[01:39] snap-l: did you see Ivan Moravec has a 2009 release of Antonin Dvoråk? [01:50] i'm not seeming to get around to this ubuntu install , maybe i should bring the tower with to chc [01:50] and a disk [01:50] =p [02:24] jrwren: I did not [02:24] At least I didn't realize it was that new [02:24] derekv: Feel free. [12:22] Good morning, everyone [12:22] Happy Tax Day. [12:24] yay tax day. Instead of buying a new ford focus I paid annual and quaterly taxes. [12:25] * rick_h_ goes over and grumbles in the corner [12:28] rick_h_: Yeah, know the feeling [12:28] Though not to that extreme [12:28] Looked at our bank account and thought "That won't be that high for long" [12:29] Not sure when they'll cash the check, but know it'll make a noise when it hits. :) [12:29] hah [12:30] yea, poor morgan stanley was getting excided they'd be able to invest our $$ except the govt is going to do it form them when the checks hit. :) [12:30] /form/for [12:43] could be worse [12:43] ofc, could be better [13:00] derekv: definitely. [15:07] "Who knows what's updated I guess [mitechie]" [15:07] Love this comimt message. :) [15:07] lol, where did I put that one? my vim config? [15:07] Yeah [15:08] yea, once in a while I just go in there and git st and git xa "made changes and such" [15:08] Was checking if you weere using git submodules [15:08] Yeah, same here [15:08] no no no no no no no [15:08] * rick_h_ hates those evil things [15:09] yeah, they look... awful. [15:10] they've gotten better I guess but man I tried using them once and just found it more painful than anything [15:13] Yeah, I'm reading the chapters on submodules in the O'Reilly git book, and while they look improved, they still have hairy edges [17:12] Damn, greg-g isn't in here. [17:12] I was hoping he might explain this: https://soundcloud.com/bonobo [17:13] I don't get it [17:13] snap-l: You summoned him! [17:16] I was hoping greg_g might explain this: https://soundcloud.com/bonobo [17:16] ;) [17:16] Because I don't get it === greg_g is now known as greg-g [17:19] snap-l: I uhhh [17:20] what? [17:20] greg-g: But you're in SOMA. You should be able to explain these things. :) [17:20] snap-l: hip music? [17:21] Chris Messina posted this album, and apparently people are calling brilliant [17:21] I'm thinking I'm wasting my life nto being an electronic musician === UnFixed_ is now known as UnFixed [17:22] snap-l: I mean, it is nice [17:22] enjoyable [17:22] fun sounding [17:22] Yeah, it's not horrid [17:22] I don't think it's bad at all [17:23] not earth shattering or anything though [17:23] I might listen to it today [17:23] But I'm no getting the "brilliant" platitudes [17:24] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9058804/stomp.mp3 <- This, on the otherhand, is brilliant. ;) [17:26] any setup 802.3ad before? [17:26] Not I [17:26] nope [17:27] going to give whirl sometime this week, bond nics sounds handy, luck I have a switch that supports it [17:29] nullspace: So it's a way to use two networks at the same time to send data to a machine? [17:30] anyone know anyone that's gotten a system76 water cooled system? [17:30] after seeing the videos I'm getting sucked into the idea of a quiet monster of a machine [17:30] rick_h_: You'd be the first I would know. :) [17:30] but never done water cooling [17:30] water cooling gives me some pause [17:31] but that's because I think of these frankenstein's monster contraptions with some not-quite-bright-boy trying to OC their machine one more MHz [17:31] snap-l: yea, me too but man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cQX9ifbfdeA [17:32] that's a cool watch once you get past the hosts and don't pay attention to their 'benchmarks' [17:32] rick_h_: Yeah, Linux Action Show drives me nuts [17:33] but they have personality [17:34] OK, they don't drive me as nuts as I remember. [17:35] watered cooled 10 years ago: no way. Now, with an respectable OEM doing it: sure. [17:35] greg-g: yea, I know it's not scientific, but would love to have someone say "yea, np" or something. [17:36] :) [17:37] snap-l: I'm tapping my foot to this bonobo album ;) [17:37] snap-l: yes,kinda, you bond two nics together on the same machine and they are used like one interface. It improves bandwidti to/from machine and is fault tolerance [17:37] torleant [17:37] greg-g: Report to Michigan immediately. [17:37] but you need a switch that can trunk the two ports that those nics are connected to [17:38] nullspace: Yeah, it kinda breaks my brain on how networking works. [17:38] but on thinking about it, it makes sense. [17:38] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding [17:39] so is this on some server doing bandwidth over the wall or just to tinker with? [17:39] dual nics are great, gigabit each one, dns round robin or proxy server them, run two isntances of your app or bind to both interfaces, and rock and roll. [17:40] bonding seems like unnecessary complication [17:40] rick_h_: It seems like something where you don't want to do round-robin [17:40] snap-l: :P [17:40] ie: SAN [17:40] snap-l: right, so that's what I mean. use case? [17:41] sure SAN, backing up a 30TB server and you have one giant tarball to move, just seems limited uses. [17:41] it's for home, and yes it's essentially for moving large files around [17:41] Or multiple clients on a SAN picking up TB files [17:42] but even then, why not have the multiple clients hit a front end that picks a