=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:54] morning all [06:10] hi henk [06:21] hi Kilos [06:21] hi Jabberwocky_ [06:22] what a massive mail in the lists from Ramu Lyer [06:32] hiya Kilos, henkj, Jabberwocky_ [06:32] morning superfly [06:32] morning superfly [06:40] hi HawkiesZA [06:40] Morning all the people! [06:50] hiya maiatoday [06:52] hi Kilos [06:55] hi maiatoday [06:55] * superfly has already said hello to HawkiesZA [07:03] hi superfly [07:22] morning [07:24] hi Squirm [07:31] morning all :) [07:31] aloha ThatGraemeGuy [07:35] hi ThatGraemeGuy [07:54] môre inetpro [08:05] goeie more Kilos and everone else [08:42] hi Vince-0 [08:44] Hi Kilos [08:45] Monday blady Maanday [08:57] lol Vince-0 [08:57] I second that [09:19] Symmetria: *poke* [09:31] superfly *slap* [09:31] ;p [09:31] sorry Im around :) just concentrating on something [09:32] Symmetria: who can we poke to get za.archive.ubuntu.com up and running again? [09:33] superfly patrickh@tenet.ac.za [09:33] (Patrick Holahan) [09:33] Symmetria: ta. [09:33] in the mean time, mirror.ufs.ac.za [09:33] has a full and complete mirror on it [09:33] you'd have to check the pathing [09:33] and its synching often [09:33] and its got just as much bandwidth [09:34] ta [09:36] mornign all [09:36] morning even [09:38] hi magespawn [09:38] whats up? [09:38] the sun [09:39] ah well that is very good. i saw that happen this morning [09:39] lol [09:40] gravity is still switched on, as well, so all in all turning out to be an excellent day [09:41] yip [09:45] brain is a bit in limbo, been up since 04:00 [09:51] why? [09:51] kids? [09:52] no early game drive [10:07] where were ya doing game drive? [10:07] Hluhluwe Game Reserve [10:07] * Symmetria did a game drive in nairobi national park on saturday :) [10:08] i was the guide on this one [10:08] then went to the animal orphanage there where they look after and rehab animals who have lost their parents before putting em back in the park [10:08] heh, that animal orphanage was cool, a lot of the wild monkeys out the park come into it to see if they can get food from the baby animals that isnt eaten etc [10:08] so the guide there was like, here, give them some peanuts, they are pretty tame [10:09] so they were eating peanuts outta my hand, next thing I had a young vervet jump on my shoulder and try play with my hair lol [10:09] did it pee on you? they mark their territory lik that [10:10] hehehe nah buts its mom didnt look happy with it sitting on my shoulder [10:10] heh I was keeping a very wary eye on the baboons that were around though [10:10] those things scare me [10:15] afternoon people [10:15] is anybody alive ?? [10:16] afternoon trender [10:17] hi tend [10:17] ai! [10:17] hi trender [10:17] welcome to ubuntu-za [10:17] hi :) [10:18] if you dont run away you can join us for our monthly meeting tonight [10:18] you okes from durban ? [10:18] all over [10:18] ah yes im sure [10:18] was figuring mostly durban people [10:18] the whole country and some in the NL [10:18] some are in durban and the surrounds [10:18] im in durban [10:19] i actually think we got more cape peeps here [10:19] the durbs okes are always on holiday [10:19] erm and other are in #clug [10:19] on a different network [10:19] are you one of the durbs lug guys? [10:19] no no [10:19] im a durban noob [10:20] ah welcome [10:20] even a linux noob [10:20] put this channel on your cant be disconnected lists [10:20] but and old school develloper [10:20] this is the right place for linux help [10:20] an = and [10:21] have strange interests [10:21] tell us about yourself [10:21] nice to see new faces here [10:21] engineering etc [10:21] brb ok [10:21] need to open door [10:22] ok [10:22] there is no rushing on this channel [10:22] you can wait hours at times [10:22] ok back [10:22] wb [10:23] well im an old school asm programmer [10:23] and develloper i guess [10:23] but dont really do much deve anymore [10:23] dev [10:24] ah , we have 2 ubuntu dev guys here [10:24] are you using ubuntu? [10:24] no no windoze [10:24] aw shame [10:25] we will convert you [10:25] :) [10:25] i have an interesting story [10:25] there are guys in durbs with official cds still methinks [10:25] ok tell [10:25] erm ok i can shaow you [10:26] i have these little linux lunch boxes [10:26] called squareone from itian [10:27] and they are missing linux image files = linux applications [10:27] if youd like a look i can give you the address [10:27] i think its a very interesting toy [10:28] so i bought 100pcs to play with [10:28] try be here at 19.30 tonight then the durbs guys will be here [10:28] 100? [10:28] whew [10:28] yea yea [10:28] 100pcs [10:28] you like the sounds of this toy ? [10:29] ive put it online for linux okes to play with it [10:29] link? [10:29] im still learning about pc's so dont mess with other things mostly [10:29] erm mage should i give the link in private [10:30] but will look [10:30] no here [10:30] http://192.168.0.254:8090/ [10:30] so we can all see [10:30] oops sorry [10:30] let me fix that [10:30] hehe [10:30] 105.225.161.189:8090 [10:30] that looks like a private network link [10:30] sure it is [10:31] admin:squareone ok [10:31] try not to toast it [10:31] is it http then that long number? [10:31] but its a fine exibit [10:31] you okay with people have a look on your private net? [10:31] http://105.225.161.189:8090 [10:32] yea off course [10:32] you see what it looks like ? [10:33] you can log in with admin:squareone [10:33] thats the admin config page [10:33] the telent is also open [10:34] its missing the hard disk image files [10:34] so i need to rebuild these up [10:34] make my own image packs [10:34] aw i cant get past the first page [10:35] you can log in with admin:squareone [10:36] user admin password squareone [10:36] its an all in one linux server lunchbox [10:36] correct yes [10:36] looks cool [10:37] im interested what you guys make of it [10:37] its just a brick at present [10:37] use? internet proxy/server? [10:37] with a 70gb hard drive in right now [10:38] erm i dont know if you can use a proxy with it [10:38] you likely can yea [10:38] try not to reformat the hard disk :P [10:39] nah [10:39] * Squirm looks around [10:39] obviously you guys can do anything you like to it tho [10:39] including reboot it and such [10:39] at the core it has an arm41 processor [10:40] do you need a adsl modem to get it on line? [10:40] running what apprears to be an embedded linux OS [10:40] yes its connected to my adsl router [10:40] at present [10:41] ive just done the network stuff to get it online [10:41] the poking inside the box is done via telnet [10:42] i see that it will do it its own routing as, so you only need a adsl modem [10:42] you are correct yes [10:42] it has 4 ports for routing [10:42] i dont need those though my router already does that [10:43] ou can drop any linux package on the box via the admin interface "install hdd