[00:37] <Genyar> testing
[00:37] <Genyar> Who is here?
[00:38] <Genyar> Am I alone?
[00:38] <Genyar> How many users are here?
[00:39] <Genyar> This is an IRC test by a neophyte
[00:40] <Artakha> you are alone in the dark dark void of #zandronum
[00:40] <Artakha> oh wait wrong channel
[00:41] <Genyar> damn
[00:41] <Artakha> you are alone in the dark dark void of #kubuntu then :P
[00:41]  * Artakha brainfart
[00:41] <Genyar> It says there are 241 users here
[00:41] <Artakha> it is a lie
[00:41] <Genyar> But I only see one user chatting besides me
[00:41] <Artakha> (there's actually 224)
[00:41] <Artakha> 244, agh
[00:41] <Artakha> anyway uh not all of them are active
[00:42] <Genyar> I have never been here before
[00:42] <Genyar> Are there computer techs here?
[00:42] <Artakha> welcome to irc then :P
[00:42] <Genyar> thank you
[00:42] <Artakha> as for computer techs.. that's quite a vague term
[00:43] <dagoberto> hola
[00:43] <Genyar> I am looking for computer gurus who are knowledgeable with Kubuntu
[00:43] <dagoberto> algien hay
[00:43] <Genyar> and Linux
[00:43] <Artakha> if you have a problem then you're best off going straight to the point
[00:44] <Genyar> I want to update my internet security
[00:45] <Genyar> And I would like to find out why I'm getting unencrypted warnings of third party threats when using Firefox
[00:45] <dagoberto> algien de chile???
[00:47] <Genyar> I am using Kubuntu 11.04, and I am getting warnings from Firefox, that I have requested an encrypted page that contains unencrypted info that can be read by a 3rd party
[00:48] <Genyar> it happens whenever I go on Yahoo chess or YouTube
[00:51] <Genyar> Is this an IRC chatroom?
[00:52] <Artakha> well
[00:52] <Artakha> yes this is an irc chatroom
[00:52] <Genyar> ok
[00:52] <Genyar> so, can you help me?
[00:52] <Artakha> well i'm not exactly sure what that message is but i don't bother with it
[00:52] <Artakha> you could ask #mozilla or whatever their channel is
[00:52] <Artakha> oh, no it's #firefox
[00:52] <Genyar> How do I get there?
[00:53] <Artakha> type /join #firefox as if it were just text
[00:53] <Artakha> anything that begins with a / is an irc client command
[00:53] <Genyar> ok, I should try it now?
[00:53] <Artakha> i guess?
[02:57] <Genyar> everyone is leaving?
[03:16] <rottingdead> Hmm, what's going on with Kubuntu that doesn't like my system? It keeps freezing up or something, I can't even install it, =(.
[03:18] <rottingdead> I know it's something to do with my computer here, had somebody else check it, worked fine on their system.
[04:43] <mrngan> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:43] <mrngan> help>>
[04:43] <mrngan> error E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:43] <mrngan> ????
[05:05] <zeekzack> hello there...i m in bit of trouble..
[05:06] <zeekzack> my kubuntu desktop in not showing after login except blank background and cursor
[05:07] <zeekzack> can somebody tell how to get out of it??
[05:23] <valorie> zeekzack: can you login to a console?
[05:24] <valorie> actually, it sounds as if you are in one
[05:24] <zeekzack> in recovery mode , i got access to root shell
[05:24] <zeekzack> i tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, but it dint work
[05:25] <valorie> from ubuntu?
[05:25] <zeekzack> right now logged in to desktop pc..
[05:26] <valorie> zeekzack: you might try 'apt-get -f install' from a console
[05:26] <valorie> see if whatever got kludged, gets unstuck
[05:27] <valorie> from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[05:28] <zeekzack> btw this problem happened after i got my machine accidently powered off
[05:29] <valorie> yes, that might help
[05:29] <valorie> linux is often easy to heal
[05:30] <valorie> but pulling the plug is usually not a good thing
[05:30] <zeekzack> i know...it was by mistake
[05:31] <zeekzack> how to get out of this??
[05:31] <valorie> you might try 'apt-get -f install' from a console
[05:31] <valorie> I gave you the link about apt
[05:31] <valorie> !apt
[05:32] <zeekzack> i know basic of it..but in recovery mode root shell i hv tried various commands including "apt-get update" and "apt-get -f install"
[05:33] <zeekzack> but failed
[05:33] <valorie> by failed, what do you mean?
