[08:06] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee on
[08:06]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:06] <Kilos> morning all
[08:06] <Cantide> thanks :)
[08:10] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:10] <Kilos> Maaz: danke
[08:10] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:15] <Kilos> aw for once mxit is sick
[08:15] <Kilos> normally very stable, reliable, and fast
[08:22] <not_found> whatsapp is where its att now :p
[08:29] <Cantide> Kakao Talk <3
[08:36] <Kilos> hi not_found hard work to get whatsapp going on a pc
[08:37] <Kilos> i tried a while back. tons of android stuff to download and still couldnt get it to work
[08:37] <Kilos> grrr
[08:38] <Kilos> i cant even get mxit on a browser so their servers here must be sicka
[08:39] <Kilos> not a fan of trying to chat on a cell
[08:48]  * not_found goes sleepy for night shift... have a good one
[09:07] <Kilos> yay mxit must been down for upgrading
[09:12] <Kilos> musta
[09:13] <Cantide> is it back now?
[10:05] <Kilos> yip Cantide 
[10:06] <Kilos> all good
[12:13] <Squirm> meh
[12:13] <Squirm> broken quadcopter :/
[12:14] <Squirm> wait
[12:14] <Squirm> no it's not
[14:15] <Kilos> hi psyatw Trixar_za 
[14:16] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[14:16] <Kilos> what do you know about floppies
[14:16] <Kilos> is there such a thing as a 2.88m floppy or is it a 1.4m formatted that way
[14:18] <Kilos> i find nothing about 2.88m floppies with google
[14:20] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[14:20] <psyatw> hi Trixar_za 
[14:21] <Trixar_za> Hey psyatw
[14:28] <Squirm> Kilos: I've only heard of 1.4mb
[14:29] <Kilos> yeah me too but in bios you can choose 2.88m as well. does bios control the size?
[14:29] <Squirm> no
[14:29] <Squirm> it'll be the disk itself
[14:30] <Squirm> maybe it's a similar concept to cds and dvds. same physical size, different way of burning the data to them
[14:30] <Kilos> ai! one of them will sort all my bios flashing probs
[14:30] <Squirm> anyway, I have to go now
[14:30] <Kilos> go safe
[14:30] <Squirm> chat later
[14:30] <Kilos> ty
[14:30] <Squirm> *gone
[14:32] <Kilos> yo Cantide 
[14:32] <Cantide> hello :p
[14:32] <Cantide> just cycled 8 km
[14:32] <Cantide> i am unfit :<
[14:41] <Kilos> hehe
[14:42] <Kilos> at least you made 8 ks
[14:42] <Cantide> :p
[14:42] <Cantide> should make 15 easily
[15:01] <Kilos> hi Mezenir Vince-0 
[15:02] <Vince-0> heyo
[15:04] <Cantide> hey-0
[15:12] <charl> hi Cantide 
[15:12] <charl> hi Kilos 
[15:12] <Cantide> hi :)
[15:13] <charl> did you see psy's new music video?
[15:13] <Kilos> hi charl 
[15:13] <charl> i don't know what to make of it, it's catchy but i don't like the "abuse" in it
[15:13] <Kilos> nope dont look at vids they eat data
[15:13] <charl> yeah it's a problem if you don't have internet
[15:14] <charl> was wondering what cantide thought though, considering it's going korea :)
[15:14] <charl> *he's sorry :)
[15:14] <charl> talking about people on irc as "it" is not so good :D
[15:14] <Cantide> i don't classify that as abuse though
[15:14] <Cantide> more like practical jokes
[15:14] <charl> yeah
[15:14] <Cantide> but yeah, it's not really good
[15:15] <charl> but i mean for him to try and repeat his previous success would be impractical
[15:15] <charl> something like gangnam style you only do once
[15:15] <Cantide> yeah, because nothing will live up to it
[15:15] <charl> exactly
[15:15] <Cantide> he's just riding the gravy train :p
[15:15] <charl> you shouldn't even try
[15:15] <charl> lol precisely
[15:15] <charl> i'm busy watching the 6-part bbc "africa" documentary
[15:15] <Cantide> eh
[15:16] <Cantide> the BBC were undercover in North Korea 2 weeks ago
[15:16] <Cantide> posing as students
[15:16] <Cantide> i want to see that when it's released :D
[15:16] <charl> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_(TV_series)
[15:16] <charl> oh yes certainly
[15:16] <charl> i want to see it as well
[15:17] <Cantide> the monkey in the picture looks like he's wearing a red tie :)
[15:17] <charl> yup exactly
[15:17] <Mezenir> hey kilos :)
[15:17] <charl> funny enough i thought the same thing subconciously :)
[15:18] <charl> hi Mezenir 
[15:18] <Mezenir> hi charl
[15:19] <Cantide> charl, what's your take on this whole North Korea "crisis" at the moment?
