /ubiquity [12:00] it seems to be a locale issue from /var/log/installer/debug [12:00] not all 64bit amd , tho [12:11] BluesKaj: or a permission issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/5707491/ [12:13] Dark_light, then your issue is different then mine , the live cd won't even boot into the desktop here. [12:13] BluesKaj: oh it didn't here either if I choose the default boot option [12:15] the no acpi or any of the others didn't work either [12:15] I just choose to boot on of the other options can't remember which one [12:20] unfortunately the devs don't seem to be able to fix the problem or it's so rare that they aren't taking it seriously because it's regarded as an anomaly, Dark_light , perhaps file a bug on your issue.? [12:43] hi all - anyone know how I can get the indicator thingy for dropbox on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit? I have installed and reinstalled dropbox but I just can't get the thing working. Dropbox itself is syncing etc - but just no indicator [13:13] mnk, is dropboxd script in system settings/startup [13:26] BluesKaj, how can I find that out? [13:31] open system settings > startup , look for a daemon called dropboxd , not sure exactly how it looks in unity/gnome , mnk [13:32] yes it is in start up [13:32] dropxbox is actually syncing fine [13:32] i just can't see it in the notification thingy [13:34] mnk, ok ,well then it's working . I'm not sure how to get the icon to show in the system tray on ubuntu/unity panel. I'm a kde user , it just shows up. [13:35] unless you need a reboot [13:41] rebooted already a lot of times [13:47] and you ran the dropbox GUI installer [13:47] yep [13:47] but where it says restart nautilus i did that but nautilus never restarted [13:47] so I had to just open File Manager (nautilus) from the unity launcher and it just restarted fine [13:47] but dropbox didn't do anything after that [13:48] but I know the files are syncing fine [13:48] it didn't take you thru the steps to join dropbox and ask about the account etc ? [13:49] nope [13:49] i already have the db settings though probably cos I have been using db for a while [13:53] BluesKaj, I tried installing and uninstalling a number of times - same problem [13:58] mnk, is .dropbox-dist in your /home dir ? [13:59] yep [14:00] $ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd [14:00] Another instance of Dropbox (10853) is running! [14:00] mnk, try ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd , in a terminal to see if the gui will start or the icon shows up [14:01] ok [14:01] ~/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd [14:01] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" [14:01] Dropboxd, will not start a gui.. its the daemon. [14:01] that's after killing the one that was running [14:02] You need the dropbox executable. [14:03] $ ~/.dropbox-dist/dropbox [14:03] Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar" [14:03] and it didn't open up the indicator thingy either [14:03] btw thanks for your help peeps! really appreciate it [14:04] odd the gui will usually start if the daemon fails ' [14:04] I think the daemon is actually running - but it's just the indicator that isn't showing up [14:05] ]yes , the icon fails to load in the panel due to that gtk error [14:05] hmm interesting [14:05] mnk: I think you should investigate on how to fix that gtk error. [14:06] ok [14:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/overlay-scrollbar/+bug/1134202 [14:06] Launchpad bug 1134202 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "Removing overlay-scrollbar causes lots of noise" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:06] mnk, are you using any fancy themes ? [14:06] naa default one [14:06] ok [14:07] should I install overlay-scrollbar? [14:07] dunno :) ...probly worth a try [14:08] overlay-scrollbar is already the newest version. [14:08] lol [14:10] updated or upgraded lately? [14:10] new install [14:10] still [14:11] 13.04 [14:11] 64 bit [14:11] always update and upgrade a new install [14:11] when is 13.04 being released? [14:11] yeh i've done all the updates and upgrades [14:11] doesn't mean up to date , mnk [14:12] final I mean [14:12] 10days to 2 weeks mattwj2002 [14:12] mattwj2002, 25th April I think [14:12] sweet [14:14] anyone here running dropbox on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit? [14:15] I can't install r8168-dkms on 13.04 here is the error messages & log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5707761/ Any ideas? [14:18] Installation of the r8168-dkms package will disable the in-kernel r8169 [14:18] module. To re-enable r8169, the r8168-dkms package must be purged [14:19] kvarley, no ethernet connection with your existing nic ? [14:19] driver [15:17] any other ideas about dropbox app indicator? [15:30] I just