soeegood morning05:48
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apacheloggerQuintasan: hm?07:56
lordievaderGood morning07:59
apacheloggerScottK: konversation doesn't anymore08:26
apacheloggerScottK: about message-indicator suppport ... the patch set was never upstreamed so it got dropped08:26
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: not likely 08:28
apacheloggerwhat happened was that I tried to install $packages, so it happily started downloading and even install (?) and then it explodes because it could not resolve dep from lang-pack-fr to lang-pack-fr-base because lang-pack-fr-base 404'd because the cached url was outdated08:30
apacheloggeri.e. apt-get check reports dep breakage08:30
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: perhaps you still have the lock in the worker when we get the error in the kcm?08:32
apacheloggerreload would cause trouble then I guess08:32
apacheloggermoar untranslated strings :S08:36
smartboyhwapachelogger, :S08:38
apacheloggerRiddell: good news, polkit and sudo apps both are fixed by setting LANG08:38
apacheloggeralas I am still not sure about how to best map from wha tthe kcm knows to what we need for LANG08:40
apacheloggerwhy rekonq has a stray untranslated 'Open' in the menu is beyond me btw08:40
Riddellapachelogger: oh? how did that happen?08:41
apacheloggerI looked at the code and it all seemed to be in order, actually it uses kcfg there so there it's not like one could accidentially break localization08:41
apacheloggerRiddell: https://trello.com/c/N62xNEvC08:41
apacheloggerwell, it's not a stray entry it's just not translated amongst many translated entries ^^08:42
RiddellI'd think Open comes from a kstdaction no?08:42
apacheloggernope it's declared in the rekonqui.rc 08:42
apacheloggerwith string08:42
apacheloggerthat being said, Open is in the kdelibs pot, so technically it should fall back to that which either is not working because the kdelibs Open has no accelerator set or it is at a different position or l10n is simply turned off somehow08:44
apacheloggerit's apparently latter08:44
apacheloggermsgid "&Tools"08:45
apacheloggermsgstr "E&xtras"08:45
apacheloggerscreenshot says Tools though08:45
apacheloggerQDomDocument document("rekonqui.rc");08:49
* apachelogger looks at Riddell08:49
apacheloggertsdgeos: ping09:25
tsdgeosapachelogger: hi09:28
apacheloggertsdgeos: heya, when using a library that requires i18n, the library user is meant to insertCatalog, right?09:31
xnoxi was building QtGui but not installing it, lol.09:32
tsdgeosmodern solution is to use KCatalogLoader in your library09:32
apacheloggertsdgeos: thanks09:32
apacheloggertsdgeos: oh that is one fancy feature, feels like we are in the future :D09:33
tsdgeosnote it only works for dynamic libs, not static09:34
tsdgeosbut i guess you're not evil static doer09:34
apacheloggerkde rev 1347319.09:59
ubottuhttp://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1347319&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1347319 | doc: Catalan works -- kdeedu: 100% translated ;-) * Step: Finish tranlation, add screnshots and build the doc. * Rocs: Fix a typo and rebuild the d...10:00
apacheloggerRiddell: ping10:50
Quintasanapachelogger: don't hm me10:53
Quintasan1) people are whining about dragon10:53
apacheloggerQuintasan: hm?10:54
apacheloggerRiddell: why are we not using language-selector anymore btw?10:54
apacheloggerother than being badly integrated with the rest of the workspace10:54
apacheloggerQuintasan: so?10:54
Quintasan2) I remember you saying our VLC packages are bad, care to explain?10:54
apacheloggerwhich reminds me10:54
QuintasanI'm asking because some people recently had mkv files freezing their PC (again)10:55
Quintasanusing VLC of course10:55
apacheloggersend them to #videolan?10:55
QuintasanI had something else to ask but I forgot what was that10:57
Riddellapachelogger: language-selector was going to be unmaintained11:07
yofel__wasn't the original reason language-selector moving to py3?11:09
