[02:57] <xubuntu378> Hello
[02:58] <xubuntu378> I was wondering if anybody could point me towards a solution to get my wireless card working. Pretty new to Linux and need some help. Running Xubuntu on an HP ze5300
[03:03] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu378: Hey, welcome to Xubuntu! Do you know what your wireless card is?
[03:04] <xubuntu378> Hey Sonik. Thank you for responding. I do have it but give me a second please. Need to find where i wrote it down
[03:04]  * SonikkuAmerica is a Unity user but runs Xubuntu 12.04 LTS in a hypervisor
[03:08] <xubuntu378> it is an Agere 802.11b Mini-pci wireless card
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu378: Is it the Agre ORiNOCO?
[03:10] <xubuntu378> No it isn't though i do have an old orinoco gold card that i used to use for stumbling but this one is onboard
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu378: Head for Applications > Accesories > Terminal Emulator and type in [ iwconfig ] after the window shows up, then hit ENTER.
[03:14] <xubuntu378> Got it. Should i paste the results?
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Sure. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:15] <xubuntu378> wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"RedBetsy"             Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: 00:26:5A:FB:AF:52              Retry short limit:8              Link Quality=57/70  Signal level=-40 dBm  Noise level=-97 dBm           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:3564  Rx invalid frag:0           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:151   Missed beacon:0  wifi0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"RedBetsy"             Mode:Managed
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu378: I'm surprised that all fit on one line. It's better to use a pastebin.
[03:16] <xubuntu378> Sorry, didn't realize it was a link to click on.
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh well. Let me see...
[03:18] <xubuntu378> The part that concerns me is the last one where it says lo   No wireless extension and Eth0 no wireless extension
[03:18] <xubuntu378> Again, thank you
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, try [ modprobe ath_pci rfkill=0 ]
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> You may need to sudo that.
[03:20] <xubuntu378> FATAL: Module ath_pci not found.
[03:20] <xubuntu378> oh ok one second
[03:21] <xubuntu378> same error but this time it at least asked for password haha
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, if it can't find the module the first time, becoming "root" won't make a difference.
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> That's all sudo does.
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, run [ lspci ]
[03:22] <xubuntu378> yeah i know but it gave me false hope
[03:24] <xubuntu378> Got one network controller from intersil and one from national semiconductor corporation
[03:25] <xubuntu378> I do have a button on this laptop that turned the wireless on and off in windows but it isn't working now. Not sure if it would automatically be on in xubuntu
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah... I know MiniPCI cards have a radio switch... try using it.
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, it didn't work.
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Are you trying to connect to a WPA2 network, by any chance?
[03:27] <xubuntu378> no it didn't and i checked bios to see if i could set it on but no dice
[03:27] <xubuntu378> Yes
[03:28] <xubuntu378> any difference in connecting or does 11b not work for wpa2?
[03:28] <xubuntu378> it should work i'm pretty sure
[03:29] <SonikkuAmerica> The driver for Agere MiniPCI cards for Ubuntu doesn't support WPA2, unfortunately.
[03:29] <SonikkuAmerica> It only supports WEP and WPA(1) (it's ancient)
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> You might Google for ndiswrapper and see if you can find a driver with that.
[03:31] <xubuntu378> So it's a driver issue? Ok. Should i look into using a usb wireless or will it not make a difference? If i can ask, you're saying xubuntu is the issue or the driver?
[03:32] <SonikkuAmerica> A USB wireless (provided you can find a driver) should work. ndiswrapper probes to see if the Windows driver will work in Linux.
[03:33] <xubuntu378> OK sounds like i'm going to have some fun hunting it down but at least i got great answers. Thank you so much for your time and knowledge. Have a great night.
[03:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep! You're welcome, and welcome to Xubuntu!
[03:34] <xubuntu378> Thanks. Looking forward to making this old beast of a computer a new friend.
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> The hard part is breaking the ice. :)
[03:40] <n-iCe> Hello, how can I make transparent the botton bar?
[03:40] <n-iCe> bottom
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> It's in Panel Preferences.
[03:42] <n-iCe> solid color?
[03:42] <n-iCe> red is enabled and I don't see any liek transparency
[03:42] <SonikkuAmerica> There's a slider marked "Alpha." Try adjusting that.
[03:43] <n-iCe> solved it
[03:43] <n-iCe> alpha was disabled
[03:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Beautiful.
[03:43] <n-iCe> needed to activate in the windows manager
[03:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Take note also that some features need the xfwm4 compositor enabled as well.
[04:57] <fowlslegs> http://www.tittiesnbacon.com/
[05:02] <NateJones> Hi everyone.. I would like to stop internet traffic if I get disconnected from the VPN... I'm getting an error explained on the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5709554/  what can I do to solve it?
[06:11] <packetfrog> Hello xubuntu people!
[06:11] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, greetings
[06:11] <packetfrog> :>
[06:36] <puff> Anyone home?
[06:37] <puff> I'm having problems with gnome network-manager.  Ubuntu 12.4 LTS running xubuntu-desktop.  I did "sudo apt-get unistall network-manager", and just used ifup/ifdown, but now I'm in a place with an AP with a hidden ESSID, so I need to use network-manager.  I tethered to my phone and did "sudo apt-get install network-manager" (which also installed network-manager-gnome).
[06:37] <puff> The network manager icon now shows up on my menubar, but I can't get it to show any wireless networks.  If I do right-click/edit connections, the networks are all there, but I can't seem to get network-manager to show them to me in such a fashion that I can say "connect to that network".l
[06:39] <cfhowlett> puff, why uninstall NM? Anyway, I'd suggest you apt-get purge- network manager then reinstall it.  reboot and see it that fixes.
[06:39] <well_laid_lawn> Wifi | puff see if these links help
[06:39] <cfhowlett> *apt-get purge
[06:40] <puff> cfhowlett: Ugh, then I lose the passwords for  a doen networks...
[06:40] <puff> well_laid_lawn:  Which links?
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[06:40] <puff> Thanks.
