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Genyartesting00:37
GenyarWho is here?00:37
GenyarAm I alone?00:38
GenyarHow many users are here?00:38
GenyarThis is an IRC test by a neophyte00:39
Artakhayou are alone in the dark dark void of #zandronum00:40
Artakhaoh wait wrong channel00:40
Genyardamn00:41
Artakhayou are alone in the dark dark void of #kubuntu then :P00:41
* Artakha brainfart00:41
GenyarIt says there are 241 users here00:41
Artakhait is a lie00:41
GenyarBut I only see one user chatting besides me00:41
Artakha(there's actually 224)00:41
Artakha244, agh00:41
Artakhaanyway uh not all of them are active00:41
GenyarI have never been here before00:42
GenyarAre there computer techs here?00:42
Artakhawelcome to irc then :P00:42
Genyarthank you00:42
Artakhaas for computer techs.. that's quite a vague term00:42
dagobertohola00:43
GenyarI am looking for computer gurus who are knowledgeable with Kubuntu00:43
dagobertoalgien hay00:43
Genyarand Linux00:43
Artakhaif you have a problem then you're best off going straight to the point00:43
GenyarI want to update my internet security00:44
GenyarAnd I would like to find out why I'm getting unencrypted warnings of third party threats when using Firefox00:45
dagobertoalgien de chile???00:45
GenyarI am using Kubuntu 11.04, and I am getting warnings from Firefox, that I have requested an encrypted page that contains unencrypted info that can be read by a 3rd party00:47
Genyarit happens whenever I go on Yahoo chess or YouTube00:48
GenyarIs this an IRC chatroom?00:51
Artakhawell00:52
Artakhayes this is an irc chatroom00:52
Genyarok00:52
Genyarso, can you help me?00:52
Artakhawell i'm not exactly sure what that message is but i don't bother with it00:52
Artakhayou could ask #mozilla or whatever their channel is00:52
Artakhaoh, no it's #firefox00:52
GenyarHow do I get there?00:52
Artakhatype /join #firefox as if it were just text00:53
Artakhaanything that begins with a / is an irc client command00:53
Genyarok, I should try it now?00:53
Artakhai guess?00:53
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Genyareveryone is leaving?02:57
rottingdeadHmm, what's going on with Kubuntu that doesn't like my system? It keeps freezing up or something, I can't even install it, =(.03:16
rottingdeadI know it's something to do with my computer here, had somebody else check it, worked fine on their system.03:18
mrnganE: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.04:43
mrnganhelp>>04:43
mrnganerror E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.04:43
mrngan????04:43
zeekzackhello there...i m in bit of trouble..05:05
zeekzackmy kubuntu desktop in not showing after login except blank background and cursor05:06
zeekzackcan somebody tell how to get out of it??05:07
valoriezeekzack: can you login to a console?05:23
valorieactually, it sounds as if you are in one05:24
zeekzackin recovery mode , i got access to root shell05:24
zeekzacki tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but it dint work05:24
valoriefrom ubuntu?05:25
zeekzackright now logged in to desktop pc..05:25
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valoriezeekzack: you might try 'apt-get -f install' from a console05:26
valoriesee if whatever got kludged, gets unstuck05:26
valoriefrom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto05:27
zeekzackbtw this problem happened after i got my machine accidently powered off05:28
valorieyes, that might help05:29
valorielinux is often easy to heal05:29
valoriebut pulling the plug is usually not a good thing05:30
zeekzacki know...it was by mistake05:30
zeekzackhow to get out of this??05:31
valorieyou might try 'apt-get -f install' from a console05:31
valorieI gave you the link about apt05:31
valorie!apt05:31
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)05:31
zeekzacki know basic of it..but in recovery mode root shell i hv tried various commands including "apt-get update" and "apt-get -f install"05:32
zeekzackbut failed05:33
valorieby failed, what do you mean?05:33
zeekzacki dont remember the exact error message..05:33
valorie:(05:34
valorieexact error messages are important05:34