image" [10:43] you = ou [10:44] but i think you need to go in via telnet to ./configure packages [10:45] off course i know nothing about linux [10:45] just have interogated this relic for 2 days [10:45] poked around and such [10:46] i would very much like to get the NAS working [10:46] like install samba and apache [10:46] lookd like a great little box [10:46] what is the physical size? [10:46] but i dont really know how to install software on this box [10:46] lunch box size [10:48] its only bix enuf to install the hard disk inside [10:48] 70g or 80g [10:48] this page shows all the services that are currently running [10:48] http://105.225.161.189:8090/server/sstart [10:49] correct [10:49] ideally i would like it to run NAS and web services [10:49] looks like if you want to extend the functionality you have install and os in=mage to the drive [10:49] you know telnet is not secure [10:49] ? [10:49] yes i need some image [10:49] yes my telnet is open [10:50] im open for suggestions to get this box working [10:51] is there a hard drive in it now? [10:51] get an ubuntu iso and install it [10:51] 70gb hard drive in it now yes [10:52] i wont know how to install ubuntu on this box [10:52] i didnt know they made 70gB drives [10:52] it looks like you need to image an active hard drive that has the install as you want it then upload it to the box [10:52] no dvdrom or nothing [10:53] it has no bootable devices [10:53] cant you plugin an external dvdrom [10:53] maybe wait till one of the smart guys put their head in [10:53] ok brb ok need to get the door [10:53] yes i have nothing but time [10:53] this is just a hobbie [10:54] nice [10:54] retired millionaire? [10:54] hehe [10:54] erm something like that [10:54] brb [10:55] does it do everything online magespawn ? [10:55] through a web browser, and telnet [10:55] hi simeon [10:55] the is a pdf manual here http://is.gd/er7W27 [10:57] and the amazon pictures here http://is.gd/quYcc3 [10:59] trender: do you have the wired only version? [11:01] it says wireless too and pppoe [11:02] to get ubuntu running on that you would need the arm version not the standard iso [11:03] there are two Kilos one with wireless [11:03] ah [11:05] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm here is the download page [11:05] i wonder if the wireless one will do 3g [11:07] the wireless is for wireless lan or WiFi [11:07] here is the link for the arm install instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Server/Install [11:09] if trender sets this up http://105.225.161.189:8090/dyndns then you can access it from anyware all the time [11:11] looks like a nice little server that [11:11] hi Georgl [11:11] hi Kilos [11:12] yeah it does magespawn [11:12] aybe with tweaking the wireless one will do 3g [11:12] or with a buntu install [11:13] you might be able to run it through one of the usb ports on the back [11:13] i actually saw a command on how to connect a server to 3g other day but dont ask me where anymore [11:13] yeah with usb it might work [11:14] install the ubuntu arm and then use sakis3g to connect, the square one could then handle the routing for the network and teh dyndns would still work too [11:14] s/teh/the [11:15] i dunno whats an ubuntu arm [11:17] superfly: did you look at this thing? [11:24] Kilos arm is a type of processor like intel pentium [11:24] ah [11:24] ty [11:24] that version of ubuntu is made for that type of processor [11:24] and they use a different version of ubuntu [11:24] oic [11:25] different types of processor do things differently so the software has to be cutomised for it [11:26] no changes to the interface AFAIK all under the bonnet [11:26] lekker small server though [11:27] Kilos: at what? [11:28] whew lotsa scroll back superfly [11:28] http://105.225.161.189:8090 [11:29] admin an squareone [11:29] superfly^ [11:33] ok im back [11:33] sorry okes busy day this side [11:33] np [11:34] anyone have any ideas about the lunchbox :) ? [11:34] magespawn: interesting [11:34] linuchbox with linux sarmies [11:35] as magespawn said try install from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Server/Install [11:35] ah that looks promising [11:35] designed for arm cores [11:35] and get a ubuntu cd and install ubuntu alongside your windows [11:36] oh yea [11:36] trender are going to sell them here? [11:36] then you can use xchat to come here [11:36] erm i dont know at present [11:36] first i need to get the apps installed [11:36] but yea will likely sell them at some stage [11:37] oh you first want to install everything then sell working boxes? [11:37] yea yea [11:37] cool keep us posted [11:37] will do so [11:37] would it cost less than a raspberry pi? [11:37] most linux peeps will install their own software [11:38] what a rasberry pic costing now ? [11:38] pi [11:38] yeah you might wanna sell some without going to the trouble first [11:38] $35 [11:38] can rasberry pi make a nas box ? [11:38] or there is a site here doing it in rands [11:38] no this box im the olnt importer for these products at repsent [11:39] only [11:39] yes but you buy almost everything seperate [11:39] was talking about the pi [11:39] so what do they cost? [11:40] raspberry pi can do almost anything, it was designed to be a learning platform [11:40] ah yes ive heard about rasberry pi [11:42] sorry im flippen running around like a bluass fly [11:43] rasberry pi have a HDD interface ?? [11:43] Why, hello again. [11:45] hi confluency [11:45] no, PIs have USB [11:45] http://www.pifactory.co.za/ [11:45] there aren't many ARM boards with SATA, but they are available [11:45] cool man [11:46] i saw one somwhere brb [11:47] somebody posted a link here [11:47] i spose the students will like the PI [11:48] everybody likes them [11:48] ya cool toys [11:49] i dont have time to turn the PI into meaningfull toys though [11:49] although would very much like to [11:49] i will order some fro the students [11:49] for [12:00] trender: are all of your squareone devices you have in need of intalling/reloading the firmware? [12:01] erm [12:01] the firmware is not really available [12:01] itian are not responding [12:01] ok [12:01] its mostly in need of the hard drive image = software packages [12:02] like samba and apache [12:02] i dont know if i need to install a real linux OS per se [12:02] may i look around and change some settings? [12:02] it has an embedded linux OS [12:03] yes play with it by all means [12:03] ok [12:03] thank you [12:03] thats why its here :) [12:03] you can use the telnet as well [12:08] looks like you could use the preconfigered image here [12:08] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ [12:08] on your system here http://105.225.161.189:8090/system/conf_setting [12:09] interesting [12:09] that part kinda boggles me for now [12:09] not sure which one it would be though [12:10] you and me both :) [12:10] this is a new experience for me [12:11] here is some more