[05:33] <zeekzack> i dont remember the exact error message..
[05:34] <valorie> :(
[05:34] <valorie> exact error messages are important
[05:34] <valorie> what happens when you try again?
[05:35] <zeekzack> even when i tried to open an application from there, it said 'cannot conncet to x server'
[05:37] <valorie> you can try 'sudo restart lightdm' if you have  recent version
[05:37] <valorie> sudo restart gdm if it's an older ubuntu
[05:51] <zeekzack1> when i type apt-get -f install, i get following
[05:52] <zeekzack1> 0 upgraded, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[05:52] <valorie> :(
[05:52] <zeekzack1> when i type 'kate' in root shell of recovery mode i got 'connect to X server'
[05:53] <valorie> did you see my suggestion about  'sudo restart lightdm'
[05:53] <valorie> or sudo restart gdm if it's an older ubuntu
[05:53] <zeekzack1> i was logged off...
[05:53] <zeekzack1> trying this now
[05:54] <hateball> Seems more likely to be kdm than gdm, if it's Kubuntu
[05:54] <zeekzack1> i got "restart: unknown job"
[05:54] <valorie> hateball: he was just trying to install kubuntu
[05:54] <hateball> valorie: Alright
[05:55] <valorie> so try with gdm and kdm
[05:55] <valorie> it generally is going to be one of the three
[05:55] <zeekzack1> got "unknown instance"
[05:55] <zeekzack1> let me rephrase my problem:
[05:56] <hateball> Also wouldnt you want to do "sudo service lightdm restart", or "sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart"  ?
[05:56] <hateball> or any of the other login managers
[05:56] <zeekzack1> while using kubuntu, my desktop accidently cut off from power, when started it again, after loggin again i got only a blank background and cursor..
[05:57] <valorie> hateball: I guess that is worth trying, but I believe that's the old way
[05:58] <hateball> zeekzack1: so you were actually presented with a login screen?
[05:58] <valorie> !xserver
[05:58] <valorie> !x
[05:59] <valorie> ha, ubottu agrees with you, hateball
[05:59] <valorie> but since lightdm is left out, I still think that's ol
[05:59] <valorie> old
[05:59] <hateball> If you were presented with a graphical login screen, and it stopped working after that, I'd assume the KDE configs got messed up. So one could try moving the KDE config to a backup and login again
[06:06] <zeekzack1_> hateball: got unrecognized service when i typed sudo service lightdm restart
[06:06] <zeekzack1_> hateball, valorie: sorry guyz, due to this old xp pc, was disconnected
[06:07] <hateball> zeekzack1_: Then you can try "sudo service kdm restart"
[06:08] <hateball> I don't know which release you're using, and even so you could still choose to be on kdm rather than lightdm, so
[06:09] <zeekzack1_> after applying command and logging in got this: Warning : Cannot open consoleKit session Unable to open session Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_spocket:
[06:10] <zeekzack1_> i m using kubuntu 12.04 with linux kernel 3.2.37
[06:10] <zeekzack1_> now same black background with only cursor appears...
[06:10] <zeekzack1_> nothing else..
[06:11] <hateball> zeekzack1_: ok, you can try this back in the console then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[06:13] <zeekzack1_> dpkg: error: unable to access dpkg status area: Read only file system..
[06:15] <valorie> !
[06:15] <zeekzack1_> hateball: der??
[06:15] <valorie> this sounds really badly hosed
[06:20] <zeekzack1_> valorie: unfortunately i m stuck here...i have to get out of this soon..
[06:25] <valorie> you didn't say what was installed before you tried to add kubuntu-desktop
[06:27] <zeekzack1_> i have been using kubuntu 12.04...in order to get back to normal situation, i thoght i should try to install again from shell kubuntu desktop
[06:27] <zeekzack1_> i think u got me wrong sumwhere
[06:27] <valorie> ah
[06:28] <valorie> what was wrong before you tried to reinstall kubuntu-desktop?
[06:28] <valorie> and did you purge first, or what?
[06:28] <valorie> you never told the whole story
[06:30] <zeekzack1_> telling again whole scenario:my desktop was cut off from power accidently..next tym i logged in startup screen of kubuntu, i got only blackscreen...there were no windows or icon or anything else...
[06:30] <zeekzack1_> so i rebooted again, and went to recovery mode from grub
[06:30] <zeekzack1_> where i choose root shell prompt..
