[06:45] <jibel> good morning
[06:47] <didrocks> salut jibel, bon week-end?
[06:47] <jibel> salut didrocks , très bon week-end. Enfin l'été, on a pu faire un peu de voile et toi ?
[06:48] <didrocks> jibel: pareil, 2 jours magnifiques, pas mal de ballades à l'extérieur :)
[08:00] <Laney> morning
[08:00] <seb128> hey desktopers
[08:00] <seb128> Laney, hey, had a good W.E ?
[08:01] <Laney> hey seb128, not too bad thanks - mainly did a lot of riding :-)
[08:01] <Laney> you?
[08:01] <seb128> quite good, thanks
[08:01] <seb128> the weather was really nice this W.E, enjoyed being outside
[08:02] <Laney> yes it was, was nice
[08:02] <Laney> hopefully this is spring finally
[08:05] <chrisccoulson> good morning
[08:06] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128, Laney
[08:06] <darkxst> seb128, are there plans to use the normal region dialog or are just going to stick with the language selector
[08:06] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[08:06] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, good thanks
[08:06] <darkxst> seb128, as in next cycle with 3.8
[08:06] <chrisccoulson> how about you?
[08:06] <seb128> darkxst, there are been plan to use the region dialog for like 5 cycles
[08:06] <chrisccoulson> i managed to finally get my car washed this weekend!
[08:07] <seb128> but it's quite some work and there is always other priorities
[08:07] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks
[08:07] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I should wash my car as well, I was thinking about it yesterday but just got lazy :p
[08:08]  * didrocks is happy to have no car to wash :)
[08:08] <Laney> pfft, cars
[08:08] <Laney> one of my bikes got a flat this weekend though :p
[08:08] <mlankhorst> pfft bikes
[08:08] <didrocks> Laney: pfff, your *own* bikes ;)
[08:08] <chrisccoulson> seb128, we actually had rain showers for most of the day, so it was quite difficult to wash ;)
[08:09]  * mlankhorst was on a horsiee
[08:09] <Laney> ALERT! MLANKHORST IS NOT DUTCH!
[08:09] <mlankhorst> nah, I'm seriously considering biking 19 km to get to those lessons :P
[08:09] <mlankhorst> instead of taking a car
[08:10] <darkxst> seb128, any ideas on how to deal with installing languages?
[08:10] <BigWhale> Greetings.
[08:11] <mlankhorst> as long as the wind isn't strong doing 19 km both ways should be doable
[08:11] <seb128> darkxst, in the region capplet? logic need to be added there, it's not done yet which is one of the reasons why we didn't change
[08:12] <BigWhale> I have a suggestion for Unity Next ... We need a key-combo that will fire 4 terminals and tile them on screen in each corner... SUPER-CTRL-G for God Mode or something like that... :>
[08:13] <mlankhorst> goedendag laney
[08:14] <Laney> O_O
[08:15]  * mlankhorst grins
[08:18] <darkxst> seb128, yes in the region capplet
[08:19] <darkxst> maybe I could look into it, but I have no idea how to install packages from C
[08:20] <seb128> using the packagekit api
[08:21] <darkxst> oh right, I though that was missing on ubuntu
[08:24] <seb128> it's not
[08:24] <seb128> we use aptd but it implements compatible interfaces
[08:27] <darkxst> seb128, ok
[08:37] <xclaesse> seb128, Saturday I made some video call attemps on my mother's computer and I had some empathy-call crashes. Apport probably sent them to launchpad, but how could I see them now?