info [12:14] there are three different ones, the first two are about 498MB each are img.gz, so probable need to be extracted first before you use them [12:14] not too sure so confirm it first [12:16] the box automatically does the extractions [12:16] i dont controll that process at all [12:16] i just point to tar.gz images [12:21] the person who comes up with the most creative way of "fixing" this squareone box can have a free box [12:23] its just a nice playtoy at present :) [12:26] trender: do you teach? i see you say students [12:27] yes i do teach [12:27] wb Jabberwocky_ [12:27] students at KZn mostly i pay for thier practical credits courses [12:27] ah [12:28] i only take one at a time...i dont have a big place at present [12:29] each student costs me about 10k for 2 months [12:30] else they never gonna find work [12:30] the job market is hard [12:30] whew [12:30] nobody wants to employ students [12:30] hey trender [12:30] yo man [12:30] even qualified peeps battle for work nowadays [12:30] you are right [12:31] got any Linux admins? [12:31] everyone needs to eat [12:31] trender: Vince-0 is a durbanite [12:31] ok cool mate [12:31] nah linux is just a hobby for me at present [12:31] one of the lug guys [12:31] great :) [12:31] this lug is new to me [12:32] i wasnt sure where you okes was hiding :) [12:32] durbanlinux.org.za [12:32] i will like to do some linux projects though [12:32] as i get up to speed [12:33] im more an old school guy asmfreak etc [12:33] enjoyed the asm coding [12:33] back in the day :P [12:34] atmel pic etc [12:34] even pcs [12:34] but that was years back [12:35] i dont do much dev work anymore [12:35] hehe you also a ballie? [12:35] yea man those days i still had hair and teeth :) [12:35] what do you teach to students? [12:35] lol sounds familiar [12:36] practical elecronics programming mostly [12:36] depends what thier credits call for [12:36] their [12:36] we used to have a spell checker but he got busy [12:37] nice! join KZN house4hack [12:37] im fairly flexible [12:37] kzn.house4hack.co.za [12:37] :) [12:37] ah my typing is very bad [12:37] and this vista box is very slow [12:38] of all the versions of windows you could be running... [12:39] hehe [12:39] yes i know [12:39] im just to lazy to fix this box [12:39] lol just install ubuntu [12:39] have to much work here [12:39] fixes all windows probs [12:39] yea you are right [12:39] will get there :) [12:40] install take 25 mins and then an hour or so updating/upgrading [12:40] small steps..for an old dog [12:40] lol how old are you if i may ask? [12:40] eish dont ask [12:40] more than 62? [12:41] lets just say i witnessed the birth of the pc [12:41] nah not so bad [12:41] aw i dunno when that was [12:41] then you younger than me and im not even a pc person [12:42] ah well im not a dinosaur :P [12:42] was a mechanic till i was given a p2 a few years back [12:42] so you reinvesnted yerself ? [12:42] reinvented [12:43] nice [12:43] and since then have struggled through win 95 98 xp till i was told there is a virus free OS available called linux [12:43] hehe yes indeed [12:43] the road less travelled [12:44] and by chance came on ubuntu from a neighbour who had a copy of 8.04 [12:44] ah ive wanted to do this for many years [12:44] ive just not really had the time [12:44] to many pans in other fires [12:44] battled in the beginning till i was informed by the fly to come here and its been wonderful since [12:45] yea yea this is a good place to start i think [12:45] ya but half or more of your time is used up sukkeling with winstinks [12:45] the ##linux channel is to hectic [12:45] i prefer a smaller crowd [12:45] yeah this is the most friendly helpful channel of them all [12:45] get stepped on less :P [12:45] and big brains here [12:46] yea i bet [12:46] ubuntu dev guys and python experts and lots more [12:46] and chanserv lives here as well :P [12:46] lol [12:46] are you here with your browser [12:47] no no a mirc client [12:47] ah [12:47] so i can log and digest later [12:47] us older folks need to log the brain gets to full :) [12:48] lol i often have to scroll back and see who said what but mostly thats major work [12:48] ya [12:48] i prefer one on one chats really [12:48] but people think yer gay then :P [12:49] or want cybersex [12:49] etc [12:49] i dunno mirc but the irc clients like xchat and quassel have a pm function [12:49] wait ill try you [12:49] yea yea i got private chat [12:49] mirc is very strong mature client [12:49] and oh so bloated [12:50] yes very bloated [12:50] the very nature of its scripting is a double edged sword [12:50] you can get xchat for win too [12:50] used to be free [12:51] better the devil you know ;) [12:51] maybe they also want $49 nowadays [12:51] at this stage anyway [12:54] Vince-0: is that a channel or a site? [12:54] ey [12:54] both are sites [12:54] one looks a bit old school [12:54] but that's peter's from house4hack [12:58] cannot load http://kzn.house4hack.co.za/ [13:04] Vince-0: fix it [13:05] might not be broken [13:05] lol [13:08] ya doesn't look like its online [14:11] hey HawkiesZA [14:12] just watched the LTG Chai fm episode [14:12] Helloski [14:12] Aha. Which one? [14:12] 126 [14:15] nice to see 'mainstream' recognition [14:15] Ah, yeah. My last one for a bit. 125 was also at Chai, though that was somewhat unplanned. I see 125 hasn't been uploaded though. Heads will roll for this! [14:17] right lol [14:20] What'd you think? [14:20] you moving to cape town for work? [14:20] i liked it [14:21] haha. Already here. [14:21] sound was very good [14:21] And content? :P [14:21] that does not vary in quality much, if at all [14:24] heh. So either decent or you're a sucker for punishment [14:24] I'll take it as a good thing [14:24] :D [14:25] i am also married (11 years) with two kids, so maybe the second one is more accurate [14:26] hi fender [14:27] sjoe fender and trender [14:27] welcome to ubuntu-za [14:27] arg ya [14:27] i go get sheep [14:27] need to kill the spook [14:27] ok kilos take it easy mate [14:28] had a windows moment :P [14:29] ah gees now wonder [14:29] no wonder [14:30] the linux people are telling me windos has exploits lol === fender is now known as trender [14:30] HawkiesZA: but yes content is good [14:31] ok gosh im back [14:31] so its hack the new guy time hehe [14:31] how so ? [14:32] i see this network makes you very vulnerable [14:32] you mean your squareone? [14:32] magespawn, kewl. Well, if you have comments/feedback/nerdrage, feel free to let 'em know. If it's the first two, I'll be happy to pass on the message [14:32] no no even my laptop here [14:32] yer ip is very exposed on this network [14:33] nice in some ways not in others [14:33] when you connect to irc it shows your external ip address unless you get a cloak [14:33] yes i figured that out now :) [14:34] i was just knocked offline a sec ago [14:34] you mean from the channel or in general? [14:34] moral