| myscithaman | which adober flash do i need for xubuntu? | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| GeissT | Generally, the Linux one for your architecture (32 or 64 bit) | 00:11 |
| myscithaman | look on the following website, please check drop down list, isnt one of those good for xubuntu? http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ | 00:11 |
| GeissT | Xubuntu is Linux yes? Then choose the linux one. | 00:12 |
| GeissT | APT is your preferred. | 00:12 |
| myscithaman | thank you | 00:12 |
| GeissT | Welcome. | 00:12 |
| knome | well the preferred one is from the repositories | 00:12 |
| GeissT | knome: Agreed, but as myscithaman asked about the website I thought it best to point him/her there. 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer' will work too myscithaman | 00:16 |
| myscithaman | knome, how do i get my firefox to run all kinds of vids and java and well, be media friendly? I am testing out this xubuntu, and it looks great, but it just crached the software center and said there is no flash plugin. | 00:16 |
| xubuntu541 | hi, I'm having troubles with my time setting on the top panel of my xubuntu. I go into time and date and set the time with my password and everything, but it always wants to go back an hour the next time I log in. In other words, it won't stay set. How do I fix it? | 00:17 |
| myscithaman | thanks, i'll do that one | 00:17 |
| myscithaman | brb | 00:17 |
| GeissT | xubuntu541 have you tried any solutions from here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1858354 | 00:17 |
| GeissT | Sometimes the GUI can be a little clanky :) | 00:18 |
| knome | myscithaman, i would suggest installing the "xubuntu-restricted-extras" package | 00:18 |
| knome | myscithaman, that will install the flash plugin as well as other things you might want, like an mp3 codec | 00:18 |
| xubuntu541 | no o.k. this site will help with my time setting? | 00:18 |
| GeissT | xubuntu541: It should do, if not we can try something else. | 00:19 |
| xubuntu541 | o.k. I'll try it thanks | 00:19 |
| GeissT | You're welcome | 00:19 |
| myscithaman | cntrl alt T doesnt work :-( | 00:21 |
| myscithaman | what is going to make it work ? :( | 00:21 |
| myscithaman | oh, super t yaya, something new :) | 00:22 |
| GeissT | xubuntu541: if that didn't work, this can also be a solution (http://askubuntu.com/questions/232592/xubuntu-12-04-wrong-time-change-system-language) | 00:24 |
| xubuntu541 | o.k. so at that site, they say to go to time and date and let it load up the internet connection for setting the time. Is that o.k. on xubuntu? | 00:27 |
| bazhang | sure | 00:28 |
| xubuntu541 | bazhang are you saying "sure" to me? | 00:29 |
| myscithaman | xubuntu is pretty good, but the restricted extras still did not let the cnn play the vid | 00:36 |
| SunStar | try installing totem and all its extras, rhythembox n its extras n vvlc | 00:49 |
| SunStar | one of those should fix it | 00:49 |
| knome | most probably not. | 00:52 |
| lderan | is there a way to stop notifications from appearing on both my screens? | 00:53 |
| knome | pleia2, look at the same url | 00:54 |
| knome | pleia2, re: bar/session photo, you can decide | 00:54 |
| pleia2 | ok | 00:55 |
| knome | oops :) | 00:55 |
| pleia2 | knome! | 00:55 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i was using a 32 bit on 64 amd 64 bit system lol no wonder everything wasnt working right i have amd 64 bit copy of xubuntu 12.10 now i have audio and my docky is working right | 02:00 |
| ball | Is docky the poppy-up thing at the bottom of my screen? | 02:01 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | yes | 02:01 |
| ball | Is there a way to permanently remove that? | 02:01 |
| lderan | hover over it | 02:02 |
| lderan | right click and remove from panel, when you're hovering over the grey bit | 02:02 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | all you have to do go to software center to delete it i think | 02:03 |