[08:37] <darkxst> seb128, should I merge this into the other glxinfo patch or keep as a seperate patch? https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=dfe066cdac94acb44539fc37c5912ac764f7f8c3&h=gnome-3-8
[08:38] <darkxst> (for 3.6)
[08:41] <seb128> darkxst, you can merge it in the same patch
[08:41] <seb128> xclaesse, let me look
[08:53] <xclaesse> wtf unity... it start poping notification with "merry christmas" and "happy birthday"
[08:53] <xclaesse> months old messages from facebook
[08:53] <xclaesse> and no notification on fb page
[08:54] <seb128> likely a bug with "friends", check with kenvandine when he's online
[08:54] <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/friends/+bug/1079865
[08:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079865 in Friends "limit notifications at statup." [Medium,Fix committed]
[08:54] <xclaesse> it decided to replay 6months of fb events it seems
[09:00] <darkxst> seb128, can't actually build it here, it fails with an unrelated issue, probably due to ppa's and what not
[09:01] <darkxst> but have added a debdiff to bug 1168612, pretty confident that will work well
[09:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1168612 in gnome-control-center "display graphics info for nvidia blob" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1168612
[09:13] <seb128> xclaesse, your empathy-call segfaults, on what ubuntu version was that?
[09:13] <xclaesse> seb128, raring
[09:13] <seb128> it's the empathy-call binary that segfaulted?
[09:46] <xclaesse> seb128, yes empathy-call
[10:23] <ritz__> seb128 morning
[10:24] <seb128> ritz__, hey
[10:25] <Laney> heh, receiving a new message on facebook appears to have kicked friends into spamming me
[13:11] <seb128> kenvandine, mterry, cyphermox: hey western desktopers ;-) had a good w.e ?
[13:11] <mterry> seb128, yeah, still recovering  :)
[13:11] <kenvandine> yup
[13:11] <kenvandine> and you?
[13:11] <seb128> mterry, recovering from all the parties ? ;-)
[13:11] <seb128> kenvandine, excellent, thanks, spring is finally there
[13:11] <mterry> seb128, it was a friend's bachelor party
[13:11] <seb128> though I've a start of a cold :/
[13:12] <seb128> mterry, I see ;-)
[13:12] <kenvandine> i'm recovering from yard work... ran a chipper all day yesterday clearing out part of my backyard...
[13:12] <kenvandine> i am hurting today!
[13:12] <kenvandine> mterry, cool!
[13:12] <seb128> hehe
[13:12] <kenvandine> seb128, bummer
[13:12] <seb128> kenvandine, better now that for the rally
[13:12] <seb128> but I hope to get over it before it gets too strong
[13:13] <seb128> I've been getting some extra sleep and orange juice and vitamines ;-)
[13:13] <kenvandine> good
[13:13] <kenvandine> don't bring it to the sprint :)
[13:15] <seb128> yeah
[13:16] <seb128> mterry, will we have an unity landing today? I was reading about the nice performance work from Trevinho and I hope that makes it to raring ;-)
[13:16] <seb128> cyphermox, libcolumbus seems set up to land the wrong serie, trunk got uploaded instead of 0.4 today
[13:16] <mterry> seb128, I was just looking into that myself.  let me get back to you
[13:17] <kenvandine> mterry, i hope so... it has my fix for unity-scope-gdrive :)
[13:18] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[13:18] <mterry> seb128, kenvandine: looks like the last test failure might be a fluke; rerunning tests to see
[13:18] <seb128> mterry, it seems like hud ran into issues on nvidia from what I saw
[13:19] <seb128> which happens sometimes
[13:19] <mterry> seb128, intel was actually the blocker this time
[13:19] <seb128> not sure why, if that's an hud bug?
[13:19] <seb128> was it?
[13:19] <mterry> had 20 failures
[13:19] <mterry> seb128, I believe 16 is the limit
[13:19] <seb128> mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Raring/view/Unity/job/cu2d-unity-raring-2.2check/18/console
[13:19] <seb128> says "Tests for card 'nvidia' failed!"
[13:20] <seb128> mterry, where do you see the intel issue?
