[00:53] <moppers> how does scroll switching in raring work?
[00:55] <moppers> also is it me, or is raring's unity slower than quantal?
[06:39] <nonuby> how do I disable random changing wallapepr?
[06:39] <nonuby> wallpaper
[07:59] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:28] <ssn> hi
[08:28] <ssn> where can i get 13.04 netinstall (minimal)? i need to install ubuntu on a software raid
[08:40] <ssn> ok found it
[09:41] <slinnky> raring ringtail is snappy
[09:41] <slinnky> can't deny that at all
[09:44] <lordievader> slinnky: :)
[10:14] <hachre> I'm getting this since today, is it just my system that's broken or is it a common thing right now?
[10:14] <hachre> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:14] <hachre>  unity : Depends: libnux-abiversion-20130411.0 but it is not installable
[10:15] <smartboyhw> hachre, let me check please.
[10:16] <hachre> sure
[10:17] <smartboyhw> hachre, weird 20130411.0 ?
[10:17] <hachre> yea thats what it says
[10:18] <hachre> apt-cache search libnux-abiversion only finds a -4.0 though
[10:18] <smartboyhw> hachre, ah I know what happened.
[10:18] <smartboyhw> hachre, please wait for a bit:P The nux library which provides the libnux-abiersion-20130411.0 is just uploaded:p
[10:18] <hachre> ah ok:)
[10:19] <hachre> np
[10:19] <smartboyhw> hachre, do you have -proposed enabled (just asking)
[10:19] <hachre> yes
[10:19] <smartboyhw> hachre, hmm it should show up now.
[10:19] <smartboyhw> Do a sudo apt-get update and retry.
[10:19] <hachre> ok ill update and try again
[10:20] <hachre> same thing so far
[10:20] <smartboyhw> hachre, you can do a "sudo apt-get update" within this short period?
[10:20] <hachre> yea :)
[10:20] <smartboyhw> Type the EXACT command in terminal please.
[10:20] <smartboyhw> hachre, :O
[10:21] <smartboyhw> hachre, it is built and in -proposed.
[10:21] <hachre> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-proposed restricted multiverse universe main
[10:21] <hachre> thats my line for proposed
[10:21] <hachre> thats all i need right?
[10:21] <hggdh> and only carried over to main after fully built & confirmed
[10:22] <hggdh> having -proposed enabled *can* give you temporary inconsistencies
[10:22] <hachre> yeah that's np
[10:22] <hachre> just wanted to report it:) or check that it's not just me
[10:22] <smartboyhw> hachre, :)
[10:23]  * smartboyhw doesn't use Unity, IIRC.
[10:27] <hachre> nothing has changed here still
[10:29] <smartboyhw> hachre, wait till it gets to -release then. Shouldn't take more than ~2 hours
[10:29] <hachre> okay :)
[10:29] <hachre> weird.. the proposed line I posted above was right wasn't it?
[10:34] <smartboyhw> hachre, yes it is correct.
[10:37] <hggdh> hachre: a source package can generate many binary packages; as these packages are ready, they are published to -proposed. But their interdependencies may require a still-building piece (or even a completely different source/binary packages)
[10:38] <hachre> I see
[10:38] <hachre> I just retired and it works now
[10:38] <hggdh> this is one of the reasons we initially publish to -proposed (another being acceptance tests)
[10:38] <hachre> unity is back :)
[10:38] <hachre> retried*
[10:38] <hggdh> heh.
[10:39] <smartboyhw> hachre, \o/
[10:39] <hggdh> hachre: rule of thumb: if you are using -proposed, carefully check what is going to happen on a dist-upgrade, and manually select packages to be updated if you see "weird" changes
[10:40] <hachre> yeah, I noticed that now :)
[10:40] <hachre> wouldn't have happened with upgrade
[10:40] <hachre> but it's no big deal, I have snapshots to revert to that I create before every update in case anything goes horribly wrong
[10:40] <hggdh> no, it would not. Also you would not have new packages installed, or obsoleted packages removed
[10:41] <hachre> You mean packages that didn't exist before?