| lderan | or not, weird | 02:03 |
| ball | Can I make the whole panel go away and never come back? | 02:03 |
| pleia2 | ball: under panel preferences the big red - sign is to remove it | 02:04 |
| lderan | ah ha found it | 02:04 |
| lderan | thats it | 02:04 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i like myself lol | 02:04 |
| pleia2 | (that will fully delete it, you can't get it back) | 02:04 |
| ball | Great, thanks! | 02:04 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | it* | 02:04 |
| ball | I'll add that to my list of things to fix whenever I install Xubuntu | 02:05 |
| Unit193 | ball: It's actually just xfce4-panel. | 02:05 |
| ball | Unit193: I was going to ask whether that was an Xfce thing or something Xubuntu-specific. | 02:06 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | plz tell me are they going to fix the error in raring ringtail xubuntu when youadd files to k3b | 02:06 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | add* | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | ball: It's Xubuntu, but it's only using the xfce4-panel. | 02:07 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | oaky | 02:07 |
| * ball nods | 02:07 | |
| ball | Someone probably finds it useful. Not everyone uses computers the way I do. | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | star5gyhujklp9i8: No idea, k3b is a KDE application, so you could just the Kubuntu release notes too when it's released. | 02:07 |
| Unit193 | ball: Indeed, indeed. Everyone (should) have their own setup instructions. :) | 02:08 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i love xubuntu 12.10 | 02:08 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | raring ringtail is just a maintence os | 02:08 |
| ball | I don't even know what version this is. It's getting wiped tonight but I'll probably install it on another disk in the same computer. | 02:08 |
| ball | I'm doing some disk-juggling | 02:09 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | okay | 02:09 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i dont do that . im happy with my hp 6 dandelion breeze | 02:10 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i just recently replaced my hard drive too' | 02:10 |
| ball | No idea what a "Dandelion Breeze" is. | 02:14 |
| pleia2 | the internet tells me it's a pretty laptop with dandelions on it :) | 02:18 |
| shape | Hi, anyone have any suggestions for fixing HD video tearing in Xubuntu? most fixes on the wikis recommend CCSM (which I have tried regardless anyway), and i have already been through 6 nvidia drivers. | 02:23 |
| n-iCe | hi | 02:25 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | how to get single mp3s for free in xubuntu 12.10 | 02:37 |
| Unit193 | You can use http://www.jamendo.com/, but that's a little out of scope for here. | 02:38 |
| ball | star5gyhujklp9i8: how is that a Xubuntu question? | 02:38 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | well im using xbuntu | 02:39 |
| Unit193 | Sure, but it isn't an Xubuntu question. | 02:39 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | what channel to got o | 02:39 |
| ball | I use Xubuntu, what kind of roof should I buy for my house? | 02:39 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | lol i see your point' | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | ball: Blue. | 02:40 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | how can i get my revolving wallpaper to stay changing . i got it set to image list and i set it to1 min. it doesnt stay changing | 02:43 |
| ball | Thanks Unit193. :-) | 02:43 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | im running 12.10 | 02:43 |
| xubuntu833 | I',m running 12.10 and it's bored, it's best mac or windows :/ | 02:44 |
| xubuntu833 | Alguien habla español. ? | 02:45 |
| ball | xubuntu833: do you mean it's bored or that it's boring? | 02:45 |
