[03:42] <kdef> does anyone here use 13.04?
[03:43] <bazhang> !13.04 | kdef
[03:46] <sw0rdfish> hello guys :D
[03:48] <sw0rdfish> I am fed up of unity, and today at the library I sat down on one of the public PC's there and the browser was left open to www.kubuntu.org/feature-tour .... BOOM! I was hooked. Reminded me of using KDE like 4 or 5 years ago.
[03:48] <sw0rdfish> Definitely sexier and better. :)
[03:49] <kb3gtn> well it is KDE..  Just 4 or 5 years newer..
[03:49] <kb3gtn> :-P
[03:49] <sw0rdfish> Kinda looks like a Mac OS in a way.
[03:50] <sw0rdfish> Which release do I download? latest or Long Term Support version?
[03:50] <kb3gtn> depends..
[03:50] <sw0rdfish> is the latest version unstable?
[03:51] <sw0rdfish> stable? :D
[03:51] <kb3gtn> Use the LTS if you want it to work and be stable and have support for longer period.
[03:51] <kb3gtn> current release is 12.10, but 13.04 is comming out very soon.
[03:52] <kb3gtn> kubuntu 13.04 adsd support the MTP, which is nice if you got an android smart phone..
[03:52] <sw0rdfish> well meh... since it will be a vbox I'm getting 12.10 :)
[03:53] <sw0rdfish> I'm guessing that means, you can put it on such a phone?
[03:53] <kb3gtn> most of the modern andoid phone use MTP to share files..
[03:53] <kb3gtn> instead of showing up like a USB stick drive..
[03:54] <kb3gtn> Even though.. they are working on a phone version of the OS..
[03:58] <sw0rdfish> instead of showing up like a usb stick, how will it show up?
[04:00] <kdef> beware, kde is not that good
[04:00] <kdef> I'm disliking it again
[04:00] <kdef> constant bugs and crashes
[04:00] <kdef> dunno what I'll do... might have to look at other distros again :-(
[04:18] <sw0rdfish> well jeez
[04:18] <sw0rdfish> its a vbox :)
[04:18] <sw0rdfish> I think its the only thing that looks as close to a Mac OSX system right?
[05:30] <Capprentice> If  I install multiple backend for akonadi it it going to work any faster on Ubuntu 12.04 ?? Or it start conflicting with each other (mysql vs postgresql) ?
[05:31] <Capprentice> hello ! anyone ? Im very sure on Kubuntu nepomuk server starts automatically..
[05:34] <Capprentice> Anyone alive ?!!
[05:35] <Capprentice> video/x-surface decoder
[06:26] <sw0rdfish> I do think you can ask in #ubuntu too (i think its a general channell?) dude I have no idea though
[06:41] <Mamarok> sw0rdfish: not about Akonadi, that is KDE specific
[06:41] <Mamarok> but he could have waited a little longer...
[06:42] <sw0rdfish> I see.
[07:07] <Santi> HI
[07:08] <Santi> Which program is compatible usb live / work with kubuntu 13.04 beta 2?
[07:08] <Santi> I can not fire live DVD / CD
[07:10] <Santi> It seems to me that the options for the elderly UEFI BIOS is a problem.
[07:14] <Santi> Why would someone iso, since most still use the flash drive
[07:16] <Santi> I suggest you give up the images isp. I do live usb pendrive
[07:55] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:43] <sivang> hello all.
[08:43] <sivang> Let me first say, I LOVE KUBUNTU
[08:43] <valorie> me too, sivang
[08:44] <valorie> nice to hear again
[08:44] <sivang> valorie: :) where is the right link to download an USB stick image for installation?
[08:45]  * sivang ponders where is the kind jriddel
[08:45] <sivang> (aka Jonathan Riddel)
[08:45] <smartboyhw> sivang, you just download the image in cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases
[08:45] <smartboyhw> Riddell, ^:P
[08:45] <valorie> sivang: I've always zsynced or torrented the ISO, and created it from that
[08:45] <lordievader> sivang: You can simply use the normal desktop images, then you can make a usb image with something like Unetbootin.
[08:45] <sivang> valorie: and what are the links on the site directing to?
[08:46] <valorie> using the kubuntu live usb creator
[08:46] <sivang> lordievader: oh, that's what I get in the web site download link
[08:46] <valorie> there are zsync, rsync and torrent links all
[08:46] <sivang> valorie: yes, okay, so I'll do just that. I'm a bit traomatized of getting ubuntu-desktop and unity packages after having installed ubuntu and then trying to mold it back to kubuntu
[08:46] <valorie> ugh
[08:46] <valorie> I hate having all that extra gtk stuff
[08:46] <lordievader> sivang: Understandable ;)
[08:47] <sivang> valorie: a pain and a slow down
[08:47] <sivang> kubuntu is SO darn fast
[08:47] <sivang> so the regular download link in the website should do yes?