[06:31] <zeekzack1_> nd tried some commands there..
[06:31] <valorie> I see
[06:31] <zeekzack1_> r u getting my situation??
[06:31] <valorie> yes
[06:32] <valorie> it may be time to re-install, after backing up your ~/home to other media
[06:32] <valorie> when the xserver and dpkg don't work, your system is rather severely damaged
[06:34] <zeekzack1_> when i change directory to home and apply 'ls' nothing shows up...so how to backup things??
[06:35] <valorie> !
[06:36] <valorie> that explains a lot, zeekzack1_
[06:36] <valorie> if you have lost your home dir, you've lost your config files
[06:37] <zeekzack1_> so any way to recover them??
[06:37] <valorie> well, there are ways to get raw files from hard drives
[06:37] <valorie> but you have to think about whether or not that's worthwhile
[06:38] <valorie> if it wasn't worth backing up before, is it worth the work to recover it?
[06:39] <zeekzack1_> :-D
[06:40] <valorie> !dd
[06:41] <valorie> if you are interested, look at DD and DDrescue
[06:44] <zeekzack1_> okay, googling it...thanks!
[06:53] <zeekzack1_> valorie: when i boot from usb, i can see my whole hdd intact..
[06:53] <valorie> cool!
[06:54] <valorie> in that case, backing up would be worthwhile
[06:54] <valorie> and then reinstall
[06:55] <zeekzack1_> is there a way to repair current installation?
[06:55] <valorie> you can chance it without backing up
[06:55] <valorie> but that sounds risky
[06:56] <valorie> backup drives are getting cheaper all the time
[06:56] <valorie> my 1.5 T drive is much cheaper than when I bought it a year ago
[06:56] <zeekzack1_> :-D so i m backing up in my external...i own one
[06:56] <valorie> great!
[07:59] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:22] <yossarianuk> hey
[11:32] <yossarianuk> (offtopic but this is mental - Westboro baptist church going to picket the funerials of the dead in boston .... )
[11:32] <monkeyjuice> why would you care what they do .
[11:33] <bazhang> yossarianuk, #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:34] <yossarianuk> ok - sorry just amazed and outraged.... will remain on-topic.....
[15:03] <Mmike> Hello. When I click on 'additional drivers' and select a driver marked with a green dot, the text at the bottom of the window says 'this driver is activated but currently not in use'
[15:03] <Mmike> how do I make it 'being in use'?
[15:03] <Mmike> i'm using kubuntu 12.10 (upgraded from 12.04), with nvidia-current (304.something)
[15:12] <ovidiu-florin> is Muon part of KDE or kubuntu?
[15:15] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: I'm pretty sure it's Kubuntu stufff
[15:16] <ovidiu-florin> for the update part does it have a cronjob or something like that?
[15:16] <ovidiu-florin> could it be ported to Arch?
[15:21] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: You'd probably have to find one of the developers like Jonathan Thomas and ask them.
[15:29] <ovidiu-florin> is that one or two persons?
[15:37] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: 1
[15:38] <ovidiu-florin> how do I find him?
[15:39] <genii-around> ovidiu-florin: http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/
[15:40] <smartboyhw> Hmm why do you need JontheEchidna?
[15:41] <ovidiu-florin> I was thinking to port Muon to Arch linux if that's possible
[15:42] <ovidiu-florin> I have to go now, I'll be back in a couple of hours ;)
[15:42] <smartboyhw> ovidiu-florin: Better discussion on #kubuntu-devel
[16:15] <Ohad> Is there anyone here that can support?
[16:16] <Ohad> ^^
[16:16] <lordievader> Ohad: Sure there is ;)
[16:17] <lordievader> !ask
[16:17] <Ohad> It consists of some
[16:17] <Ohad> in crontab
[16:17] <Ohad> ^^
[16:18] <genii-around> We require more detailed information on your goal or specific problem
[16:19] <Ohad> I'm trying to create a file in crontab it does not save us
[16:28] <totalanonymous> i need your help :) ... well i just want to set up a VPN connection via network manager and i need to set a chiffre  but i cannot select one . It says something like  "cant find Open-VPN-chiffre"
[16:28] <totalanonymous> ideas ?
[16:29] <sonofzeus> hi
[16:29] <totalanonymous> hi
[16:29] <sonofzeus> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LXDE_desktop_full.png how shall I getvthis theme?
