[02:57] Hello [02:58] I was wondering if anybody could point me towards a solution to get my wireless card working. Pretty new to Linux and need some help. Running Xubuntu on an HP ze5300 [03:03] xubuntu378: Hey, welcome to Xubuntu! Do you know what your wireless card is? [03:04] Hey Sonik. Thank you for responding. I do have it but give me a second please. Need to find where i wrote it down [03:04] * SonikkuAmerica is a Unity user but runs Xubuntu 12.04 LTS in a hypervisor [03:08] it is an Agere 802.11b Mini-pci wireless card [03:09] xubuntu378: Is it the Agre ORiNOCO? [03:10] No it isn't though i do have an old orinoco gold card that i used to use for stumbling but this one is onboard [03:13] xubuntu378: Head for Applications > Accesories > Terminal Emulator and type in [ iwconfig ] after the window shows up, then hit ENTER. [03:14] Got it. Should i paste the results? [03:15] Sure. http://paste.ubuntu.com [03:15] wlan0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"RedBetsy" Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:26:5A:FB:AF:52 Retry short limit:8 Link Quality=57/70 Signal level=-40 dBm Noise level=-97 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:3564 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:151 Missed beacon:0 wifi0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"RedBetsy" Mode:Managed [03:16] xubuntu378: I'm surprised that all fit on one line. It's better to use a pastebin. [03:16] Sorry, didn't realize it was a link to click on. [03:17] Oh well. Let me see... [03:18] The part that concerns me is the last one where it says lo No wireless extension and Eth0 no wireless extension [03:18] Again, thank you [03:18] OK, try [ modprobe ath_pci rfkill=0 ] [03:18] You're welcome [03:19] You may need to sudo that. [03:20] FATAL: Module ath_pci not found. [03:20] oh ok one second [03:21] same error but this time it at least asked for password haha [03:21] Well, if it can't find the module the first time, becoming "root" won't make a difference. [03:22] :) [03:22] That's all sudo does. [03:22] OK, run [ lspci ] [03:22] yeah i know but it gave me false hope [03:24] Got one network controller from intersil and one from national semiconductor corporation [03:25] I do have a button on this laptop that turned the wireless on and off in windows but it isn't working now. Not sure if it would automatically be on in xubuntu [03:26] Yeah... I know MiniPCI cards have a radio switch... try using it. [03:26] Oh, it didn't work. [03:26] Are you trying to connect to a WPA2 network, by any chance? [03:27] no it didn't and i checked bios to see if i could set it on but no dice [03:27] Yes [03:28] any difference in connecting or does 11b not work for wpa2? [03:28] it should work i'm pretty sure [03:29] The driver for Agere MiniPCI cards for Ubuntu doesn't support WPA2, unfortunately. [03:29] It only supports WEP and WPA(1) (it's ancient) [03:30] You might Google for ndiswrapper and see if you can find a driver with that. [03:31] So it's a driver issue? Ok. Should i look into using a usb wireless or will it not make a difference? If i can ask, you're saying xubuntu is the issue or the driver? [03:32] A USB wireless (provided you can find a driver) should work. ndiswrapper probes to see if the Windows driver will work in Linux. [03:33] OK sounds like i'm going to have some fun hunting it down but at least i got great answers. Thank you so much for your time and knowledge. Have a great night. [03:33] Yep! You're welcome, and welcome to Xubuntu! [03:34] Thanks. Looking forward to making this old beast of a computer a new friend. [03:35] The hard part is breaking the ice. :) [03:40] Hello, how can I make transparent the botton bar? [03:40] bottom [03:41] It's in Panel Preferences. [03:42] solid color? [03:42] red is enabled and I don't see any liek transparency [03:42] There's a slider marked "Alpha." Try adjusting that. [03:43] solved it [03:43] alpha was disabled [03:43] Beautiful. [03:43] needed to activate in the windows manager [03:43] Take note also that some features need the xfwm4 compositor enabled as well. [04:57] http://www.tittiesnbacon.com/ [05:02] Hi everyone.. I would like to stop internet traffic if I get disconnected from the VPN... I'm getting an error explained on the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5709554/ what can I do to solve it? [06:11] Hello xubuntu people! [06:11] packetfrog, greetings [06:11] :> [06:36] Anyone home? [06:37] I'm having problems with gnome network-manager. Ubuntu 12.4 LTS running xubuntu-desktop. I did "sudo apt-get unistall network-manager", and just used ifup/ifdown, but now I'm in a place