of the story dont use windoze in a lunux channel lol [14:34] no no in general [14:35] nope , morale is dont use windows anywhere [14:35] wonder what happened? [14:35] general DOS [14:35] or something tamer [14:35] not an issue really :) [14:35] there are a few of use here who use windows fro various reasons [14:36] yea yea [14:36] but this kind of network tends to invite the port scanner kiddies and exploiters [14:37] okes with to much time and not enough clue :) [14:37] thats so 20yrs ago IMO [14:37] the new networks cloak yer ip automatically [14:38] well some do some dont [14:39] indeed, not sure about the reasoning behind the non automatic cloaking [14:40] yea something to do with file sharing [14:40] dcc services i guess [14:41] its better to be exposed in some ways i guess if you know what yer doing [14:41] but this laptop is a bit of a flake [14:47] * trender yawns [14:48] linux makes me tired just thinking about it [14:48] its a big step [14:51] trender: there is lots of info online via google, and peeps here know a lot [14:52] later all home time [14:53] ok cool mate [14:53] i will stick around and soak up the possiblities [14:53] trender: its easier than you think [14:53] later mage [14:53] its just the first tep mate [14:53] grrr [14:53] magespawn: [14:53] lol [14:53] first step is the hardest [14:54] you going about it the hard way thats why [14:54] hehe [14:54] yea mabee [14:55] i will get the idea eventually [14:55] its just a foreign concept at present [14:56] how them sheep mate....baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad ?? [14:57] sorry i had to do that :) [14:57] i cant imagine looking after sheep [14:57] i would love a farm though [14:58] and i will buy one soon [14:58] but not for annimals [15:00] hehe [15:00] they fine today, came half way home on their own [15:00] just need a big stock to encourage them ? [15:01] stok even === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [15:03] lol ya but its getting the stok behind them thats tiriyng [15:03] tiring [15:03] other wise they go further [15:05] :) [15:05] i try not to eat anything with a heartbeat [15:05] you are supposed to shorten them some first [15:05] then no heartbeat [15:06] meat causes cancer and diseases [15:06] eish i forgot to announce tonights meet till now on the lists [15:06] vegetable reverse diseases [15:07] the former is not acceptable to me [15:07] trender: if you are gonna get the guts to install ubuntu then you must join our mailing list [15:07] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [15:07] ive got the guts allright [15:08] just working on some many projects right now [15:08] need to focus on the money taps mostly [15:08] i have an extravagant wife :( [15:08] but you may join now anyway [15:09] maybe some of the list guys will look into your toy as well [15:09] lol [15:09] yea yea im sure they will [15:09] some oke will end up getting one for free [15:09] i dont mind giving a few boxes away [15:10] what do them things cost anyway [15:10] i know people will like to play with it [15:10] when it was released about 5k i think [15:10] whew [15:10] but thats 7 years back [15:10] as bad as modern cell fones [15:10] i suppose its really what you make of it [15:11] suppose you use it to the max it adds value [15:11] and space [15:11] but if you just need a print server mabee it wont make sence [15:11] the fly uses a P2 as his server [15:12] i had some guy give me R5k for 1 unit without question [15:12] bbut i have no idea what hes gonna use it for [15:12] in fact he wanted to pay 12k [15:12] i told him it wasnt ready [15:13] guess some okes know what they want [15:13] personally i dont know what these can do as yet [15:14] its just a smart looking brick to me [15:14] whew [15:14] wb maiatoday [15:14] he just wanted a NAS box [15:14] dont forget tonights meeting [15:14] i didnt even know what NAS box was :P [15:15] i still dont [15:15] just knew thes where cool toys to have [15:15] lol [15:15] imported 140kg of these machines [15:15] Kilos, I have a regular class on mondays from 7:15 to 8:30, I tried to wiggle out of it but I can't. The class used to be on a Tuesday but they moved it [15:15] took 31 days to get here [15:15] oh my maiatoday and whos gonna give info on your agenda item [15:16] 2 months if you inclde tha blerry logistics [15:17] paid what amounts to R200/unit for the squareone servers [15:17] or 20k for this batch [15:17] ah thats not too bad [15:17] nah its ok [15:17] the logistics cost more then the items [15:18] as it often does [15:19] these boxes only cost R50/unit i guess [15:19] i cleared them out [15:19] now they just got the second generation boxes left [15:20] those have wifi [15:20] and usb [15:20] etc etc [15:20] ah [15:20] you shoulda takem them rather [15:20] mind you for peeps with adsl its ok [15:20] ah yes but those would have been hectically expensive [15:21] ah [15:21] maybe its possible to upgrade [15:21] erm not sure really [15:21] perhaps you can [15:21] add on bits and pieces [15:21] but the hardware is different [15:21] yes you are right [15:21] the sata interface is a start [15:22] like a usb hub and so on [15:22] erm yes [15:22] im gonna look into mods [15:22] evrything has usb today [15:22] i was offered 100k for this batch [15:23] but i declined [15:23] mabee a stupid move i shall wait and see [15:23] sometimes you take the cash and run [15:24] other times you leverage the tech [15:24] lol [15:24] for instance this bow with a webserver and installed website may add value [15:24] box [15:25] i have okes who want to take this to the next level [15:25] im just in no hurry to roll out a bad egg [15:25] i rather try to figure this out slowly [15:27] webserver plus fileserver nas would be cool [15:28] i dont know yet how big a hard disk its gonna support yet [15:28] so i havnt been out shopping yet [15:28] and i need 100 drives as well [15:28] so thats gonna hurt [15:29] ouch and ide no longer made here [15:29] maybe china will havw still [15:29] well im gonna convert to sata [15:29] yes china still has stock [15:30] but i rather go to sata if i can make that reliable [15:30] ide technically is more stable [15:30] that adapter works well [15:30] i hope so mate [15:30] even a pc dont know the diffs [15:30] ive used one before [15:31] but the adapter fell off the sata drive and it was toasted [15:31] serial bus is a funny annimal [15:32] oh the one ive seen has a cable from the ide plug to the sata plug so its flexible [15:32] ya i think some work both ways even [15:33] sata>>ide and ide>>sata [15:33] ive got one of those but it then plugs into a usb port [15:33] but from what ive heard the techiese dont like those adapters [15:33] ah thats neat man [15:34] makes a usb drive minus enclosure [15:34] yip [15:34] very usefull [15:36] the rasberry Pi looks interesting as well [15:36] ive been looking at this for a long time now [15:37] the guys love