[16:30] <sonofzeus> ive lxde installed
[16:30] <totalanonymous> u need to install lxde as your  desktop manager
[16:30] <sonofzeus> i have lxde installed already
[16:31] <totalanonymous> ok then u can select it at your login screen  there must be a small symbol  and by clicking on it u can selecte which manager u want to use
[16:32] <sonofzeus> well i have lubuntu installed with lxde but still I cant se that theme.
[16:32] <totalanonymous> its not a theme its a complete different windows manager
[16:33] <sonofzeus> yeah its lxde right?
[16:33] <sonofzeus> i have lxde installed
[16:33] <totalanonymous> and by doing what i told u before u can change from ubuntu "unity" to  lxde
[16:34] <sonofzeus> okay hold on i will try that.
[16:34] <totalanonymous> k
[16:34] <sonofzeus> please wait bud.
[16:34] <sonofzeus> thc
[16:34] <sonofzeus> thx
[16:35] <sonofzeus> im at the login screen
[16:36] <totalanonymous> while u are writing with me ? :)
[16:36] <sonofzeus> yes im on a mobile
[16:36] <sonofzeus> android
[16:36] <totalanonymous> ok :D ... ok next to the prompt where u can type in your password there must be a symbol
[16:37] <totalanonymous> click on it
[16:37] <sonofzeus> a blue one with a stickman pic
[16:37] <sonofzeus> its on the top right
[16:37] <totalanonymous> ok a list appears and it probably says something like  Unity , LXDE, TWM  and so on
[16:38] <sonofzeus> nah
[16:38] <sonofzeus> it just says lubuntu lubuntu net book and openbox
[16:39] <totalanonymous> it is lubuntu
[16:39] <totalanonymous> lubuntu is ubuntu using lxde
[16:39] <sonofzeus> yes i know
[16:39] <sonofzeus> but i still cant see the theme in the pic
[16:39] <sonofzeus> lol
[16:40] <sonofzeus> I want to install the theme in the pic
[16:40] <totalanonymous> which theme ? the background ?
[16:41] <sonofzeus> yes
[16:42] <totalanonymous> maybe you  right click at your desktop @ desktop preferences
[16:42] <totalanonymous> under wallpaper  its not included ?
[16:42] <sonofzeus> ok?
[16:42] <sonofzeus> nah
[16:42] <ti_tux> @sonofzeus your theme is named nuoveXT2
[16:42] <sonofzeus> where can i find it?
[16:43] <sonofzeus> ti tux
[16:43] <ti_tux> you can find it as lxde-icon-theme in the repos
[16:43] <sonofzeus> is installing themes safe?
[16:43] <sonofzeus> just a noob
[16:44] <ti_tux> of course ! it is in the ubuntu repos
[16:44] <sonofzeus> how to open the repos sorry
[16:45] <ti_tux> type in a terminal sudo apt-get install lxde-icon-theme
[16:45] <ti_tux> to install the theme
[16:45] <sonofzeus> im on lubuntu is that ok?
[16:45] <ti_tux> it's ok
[16:45] <sonofzeus> the command
[16:45] <sonofzeus> k
[16:46] <sonofzeus> thx a lot man
[16:46] <ti_tux> don't worry about that, it's the same for all debian based distros
[16:48] <ti_tux> for the wallpaper you should find it /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/
[16:48] <ti_tux> *at
[16:58] <sonofzeus> stupid q but how do i open terminal on a lubuntu pc
[16:59] <sonofzeus> pls help
[17:01] <sonofzeus> nvm i think its lxterminal
[17:04] <sonofzeus> hey ti tux i installed it
[17:04] <sonofzeus> but cant find the theme
[17:09] <captain__> i just installed kubunt and now trying to install firefox, but i get this failure message
[17:11] <ti_tux> @sonofzeus, you have to reboot, then on the welcome screen where you type your login/password you can choose the desktop, so you choose LXDE and not Lubuntu
[17:25] <captain__> how to install firefox?
[17:27] <ti_tux> clic on the firefox installer
[17:27] <captain__> then i get this failure message
[17:27] <captain__> http://paste.kde.org/725756/
[17:27] <ti_tux> what msg?
[17:27] <ti_tux> ok
[17:29] <ti_tux> You have clicked on the installer ? or you've tried to install it via konsole ?
[17:29] <captain__> both same failure
[17:29] <lordievader> I have seen this bug before captain__, let me lookup what the fix was.