[13:20] <seb128> mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/64/testReport/ has 9 failures on inel
[13:20] <seb128> intel
[13:20] <seb128> 17 on nvidia
[13:20]  * seb128 still having an hard time to navigate jenkins :/
[13:20] <mterry> seb128, hmm, I was looking at http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/67/
[13:21] <seb128> mterry, that one is a run from "cu2d-100scopes-experimental-2.2check "
[13:21] <seb128> according to the summary
[13:21] <mterry> seb128, yup, I see that now  :(  thanks
[13:21] <seb128> yw
[13:22] <seb128> the "jobs consolidation" make things a bit harder to browse
[13:22] <seb128> you have all the runs listed mixed
[13:22] <mterry> yah, easy for me to get confused
[13:22] <seb128> I set my "jenkins" startpage to http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Raring/view/Unity/
[13:23] <seb128> (I'm just interested in raring atm)
[13:23] <seb128> mterry, let's see how the retry goes in any case ;-)
[13:25] <mterry> seb128, yeah, we're only 1 over the failure limit.  if some of these are flaky tests, we might be OK in the rerun.  I've asked sil2100 about the failures anyway
[13:25] <seb128> mterry, ok, let's see, I would just have forced the publishing :p
[13:26] <mterry> seb128, tsk!
[13:26] <seb128> mterry, for one little test... :p
[13:26]  * seb128 hides in shame
[13:26] <seb128> ;-)
[13:26] <mterry> :)
[13:43] <didrocks> mterry: btw, for the job consolidation, as seb128 noticed, always start from the -check console job to know which runs corresponds to what
[13:49] <mterry> didrocks, yeah
[13:49] <mterry> I got lazy
[13:49] <mterry> :)
[13:49] <didrocks> mterry: well, I really think we'll need soon a dashboard
[13:49] <cyphermox> seb128: ugh.
[13:49] <didrocks> the jenkins UI itself is not enough
[13:54] <cyphermox> seb128: ok, libcolumbus was already migrated but the rev isn't on the jenkins server
[13:55] <cyphermox> dah, I completely forgot to pull this stuff and rebuild the branches :/
[13:55] <cyphermox> didrocks: ^ going to fix this now
[13:55] <didrocks> cyphermox: thanks!
[13:55] <cyphermox> seb128: you had the libcolumbus package rejected?
[13:56] <Laney> I rejected it after spotting the error
[13:56] <seb128> cyphermox, what Laney said
[13:57] <cyphermox> Laney: thanks
[13:57] <Laney> np
[13:57] <Laney> cyphermox: is it that cu2d is releasing from the wrong branch?
[13:58] <cyphermox> yeah, the code was changed in the config, but not applied to the jenkins jobs
[13:58] <Laney> ah
[13:58] <cyphermox> totally my fault, fginther proposed the changes and I didn't clue in that it would need an update
[13:58] <Laney> I thought while looking at that that it would be nice to have a list of all the projects under cu2d and the branch they're releasing from
[13:59] <Laney> so you know what to propose to for distro at any point
[13:59] <Laney> either that or make sure that all of the branches are done at feature freeze time
[13:59] <cyphermox> yeah
[13:59] <cyphermox> perhaps we could fix the automatic upload message to say where it comes from
[13:59] <didrocks> Laney: lp:cupstream2distro-config
[13:59] <cyphermox> (e.g. the branch)
[14:00] <didrocks> Laney: you have stacks/<release>/<stackname>
[14:00] <didrocks> Laney: everything is described here
[14:00] <Laney> didrocks: yeah, so parsing that to a webpage
[14:00] <didrocks> Laney: you have that in jenkins
[14:00] <didrocks> Laney: the pages like the one seb128 showed below ^
[14:00] <cyphermox> didrocks: any reason (weirdly) how the cupstream2distro-config branch on jenkisn should be left behind? just making sure :)
[14:00] <seb128> cyphermox, btw, are we aiming at getting https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/libcolumbus/lessfuzz-test/+merge/158595 in raring?
[14:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: left behind?