[15:19] <charl> i think it's a big blown up thing personally
[15:20] <Cantide> it is
[15:20] <charl> especially because america seems to have provoked it
[15:20] <Cantide> and i think the media is fueling it 
[15:20] <charl> yes
[15:20] <Cantide> but ultimately i can't see a war starting
[15:20] <Cantide> it's in no one's interest, especially not North Korea's
[15:21] <charl> yeah they will be flattened
[15:22] <Cantide> so my plans are still on, unless something drastic happens soon
[15:22] <charl> how can the small north korea take on south korea, america, japan and everyone else
[15:22] <Cantide> haha
[15:22] <Cantide> yeah
[15:22] <Cantide> exactly
[15:22] <charl> even russia seems to be siding with america on this one
[15:22] <Cantide> and they barely have enough food and fuel
[15:22] <Cantide> if the war lasts anything longer than 3 days, which it will, North Korea will be forced to surrender
[15:22] <Cantide> the only worry is China
[15:22] <Cantide> but they don't want a war
[15:23] <charl> well, not right now
[15:23] <charl> i don't trust china but they have made no signal of open hostility towards anyone at this point
[15:23] <Cantide> yes
[15:24] <Cantide> but why are they still supporting NK via aid?
[15:24] <charl> it's an old communist bond i think
[15:24] <Cantide> they could cut off supply unless NK abandon their insanity
[15:24] <Cantide> probably that
[15:24] <charl> we should not forget where modern china came out of
[15:24] <Cantide> also, i think if things got really bad, China would have 20 million refugees to handle
[15:25] <charl> there's a theory that america is trying to drive a wedge between north korea and china with this nonsense that they provoked
[15:25] <charl> i get the impression that america is behind most of the BS
[15:25] <charl> and north korea seems to be "falling" for it perfectly and playing into their hands
[15:26] <charl> maybe america wants to use this as an excuse to put more forces and arms in the area, perhaps as a measure against other (real) threats
[15:26] <charl> you can carry on speculating
[15:26] <Cantide> lol
[15:26] <Cantide> those are some good speculations though
[15:27] <charl> well america have decided to put a smaller missile defence installation in eastern europe and increase their defenses in alaska instead
[15:27] <Cantide> still, i wish they would just wipe out the North Korean government / military, liberate the people and then work towards reunification
[15:27] <charl> i wonder if they are scared of china/russia, but it's hard to see it on the front
[15:27] <Cantide> they very well could be
[15:28] <Cantide> still, i think the world has moved on after WW2
[15:28] <Cantide> it's all about resources now
[15:28] <charl> perhaps, china and japan had a military show-off about some territories that are high in oil
[15:28] <Cantide> yeah
[15:29] <Cantide> and they use those islands as a facade for their true purpose
[15:30] <Cantide> 'o'
[15:30] <charl> it's a blurry mess if you look at it, but i get the impression that these "conflicts" are an excuse for governments to keep pushing money into military resources
[15:30] <Cantide> and that
[15:30] <charl> and look at the debt that is being racked up by it
[15:30] <Cantide> well, having a strong military is a useful thing
[15:30] <charl> that debt has to be payed sooner or later
[15:30] <charl> eventually the whole world belongs to the IMF
[15:30] <Cantide> :D
[15:31] <charl> bsh i dunno, i try not to overthink these things :P we'll see where it goes regardless
[15:31] <charl> *bah
[15:31] <Cantide> South Africa is relatively neutral
[15:32] <Cantide> but moving to Asia might put me in harm's way
[15:32] <charl> in south africa the conflict seems to be internal
[15:32] <Cantide> indeed
[15:32] <charl> at the end of the day, you could die no matter what you do
[15:32] <Cantide> i feel more at risk in SA than i do in Korea, despite the war
[15:32] <charl> the rumors in europe are so bad about south africa, you would believe you get shot on the street if you visit
[15:32] <Cantide> haha
[15:33] <Cantide> it's true - but only if you're on the wrong street :p
[15:33] <charl> yeah that's what i also try to tell people
[15:33] <Cantide> i'm sure if i go to one of the more dangerous areas i'd be at serious risk
[15:33] <charl> it depends on where exactly you are
[15:33] <Cantide> well, i live in a relatively safe area
[15:33] <Cantide> and this morning my dad was threatened while taking the dog for a walk
[15:34] <charl> threatened?
