=== NomadJim_ is now known as NomadJim === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [03:14] okay I installed xen and I want to figure out how to install ubuntu server on the system as a virtual machine is there a guide for this? === baba is now known as hack === hack is now known as megha === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [06:16] Hi, can someone please let me know the command to check the package version in apt-get prior to its installation? === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm === acidflash__ is now known as acidflash [08:34] join #c [08:34] whoops, [08:34] sorry === acidflash_ is now known as acidflash === smb` is now known as smb === edamato is now known as ed-afk === security is now known as megha === DennisG_NL is now known as DennisG [10:32] Reliable way to list all disk drives connected, even ones not mounted, not formatted, not having a partition table on? [10:32] fdisk -l returns nothing [10:34] ls -al /sys/block ? === acidflash_ is now known as acidflash === billy_ is now known as wickedpuppy [11:54] do I need to setup split-dns if I'm configuring a backup mx postfix server behind NAT? [11:54] I am using virtual mashine on windows 7, running ubuntu server latest version and i need to configure simple DNS and DHCP server, and can someone point me to some good tutorial (for noobs) THANKS [11:55] hey does ufw persist iptables rules, or is that upto the admin? [12:26] Walther: I usually use "cat /proc/partitions". Also lsblk is nice. [12:47] Joel_re: ufw rules survive a reboot, yes [13:01] Daviey, Do you know whether there is someone special on the SRU team for Xen? [13:04] RoyK: ok, which file does ufw write to when rules are added using the ufw command? [13:05] don't remember [13:05] hrm /etc/ufw/*.rules <- those are edited by users not ufw .. is that correct? [13:05] Joel_re: /lib/ufw/*rules [13:06] jdstrand: thank you sir [13:06] Joel_re: /etc/ufw/*rules is for admins, yes [13:06] ok [13:06] (fyi, man ufw-framework tells you where everything is and how it works together) [13:07] ah ok [13:21] hello, I'm looking for a PPA of libvirt that I can use in quantal with more recent versions than 0.9.13. [13:33] matzie: raring isn't far ahead, so it should be safe-ish to upgrade to the prerelease. I've been using that for a couple of months for a raidtest vm [13:34] I'm considering that, thanks. [13:34] matzie: release date April 25th [13:34] cool [13:35] so do-release-upgrade -d ;) [13:37] heh, neat - started an extra failsafe sshd on a new port. impressed. [13:38] I've never had to use that [13:38] but it's neat :) [13:39] I had to use it once [13:39] ok [13:39] but that was back in feisty or so === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [13:54] patdk-wk_: a wee while ago ;) [14:11] roaksoax: ping [14:13] kirkland: pong [16:20] smb: hey, infinity is probably the best person for xen sru. [16:20] Daviey, that probably is true === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === matsubara_ is now known as matsubara-lunch === security is now known as megha [17:17] Could someone help me? I am currently learning Ubuntu server. I have made a users. I created folders in the admins root directory not knowing where else to place them for easy sharing. Now i am trying to access these folders but don't know how using the command line [17:18] Correction: I'm trying to access them from another user. [17:21] Sabbathlives: placing shared data in /root is not ideal -- typically, a user's home directory would have the data, if one user could be said to be the 'owner' of the data -- if not, then a dedicated directory in /home or /srv might be better. (it's not exactly something that's well-described...) [17:22] Sabbathlives: check out the filesystem heirarchy standard (FHS) -- it's _not_ a standard, and not even all that common among distros :) -- but it will give you a good idea of what sorts of files go where [17:25] Sarnold: So it be better to place these folders in the system directory? [17:25] Sabbathlives: I'd probably put them in /home/data or /home/shared or something like that instead. [17:31] Sarnold: How do i navigate to the /home/shared directory using command line? [17:31] Sabbathlives: cd /home/shared [17:32] Sarnold: Thanx, shared folder doesn't exist but i was able to access the home folder [17:34] Sabbathlives: then you'll want to 'sudo mkdir /home/shared' to create the directory; you'll need to decide who gets to work with the directory, with what permissions. that can be annoying. [17:39] Sarnold: thanx, i ended up just throwing them into the /home for now. The folders i moved already have access permission attached to them using ACL. [17:40] Sabbathlives: probably the easiest thing to do is to make sure your filesystem mounts with 'bsdgroups' option, add your users to a group, set the group owner of that directory to the group, and then set the setgid bit. It's a bit complicated, sadly, but that will let everyone in the group access the directory without needing sudo... [17:40] Sabbathlives: aha :) [17:41] sarnold: Thank you, so much for the help [17:41] Sabbathlives: have fun :) === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === ryanclancy000 is now known as Guest26052 [19:38] hi guys i ahve a apache2 web server but when i do this none returns ---> netstat -tulpn | grep :8 ---> just blank [19:52] ruben231: check the apache logs [19:55] anyone have experience with lxc containers inside amazon cloud...anytime I run lxc-shutdown -n severName it just shut downs the whole server === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert [21:06] hi, i bought a computer and a 3 TB hdd in order to back up a 320 GB hdd. what would you suggest for partiitoning, filesystem, etc.? [21:07] i have some folders of important data which i want to be backed up but a good part of it not required to be backed up [21:07] do you think that a cron, that updates 320GB->3TB is enough? [21:07] benedict_: you may need gparted to partition. I still like ext3, I [21:08] benedict_: .. I'll let others test ext4 a bit more first.. [21:08] sarnold: ok - i'm not going for any edge technology anyway :P [21:08] benedict_: rsnapshot may be useful to you.. I like it, anyway. :) [21:09] i was thinking that RAID would be a bit over the top [21:10] also the point is that i am not the one to maintain this system - so i would not go too high in terms of complexity [21:10] raid is nice but no backup solution.. [21:10] mirroring? [21:11] ok, i see what you want to point out [21:12] Mirroring and RAID help prevent data loss from drive failure, but not user error. +1 for rsnapshot. [21:13] markthomas: what portects against bit-flipping? [21:13] e.g. if the active hdd flips a bit by accident [21:14] benedict_: that's a problem for RAID, not rsnapshot. The latter is file-level backup. [21:14] most drives spend roughly 540 bits to store 512 bits of data -- by the time you get an error that can't be recovered, I'd be surprised if it is just a bit flipped rather than the entire sector reports unreadable.. [21:15] ok [21:15] markthomas: but in case the bit flips - rsnapshot would take over that change [21:16] Which is why it stores whatever combination of hourly, daily, monthly, etc. backups you specify. [21:16] you could always store checksums or detached gpg sigs or something to keep track of your data integrity.. [21:16] not that i reject rsnapshot - i will try it for sure... just trying to find things i have not considered yet [21:17] ok [21:18] rdiff? [21:18] versioned backups are always a good layer to have in your D.R. [21:19] * RoyK uses bacula and crashplan [21:20] markthomas: D.R. ? [21:23] thanks for your suggestions - have a good day/night === patdk-wk_ is now known as patdk-wk [22:25] Hey guys. I've put in a bit of study today on IPTABLES and have gotten a simple set of rules running smoothly. But, if anyone can provide me with links to examples of an advanced implementation that uses two nics (one internet one lan obviously) I would greatly appricate it.. or please direct me to a different channel if I am asking this in the wrong place === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away