[00:00] that should be relatively simple, for example [00:00] I could probably do that nowish ;) [00:00] put some colors along the bottom and set the opacity to like .8 [00:00] that would probably get a lot of people's interest [00:01] lots of geek parents out there [00:01] mhall119, except, err ... [00:01] did you see the screenshot at the bottom of the blog posting? [00:01] yeah [00:01] apparently I am pretty good at breaking my system [00:01] does it do that when running in a desktop window too? [00:01] or just on a device? [00:01] mhall119, just on my Nexus 7 [00:02] whenever I touch the context object of the canvas, that happens [00:03] could be hardware related [00:03] depending on how Qt's Canvas is accessing the screen [00:03] a bad driver or something [00:03] yeah [00:03] there are some settings on the canvas that I could play with [00:04] but would be better to have an engineer debug it === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:04] who on the phablet team has small children? [00:05] mhall119, I think a finger painting app would be popular [00:05] this reminds us, we need to discuss getting some of the cream of the crop of the apps on the default image too [00:06] e.g. the stock tracking app [00:07] jono_: we're already started the process, we have a new PPA for those apps, and once we have installable packages bfiller and his team can review them for inclusion [00:07] mhall119, oh awesome, nice work :-) [00:08] mhall119, did you and discuss anything re. the app showdown while I was away? [00:08] I really want to keep this momentum flowing [00:08] not regarding a contest no [00:20] mhall119, ok, lets discuss this this week [00:24] mhall119, check out ... [00:24] PaintPot [00:24] { [00:24] height: paintPotSize [00:24] width: paintPotSize [00:24] color: Qt.rgba(1,1,0,.5) [00:24] onColorSelected: {inkCanvas.inkColor = selectedColor} [00:24] } [00:24] oops [00:24] mhall119, lp:~rick-rickspencer3/+junk/FingerPaint [00:25] that was fast === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [00:27] rickspencer3: wow, that's awesome [00:27] I can't believe that only took 20 minutes [00:27] mhall119, I made a slight change to make the background white [00:27] mhall119, well, it took me a little while longer to make the InkCanvas ;) [00:28] but yeah, good components = productivity [00:28] I can see InkCanvas being very useful [00:28] I wonder if it could be incorporated into the Notes app [00:28] mhall119, well, it's pure QML [00:28] so should be easy to give it a try [00:29] mhall119, should I put up a quick blog post about FingerPaint? [00:30] while I wait for my Nexus7 to update so I can try it there? [00:32] rickspencer3: yeah, and if you can give a description of the code and how it works, I'll link it on developer.u.c too [00:32] mhall119, which part of the code? [00:32] InkCanvas is a bit complicated [00:32] yeah, it probably is... [00:33] how about how to use InkCanvas, and just links to download InkCanvas itself [00:33] mhall119, sure [00:33] but not tonight [00:33] that will take me a bit longer [00:33] and ug ... [00:34] the touch screen calibration on my Nexus 7 is waaaay off [00:34] that's fine, I'm working on a blog post tonight already [00:35] man, we're on image 80 now? I haven't even flashed to 79 yet [00:59] hey mhall119if you do anything with FingerPaint, you might want to pull [01:00] I just deleted a ton of the code [01:00] :) [01:01] Anyone know if it's possible to flash ubuntu onto an LG Optimus G (Nexus 4 variant) [01:15] rickspencer3: nothing about FingerPaint it in tomorrow's blog, but I'll be happy to promote yours when it's posted [01:16] oh, you already posted it I see :) [01:50] I can't run "autopilot run qml_phone_shell" in lp:unity/phablet... After failing a builddir path issue, all tests fail because they can't find autopilot interface. Am I running it differently than I should? [02:01] Saviq, ^ [03:17] rickspencer3: wow, the calibration really is off on the N7 [03:21] rickspencer3: if you want, I used james_w's work on pkgme to create packaging for your FingerPaint app: lp:~mhall119/+junk/FingerPaint [04:19] mterry: you need to run in a real shell and not an adb shell [06:39] good morning [07:01] good morning [07:56] is there a tutorial or guide explaining how to setup pbuilder for Ubuntu Touch? [07:59] mardy, ubuntu or ubuntu touch, should be only sources.list differences no? [08:00] seb128: mostly yes, but I need to tell pbuilder to build for armhf [08:25] Porting question: is having the kernel sources/config for the target device mandatory? I'm trying to port Ubuntu Touch