[10:41] <hggdh> (which might cause you a whole different set of problems ;-)
[10:41] <hggdh> yes
[10:42] <hachre> ok I see :)
[10:42] <hggdh> new dependencies, for example
[10:42] <hachre> yea
[10:42]  * smartboyhw likes dist-upgrade with -proposed :P
[10:43] <smartboyhw> Except when times if I upgraded with xorg-server not being fully uploaded
[10:43] <smartboyhw> That will bring me to a tty instead the following day:P
[10:43] <hggdh> heh
[10:43] <hachre> I've just switched to using Ubuntu from Arch (and before that Gentoo) recently and have little experience with the specifics of deb based package management... but I'm starting to get the hang of it ;)
[10:51] <smartboyhw> hachre, hurray!
[10:55] <slinnky> hachre, familiarize yourself with ppa-purge too
[10:56] <slinnky> that's how you take back your system
[10:56] <hachre> yeah I've read about it on the side already for a bit, thanks slinnky :) very useful
[11:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:39] <susundbe1g> Hi BluesKaj
[11:39] <BluesKaj> hi susundbe1g
[13:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:57] <ShapeShifter499> I feel like updating, "update-manager -d"   sounds good?
[13:57] <ShapeShifter499> currently on 12.10
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> .04 versions are LTS versions correct?
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> while .10 versions are STS?
[13:59] <Stanley00> !lts | ShapeShifter499
[13:59] <smartboyhw> ShapeShifter499, not exactly.
[13:59] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: the next lts is 14.04
[13:59] <smartboyhw> 13.04 is NOT an LTS, IIRC
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> oh
[14:00] <smartboyhw> Only .04 LTSes per two years is LTS
[14:00] <smartboyhw> And this one isn't
[14:00] <smartboyhw> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 is the LTS path
[14:00] <ShapeShifter499> so next two releases are going to STS
[14:00] <ShapeShifter499> STS (short term support)
[14:00] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: yes
[14:01] <ShapeShifter499> whatever happened to better wine integration?
[14:02] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: I dont use wine, so dont know.
[14:03] <ShapeShifter499> I frankly want a wine with USB and iTunes support, that would allow me to completely drop windows for good
[14:04] <ShapeShifter499> vbox currently is a hassle to use trying to update an iPhone :/
[14:04] <ShapeShifter499> anyways, "update-manager -d" should get me on my way to 13.04 correct?
[14:05] <Pici> yep.
[14:05] <ShapeShifter499> super, updating just as soon as my google music library re-syncs itself
[14:06] <johnjohn101> i've had good luck with 13.04.  it's a pretty good release though the last of it's kind as ubuntu pivots.
[14:07] <ShapeShifter499> johnjohn101, what do you mean?
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> I heard ubuntu may drop X11, this true?
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> if so what does it mean for X11 apps?
[14:09] <Stanley00> yep, but not before 14.04
[14:09] <Dark_light> ShapeShifter499: everyone will in the not so distant future wayland will take it's place or in the case of ubuntu mir
[14:09] <Dark_light> if it ever sees the light
[14:11] <Dark_light> Honestly I doubt it'll take only one year
[14:12] <johnjohn101> ShapeShifter499:  moving to Qt
[14:12] <Dark_light> that does not depend on X11 though
[14:12] <Dark_light> that's moving away from gtk
[14:13] <johnjohn101> isnt' that a huge shift though?
[14:13] <Dark_light> yes and now it is but not nearly as huge as changing display server
[14:13] <johnjohn101> so unity will be composited only to Mir?
[14:14] <Dark_light> I guess so
[14:14] <Dark_light> mir still has to see the light
[14:14] <Dark_light> and nothing is set in stone
[14:14] <johnjohn101> gnome 3.10 is supposed to be the first for wayland.  wonder how that will fly.
[14:15] <Dark_light> that's one of the reason why I'm not so sure mir we'll ever see the light of the day
[14:15] <Dark_light> there's a rason why gnu/linux has like 20 window managers and desktop enviroments but only one kernel and one display server
[14:16] <johnjohn101> that makes a lot of sense
[14:16] <Dark_light> kde has already stated that, at least for now, it has no plans to officially support mir whatsover
[14:16] <johnjohn101> have they even announced any plans for wayland?
[14:17] <Dark_light> who?
[14:17] <Dark_light> kde?