[06:40] <well_laid_lawn> ^^ those
[06:41] <puff> cfhowlett: Why uninstall etc, is because NM was constantly causing problems, disconnecting/reconnecting.
[06:41] <puff> cfhowlett: for a brief time I was just using ifup/ifdown and had /network/interfaces set up to invoke wpa_supplicant.  WIFI was rock-solid.
[06:43] <cfhowlett> puff, understood.  Hey more people in #ubuntu.  Might want to ask over there.
[06:49] <puff> cfhowlett: Yah...
[06:50] <puff> But usually not much help over there there :-).
[06:50] <puff> cfhowlett: Did that paste on #ubuntu show up in its entirety, or was it truncated?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> puff, paste?  did not see
[07:11] <puff> Anybody know where networm-manager keeps network names, passwords, etc?
[07:18] <SunStar> /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[07:38] <puff> SunStar: Thanks.
[09:21] <xubuntu572> Hello, I am new to linux, and have an old laptop that I would like to install xubuntu
[09:22] <xubuntu572> does anyone have any advice for choice of installation
[09:22] <xubuntu572> since it only has 1.73ghz, 504mb ...  I think that the alternative installation cd for xubuntu
[09:23] <xubuntu572> but i can not find the alternative installation cd for xubuntu??
[09:24] <koegs> xubuntu572: there is no alternate cd for 12.10, only for 12.04
[09:25] <xubuntu572> okay, but where can I find it?
[09:26] <Myrtti> well you could try to install with the minimal image
[09:26] <Myrtti> afaik that still uses alternate, someone correct me if I'm wrong
[09:26] <koegs> http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[09:26] <xubuntu572> or should I try the usual?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> xubuntu572, not enough room for xubuntu ...
[09:29] <xubuntu572> I found the alternative (4.12). so I test with it.. Thanks :)
[09:29] <cfhowlett> xubuntu572, I think damn small linux or perhaps puppy linux might be better suited
[09:30] <xubuntu572> since I'm a beginner on linux so I want have a package manager that has is gui
[09:31] <cfhowlett> xubuntu572, ok, .... but 500 megs?  pretty restrictive ...
[09:32] <xubuntu572> do you know if damn small linux or puppy have  package manager  with gui
[09:32] <xubuntu572> yes it is a old old one
[09:32] <cfhowlett> xubuntu572, so, no idea
[09:34] <xubuntu572> many thanks anyway, now i have the  alt. cd so I test with it :)
[09:35] <cfhowlett> xubuntu572, best of luck
[09:35] <xubuntu572> to work ...  thanks
[10:04] <insanehits> hello!
[10:04] <insanehits> i am googling for a while and had like 5 reboots and i am still unable to change /etc/hostname to a different one
[10:04] <cfhowlett> insanehits, greetings
[10:04] <insanehits> how can i do this without GUI? something rewrites it to 'ubuntu'
[10:05] <insanehits> i was trying the networkmanager config aswell
[10:05] <insanehits> what am i doing wrong?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> insanehits, bring this to #ubuntu   much more active channel
[10:05] <insanehits> i put hostname=foobar under [keyfile] in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[10:06] <insanehits> well in ubuntu i just edit the /etc/hosts /etc/hostname and it's done
[10:12] <Myrtti> insanehits: the latter is how it should work in xubuntu too
[10:19] <insanehits> Myrtti: but something reset to ubuntu both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[10:19] <insanehits> anyways i will try from the gui maybe that helps
[12:22] <xubuntu688> Hello everybody!
[12:22] <baizon> hi
[12:23] <xubuntu688> I have just changed my video card and I am having some issues. Please, is there any good soul that wishes do do some good action in order to go straight to heaven?
[12:24] <xubuntu688> My name is Rogério, by the way. Sorry I am not using my real name.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> xubuntu688, TMI.  user name is fine
[12:34] <ncdmr> don't think there's any (written) rule that you should use your own name, on the contrary even ;)
[12:53] <Rogerio> Here I am again.
[12:53] <Rogerio> It's really odd. If I log in as guest user, everything runs just fine. But when I log with my normal user, the screen freezes...
[12:55] <knome> Rogerio, probably something wrong with your config
[12:56] <Rogerio> Surely. I have just changed my video card.
[12:57] <Rogerio> Right now I am using the live CD.
[12:58] <Rogerio> If there was a way to "reset" the video configurations to the default I think that this would do the magic...
[12:58] <GridCube> Rogerio, if running a guest session works, then you could obliterate the contents of ~/.config ?
[12:58] <GridCube> Rogerio, if your guest session works then the video settings work
[12:59] <GridCube> Rogerio, if you want to try that aproach however just delete the /ext/X11/xorg.conf file and it will reset to default
[13:00] <Rogerio> This is the odd of the odd. When I boot from HD and I choose the guest user, everything runs fine. But when I use my normal user, the screen freezes. I guess it is because I used to run with two monitors...
[13:00] <GridCube> nah
[13:00] <GridCube> unless you have a autorun xrandr script?
[13:01] <Rogerio> Yes, that's the case.
[13:05] <Rogerio> Is there a way to have the necessary permissions in order to chage thins in the system disc with the default user in Live CD?
[13:08] <Rogerio> GridCube, thanks for the help.
[13:08] <GridCube> Rogerio, i dont know where the xfce autorun are stored
[13:09] <GridCube> oh, apparently its ~/.config/autostart
[13:09] <GridCube> :P
[13:10] <GridCube> Rogerio, i would guess that navigating to that folder and deleting the xrandr script should do the trick
[13:11] <Rogerio> GridCube, thank you very much. I'll leave now, reboot and start via emergency mode as root.
[13:13] <GridCube> Rogerio, no need for that
[13:13] <GridCube> just use guest and use sudo
[13:31] <baizon> when my battery gets critical my session gets logged out. Is it possible to disable it?
[13:31] <cfhowlett> baizon, see your power settings ... or plug in
[13:36] <baizon> nope, no conf possibility to set it
[13:45] <GridCube> baizon, yes, there is
[13:46] <baizon> GridCube: any ideas where / how ?
