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jibelgood morning06:45
didrockssalut jibel, bon week-end?06:47
jibelsalut didrocks , très bon week-end. Enfin l'été, on a pu faire un peu de voile et toi ?06:47
didrocksjibel: pareil, 2 jours magnifiques, pas mal de ballades à l'extérieur :)06:48
Laneymorning08:00
seb128hey desktopers08:00
seb128Laney, hey, had a good W.E ?08:00
Laneyhey seb128, not too bad thanks - mainly did a lot of riding :-)08:01
Laneyyou?08:01
seb128quite good, thanks08:01
seb128the weather was really nice this W.E, enjoyed being outside08:01
Laneyyes it was, was nice08:02
Laneyhopefully this is spring finally08:02
chrisccoulsongood morning08:05
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, Laney08:06
darkxstseb128, are there plans to use the normal region dialog or are just going to stick with the language selector08:06
seb128chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?08:06
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, good thanks08:06
darkxstseb128, as in next cycle with 3.808:06
chrisccoulsonhow about you?08:06
seb128darkxst, there are been plan to use the region dialog for like 5 cycles08:06
chrisccoulsoni managed to finally get my car washed this weekend!08:06
seb128but it's quite some work and there is always other priorities08:07
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks08:07
seb128chrisccoulson, I should wash my car as well, I was thinking about it yesterday but just got lazy :p08:07
* didrocks is happy to have no car to wash :)08:08
Laneypfft, cars08:08
Laneyone of my bikes got a flat this weekend though :p08:08
mlankhorstpfft bikes08:08
didrocksLaney: pfff, your *own* bikes ;)08:08
chrisccoulsonseb128, we actually had rain showers for most of the day, so it was quite difficult to wash ;)08:08
* mlankhorst was on a horsiee08:09
LaneyALERT! MLANKHORST IS NOT DUTCH!08:09
mlankhorstnah, I'm seriously considering biking 19 km to get to those lessons :P08:09
mlankhorstinstead of taking a car08:09
darkxstseb128, any ideas on how to deal with installing languages?08:10
BigWhaleGreetings.08:10
mlankhorstas long as the wind isn't strong doing 19 km both ways should be doable08:11
seb128darkxst, in the region capplet? logic need to be added there, it's not done yet which is one of the reasons why we didn't change08:11
BigWhaleI have a suggestion for Unity Next ... We need a key-combo that will fire 4 terminals and tile them on screen in each corner... SUPER-CTRL-G for God Mode or something like that... :>08:12
mlankhorstgoedendag laney08:13
LaneyO_O08:14
* mlankhorst grins08:15
darkxstseb128, yes in the region capplet08:18
darkxstmaybe I could look into it, but I have no idea how to install packages from C08:19
seb128using the packagekit api08:20
darkxstoh right, I though that was missing on ubuntu08:21
seb128it's not08:24
seb128we use aptd but it implements compatible interfaces08:24
darkxstseb128, ok08:27
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xclaesseseb128, Saturday I made some video call attemps on my mother's computer and I had some empathy-call crashes. Apport probably sent them to launchpad, but how could I see them now?08:37
darkxstseb128, should I merge this into the other glxinfo patch or keep as a seperate patch? https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=dfe066cdac94acb44539fc37c5912ac764f7f8c3&h=gnome-3-808:37
darkxst(for 3.6)08:38
seb128darkxst, you can merge it in the same patch08:41
seb128xclaesse, let me look08:41
xclaessewtf unity... it start poping notification with "merry christmas" and "happy birthday"08:53
xclaessemonths old messages from facebook08:53
xclaesseand no notification on fb page08:53
seb128likely a bug with "friends", check with kenvandine when he's online08:54
Laneyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/friends/+bug/107986508:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 1079865 in Friends "limit notifications at statup." [Medium,Fix committed]08:54
xclaesseit decided to replay 6months of fb events it seems08:54
darkxstseb128, can't actually build it here, it fails with an unrelated issue, probably due to ppa's and what not09:00