[08:48] <sivang> ah right, it's a 900MB~ download, pop it on your stick with the disk creator and you;'re done.
[08:48] <valorie> sure, and remember that if you don't want to do it via your browser, you can use wget
[08:48] <valorie> much faster
[08:49] <sivang> valorie: good point, also not risking downloads stopping if Chrome crashes (which it does)
[08:49] <valorie> wget can resume, too
[08:49] <valorie> it's a great tool
[08:52] <sivang> yep, it is.
[08:52] <sivang> I'm downloading, thank you good people. Wish I had time to contribute back. Perhaps this will also happen in this life ;)
[08:52] <sivang> (Riddel would love me to join, he's a very close and dear friend to me)
[08:53] <Riddell> sivang: likewise but only if you spell my name right :)
[08:53] <sivang> Riddell: I'm sorry! I am terrible at being good spelling Scottish names ;)
[08:53] <sivang> Riddell it is, then.
[08:53] <sivang> :)
[08:53]  * Riddell hugs sivang 
[08:54]  * sivang double hugs Riddell back
[08:56] <valorie> sivang: just R<tab>
[08:56] <valorie> ;-)
[08:57] <valorie> you'll always spell it right then
[08:57] <sivang> valorie: I just try <tab> and if it doesn't show anything I spell it myself ;)
[08:58] <valorie> lol
[08:58] <sivang> one should note, real women/men know how to spell right! hehe
[08:58] <valorie> ah, just tab gives you the last person who spoke in the chan
[08:59] <sivang> hmm, that expalins stuff
[08:59] <valorie> I know how to spell, but I'm a bit lazy
[08:59] <sivang> sure, I was trying to joke
[08:59] <sivang> ;)
[08:59] <valorie> :-)
[08:59] <sivang> valorie: 'R' is like right shift?
[09:00] <valorie> lol, yes
[09:00] <valorie> a small r works too
[09:00] <sivang> does not work here, strange
[09:01] <sivang> I use irssi
[09:01] <lordievader> Does that mean the majority of IRC is virtual? As they use tab to spell?
[09:01] <valorie> ah, boo
[09:01]  * sivang is old fashined
[09:01] <valorie> lordievader: how else would one get the spelling of your nick correct?
[09:01] <lordievader> Anyhow this is getting offtopic, perhaps a move to #kubuntu-offtopic would be in order.
[09:01] <valorie> konversation rulez!
[09:01] <valorie> sorry
[09:02] <sivang> again, thank you good people.
[10:48] <DonVukodlak> need help ovah here!
[10:51] <DonVukodlak> oh cmon!
[10:55] <lordievader> !ask | DonVukodlak
[10:56] <DonVukodlak> waht?
[10:57] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: Calling out that you need help isn't very usefull, state your problem. If one know the answer they will reply.
[10:57] <lordievader> !pm | DonVukodlak
[10:58] <DonVukodlak> talk to me in this channel
[10:58] <DonVukodlak> dont pm me
[10:58] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: I didn't... you did.
[10:59] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: But anyhow, state your problem.
[11:00] <DonVukodlak> ok. so i installed kubuntu with wubi
[11:00] <DonVukodlak> restarted the system
[11:00] <DonVukodlak> bootscreen
[11:00] <DonVukodlak> then blackscreen for about 10 minutes
[11:01] <DonVukodlak> rebooted my sys
[11:02] <DonVukodlak> and again the same problem. but, with some errors about root
[11:03] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: Wubi is a mess, it would be better to install Kubuntu in a VM or do a 'real' install.
[11:04] <DonVukodlak> i have a notebook
[11:04] <DonVukodlak> i hate vm
[11:04] <DonVukodlak> real install?
[11:05] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: Make a live-usb/live-cd, boot from there and install Kubuntu in the way it is ment to be installed.
[11:05] <DonVukodlak> oh gonna try that next time. thx!
[11:05] <DonVukodlak> but the drivers...
[11:07] <lordievader> DonVukodlak: I'm sorry I need to go, but I'm sure there are other people who can assist you.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:26] <Aknot> What is the best dark/black color scheme?
[11:26] <BluesKaj> !best
[13:06] <ovidiu-florin> has anybody used fontforge?
[13:07] <ovidiu-florin> or do you recommend annother program for editing fonts
[13:07] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[14:19] <mikkle-sticks> Sometimes X crashes and sends me back to lightdm
[14:19] <mikkle-sticks> this includes skyping with video (only with certain contacts!)