[13:53] <GridCube> baizon, http://imagebin.org/254117  go to power settings, go to "with battery" the firs option its "when charge its critical"
[13:53] <baizon> hmm
[13:53] <baizon> ok i didnt had that option
[13:54] <baizon> because no battery present :>
[13:54] <baizon> thanks
[13:54] <GridCube> silly baizon
[13:54] <baizon> indeed :D
[14:15] <Peyam> hi
[14:15] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[14:15] <Peyam> sup dawg?
[14:15] <SonikkuAmerica> all good, u?
[14:15] <SonikkuAmerica> !u
[14:16] <Peyam> !good
[14:17] <lderan> !superExtremeAwesomeness
[14:17] <lderan> aww
[14:17] <Peyam> !gay
[14:17] <Myrtti> that's nice, did you actually have a support question?
[14:17] <Myrtti> instead of playing with the bot?
[14:18] <Peyam> :D
[14:18] <SonikkuAmerica> (I was kind of hoping. "Yo" is my usual greeting.)
[14:18] <Peyam> Me too
[14:19] <Peyam> I use "sup daawg?"
[14:19] <SonikkuAmerica> ... that you had a support question.
[14:19] <Peyam> no! I want to say hello to you guys
[14:20] <GridCube> :) thats very nice guys, but please could you keep random chatting to #xubuntu-offtopic
[14:20] <GridCube> :)
[14:20] <Peyam> okej
[14:53] <xubuntu017> `
[15:22] <gordienkoff> hi all
[15:22] <gordienkoff> всем привет
[15:25] <GridCube> !ru
[15:27] <baizon> GridCube: hes already gone :)
[15:27] <GridCube> oh
[15:27] <GridCube> i have part/join hidden
[15:59] <ron-slc> Hello all.  I'm attempting to run Xubuntu 12.10  over vnc4server; and when connection via VNC Many menu-icons are grey/empty icons.  Both in the pager, and in the xfce-menu.  Is there a known solution?
[16:00] <ron-slc> Using Settings -> Appearance -> Icons ; and changing icon themes has zero effect.  Also, one google search suggested Tango icon theme, also no effect.
[16:03] <ron-slc> The window decorations also look quite minimal.  as well as the pager bar.    When I log into the actual system console .  all is well.
[16:13] <anti_> hi guys
[16:14] <anti_> im looking for some help
[16:14] <lderan> hi anti_
[16:14] <GridCube> !ask | anti_
[16:15] <Aiena> Can you please tell me which version of xgce does xubuntu 12.0.4 use ?
[16:15] <Aiena> *xfce
[16:15] <GridCube> 12.04? xfce 4.8
[16:15] <anti_> ive just installed a clean copy off xubuntu but every time i try and boot i get stuck on booting screen
[16:16] <GridCube> anti_, is this a new computer? and by new i mean recently manufactured?
[16:16] <Aiena> GridCube thanks !! I wanted the LTS version for an old desktop thats why
[16:16] <anti_> no this is an old pc made back in 2004
[16:16] <GridCube> ok
[16:16] <Aiena> anti_ did you use the 32 bit version
[16:17] <anti_> i did
[16:17] <Aiena> ok
[16:17] <GridCube> anti_, do you still have the installation media?
[16:17] <anti_> i used 12.10 32bit and the 12.04 32bit and same problem
[16:18] <GridCube> can you boot into the livecd?
[16:18] <anti_> you mean the dvd ?
[16:18] <anti_> sorry yeah i do
[16:18] <anti_> and can boot it
[16:18] <GridCube> anti_, try this then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:20] <anti_> okay thx i will give this a shot
[16:22] <Aiena> GridCube do you have the link for creating a liveusb ?
[16:22] <GridCube> !unetbootin
[16:23] <GridCube> i basically just use unetbootin and choose an iso and its done
[16:24] <anti_> it failed on fallback graphics devices last time
[16:24] <Aiena> ubottu do I have to extract all the xubuntu files in the iso into the pen drive
[16:24] <Aiena> very fubby
[16:24] <Aiena> *funny
[16:24] <Aiena> Hmmm
[16:25] <TheSheep> it's the truth
[16:25] <Aiena> Yes seems like it
[16:25] <Aiena> but first time I'm seeing a bot on IRC  this active
[16:25] <Aiena> its odd
[16:25] <Aiena> an unusual experience
[16:25] <TheSheep> ubottu is a bot, but the links it gave contain all the info you need
[16:26] <TheSheep> well, it reacts to triggers
[16:26] <Aiena> TheSheep yeah !! Followed ubott_u again responded
[16:26] <Aiena> to its name
[16:26] <Aiena> which is the trigger
[16:26] <Aiena> Ok
[16:26] <lderan> handy for support if url changes, you only know the trigger
[16:26] <Aiena> It was hard to beleive intially
[16:26] <lderan> need to ^ gah
[16:26] <Aiena> :)
[16:27] <Aiena> TheSheep for a liveusb boot do I have to extract the iso into the pen drive ?
[16:28] <TheSheep> no, read the link
[16:28] <lderan> Aiena, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick this page shows you how per operating system
[16:31] <anti_> hi guys i did that and now got failed to open uri "file:///mnt/boot-sav/wubi2/home
[16:31] <Aiena> Thanks
[16:32] <bazhang> anti_, where did you mention before this was a wubi install
[16:33] <GridCube> Aiena, you dont need to uncompress the iso
[16:33] <Aiena> yes seems so
[16:33] <Aiena> there is a linux media creator for windows
[16:33] <GridCube> oh... anti_
[16:33] <Aiena> which does ot for you
[16:33] <GridCube> you are using wubi anti_
[16:33] <GridCube> :(
[16:33] <anti_> sorry it was but i also tried it though live usb
[16:33] <GridCube> why are you using wubi
[16:33] <bazhang> !wubi | anti_ here's the guide
[16:34] <GridCube> wubi should die already
[16:34] <anti_> ive tried it so meny diffent ways
[16:34] <Aiena> anti it wont work
[16:34] <bazhang> anti_, in future, you need to mention that
[16:35] <anti_> sorry
[16:35] <anti_> okay so how can i fix this
[16:35] <GridCube> anti_, i would recommend a clean install, real, no wubi, if you already have backed up information
[16:36] <anti_> okay
[16:36] <bazhang> anti_, the wubi? check the guide. a real dual boot?