darkxstbut have added a debdiff to bug 1168612, pretty confident that will work well09:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1168612 in gnome-control-center "display graphics info for nvidia blob" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116861209:01
seb128xclaesse, your empathy-call segfaults, on what ubuntu version was that?09:13
xclaesseseb128, raring09:13
seb128it's the empathy-call binary that segfaulted?09:13
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xclaesseseb128, yes empathy-call09:46
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ritz__seb128 morning10:23
seb128ritz__, hey10:24
Laneyheh, receiving a new message on facebook appears to have kicked friends into spamming me10:25
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seb128kenvandine, mterry, cyphermox: hey western desktopers ;-) had a good w.e ?13:11
mterryseb128, yeah, still recovering  :)13:11
kenvandineyup13:11
kenvandineand you?13:11
seb128mterry, recovering from all the parties ? ;-)13:11
seb128kenvandine, excellent, thanks, spring is finally there13:11
mterryseb128, it was a friend's bachelor party13:11
seb128though I've a start of a cold :/13:11
seb128mterry, I see ;-)13:12
kenvandinei'm recovering from yard work... ran a chipper all day yesterday clearing out part of my backyard...13:12
kenvandinei am hurting today!13:12
kenvandinemterry, cool!13:12
seb128hehe13:12
kenvandineseb128, bummer13:12
seb128kenvandine, better now that for the rally13:12
seb128but I hope to get over it before it gets too strong13:12
seb128I've been getting some extra sleep and orange juice and vitamines ;-)13:13
kenvandinegood13:13
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kenvandinedon't bring it to the sprint :)13:13
seb128yeah13:15
seb128mterry, will we have an unity landing today? I was reading about the nice performance work from Trevinho and I hope that makes it to raring ;-)13:16
seb128cyphermox, libcolumbus seems set up to land the wrong serie, trunk got uploaded instead of 0.4 today13:16
mterryseb128, I was just looking into that myself.  let me get back to you13:16
kenvandinemterry, i hope so... it has my fix for unity-scope-gdrive :)13:17
seb128mterry, thanks13:18
mterryseb128, kenvandine: looks like the last test failure might be a fluke; rerunning tests to see13:18
seb128mterry, it seems like hud ran into issues on nvidia from what I saw13:18
seb128which happens sometimes13:19
mterryseb128, intel was actually the blocker this time13:19
seb128not sure why, if that's an hud bug?13:19
seb128was it?13:19
mterryhad 20 failures13:19
mterryseb128, I believe 16 is the limit13:19
seb128mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Raring/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-raring-2.2check/18/console13:19
seb128says "Tests for card 'nvidia' failed!"13:19
seb128mterry, where do you see the intel issue?13:20
seb128mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/64/testReport/ has 9 failures on inel13:20
seb128intel13:20
seb12817 on nvidia13:20
* seb128 still having an hard time to navigate jenkins :/13:20
mterryseb128, hmm, I was looking at http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/67/13:20
seb128mterry, that one is a run from "cu2d-100scopes-experimental-2.2check "13:21
seb128according to the summary13:21
mterryseb128, yup, I see that now  :(  thanks13:21
seb128yw13:21
seb128the "jobs consolidation" make things a bit harder to browse13:22
seb128you have all the runs listed mixed13:22
mterryyah, easy for me to get confused13:22
seb128I set my "jenkins" startpage to http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Raring/view/Unity/13:22
seb128(I'm just interested in raring atm)13:23
seb128mterry, let's see how the retry goes in any case ;-)13:23
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mterryseb128, yeah, we're only 1 over the failure limit.  if some of these are flaky tests, we might be OK in the rerun.  I've asked sil2100 about the failures anyway13:25
seb128mterry, ok, let's see, I would just have forced the publishing :p13:25
mterryseb128, tsk!13:26
seb128mterry, for one little test... :p13:26
* seb128 hides in shame13:26
seb128;-)13:26
mterry:)13:26
didrocksmterry: btw, for the job consolidation, as seb128 noticed, always start from the -check console job to know which runs corresponds to what13:43
