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| jdstrand | hi! | 16:30 |
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| jjohansen | hey | 16:30 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 16:30 |
| tyhicks | hello | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | #startmeeting | 16:31 |
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| jdstrand | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:31 |
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| jdstrand | (none this week) | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:32 |
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| jdstrand | I'll go first | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | I'm on community this week | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | I have more requirements gathering, planning and communications of our plans to do | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | I also have to finish up performance reviews | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | there are a couple audits to finish | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | and I will be working on two embargoed updates | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | that's it for me | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:34 |
| mdeslaur | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | you bet you are! :P | 16:35 |
| sbeattie | hehe | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | and I only have two days...wednesday I'm on vacation | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: hehe :) | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | (on vac until the 29th | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | I'm currently writing a test script for haproxy, which I'll likely release this afternoon or tomorrow | 16:35 |
| mdeslaur | and am working on an embargoed issue to hand off to one of the non-vacationing suckers | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | and, that's it from me. | 16:36 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: you're up | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | fyi, I forgot one-- hope to do install audits this week too | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | ah cool | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | I'm working on apparmor work items again this week. | 16:36 |
| sbeattie | I'm continuing to write some example clients for confinement, wrote a couple of qml demos last week. | 16:37 |
| sbeattie | will need to put some automation around them as well. | 16:37 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: could you stick those in a bzr tree somewhere? | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: re automation, what are you thinking, for automatic testing? | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: yeah, for automatic testing, as much as possible. | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | drag-n-drop stuff may be harder to automate. | 16:38 |
| sbeattie | mdeslaur: https://code.launchpad.net/~sbeattie/+junk/apparmor-examples | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: cool-- though aiui, having automatic testing is not in scope for this month per se. | 16:39 |
| mdeslaur | sbeattie: ah! cool | 16:39 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: obviously we want it-- what are you thinking about in terms of scheduling that work? | 16:39 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: uhh, hadn't really decided on anything concrete for schedule. | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | ok | 16:40 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: was expecting to coordinate that with you/the team | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: basically my questons are coming from the palce of 'let's focus on what we said we would focus on, but if we have to adjust, let's talk about it' | 16:41 |
| sbeattie | okay | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | so yeah, talking later is fine | 16:41 |
| sbeattie | anyway, that's pretty much it for me. | 16:41 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: you're up | 16:41 |
| tyhicks | I'm working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-1304-appisolation-dbus this week | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Still wrapping up the dbus parser tests item | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Last week while writing parser tests, I ran across some parser bugs | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Those are fixed now and I'm back to improving the tests | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | then I'll move on to "dbus daemon - regression tests" and then to "dbus daemon, pass labeling info on messages so security context can be queried by recipient" | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | eCryptfs prep work for the kernel merge window stole some time from me last week but that is now all done | 16:43 |
| tyhicks | so my sole focus will be on aa work items this week | 16:44 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: did you push your tests anywhere? | 16:44 |
| * jdstrand is happy to hear that we are finding and fixing bugs when writing our tests :) | 16:44 | |