valoriewhat happens when you try again?05:34
zeekzackeven when i tried to open an application from there, it said 'cannot conncet to x server'05:35
valorieyou can try 'sudo restart lightdm' if you have  recent version05:37
valoriesudo restart gdm if it's an older ubuntu05:37
zeekzack1when i type apt-get -f install, i get following05:51
zeekzack10 upgraded, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded05:52
valorie:(05:52
zeekzack1when i type 'kate' in root shell of recovery mode i got 'connect to X server'05:52
valoriedid you see my suggestion about  'sudo restart lightdm'05:53
valorieor sudo restart gdm if it's an older ubuntu05:53
zeekzack1i was logged off...05:53
zeekzack1trying this now05:53
hateballSeems more likely to be kdm than gdm, if it's Kubuntu05:54
zeekzack1i got "restart: unknown job"05:54
valoriehateball: he was just trying to install kubuntu05:54
hateballvalorie: Alright05:54
valorieso try with gdm and kdm05:55
valorieit generally is going to be one of the three05:55
zeekzack1got "unknown instance"05:55
zeekzack1let me rephrase my problem:05:55
hateballAlso wouldnt you want to do "sudo service lightdm restart", or "sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart"  ?05:56
hateballor any of the other login managers05:56
zeekzack1while using kubuntu, my desktop accidently cut off from power, when started it again, after loggin again i got only a blank background and cursor..05:56
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valoriehateball: I guess that is worth trying, but I believe that's the old way05:57
hateballzeekzack1: so you were actually presented with a login screen?05:58
valorie!xserver05:58
valorie!x05:58
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution05:58
valorieha, ubottu agrees with you, hateball05:59
valoriebut since lightdm is left out, I still think that's ol05:59
valorieold05:59
hateballIf you were presented with a graphical login screen, and it stopped working after that, I'd assume the KDE configs got messed up. So one could try moving the KDE config to a backup and login again05:59
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zeekzack1_hateball: got unrecognized service when i typed sudo service lightdm restart06:06
zeekzack1_hateball, valorie: sorry guyz, due to this old xp pc, was disconnected06:06
hateballzeekzack1_: Then you can try "sudo service kdm restart"06:07
hateballI don't know which release you're using, and even so you could still choose to be on kdm rather than lightdm, so06:08
zeekzack1_after applying command and logging in got this: Warning : Cannot open consoleKit session Unable to open session Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_spocket:06:09
zeekzack1_i m using kubuntu 12.04 with linux kernel 3.2.3706:10
zeekzack1_now same black background with only cursor appears...06:10
zeekzack1_nothing else..06:10
hateballzeekzack1_: ok, you can try this back in the console then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"06:11
zeekzack1_dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read only file system..06:13
valorie!06:15
zeekzack1_hateball: der??06:15
valoriethis sounds really badly hosed06:15
zeekzack1_valorie: unfortunately i m stuck here...i have to get out of this soon..06:20
valorieyou didn't say what was installed before you tried to add kubuntu-desktop06:25
zeekzack1_i have been using kubuntu 12.04...in order to get back to normal situation, i thoght i should try to install again from shell kubuntu desktop06:27
zeekzack1_i think u got me wrong sumwhere06:27
valorieah06:27
valoriewhat was wrong before you tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop?06:28
valorieand did you purge first, or what?06:28
valorieyou never told the whole story06:28
zeekzack1_telling again whole scenario:my desktop was cut off from power accidently..next tym i logged in startup screen of kubuntu, i got only blackscreen...there were no windows or icon or anything else...06:30
zeekzack1_so i rebooted again, and went to recovery mode from grub06:30
zeekzack1_where i choose root shell prompt..06:30
zeekzack1_nd tried some commands there..06:31
valorieI see06:31