them [15:38] yea the gpio make them very versatile [15:38] gpio? [15:38] general purpose io ports [15:38] ah [15:38] the ports that are exposed to the real world [15:39] like for displays and keybords etc [15:40] rasberry pi can do some hectic stuff with ease [15:40] a devellopers toy of course [15:40] great for students [15:40] nicely priced [15:41] but im not gonna make a burglar alarm on it lol [15:42] lol [15:42] mabee a remote coke machine that disciminates its customers [15:42] discriminates even [15:42] give 2 cokes to the girls 1 to the boys ;) [15:42] and take phone numbers ;) [15:43] with web based invertory controll [15:44] inventory rather [15:45] brb i need to check the supper is gonna happen... [16:22] o/ aloha [16:22] hi oom Kilos [16:23] hi nuvolari [16:23] is jy en apie reg vir vanaand [16:26] ek hoop so oom Kilos :P [16:26] apie stoel mos? [16:26] ya [16:26] Oh hai nuvolari [16:27] oh hai Trixar_za [16:27] you been good? [16:28] * nuvolari prods kbmonkey [16:29] gosh, i need to go for new glasses [16:32] hes not here yet [16:32] lets hope [16:32] I've been alright [16:34] yo Trixar_za [16:34] hi Meesterarend [16:34] Hey guys [16:34] kilos [16:35] Hey Kilos and Meesterarend [16:37] hey Trixar_za [16:46] fefe [16:49] oh hi Meesterarend [16:49] gaan dit wel? [16:49] hey nuvolari [16:50] jip [16:50] besig en als [16:51] besig is goed [16:51] ja [16:51] maar maandae is soms die ergste [16:57] Hi all [16:57] hi theblazehen [16:59] hi theblazehen [16:59] Meeting at 19:30 right? [17:01] yip theblazehen [17:01] thanks [17:08] * Kilos goes to eat [17:09] evening people [17:10] hello [17:10] lo kb [17:10] oh hi kbmonkey_ [17:10] hi trender [17:10] * nuvolari tips hat [17:10] hi peeps [17:10] hmm, seems I am logged in twice. brb... [17:10] if you want to check out the linux toys its online now [17:11] dunno if you okes seen it yet [17:11] hello :] [17:11] http://105.225.161.189:8090 admin:squareone [17:12] the telnet is also open [17:12] have a look play around with it etc [17:12] what linux toys is that trender ? [17:12] its a lunchbox server called squareone [17:13] with linuc on a arm41 core [17:13] linux [17:13] a small all in one linux box === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg [17:14] first tim eI heard of a lunchbox server. I like that flipout keyboard [17:14] try resist the urge to format the disk :) [17:15] the telnet is open as well to play with it [17:15] port23 [17:15] brb eating... [17:17] good evening all [17:17] hello SmilyBorg [17:17] hello nuvolari [17:17] hello Meesterarend [17:18] ah, niantic approved some of my portals. too bad i don't play ingress anymore, need a larger device than a nexus one. [17:19] fyi the meeting minutes are at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/560/detail/ [17:19] if anyone wants to add any items [17:20] good evening [17:21] just in time for the meeting i see [17:21] Hey all [17:21] hi Meesterarend [17:21] hello charl [17:21] hi kbmonkey [17:21] im here, between braai tongs [17:21] *sniff *sniff [17:21] hoi [17:22] hello Vince-0 - how about some braai mushrooms? :] [17:22] hello queery [17:22] veges are starter [17:22] ok back [17:23] hate being sick [17:23] feel better soon queery [17:23] thanx charl [17:24] hi kbmonkey SmilyBorg charl queery [17:24] anyone figure out how to this linux squareone lunchbox server effectively can have a free one [17:24] how to ifx [17:24] hello Kilos [17:24] fix [17:24] you ready monkey? [17:24] grr [17:25] are you ready Kilos ? [17:25] trender, What do you mean? [17:25] I am :] [17:25] its your show kbmonkey [17:25] hi Kilos [17:25] we still have 5 minutes? [17:25] im parking off tonight [17:26] the aquareone linux server is missing application image files to make it work right [17:26] yip [17:26] trender, ok. BTW telnet wont work [17:26] telnet works best on a hyperterminal xp client [17:26] telnet is working [17:26] oh. [17:27] if the telnet not working its yer client thats not lekker [17:28] some brighspark linux oke who cracks this sqaureone box gets to keep one [17:28] trender, Let me have a look at this then [17:28] im open for suggestions as well [17:28] hi oom Kilos [17:28] go right ahead mate [17:28] Maaz, coffee on [17:28] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [17:29] Maaz, coffee for all [17:29] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [17:29] not staying long [17:29] feeling horrid [17:29] sugar? gimme the *beans*! [17:30] :O [17:30] Macoffee please [17:30] need coffee [17:30] ai! [17:30] Maaz: coffee please [17:30] Kilos: Yessir [17:30] I'm going to put the kettle on [17:30] * nuvolari sings 'I wanna be a simba chippie...' [17:31] kbmonkey: time [17:32] roger that [17:32] Coffee's ready for queery and Kilos! [17:32] Maaz: danke [17:32] Bitteschön [17:33] Maaz, dankie [17:33] Groot plesier queery my vriend [17:33] Maaz: botbitcoin [17:33] nuvolari: Huh? [17:33] Maaz, start meeting about Monthly IRC meet 15 April 2013 [17:33] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:34] Maaz, topic Welcoming and Introduction [17:34] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [17:34] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [17:34] nuvolari: Sure [17:34] Maaz: I am Miles Sharpe [17:34] Kilos: Okay [17:34] Maaz, I am Wesley Werner [17:34] kbmonkey: Done [17:34] Maaz I am Jeandre Henderson [17:34] theblazehen: Alrighty [17:34] Maaz: I am Una Karlsen [17:34] SmilyBorg: Alrighty [17:34] oh hi SmilyBorg [17:34] Maaz, i am Dewald [17:34] queery: Okay [17:35] hi nuvolari [17:35] Hello and welcome everyone. You can see today's agenda at [17:35] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/560/detail/ [17:35] ohi [17:35] can I make a request [17:35] I'm glad to see all of you here :] [17:35] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:35] superfly: Righto [17:35] sure queery [17:36] can we move events to the front after admin [17:36] nuvolari, ping [17:36] i really don't think I can concentrate [17:36] kbmonkey: pong! [17:37] Maaz: I am Frans de Waal [17:37] Meesterarend: Yessir [17:37] I don't see why not, unless anyone objects? [17:37] sorry, I really just need to get into bed [17:38] well properly [17:38] Maaz: i am Charl van Niekerk [17:38] charl: Righto [17:39] inetpro: ping [17:39] okay let's start then [17:39] Maaz, topic Review previous minutes [17:39] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [17:39] these are at this auspicious url: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-03-18-17-34-02.txt [17:39] Maaz: I am Brenton Scott [17:39] Trixar_za: Sure [17:40] Sorry, I was feeling left out [17:40] We spoke about Ubuntu+1 development, I'm not sure if we have anything to add this time round? [17:40] welcome Trixar_za :] [17:40] no CD's [17:41] so let's focus on the agreeds. Release parties. we can discuss those in events? [17:41] yip [17:41] yes, heard there's no CD's [17:41] kbmonkey: you gotta start using