[14:17] <johnjohn101> kde
[14:17] <Dark_light> they are actively making the necessary changes to support it
[14:17] <ShapeShifter499> from what I read, wayland and mir will support X11 legacy, so KDE should still work no matter what version its on correct?
[14:19] <Dark_light> well I'm not sure about that I think it'll be able to run applications designed for X11 but a whole DE I don't think so
[14:19]  * Dark_light is not quite sure if his last message got through because his wireless died 
[14:19] <ShapeShifter499> Dark_light, last message:  <Dark_light> well I'm not sure about that I think it'll be able to run applications designed for X11 but a whole DE I don't think so
[14:20] <Dark_light> yep
[14:20] <Dark_light> thank you :-)
[14:20] <Dark_light> wayland has a completely different design compared to X11 so supporting applications is one thing but supporting a wm/de designede for x11 is impossible
[14:21] <ShapeShifter499> Dark_light, somehow I feel like the support for X11 apps in wayland and mir will be like WINE's support for Windows apps
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> never quite being 100%
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> and spotty support
[14:22] <Dark_light>  well that wont' affect many of them though
[14:23] <Dark_light> it's not like applications depend directly on the display server
[14:23] <Dark_light> they depen on the library gtk, or qt that has been used to design them
[14:23] <Dark_light> from what I know at least
[14:24] <Dark_light> so that shouldn't be much of an issue
[14:24] <Dark_light> plus I think you should be able to run an X11 session in wayland
[14:33] <ShapeShifter499> oh I see
[14:37] <dakira> so.. am I the only one who loves nautilus new style, but hates how it is missing all those features?
[14:38] <dakira> The fact that find-as-you-type navigation has been replaced with search totally drives me nuts. It works really really bad with large filesets or remote connections.
[14:44] <Tribaal> dakira: +1
[14:45] <Tribaal> find as you type was great
[15:16] <johnjohn101> should be an interesting year in the linux world regardless.  there is plenty of work to do
[15:23] <genii-around> It's always an interesting year in the linux world.
[16:07] <charliepurple> I'm not sure if I'm dealing with a bug or not, but apt-get won't finish updating the kernel, I get this error: Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp  linux-image-powerpc-smp
[16:08] <hggdh> charliepurple: look at /var/log/apt/term.log to zero in what error(s) was(were) found.
[16:08] <charliepurple> I had to boot into "old" today because of the same install failure from yesterday, I literally get nothing on boot.
[16:08] <charliepurple> okay - will do, thanks hggdh
[16:09] <charliepurple> not sure how this will format, but here goes:
[16:09] <charliepurple> Log started: 2013-04-16  11:33:44 Setting up linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp (3.8.0-8.14) ... Running depmod. update-initramfs: deferring update (hook will be called later) The link /boot/initrd.img is a dangling linkto /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp initrd.img.old is not a symlink, not clobbering rm initrd.img.14291 at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp.postinst line 534. Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
[16:09] <charliepurple> also, it said not enough room on /boot, but I've got 40g available
[16:09] <hggdh> ah
[16:10] <hggdh> charliepurple: /boot may be a different filesystem
[16:11] <hggdh> and, most probably *this* (not enough space) was the reason for the failure
[16:11]  * hggdh goes for a lunch
[16:12] <charliepurple> Okay, I'm not sure how to work with that?
[16:13] <hggdh> charliepurple: well, if /boot is indeed a different FS, you will have to (1) extend it, and/or (2) clean up some space (by, for example, apt-get purge older kernels)
[16:13] <hggdh> charliepurple: of course, if apt-get purge, make sure to leave the current working kernel
[16:13] <hggdh> now it *is* lunch time ;-)
[16:14] <charliepurple> Okay, have a good lunch. I'll look into it.
[16:17] <wilee-nilee> charliepurple, As a heads up out of stock kernels are not necessarily supported.
[16:18] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, out of stock kernels? Are they on backorder?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, lol, no people come on asking for support for kernels that are not part of normal updates, and can wait a long time for help is all.
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, you mean custom kernels?
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> yes
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, ah ok
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, I don't think I've ever heard them called out of stock kernels before
[16:20] <charliepurple> I'm just working with whatever comes standard with 13.04 ppc
[16:21] <tgm4883> theres a PPC version of 13.04?