mterrydidrocks, yeah13:49
mterryI got lazy13:49
mterry:)13:49
didrocksmterry: well, I really think we'll need soon a dashboard13:49
cyphermoxseb128: ugh.13:49
didrocksthe jenkins UI itself is not enough13:49
cyphermoxseb128: ok, libcolumbus was already migrated but the rev isn't on the jenkins server13:54
cyphermoxdah, I completely forgot to pull this stuff and rebuild the branches :/13:55
cyphermoxdidrocks: ^ going to fix this now13:55
didrockscyphermox: thanks!13:55
cyphermoxseb128: you had the libcolumbus package rejected?13:55
LaneyI rejected it after spotting the error13:56
seb128cyphermox, what Laney said13:56
cyphermoxLaney: thanks13:57
Laneynp13:57
Laneycyphermox: is it that cu2d is releasing from the wrong branch?13:57
cyphermoxyeah, the code was changed in the config, but not applied to the jenkins jobs13:58
Laneyah13:58
cyphermoxtotally my fault, fginther proposed the changes and I didn't clue in that it would need an update13:58
LaneyI thought while looking at that that it would be nice to have a list of all the projects under cu2d and the branch they're releasing from13:58
Laneyso you know what to propose to for distro at any point13:59
Laneyeither that or make sure that all of the branches are done at feature freeze time13:59
cyphermoxyeah13:59
cyphermoxperhaps we could fix the automatic upload message to say where it comes from13:59
didrocksLaney: lp:cupstream2distro-config13:59
cyphermox(e.g. the branch)13:59
didrocksLaney: you have stacks/<release>/<stackname>14:00
didrocksLaney: everything is described here14:00
Laneydidrocks: yeah, so parsing that to a webpage14:00
didrocksLaney: you have that in jenkins14:00
didrocksLaney: the pages like the one seb128 showed below ^14:00
cyphermoxdidrocks: any reason (weirdly) how the cupstream2distro-config branch on jenkisn should be left behind? just making sure :)14:00
seb128cyphermox, btw, are we aiming at getting https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/libcolumbus/lessfuzz-test/+merge/158595 in raring?14:00
didrockscyphermox: left behind?14:01
didrockscyphermox: you have to deploy the jenkins jobs14:01
cyphermoxit's at rev 184 ;)14:01
cyphermoxwe're at 19514:01
cyphermoxjust making sure I can update it too14:01
didrockscyphermox: no reason to leave it behind :)14:01
cyphermoxack14:01
cyphermoxseb128: sure, why not14:01
didrockscyphermox: but TBH, it just needs to be refreshed when we change stack dependencies14:01
cyphermoxok14:01
cyphermoxmight as well pull it anyway...14:02
seb128cyphermox, seems there is an unity-lens-applications side as well (and should be mp against trunk as well)14:02
seb128cyphermox, thanks14:02
cyphermoxmterry: are you reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/unity-lens-applications/lessfuzz-test ?14:04
mterrycyphermox, not yet14:04
cyphermox(goes with the libcolumbus one i'm reviewing)14:04
mterrycyphermox, I don't generally look at those reviews14:04
cyphermoxoh14:04
cyphermoxok I'll do it14:05
mterrycyphermox, I didn't mean to sound like I didn't want to do it at all, just saying such reviews aren't normally on my radar14:05
cyphermoxmterry: I understood, I just parsed it as "unity" :)14:06
cyphermoxbut I mean, it's all the same bug really so I'll review it too14:06
cyphermoxdidrocks: btw, unity-lens-application doesn't have a feature branch14:07
mterrycyphermox, ok.  I will say one thing, that maybe continuing to search packagename or execname would still be useful/expected-by-users?14:07
didrockscyphermox: check with mterry and bregma who are in charge of unity :)14:07
didrockscyphermox: but if you are getting it in ula14:08
didrockscyphermox: it's good, it will be both raring and s, without having 2MP14:08
didrockswhat you will need in libcolumbus to not loose it when upgrading14:08
cyphermoxmterry: where do you see that?14:08
cyphermoxseems to me like just style changes except for that setSubstringmode()14:09
mterrycyphermox, in the lessfuzz-test merge, they comment out a block of code14:09
mterrycyphermox, they also add /* and */14:09
cyphermoxright, I see now14:10
mterrycyphermox, I can understand summary being confusing for users14:10
cyphermoxI agree with keeping the match on exec14:10