with an AP with a hidden ESSID, so I need to use network-manager. I tethered to my phone and did "sudo apt-get install network-manager" (which also installed network-manager-gnome). [06:37] The network manager icon now shows up on my menubar, but I can't get it to show any wireless networks. If I do right-click/edit connections, the networks are all there, but I can't seem to get network-manager to show them to me in such a fashion that I can say "connect to that network".l [06:39] puff, why uninstall NM? Anyway, I'd suggest you apt-get purge- network manager then reinstall it. reboot and see it that fixes. [06:39] Wifi | puff see if these links help [06:39] *apt-get purge [06:40] cfhowlett: Ugh, then I lose the passwords for a doen networks... [06:40] well_laid_lawn: Which links? [06:40] !wifi [06:40] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:40] Thanks. [06:40] ^^ those [06:41] cfhowlett: Why uninstall etc, is because NM was constantly causing problems, disconnecting/reconnecting. [06:41] cfhowlett: for a brief time I was just using ifup/ifdown and had /network/interfaces set up to invoke wpa_supplicant. WIFI was rock-solid. [06:43] puff, understood. Hey more people in #ubuntu. Might want to ask over there. [06:49] cfhowlett: Yah... [06:50] But usually not much help over there there :-). [06:50] cfhowlett: Did that paste on #ubuntu show up in its entirety, or was it truncated? [06:53] puff, paste? did not see [07:11] Anybody know where networm-manager keeps network names, passwords, etc? [07:18] /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ [07:38] SunStar: Thanks. === Makdaam_ is now known as Makdaan === Makdaan is now known as Makdaam [09:21] Hello, I am new to linux, and have an old laptop that I would like to install xubuntu [09:22] does anyone have any advice for choice of installation [09:22] since it only has 1.73ghz, 504mb ... I think that the alternative installation cd for xubuntu [09:23] but i can not find the alternative installation cd for xubuntu?? [09:24] xubuntu572: there is no alternate cd for 12.10, only for 12.04 [09:25] okay, but where can I find it? [09:26] well you could try to install with the minimal image [09:26] afaik that still uses alternate, someone correct me if I'm wrong [09:26] http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [09:26] or should I try the usual? [09:28] xubuntu572, not enough room for xubuntu ... [09:29] I found the alternative (4.12). so I test with it.. Thanks :) [09:29] xubuntu572, I think damn small linux or perhaps puppy linux might be better suited [09:30] since I'm a beginner on linux so I want have a package manager that has is gui [09:31] xubuntu572, ok, .... but 500 megs? pretty restrictive ... [09:32] do you know if damn small linux or puppy have package manager with gui [09:32] yes it is a old old one [09:32] xubuntu572, so, no idea [09:34] many thanks anyway, now i have the alt. cd so I test with it :) [09:35] xubuntu572, best of luck [09:35] to work ... thanks [10:04] hello! [10:04] i am googling for a while and had like 5 reboots and i am still unable to change /etc/hostname to a different one [10:04] insanehits, greetings [10:04] how can i do this without GUI? something rewrites it to 'ubuntu' [10:05] i was trying the networkmanager config aswell [10:05] what am i doing wrong? [10:05] insanehits, bring this to #ubuntu much more active channel [10:05] i put hostname=foobar under [keyfile] in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [10:06] well in ubuntu i just edit the /etc/hosts /etc/hostname and it's done [10:12] insanehits: the latter is how it should work in xubuntu too [10:19] Myrtti: but something reset to ubuntu both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts [10:19] anyways i will try from the gui maybe that helps [12:22] Hello everybody! [12:22] hi [12:23] I have just changed my video card and I am having some issues. Please, is there any good soul that wishes do do some good action in order to go straight to heaven? [12:24] My name is Rogério, by the way. Sorry I am not using my real name. [12:34] xubuntu688, TMI. user name is fine [12:34] don't think there's any (written) rule that you should use your own name, on the contrary even ;) [12:53] Here I am again. [12:53] It's really odd. If I log in as guest user, everything runs just fine. But when I log with my normal user, the screen freezes... [12:55] Rogerio, probably something wrong with your config [12:56] Surely. I have just changed my video card. [12:57] Right now I am using the live CD. [12:58] If there was a way to "reset" the video configurations to the default I think that this would