zeekzack1_r u getting my situation??06:31
valorieyes06:31
valorieit may be time to re-install, after backing up your ~/home to other media06:32
valoriewhen the xserver and dpkg don't work, your system is rather severely damaged06:32
zeekzack1_when i change directory to home and apply 'ls' nothing shows up...so how to backup things??06:34
valorie!06:35
valoriethat explains a lot, zeekzack1_06:36
valorieif you have lost your home dir, you've lost your config files06:36
zeekzack1_so any way to recover them??06:37
valoriewell, there are ways to get raw files from hard drives06:37
valoriebut you have to think about whether or not that's worthwhile06:37
valorieif it wasn't worth backing up before, is it worth the work to recover it?06:38
zeekzack1_:-D06:39
valorie!dd06:40
valorieif you are interested, look at DD and DDrescue06:41
zeekzack1_okay, googling it...thanks!06:44
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zeekzack1_valorie: when i boot from usb, i can see my whole hdd intact..06:53
valoriecool!06:53
valoriein that case, backing up would be worthwhile06:54
valorieand then reinstall06:54
zeekzack1_is there a way to repair current installation?06:55
valorieyou can chance it without backing up06:55
valoriebut that sounds risky06:55
valoriebackup drives are getting cheaper all the time06:56
valoriemy 1.5 T drive is much cheaper than when I bought it a year ago06:56
zeekzack1_:-D so i m backing up in my external...i own one06:56
valoriegreat!06:56
lordievaderGood morning07:59
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BluesKaj'Morning all11:19
yossarianukhey11:22
yossarianuk(offtopic but this is mental - Westboro baptist church going to picket the funerials of the dead in boston .... )11:32
monkeyjuicewhy would you care what they do .11:32
bazhangyossarianuk, #kubuntu-offtopic11:33
yossarianukok - sorry just amazed and outraged.... will remain on-topic.....11:34
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MmikeHello. When I click on 'additional drivers' and select a driver marked with a green dot, the text at the bottom of the window says 'this driver is activated but currently not in use'15:03
Mmikehow do I make it 'being in use'?15:03
Mmikei'm using kubuntu 12.10 (upgraded from 12.04), with nvidia-current (304.something)15:03
ovidiu-florinis Muon part of KDE or kubuntu?15:12
genii-aroundovidiu-florin: I'm pretty sure it's Kubuntu stufff15:15
ovidiu-florinfor the update part does it have a cronjob or something like that?15:16
ovidiu-florincould it be ported to Arch?15:16
genii-aroundovidiu-florin: You'd probably have to find one of the developers like Jonathan Thomas and ask them.15:21
ovidiu-florinis that one or two persons?15:29
genii-aroundovidiu-florin: 115:37
ovidiu-florinhow do I find him?15:38
genii-aroundovidiu-florin: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/15:39
smartboyhwHmm why do you need JontheEchidna?15:40
ovidiu-florinI was thinking to port Muon to Arch linux if that's possible15:41
ovidiu-florinI have to go now, I'll be back in a couple of hours ;)15:42
smartboyhwovidiu-florin: Better discussion on #kubuntu-devel15:42
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OhadIs there anyone here that can support?16:15
Ohad^^16:16
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lordievaderOhad: Sure there is ;)16:16
lordievader!ask16:17
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:17
OhadIt consists of some16:17
Ohadin crontab16:17
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Ohad^^16:17
genii-aroundWe require more detailed information on your goal or specific problem16:18
OhadI'm trying to create a file in crontab it does not save us16:19
totalanonymousi need your help :) ... well i just want to set up a VPN connection via network manager and i need to set a chiffre  but i cannot select one . It says something like  "cant find Open-VPN-chiffre"16:28
totalanonymousideas ?16:28
sonofzeushi16:29
totalanonymoushi16:29
sonofzeushttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LXDE_desktop_full.png how shall I getvthis theme?16:29
sonofzeusive lxde installed16:30