to a device with no sources, and CM10 hasn't been ported yet either. [08:28] pdey: well considering that you need to change things in the defconfig, kernel sources would probably be plus :) [08:29] Namidairo: are the chances of getting it running on the stock kernel .. slim-to-nil? [08:29] it might run, but i suspect that the inbuilt browser won't work [08:29] or the wifi in general [08:30] I thought Ubuntu was running in a chroot though... wouldn't the wifi drivers,etc already be loaded by the outer Android part? [08:31] "Without paranoid_network disabled, the browser won't work correctly" [08:31] ah, right. [08:32] shame there's no way to extract the config from a kernel binary [08:32] though I presume even if I had the config, I'd need the glue or whatever to link in the proprietary modules === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [08:35] modifying the zimage only gets you so far i think [08:36] wouldn't it be easier to just ASK your manufacturer to give you the source... [08:36] Funnily enough, I tried that... it's available under a NDA with a minimum order of...10,000 units. [08:43] ...and what device is this [08:44] Ainol Novo 7 Venus ... Actions ATM7029 SoC === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [11:01] lool: is the ubuntu-ui-toolkit upload for raring still planned, or will we rely on PPA updates only? [11:08] mesq: ping === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:07] Mirv: hey; sorry, I think I got confused because we discussed setting up dailies and then I stopped thinking about uploading it [12:07] Mirv: I just took a look; the changes are fairly large, did this pass QA in some way? [12:08] Mirv: (I'm looking at .38...42) [12:08] lool: all merges are reviewed at least, and everyone uses now the 0.1.42 as it's in the PPA [12:08] for both precise, quantal and raring users [12:09] maybe the bzr417 would be a safe bet, ie when 0.1.42 was released to the PPA. there are three commits after that as well. === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:10] also the raring touch images used the PPA [12:12] Mirv: I'm fine taking r420 or r417; if r420 then we ought to bump the version number [12:12] (IIUC 0.1.42 was uploaded to the PPA with r417) [12:13] lool: I'd take r417 since it's released as defined by sdk team [12:13] Mirv: well, why don't I just take the PPA .dsc and sponsor that [12:14] lool: true, just fixing the jenkins auto-changelog is needed [12:15] hmm, it's also a native package it seems [12:15] Mirv: which auto-changelog would need fixing? [12:15] lool: removing the "Automatic build of revision 417" from dget https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ppa/+files/ubuntu-ui-toolkit_0.1.42%7Eraring1.dsc [12:16] Mirv: if it needs any change, then it's probably better to have them in bzr and I sponsor from that, but that would suck in r420 [12:16] I can't remove the changelog entry without repacking a tarball [12:17] oh well, nobody released a 0.1.42 tarball anyway [12:17] lool: so how about lp:~timo-jyrinki/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/bzr417 ? I did bzr uncommit three times from trunk :) [12:18] either that or cleaning the jenkins added entry [12:18] Mirv: erf, I can do that (bzr co -r 417 BTW), I just wanted to avoid generating a new tarball [12:18] lool: right, well that's needed anyhow [12:18] but since I'd have to change the one from the PPA, I guess it's fine if I just rebuild from r417 or from the PPA source [12:18] because of the jenkins mangling [12:19] sorry it's bzr revert -r 417 not co [12:20] Mirv: after that release, do you mind preparing for daily release in S? [12:20] Mirv: then adding the stack to head and so on? [12:20] Mirv: uploaded r417 of lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit [12:20] I compared to the PPA .dsc and the only delta was debian/changelog [12:20] (jenkins entry) [12:21] lool: just out of interested I checked manually what's the difference between pure 417 and the jenkins upload: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5712997/ [12:21] lool: ok, great [12:21] didrocks: AFAIK I did all from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging some weeks ago already to lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit [12:22] Mirv: hum, it's a native package and I don't see the bootstrap commit [12:22] but I haven't got the big picture of what the daily release needs [12:23] ah, so that's missing [12:23] Mirv: if you wait to complete the guideline to make that more clear ^ :) [12:24] Mirv: before doing those changes, we should diverge between a raring