Riddellthat too11:10
Riddell"Michał Zając (quintasan) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members" yay Quintasan still loves us!11:15
QuintasanLike hell I would leave for no important reason11:16
yofel__apachelogger: if you're already looking at l10n, could you take a quick glance on bug 1168682? Supposedly fixed in git11:18
ubottubug 1168682 in lightdm-kde (Ubuntu) "(German) translation not loaded completely in LightDM KCM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116868211:18
smartboyhwRiddell, if Quintasan doesn't love us I would report a critical bug.11:18
smartboyhwAgainst the Kubuntu project:P11:18
yofel__there is no such thing as a kubuntu project ^^ (at least not on lunchpad)11:18
smartboyhwyofel__: Boo11:19
smartboyhwProbably send an e-mail to Kubuntu Devel mailing list then?11:19
BluesKaj'Morning all11:19
yofel__smartboyhw: there never was a need for it so far...11:20
smartboyhwyofel__: Kidding.11:21
* smartboyhw thinks yofel__ shouldn't think of smartboyhw serious in these matters:P11:21
yofel__you had a too high dose of apachelogger obviously11:22
smartboyhwyofel__: I don't know apachelogger is a liquid:O11:22
* smartboyhw runs11:22
yofel__it's liquified ingenuity :P11:23
smartboyhwyofel__: LOL11:23
apacheloggeryofel__: lol, why do you think a fix magically appeared two days ago? :P11:28
apacheloggerRiddell: I think we can actually drop our patch to startkde11:28
apacheloggerthe kcm makes me think that klocale now correctly defaults to the system country when nothing is set11:29
brestowsтемная сторона во всей красе :-D11:30
smartboyhw!ru | brestows 11:30
ubottubrestows: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.11:30
* yofel__ hugs apachelogger 11:32
BluesKajwish i could get rid of stuff like akonadi , especially updates like akonadi-facebook ..toyally useless to me11:35
BluesKajwaste of space11:36
smartboyhwRiddell, you will sort of like http://smartboyhw.tk/wordpress_smartboyhw/?p=4911:43
Riddellsmartboyhw: cool!11:48
soeeafter trying to install latest nvidia drivers @ my home PC 11:52
soeemy x server won't start anymore :/11:52
soeei spent 2 hours trying to fix this, removing nvidia, reinstalling nuovau driver etc11:53
soeeand the best i could get was loading screen (hdd icon shows, settings icon shows) and than bah - black screen with some complains about intel stuff, kernel stuff etc :011:54
soeenever seen thah before and whats more, after restart some strange things happens in bios, 11:55
soeei have message Waiting for M ... something and counter 9 .8. .. 0 and ... reboot oO11:55
soeeand this time grup gets loaded but the same happens as i said at the begining11:56
BluesKajsoee, latest nvidia drivers are suspect on some cards11:56
BluesKajand so is jockey , fails to install properly 11:57
soeeBluesKaj, yes i had problems with installing any drivers11:58
soeeand the jokey message each time11:58
BluesKajsoee, did you try nvidia-current driver ? It seems to be the most stable driver so far , for my setup anyway11:59
soeeBluesKaj, yes i even tried it install from terminal but after reboot i had only white underscore pulsing on black screen12:00
soeeBluesKaj, and trying to install it from Drivers window results with jokey error12:01
BluesKajso have you updated/upgraded lately 12:02
yofel__smartboyhw: nice, a better testdrive is always great!12:31
smartboyhwyofel__ ;)12:31
apacheloggerRiddell: I have a working patch for kcm_locale + LANG ... sets LANG and LANGUAGE in ~/.kde/env/setlocale.sh which seems to work fin12:51
apacheloggerRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/725600/13:04
apacheloggerin case you want to test it13:04
apacheloggerI am out for today; will push that patch tomorrow13:05
QuintasanBluesKaj: Akonadi is essential part of KDEPIM, we can't just get rid of it, as for the Facebook part, you can just remove it I think13:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: that's what microsoft said13:10