mterrycyphermox, but I'm just thinking of things like deja-dup, which only expose the string "Backup" but users might search for deja14:11
mterrycyphermox, cool14:11
cyphermoxin french, you're likely to type the exec name to get to an app, whose name might be translated and quite different14:11
cyphermoxor, our usual test case for fuzzy-matching being 'gcal' ;)14:12
cyphermoxI wonder if these commented out parts aren't "experimentation" rather than actual expected code changed14:14
seb128desrt, do you know when are the GUADEC core days?14:23
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* Laney wrote a quick script to generate http://people.canonical.com/~laney/cu2d-branches.txt14:32
* Laney goes for a very late lunch(!)14:33
seb128Laney, enjoy14:34
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chrisccoulsonpitti, ah, i see you got a response from the "sudo is awesome" troll. apparently you don't understand the issues ;)15:31
chrisccoulsonlol15:31
didrocksLaney: your script is a little bit buggy :)15:38
Laneyyeah?15:38
didrocksLaney: I don't see any of the lenses15:39
didrockscampo is definitively not part of what we land15:39
Laneyyeah I didn't know how to tell where they were15:39
didrocksas signon and so on15:39
Laneyit just gets the branch from the config file15:39
didrocksthere is even not unity15:39
didrocksLaney: if there is no target_branch parameter, it's trunk (lp:project_name)15:40
Laneyah daily_release : False I can certainly check that one15:40
Laneyokies15:40
didrocksyep15:41
Laneydidrocks: try that?15:48
didrocksLaney: way better after a quick look :)15:49
didrocksLaney: this is raring only, isn't it?15:49
didrocksnot head15:49
Laneyyes15:49
Laneyit could be extended to head if that's useful15:51
Laneybut I was mainly interested in which branch I need to look in for raring15:51
didrocksLaney: Vcs-bzr should be up to date FYI15:57
Laneyyeah but I can't get to that from the queue :(15:58
didrockscyphermox: I changed the tasks for https://bugs.launchpad.net/libcolumbus/+bug/1159812 FYI15:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 1159812 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "search in application lens is innacurate" [Medium,Confirmed]15:58
didrocksit was affecting unity15:58
didrocksnot ula or libcolumbus15:58
cyphermoxok15:58
cyphermoxah15:58
seb128mterry, jenkins hates us16:16
seb128nvidia is green this time16:16
seb128but intel is all fail16:16
seb128and ati is still running so I guess it will be like intel16:16
seb128sil2100, ^16:17
seb128http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/label=autopilot-intel/16:17
mterryseb128, :16:18
mterry:( I mean16:18
mterryseb128, sil2100: perma-link http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/68/16:19
mterryboth ati and intel are blown up16:20
Laneyprobably better to give public links ;-)16:21
Laneyhttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/PS/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/68/16:21
seb128Laney, yeah, sorry16:22
seb128mterry, should we just kick another retry?16:25
mterryseb128, uh, I'm not certain why the two machines failed...16:26
mterryseb128, I guess retry and if same thing happens, then we escalate16:26
seb128wfm16:26
mterryseb128, restarted16:27
seb128mterry, thanks16:27
seb128jbicha, hey17:00
jbichaseb128: hi17:00
seb128jbicha, did you include the fix for bug #1124356 in your gnome-sudoku upload?17:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1124356 in GNOME Games "gnome-sudoku crashed with NotImplementedError in __init__(): Setting properties of type 'GdkEventMask' is not implemented" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112435617:01
jasoncwarner__hey dpm and mhall119, how goes the developer.ubuntu.com tutorial update to match the new SDK?17:02
jbichaseb128: uh, no, that hasn't been merged upstream yet17:03
seb128jbicha, :-(17:03
seb128jbicha, does sudoku even start for you?17:03
dpmjasoncwarner__, we'll be trying to get the update in today17:03
jasoncwarner__dpm great, thanks!17:04
jbichaseb128: um no :(17:04
jbichait used to though17:04
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seb128jbicha, can you get the fix in? it was in the queue bug got rejected in favor of your upload17:04
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jbichaseb128: yes17:08