| ball | (that you find it boring?) | 02:45 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | my wallpaper does not want to change after i add my pics to image list | 02:45 |
| xubuntu833 | bored :c | 02:45 |
| xubuntu833 | its bored | 02:45 |
| ball | I don't think that makes any sense in English | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu833: Let it play tick tack toe? Can you restate your question using different words? | 02:46 |
| xubuntu833 | nobody speack spanish ? | 02:47 |
| Unit193 | !es | xubuntu833 | 02:47 |
| ubottu | xubuntu833: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es. | 02:47 |
| n-iCe | xubuntu833: dime | 02:47 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | WE SPEAK ENGLISH | 02:47 |
| n-iCe | xubuntu833: dime qué pasó? | 02:48 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | I DONT SPEAK SPANISH | 02:48 |
| Unit193 | star5gyhujklp9i8: Calm down, he's talking to the person that does. | 02:49 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | HEY UNIT 193 CAN YOU HELP ME WITH MY WALLPAPER PROBLEM | 02:50 |
| Unit193 | !caps | star5gyhujklp9i8 | 02:50 |
| ubottu | star5gyhujklp9i8: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too. | 02:50 |
| Unit193 | star5gyhujklp9i8: You're seeing this? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=140843 | 02:51 |
| star5gyhujklp9i8 | i cannot get my wallpaper to change very well and ive add them to image list | 02:51 |
| Unit193 | It's not made to switch like that, as far as I can tell. | 02:52 |
| Unit193 | You could use something like wally or use crontab to reload xfwm4. | 02:53 |
| n-iCe | guys | 03:04 |
| n-iCe | I think my fans are not working | 03:04 |
| n-iCe | How can I check it? | 03:04 |
| n-iCe | laptop gets really hot since I installed xubuntu | 03:04 |
| n-iCe | VGN-CR160F | 03:05 |
| sudoair_ | anyone care to help a noob | 04:29 |
| holstein | sudoair_: just ask, and see if a volunteer can help | 04:29 |
| sudoair_ | ok, so i'm trying to install xubuntu but my wired connection doesn't connect, it just keeps trying and then tells me its disconnected | 04:30 |
| sudoair_ | so i'm trying to follow some of the fixes on here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968469 | 04:30 |
| holstein | sudoair_: do you want to install? or connect the live CD to the internet? | 04:30 |
| sudoair_ | i've already installed | 04:31 |
| holstein | sudoair_: i woulnt necessarily do both | 04:31 |
| sudoair_ | without internet | 04:31 |
| holstein | sudoair_: ok.. so, youa re *not* trying to install xubuntu then, correct? | 04:31 |
| holstein | sudoair_: you *have* already installed? | 04:31 |
| sudoair_ | correct | 04:31 |
| holstein | sudoair_: ok.. and the wired network is not working? | 04:31 |
| sudoair_ | yes | 04:31 |
| holstein | sudoair_: are you sure the hardware is functional? | 04:31 |
| sudoair_ | well, it has worked in the past | 04:32 |
| holstein | sudoair_: if you "hit a wall" with this, you might want to confirm the hardware is functional | 04:32 |
| holstein | sudoair_: have you checked the bios to see if its disabled there? open a terminal and run "lspci" and see if you see the NIC | 04:32 |
| sudoair_ | i see PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller | 04:33 |
| holstein | sudoair_: do you have another way to connect that is working? | 04:34 |
| sudoair_ | no, all i have is a usb wireless adapter and it does not work without some effort | 04:34 |
| sudoair_ | as in, getting ndiswrapper and some drivers | 04:35 |
| sudoair_ | the ethernet was working just a couple hours ago | 04:35 |
| sudoair_ | when i accidently installed the 32bit version of xubuntu | 04:35 |
| sudoair_ | and now that i've installed the 64 bit, it no longer works | 04:35 |
| sudoair_ | i was going to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968469 post #5 | 04:35 |
| holstein | sudoair_: if this is a fresh install, i would just go back to the 32bit.. though, its likely you did 32bit one version and 64 another | 04:36 |