[14:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: you have to deploy the jenkins jobs
[14:01] <cyphermox> it's at rev 184 ;)
[14:01] <cyphermox> we're at 195
[14:01] <cyphermox> just making sure I can update it too
[14:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: no reason to leave it behind :)
[14:01] <cyphermox> ack
[14:01] <cyphermox> seb128: sure, why not
[14:01] <didrocks> cyphermox: but TBH, it just needs to be refreshed when we change stack dependencies
[14:01] <cyphermox> ok
[14:02] <cyphermox> might as well pull it anyway...
[14:02] <seb128> cyphermox, seems there is an unity-lens-applications side as well (and should be mp against trunk as well)
[14:02] <seb128> cyphermox, thanks
[14:04] <cyphermox> mterry: are you reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~jpakkane/unity-lens-applications/lessfuzz-test ?
[14:04] <mterry> cyphermox, not yet
[14:04] <cyphermox> (goes with the libcolumbus one i'm reviewing)
[14:04] <mterry> cyphermox, I don't generally look at those reviews
[14:04] <cyphermox> oh
[14:05] <cyphermox> ok I'll do it
[14:05] <mterry> cyphermox, I didn't mean to sound like I didn't want to do it at all, just saying such reviews aren't normally on my radar
[14:06] <cyphermox> mterry: I understood, I just parsed it as "unity" :)
[14:06] <cyphermox> but I mean, it's all the same bug really so I'll review it too
[14:07] <cyphermox> didrocks: btw, unity-lens-application doesn't have a feature branch
[14:07] <mterry> cyphermox, ok.  I will say one thing, that maybe continuing to search packagename or execname would still be useful/expected-by-users?
[14:07] <didrocks> cyphermox: check with mterry and bregma who are in charge of unity :)
[14:08] <didrocks> cyphermox: but if you are getting it in ula
[14:08] <didrocks> cyphermox: it's good, it will be both raring and s, without having 2MP
[14:08] <didrocks> what you will need in libcolumbus to not loose it when upgrading
[14:08] <cyphermox> mterry: where do you see that?
[14:09] <cyphermox> seems to me like just style changes except for that setSubstringmode()
[14:09] <mterry> cyphermox, in the lessfuzz-test merge, they comment out a block of code
[14:09] <mterry> cyphermox, they also add /* and */
[14:10] <cyphermox> right, I see now
[14:10] <mterry> cyphermox, I can understand summary being confusing for users
[14:10] <cyphermox> I agree with keeping the match on exec
[14:11] <mterry> cyphermox, but I'm just thinking of things like deja-dup, which only expose the string "Backup" but users might search for deja
[14:11] <mterry> cyphermox, cool
[14:11] <cyphermox> in french, you're likely to type the exec name to get to an app, whose name might be translated and quite different
[14:12] <cyphermox> or, our usual test case for fuzzy-matching being 'gcal' ;)
[14:14] <cyphermox> I wonder if these commented out parts aren't "experimentation" rather than actual expected code changed
[14:23] <seb128> desrt, do you know when are the GUADEC core days?
[14:32]  * Laney wrote a quick script to generate http://people.canonical.com/~laney/cu2d-branches.txt
[14:33]  * Laney goes for a very late lunch(!)
[14:34] <seb128> Laney, enjoy
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> pitti, ah, i see you got a response from the "sudo is awesome" troll. apparently you don't understand the issues ;)
[15:31] <chrisccoulson> lol
[15:38] <didrocks> Laney: your script is a little bit buggy :)
[15:38] <Laney> yeah?
[15:39] <didrocks> Laney: I don't see any of the lenses
[15:39] <didrocks> campo is definitively not part of what we land
[15:39] <Laney> yeah I didn't know how to tell where they were
[15:39] <didrocks> as signon and so on
[15:39] <Laney> it just gets the branch from the config file
[15:39] <didrocks> there is even not unity
[15:40] <didrocks> Laney: if there is no target_branch parameter, it's trunk (lp:project_name)
[15:40] <Laney> ah daily_release : False I can certainly check that one
[15:40] <Laney> okies
[15:41] <didrocks> yep
[15:48] <Laney> didrocks: try that?