do the magic... [12:58] Rogerio, if running a guest session works, then you could obliterate the contents of ~/.config ? [12:58] Rogerio, if your guest session works then the video settings work [12:59] Rogerio, if you want to try that aproach however just delete the /ext/X11/xorg.conf file and it will reset to default [13:00] This is the odd of the odd. When I boot from HD and I choose the guest user, everything runs fine. But when I use my normal user, the screen freezes. I guess it is because I used to run with two monitors... [13:00] nah [13:00] unless you have a autorun xrandr script? [13:01] Yes, that's the case. [13:05] Is there a way to have the necessary permissions in order to chage thins in the system disc with the default user in Live CD? [13:08] GridCube, thanks for the help. [13:08] Rogerio, i dont know where the xfce autorun are stored [13:09] oh, apparently its ~/.config/autostart [13:09] :P [13:10] Rogerio, i would guess that navigating to that folder and deleting the xrandr script should do the trick [13:11] GridCube, thank you very much. I'll leave now, reboot and start via emergency mode as root. [13:13] Rogerio, no need for that [13:13] just use guest and use sudo [13:31] when my battery gets critical my session gets logged out. Is it possible to disable it? [13:31] baizon, see your power settings ... or plug in [13:36] nope, no conf possibility to set it [13:45] baizon, yes, there is [13:46] GridCube: any ideas where / how ? [13:53] baizon, http://imagebin.org/254117 go to power settings, go to "with battery" the firs option its "when charge its critical" [13:53] hmm [13:53] ok i didnt had that option [13:54] because no battery present :> [13:54] thanks [13:54] silly baizon [13:54] indeed :D [14:15] hi [14:15] Yo [14:15] sup dawg? [14:15] all good, u? [14:15] !u [14:15] U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [14:16] !good [14:16] Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. [14:17] !superExtremeAwesomeness [14:17] aww [14:17] !gay [14:17] that's nice, did you actually have a support question? [14:17] instead of playing with the bot? [14:18] :D [14:18] (I was kind of hoping. "Yo" is my usual greeting.) [14:18] Me too [14:19] I use "sup daawg?" [14:19] ... that you had a support question. [14:19] no! I want to say hello to you guys [14:20] :) thats very nice guys, but please could you keep random chatting to #xubuntu-offtopic [14:20] :) [14:20] okej [14:53] ` [15:22] hi all [15:22] всем привет [15:25] !ru [15:25] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [15:27] GridCube: hes already gone :) [15:27] oh [15:27] i have part/join hidden [15:59] Hello all. I'm attempting to run Xubuntu 12.10 over vnc4server; and when connection via VNC Many menu-icons are grey/empty icons. Both in the pager, and in the xfce-menu. Is there a known solution? [16:00] Using Settings -> Appearance -> Icons ; and changing icon themes has zero effect. Also, one google search suggested Tango icon theme, also no effect. [16:03] The window decorations also look quite minimal. as well as the pager bar. When I log into the actual system console . all is well. [16:13] hi guys [16:14] im looking for some help [16:14] hi anti_ [16:14] !ask | anti_ [16:14] anti_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:15] Can you please tell me which version of xgce does xubuntu 12.0.4 use ? [16:15] *xfce [16:15] 12.04? xfce 4.8 [16:15] ive just installed a clean copy off xubuntu but every time i try and boot i get stuck on booting screen [16:16] anti_, is this a new computer? and by new i mean recently manufactured? [16:16] GridCube thanks !! I wanted the LTS version for an old desktop thats why [16:16] no this is an old pc made back in 2004 [16:16] ok [16:16] anti_ did you use the 32 bit version [16:17] i did [16:17] ok [16:17] anti_, do you still have the installation media? [16:17] i used 12.10 32bit and the 12.04 32bit and same problem [16:18] can you boot into the livecd? [16:18] you mean the dvd ? [16:18] sorry yeah i do [16:18] and can boot it [16:18] anti_, try this then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair [16:20] okay thx i will give this a shot [16:22] GridCube do you have the link for creating a liveusb ? [16:22] !unetbootin [16:22] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [16:23] i basically just use unetbootin and choose an iso and its done [16:24] it failed on fallback graphics devices last time [16:24] ubottu do I have to extract all the xubuntu files in the iso into the pen drive [16:24] Aiena: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:24] very fubby [16:24] *funny [16:24] Hmmm [16:25] it's the