totalanonymousu need to install lxde as your  desktop manager16:30
sonofzeusi have lxde installed already16:30
totalanonymousok then u can select it at your login screen  there must be a small symbol  and by clicking on it u can selecte which manager u want to use16:31
sonofzeuswell i have lubuntu installed with lxde but still I cant se that theme.16:32
totalanonymousits not a theme its a complete different windows manager16:32
sonofzeusyeah its lxde right?16:33
sonofzeusi have lxde installed16:33
totalanonymousand by doing what i told u before u can change from ubuntu "unity" to  lxde16:33
sonofzeusokay hold on i will try that.16:34
totalanonymousk16:34
sonofzeusplease wait bud.16:34
sonofzeusthc16:34
sonofzeusthx16:34
sonofzeusim at the login screen16:35
totalanonymouswhile u are writing with me ? :)16:36
sonofzeusyes im on a mobile16:36
sonofzeusandroid16:36
totalanonymousok :D ... ok next to the prompt where u can type in your password there must be a symbol16:36
totalanonymousclick on it16:37
sonofzeusa blue one with a stickman pic16:37
sonofzeusits on the top right16:37
totalanonymousok a list appears and it probably says something like  Unity , LXDE, TWM  and so on16:37
sonofzeusnah16:38
sonofzeusit just says lubuntu lubuntu net book and openbox16:38
totalanonymousit is lubuntu16:39
totalanonymouslubuntu is ubuntu using lxde16:39
sonofzeusyes i know16:39
sonofzeusbut i still cant see the theme in the pic16:39
sonofzeuslol16:39
sonofzeusI want to install the theme in the pic16:40
totalanonymouswhich theme ? the background ?16:40
sonofzeusyes16:41
totalanonymousmaybe you  right click at your desktop @ desktop preferences16:42
totalanonymousunder wallpaper  its not included ?16:42
sonofzeusok?16:42
sonofzeusnah16:42
ti_tux@sonofzeus your theme is named nuoveXT216:42
sonofzeuswhere can i find it?16:42
sonofzeusti tux16:43
ti_tuxyou can find it as lxde-icon-theme in the repos16:43
sonofzeusis installing themes safe?16:43
sonofzeusjust a noob16:43
ti_tuxof course ! it is in the ubuntu repos16:44
sonofzeushow to open the repos sorry16:44
ti_tuxtype in a terminal sudo apt-get install lxde-icon-theme16:45
ti_tuxto install the theme16:45
sonofzeusim on lubuntu is that ok?16:45
ti_tuxit's ok16:45
sonofzeusthe command16:45
sonofzeusk16:45
sonofzeusthx a lot man16:46
ti_tuxdon't worry about that, it's the same for all debian based distros16:46
ti_tuxfor the wallpaper you should find it /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/16:48
ti_tux*at16:48
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sonofzeusstupid q but how do i open terminal on a lubuntu pc16:58
sonofzeuspls help16:59
sonofzeusnvm i think its lxterminal17:01
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sonofzeushey ti tux i installed it17:04
sonofzeusbut cant find the theme17:04
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captain__i just installed kubunt and now trying to install firefox, but i get this failure message17:09
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ti_tux@sonofzeus, you have to reboot, then on the welcome screen where you type your login/password you can choose the desktop, so you choose LXDE and not Lubuntu17:11
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captain__how to install firefox?17:25
ti_tuxclic on the firefox installer17:27
captain__then i get this failure message17:27
captain__http://paste.kde.org/725756/17:27
ti_tuxwhat msg?17:27
ti_tuxok17:27
ti_tuxYou have clicked on the installer ? or you've tried to install it via konsole ?17:29
captain__both same failure17:29
lordievaderI have seen this bug before captain__, let me lookup what the fix was.17:29
captain__i have removed the installer now and installed firefox, seems to work17:29
ti_tuxok17:30
ti_tuxbut you are in 12.04 or 12.10 ?17:30
lordievaderIts bug 116815217:30
ubottubug 1168152 in firefox (Ubuntu) "package kubuntu-firefox-installer 12.04ubuntu1 [modified: usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop] failed to install/upgrade: Versuch, »/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop« zu überschreiben, welches auch in Paket firefox 20.0+build1-0ubuntu1 ist" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116815217:30