branch and the new trunk, isn't it? [12:24] didrocks: I have a vague memory that I asked you or someone about the need to push that "/inline-packaging", and the answer was (maybe) that not needed since it's already native package or something. but certainly at least the "Getting it ready for autolanding" (bootstrapping) hasn't been done yet [12:25] Mirv: would be nice to not have a native package versionning scheme, just to follow all other packages we have [12:25] didrocks: yes we should [12:25] Mirv: I'm happy to revisit that later on, but at least, that enables to have real "upstream" tarballs [12:25] (without the debian/ dir) [12:26] Mirv: apart from that, just had a quick look, everything's fine :) [12:26] Mirv: once done, just ping me, we can add this together to the S branch ;) [12:27] ok, I'm pushing the raring branch first, then preparing a merge request for bootstrapping and non-native package [12:28] Mirv: excellent, you are creating a raring series? [12:28] didrocks: yes [12:28] sweet :) [12:38] sergiusens: have we put out a call for testing the raring images? === _salem is now known as salem_ === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:12] hi nik90 [13:13] mesq: I just wanted to let you of the update to the bug report regarding the milliseconds when it was marked won't fix.. [13:13] but you fixed that :) [13:13] it is being worked on by alessandro [13:14] mesq: although when can one expect the visual designs for clock to be announced? [13:15] popey: ping [13:16] mhall119, popey: were you able to run the autopilot test for clock-app successfully? If yes, I can merge the branch by renato into trunk. [13:17] nik90: I haven't tried it [13:17] nik90: what's the branch? [13:18] mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-clock-app/autopilot/+merge/157982 [13:21] nik90: hmmm, I'm getting merge conflicts [13:22] mhall119: merge conflicts..ah I see it. I think that's because the branch is behind the recent trunk commits. [13:22] I will ask renato to update branch [13:23] mhall119: renato told me he will update his branch in another 1-2 mins :) [13:24] ok, it's not a bad conflict [13:24] nik90: how do I run the autopilot tests? [13:25] mhall119: cd into the tests/autopilot folder [13:25] mhall119: and then run "autopilot run clock_app" === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [13:27] nik90, mhall119 done [13:28] nik90: I get an error [13:28] RuntimeError: Unable to find Autopilot interface. [13:29] mhall119: do you have autopilot-phablet and libautopilot-qt installed? [13:29] probably not [13:30] mhall119: those two packages from the official autopilot ppa are required..although in my comp, the tests still fail [13:30] nik90: do you have a link to the PPA? [13:31] mhall119: 1 min..let me find it [13:31] thanks, trying to get it from Raring's archives isn't working [13:31] mhall119: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:autopilot/ppa [13:31] popey: do you have a few minutes to get me up to date on the conversation you had with the Trojita(imap client) devs? === Robin_Watts_ is now known as Robin_Watts [13:33] mhall119: not yet, we want to tag the quantal one before that and found a couple of bugs that don't look good on demos [13:34] Hi, is it possible to run X11 programs in UT somehow? I was wanting to try and run desktop Chromium. === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [13:35] nik90: ok, the bug is good to go i think [13:35] jaduncan_: not currently, no [13:35] jaduncan_: I'm under the impression UT runs on top of Canonical's new display driver (Mir) instead of X [13:36] ajalkane: it currently runs on top of Android's SurfaceFlinger, but will start using Mir soon [13:36] mhall119: ok, thanks [13:36] there will be an XMir layer, capable of running X11 apps on Mir [13:36] ajalkane, mhall119: I wondered about a VNC app [13:36] mesq: thnx..I have asked another developer to work on it...should be done by today hopefully [13:36] but that's admittedly a roundabout way to do it [13:36] jaduncan_: I'm sure some body could write a VNC app in Qt that will work without X11 [13:37] nik90: visuals handover might take a while, still. it's being explored as a whole. meaning across the suite of apps. [13:37] mesq: ah ok..np [13:38] mhall119: I mean to connect to the X11 server with. I think this is currently too edge case a thing to do, and I have the desktop image of Ubuntu for the N7. I think I'll just have to try and heavily cut down the memory usage on that. [13:46] nik90: autopilot runs now [13:47] one test, and it passes [13:47] mhall119: wait the clock-app test