[15:34] <Cantide> well, some people said they'd hit him
[15:34] <Cantide> for what reason i don't know
[15:34] <charl> ooh :(
[15:34] <charl> i once went with a former colleague of mine (canadian) and she accidentally steered us into south east london
[15:34] <Cantide> he doesn't know either
[15:34] <Cantide> what's down there?
[15:34] <charl> even in europe there are some places that are better to stay out of
[15:34] <Cantide> lol
[15:34] <charl> dunno but the people that live there looked shady
[15:34] <Cantide> haha
[15:34] <charl> the two of us got pretty freaked out
[15:35] <charl> got out of there asap
[15:35] <Cantide> i think one of the biggest threats here now is drugs
[15:35] <charl> maybe it's just because we don't know the region, it's easy to make assumptions
[15:35] <Cantide> people on drugs commit crazy crimes to try to get money for more drugs
[15:35] <Cantide> yeah
[15:36] <Cantide> still, if you don't feel safe, rather get away :p
[15:36] <charl> in cape town there was always a big problem with drugs
[15:36] <Cantide> KZN, too
[15:36] <charl> i used to work at the university of the western cape at the FSIU
[15:36] <Cantide> wb Kilos 
[15:36] <Kilos> ty
[15:36] <Cantide> i have to help with dinner
[15:36] <Cantide> bbl!
[15:36] <charl> one of the projects that one of my colleagues was working on was for providing drug users with help
[15:37] <charl> ciao Cantide 
[15:41] <Cantide> ah
[15:41] <Cantide> that's a difficult project :<
[16:13] <charl> well we were just opening up a channel of support
[16:13] <charl> so that on its own wasn't too bad
[16:13] <charl> but it's a difficult area to work in
[16:14] <charl> i wasn't directly involved though
[16:41] <Squirm> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/columns/74997-facebook-home-the-trojan-horse.html
[17:39] <Vince-0> Squirm, you tried it?
[17:40] <Squirm> Vince-0: nope, still phoneless
[17:41] <Vince-0> meh, you might be better off
[17:41] <Vince-0> I use mine for games mostly
[17:42] <Squirm> trying to get the Nexus 4. I know someone coming over from the states, just waiting to hear if he can bring it over
[18:19] <Symmetria> sup all
[18:20]  * Symmetria went and bought loads and loads of good kenyan coffee today
[18:23] <Squirm> lo
[18:23] <Squirm> Symmetria: k, I'm coming around then
[18:23] <Symmetria> lol I bought 4.5kgs worth
[18:23] <Squirm> ok, then we're all coming around :P
[18:24] <Symmetria> its pretty damn cheap here, basically 100 dollars for 4.5kgs worth of coffee beans
[18:24] <Squirm> that's a lot of coffee
[18:29] <Symmetria> hehehe yeah but now Im stocked for at least 2 months
[18:37] <Squirm> depends if I visit
[18:37] <Squirm> though it is a little far for some coffee
[18:45] <magespawn> evening all
[18:46] <magespawn> not if the coffee is that good
[18:57] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:57] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[18:58] <Kilos> Maaz: announce Meeting tomorrow night guys and gals
[18:58] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Meeting tomorrow night guys and gals
[18:58] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:11] <charl> Symmetria: very good, i spent about a month in kenya and was complete spoiled by both the kenyan coffee and the kenyan tea
[19:11] <charl> some of the best coffee and tea i have ever had