seb128jbicha, thanks17:08
jbichaI don't think upstream splitting the games has been good for them being maintained :(17:09
seb128not really no :/17:10
jbichaI have to basically email or ping somebody directly to get patches reviewed17:11
LaneyThis is your opportunity to become a gnome maintainer!17:14
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seb128mterry, those buggy runs have weird network/dbus issues17:18
seb128mterry, e.g http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/label=autopilot-intel/68/artifact/results/testresults/unity-result.xml17:18
seb128it has some "13:54:07.455 ERROR proxies:410 - Introspect error on :1.23:/com/canonical/Unity/Debug: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."17:19
seb128and some "Cannot connect to destination (ecx.images-amazon.com)"17:19
tiheumHi all documentation team members! We have a last-minute request form Mark concerning the BFB icon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1169238. The UI freeze exception has not been accepted yet but it could impact the Ubuntu documentation. Is there anybody to contact in your team  in a such case?17:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1169238 in Unity "[UIFe] BFB icon swirl should run clockwise not anti-clockwise" [Undecided,Triaged]17:20
dpmjasoncwarner, actually, it'll take more time than expected. I'll get it done tomorrow first thing in the morning (re: the SDK tutorial update)17:21
jbichatiheum: try pinging #ubuntu-doc17:21
jasoncwarnerthanks dpm17:21
tiheumjbicha: thanks17:24
* didrocks waves good evening17:50
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seb128mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/69/18:58
seb128mterry, \o/ \o/ \o/18:58
seb128mterry, ;-)18:58
seb128mterry, seems it's up to you to hack my packaging diffs to use dh-translations19:00
mterryseb128, published19:04
mterryseb128, thanks!19:04
* seb128 hugs mterry19:04
pittichrisccoulson: yeah, I promise I'll read what polkit and sudo do!19:57
seb128oh, a pitti19:59
pittibonsoir seb128, ça va?19:59
pittiseb128: I'm just here for the TB meeting19:59
seb128pitti, salut, oui et toi ?19:59
seb128pitti, bon anniversaire (avec un jour de retard)19:59
seb128pitti, ça va ? tu étais en vacances aujourd'hui ?19:59
pittiseb128: merci beaucoup !20:01
pittiseb128: oui, Netti et moi avons été à Stuttgart20:01
pittiseb128: we watched the musical "Mamma Mia!" and did some sightseeing20:01
pittiand enjoyed the marvellous spring weather20:02
seb128nice20:02
seb128it's spring like here as well20:02
seb128and I managed to get a cold for it :-(20:02
pittiurgh, poor you20:02
pittiit's 25 degrees here20:02
pittiseb128: better go to bed early?20:02
seb128pitti, yeah, I will go soon, I did get some extra sleep yesterday and somewhat managing to fight the cold half back so far20:06
seb128it's warm in there as well20:06
pittiseb128: then get well soon!20:08
seb128pitti, thanks ;-)20:08
pittibonne nuit tout le monde !20:10
pittiseb128: comment dis-tu "get well soon" à français ?20:12
seb128pitti, "soigne-toi bien" I would say20:13
pittiapparemment, google ne le sais pas20:13
pitti"sait"20:13
seb128which is more of "take care"20:13
seb128or "get better soon" if you want to literal20:13
seb128-soon20:14
pittisoigner == to care, selon leo20:14
pittiseb128: so, "Gute Besserung!"20:15
* pitti waves good night20:15
seb128pitti, night ;-)20:15
robert_ancellmterry, should that slot code be pushed to the stable 1.6 branch? Is this a new problem?21:01
robert_ancellLaney, hey, do you need any help/info for the logind support in LightDM? Did you see the branch from bug 1152185?21:47
ubot2Launchpad bug 1152185 in Light Display Manager "Can't shut down the computer from the greeter using systemd-logind" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115218521:47
Laneyrobert_ancell: I did - do you think they should go together or can be separate?21:48
LaneyI'll have a look at the guy's branch tomorrow21:48
robert_ancellLaney, it will have to merge with the tests in the first branch, the names are slightly different but the layout is much the same21:49
* Laney nods21:51
Laneywill check on it tomorrow21:52

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