works for you? [13:48] yup [13:48] mhall119: I get Traceback (most recent call last): [13:48] File "/home/krnekhelesh/Code/autopilot/tests/autopilot/clock_app/tests/test_clock.py", line 49, in test_label_value [13:48] self.assertThat(label.text, Eventually(NotEquals(''))) [13:48] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'text' [13:48] and that the test ran but Failed [13:50] mhall119: hmm really wierd...so to summarize this, the calculator app test works but clock app doesnt work on my comp...while the clock app test work on ur laptop [13:50] :) [13:50] test isolation problem maybe? [13:50] nik90: do you have the latest SDK packages? [13:50] mhall119: yeah I have the latest sdk packages..running 13.04 with all updates done [13:51] mhall119: I told renato that I will look line by line to see what the change is between calculator and clock app tests to figure this [13:52] ok === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [14:03] mhall119: pong [14:04] yes, hangout? [14:04] popey: wanted to get caught up on the conversation you has with the Trojita devs [14:04] popey: I'm in one with dpm right now [14:04] maybe in 15-20 minutes? [14:04] sure [14:05] thanks [14:28] mhall119: any template we should use in source files for copyrights? [14:30] ajalkane: you should have a look at ubuntu-clock-app. Every qml, js, py file there includes the copyright. You can copy just that and modify it slightly like the Author's name to suit your application [14:30] nik90: Thanks [14:35] mhall119, is there still an app developer mailing list? [14:36] jono, do you know? ^ [14:37] rickspencer3, if there is, we don't use it any more much [14:37] ok [14:37] thanks jono [14:38] rickspencer3, we generally point folks at Ask Ubuntu for support and the G+ community [14:38] jono, ok [14:38] (or the ubuntu-phone ML) [14:38] ogra_, yeah, that's why I was asking, wondering if it was ok to support that person writing their game on that mailing list [14:38] or if it was noise [14:39] i dont think its noise ... [14:39] people discuss apps there all the time [14:39] ogra_, thanks! [14:39] and popey and mhall119 make their app announcements there too [14:39] wfm [14:39] :) [14:39] :) [14:40] rickspencer3: this one ? ubuntu-app-devel@lists.ubuntu.com [14:41] is that used much ? [14:42] popey: ready now? [14:42] ogra_: occasionally [14:43] rickspencer3: supporting people in the ML is fine, but if they ask questions in AskUbuntu it will help more people in the future [14:46] ChickenCutlass: if you're around, I wanted to let you know that I kind of made the kernel/initrd work, and by kind of I mean I can change the brightness of the screen by writing values to files in /sys/class/backlight/ [14:46] ^ writing values from the init script that is [14:47] shadeslayer: very good [14:47] shadeslayer: can you share your initrd [14:48] sure, but its the standard initrd that you get in a armhf chroot [14:49] shadeslayer, still no success with a framebuffer console ? [14:49] I just added a call : echo 150 > /sys/class/backlight/pwm-backlight.0/brightness : at the beginning ( after it mounts sysfs and /proc ) [14:49] shadeslayer: ok got it [14:49] ogra_: I haven't pursued it today, was doing some paperwork [14:49] ah [14:49] ChickenCutlass: the kernel config on the other hand is quite different [14:49] ancient stuff ... [14:49] indeed :P [14:50] paper ... i heard of that in my youth [14:50] ChickenCutlass: I used the config that's in the recovery image [14:50] ogra_: apparently still used to file for visa's [14:50] shadeslayer: ok, do you have the diff? [14:50] just used the one from recovery, should just work to let you change the brightness :P [14:50] shadeslayer, you travel to the wrong places (or from the wrong ones) :) [14:51] ogra_: rather, was born in the wrong country :P [14:51] or that [14:51] all the countries ( except a tiny tiny minority of them ) want a visa for Indians [14:52] there should be a passport classification : international, travel to any country in any part of the world :P [14:56] ChickenCutlass: if you get fbcon going, that'd be superb :) [14:56] * shadeslayer doesn't have time to look at it for a couple of days now [15:11] didrocks: ping [15:22] sergiusens: pong [15:25] mhall119, kaleo is it possible to command a Tabs to select a specific tab? [15:26] rickspencer3: I think you can set a property on Tabs [15:26] grammatically, I mean, without user input? [15:26] mhall119, well, I want to select a tab on a buttons onClicked event [15:27] didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~ps-jenkins/phablet-tools/latestsnapshot-0.9daily13.04.15ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1/+merge/158832 [15:27] rickspencer3: you can probably set selectedTab or selectedTabIndex on your Tabs component [15:27] didrocks: that's my problem... between that and the prev one there are linked bugs and all but the changelog does not reflect that [15:27] that would, I assume, fire an onSelectedTabChanged handler of some kind to actually change the UI to the new tab [15:27] sergiusens: is it before rev 79 or after that one? [15:28] mhall119, ack, selectTab is read only, but select tab index works [15:28] didrocks: 78 and 80 are daily builds, 79 has a bug linked [15:29] sergiusens: oh right, I don't list bugs on purpose for feature ppa [15:30] sergiusens: stuff that doesn't land on distro [15:30] sergiusens: they will be listed once they land on distro [15:30] sergiusens: it's part of the big discussion of "what to do with feature branch" [15:32] fginther, is this a known issue: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-media-head-1.1prepare-mediaplayer-app/3/console ? [15:33] mterry, I've never seen it before [15:33] didrocks, ^ [15:33] mterry, is this a jibel scritp? [15:34] fginther, so you landed the quantal CI branch I see [15:35] mterry: no, this is me, I fixed it and didn't rerun it as I thought we'll have the autopilot job fixed [15:35] mterry: which isn't the case [15:35] fginther, what PPAs does that use? (both as source and destination) [15:35] * mterry realizes it's probably in config [15:35] fginther: I think we should really discuss about your CI configuration at the sprint [15:35] fginther: I see a lot of duplication and it's making the configuration file horrible to read [15:35] mterry, I just restored it to match the existing jobs we had on the ci jenkins. some other job updates were needed [15:36] mterry, so the ppas were the old ones until I can get the 'ppa:' value to work [15:37] fginther, but notably, not the daily-build-next PPA I see. So we are going to get out of sync (like the HUD in daily-next is 2.0, but HUD in phablet-team is 1.0) [15:39] mterry, I need to examine this for a moment [15:40] didrocks: well we probably should or people are going to start complaining [15:41] sergiusens: it's just a flag, but this has consequences when upload to distro, that's why I want that to be discussed before === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods [15:41] sergiusens: and notice that bugs won't be closed, just listed [15:41] sergiusens: what is closing the bugs is launchpad [15:41] during an upload to distro [15:41] as there is no "touch" product [15:41] sergiusens: if you want, we can discuss that tomorrow over a hangout [15:41] rsalveti: that's the explanation ^^ [15:42] didrocks: yes please... we create changlogs for everyday and construct the weekly communication with the changelog entries [15:43] sergiusens: ok, discussing that tomorrow? I won't have time today (in a meeting and then leaving) [15:43] sergiusens: I need to rethink, there were multiple good reasons to not list them [15:43] sergiusens: so I need to draw a map :) [15:43] didrocks: yes, let's hangout tomorrow [15:43] didrocks: it might turn out to be acceptable loss until we land in distro === francisco is now known as Guest86369 [15:44] sergiusens: yeah, I want to ensure I'm listing every consequences, but for that, I need a fresh brain ;) [15:45] sergiusens: right [15:46] sergiusens: the problem is telling what actually changed in an automatic way [15:46] as the changlog will be kind of useless === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|bbiab [15:49] sergiusens, were you working on the branch to add autopilot dep packages to the cu2d configs? [15:50] ogra_: btw, from your image you are shipping the ffmepg codec [15:51] ogra_: which is not very cool, can you help sil2100 and renato on that one? [15:51] didrocks, how do you mean ? [15:51] didrocks, do you know what happened to the branch to add autopilot dep packages to the cu2d configs? [15:51] didrocks, which image ? [15:51] ogra_: ffmepg is shipped through the media-app [15:51] * ogra_ isnt aware of any ffmpeg [15:52] gstreamer0.10 ffmepg codec [15:52] didrocks, well, i dont have anty access to the OBS system, talk to sergiusens or rsalveti ... i'm working on the distro builds [15:52] unless they finally switched to use our seeds [15:52] Adding this to auto-join [15:52] mterry, I'm working on changes to add the stack ppa, so hopefully we'll only be out of sync for another day or two. [15:53] sergiusens: rsalveti ^ [15:53] fginther, ok [15:53] ogra_: I thought you have deep knowledge