[16:36] <GridCube> probably use the nomodeset on your boot stage too
[16:37] <anti_> okay so can i wipe my os form the live usb i made
[16:37] <GridCube> if you are confortable with that, sure
[16:38] <anti_> sorry if i making this hard for you guys my using my phone and its not great for reading guides
[16:38] <GridCube> :) no problem
[16:43] <anti_> okay ive deleted all os and gunna made a new partition=
[16:43] <bazhang> wubi never used a partition
[16:43] <GridCube> :) you should just let the installer do it automagically for you
[16:44] <anti_> okay thx
[16:45] <anti_> i had 4 os on this system so i think it was for the best it had a clean set up
[16:46] <yurij> Hello. A quick question here: Is it possible to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.xx beta release without reinstalling from iso?
[16:46] <bazhang> sure
[16:47] <GridCube> sure, but why not wait to release
[16:47] <yurij> Sweet. How do I do it? Just select to use quantal-proposed or what?
[16:48] <bazhang> you will be prompted once it's released
[16:48] <GridCube> on your source settings theres update options
[16:48] <yurij> I want to contribute to this awesome ubuntu distro :)
[16:48] <yurij> heard beta testing and bug reports are welcome
[16:48] <GridCube> yes very much
[16:48] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:49] <GridCube> true, #ubuntu+1 for support tho, :D and #xubuntu-devel
[16:51] <yurij> Um... So this is not the right place to ask such questions?
[16:58] <anti_> okay now installed and wirking i guess as a get to the login screen
[16:59] <Aiena> GridCube will xbuntu on a livecd run without a net connection ?
[16:59] <GridCube> yes
[17:00] <Aiena> Ok cool
[17:00] <Aiena> Becasue the antiquity on which I am planning to experiment with xubuntu does not have an internet connection
[17:01] <anti_> maybe not as now im stuck at login screen
[17:02] <Aiena> GridCube can I downlaod an application like krita on windows and then store it and install it on xubuntu
[17:02] <Aiena> or do I have to use the sudo command which I have read of but never used
[17:02] <Aiena> this is the first time I am trying linux
[17:03] <anti_> second time ive used ubuntu before but never xubuntu
[17:03] <lderan> yup you can download programs on computer, they will be more then likely be .deb files
[17:03] <GridCube> !apt-offline | Aiena
[17:04] <GridCube> !offline | Aiena
[17:05] <GridCube> Aiena, sudo its a command that changes the user executing a program, in the case of ubuntu its used to force the system to work as root, root its the superuser of the *nixverse
[17:05] <Aiena> GridCube yes offline
[17:05] <GridCube> it can do everything, from formatting to deleting all files, to moving stuffs and what not
[17:06] <Aiena> the host machine on which I am planning to install xubuntu does not have an internet connection on it
[17:06] <GridCube> dont ever use sudo if you are not sure of what you are doing
[17:06] <Aiena> suppose I want to download krita on my main windows machine
[17:06] <GridCube> Aiena, apt-offline its your best option then
[17:08] <anti_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710893
[17:10] <GridCube> anti_, you cant boot still?
[17:10] <Aiena> GridCube can you run me througgh the procedure of installing krita for instance on xubuntu assuming that I will be downloading the apt on a windows machine with an internet connection but running it on an older machine without one
[17:11] <anti_> nope got to login screen froze then rebooted
[17:12] <anti_> now stuck at boot screen
[17:13] <anti_> just done boot repair and still nothing
[17:14] <anti_> it works great without installing it and just runnin it off live usb
[17:14] <anti_> i want to install it
[17:15] <Aiena> anti_ did you try completely fprmatting your hard disk
[17:15] <Aiena> *formatting
[17:15] <Aiena> maybe that might help
[17:15] <Aiena> not sure
[17:15] <GridCube> Aiena, get the live session running, on a cd/usb/anything, open synaptic, if its not there install it from the ubuntu software center, then update and find the packages you want to intall, for exampple krita, then go to >File >generate package download script. that will generate a downloader script
[17:15] <anti_> yes
[17:16] <Aiena> GridCube ok after generating the download script
[17:16] <GridCube> Aiena, run that script from a terminal ./nameofthescript
[17:16] <GridCube> and it will download all the packages to the place where the script its at
[17:16] <anti_> i deleted a partition and formatted hard drive then installed xubuntu
[17:16] <Aiena> GridCube can i run it from the windows terminal ?
[17:17] <Aiena> the internet connected machine is a windows os one
[17:17] <anti_> all partitions
[17:17] <GridCube> if you have wget on windows, sure
[17:17] <GridCube> but you can do that on the live session
[17:17] <GridCube> on the windows machine connected to the interwebs
[17:17] <Aiena> hmm can you elaborate
[17:18] <Aiena> you are very resourceful
[17:18] <GridCube> i already told you
[17:18] <Aiena> one sec I will try booting from my live usb
[17:18] <Aiena> on my windows machine
[17:18] <Aiena> hope all things work well because this is a laptop
[17:18] <anti_> GridCube what should i do now ?