| sbeattie | indeed! | 16:44 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: not yet, when I fully complete that work item the tests will live in the apparmor package of the dbus-dev ppa | 16:44 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: okay, just wondered if you wanted any feedback/review of them... | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | I also did a lot of work (still pending upload) on fixing up the patches in the dbus-dev apparmor package so that the patches will be easier to send upstream | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | sbeattie: I will want some feedback for sure. I'll send them to the list. | 16:45 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:46 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:46 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: thanks | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | I'll be continuing to work on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-1304-appisolation-signals-ipc-ptrace | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | Mostly it should be work around sockets (labeling, passing them, etc) | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | I will also need to spend some time pushing some patches to the upstream security tree so they are there for when the merge window opens | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: regarding upstreamifying-- is that DBus upstreaming, apparmor, kernel, or some combination? | 16:46 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: kernel - ecryptfs work | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: apparmor | 16:47 |
| jjohansen | tyhicks: oh? | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | the patches against the apparmor package were piling up and it was going to be a pain to get them all in order and broken down for upstreaming | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: as in, making them easily digestible for the list? | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand: exactly | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | just a little tidying up before things got too ugly | 16:48 |
| jjohansen | ah | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: curious-- what are you snding to the upstream security tree? | 16:49 |
| jjohansen | jdstrand: about the first 20 patches from the queue that have been reviewed. Its all the base code cleanups and bug fixes | 16:50 |
| jdstrand | neat | 16:50 |
| jjohansen | sarnold: your up | 16:51 |
| sarnold | I'm on triage this week | 16:51 |
| sarnold | I'm finishing up curl publication today, and I'm liable to ask jdstrand if I can take one of his MIR audits | 16:51 |
| sarnold | I'd like to get around to fixing up my juju charms, but that might take a back burner again to doing another update | 16:52 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: if you're up to a challenge, you can try and take the bouncycastle update | 16:52 |
| jdstrand | sarnold: actually one is a MIR audit (ie, not security audit) and the other I'm putting in that category-- it is about the scopes privacy | 16:52 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: java backporting fun | 16:52 |
| sarnold | mdeslaur: that -is- a challenge :) | 16:52 |
| jdstrand | sarnold: actually, it might not be a bad idea to get some help there | 16:53 |
| sarnold | .. with all the goodness of inexplicable crypto goo :) | 16:53 |
| jdstrand | sarnold: but we'll talk later | 16:53 |
| sarnold | cool :) | 16:53 |
| sarnold | chrisccoulson: your turn :) | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | yoyoyo | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | i got a flash update out last week | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | also fixed an arm crash in chromium (waiting on testing feedback from the ufa guys, but it works here) | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | fixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858670, which appeared in the ff20 update | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 858670 in Extension Compatibility "crash in uGlobalMenuObject::ShouldShowIcon with GlobalMenu on Ubuntu" [Critical,New] | 16:55 |
| chrisccoulson | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=858782 also appeared, but i've no idea what is happening there. if any of you use google docs and can recreate it, please let me know ;) | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 858782 in Extension Compatibility "crash in uGlobalMenuDocListener::DoHandleMutations with GlobalMenu on Ubuntu" [Critical,New] | 16:55 |
| chrisccoulson | did a bit more with chromium automated testing. discovered that gtest can already produce junit formatted test results, which is a great help | 16:56 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll hopefully be done with updates / chromium etc this week, so i can start on other things i'm meant to be looking at :) | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | nice | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | (junit) | 16:57 |
| jdstrand | well all of it, but you know, that goes for everyone :) | 16:57 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, unfortunately, i discovered it created junit results after i started writing code to parse the results and convert them ;) | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | (like we're doing for firefox already) | 16:58 |
| jdstrand | heh | 16:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: did you have more? | 16:59 |
| chrisccoulson | no, that's me done i think | 16:59 |
| jdstrand | chrisccoulson: (fyi, since you're last, you can say 'back to you jdstrand or something :) | 16:59 |
| chrisccoulson | sure, no problem | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 17:00 |
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| jdstrand | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gpw.html | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jenkins-winstone.html | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/policycoreutils.html | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/spice-gtk.html | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openjpeg.html | 17:00 |
| jdstrand | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 17:00 |
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| jdstrand | I have one for several of you | 17:01 |
| jdstrand | based on what was said in this meeting, I have a good feeling about progress for the month | 17:01 |