of the image, sorry :) [15:53] if thats in our seeds i'll happily change it though :) [15:53] didrocks, not of the black hole that the OBS image build system is [15:53] didrocks, ask me anything about official builds :) [15:53] ogra_: I think it's a dep of the media-app [15:54] isn't it sil2100? [15:54] gstreamer-ffmpeg? [15:54] didrocks, i think thats actually jhodapp|bbiab country [15:54] sil2100: yep, what's pulling it? [15:55] didrocks, ogra_: the mediaplayer-app package has a hard dep on it [15:55] gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg [15:55] right, jhodapp then [15:55] I poked renato about that, since he's one of the devs there, so I had a chat about the usage of that [15:56] And as mentioned on a different channel, they're using it for thumbnail creation for now because of the various codecs it supports [15:56] if it is only used for that, whats wrong with having it ? [15:56] or does it get in your way anyhow ? [15:57] (seems to be fine license wise) [15:57] Well, it's in universe, so we'll be pulling universe deps for a main package - also didrocks mentioned that the license seems to be confusing? [15:57] erm [15:57] nearly everything of touch is currebntly in universe :) [15:58] ogra_: we can't ship it, it's having some codecs that are legally weird [15:58] ogra_: it's like vlc [15:58] and if it is in universe the lic3ense needs to be fine [15:58] didrocks, if they were actually legally weird that package would be in multiverse [15:59] unless someone made a fatal error nobody noticed over the last years [15:59] ogra_: do you mind checking with the release/security team? for me always ffmepg always was -> danger [15:59] ogra_: that would be helpful, I'm not fully knowledgeable about this, but seb128 confirmed as well [16:00] ogra_, the issue is not license, it's patents [16:00] well, i'd like to leave it to the guys that depend on it ... after all they will need a MIR in S [16:00] seb128, aha ! thats different :) [16:00] Same here, not really super knowledgable about that, [16:00] ogra_, still a good reason to not have it on the CD [16:00] right [16:01] well, tallk to jhodapp ... he maintains the media stack afaik [16:01] ogra_, didrocks: maybe we could ask the mediaplayer-app guys to rewrite it that it would Suggest -ffmpeg -> if not installed, no thumbnails would be available [16:01] (but really dont worry about usniverse vs main atm, that will only become relevant once everything can be built from the archive) [16:02] sil2100: ok, let's add everything, can you add a big warning for the mediaplayer-app in the spreasheet and starts the conversation? [16:03] (jhodapp seems to be back soon, i saw him saying ~1h in another channel, just wait fior him) [16:04] might be it is easy to just drop it ... who knows [16:04] Ok [16:04] * ogra_ has no clue about multimedia :) i'm just the image build bitch [16:04] As mentioned before, I had a talk with renato and he said something like: "maybe I can use other gst codes but I am not sure, and depends of what kind of video the user want to play" [16:05] well, dont we support video thumbnails in the desktop today ? [16:05] what does nautilus use atm ? [16:05] seb128, ^^ [16:05] ogra_, totem-video-thumbnail [16:05] totem-video-thumbnailer [16:06] and what does that use in the back ? [16:06] gstreamer [16:06] there must be soem gst [16:06] right [16:06] i think the mediaplayer should just use what we use today ... so wont need a MIR etc [16:07] not sure how much work that is [16:11] sil2100: ok, approved, let's deploy that tomorrow, ok? [16:17] didrocks: oh, ok ;) Let's see if we can get it removed as well [16:17] Thanks! [16:17] sil2100: indeed :) [16:17] sil2100: thanks for the note on the spreadsheet :) [16:21] hi frnds [16:22] mhall119, bzoltan1 is there a magic setting that I need to debug QML? [16:22] hello.. anybody thre [16:22] hi tintin [16:22] s'up? [16:22] hi rick [16:22] is it possible to instll ubuntu mbl on n 900? [16:23] hello [16:23] !devices | tintin [16:23] tintin: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [16:24] if the n900 is listed there, there should be a link to instructions for installing Ubuntu Touch on it === mhall119 is now known as mhall119|lunch === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:35] rick..its nt listd there [16:35] tx for the help [16:39] the n900 is definitely not powerful enough === jhodapp|bbiab is now known as jhodapp [16:45] ogra_, back [16:45] jhodapp, sil2100, seb128 and didrocks had some concerns about using ffmpeg [16:46] seems there are possible patent issues with using it [16:48] o/ [16:48]