Quintasanapachelogger: Since when Microsoft has to do anything with Akonadi?13:11
QuintasanHow is IE related to Akonadi?13:12
Riddellhe is making a satirical comment on "you can just remove it"13:12
Riddellwhich is what MS said about IE13:12
yofel__BluesKaj, Quintasan : FWIW: https://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/11/hackweek9-lightweight-kde-desktop-project-updated13:12
Quintasan>kan't fit13:13
QuintasanOH ALL THE K'S13:13
Quintasan>Lennart Pöttering about the systemd13:14
QuintasanI can see where is this heading13:14
BluesKajQuintasan, I'm considering ubuntu minimal, then installing the the kde-plasma-desktop and some required gtklibs for stuff like synaptic etc13:14
QuintasanBluesKaj: Feel free to do so. I can't really offer you any solution to that.13:15
yofel__I personally don't let the disk space argument count when it comes to akonadi and nepomuk. The runtime files themselves are so small that it's not worth to worry about it13:15
QuintasanBluesKaj: As for the akonadi-facebook and Akonadi being useless -> http://xkcd.com/1172/13:16
yofel__removing kdepim is another thing13:16
RiddellScottK: did you say something a while ago about the tech board being sympathetic to owncloud being updated including built in php modules?13:16
Quintasanremoving kdepim? -> http://xkcd.com/1172/13:16
BluesKajyofel__, kdepim is what I'm trying to avoid13:18
yofel__BluesKaj: we're trying to provide an OOTB usable system so removability of kdepim is no priortiy feature. If you can find exactly what prevents it from being removed I could take a look at it.13:21
yofel__akonadi isn't really designed to be removed - at least not right now13:21
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Riddellkubotu: newversion lightdm-kde 0.3.214:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1169596 in lightdm-kde (Ubuntu) "Please update lightdm-kde to 0.3.2" [Undecided,New]14:32
smartboyhwRiddell, you mean for S-series?14:37
smartboyhwOr R?14:37
smartboyhwGee R14:37
smartboyhwI mean the lightdm-kde update14:38
Riddellsmartboyhw: it would be good for r but it seems to have a bug14:39
Riddellsmartboyhw: can you confirm the kcm is broken? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/lightdm-kde-greeter_0.3.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb14:39
smartboyhwRiddell, eh wait14:39
smartboyhwRiddell, what module are you using when the KCM is proved not working?14:45
smartboyhwAh kcm_lightdm14:45
smartboyhwRiddell, great doesn't work for me too14:45
Riddellat least it's consistent :)14:46
Riddellkubotu: newversion homerun 0.2.215:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1169616 in homerun (Ubuntu) "Please update homerun to 0.2.2" [Undecided,New]15:25
smartboyhwRiddell: Tomorrow probably:P15:26
smartboyhwHey jalcine! How's SII?15:38
Riddellwhat's SII?15:39
smartboyhwRiddell: Synthetic Intellect Institute. Some sort of organization (open-source) that works on A.I.15:40
smartboyhwRiddell: Hmm where's murthy these days?16:01
yofellast I heard he was having exams (IIRC)16:01
smartboyhwyofel: Oh that's why.16:01
smartboyhws/shade/shadeslayer, how many times have you said "heh" in here?16:07
shadeslayerthere's a history behind the 'heh'16:07
shadeslayeryou probably don't know about it :P16:07
* smartboyhw listens to shadeslayer16:08
shadeslayerthat's what I said for the past 3 years when I had exams16:08
shadeslayer"I'm unavailable, because, exams"16:08
shadeslayerand I had exams every week16:08
smartboyhwshadeslayer: I will do that also from mid-May to mid-June...16:09
smartboyhwshadeslayer: exams EVERY WEEK!?16:09
smartboyhwI have bunch of tests every week:P16:09
shadeslayerthats university16:09
shadeslayerfor eg. I rarely see Quintasan around now :P16:10
shadeslayerreason? University :P16:10
smartboyhwshadeslayer: yeah16:10
smartboyhwshadeslayer: I'm in secondary 3 and I got loads of tests.16:11
shadeslayerSchool barely has any tests at all16:13
shadeslayerRiddell: does Plasma Active + Kubuntu work on the N7?16:15