[17:19] <GridCube> anti_, try to edit your grub start using "e" and add the nomodeset option
[17:19] <GridCube> i wonder
[17:19] <GridCube> !nomodeset
[17:19] <GridCube> anti_, ^
[17:19] <anti_> yes
[17:22] <anti_> okay how do i do this ive pushed e at start and got a box up to set params
[17:22] <GridCube> press a space and add nomodeset
[17:23] <GridCube> i think thats that
[17:23] <GridCube> if you can get to the livecd you should be able to get to the installed
[17:23] <anti_> i can load the live usb
[17:24] <GridCube> yes
[17:24] <GridCube> well, anti_ where it says stuff like "quiet splash" add a "nomodeset", no "
[17:24] <anti_> every time i push space it moves one space is that correct
[17:26] <anti_> after this is done do i pust f10 to boot
[17:27] <GridCube> it should tell you there somewhere what to do
[17:27] <GridCube> in the screen
[17:28] <GridCube> ctrl-x i think it said, but im not sure
[17:28] <anti_> do i copy it the the way you done it or without the quotes
[17:29] <GridCube> no quotes
[17:29] <GridCube> just add nomodeset after splash
[17:29] <anti_> okay
[17:30] <anti_> okay i hvae xbuntu 12.04 and 4 dots under it
[17:31] <GridCube> thats the splash :3
[17:31] <anti_> but no sign off it working
[17:31] <GridCube> press alt-f1 and you should see leters and numbers
[17:32] <anti_> nope frozen
[17:32] <GridCube> well, this is an advance isnt it?
[17:33] <GridCube> you could try next with acpi=off
[17:33] <GridCube> maybe both?
[17:33] <anti_> okay
[17:33] <GridCube> dunno
[17:33] <anti_> same place
[17:33] <GridCube> i would let ti go trhough tho, wait a while to see if it boots with nomodeset
[17:34] <anti_> okay
[17:34] <GridCube> anti_, yes, acpi=off should go to the same place
[17:34] <anti_> with nonodeset
[17:35] <GridCube> one after the other with spaces separating them
[17:35] <GridCube> the order is irrelevant
[17:35] <anti_> okay
[17:35] <anti_> so
[17:36] <Aiena> GridCube I sucvcessfully booted xubuntu from my pe3ndrive as a live cd on my windows pc with an internet connection cool
[17:36] <anti_> quiet splash nonodeset acpi=off
[17:36] <GridCube> anti_, sure try that
[17:36] <GridCube> Aiena, get the live session running, on a cd/usb/anything, open synaptic, if its not there install it from the ubuntu software center, then update and find the packages you want to intall, for exampple krita, then go to >File >generate package download script. that will generate a downloader script
[17:37] <GridCube> Aiena, run that script from a terminal ./nameofthescript
[17:37] <Aiena> synaptic is intalled fortunately
[17:38] <Aiena> GridCube, I am running it from the machine using an internet connection
[17:38] <Aiena> and I have a persistent usb stick
[17:38] <GridCube> yes, i read you already :)
[17:38] <Aiena> so I can install linux directly right
[17:38] <anti_> okay i will leave it alittle bit see if it boots
[17:38] <GridCube> sure, i guess, i've never done that tho
[17:38] <Aiena> onto the persistent bit of stick
[17:38] <GridCube> anti_, good luck
[17:39] <GridCube> Aiena, sure, i would guess so, yes
[17:39] <GridCube> i dont see why not
[17:39] <Aiena> ok so i marked krita for installation on synaptics
[17:39] <Aiena> then
[17:39] <GridCube> now go to file, save download script
[17:40] <Aiena> if I click apply will it install krita onto the live usb ?
[17:40] <GridCube> it will ask you for a place to save the script, i suggest creating a folder named offline-krita
[17:40] <GridCube> and saving the script there
[17:40] <GridCube> Aiena, yes,
[17:40] <GridCube> but you dont want that now
[17:40] <Aiena> hmm if it installs to the persistant portion of the usb stick
[17:41] <GridCube> you are in a live session yet
[17:41] <Aiena> then the persistent portion will load onto the other machine too right
[17:41] <Aiena> how do i know where is synaptics installing the files ?
[17:41] <GridCube> the files are going to be there
[17:41] <GridCube> you are creating a script, wherever you place the script is whereever the installer files will go
[17:42] <Aiena> ok lets rewind a bit
[17:42] <anti_> okay no boot after 5 mins
[17:42] <GridCube> you are not "installing" if you are downloading the files
[17:42] <Aiena> in synaptcs
[17:42] <Aiena> *synapitcics I have chosen krita
[17:42] <GridCube> you are just downloading the .deb files to install it later on an offline machine
[17:42] <GridCube> anti_, :( too bad
[17:42] <Aiena> ok
[17:43] <Aiena> GridCube, File-> generate package download script
[17:43] <anti_> ummm is there anythink else i can do to get it to work
[17:43] <GridCube> sorry bro i dont know how else to help you, you might have to wait for someone smarter or ask on #grub
[17:43] <Aiena> os that the next step
[17:43] <anti_> okai but thx anyway
[17:44] <Aiena> *is that the next...