| sudoair_ | but i can't install gedit | 04:36 |
| holstein | sudoair_: you can use nano instead of gedit | 04:36 |
| holstein | sudoair_: just install the 32bit... | 04:36 |
| holstein | sudoair_: if you want to try that "fix", use nano | 04:37 |
| sudoair_ | thanks | 04:45 |
| martukas | recovering data from an encrypted xub volume has unraveled into an LVM problem. can anyone help me navigate this? | 05:34 |
| martukas | pvs gives me /dev/mapper/encrypto1 xubuntu lvm2 a-- 7.75g 32.00m which is correct, but if VG is 'xubuntu' then I should do lvdisplay /dev/xubuntu ? this one gives me references to my primary drive, not the one I'm after | 05:37 |
| greg_ | hello, i got a question: If I install the daily build today, and run apt-get upgrade on release date, will it then be like the real release? (with custom installed software) | 09:42 |
| baizon | greg_ yes | 09:55 |
| xubuntu884 | this might seem a super stupid question but how do i install xubuntu from a cd or sd card to my HDD (got 8gb sd card and 800mb disc thats my only options) | 11:08 |
| baizon | xubuntu884: http://www.tecmint.com/xubuntu-12-10-desktop-quantal-quetzal-linux-installation-guide/ | 11:09 |
| baizon | this is a guide for example | 11:10 |
| xubuntu884 | baizon i get this message "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" | 11:17 |
| bazhang | how did you write it | 11:19 |
| bazhang | if this is the hybrid iso ie 12.10 you have more options than before | 11:20 |
| xubuntu884 | I just downloaded the iso and dragged and droped it on to the cd and then put cd in my pc and booted off it | 11:22 |
| bazhang | http://askubuntu.com/questions/197845/from-terminal-how-make-a-live-usb-for-all-distros-not-only-for-ubuntu xubuntu884 | 11:22 |
| bazhang | yeah drag and drop is not going to work | 11:23 |
| xubuntu884 | what have you got to do then? :S | 11:23 |
| bekks | xubuntu884: So you created a data CD, containing just one file, the .iso - thats not supposed to be bootable- | 11:23 |
| bazhang | see the link above. you can dd it or even use cat | 11:23 |
| bazhang | pretty nifty that you can use cat these days | 11:24 |
| bazhang | read the link I posted above for you xubuntu884 | 11:24 |
| xubuntu321 | :-) | 13:28 |
| xubuntu321 | morning | 13:29 |
| lderan | morning | 13:43 |
| cfhowlett | greetings | 13:51 |
| MySciThaMan | hey guys, i'll come back in a little while. | 14:56 |
| tadsq | hello | 15:15 |
| lderan_ | hi | 15:15 |
| tadsq | someone know why fn+f9 dont work on xubuntu but is fine on ubuntu ? | 15:17 |
| myscithaman | hi guys, when i run the mint 14 xfce i get cnn working with video right off the bat. why does it work and xubuntu doesn have it? whats missing in xubuntu? how can i make xubuntu do that? I like xubuntu and the set up, the color, the way things are laid out, i just need to be able to watch news vids etc etc | 15:37 |
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| Myrtti | myscithaman: xubuntu-restricted-extras | 15:46 |
| myscithaman | i tried that Myrtti it didnt work | 15:49 |
| Tm_T | myscithaman: what didn't work? | 15:49 |
| Myrtti | so what videos specifically do you want to watch, what encoding? | 15:49 |
| myscithaman | maybe it needed restart | 15:49 |
| Myrtti | and with what did you try to watch them? | 15:50 |
| myscithaman | i am trying something, but basically i want to be able to play browser vids, conn youtube etc etc, it doesnt play them, xubuntu says i need flash, btu then there is not flash installer in the software center, i will try the flashplugin-installer thing | 15:50 |
| myscithaman | cnn, i tried cnn | 15:50 |
| Myrtti | well you do need to restart the browser after installing flash | 15:51 |
| Myrtti | cnn is flash video | 15:52 |
| === lderan_ is now known as lderan | ||
| myscithaman | hey guys a little help getting flash to play on xubuntu?? http://pastebin.com/sL4AnYFL | 16:16 |
| myscithaman | the paste has what i have attempted so far... any ideas? | 16:17 |