got an email from someone and it says "via canonical.com" asking about 13.04 beta2. I have NO idea why this email would come to me, nor how to solve their problem. [15:32] I got a question, when playing a movie vlc opens then it closes, any ideas why? on ubuntu 13.04 [15:33] thiebaude, are you choosing vlc to open the video? [15:33] yes [15:33] Cheri703, did you register with ubnuntu or canonical recently ? [15:33] er ubuntu [15:34] nope, been an ubuntu member for quite some time, but no idea why what looks like a general support email would come to me [15:34] hmm [15:34] Cheri703: via a forum? [15:35] I wouldn't think so? [15:35] I'd have thought it'd indicate forum? [15:35] and I have nothing to do with 13.04 [15:35] I'm using xubuntu 12.10 right now [15:35] thiebaude, only a particular video or all of them ? [15:35] difficult to know without seeing the headers/footers - or you could just ask them where you got the address [15:35] ohhhhh, weird [15:36] when I went to forward it, I saw the bit that had been hidden. "this message was sent by launchpad by using the "contact this team's admins" link on the Ubuntu-Women Team page" -_- what the heck? [15:36] all the netflix dvd's i have tried, use to not have this problem, before it would play them with no problem at all [15:36] Cheri703: I would say ignore it. probably just some email bot spam thingy [15:36] why the heck would someone email the admin of u-w about a 13.04 question? [15:37] maybe it's mistake and it was sent out to all ubuntu members instaed of a certain group [15:37] Cheri703: Don't assume that people do sane things [15:37] sometimes people go on launchpad and click the email team button looking for support [15:38] you can either ignore it, or point them to this channel or the forums/askubuntu.com [15:38] * Cheri703 forwarded it to IdleOne so he can deal with it ;) [15:39] :O [15:39] thiebaude, install ubuntu-restricted-extras [15:39] IdleOne, the Ask Ubuntu guys won't support a pre-release (a.k.a. 13.04) [15:39] Cheri703, probably divert to the Forums then. [15:39] ok BluesKaj i'll do that, thanks [15:40] Cheri703: that person was in here yesterday asking the same question. I guess they got impatient and went around emailing everybody they could. [15:40] ah, lovely [15:40] * IdleOne deletes the email because they already know about IRC [15:40] Cheri703, people DO get impatient. === sandro__ is now known as |Slacker| [15:50] Hi I have a problem with rtl 8723 wifi driver. (Signal keeps dropping). Any way to boost it. It wasn't production ready in 12.10 but is included in 13.04 [15:55] It doesn't cut out so no major issue just want to boost it if poss [15:55] hutch, Never seen a booster. [15:56] hutch, If you just watching the icon it is not really accurate, if you are not loosing a signal fahget about it. [15:58] ok np I'll wait for upgrades. I used it in Mint 14 as well before and it was dropping to 30% [16:00] In 12.10 Ubuntu I was getting system errors with it but they've stopped in 13.04 :) [16:06] dang! I miss F3 dual view in nautilus [16:11] whyever has it been left out [16:48] BluesKaj: Sorry for the massive delay. Yeah I do have a net connection with the currently module but it hangs at times and is slower than expected. [16:48] Has anyone used the daily raring server build? [16:50] I keep getting unmet dependencies when installer tries to install kernel [18:02] How usable is 13.04 at this stage? [18:03] roughly two weeks from release [18:03] Dark_light: As a beta, it is not usable for production yet. [18:04] Dark_light, usable as a home user here [18:05] well I can deal with the occasional bug but I'd need something that is stable enough not to crash xorg or become unbootable [18:06] afterall at two weeks away from release I hope most of the critical bugs have been sorted out [18:07] or am I wrong? [18:07] no gurantees at this stage , if you have a back up OS then by all means try it [18:07] hard to say [18:08] one more question, I haven't used *buntu distro in a while, If I install a beta and just keep it up to date I should end up with the final release without hiccups right? [18:08] yup [18:08] yep [18:08] !final | Dark_light [18:08] Dark_light: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Raring and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [18:11] ok thank you [18:11] np === |Slacker| is now known as cristiano === cristiano is now known as sancris [20:29] How'd you install 13.04 the installer keeps hanging on me [20:29] Dark_light: tried another build? [20:30] Dark_light, You checked the disc integrity, and or the md5sum [20:30] wilee-nilee: it's a known issue I don't have the link to the bug report at hand but it's easy to find googling [20:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701 [20:32] Launchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed] [20:38] I managed to get past that [20:39] just a question to stay current on a beta should I run apt-get dist-upgrade too or just update? [20:39] !upgrade [20:39] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [20:39] or is it !final ? [20:40] !final [20:40] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Raring and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 13.