[17:44] <anti_> does grub have irc
[17:44] <GridCube> Aiena, yes, save the script to a folder, the persistent folder ofcourse, so when you unplug the usb it stills there
[17:44] <GridCube> anti_, yes, #grub
[17:45] <GridCube> anti_, you paste them the boot-repair link too http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710893
[17:45] <anti_> okayy
[17:45] <GridCube> :)
[17:45] <GridCube> good luck
[17:46] <GridCube> Aiena, once you have the script saved to the destiny folder open a terminal
[17:46] <Aiena> GridCube, the odd thing is that it failed to load the 1 gb partition
[17:46] <Aiena> though it is listed
[17:46] <GridCube> :(
[17:47] <Aiena> should I reboot
[17:47] <GridCube> no
[17:47] <GridCube> there should be the windows partition in the desktop
[17:47] <Aiena> What is the issue
[17:47] <GridCube> save the files there
[17:47] <Aiena> yes the windows partition is there
[17:47] <GridCube> Aiena, i dont know
[17:47] <Aiena> and d: drive is there
[17:47] <Aiena> maybe the non windows partition is safer
[17:47] <GridCube> Aiena, keep in mind that you are downloading the equivalent to windows "setup.exe" files
[17:48] <GridCube> so i doesnt matter where they are, you are going to use them to install later
[17:48] <Aiena> OK thanks :)
[17:49] <anti_> how can i get to there irc
[17:50] <Aiena> GridCube, it geberated the script
[17:50] <Aiena> and I have saved it in the d: drive
[17:50] <GridCube> anti_, /join #grub
[17:51] <GridCube> Aiena, good, it would be better if you move it to a folder to have control of what its there and should be there
[17:51] <anti_> is tht what i have to type in the chat box
[17:51] <GridCube> like i said make a folder named "krita"
[17:51] <GridCube> anti_, yes
[17:51] <Aiena> anti_, yes
[17:52] <Aiena> or "/j #grub"
[17:52] <Aiena> without the quotes
[17:52] <Aiena> GridCube, I am in a folder called " xubuntu apps"  with just the script in it
[17:53] <GridCube> :)
[17:53] <Aiena> so i create a floder called krita inside it
[17:53] <Aiena> and should i move the script insde there
[17:53] <GridCube> perfect. now right click on an empty space in that folder and choose "open terminal here"
[17:53] <GridCube> if you want the files to download tehre, yes
[17:53] <GridCube> the files will download to what ever dir the script its at
[17:53] <Aiena> GridCube, the script has to be moved into the krita folder right
[17:54] <GridCube> if you want the files to download tehre, yes
[17:54] <Aiena> ok chosen open terminal here
[17:54] <GridCube> the files will download to what ever dir the script its at
[17:54] <Aiena> ok thanks
[17:54] <Aiena> I want it there
[17:54] <Aiena> I have opened the terminal
[17:54] <GridCube> Aiena, so now you type ./nameofthescript
[17:55] <Aiena> ok any script extension
[17:55] <GridCube> if you gave it one
[17:55] <Aiena> ok I did not
[17:55] <GridCube> you could have named it .sh,  but thats just a convention
[17:55] <Aiena> its says ./krita permission denied
[17:55] <GridCube> do sudo ./krita
[17:55] <Aiena> krita is the name of the script
[17:56] <GridCube> yes, i figured that :)
[17:56] <Aiena> so ehrn i ran
[17:56] <Aiena> is it not in admin
[17:56] <GridCube> what?
[17:56] <Aiena> why is it saying permission denied
[17:56] <Aiena> bash: ./krita: Permission denied
[17:57] <Aiena> error is appearing
[17:57] <GridCube> with sudo?
[17:57] <Aiena> no sudi
[17:57] <GridCube> sudo ./krita
[17:57] <Aiena> *sudo
[17:57] <Aiena> ok will try
[17:58] <GridCube> :) its working?
[17:58] <Aiena> sudo: ./krita.sh: command not found
[17:58] <Aiena> very weird
[17:58] <Aiena> the script is called krita.sh
[17:58] <Aiena> i renamed it
[17:58] <Aiena> sudo
[17:59] <GridCube> what...
[17:59] <GridCube> :/
[17:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Aiena: You are cd'd to the directory it's in right?
[17:59] <Aiena> I opened the terminal in that directory
[17:59] <Aiena> with the scroipt
[17:59] <GridCube> he opened the terminal on that dir from thunar
[17:59] <Aiena> does it matter if it is running live
[17:59] <Aiena> instead of installed
[17:59] <GridCube> no
[17:59] <GridCube> it should not
[17:59] <GridCube> Aiena, do a ls
[18:00] <Aiena> ls
[18:00] <GridCube> and see if the krita.sh its there
[18:00] <Aiena> listed krita.sh
[18:00] <well_laid_lawn> try using sh krita.sh
[18:00] <GridCube> ok do chmod +x krita.sh
[18:01] <Aiena> i typed " chmod +x krita.sh"  it executed the command successfully but quietly
[18:01] <Aiena> opening another terminal line
[18:02] <Aiena> i typed "chmod +x krita.sh"  it executed the command successfully but quietly
[18:02] <Aiena> "chmod +x krita.sh"
[18:02] <well_laid_lawn> how many times did you chmod it?
[18:02] <Aiena> then
[18:03] <Aiena> one time only
[18:03] <Aiena> well_laid_lawn,
[18:03] <well_laid_lawn> k
[18:03] <well_laid_lawn> ;)
[18:03] <Aiena> so now the shell reads like this
[18:03] <Aiena> xubuntu@xubuntu:/media/Data/xubuntu apps/Krita$ chmod +x krita.sh
[18:03] <Aiena> xubuntu@xubuntu:/media/Data/xubuntu apps/Krita$
[18:03] <GridCube> yes
[18:03] <GridCube> now run ./krita.sh
[18:04] <Aiena> what does chmod do ?
[18:04] <Aiena> xubuntu@xubuntu:/media/Data/xubuntu apps/Krita$ ./krita.sh
[18:04] <GridCube> change the mode of the file, in this case you give it x that its eXecutable
[18:04] <Aiena> bash: ./krita.sh: Permission denied
[18:04] <GridCube> frell
[18:05] <GridCube> why its failing...
[18:05] <GridCube> try this move the script to a livecd folder, to the desktop for example
[18:05] <Aiena> ok
[18:05] <GridCube> and run it from there
[18:06] <Aiena> ok after chmodding the file on desktop it is running
[18:07] <GridCube> :)
[18:07] <GridCube> great :D
[18:07] <Aiena> and downloading a truckload of stuff
[18:07] <GridCube> yes, krita should pull like 1/3 of kde
[18:07] <Aiena> hence creating a messy desktop
[18:07] <Aiena> but no issues
[18:08] <GridCube> Aiena, thats irrelevant XD the directory its just ~/Desktop so you will be fine
[18:08] <anti_> theres no awnser in #grub
[18:08] <Aiena> GridCube, do you think stuff kept on the desktop will be persistent >?
[18:08] <GridCube> :D when it ends copy the files to other media Aiena
[18:08] <GridCube> no
[18:08] <Aiena> ok
[18:09] <GridCube> its a live session, this will go away on a reboot, save the files to a persistent dir, maybe the script didnt work, but a copy paste should
[18:09] <Aiena> GridCube, once I have safely copied all the files into a location on my hardisk
[18:09] <GridCube> anti_, sorry :(
[18:09] <Aiena> can i trial krita from my live distro ?
