| jrwren | snap-l: did you see Ivan Moravec has a 2009 release of Antonin Dvoråk? | 01:39 |
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| derekv | i'm not seeming to get around to this ubuntu install , maybe i should bring the tower with to chc | 01:50 |
| derekv | and a disk | 01:50 |
| derekv | =p | 01:50 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I did not | 02:24 |
| snap-l | At least I didn't realize it was that new | 02:24 |
| snap-l | derekv: Feel free. | 02:24 |
| snap-l | Good morning, everyone | 12:22 |
| snap-l | Happy Tax Day. | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | yay tax day. Instead of buying a new ford focus I paid annual and quaterly taxes. | 12:24 |
| * rick_h_ goes over and grumbles in the corner | 12:25 | |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yeah, know the feeling | 12:28 |
| snap-l | Though not to that extreme | 12:28 |
| snap-l | Looked at our bank account and thought "That won't be that high for long" | 12:28 |
| snap-l | Not sure when they'll cash the check, but know it'll make a noise when it hits. :) | 12:29 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 12:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, poor morgan stanley was getting excided they'd be able to invest our $$ except the govt is going to do it form them when the checks hit. :) | 12:30 |
| rick_h_ | /form/for | 12:30 |
| derekv | could be worse | 12:43 |
| derekv | ofc, could be better | 12:43 |
| rick_h_ | derekv: definitely. | 13:00 |
| snap-l | "Who knows what's updated I guess [mitechie]" | 15:07 |
| snap-l | Love this comimt message. :) | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | lol, where did I put that one? my vim config? | 15:07 |
| snap-l | Yeah | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | yea, once in a while I just go in there and git st and git xa "made changes and such" | 15:08 |
| snap-l | Was checking if you weere using git submodules | 15:08 |
| snap-l | Yeah, same here | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | no no no no no no no | 15:08 |
| * rick_h_ hates those evil things | 15:08 | |
| snap-l | yeah, they look... awful. | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | they've gotten better I guess but man I tried using them once and just found it more painful than anything | 15:10 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm reading the chapters on submodules in the O'Reilly git book, and while they look improved, they still have hairy edges | 15:13 |
| snap-l | Damn, greg-g isn't in here. | 17:12 |
| snap-l | I was hoping he might explain this: https://soundcloud.com/bonobo | 17:12 |
| snap-l | I don't get it | 17:13 |
| brousch | snap-l: You summoned him! | 17:13 |
| snap-l | I was hoping greg_g might explain this: https://soundcloud.com/bonobo | 17:16 |
| snap-l | ;) | 17:16 |
| snap-l | Because I don't get it | 17:16 |
| === greg_g is now known as greg-g | ||
| greg-g | snap-l: I uhhh | 17:19 |
| greg-g | what? | 17:20 |
| snap-l | greg-g: But you're in SOMA. You should be able to explain these things. :) | 17:20 |
| greg-g | snap-l: hip music? | 17:20 |
| snap-l | Chris Messina posted this album, and apparently people are calling brilliant | 17:21 |
| snap-l | I'm thinking I'm wasting my life nto being an electronic musician | 17:21 |
| === UnFixed_ is now known as UnFixed | ||
| greg-g | snap-l: I mean, it is nice | 17:22 |
| greg-g | enjoyable | 17:22 |
| greg-g | fun sounding | 17:22 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's not horrid | 17:22 |
| greg-g | I don't think it's bad at all | 17:22 |
| greg-g | not earth shattering or anything though | 17:23 |
| greg-g | I might listen to it today | 17:23 |
| snap-l | But I'm no getting the "brilliant" platitudes | 17:23 |
| snap-l | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9058804/stomp.mp3 <- This, on the otherhand, is brilliant. ;) | 17:24 |
| nullspace | any setup 802.3ad before? | 17:26 |
| snap-l | Not I | 17:26 |
| rick_h_ | nope | 17:26 |
| nullspace | going to give whirl sometime this week, bond nics sounds handy, luck I have a switch that supports it | 17:27 |
| snap-l | nullspace: So it's a way to use two networks at the same time to send data to a machine? | 17:29 |
| rick_h_ | anyone know anyone that's gotten a system76 water cooled system? | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | after seeing the videos I'm getting sucked into the idea of a quiet monster of a machine | 17:30 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: You'd be the first I would know. :) | 17:30 |
| rick_h_ | but never done water cooling | 17:30 |
| snap-l | water cooling gives me some pause | 17:30 |
| snap-l | but that's because I think of these frankenstein's monster contraptions with some not-quite-bright-boy trying to OC their machine one more MHz | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea, me too but man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cQX9ifbfdeA | 17:31 |