| Myrtti | myscithaman: so your computer can't get the packages from the internet. | 16:22 |
| myscithaman | this is a live disk, is that why? | 16:23 |
| Myrtti | does the internet work otherwise? | 16:24 |
| myscithaman | yeah it is working | 16:24 |
| myscithaman | you think i should try it again? | 16:24 |
| Myrtti | well you could | 16:25 |
| myscithaman | i installed adobe flash through software center, and restared firefox, maybe this time | 16:25 |
| myscithaman | it seems to be working now | 16:27 |
| myscithaman | dark lightning radiation strikes? cnn works, but really? lightning that gives you cacner in a second? owell, hey thanks Myrtti | 16:29 |
| myscithaman | a debconf window keeps poping up and closing quickley. what is that? and the script keeps asking if it should keep running. is that normal? i think it is an ad | 16:34 |
| semitones | hello peeps | 16:56 |
| semitones | hey you gusy | 16:56 |
| semitones | I am thinking of switching to xubuntu on my slowish laptop | 16:56 |
| semitones | and I've heard | 16:56 |
| Cheri703 | semitones: ! welcome :) I've made the switch myself, a few months ago | 16:57 |
| semitones | in the olden times, that xubuntu was slower than ubuntu. Is this still the case? | 16:57 |
| semitones | Cheri703, hey cool!!! | 16:57 |
| Cheri703 | I've found it the same or faster | 16:57 |
| bazhang | if its really slow then lubuntu would be a better fit semitones | 16:57 |
| semitones | What would be really cool is if I could install both lubuntu and xubuntu, and try them out. | 16:58 |
| Cheri703 | partitions? | 16:58 |
| semitones | but I don't know a good way of removing the DE cleanly | 16:58 |
| semitones | Cheri703, not a bad idea :D | 16:58 |
| semitones | i think i'll try that | 16:58 |
| bazhang | !purexfce | 16:58 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 16:58 |
| Cheri703 | bazhang: that so does not work | 16:58 |
| Cheri703 | at least it NEVER has for me | 16:59 |
| bazhang | or purelxde | 16:59 |
| bazhang | Cheri703, thats odd it works just fine here | 16:59 |
| semitones | bazhang, thanks | 16:59 |
| Cheri703 | semitones: on my primary computer I always do upgrades/switches on separate partitions, I can move stuff over at my leisure, and if it freaks out? I just boot back to the other one :) | 16:59 |
| semitones | Cheri703, that's cool -- I used to try keeping my /home separate, and just migrating it over to brand new installs, | 17:00 |
| semitones | but I never was very comfortable with the permissions transferring over | 17:00 |
| semitones | i don't think I knew enough to do it right :p | 17:00 |
| Cheri703 | I don't bother with that, I have symlinks to my dropbox (formerly ubuntu one til it ate stuff) and then it will all sync to one spot and everything can see it. :) | 17:00 |
| Cheri703 | only on things that won't poop themselves due to new versions though | 17:01 |
| Cheri703 | stuff like tomboy, my mouse config, etc | 17:01 |
| n-iCe | hi | 17:05 |
| lderan | hi | 17:14 |
| drc | Quick Question: What happens if, after using the Additional Drivers on 12.04 to install the Nvidia driver (iirc 310.14), one wanted to install a later driver (say 310.44 from the nvidia website, which installs and runs perfectly on Slackware, Salix and Debian) ? | 17:31 |
| fowlslegs | Hello people :-) Would any of you be so kind as to help me with a problem or point me in the right direction fro researching it more? I need to edit my BIOS. | 17:48 |
| bazhang | ##hardware | 17:48 |
| drc | fowlslegs: Like bazhang said, there are better places to ask about this (it's really depending on your hardware), but you might ask the question based on whether you actually need to edit the BIOS or just change some settings. | 17:50 |
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| fowlslegs | thanks | 17:58 |
| xubuntu336 | hi | 19:46 |
| xubuntu336 | i have a problem with a card video Model kmc 4400r | 19:47 |
| holstein | xubuntu336: feel free and elaborate.. what problem... etc | 19:48 |