[18:09] <anti_> its okay
[18:09] <GridCube> sure, why not
[18:09] <GridCube> Aiena, after saving the files you can try using them to install krita itself
[18:10] <GridCube> and not redownloading the files :P
[18:10] <Aiena> I will but one step at a time
[18:10] <Aiena> I am totally new to linux as a whole
[18:10] <GridCube> :) you are doing well
[18:10] <Aiena> so don;t want to go too forward and forget stuff
[18:10] <Aiena> I am used to the commandf line in windows but linux has a different system
[18:11] <Aiena> what do I do if my destop is overflooded with files
[18:11] <Aiena> in this case its overrun the desktop space
[18:11] <Aiena> should have put the krita.sh in a folder in the desktop
[18:14] <Aiena> GridCube, found a solution
[18:14] <Aiena> no wirries :P
[18:14] <Aiena> *worries
[18:14] <GridCube> :)
[18:14] <Aiena> GridCube, is there anyway of knowing how much space a program in linux will take prior to downloading it ?
[18:15] <GridCube> apt-cache showpkg progam
[18:16] <Aiena> hmm how does that work and where to use it ?
[18:17] <GridCube> Aiena, terminal, type it
[18:17] <Aiena> one sec let it finish downloading krita
[18:17] <Aiena> its pretty cool :)
[18:17] <GridCube> but thats not it, it would just show you the package and its dependecies,
[18:17] <GridCube> Aiena, that wont mix with the download tho
[18:18] <Aiena> ok opened another terminal window
[18:18] <GridCube> well i found a way
[18:18] <GridCube> type sudo apt-get install krita
[18:18] <Aiena> yup it showed the dependencies
[18:18] <GridCube> and it will tell you, and ask you if you want to install, say no
[18:19] <Aiena> now its downloading a big deb fiel which is the main krita installer I think
[18:20] <Aiena> ok it failed because the other terminal was busy downloading krita
[18:20] <GridCube> oh?
[18:21] <Aiena> GridCube, Ok
[18:22] <Aiena> downloaded fully
[18:22] <Aiena> now will  uae your command in terminal
[18:22] <Aiena> ubuntu@xubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install krita
[18:22] <Aiena> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:22] <Aiena> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:22] <Aiena> anyways
[18:22] <Aiena> ok
[18:23] <Aiena> GridCube, now that I have all the krita files
[18:23] <Aiena> in a directory
[18:23] <Aiena> on my main hard disk
[18:23] <Aiena> what do I do
[18:23] <GridCube> Aiena, oh, no, it failed because you had synaptic open, not because it was downloading files P:
[18:23] <GridCube> Aiena, well now you can do this,
[18:24] <Aiena> GridCube, should I close synaptics ?
[18:24] <GridCube> no
[18:24] <Aiena> ok
[18:24] <Aiena> what is the next step ?
[18:24] <Aiena> to test krita on the livecd
[18:25] <GridCube> on synaptic go to >File >"load downloaded packages" or however it says in english
[18:25] <Aiena> ok
[18:25] <Aiena> now I selected the directory in which all the krita  debs are stored
[18:25] <GridCube> good
[18:26] <Aiena> then
[18:26] <Aiena> select open
[18:26] <Aiena> ok now its asking to apply the following changes
[18:27] <Aiena> "synaptics" is asking
[18:27] <GridCube> yes
[18:27] <GridCube> you should apply
[18:27] <Aiena> ok applying
[18:27] <Aiena> hmm weird
[18:27] <Aiena> its is again dowloading the package files
[18:27] <GridCube> it is?
[18:27] <Aiena> yes
[18:27] <GridCube> or its just installing?
[18:27] <Aiena> weird
[18:28] <GridCube> maybe its "fake downloading" form the source dir to the /tmp/ install dir?
[18:28] <GridCube> i dunno
[18:28] <Aiena> maybe
[18:28] <Aiena> but it does not look like it
[18:28] <GridCube> mmm
[18:28] <Aiena> because download speeds are network rate
[18:29] <Aiena> when it is only 81 mb
[18:29] <GridCube> i dont know, at least you have the files and in the worst case you can install them manually
[18:29] <Aiena> yes
[18:29] <Aiena> well see
[18:29] <GridCube> :) good lucks
[18:29] <GridCube> i have to go now
[18:29] <Aiena> ok thank you
[18:29] <Aiena> GridCube,
[18:29] <GridCube> :)
[18:30] <ron-slc> Does anybody know why icons are missing in Menu, and Thunar when using VNC in XFCE/Xubuntu ?
[18:30] <GridCube> maybe you dont have permissions to read the icons directory?
[18:31] <Aiena> GridCube, its is actually downloading :P
[18:31] <Aiena> lol
[18:31] <koegs> ron-slc: i suggest using x11vnc, no problems at all using x11vnc as the server
[18:31] <Aiena> anyways
[18:31] <ron-slc> Well when logging in to terminal icons are all there and fine.  But when connecting to system with VNC 90% look blank.
[18:31] <ron-slc> Koegs: Hmm i'll give that a shot
[18:34] <anti__> hi guys i still have that problem and seems that its not a grub problem so im asking if anyone has any new idea on how to fix this
[18:35] <ron-slc> koegs: well!  Much improved!   Is vnc4server now out of maintenance and broken or something?
[18:36] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> anti__, hi, you forgott to pastebin what I asked you to pastebin
[18:36] <anti__> sorry
[18:36] <koegs> ron-slc: i dont know, never used it
[18:37] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> like *Stopping system v initialisation compatibility
[18:37] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> and such
[18:37] <anti__> what was imeant to pastebin
[18:37] <anti__> sorry
[18:37] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> all the black screen content
[18:37] <anti__> brb
[18:37] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> specially the end of it
[18:38] <anti__> brb just doing tea then i will give all details
[18:49] <anti__> okay guys i press esc while booting xubuntu and got a black screen with text movin down the screen nowit stopped after saned disabled ; edit ect/default/saned
[18:51] <anti__> but before that line i got stopping sysem v initialisation compatibility
[18:52] <anti__> is there anyone willing to help with this problem
[18:54] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> I don't know well xubuntu but you could give more lines maybe
[18:55] <GNUtoo-m4a785t-m> or maybe someone could suggest how to enable verbose mode in upstart?