captain__12.1017:30
captain__no it doesn't work17:31
lordievadercaptain__: Use the --force-overwrite option for apt.17:31
captain__sudo apt-get install --forcer-overwrite firefox?17:44
captain__is that right17:44
captain__?17:44
lordievadercaptain__: sudo apt-get install --force-overwrite firefox, yes that should work.17:46
captain__--force-overwrite doesn't work17:51
lordievadercaptain__: You get the same error?17:56
captain__no17:56
lordievadercaptain__: What error do you get?17:56
captain__it says --force-overwrite could not ...17:57
captain__i dont know the english word for it17:57
captain__evaluate?17:57
lordievadercaptain__: Could be, you might try translate.google.com for a translation.18:00
captain__E: Command line option - force-overwrite could not be evaluated18:01
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lordievadercaptain__: Ah it's a dpkg option, sorry. You'll have to find the firefox package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then install the firefox package with "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite <package-name>"18:04
ti_tux@captain__: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install firefox18:06
ti_tuxthis should work18:06
lordievaderti_tux: That is the same thing ;)18:07
lordievaderGranted it is a bit easier :)18:07
ti_tuxyes of course ^^18:07
captain___yes that worked, thanks a lor18:09
captain___lot18:09
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wxlhey since there's some life here, anyone know how to get unicode going in konsole? ctrl-shift-u + hex don't seem to work.18:28
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lordievaderwxl: Could you pastebin the output of locale?18:34
wxllordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713936/18:37
wxlsorry had to install pastebinit :)18:37
lordievaderThat looks ok, what makes you think unicode doesn't work?18:39
wxllordievader: because i can't enter it the same way as i had on lubuntu, for example.18:40
wxllordievader: ctrl-shift-u seems to delete lines rather than enter hex input mode18:41
wxllordievader: it's not in shortcuts18:41
wxllordievader: i'm not seeing anything in keybindings18:43
wxllordievader: that's the reaction konsole has, at least. kate just does nothing.18:44
lordievaderwxl: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this has anything to do with unicode.18:45
wxllordievader: unicode input18:45
wxllordievader: i.e. i know an ellipsis is hexcode 2203. normally i can just enter ti with ctrl-shift-u 2203. don't work in kubuntu.18:46
lordievaderwxl: You might find this interesting: http://superuser.com/questions/74763/how-to-type-unicode-characters-in-kde18:47
raven_wolfhi all, im running kubuntu 12.04 x64 and after uprgade KDE to 4.10.2 there is no login screen? i have to login from a shell then type  startx ?18:47
raven_wolfwhat is rong here?  can you help fix this?18:50
wxllordievader: well, t he bug is taking forever to load so i don't know what the deal is, but it's obvious that the problem is kde just can't do it. bummer.18:50
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Nexus_RussiaHi all. I have a question-how to make the browser (eg, Google Chrome) open link type [b] ts3server :/ / [/ b] (TeamSpeak3) directly in Teamspeak? I understand that this is busy xdg-open, but he did not want to open the link. Where you can already register for the MIME types for opening this link open Teamspeak? Thank you.19:44
Nexus_RussiaP.S. OS Kubuntu 12.1019:44
Nexus_RussiaSorry my bad english19:44
lordievader!ru | Nexus_Russia19:49
ubottuNexus_Russia: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:49
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AlexZionhi everyone; i need some help with amarok 2.6.0 on kde 4.9.5 with Kubuntu 12.10 , just sometime it seems nearly freezed and it use a lot of cpu, but I didn't find any reason ....21:15
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cybermoron_hey new here21:31
Obsidian1723hi cybermoron_21:42
cybermoron__hi21:45
cybermoron__hi Obsidian172321:45
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