[15:49] <didrocks> Laney: way better after a quick look :)
[15:49] <didrocks> Laney: this is raring only, isn't it?
[15:49] <didrocks> not head
[15:49] <Laney> yes
[15:51] <Laney> it could be extended to head if that's useful
[15:51] <Laney> but I was mainly interested in which branch I need to look in for raring
[15:57] <didrocks> Laney: Vcs-bzr should be up to date FYI
[15:58] <Laney> yeah but I can't get to that from the queue :(
[15:58] <didrocks> cyphermox: I changed the tasks for https://bugs.launchpad.net/libcolumbus/+bug/1159812 FYI
[15:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1159812 in unity-lens-applications (Ubuntu) "search in application lens is innacurate" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:58] <didrocks> it was affecting unity
[15:58] <didrocks> not ula or libcolumbus
[15:58] <cyphermox> ok
[15:58] <cyphermox> ah
[16:16] <seb128> mterry, jenkins hates us
[16:16] <seb128> nvidia is green this time
[16:16] <seb128> but intel is all fail
[16:16] <seb128> and ati is still running so I guess it will be like intel
[16:17] <seb128> sil2100, ^
[16:17] <seb128> http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/label=autopilot-intel/
[16:18] <mterry> seb128, :
[16:18] <mterry> :( I mean
[16:19] <mterry> seb128, sil2100: perma-link http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/68/
[16:20] <mterry> both ati and intel are blown up
[16:21] <Laney> probably better to give public links ;-)
[16:21] <Laney> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/PS/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/68/
[16:22] <seb128> Laney, yeah, sorry
[16:25] <seb128> mterry, should we just kick another retry?
[16:26] <mterry> seb128, uh, I'm not certain why the two machines failed...
[16:26] <mterry> seb128, I guess retry and if same thing happens, then we escalate
[16:26] <seb128> wfm
[16:27] <mterry> seb128, restarted
[16:27] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[17:00] <seb128> jbicha, hey
[17:00] <jbicha> seb128: hi
[17:01] <seb128> jbicha, did you include the fix for bug #1124356 in your gnome-sudoku upload?
[17:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1124356 in GNOME Games "gnome-sudoku crashed with NotImplementedError in __init__(): Setting properties of type 'GdkEventMask' is not implemented" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1124356
[17:02] <jasoncwarner__> hey dpm and mhall119, how goes the developer.ubuntu.com tutorial update to match the new SDK?
[17:03] <jbicha> seb128: uh, no, that hasn't been merged upstream yet
[17:03] <seb128> jbicha, :-(
[17:03] <seb128> jbicha, does sudoku even start for you?
[17:03] <dpm> jasoncwarner__, we'll be trying to get the update in today
[17:04] <jasoncwarner__> dpm great, thanks!
[17:04] <jbicha> seb128: um no :(
[17:04] <jbicha> it used to though
[17:04] <seb128> jbicha, can you get the fix in? it was in the queue bug got rejected in favor of your upload
[17:08] <jbicha> seb128: yes
[17:08] <seb128> jbicha, thanks
[17:09] <jbicha> I don't think upstream splitting the games has been good for them being maintained :(
[17:10] <seb128> not really no :/
[17:11] <jbicha> I have to basically email or ping somebody directly to get patches reviewed
[17:14] <Laney> This is your opportunity to become a gnome maintainer!
[17:18] <seb128> mterry, those buggy runs have weird network/dbus issues
[17:18] <seb128> mterry, e.g http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/label=autopilot-intel/68/artifact/results/testresults/unity-result.xml
[17:19] <seb128> it has some "13:54:07.455 ERROR proxies:410 - Introspect error on :1.23:/com/canonical/Unity/Debug: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[17:19] <seb128> and some "Cannot connect to destination (ecx.images-amazon.com)"
[17:20] <tiheum> Hi all documentation team members! We have a last-minute request form Mark concerning the BFB icon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1169238. The UI freeze exception has not been accepted yet but it could impact the Ubuntu documentation. Is there anybody to contact in your team  in a such case?