maaz to shorten links [17:41] we didn't start planning one for Durbs yet [17:41] is lionthinker around? [17:41] maaz can do that [17:41] nope [17:41] no but was hoping to catch you tonight nuvolari and we can start initial ideas :] [17:42] Release parties are held long before we get any cd's any way [17:42] okies [17:42] SmilyBorg, might be keen too, we will keep everyone informed [17:42] May 4th would be a good time [17:42] yup, I'm keen [17:42] nuvolari: Star Wars day (and mrs_fly_'s birthday) [17:43] running the beta on 2 machines aready and it's nice [17:43] Rad, okay Lionthinker was talking about Ogg Camp ZA, they're not around so wee will catch up with that later. [17:43] superfly: the 4th? [17:43] uhuh [17:43] wow, an eventful day! [17:43] may 4th is the day before my birthday [17:43] looks like a party weekend! [17:43] ill be in knysna with the boyfriend [17:44] for pink loerie [17:44] This just in: Ubuntu site has an updated design: http://www.ubuntu.com/ [17:44] anybody wants to add anything for previous minutes? I'll move to the next topic: Events... [17:44] not me [17:44] hi georgelappies [17:44] tell the bot who you are [17:45] next is admin [17:45] * nuvolari checks out oeboentoe.com [17:45] and anouncements [17:45] ah true that queery, thanks. been a long Monday ;) [17:45] no worries [17:45] Maaz, topic Administrativia & Announcements [17:45] Current Topic: Administrativia & Announcements [17:45] I want to announce that this topic name is too long [17:46] lol [17:46] lol [17:46] Agreed [17:46] on a good month it takes longer to type administrativia than the topic itself [17:47] yeah just admin is good [17:47] Also, administrative wise I'ld like soembody else to chair next meeting, but we can decide that at the end. [17:47] change it quick before the pro gets here [17:47] hi Kilos [17:47] anything else to add to admin? [17:48] nothing from my side, the floor is open for announcements from anyone here :] [17:48] kbmonkey: oh, the za. mirror seems to be down at the moment [17:48] use either ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za or ubuntu.mirror.ufs.ac.za [17:48] and mirror.ac.za [17:49] queery: mirror.ac.za is the one that is down [17:49] or ftp.sun.ac.za [17:49] yeah i battled to get twitter in pidgin [17:49] changed to the uct one [17:49] thanks for the notice, good to know. [17:49] webafrica one is also ok [17:49] but they are idiots [17:50] any iburst people around? :P [17:50] not me [17:50] okay next up... [17:51] oh anybody shout if I move too fast :> [17:51] Maaz, topic Events [17:51] Current Topic: Events [17:52] Release parties! 13.04 is due and KZN peeps are keen for some fun. [17:52] and an Ubuntu Hour in June [17:53] tumbleweed: you not here ? [17:53] which I will be attending :-D [17:53] which I want to organize if it's OK [17:53] my calcurse shows 2 June is our Ubuntu hour. we still need to decide where. [17:53] The fly is attending [17:53] :P [17:53] awesome [17:54] hmm, Umhlanga or Ballito? [17:54] nuvolari, contact me if you need any help organizing or infos [17:54] okidokie thanks kbmonkey [17:54] would 27th be to quick to do a release party in jhb [17:54] well gauteng [17:55] nuvolari: just let me know when and where and I'll do some advertising via the DBN-LUG sites [17:56] thanks SmilyBorg :) we'll post on the mail list, if you like the details we can fwd you that too [17:56] the Ubuntu-ZA list* [17:56] sweet [17:56] awesome, thanks SmilyBorg [17:58] we can guess a preliminary release party date, the 4th is out, so the 11th, Sat in May ? [17:58] this can still change [17:58] there will be a jhb/pta one just don't know when [17:58] oh and if anyone needs lifts in the Durban region I can help out [17:59] those dates are good for me [17:59] queery, will you post to the list to get interested partyers for JHB/PTA? [18:00] and nuvolari could handle KZN? [18:00] kbmonkey: sure [18:00] it's already being discussed privately among the ones who will be organising, but will try [18:00] I'll take charge of bananas and cakes [18:01] that's fine queery, keep us updated :) [18:01] will do [18:01] Maaz, agreed Organize release parties for each region (nuvolari & queery) [18:01] Agreed: Organize release parties for each region (nuvolari & queery) [18:02] where are the cape guys [18:03] the Ubuntu hour is before the next irc meet, I'll put it in the agenda for completeness. [18:03] I'm in the cape [18:03] kbmonkey: will find out from DLUG when most people will be available [18:03] superfly: you all alone there [18:03] There used to be more of us. I think the rest of them may have killed the rest off [18:03] Kilos: HawkiesZA is now down here with me, I'll drag him along to whatever I go to :-P [18:03] Maaz, agreed Ubuntu hour KZN possibly on the 11th May [18:03] they used to lead the party and UH things [18:03] Agreed: Ubuntu hour KZN possibly on the 11th May [18:03] cool superfly [18:04] methinks maia gotta start sorting things out there [18:04] she's too scarce nowadyays [18:05] let's get interested people during the next week, then throw out dates and see who's compatible. [18:05] nowadays too [18:06] it may be a good idea to post the minutes summary on the G+ page [18:06] hey Vince-0 you here? [18:06] just lurking [18:06] * kbmonkey will need to fix the car battery this week [18:07] ai! [18:07] Okay, that is all for events I can think of our side [18:07] ack, the corporate year took its toll [18:08] we're not hardly as active as before [18:08] yeah, I'm not aware of any interesting events [18:08] oh wait [18:08] the DLUG hangout [18:08] I think it's this week [18:08] just hang on [18:09] oh yeah, that! I'd love to actually attend one of those [18:09] the last dates that vince posted were for the 21st [18:09] though might need to move the the following thursday, making it the 25th [18:10] I haven't heard anything further [18:10] 8ta acting up [18:10] just hangi in there [18:10] ai! [18:10] I feel your pain nuvolari ;p [18:11] and so slow here [18:11] how about freeze-frame webcam chats for us slowers? ;) [18:11] hmm, oh, there wasn't a formal event on google+ yet [18:11] let me just find Vince-0's mail [18:11] not yet [18:12] there was just a post to the mailing list so far [18:12] I have same here on cellc [18:12] Vince-0, you will let us know when the next DLug hangout happens? [18:12] za mobile providers are getting bad [18:13] but then I'm using vodacom branded modem...it might make a difference [18:13] most of them are huawei under the branding [18:13] The 21st of April is a Sunday. I may move this to the following Thursday if there are no objections. I will make the G+ event a week beforehand and check RSVPs. [18:13] Any volunteers who want to take on a subject or category will be appreciated and the notes need some work. Here are the subjects I've come across so far: [18:13] - vince [18:14] hes asleep methinks [18:14] he's at the braai [18:14] oh ya [18:14] link