shadeslayeri.e. just flashing ubuntu-touch and then installing kde packages16:15
Riddellshadeslayer: it installs and runs but I couldn't get any touch to work with qml16:16
shadeslayeroh wow16:16
shadeslayerit actually runs?16:16
shadeslayerbecause for me nothing runs when using ubuntu-touch stuff16:17
shadeslayercan't even start X16:17
shadeslayersurfaceflinger keeps interfering16:17
Quintasanshadeslayer: lol no16:20
QuintasanI'm just lazy16:20
Quintasanthat's it16:20
Riddellshadeslayer: you have a nexus 7?16:22
shadeslayerjust the n10 that you sent me16:22
Riddelltried the nexus images?16:23
shadeslayerI tried the ubuntu-touch images16:23
shadeslayerbut now me and ChickenCutlass have been trying to get a ubuntu rootfs booting directly16:24
shadeslayerso far I have a kernel that can boot the initrd but no framebuffer, nothing on the screen except for a weird colored fastboot logo16:24
shadeslayerthe ubuntu-touch team say they're planning to have a ubuntu rootfs and an android container inside of ubuntu ( the opposite of what currently happens )16:25
RiddellBlizzz: hmm my owncloud backport doesn't want to work, any idea how to debug? http://ec2-54-242-221-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/16:27
* shadeslayer looks16:27
shadeslayerwhat's not working?16:28
Riddellshadeslayer: if I make an account it juts gives me a blank page16:28
Riddellmysql is root/a16:28
Riddellgo ahead and try16:28
shadeslayerusername root, password is just 'a' ?16:29
shadeslayerI got a Http error 500 xD16:29
Riddellah hah16:29
Riddell[Tue Apr 16 16:29:18 2013] [error] [client] PHP Fatal error:  Cannot make non static method PEAR::isError() static in class MDB2_Schema in /usr/share/owncloud/3rdparty/MDB2/Schema.php on line 2767, referer: http://ec2-54-242-221-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/index.php16:29
RiddellI wonder what that means16:30
shadeslayernope, can't even start an account16:31
QuintasanRiddell: So, what happened to those business cards in the end?17:44
RiddellQuintasan: still on the todo :(18:38
RiddellQuintasan: feel free to do it :)18:44
Riddellright, testers needed for http://ec2-54-242-221-3.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/18:48
Riddelllogin: a  pass: a18:48
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.18:48
shadeslayerRiddell: got it to work ?18:49
yofelgot the db error fixed?18:49
Riddellshadeslayer: yep18:49
Riddellyofel: the php error yes18:50
Riddellbut that doesn't mean it's not broken somewhere else18:50
lordievaderRiddell: I can login fine, but it is empty.18:50
Riddellit's not like there's a compiler to check with these things18:50
Riddelllordievader: so upload some music :)18:50
* Riddell uploads Valley of the Sausages18:51
Riddellit's a classic18:51
shadeslayerdoes owncloud have a hard dep on Apache BTW ?18:51
lordievaderI'll upload some of my own music ;) Full-rights and all :)18:51
Riddellshadeslayer: mm dunno, hard dep on php obviously18:52
Riddellwhat other web server is there?18:52
yofelseems to work?18:52
Riddelldoes it work with php?18:52
macoany web server should work with php18:52
shadeslayerthat's what I use for glaedr.dyndns.org/own cloud18:53
Riddellshadeslayer: lighttpd?18:53
lordievaderRiddell: The mp3's don't show up in the music tab, not even after rescanning.18:53
lordievaderAh nvm, I can't look anymore -.-18:54
shadeslayerApache takes up too much memory 18:54
macomy server used to have trouble with apache using so much memory my mysql would be OOM killed18:54
macowhich is why i dont use apache anymore18:54
lordievaderHmm doesn't play the mp3's though...18:54
Riddelllordievader: works for me18:54
shadeslayerhe he he18:54
Riddellis that you singing?18:54
yofelwell, the default apache config is overkill for most situations18:54
shadeslayermaco: same issue 18:54
yofelyou can make it use a bit less resources18:55
yofel(no, you don't need 5 instances to start out with)18:55
lordievaderRiddell: Yes, can there only be one user streaming music?18:55