[17:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1169238 in Unity "[UIFe] BFB icon swirl should run clockwise not anti-clockwise" [Undecided,Triaged]
[17:21] <dpm> jasoncwarner, actually, it'll take more time than expected. I'll get it done tomorrow first thing in the morning (re: the SDK tutorial update)
[17:21] <jbicha> tiheum: try pinging #ubuntu-doc
[17:21] <jasoncwarner> thanks dpm
[17:24] <tiheum> jbicha: thanks
[17:50]  * didrocks waves good evening
[18:58] <seb128> mterry, http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/ps-generic-autopilot-release-testing/69/
[18:58] <seb128> mterry, \o/ \o/ \o/
[18:58] <seb128> mterry, ;-)
[19:00] <seb128> mterry, seems it's up to you to hack my packaging diffs to use dh-translations
[19:04] <mterry> seb128, published
[19:04] <mterry> seb128, thanks!
[19:04]  * seb128 hugs mterry
[19:57] <pitti> chrisccoulson: yeah, I promise I'll read what polkit and sudo do!
[19:59] <seb128> oh, a pitti
[19:59] <pitti> bonsoir seb128, ça va?
[19:59] <pitti> seb128: I'm just here for the TB meeting
[19:59] <seb128> pitti, salut, oui et toi ?
[19:59] <seb128> pitti, bon anniversaire (avec un jour de retard)
[19:59] <seb128> pitti, ça va ? tu étais en vacances aujourd'hui ?
[20:01] <pitti> seb128: merci beaucoup !
[20:01] <pitti> seb128: oui, Netti et moi avons été à Stuttgart
[20:01] <pitti> seb128: we watched the musical "Mamma Mia!" and did some sightseeing
[20:02] <pitti> and enjoyed the marvellous spring weather
[20:02] <seb128> nice
[20:02] <seb128> it's spring like here as well
[20:02] <seb128> and I managed to get a cold for it :-(
[20:02] <pitti> urgh, poor you
[20:02] <pitti> it's 25 degrees here
[20:02] <pitti> seb128: better go to bed early?
[20:06] <seb128> pitti, yeah, I will go soon, I did get some extra sleep yesterday and somewhat managing to fight the cold half back so far
[20:06] <seb128> it's warm in there as well
[20:08] <pitti> seb128: then get well soon!
[20:08] <seb128> pitti, thanks ;-)
[20:10] <pitti> bonne nuit tout le monde !
[20:12] <pitti> seb128: comment dis-tu "get well soon" à français ?
[20:13] <seb128> pitti, "soigne-toi bien" I would say
[20:13] <pitti> apparemment, google ne le sais pas
[20:13] <pitti> "sait"
[20:13] <seb128> which is more of "take care"
[20:13] <seb128> or "get better soon" if you want to literal
[20:14] <seb128> -soon
[20:14] <pitti> soigner == to care, selon leo
[20:15] <pitti> seb128: so, "Gute Besserung!"
[20:15]  * pitti waves good night
[20:15] <seb128> pitti, night ;-)
[21:01] <robert_ancell> mterry, should that slot code be pushed to the stable 1.6 branch? Is this a new problem?
[21:47] <robert_ancell> Laney, hey, do you need any help/info for the logind support in LightDM? Did you see the branch from bug 1152185?
[21:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1152185 in Light Display Manager "Can't shut down the computer from the greeter using systemd-logind" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152185
[21:48] <Laney> robert_ancell: I did - do you think they should go together or can be separate?
[21:48] <Laney> I'll have a look at the guy's branch tomorrow
[21:49] <robert_ancell> Laney, it will have to merge with the tests in the first branch, the names are slightly different but the layout is much the same
[21:51]  * Laney nods
[21:52] <Laney> will check on it tomorrow