to the topic: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/dbnlug/wJN0SCx6jDE/discussion [18:14] okay let's keep an eye on that, thanks nuvolari :) [18:15] sorry fell asleep [18:15] ok im off [18:15] gnite [18:15] o/ cheerz [18:15] cheers queery [18:15] gn queery, get well [18:15] get better [18:15] sorry that I am late [18:15] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:15] inetpro: Yessir [18:15] wb inetpro [18:15] thanx [18:15] wb inetpro. [18:16] fyi the meeting minutes are at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/560/detail/ [18:16] oh hi inetpro [18:16] inetpro: where is maias topic [18:17] hope we didnt miss it [18:17] for the DLug hangouts, join the community page and you should get notified... [18:17] https://plus.google.com/communities/113353161612042062131 [18:17] just in case anybody is watching us ;) [18:17] had to put out a small fire [18:18] Kilos: it's still there at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/560/detail/ [18:18] you braai in the veld Vince-0 ? [18:18] save us some braai mielies! [18:18] inetpro: maia cant make it so its your baby to sort [18:19] :-/ craving sosatie [18:19] in the bos [18:19] lol [18:19] * Kilos waits for ai! [18:19] okay, back on track.. we discussed events, anyone wants to add anything before I move on... [18:20] aw magespawn not here even [18:20] teched is coming up lol [18:20] inetpro, Vince-0, we decided to plan kzn ubuntu hour and release party, and jhb/pta too [18:20] kbmonkey: done [18:21] when is teched and how much is entrance? it's been a few years since I went [18:21] that was rhetorical ;) [18:22] meh, site is metro style - R6k [18:22] the most fun thing at teched is bluescreening their workstations [18:22] 16- 19 april but that price is a nogo [18:23] I'd go to a Linuxed [18:23] hey that name works well [18:24] Maaz, topic Ubuntu+1 development status and community feedback [18:24] Current Topic: Ubuntu+1 development status and community feedback [18:24] so I hear there is not going to be CD's distributed [18:25] not for 13.04 at least. only for LTS [18:25] I guess it will make newcomers start with LTS mostly [18:26] there's no mention of a release date, only April. [18:27] either way we can have those parties [18:28] install parties are for sharing it [18:29] what is the "miscellaneous" agenda item meant for? [18:29] that for items yet to be added? :p [18:30] bbl === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [18:31] Maaz: I am Karl Wortmann [18:31] Cantide: Sure [18:31] 'o' [18:31] I missed the meeting! T-Tv [18:31] hello Cantide :) [18:31] whew [18:31] one more topic left Cantide [18:32] hello :) [18:32] Maaz, topic Ubuntu diversity postcards [18:32] Current Topic: Ubuntu diversity postcards [18:32] thats the one [18:32] for this one see http://philipballew.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/showcase-the-diversity-of-the-ubuntu-community [18:32] kbmonkey: miscellaneous is anything else worth mentioning [18:33] inetpro, like waffles? waffles are certainly worth mentioning. [18:33] lol [18:33] lol [18:33] kbmonkey: I had dinner thank you :-) [18:34] * Cantide should send a postcard [18:34] we had waffles the other night [18:35] nuvolari, for our UH we can get some postcards sorted too, like an activity [18:36] kbmonkey: ooh, that's an idea! [18:36] charl: go look so you know what to do [18:36] what about 'realtime production' [18:36] taking photo's at the event and edit them right there into something usable [18:36] it says a postcard of a picture where we live. if possible we can snap a photo of us in a scenic setting [18:36] social editing [18:37] oh [18:37] btw, nuvolari hasn't figured how to copy and paste in ubuntu? [18:37] failing that just preprinted ones will do [18:37] inetpro: eh? [18:37] good idea nuvolari [18:38] let's GIMP Tux in with us in the photo [18:38] green screen and all :P [18:38] nuvolari: it's as easy as double-click on a word like administrativia to copy and then middle-click to paste [18:39] lol told you [18:39] inetpro: I'm sure it's quicker to type than navigating a mouse [18:39] * nuvolari is quite anti-mouse [18:39] :P [18:39] lol [18:39] * inetpro forgot that he might be using cli only [18:40] but even with the cli only it can be done with gnu screen [18:40] administrativia is a terrible word [18:40] people spit fire at me for not using a mouse that often [18:40] my hand gets sore if i use a mouse to much [18:40] okay lets finish off the meeting then we can debate the better qualities of keyboard navigation :] [18:40] can't say the same for a keyboard '-' [18:40] +1 [18:40] sorry kbmonkey :-) [18:40] too much * [18:41] it's debatable, but you can navigate several times faster using the keyboard and using shortcuts [18:41] Maaz, agreed Send postcards to the Ubuntu diversity project [18:41] Agreed: Send postcards to the Ubuntu diversity project [18:41] Maaz, topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [18:41] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [18:42] I'll be around [18:42] Can I ask you nuvolari to chair? [18:42] if nothing happens to me [18:42] * inetpro trying to catch up [18:42] sure kbmonkey [18:42] we accept nuvolari but that dont mean you stay away again kbmonkey [18:42] I'll be around, I'd just like to swap out the roles a little [18:43] :)) [18:43] hehe [18:43] what he actually means is that he's tired of this business :P [18:43] ty for a good job kbmonkey [18:43] out of interest, anyone else ever thought to give the chair a try? [18:43] me, [18:43] think it's a good way to build interest [18:44] yar, need commands list [18:44] you can /msg maaz help [18:44] vince is a hosting-guru [18:44] or /msg maaz help meet [18:44] I have a radio personality/face [18:45] agreed! doing it pretty well :D [18:45] * nuvolari only sits around and tries to look pretty [18:45] so decide already [18:45] lol [18:45] +1 for Vince-0 as chair [18:45] +1 [18:46] "1 [18:46] k [18:46] err, +1 [18:46] yeah if there no fires in the area [18:46] Vince-0, what do you say? we'll be around for backup if you need [18:46] lol [18:46] still, Maaz doesn't know what I'm talking about [18:46] anyone else? [18:46] oh, and someone needs to give Vince-0 meeting rights with maaz [18:46] not sure who to ask [18:46] done deal [18:47] man Maaz [18:47] lol [18:47] yikes, my lag is >30s [18:47] I'm sure we can get Maaz obedient in a month [18:47] Maaz, agreed Vince-0 to chair the next meeting [18:47] Agreed: Vince-0 to chair the next meeting [18:48] Maaz's meeting documentation is not coming up [18:48] if something comes up Vince-0 let us know, no problem [18:48] dont be late Vince-0 [18:48] K [18:48] nearly said vinnie [18:48] hehe [18:48] I think its about time Kilos tries it too some time ;) [18:48] nope [18:48] mmm [18:49] okay I'll end off by saying the next meeting is on 20 May 2013 [18:49] thanks everyone, it was a blast [18:49] ty kbmonkey [18:49] thanks kbmonkey for running the meeting! [18:49] kbmonkey: thanks [18:49] bit overtime but anyway [18:50] 80 mins [18:50] let's blame the lag [18:50] Maaz, end meeting [18:50] hehe [18:50] Meeting Ended [18:50] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-04-15-17-33-52.