| xubuntu336 | how do I make it work? | 19:48 |
| holstein | xubuntu336: the vesa driver should work with any device... | 19:49 |
| holstein | !nomodeset | 19:49 |
| ubottu | A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter | 19:49 |
| xubuntu336 | ok.. i see the link.. | 19:50 |
| holstein | !ati | xubuntu336 check this for installing proprietary graphics drivers | 19:51 |
| ubottu | xubuntu336 check this for installing proprietary graphics drivers: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 19:51 |
| xubuntu336 | ok... if i send this command "xawtv-device / dev/video1" | 19:53 |
| xubuntu336 | WARNING: No DGA direct video mode for this display. WARNING: couldn't find framebuffer base address, try manual configuration ("v4l-conf -a <addr>") v4l2: WARNING: framebuffer base address mismatch v4l2: me=(nil) v4l=(nil) Alsa devices: cap: (null) (/dev/video1), out: default | 19:54 |
| xubuntu336 | i have this output | 19:54 |
| holstein | xubuntu336: i would try booting a live CD with the nomodeset option.. then, i would try other drivers.. then i would try a custom xorg.conf file | 19:55 |
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| SonikkuAmerica | Running 12.04 LTS in VBox (mainly because I don't wanna have to mess with partitioning or reinstall my current configuration), is it better to install the Guest Additions in "Additional Drivers" or through the VBoxGuestAdditions.iso in the Extension Pack? | 21:08 |
| n-iCe | hi | 21:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | hi | 21:09 |
| holstein | SonikkuAmerica: i would try the ones in the repos first probably.. really shoudnt matter or be a "better" | 21:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The ones in Additional Drivers then? | 21:09 |
| n-iCe | when is 13.04 realesed? | 21:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | n-iCe: 2013.04.25 (discuss it in #ubuntu+1) | 21:10 |
| n-iCe | 25 | 21:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Yep, the 25th | 21:11 |
| SonikkuAmerica | 11 days | 21:11 |
| holstein | SonikkuAmerica: the "additional drivers" is the name of the package.. i would try installing them from the ubuntu repos in the guest, but the other way is fine as well | 21:11 |
| sudoair | hey, i have this issue where i can't connect to the internet via ethernet on my 64 bit installation of xubuntu, ubuntu, or mint | 21:23 |
| sudoair | but it works on windows 8 64bit | 21:23 |
| sudoair | and it also works on 32bit installations of xubuntu | 21:23 |
| holstein | sudoair: why not just use the 32bit version? | 21:25 |
| holstein | are you sure its not different releases as well? like 32bit 12.04 vs 64bit 12.10? | 21:25 |
| holstein | sudoair: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. and mint is likely using the same kernel | 21:26 |
| sudoair | thats a good point | 21:27 |
| sudoair | maybe i'll try linux mint debian | 21:27 |
| David-A | sudoair: do you have ISP or router that wont issue a dynamic ip-address until a certain time has passed? | 21:37 |
| David-A | sudoair: (in case you are dual booting) | 21:37 |
| rusman_y | hi | 23:35 |
| rusman_y | are there unity in xubuntu 12? | 23:36 |
| knome | xubuntu never used unity. | 23:36 |
| rusman_y | oh good | 23:36 |
| knome | and there's no "xubuntu 12" either, only 12.04 or 12.10. | 23:36 |
| rusman_y | is xfce the same as mate? | 23:39 |
| knome | no. | 23:39 |
| rusman_y | knome whichever is more lightweight xfce or mate how do you think? | 23:41 |
| knome | i haven't used mate | 23:41 |
| rusman_y | or gnome2? | 23:42 |
| knome | xfce should be ligther, but it also depends on the applications you are running | 23:42 |
| knome | *lighter | 23:42 |
| rusman_y | thanks | 23:43 |
| rusman_y | i just wondering install xubuntu or mint(mate) | 23:44 |
| rusman_y | can not make choice | 23:45 |
| knome | well you're on the xubuntu channel now... guess what we're recommending? | 23:45 |
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