[16:21] <charliepurple> yep
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, It is early here not enough caffeine yet, and my walnut sized brain is in standby. ;)
[16:22] <charliepurple> Every time is early enough for caffiene!
[16:25] <johnjohn101> what is the usual issue with custom kernels?  kernel modules?
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, Can you make your question more vague please? ')
[16:30] <johnjohn101> wilee-nilee:  just trying to figure out what types of problems folks run into with running a kernel that isnt' stock.  mostly curiosity as I will probably never do something like that.
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, Anything is possible really, no real standard set of problems, could be any number of variables or outliers.
[16:33] <johnjohn101> yeah that type of stuff has to be almost impossible to support.
[16:44] <FunnyLookinHat> So - I'm unable to get Rhythmbox to play mp3 streams...  and it's not trying to find a plugin or anything...  is this a bug?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, Have you installed the restricted-extras for the desktop you are running?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> restricted*
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, yeah I have
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> And I've verified that all of the streams work with VLC.  But they don't in both RB and Video Player ( obvs. gstreamer issue )
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, Are these your own choices or part of rhythmboxs apps?
[16:49] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, My own - here's the playlist I'm testing: https://gist.github.com/funnylookinhat/5396707/raw/671b062b0879a0b940d4160f26c6f09e5f8f9678/code_music.pls
[16:49] <FunnyLookinHat> They're all just mp3 streams.
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah bugger - found a bug for it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer1.0/+bug/1139760
[16:51] <FunnyLookinHat> confirmed & no fix  :-P
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, I added this one to radio and it works. http://slacker.cvgm.net:8000/cvgm128  I had to wait a second for it to start working is all.
[16:53] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, And you're on Raring amd64 w/ ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> That one won't work in my setup...  hmmm
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> It works in Banshee though...
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> juts not RB
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, No precise but rhythbox build 2.97 same I would suspect.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Oh no
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> This is a 13.04 issue.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Precise works great.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> And they changed gstreamer in between then I believe
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Are you on 0.10 or 1.0 ?
[16:55] <_Bauer> How do I get to places like System->Administration->Users and Groups in Unity's 13.04?
[16:57] <johnjohn101> you might want to try vlc for the mp3 stream and see what happens as well.
[16:58] <johnjohn101> i usually use cvlc at the command line, in that i have a script that kills the station after an hour or so, so that I can go to sleep.
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> johnjohn101, They work in VLC
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> already said that  :)
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> This is clearly a RB issue - since Banshee works
[17:03] <tgm4883> _Bauer, click the gear in the upper right corner, and select system settings
[17:45] <johnjohn101> FunnyLookinHat: sorry, I need to read the posts more carefully.
[17:46] <_Bauer> tgm4883:  this place has no Groups, only Users...
[17:47] <tgm4883> _Bauer, yea, IDK about groups.
[18:41] <jnoz> I'm running Ubuntu raring (13.04) and I would like to install the latest stable version of enlightenment. There doesn't seem to be a package. How should I best proceed?
[18:49] <Pici> jnoz: e17?
[18:50] <jnoz> Pici: Enlightenment 0.17.2.1
[18:51] <jnoz> Pici: the package in raring is "Version: 0.16.999.70492-2
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> the ppa is not not at raring yet https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk
[18:53] <jnoz> so how do I do it?
[18:57] <jnoz> should I just install it from tarballs?
[18:57] <jnoz> will that break anything?
[18:58] <_Bauer> ok.. I created a user and group called wineuser, tried with/without setting user's password. however when I do something like
[18:58] <_Bauer> sg wineuser, I get prompted for password, and I get error crypt: Invalid argument
[18:59] <_Bauer> no matter which one I try
[18:59] <_Bauer> any ideas?
[19:00] <_Bauer> could it be 13.04 specific issue?
[19:25] <moppers> hi, i was askign about the status of 'scroll to switch tasks' in raring
[19:25] <moppers> it doesn't appear to work in the daily build
[19:25] <Guest91166> hola! i have trouble updating.  tried many different servers with no luck. Error: http://pastebin.com/zBhmkB38
[19:28] <Guest91166> it is a clean install
[19:29] <jacklk> When is 13.04 out?!
[19:30] <Levanth> Hi is this the right channel for 13.04 problems with xampp?