non-peak connection to give you on the other nic? [17:43] "here, you heach get a GB of pipe, enjoy" vs "let's toggle back/forth between you guys on 2GB of pipe after it goes through bonding overhead" [17:43] bercause you want to saturate two separate networks with file transfers? [17:43] Or multiple networks [17:44] It looks like a way to get around the limitations of one datacenter network [17:45] Not every company runs their VOIP next to their desktop machines next to their servers. ;) [17:45] sure, but missing how that fits into bonding a connection between the server and the switch? [17:45] Think two switches [17:45] rick_h_: isn't that what the aggreation software essentially do? Pick the least busy of the two nics ona new request? [17:46] nullspace: sure but bonding makes it one pipe right? Like a raid0. Half the bits to one, half to the other allowing for 2x the pipe (approx) [17:47] well there are different types of bonding it seems [17:47] a proxy just allows you to use some smarts to pick a good pipe. [17:47] Right, but proxying ties you to one pipe [17:47] ah, well that makes sense. [17:47] as opposed to giving you multiple pipes. [17:47] snap-l: right, but provides fail over and the ability to add/shrink resources and the like [17:47] yeah, different use cases. [17:47] For a web server, bonding doesn't make much sense [17:47] seems some overlap, but ok. I was just curious on the use case for the bonding setup. [17:48] at least I don't see how it would make sense [18:29] snap-l: still enjoying it :P [18:29] greg-g: *sigh* [18:29] et tu, Grossmeier? [18:34] Interesting http://inventwithpython.com/hacking/ [18:34] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Glossary_of_military_slang [18:35] I'm going to use the term "bag of smashed asshole" from here on out. [18:41] Also: what's the python hotness for blogging? [18:42] snap-l: blogofile looks to be un-maintained atm, but some fans. Pelican is the latest hotness I guess. [18:42] of course you're supposed to write your own [18:43] see http://pydanny.com/choosing-a-new-python-based-blog-engine.html [18:43] for a year-ago view [18:45] Yeah, I looked briefly at Pelican. Looked interesting. [18:47] I've seena lot of django-based blogging tools that produce static sites [18:48] I still use wordpress [18:48] Yeah, I saw Hyde, which looked... odd [18:48] if the reason to use djawngo is the ORM/admin site...why do static generation in django? [18:48] it's like using the worst bits for everything. template, settings, etc. [18:48] rick_h_: ++ [18:48] but yea, pay wordpress the $$ and stop worrying about the blog, but I have to say it hasn't helped me blog more. [18:49] Reminds me of my little blogging thingie that used MySQL as the backend [18:49] I pay dreamhost [18:49] had a text box that just stuffed entries into a database table, and then created static files off of that. [18:50] which ever static site generator gives me a makefile wins!! [18:51] Pelican has a makefile. ;) [18:51] winner! [18:51] hah [18:51] Honestly, if I didn't cre about my old blog entries, I'd be using Pelican right now [18:51] but the porting is a little wonky [18:52] and I'm not 100% sold on Disqus [18:52] But the Wordpress attacks are getting more sophisticated, so I'm wondering if it's only a matter of time until it gets cracked. [18:52] Disqus is the bizomb [18:52] :( [18:53] greg-g: Why the sad? [18:53] Disqus, I hates it [18:53] What's wrong with Disqus/ [18:53] ? [18:53] heh, who's data is it :P [18:53] JS loading or bust [18:53] etc and so on [18:54] I figured it was one of the two. :) [18:56] option a [18:56] also privacy [18:56] also lockin [18:56] ya know, the same reasons I don't like facebook-powered comments [18:56] I will say privacy came up in their pycon talk we watched at CHC and their answer is "we only support public comments" [18:57] so.... that's skirting the issue [18:57] privacy as in: who knows what blogs I read and comment on [18:57] what' privacy if there's no private data? [18:57] ah, I see [18:58] if I'm forced to use a single service, they do, and that info is very easily taken by whomever [18:58] greg-g: You shouldn't be blogging on those [expletive deleted] sites anyway. :) [18:59] zactly [19:12] http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/472149-comments-export [19:17] brousch: only part of my complaint :) facebook also lets me "export my data" [19:25] lol, sometimes recruiter calls can be fun. [19:25] "what's your current work situation" [19:25] "Well, I work for canonical, from home, doing OSS full time. Why do you ask?" [19:26] "well, got a thing in NY for converting asp.net apps to django if you're interested" [19:26] ummm...no thanks [19:27] djangoooooooooooooooooooooooooo [19:28] oh man...boston marathon bombing? w..t..f [19:31] wow, that's one disturbing pic... [19:43] ugh http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=2603667 [19:50] <_stink_> yeah, there are a few kind of gory ones [19:50] <_stink_> floating around [20:00] 2 explosions at Boston [20:01] my wife's marathon time is 4:10 on her last one, the explosion went off at 4:09 [20:08] Unbelieveable [20:09] btw G+ is terrible for me for news like this [20:09] <_stink_> yeah, i had to back off everything [20:10] what i meant was that I've seen 2 posts on G+ about this and Twitter is actually giving me information [20:10] <_stink_> ah, hah [20:27] yeah, Twitter is good for the stream of information