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-04-15-17-33-52.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-04-15-17-33-52.html [18:50] Maaz, help meet [18:50] kbmonkey: Take minutes of an IRC Meeting. You can use it like this: [18:50] (start | end) meeting [about ] [18:50] <Maaz> I am <True Name> [18:50] <Maaz> topic <topic> [18:50] <Maaz> (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement> [18:50] <Maaz> minutes so far [18:50] <Maaz> meeting title is <title> [18:51] <kbmonkey> I can't recall who set Maaz up... will find out [18:51] <Kilos> the crash kid [18:51] <superfly> anyone else heard of GoMetro? [18:51] <kbmonkey> so nuvolari I setup i3wm and must say it's too awesome [18:51] <kbmonkey> it handles dialogue boxes and notifications beautifully [18:52] <inetpro> my 8ta is absolutely horrible today [18:52] <nuvolari> ooh, maybe I should try that some time [18:52] <nuvolari> xmonad handled dialogs terribly [18:52] <Kilos> yip here too inetpro [18:52] <nuvolari> my 8ta is not horrible, but there were better days [18:52] * nuvolari googles GoMetro [18:52] <Kilos> for coupla weeks now [18:52] <kbmonkey> yeah, and snapwm also kept crashing my wm. no problems yet after a week [18:53] <kbmonkey> you can tell it to open certain windows on specific desktops automatically [18:53] <kbmonkey> and it includes sexy i3lock [18:53] <nuvolari> Warning: fopen(http://41.160.59.42/METROGPP/KZNLIN.PGM) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in /metrogp/html/router.php on line 24 [18:54] <nuvolari> hmm, I got used to normal windowed windows again [18:54] <nuvolari> xfce :P [18:55] <nuvolari> and xscreensaver does what I need :P I don't feel like fiddling too much these days [18:57] <kbmonkey> Vince-0, are you a part of the UbuntuZA launchpad team? [18:57] <Vince-0> I think so [18:57] * Vince-0 checks [18:59] <Vince-0> negative, kbmonkey [18:59] <kbmonkey> hmm, don't see your name in the selection for meeting chair. [18:59] <Vince-0> registering now [18:59] <kbmonkey> I just selected myself for now [19:00] * Vince-0 is inbetween tasks [19:00] <kbmonkey> np, you can sort that out at a later time :) [19:01] <Kilos> nice to see you here again smiley [19:01] <kbmonkey> yes SmilyBorg :] [19:01] <SmilyBorg> :-) [19:01] <Kilos> SmilyBorg [19:01] <Kilos> whew [19:02] <Vince-0> hi! [19:02] <Vince-0> whoot: http://ubuntu-za.org/users/vince-0 [19:02] <kbmonkey> hoorah [19:04] <Kilos> how come it aint got that ~ in front [19:04] <nuvolari> superfly: need a proxy? http://41.160.59.42/METROGP/html/router.php?pgm=http://google.com/ :P [19:06] <kbmonkey> man this agenda editor is lacking [19:07] <SmilyBorg> I'm off to bed [19:07] <Kilos> night SmilyBorg sleep tight [19:07] <SmilyBorg> needs my beauty sleeps [19:07] <Kilos> hehe me too [19:08] <SmilyBorg> night [19:08] <superfly> nuvolari: I'm "beta" testing their GoMetro 2.0 [19:08] <superfly> it's more like a very bad alpha [19:11] <kbmonkey> I wonder if I can sync my calcurse with GCalendar. *googles* [19:12] <Cantide> good night 'o' [19:12] <kbmonkey> ciao ciao Cantide [19:13] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: calcurse, ncurses calendar?? [19:13] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight [19:13] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos [19:14] <Kilos> see youall tomorrow [19:14] <kbmonkey> gn Kilos [19:14] <kbmonkey> yes nuvolari, indeed :) [19:15] <kbmonkey> you can symlink the calcurse file to the cloud between machines. but a google calender sync would be nice. probably could do something with https://code.google.com/p/googlecl/ [19:17] <kbmonkey> so I was stuck the weekend for the car battery failure, and spent some time on MilkyTracker. it's quite addictive [19:18] <kbmonkey> you know you can make a song in 25KB? amazing. [19:23] <superfly> I did that way back when [19:25] <kbmonkey> I still have a song of yours superfly, eternal joy. what was that one made it? [19:26] <superfly> no, that was made using FL studio [19:27] <superfly> just pm'ed you 2 songs I made using Impulse Tracker, I think [19:27] <kbmonkey> thanks :) [19:29] <superfly> I have a bunch more, but I didn't want to totally embarrass myself on SoundCloud [19:30] <magespawn> evening all [19:30] <kbmonkey> lol. I embarrassed myself on my domain ;P [19:30] <superfly> hey magespawn [19:30] <kbmonkey> noise.darknet.co.za [19:30] <kbmonkey> old stuff using Psycle [19:30] <kbmonkey> hello magespawn [19:42] <charl> nn all [20:24] <magespawn> how was the meeting [20:24] <magespawn> ? [20:30] <Vince-0> K [20:30] <Vince-0> from kbmonkey: AGREED: Organize release parties for each region [20:30] <Vince-0> AGREED: Ubuntu hour KZN possibly on the 11th May (TBA) [20:30] <Vince-0> AGREED: Send postcards to the Ubuntu diversity project [20:35] <magespawn> kind of meant in a general way [20:35] <magespawn> buy ty === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [20:47] <Vince-0> arr [20:47] <Vince-0> I am a pirate 'cos a pirate is free [20:48] * Vince-0 has Alestorm playing [20:48] <Vince-0> anyways, I was inbetween a few things during - now I'm chair for next meet [20:48] <magespawn> cool beans [20:48] <Vince-0> aand now its time for beds [20:48] * Vince-0 bows out [20:49] <magespawn> do what you want 'cause a pirate is free [20:50] <magespawn> good night all [21:10] <trender> eish [21:10] <trender> night mage [21:14] <trender> maaz: ? [21:14] <Maaz> trender: Sorry... [21:14] <trender> ok then [21:15] <trender> maaz: hello [21:15] * Maaz waves to trender [21:15] <trender> maaz: help [21:15] <Maaz> trender: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [21:15] <Maaz> Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [21:16] <trender> maaz: help me with washing the dishes [21:16] <Maaz> trender: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [21:17] <trender> maaz: help me with delivering messages [21:17] <Maaz> trender: I use the following features for delivering messages: memo and summon [21:17] <Maaz> Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [21:18] <trender> maaz: how do i use memo [21:18] <Maaz> trender: Keeps messages for people. You can use it like this: [21:18] <Maaz> my messages [21:18] <Maaz> message <number> [21:18] <Maaz> my messages for <person> [on <source>] [21:18] <Maaz> (tell|pm|privmsg|msg|ask) <person> [on <source>] <message> [21:18] <Maaz> forget my (first|last|<n>th) message for <person> [on <source>] [21:18] <trender> maaz: how do i use summon [21:19] <Maaz> trender: Get the attention of a person via different source. You can use it like this: [21:19] <Maaz> summon <person> [via <source>] [21:19] <trender> hrm...cute bot