[06:04] <Unit193> Wow, we're pulling in a bit of gnome and a touch of unity so it would seem.
[10:37] <smartboyhw> Hi Xubuntu devs:)
[10:37] <smartboyhw> A Ubuntu Studio user reported a Bug 1169122
[10:38] <smartboyhw> However zequence and I thought that it cannot be a Ubuntu Studio bug on it's own.
 Not really a Ubuntu Studio bug. I think the behaviour of the volume pop up could be improved, but I don't know where this should be done
 Maybe XFCE?
[10:38] <smartboyhw> So can any people direct the bug to it's right place?:) Big thanks!
[11:10] <knome> please get it confirmed first
[11:10] <smartboyhw> zequence, ^
[11:10] <knome> and post instructions how to reproduce
[11:11]  * smartboyhw can't actually reproduce this bug hmm...
[11:12] <zequence> I don't think that specific case is the whole scope of the problem. The volume notification will show in cases when you don't really require it to
[11:12] <knome> i read the comment, that's why i think it is stupid to forward it to developers at this point
[11:13] <knome> well, then it's probably not an xfce problem either, becuase why would xfce notice of volumes randomly?
[11:13] <smartboyhw> zequence, try to reproduce the bug please.
[11:13] <knome> zequence, have you experiences unexpected notifications too?
[11:14] <zequence> smartboyhw: I'm not going to, but I will fire up a virtual install now just to see if I can find another case
[11:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK.
[11:14] <smartboyhw> zequence, I can't reproduce it (and never see strange volume notifications) 
[11:14] <smartboyhw> I would rather mark the bug as invalid.
[11:15] <zequence> I think the volume notification should only show, if you adjust the volume with a non-gui controller
[11:15] <smartboyhw> zequence, and why would one not?
[11:15] <zequence> As is now, it at least pops up when you adjust using the volume applet
[11:15] <smartboyhw> zequence, yep.
[11:16] <knome> zequence, that bug should be reported against the volume applet then
[11:17] <zequence> knome: I'm not so interested in that particular bug myself. Just looking quickly if I can find some other usecase
[11:18] <zequence> Anyone know what package or source is responsible for forwarding the volume notifications?
[11:18] <knome> me neither, i think it's a really low priority one. if the bug with software sources was reproducible, it might be even medium, but still far away from the top of the list
[11:20] <smartboyhw> zequence, not me.
[11:21] <zequence> I'm checking out xfce4-notifyd
[11:21] <smartboyhw> knome, zequence should I mark it as "Invalid" or "Opinion" or what?
[11:21] <zequence> smartboyhw: Just leave it be
[11:22] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:22] <zequence> smartboyhw: Until someone can either confirm it, or prove it is not a bug, it's hard to do anything
[11:22] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK.
[11:28] <zequence> xfce4-volumed seems more correct
[11:29] <smartboyhw> zequence, OK
[11:29] <zequence> files src/xvd_notify.*
[11:31] <zequence> I'm guessing that's where you'd do the hacking if you want to change the behaviour for the volume notifications
[12:02] <ochosi> zequence: just a pointer: xfce4-notifyd is a daemon, so it only listens to signals. when programmes decide to send a notification through the daemon is up to them, so imho it should be fixed in the respective package, not the daemon (simply surpressing certain signals might lead to unwanted behavior in other places)
[12:16] <zequence> ochosi: Yeah, I think I found the source in xfce4-volumed
[12:18] <zequence> But I doubt I will start poking in it, all though it probably would be good for c noobs like me
[12:58] <lderan> zequence, looking at code is always a good thing to do when you're starting out in that language.
[17:47] <skellat> knome: I imagine I am going to have some folks displeased with me for this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1169238
[22:02] <bluesabre> micahg, mr_pouit, are either of you around?  :)
[22:06] <bluesabre> knome, as a bugfix release, do I need to file a FFe for catfish 0.6.1 to be updated to 0.6.3?
[22:08] <Unit193> bluesabre: As for Bug 1098323, that wasn't the initial problem, at least for me.
[22:09] <bluesabre> yeah, I think his problem is slightly unrelated
[22:11] <Unit193> Don't know, it seems he can use VLC so shouldn't be libdvdcss, and same error message I had.  My dvd drive is /dev/dvd2, and it'd refuse to open it even if you directed it. :P
[22:13] <bluesabre> I need to fix that at some point
[22:13] <bluesabre> :D
[22:23] <bluesabre> working on a new category chooser in menulibre... thoughts?  http://imagebin.org/254177
[22:26] <Unit193> I'm not sure which one is new, but the one on the left is nice, just may not have all needed options..  Right is nice if for some reason you need to add one, such as X-Xfce.
[22:27] <bluesabre> The one on the right is new.  I'm trying to accomodate for the multitude of possible sub-categories
[22:29] <bluesabre> The + button will show a dropdown menu with all the known categories, and custom categories will be remembered in the menulibre settings
[22:29] <Unit193> Yeah, which makes sense.  I like how you can see more with the first, but you don't have all the needed options so something else is needed.
[22:30] <bluesabre> I'll probably add a second column that shows a nicer name, Utility -> Accessories, etc
[22:59] <skellat> As seen over at #ubuntu-release: (06:56:04 PM) queuebot: (notice) Unapproved: shimmer-themes (raring-proposed/universe) [1.5.4-0ubuntu1 => 1.5.4-0ubuntu2] (ubuntustudio, xubuntu)
[23:51] <Unit193> Might want to wait for it to get accepted or rejected.
[23:51] <skellat> Unit193: (07:05:22 PM) queuebot: (notice) Unapproved: accepted shimmer-themes [source] (raring-proposed) [1.5.4-0ubuntu2]
[23:52] <Unit193> That one.