shadeslayermaco: I use lighttpd + MySQL now18:55
macoshadeslayer: im on nginx18:55
* yofel is on apache + pqsql18:55
Riddelllordievader: maybe but I don't see why18:55
shadeslayerlower mem consumption ?18:55
shadeslayerI only have 256 mb18:56
lordievaderAh it is Chrome related, FF works.18:56
yofelnginx is pretty low on resource usage18:56
shadeslayerwow typing on an android tablet is so hard :/18:56
* skellat is responsible for ARM board shots uploaded18:56
shadeslayerI have to use both my hands :-( 18:57
lordievaderTo me the owncloud thing seems to work :)19:01
Riddellgroovy thanks lordievader 19:05
Riddellskellat: what's that?19:06
shadeslayerlooks like a beagle board19:08
skellatRiddell: Which?  BeagleBoard-xM, BeagleBoard-xM with SheevaPlug, and BeagleBoard-xM with Raspberry Pi Model B19:08
skellatSadly the SheevaPlug is rather quite bricked19:08
lordievaderRiddell: No problem ;)19:09
shadeslayerOK I am off to sleep19:10
shadeslayernight everyone :-) 19:11
lordievaderSleep well, shadeslayer 19:11
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ovidiu-florinI have my env set up according to the techbase tutorial on building a single application. I have this script: http://paste.kde.org/725678/ . When I make && make install on kdepim, the install failes because it tries to copy to /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.kde.kalarmrtcwake.policy . How can I set up my enviroment so that file is installed in my dev env and not in my system?19:42
Riddellovidiu-florin: set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX19:44
ovidiu-florinRiddell: set it to the dev home dir or the install dir?19:44
Riddellto whereve you want to install the files19:45
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I used this cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$KDE_DEVELOPMENT_PATH -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull ../../src/kdepim/19:46
ovidiu-florinis this not good?19:46
ovidiu-florinI did this as instructed on the techbase website19:46
Riddellovidiu-florin: looks good19:48
ovidiu-florinthen why does it try to copy org.kde.kalarmtcwake.policy to /usr/share/...19:48
Riddellprobably there's some other variable needing set19:49
Riddelluse ccmake to find out what19:49
* ovidiu-florin googles ccmake19:50
ovidiu-florinRiddell: should I just run the same command but using ccmake?19:55
ovidiu-florininstead of cmake19:55
Riddellovidiu-florin: ccmake ../../src/kdepim/19:56
ovidiu-florinwithout specifing those params?19:57
Riddellovidiu-florin: try it19:58
ovidiu-florinKDE4_AUTH_POLICY_FILES_INSTALL has that location. I could set it to a custom value, but do I have to create a custom /usr/share/polkit-1/actions in my dev env?20:04
Riddellnow that I've no idea20:06
Riddelldepends where polkit looks I guess20:06
Riddellit probably only looks in /usr/share/polkit-1/20:07
Riddellmore owncloud testage needed20:07
ubottuHelp is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.20:07
lordievaderRiddell: Music playback in Chromium is still broken for the Owncloud. Not sure if this is a Chromium issue or an Owncloud issue.20:31
RiddellScottK: bug 1079150 updated20:31
ubottubug 1079150 in owncloud (Ubuntu) "Remove obsolete versions of owncloud " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107915020:31
yofelRiddell: what's there to test this time?20:31
Riddellyofel: that it all works on oneiric http://ec2-54-224-200-200.compute-1.amazonaws.com/owncloud/20:31
Riddellyofel: you can also mark it on bug 1079150 I suppose (although it'll need tested again if it gets into -proposed)20:32
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I tried setting the variable to my dev path to the dirs I've created, and it still tries to copy the file to /usr/share/.... instead of the dev env20:41
Riddellkubotu: newversion lightdm-kde
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1169732 in lightdm-kde (Ubuntu) "Please update lightdm-kde to" [Undecided,New]21:19

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