[19:37] <jacklk> Levanth: yes, just ask
[19:38] <Levanth> Okay my problem is: I just installed xampp, copied the lampp folder to /opt/ and when I try to run xampp in the terminal I got one error with the mysql service
[19:39] <jacklk> Levanth: What is the error?
[19:41] <Levanth> jacklk the exact error is "XAMPP: MySQL konnte nicht gestartet werden!" its german and means Mysql couldnt start, I looked in the error log in /opt/lampp/var/mysql  and it says /opt/lampp/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/plugin.frm' (errno: 13)
[19:41] <Levanth> jacklk but I looked there as su and the file was there
[19:42] <bekks> Levanth: I' not use LAMP, but install mysql, apache, etc. using the package management system.
[19:42] <jacklk> Levanth: Is mysql-server and mysql-core installed?
[19:43] <bekks> jacklk: HE is using LAMP, that has nothing to do with the packages from the repos.
[19:44] <Levanth> jacklk I could not find something with mysql to run as command
[19:44] <jacklk> LAMP or not, you still should be able to run mysql?
[19:45] <bekks> The LAMP config just doesnt find a file - whatever happened there, it has nothing to do with the packages from the repos.
[19:45] <jacklk> it could do, as the file it is looking for may not be installed under a package
[19:45] <bean> wtf is "The LAMP config"
[19:46] <bekks> bean: The config for LAMP and its components.
[19:46] <bean> ... lol
[19:46] <bekks> LAMP is a prebuilt software package.
[19:46] <bekks> Thats why it is installed at /opt/lamp/ ...
[19:46] <bean> jesus, why
[19:46] <bekks> Dont ask me, ask the author :P
[19:47] <bean> why not just install apache, mysql, and php
[19:47] <bean> like, it really doesn't get any more simple than that
[19:47] <jacklk> bean: exactly
[19:47] <bekks> Thats what I told Levanth already.
[19:47] <jacklk> Which makes LAMP pointless
[19:47] <bean> anything that doesn't use the package manager and puts its own s*** in /opt/ is pretty bad, imo
[19:48] <jacklk> Levanth: Are you sure you have to use LAMP? Just do apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql mysql-server php5 and boom you have a wroking server?
[19:49] <Levanth> because I dont know what I have to configure there, I am rather new to the whole server thing and a friend of mine just installed lampp the same way and it worked so I was curious why it doesnt worked for me (he also uses 13.04)
[19:49] <Pici> LAMP a term for a linux server with mysql and php, its not necessarily xampp.
[19:49] <bean> oh, we're talking about XAMPP, why the hell would you use that
[19:49] <jacklk> Levanth: you don't really have to do any configuration, no more than you do with LAMP
[19:50] <Pici> !xampp
[19:50] <jacklk> you just need those 4 packages and it all works together
[19:50] <Levanth> jacklk so I should use apache2, mysql-core, proftpd and php5 ?
[19:51] <jacklk> Levanth: yes, and also php5-mysql
[19:51] <jacklk> Levanth: then your website files go in /var/www, still runs on localhost, etc
[19:51] <Levanth> and then I start those separate or can I write a little script for that?
[19:51] <jacklk> and it all should work -- you don't need to do any config unless you want to
[19:52] <jacklk> Levanth: this isn't LAMP, it should all start and work automatically as soon as you install
[19:52] <bean> god, XAMPP is just as bad as webmin to me
[19:52] <bean> just
[19:52] <bean> gross.
[19:53] <Levanth> then I'll try this, thanks for the help here
[19:53] <jacklk> Levanth: yeah.. you should have no problems at all
[19:57] <melkor> My microphone doesn't work, and I'm looking for similar bugs.
[19:57] <Guest91166> bump
[19:57] <bean> Guest91166: "bump" does nothing here
[19:58] <Guest91166> other than maybe getting some attention
[19:58] <Guest91166> :)
[19:58] <johnjohn101> how is XAMPP different than LAMP?
[19:58] <bean> XAMPP is its own ghetto package
[19:58] <bean> lamp is installed w/ packages
[19:59] <bean> Guest91166: can you "ping archive.canonical.com"
[19:59] <johnjohn101> thanks bean
[20:01] <Guest91166> seem like it works fine, but does not: "ping archive.canonical.com" ever stop?