truth [16:25] Yes seems like it [16:25] but first time I'm seeing a bot on IRC this active [16:25] its odd [16:25] an unusual experience [16:25] ubottu is a bot, but the links it gave contain all the info you need [16:25] TheSheep: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:26] well, it reacts to triggers [16:26] TheSheep yeah !! Followed ubott_u again responded [16:26] to its name [16:26] which is the trigger [16:26] Ok [16:26] handy for support if url changes, you only know the trigger [16:26] It was hard to beleive intially [16:26] need to ^ gah [16:26] :) [16:27] TheSheep for a liveusb boot do I have to extract the iso into the pen drive ? [16:28] no, read the link [16:28] Aiena, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick this page shows you how per operating system [16:31] hi guys i did that and now got failed to open uri "file:///mnt/boot-sav/wubi2/home [16:31] Thanks [16:32] anti_, where did you mention before this was a wubi install [16:33] Aiena, you dont need to uncompress the iso [16:33] yes seems so [16:33] there is a linux media creator for windows [16:33] oh... anti_ [16:33] which does ot for you [16:33] you are using wubi anti_ [16:33] :( [16:33] sorry it was but i also tried it though live usb [16:33] why are you using wubi [16:33] !wubi | anti_ here's the guide [16:33] anti_ here's the guide: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug. For Ubuntu Oneiric/11.10 http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/wubi.exe [16:34] wubi should die already [16:34] ive tried it so meny diffent ways [16:34] anti it wont work [16:34] anti_, in future, you need to mention that [16:35] sorry [16:35] okay so how can i fix this [16:35] anti_, i would recommend a clean install, real, no wubi, if you already have backed up information [16:36] okay [16:36] anti_, the wubi? check the guide. a real dual boot? [16:36] probably use the nomodeset on your boot stage too [16:37] okay so can i wipe my os form the live usb i made [16:37] if you are confortable with that, sure [16:38] sorry if i making this hard for you guys my using my phone and its not great for reading guides [16:38] :) no problem [16:43] okay ive deleted all os and gunna made a new partition= [16:43] wubi never used a partition [16:43] :) you should just let the installer do it automagically for you [16:44] okay thx [16:45] i had 4 os on this system so i think it was for the best it had a clean set up [16:46] Hello. A quick question here: Is it possible to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.xx beta release without reinstalling from iso? [16:46] sure [16:47] sure, but why not wait to release [16:47] Sweet. How do I do it? Just select to use quantal-proposed or what? [16:48] you will be prompted once it's released [16:48] on your source settings theres update options [16:48] I want to contribute to this awesome ubuntu distro :) [16:48] heard beta testing and bug reports are welcome [16:48] yes very much [16:48] #ubuntu+1 for that [16:49] true, #ubuntu+1 for support tho, :D and #xubuntu-devel [16:51] Um... So this is not the right place to ask such questions? [16:58] okay now installed and wirking i guess as a get to the login screen [16:59] GridCube will xbuntu on a livecd run without a net connection ? [16:59] yes [17:00] Ok cool [17:00] Becasue the antiquity on which I am planning to experiment with xubuntu does not have an internet connection [17:01] maybe not as now im stuck at login screen [17:02] GridCube can I downlaod an application like krita on windows and then store it and install it on xubuntu [17:02] or do I have to use the sudo command which I have read of but never used [17:02] this is the first time I am trying linux [17:03] second time ive used ubuntu before but never xubuntu [17:03] yup you can download programs on computer, they will be more then likely be .deb files [17:03] !apt-offline | Aiena [17:04] !offline | Aiena [17:04] Aiena: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD [17:05] Aiena, sudo its a command that changes the user executing a program, in the case of ubuntu its used to force the system to work as root, root its the superuser of the *nixverse [17:05] GridCube yes offline [17:05] it can do everything, from formatting to deleting all files, to moving stuffs and what not [17:06] the host machine on which I am planning to install xubuntu does not have an internet connection on it [17:06] dont ever use sudo if you are not sure of what you are doing [17:06] suppose I want to download krita on my main windows machine [17:06] Aiena, apt-offline its your best option then [17:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710893 [17:10] anti_, you cant boot still? [17:10] GridCube can you run me througgh the procedure of installing krita for instance on xubuntu assuming that I will be downloading the apt on a windows machine with an internet connection but running it on an older machine without one [17:11] nope got to login screen froze then rebooted [17:12] now stuck at boot screen [17:13] just done boot repair and still nothing [17:14] it works great without installing it and just runnin it off live usb [17:14] i want to install it [17:15] anti_ did you try completely fprmatting your hard disk [17:15] *formatting [17:15] maybe that might help [17:15] not sure [17:15] Aiena, get the live session running, on a cd/usb/anything, open synaptic, if its not there install it from the ubuntu software center, then update and find the packages you want to intall, for exampple krita, then go to >File >generate package download script. that will generate a downloader script [17:15] yes [17:16] GridCube ok after generating the download script [17:16] Aiena, run that script from a terminal ./nameofthescript [17:16] and it will download all the packages to the place where the script its at [17:16] i deleted a partition and formatted hard drive then installed xubuntu [17:16] GridCube can i run it from the windows terminal ? [17:17] the internet connected machine is a windows os one [17:17] all partitions [17:17] if you have wget on windows, sure [17:17] but you can do that on the live session [17:17] on the windows machine connected to the interwebs [17:17] hmm can you elaborate [17:18] you are very resourceful [17:18] i already told you [17:18] one sec I will try booting from my live usb [17:18] on my windows machine [17:18] hope all things work well because this is a laptop [17:18] GridCube what should i do now ? [17:19] anti_, try to edit your grub start using "e" and add the nomodeset option [17:19] i wonder [17:19] !nomodeset [17:19] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [17:19] anti_, ^ [17:19] yes [17:22] okay how do i do this ive pushed e at start and got a box up to set params [17:22] press a space and add nomodeset [17:23] i think thats that [17:23] if you can get to the livecd you should be able to get to the installed [17:23] i can load the live usb [17:24] yes [17:24] well, anti_ where it says stuff like "quiet splash" add a "nomodeset", no " [17:24] every time i push space it moves one space is that correct [17:26] after this is done do i pust f10 to boot [17:27] it should tell you there somewhere what to do [17:27] in the screen [17:28] ctrl-x i think it said, but im not sure [17:28] do i copy it the the way you done it or without the quotes [17:29] no quotes [17:29] just add nomodeset after splash [17:29] okay [17:30] okay i hvae xbuntu 12.04 and 4 dots under it [17:31] thats the splash :3 [17:31] but no sign off it working [17:31] press alt-f1 and you should see leters and numbers [17:32] nope frozen [17:32] well, this is an advance isnt it? [17:33] you could try next with acpi=off [17:33] maybe both? [17:33] okay [17:33] dunno [17:33] same place [17:33] i would let ti go trhough tho, wait a while to see if it boots with nomodeset [17:34] okay [17:34] anti_, yes, acpi=off should go to the same place [17:34] with nonodeset [17:35] one after the other with spaces separating them [17:35] the order is irrelevant [17:35] okay [17:35] so [17:36] GridCube I sucvcessfully booted xubuntu from my pe3ndrive as a live cd on my windows pc with an internet connection cool [17:36] quiet splash nonodeset acpi=off [17:36] anti_, sure try that [17:36] Aiena, get the live session running, on a cd/usb/anything, open synaptic, if its not there install it from the ubuntu software center, then update and find the packages you want to intall, for exampple krita, then go to >File >generate package download script. that will generate a downloader script [17:37] Aiena, run that script from a terminal ./nameofthescript [17:37] synaptic is intalled fortunately [17:38] GridCube, I am running it from the machine using an internet connection [17:38] and I have a persistent usb stick [17:38] yes, i read you already :) [17:38] so I can install linux directly right [17:38] okay i will leave it alittle bit see if it boots [17:38] sure, i guess, i've never done that tho [17:38] onto the persistent bit of stick [17:38] anti_, good luck [17:39] Aiena, sure, i would guess so, yes [17:39] i dont see why not [17:39] ok so i marked krita for installation on synaptics [17:39] then [17:39] now go to file, save download script [17:40] if I click apply will it install krita onto the live usb ? [17:40]