| jdstrand | however, if I look at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-security-ubuntu-13.04-month-6.html I have a less good feeling | 17:01 |
| jdstrand | so, I guess, now that we are 2 weeks in to this month, how are the work items going? Are we 50% done? are there problems? | 17:02 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: ^ we talked about this a bit last week, so afaik, we are slightly behind but aren't worried on our timeline for this month. is that accurate? | 17:02 |
| jjohansen | yes | 17:03 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen: (talking about your work items specifically) | 17:03 |
| tyhicks | I'm not 50% done, but I also haven't been able to spend 100% of my time on the work items | 17:03 |
| tyhicks | I will be able to for the remainder of the month | 17:03 |
| tyhicks | and I'm confident that I can knock off all of my work items by then | 17:03 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: right.. | 17:03 |
| jdstrand | ah, ok | 17:03 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: how about you? ^ | 17:04 |
| sbeattie | sorry, I'm notorious for not updating my workitem entries. | 17:04 |
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| jdstrand | well, I was going to end with 'Please update your work items' :) | 17:04 |
| sbeattie | heh | 17:04 |
| sbeattie | but yeah, feeling pretty confident about where things are at. | 17:05 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: but in a less burndown chart way: are you on track for your work items for the month? | 17:05 |
| tyhicks | forgetting to update the entries is better than not having any updates to make ;) | 17:05 |
| jdstrand | tyhicks: yes!! :) | 17:05 |
| jdstrand | sbeattie: awesome | 17:05 |
| mdeslaur | hehe | 17:05 |
| jdstrand | jjohansen, tyhicks, sbeattie: if you could update this month work items sometime today, that would be great | 17:06 |
| sbeattie | okay | 17:06 |
| * tyhicks nods | 17:06 | |
| jdstrand | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 17:06 |
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| jdstrand | mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! | 17:17 |
| jdstrand | #endmeeting | 17:17 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 15 17:17:49 2013 UTC. | 17:17 |
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| sarnold | thanks jdstrand :) | 17:17 |
| mdeslaur | thanks jdstrand! | 17:17 |
| jjohansen | thanks jdstrand | 17:17 |
| sbeattie | jdstrand: thanks | 17:18 |
| pitti | bonsoir | 19:56 |
| stgraber | bonsoir pitti | 19:57 |
| cjwatson | hi | 19:59 |
| stgraber | #startmeeting Technical Board meeting | 20:00 |
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| stgraber | hey everyone, so from what I'm seeing on the ML, it's just the three of us tonight | 20:00 |
| stgraber | we also appear to have an empty agenda | 20:01 |
| * pitti hasn't caught up with the over-weekend mail flood yet, sorry | 20:01 | |
| pitti | oh, good | 20:01 |
| stgraber | anyway, let's quickly go through the usual points, but I expect this to be a very short meeting | 20:01 |
| stgraber | #topic Action review | 20:01 |
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| cjwatson | TBH I didn't properly catch up on the last meeting to see if we got through all the outstanding business then | 20:02 |
| cjwatson | I didn't see minutes on -devel-announce | 20:02 |
| stgraber | unfortunately it doesn't look like soren got around to doing the post-meeting paperwork, so I'm assuming we didn't have any action | 20:02 |
| cjwatson | If we did I guess we'll find out in two weeks? :) | 20:02 |
| stgraber | IIRC we granted a MRE for xorg and discussed Mark's proposal some more | 20:02 |
| stgraber | mdz was supposed to process the MRE and update the wiki, but IIRC he was waiting for the meeting minutes to link to them | 20:03 |
| stgraber | so hopefully this is enough highlights for both of them to have this sorted out ;) | 20:04 |
| stgraber | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:04 |
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| stgraber | I just did a quick scan, we had a few things but they were resolved by e-mail or were just notifications | 20:05 |
| pitti | I can't see anything in my ML for TB | 20:05 |
| stgraber | #topic Check up on community bugs | 20:05 |
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| stgraber | " | 20:05 |
| stgraber | There are currently no open bugs. | 20:05 |
| stgraber | " | 20:05 |
| stgraber | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 20:05 |
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| stgraber | I think the next chair is cjwatson. However this will be during the client sprint, so we should probably make sure we don't have conflicting meetings | 20:06 |
| pitti | stgraber: well, hopefully the sprint won't be tightly packed with meetings | 20:06 |
| cjwatson | I think we can make a point of carving out time | 20:07 |
| cjwatson | It's on our calendars so we should notice, right? | 20:07 |
| stgraber | I don't think I have the TB meeting on my Canonical calendar, but I can fix that ;) | 20:07 |
| cjwatson | I do, at least | 20:07 |
| stgraber | 12.30-13.30 - Lunch | 20:08 |
| stgraber | so the meeting will be during lunch | 20:08 |
| stgraber | no risk of conflicts then ;) | 20:08 |
| * cjwatson will pack military rations | 20:08 | |
| pitti | one hand typing, the other munching on a sandwich | 20:09 |
| stgraber | sounds like a plan | 20:09 |
| stgraber | #topic AOB | 20:09 |
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| stgraber | #endmeeting | 20:10 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Apr 15 20:10:20 2013 UTC. | 20:10 |
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| pitti | thanks; good night everyone! | 20:10 |
| stgraber | pitti: good night! | 20:10 |
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