| rick_h_ | that's a cool watch once you get past the hosts and don't pay attention to their 'benchmarks' | 17:32 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Yeah, Linux Action Show drives me nuts | 17:32 |
| snap-l | but they have personality | 17:33 |
| snap-l | OK, they don't drive me as nuts as I remember. | 17:34 |
| greg-g | watered cooled 10 years ago: no way. Now, with an respectable OEM doing it: sure. | 17:35 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, I know it's not scientific, but would love to have someone say "yea, np" or something. | 17:35 |
| greg-g | :) | 17:36 |
| greg-g | snap-l: I'm tapping my foot to this bonobo album ;) | 17:37 |
| nullspace | snap-l: yes,kinda, you bond two nics together on the same machine and they are used like one interface. It improves bandwidti to/from machine and is fault tolerance | 17:37 |
| nullspace | torleant | 17:37 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Report to Michigan immediately. | 17:37 |
| nullspace | but you need a switch that can trunk the two ports that those nics are connected to | 17:37 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Yeah, it kinda breaks my brain on how networking works. | 17:38 |
| snap-l | but on thinking about it, it makes sense. | 17:38 |
| nullspace | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding | 17:38 |
| rick_h_ | so is this on some server doing bandwidth over the wall or just to tinker with? | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | dual nics are great, gigabit each one, dns round robin or proxy server them, run two isntances of your app or bind to both interfaces, and rock and roll. | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | bonding seems like unnecessary complication | 17:40 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: It seems like something where you don't want to do round-robin | 17:40 |
| greg-g | snap-l: :P | 17:40 |
| snap-l | ie: SAN | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: right, so that's what I mean. use case? | 17:40 |
| rick_h_ | sure SAN, backing up a 30TB server and you have one giant tarball to move, just seems limited uses. | 17:41 |
| nullspace | it's for home, and yes it's essentially for moving large files around | 17:41 |
| snap-l | Or multiple clients on a SAN picking up TB files | 17:41 |
| rick_h_ | but even then, why not have the multiple clients hit a front end that picks a non-peak connection to give you on the other nic? | 17:42 |
| rick_h_ | "here, you heach get a GB of pipe, enjoy" vs "let's toggle back/forth between you guys on 2GB of pipe after it goes through bonding overhead" | 17:43 |
| snap-l | bercause you want to saturate two separate networks with file transfers? | 17:43 |
| snap-l | Or multiple networks | 17:43 |
| snap-l | It looks like a way to get around the limitations of one datacenter network | 17:44 |
| snap-l | Not every company runs their VOIP next to their desktop machines next to their servers. ;) | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | sure, but missing how that fits into bonding a connection between the server and the switch? | 17:45 |
| snap-l | Think two switches | 17:45 |
| nullspace | rick_h_: isn't that what the aggreation software essentially do? Pick the least busy of the two nics ona new request? | 17:45 |
| rick_h_ | nullspace: sure but bonding makes it one pipe right? Like a raid0. Half the bits to one, half to the other allowing for 2x the pipe (approx) | 17:46 |
| nullspace | well there are different types of bonding it seems | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | a proxy just allows you to use some smarts to pick a good pipe. | 17:47 |
| snap-l | Right, but proxying ties you to one pipe | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | ah, well that makes sense. | 17:47 |
| snap-l | as opposed to giving you multiple pipes. | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: right, but provides fail over and the ability to add/shrink resources and the like | 17:47 |
| snap-l | yeah, different use cases. | 17:47 |
| snap-l | For a web server, bonding doesn't make much sense | 17:47 |
| rick_h_ | seems some overlap, but ok. I was just curious on the use case for the bonding setup. | 17:47 |
| snap-l | at least I don't see how it would make sense | 17:48 |
| greg-g | snap-l: still enjoying it :P | 18:29 |
| snap-l | greg-g: *sigh* | 18:29 |
| snap-l | et tu, Grossmeier? | 18:29 |
| brousch | Interesting http://inventwithpython.com/hacking/ | 18:34 |
| snap-l | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_military_slang | 18:34 |
| snap-l | I'm going to use the term "bag of smashed asshole" from here on out. | 18:35 |
| snap-l | Also: what's the python hotness for blogging? | 18:41 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: blogofile looks to be un-maintained atm, but some fans. Pelican is the latest hotness I guess. | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | of course you're supposed to write your own | 18:42 |