[20:01] <melkor> ping doesn't stop.
[20:02] <Guest91166> over 100 requests with 80-100ms response time
[20:02] <Guest91166> each
[20:02] <Guest91166> how do i stop it?
[20:02] <bean> control-c
[20:03] <bean> Guest91166: are you, by chance, behind a proxy?
[20:03] <Guest91166> dont know
[20:03] <Guest91166> i use a mobile modem i connect through wireless
[20:04] <bean> Guest91166: hrmmm... I would wait to upgrade then...
[20:04] <Guest91166> to late :P
[20:04] <Guest91166> why would that be a problem?
[20:04] <Shizuo> Omg sad channel
[20:05] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[20:05] <Shizuo> hoi
[20:06] <jnoz> where and who can I ask for a specific package to be updated? (e17 in raring)?
[20:06] <ShapeShifter499> update-manager -d        isn't giving me the option to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[20:06] <ShapeShifter499> what am I doing wrong?
[20:08] <Shizuo> Hi kieppie
[20:08] <kieppie> hi guys
[20:08] <Shizuo> Are you sad?
[20:08] <ShapeShifter499> oh hang on after it updated all the currently installed packages it gave me the option to upgrade to 13.04
[20:08] <kieppie> no - why?
[20:08] <ShapeShifter499> sweet
[20:08] <kieppie> what noteworthy is new & to be expected in the new 13.04 release?
[20:08] <Shizuo> Ponies, mostly
[20:08] <alankila> gnome 3 :-p
[20:08] <kieppie> pooping rainbows?
[20:09] <alankila> I mean the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. I'm using it currently.
[20:10] <kieppie> I've used both gnome-desktop3 & unity - can't say I really prefer the one other the other. much the sameness @ both
[20:10]  * johnjohn101 prefers unity
[20:11] <kieppie> don't dislike them - nor do I like them overly much
[20:11] <ShapeShifter499> I should be fine using sources and packages made for 12.10 on 13.04 right?
[20:11] <kieppie> ShapeShifter499 - you chould if you enable the backport repo
[20:11] <Guest91166> bean: is there a fix that i can try?
[20:12] <kieppie> *in theory*
[20:12] <ShapeShifter499> I have that already enabled
[20:12] <kieppie> !13.04
[20:12] <ShapeShifter499> I thought the release notes said the 24th?
[20:12] <Guest91166> ubuttu: this is #ubuntu+1 :D
[20:13] <kieppie> what's to be expected in the new release? anything noteworthy? I'm a little exited re the prospect for full multi-platform integration, but not sure if it'll be ready @ this release yet
[20:15] <ShapeShifter499> 2181 package updates/installs  damn
[20:15] <bean> Guest91166: "sudo apt-get update"
[20:15] <bean> Guest91166: is that what fails?
[20:15] <Guest91166> bean: yes
[20:15] <ShapeShifter499> this maybe a while
[20:15]  * ShapeShifter499 sips coffee
[20:16] <kieppie> `apt-get -y update && apt-get -y upgrade && apt-get -y dist-upgrade && do-release-upgrade`
[20:16] <Guest91166> bean: "&& upgrade" that is
[20:17] <bean> Guest91166: can you open http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg in a browser?
[20:17] <Guest91166> yes
[20:18] <johnjohn101> when are we supposed to get unity 7?
[20:18] <bean> Guest91166: what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[20:19] <Guest91166> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[20:19] <Guest91166> and: resolvconf(8)
[20:20] <johnjohn101> ok, they changed the dash icon swirly direction...seriously?
[20:21] <bean> Guest91166: okay, what is the full contents....
[20:22] <Guest91166> other tha those two listings. nothing other than # comments
[20:22] <bean> oh
[20:22] <bean> wait
[20:22] <bean> resolveconf(8) is a line in there?
[20:22] <Guest91166> yes
[20:22] <bean> thats not right
[20:23] <Guest91166> what is it supposed to be?
[20:23] <Guest91166> and how to edit
[20:23] <bean> likely just 127.0.1.1
[20:23] <bean> what is the output of "dig +short @127.0.1.1 archive.canonical.com"
[20:24] <Guest91166> two ip adresses
[20:24] <bean> ok, that is correct.