[18:57] <anti__> ill take a picture and uploadit for youguys
[19:32] <xubuntu142> hey guys im reinstalling xunbutu right now is it normal for the "restoreing oldpackeages" bit to take ages?
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Does Ubuntu Studio follow the LTS plan for Xubuntu, or does it have its own LTS plan?
[20:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, is there a plan to reinstate the messaging menu in Xubuntu?
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> xubuntu142: Depends.
[20:04] <SonikkuAmerica> !ping
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello?
[20:19] <David-A> SonikkuAmerica: a f a i k, Ubuntu Studio is a Ubuntu derivative, not specifically an Xubuntu derivative.
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> OK
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Since 11.04 it uses XFCE and GTK+ apps much like Xubuntu does, however
[20:22] <David-A> SonikkuAmerica: http://ubuntustudio.org/tour/ says there is a LTS every 2nd year, so I guess it's the same as for Ubuntu
[20:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Probably a good guess then.
[20:39] <SonikkuAmerica> So does that mean 15.04 is the next Xubuntu LTS?
[20:48] <antisober552> hi guys i can n0w log in but about5 mins after being logged in my pc freezes is there any fix for this
[21:06] <Peyam> Am I the only one who says "khubuntu"
[21:08] <antisober552> hi guys
[21:08] <Peyam> Hi
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Peyam: Probably... I say "eck-soo-boon-too"
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> because "khubuntu" sounds like Kubuntu
[21:18] <Peyam> no
[21:19] <TheSheep> zoobuntu
[21:20] <Peyam> yes
[21:20] <Peyam> I used to say khubuntu
[21:20] <Peyam> kh like in julio 'mexixan jjjj"
[21:22] <David-A> I belive x in the beginning of a word is pronounced different in different cultures and language traditions.
[21:22] <Peyam> David-A: yes
[21:23] <Peyam> I pronounce x lije in 'skellefteå' or like in 'skärholmen'
[21:23] <Peyam> like*
[21:23] <David-A> I would say there is no wrong way (until I saw Peyam's "Me[sch]ico" analogy) :)
[21:23] <Peyam> (y)
[21:26] <Anarchic> hey ppl...i'm trying to setup a microserver running xubuntu. it appears that the OS fails to boot when there is no monitor connected
[21:27] <Anarchic> i think i've found a solution
[21:29] <Shirakawasuna> I say xubuntu as 'x-ubuntu'
[21:29] <Shirakawasuna> is it supposed to be zoobuntu?
[21:30] <Peyam> yes it is zobonto
[21:30] <Shirakawasuna> oh noes
[21:30] <Shirakawasuna> gotta fix what I say then
[21:34] <xubuntu779> Per vedere questa pagina assicurati di avere Adobe Flash Player alla versione 11.3 o superiore installato. come risolvo???
[21:36] <Shirakawasuna> xubuntu779: adobe flash > 11.2 is not supported for all linux browsers. You have to use google chrome (sadly).
[21:39] <xubuntu779> thank you, but the first attempt went off all (Massimo)
[21:42] <aiena> For flash in xubuntu which version do we install ?
[21:42] <aiena> the ubuntu 10.4 version ?
[21:44] <Peyam> flash?
[21:44] <Peyam> flash player?
[21:45] <aiena> peyam yup flash player
[21:48] <David-A> aiena: the package "flashplugin-installer" in software center and synaptic should install the latest available flash player.
[21:51] <aiena> thanks
[21:51] <aiena> Bye
[21:51] <aiena> cya
[21:53] <anti_> hi guys i have a problem
[21:54] <anti_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[21:54] <anti_> can someone help me fix this
[21:54] <bekks> anti_: Did you run your command using sudo?
[21:55] <anti_> yes i get the same
[21:55] <anti_> its when i try to install an tool
[21:56] <bekks> Sowhioch command do you run exactly?
[21:56] <bekks> *So which
[21:57] <anti_> sudo apt-get -f -y install && apt-get -y install m4 automake autoconf make gcc libtool
[21:57] <bekks> there is sudo missing before the second apt-get
[21:57] <anti_> oh damn thanks
[21:59] <anti_> well that fied my problem lol
[21:59] <anti_> ive managed to get xubuntu to work on my pc
[22:00] <anti_> could you help me with this problem
[22:01] <anti_> ./start.sh: line 9: php: command not found
[22:01] <bekks> You have to install the php cli :)
[22:01] <anti_> no
[22:01] <bekks> Yes
[22:02] <bekks> Without installing the php cli you cant run the php cli.
[22:02] <anti_> i need to install php cli
[22:02] <anti_> so whats the package name
[22:03] <anti_> cause i can do it this way cant i sudo apt-get install phpcli
[22:03] <bekks> php5-cli is the package name.
[23:49] <JainAmber> Hello
[23:50] <JainAmber> I'm using Xubuntu 12.04.2. I have removed the panel/dock located at the bottom of the screen. Now I'll like to move the panel (at the top of the screen) to the bottom... How can I do so?
[23:50] <JainAmber> I want the top panel to appear at the bottom of the screen.
[23:52] <Cheri703> right click on the panel, go to "panel" or "panel preferences" from there you can change options
[23:52] <Cheri703> you may need to unlock it to turn on grab handles so you can drag it to the bottom
[23:56] <Guest2396> hi there
[23:57] <Guest2396> setting - two finger scrolling (for my touch pad) waqs enabled by me
[23:57] <Guest2396> but how can i disable - scrolling with one finger&?
[23:59] <JainAmber> Thanks a lot, Cheri703!
[23:59] <Cheri703> sure!