| rick_h_ | see http://pydanny.com/choosing-a-new-python-based-blog-engine.html | 18:43 |
| rick_h_ | for a year-ago view | 18:43 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I looked briefly at Pelican. Looked interesting. | 18:45 |
| brousch | I've seena lot of django-based blogging tools that produce static sites | 18:47 |
| brousch | I still use wordpress | 18:48 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I saw Hyde, which looked... odd | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | if the reason to use djawngo is the ORM/admin site...why do static generation in django? | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | it's like using the worst bits for everything. template, settings, etc. | 18:48 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: ++ | 18:48 |
| rick_h_ | but yea, pay wordpress the $$ and stop worrying about the blog, but I have to say it hasn't helped me blog more. | 18:48 |
| snap-l | Reminds me of my little blogging thingie that used MySQL as the backend | 18:49 |
| brousch | I pay dreamhost | 18:49 |
| snap-l | had a text box that just stuffed entries into a database table, and then created static files off of that. | 18:49 |
| rick_h_ | which ever static site generator gives me a makefile wins!! | 18:50 |
| snap-l | Pelican has a makefile. ;) | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | winner! | 18:51 |
| brousch | hah | 18:51 |
| snap-l | Honestly, if I didn't cre about my old blog entries, I'd be using Pelican right now | 18:51 |
| snap-l | but the porting is a little wonky | 18:51 |
| snap-l | and I'm not 100% sold on Disqus | 18:52 |
| snap-l | But the Wordpress attacks are getting more sophisticated, so I'm wondering if it's only a matter of time until it gets cracked. | 18:52 |
| brousch | Disqus is the bizomb | 18:52 |
| greg-g | :( | 18:52 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Why the sad? | 18:53 |
| greg-g | Disqus, I hates it | 18:53 |
| snap-l | What's wrong with Disqus/ | 18:53 |
| snap-l | ? | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | heh, who's data is it :P | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | JS loading or bust | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | etc and so on | 18:53 |
| snap-l | I figured it was one of the two. :) | 18:54 |
| greg-g | option a | 18:56 |
| greg-g | also privacy | 18:56 |
| greg-g | also lockin | 18:56 |
| greg-g | ya know, the same reasons I don't like facebook-powered comments | 18:56 |
| rick_h_ | I will say privacy came up in their pycon talk we watched at CHC and their answer is "we only support public comments" | 18:56 |
| greg-g | so.... that's skirting the issue | 18:57 |
| greg-g | privacy as in: who knows what blogs I read and comment on | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | what' privacy if there's no private data? | 18:57 |
| rick_h_ | ah, I see | 18:57 |
| greg-g | if I'm forced to use a single service, they do, and that info is very easily taken by whomever | 18:58 |
| snap-l | greg-g: You shouldn't be blogging on those [expletive deleted] sites anyway. :) | 18:58 |
| greg-g | zactly | 18:59 |
| brousch | http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/472149-comments-export | 19:12 |
| greg-g | brousch: only part of my complaint :) facebook also lets me "export my data" | 19:17 |
| rick_h_ | lol, sometimes recruiter calls can be fun. | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | "what's your current work situation" | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | "Well, I work for canonical, from home, doing OSS full time. Why do you ask?" | 19:25 |
| rick_h_ | "well, got a thing in NY for converting asp.net apps to django if you're interested" | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | ummm...no thanks | 19:26 |
| brousch | djangoooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 19:27 |
| rick_h_ | oh man...boston marathon bombing? w..t..f | 19:28 |
| rick_h_ | wow, that's one disturbing pic... | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | ugh http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=2603667 | 19:43 |
| _stink_ | yeah, there are a few kind of gory ones | 19:50 |
| _stink_ | floating around | 19:50 |
| jjesse | 2 explosions at Boston | 20:00 |
| jjesse | my wife's marathon time is 4:10 on her last one, the explosion went off at 4:09 | 20:01 |
| snap-l | Unbelieveable | 20:08 |
| jjesse | btw G+ is terrible for me for news like this | 20:09 |
| _stink_ | yeah, i had to back off everything | 20:09 |
| jjesse | what i meant was that I've seen 2 posts on G+ about this and Twitter is actually giving me information | 20:10 |
| _stink_ | ah, hah | 20:10 |
| snap-l | yeah, Twitter is good for the stream of information | 20:27 |
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