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [20:40] Dark_light, The only thing I would say is that you are working on assumptions to some extent you may have a bad download. dist-upgarde [20:40] so dist-upgrade only for the transistion to the official release? [20:41] wilee-nilee: well the bug report is there and apparently I'm not the only one I just followed a dirty fix posted there [20:41] dist-upgrade , upgrades the installed packages , not the OS [20:42] Dark_light, You are still assuming in all that. ;) [20:43] wilee-nilee: well yeah I haven't made an extensive test to sort out all the probable causes but that one seems to be the most probable one I think, anyway I'm installing :-) [20:43] alias distupgrade='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [20:43] I just run that everytime I login [20:43] been doing that for half a decade [20:44] I've never used a *buntu or debian distro long enough to have the chance of using it hence the confusion :P [20:44] I mean using dist-upgrade [20:46] so basically dist-upgrade is used when jumping between versions even from like a beta to a rc? [20:46] sorry if the questions seems stupid as I said I have very small experience with apt-get [20:46] dist-upgrade should really have been named full-upgrade [20:47] I almost always have packages that require dist- [20:47] Basically it means "upgrade, even upgrade stuff if you have to add and remove other packages to satisfy dependencies" [20:47] Dark_light: on the same OS version, it upgrades the packages within it [20:48] ok but aren't versions "fixed" once it's stable? [20:48] or in a freeze [20:48] Dark_light: there are always upgrades [20:49] ok then I'll run both, thanks for the help ;-) [20:49] btw just finished installing too [20:49] rebooting brb [20:49] you can keep a particular setup like a LTS [20:50] To update upgrade I run. sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-fast update ; sudo apt-fast dist-upgrade ; dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages this last part save the installed list [20:50] fast? [20:51] FernandoMiguel, apt-fast calls multiple repos at once it is faster and loads the installs at the same time [20:51] you just choose yes or no for the install [20:51] AH [20:51] I miss the MIRROR feature :( [20:51] it's dead [20:52] I have the daily development release at the very end as well. click it and forget it, lol [20:54] # deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring main restricted universe multiverse [20:54] I mean this wilee-nilee [20:54] it would pick the best mirror for you [20:54] hey has anyone used gptsync before? I'm having an issue getting it to see the partition i have flagged as boot. [20:55] FernandoMiguel, I use the main, I'm in the U.S. I have found some faster, however apt-fast would make that even faster. [20:56] then you get mirrors outdated and you are screwed [20:56] I used to pull from 3 [20:56] now I just use a close fast one that rsyncs every hour [20:56] apt-fast is ok , just don't use any ppas [20:56] FernandoMiguel, never had a problem. [20:56] in 5 years [20:57] ok [20:57] never hear of it [20:57] mucked up my sources list , wilee-nilee [20:57] BluesKaj, How so you can get a new list easily. [20:58] wilee-nilee: yeah , but sometimes one forgets about ppas and I didn't know that the ppas would break the sources access [20:59] BluesKaj: LOLOL backups backups backups [20:59] anyway my sources here in Canada are pretty quick [21:00] I clone all my installs and rsync home, and keep most everything on externals except the OS's [21:01] yeah , I do that with important files [21:02] I hate asking for help, so I'm setup to just learn from others mistakes. ;) [21:03] and mu own I figure out [21:03] my* [21:10] I would love to know who messed up grub2 iso boot [21:10] my 3yo DOCs are no long valid [21:11] when it hit the actual 2 build I saw users loosing their boot, it was funny. [21:11] happened once to me [21:12] supergrub to the rescue easy boot in a reload, rather then booting a live cd or manually booting. [21:15] I used to have a daily iso and the latest stable iso plus chromiumOS [21:15] and now it doesn't work :\ [21:18] FernandoMiguel, You have them in a non os partition? [21:18] on /boot [21:18] FernandoMiguel, I have not booted them this way, however the wiki suggests a partition just for ISO's. [21:19] link? [21:19] like I said, something changed [21:19] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#ISO_File_Location [21:19] I used to be able to mount-loop them from any location [21:19] that info has been there for awhile, but they did update the page in march. [21:22] sudo apt-get install grml-rescueboot [21:22] well, let's test that. thanks wilee-nilee [21:22] I keep getting unmet dependencies when installer gets to installing the kernel anyone have any ideas? [21:22] wilee-nilee: I wrote the 1st failsafe wiki for booting grub2 from iso even before the official packaged mentioned it [21:23] packetfrog: it was fine here [21:23] ;/ [21:24] Found Grml ISO image: /boot/grml/raring-desktop-amd64.iso [21:24] done [21:24] ah [21:24] darn grub develops, lol [21:25] FernandoMiguel, your are not a former UF mod are you? [21:25] noo, not the international ones, no. just a loco ones [21:25] from what I read, it was the UEFI changes that broke it [21:25] buuu [21:26] Why oh why does raring hate me so [21:26] I remember having to compile grub2 from source to get UEFI booting on our DELLS [21:26] packetfrog: it doesn't hate you, it's just picky with whom are his friends [21:26] well spit on him [21:27] Ah, I was wondering if you were drs305 they had all the good grub stuff going on for awhile [21:28] Why would'nt the installer download something if needed it? [21:28] im confused [21:28] +it [21:28] wilee-nilee: FernandoMiguel for a while now, and BUGabundo for over a decade before [21:28] packetfrog: known bug [21:29] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701 [21:29] Launchpad bug 1080701 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Raring) "After 'Preparing to install Ubuntu' screen, raring installation hangs" [High,Confirmed] [21:29] :< [21:29] poor little raring has a bug! [21:29] waste of a cdr [21:30] ahaaha [21:30] packetfrog: protip netbootme [21:30] that's who I install/test dailies [21:30] or with grub booting isos [21:31] ? [21:31] packetfrog: ?? [21:33] FernandoMiguel, That is awesome [21:35] bugabundo: a decade or borked software, and many, many bug reports [21:35] but few, few fixes [21:36] bjsnider: and many many hours spent in here acting like a bot [21:36] FernandoMiguel, netboot.me is almost as awesome as rice and rice is really awesome [21:36] bjsnider: it's that attitude that led to the decline of me filing bugs [21:37] :p [21:37] I still have on package in the archive with my patch :p [21:37] it's better than nothing [21:40] oh, you thought the purpose of reporting bugs was that they get fixed... [21:40] Are you guys friends? [21:42] bah figures. netboot.me loads up goes black and hangs [21:42] yay [21:42] another cdr for the trash [21:42] ahaha [21:43] packetfrog: did you make your own package yet? [21:43] I have it on a 4yo dvd :p [21:43] YAY it did something this time [21:43] third time was a cahr, [21:43] charm [21:43] COOOKIES! === Aww is now known as Guest58719 === Guest58719 is now known as Aww [21:45] my own package no [21:45] i downloaded the cd and burned it like an idiot [21:46] apparently it is NOT updated at all [21:47] super lame [21:49] packetfrog, use zysnc on the dailies [21:49] * packetfrog looks at wilee-nilee blankly [21:50] then you will know, zync reads the iso\ and adds updates if needed [21:50] zsync [21:51] sudo ionice -c3 zsync -i /boot/raring-desktop-amd64.iso -o /T/raring-desktop-amd64.iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/raring-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync [21:51] here's another protip for you guys [21:51] packetfrog: that's the beauty of it [21:51] you make your own receipt and give the ID on boot [21:52] no more need to change the CD [21:52] While I am sure that all makes sense to you but it does not to me. [21:52] :) [21:52] RTMFM? [21:52] :) [21:52] lol [21:52] Fuck your self? [21:52] Rude pricks [21:53] let's avoid faul language [21:53] Lets avoid being a prick. [21:53] for real, just create an account [21:53] create a receipe [21:53] I am not asking for an explanation [21:53] and boot from it [21:53] packetfrog, Don't take things personally I was loling at FernandoMiguel and now you are in ignore. [21:56] Reading the manual is very helpful, when I know wfm I am looking to read. Was my point. [21:56] I do not know if you are talking about netbootme [21:56] or my messed up ubuntu iso [21:56] or santa [21:56] thanks anyway. I wont be coming here again [21:58] wilee-nilee: I used to have a very long and complex setup to get, md5, and boot images, 32/64, flavours, cd/dvds [21:59] Read /boot/grml/raring-desktop-amd64.iso. Target 37.9% complete. [21:59] that's just sad :( [22:00] yeah [22:01] I need a bigger SSD.... not enough space in /boot/grml to put a nightly of chromiumOS [22:01] I should write a wiki page on my swap over LAN setup LOL [22:01] FernandoMiguel, I bought a 256 gigger run nicely [22:01]