[17:29] <captain__> i have removed the installer now and installed firefox, seems to work
[17:30] <ti_tux> ok
[17:30] <ti_tux> but you are in 12.04 or 12.10 ?
[17:30] <lordievader> Its bug 1168152
[17:30] <captain__> 12.10
[17:31] <captain__> no it doesn't work
[17:31] <lordievader> captain__: Use the --force-overwrite option for apt.
[17:44] <captain__> sudo apt-get install --forcer-overwrite firefox?
[17:44] <captain__> is that right
[17:44] <captain__> ?
[17:46] <lordievader> captain__: sudo apt-get install --force-overwrite firefox, yes that should work.
[17:51] <captain__> --force-overwrite doesn't work
[17:56] <lordievader> captain__: You get the same error?
[17:56] <captain__> no
[17:56] <lordievader> captain__: What error do you get?
[17:57] <captain__> it says --force-overwrite could not ...
[17:57] <captain__> i dont know the english word for it
[17:57] <captain__> evaluate?
[18:00] <lordievader> captain__: Could be, you might try translate.google.com for a translation.
[18:01] <captain__> E: Command line option - force-overwrite could not be evaluated
[18:04] <lordievader> captain__: Ah it's a dpkg option, sorry. You'll have to find the firefox package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and then install the firefox package with "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite <package-name>"
[18:06] <ti_tux> @captain__: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install firefox
[18:06] <ti_tux> this should work
[18:07] <lordievader> ti_tux: That is the same thing ;)
[18:07] <lordievader> Granted it is a bit easier :)
[18:07] <ti_tux> yes of course ^^
[18:09] <captain___> yes that worked, thanks a lor
[18:09] <captain___> lot
[18:28] <wxl> hey since there's some life here, anyone know how to get unicode going in konsole? ctrl-shift-u + hex don't seem to work.
[18:34] <lordievader> wxl: Could you pastebin the output of locale?
[18:37] <wxl> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713936/
[18:37] <wxl> sorry had to install pastebinit :)
[18:39] <lordievader> That looks ok, what makes you think unicode doesn't work?
[18:40] <wxl> lordievader: because i can't enter it the same way as i had on lubuntu, for example.
[18:41] <wxl> lordievader: ctrl-shift-u seems to delete lines rather than enter hex input mode
[18:41] <wxl> lordievader: it's not in shortcuts
[18:43] <wxl> lordievader: i'm not seeing anything in keybindings
[18:44] <wxl> lordievader: that's the reaction konsole has, at least. kate just does nothing.
[18:45] <lordievader> wxl: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think this has anything to do with unicode.
[18:45] <wxl> lordievader: unicode input
[18:46] <wxl> lordievader: i.e. i know an ellipsis is hexcode 2203. normally i can just enter ti with ctrl-shift-u 2203. don't work in kubuntu.
[18:47] <lordievader> wxl: You might find this interesting: http://superuser.com/questions/74763/how-to-type-unicode-characters-in-kde
[18:47] <raven_wolf> hi all, im running kubuntu 12.04 x64 and after uprgade KDE to 4.10.2 there is no login screen? i have to login from a shell then type  startx ?
[18:50] <raven_wolf> what is rong here?  can you help fix this?
[18:50] <wxl> lordievader: well, t he bug is taking forever to load so i don't know what the deal is, but it's obvious that the problem is kde just can't do it. bummer.
[19:44] <Nexus_Russia> Hi all. I have a question-how to make the browser (eg, Google Chrome) open link type [b] ts3server :/ / [/ b] (TeamSpeak3) directly in Teamspeak? I understand that this is busy xdg-open, but he did not want to open the link. Where you can already register for the MIME types for opening this link open Teamspeak? Thank you.
[19:44] <Nexus_Russia> P.S. OS Kubuntu 12.10
[19:44] <Nexus_Russia> Sorry my bad english
[19:49] <lordievader> !ru | Nexus_Russia
[19:52] <Nexus_Russia> thx
[21:15] <AlexZion> hi everyone; i need some help with amarok 2.6.0 on kde 4.9.5 with Kubuntu 12.10 , just sometime it seems nearly freezed and it use a lot of cpu, but I didn't find any reason ....
[21:31] <cybermoron_> hey new here
[21:42] <Obsidian1723> hi cybermoron_
[21:45] <cybermoron__> hi
[21:45] <cybermoron__> hi Obsidian1723