[20:24] <Guest91166> 91.189.92.191 and 91.189.92.150
[20:25] <bean> have you tried rebooting since you started this?
[20:25] <Guest91166> yes, several times
[20:25] <bean> i can't even really find anything with the same error as you out there
[20:25] <bean> and your browser doesn't use a proxy?
[20:25] <Guest91166> nope
[20:26] <Guest91166> unless it is set so automatically
[20:27] <bean> hmm, maybe try a different server in your software sources
[20:27] <Guest91166> did that, many different servers.
[20:28] <Guest91166> i just did a new update upgrade try and now more similiar errors: http://pastebin.com/k1cZMsKs
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Post al the text in a pastebin of sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[20:32] <bean> Guest91166: have you done anything with nsswitch?
[20:32] <bean> can you pastebin the output of /etc/nsswitch.conf
[20:33] <Guest91166> no changes to nsswitch. do net even know what it is
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> there are gpg key problems at times
[20:33] <bean> this doesn't look like a key problem
[20:33] <Guest91166> i shal give you the pastes you asked for
[20:33] <bean> kk
[20:35] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/Kk8YJSJF
[20:35] <bean> I think your /etc/nsswitch.conf is wrong
[20:36] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/edPqyAX3
[20:36] <bean> hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:36] <bean> should be
[20:36] <bean> hosts:          files dns mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] mdns4
[20:39] <FernandoMiguel> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[20:39] <FernandoMiguel> I knew I should have hold longer
[20:39] <bean> Guest91166: you need to change /etc/nsswitch.conf
[20:39] <bean> probably
[20:39] <bean> but those warning are actually no big deal
[20:40] <bean> i'd continue on w/o them
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> mine is the same as theirs hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:41] <Guest91166> bean: just changed it to what you said. but same error
[20:41] <Guest91166> changed it back
[20:42] <jnoz> is anyone here successfully using "connman" for wireless networking on Ubuntu 13.04?
[20:46] <Guest91166> bean: other ideas?
[20:47] <bean> Guest91166: i'd just ignore the errors for now, they're just signing keys it looks like
[20:48] <Guest91166> ok, but will it be sorted out by it self or do i have to download 13.04 when it is officially ready?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, I think you just need to load that missing key to be honest try sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[20:48] <Guest91166> by it self: i mean by upgrades
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> then reload any shown with sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "key here"
[20:51] <Guest91166> no luck: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, You have had an error though with key or key's there is a command to automatically reload all, I forget it though, but a look on the web will probably find it, that is how I helped another user a while back.
[21:01] <Guest91166> bean: ignore for now. ok, but will it resolve?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> I would not ignore it personally it can easily be fixed.
[21:05] <Guest91166> how?
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/automatically-import-all-missing.html
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> I think this should work raring is in the ppa
[21:07] <Guest91166> but why should there be missing keys in a fresh install?
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, IT happens I have seen it happen and had it happen, it is not a perfect world. ;)
[21:09] <Guest91166> hmmm, ok :)
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> frustrating though for sure. ;)
[21:11] <Guest91166> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-11 - System error)
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, NOt sure if this is the exact fix though the ppa says for ppa keys, however it shows that keys can be auto loaded, so it may take a search for that command I wish I could find it.
[21:12] <Guest91166> mhmmm
[21:14] <Guest91166> the nilarimogard key was impoerte successfully
[21:22] <Guest91166> wilee-nilee: i think all the keys are there and correct. what does the -11 system error mean?: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-11 - System error)
[21:24] <Guest91166> i find it strang that i do not get any matches googling the error
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Are you getting the hexadecimal # such as  9BDB3D89CE49EC21  ?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> as an example
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, see post 4 here as wel, bad keys may need to be removes to get this fixed as well rather then just adding correct keys, read the whole link as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> removed*
[21:46] <Guest91166> wilee-nilee: no hex
[21:47] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/edPqyAX3
[21:48] <Guest91166> it does not complain about missing key. it complains about something wicked :)
[21:49] <Guest91166> i give up for tonight
[21:50] <Guest91166> thanks a lot for the help and time :D
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Save this actionparsnip is one of the best helpers on the IRC see post.#4 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/194077
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, here in post 1 is the earlier script by actionparsnip in a wget I just ran it with no errors. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/223769