[14:20] <mikkle-sticks> anyone know what might be causing this?
[14:43] <subman> It seems my default system font upon installation is really, really tiny.  How to change that?
[14:49] <subman> I found it, thanks.
[14:53] <avihay> !bestbot
[14:57] <bjrohan_> For some reason Dolphin look has bunged up, Here is what I mean, if I click the Dolphin browser launcher, it looks normal. Insome programs if it uses Dolphin to browse files, it looks reall, really bad, almost like it is opening a wine version. What may be causing this?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> bjrohan_, did you notice that the ugly files require root permissions ?
[15:05] <bjrohan_> BluesKaj: Nope, not in anything that requires root. The program opening Dolphin is not a wine program either. I have a screenshot, trying to find a place to post it
[15:05] <BluesKaj> try imagebin
[15:06] <bjrohan_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/dolphinversions.jpg/
[15:07] <bjrohan_> Sublime text 2 is the program in this case
[15:15] <bjrohan_> BluesKaj: Another instance, I am using LibreOffice, and when I open up an file dialog, it looks like the crappy version of Dolphin, not the one that I expect
[15:21] <BluesKaj> bjrohan_, the method I used was to open system settings with krunner kdesudo systemsettings and set the themes,fonts etc as I did with user permissions and that solved my ugly problem with some files
[15:24] <BluesKaj> actually not just some files i guess . I didn't have anymore ugly files after that
[15:53] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[18:01] <MySystem> hello i search a tool which compares files and folders with subfolders and output the differences, would take a command too if the results easyly readable
[18:02] <MySystem> searched google and ubuntu.com and package managment but didnt find something for me
[18:57] <lordievader> Good evening
[19:28] <ovidiu-florin> I've edited the font URW Chancery L - Medi Ital and added the Romanian characters. I found the file in /usr/share/ghostscript/~current/Resource/Fonts/ I saved it, but I still can't use those characters. I've changed the font encoding to unicode (It did not support the characters before that). Do I have to reboot so that I can use that font?
[19:32] <ovidiu-florin> I'm rebooting BBL
[19:41] <xaruma> hi all
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> any help on font editing please?
[20:06] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, that depends on what you mean by editing fonts
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> I want to edit the font URW Chancery L to add the romanian characters
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> the characters are: ăĂșȘțȚ that is with comma below not sedilla
[20:11] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know where that font is stored int he system
[20:15] <BluesKaj> system settings>Font Management>SystemFonts , ovidiu-florin
[20:21] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: how do I get the file location from there?
[20:23] <BluesKaj> kmenu>computer>system settings>Font Management>SystemFonts , ovidiu-florin
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> I got there
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> but how do I find the font file location?
[20:24] <ovidiu-florin> I can find the font there , but where's the file in the filesystem?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, choose a font right click on 'system fonts' and export to the file
[20:33] <keithzg_> Arghh, I'm pretty damn certain I'm running fglrx, yet I cannot for the life of me get anything that uses OpenCL to run.
[20:37] <BluesKaj> keithzg_, give us an example
[20:39] <keithzg_> BluesKaj: well, bitcoin miners like cgminer and poclbm (I also can't compile the SDK examples, but that could be unrelated)
[20:40] <BluesKaj> do you have OpenGL chosen in system settings>desktop effects>advance>composting type?
[20:40] <BluesKaj> bitcoin miners ?
[20:40] <keithzg_> BluesKaj: to be honest I'm trying remotely on the respective machines.
[20:46] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: I've found the font file /usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/z003034l.pfb I've edited it with fontforge and saved it. Do I ahve to reboot to see the changes?
[20:46] <keithzg_> Sigh. Nothing ever seems to go right when it involves corporation-produced software that isn't even properly packaged. I'm sure the issue is the AMD "APP" SDK nonsense.
[20:47]  * keithzg_ should probably just upgrade to 13.04 already since Bug #1048036 may be part of this mess
[20:48] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, perhaps , not sure
[20:51]  * ovidiu-florin is eating salty peanuts
[20:51] <BluesKaj> keithzg_, I'm not very knowledgable about ati graphics , it's been a while since I've used them
[21:05] <keithzg_> BluesKaj: Fair enough. I wish I could figure this out . . . "amdconfig --list-adapters" looks fine, but "clinfo | grep Board" returns zilch. Arghh.
[21:17] <keithzg_> Aha! http://devgurus.amd.com/thread/160693 makes it sound like it's a problem with me trying to run it remotely/headless, and indeed, adding a script to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  that runs "xhost +" upon display setup seems to have fixed it.
[21:24] <BluesKaj> keithzg_, nice find ! :)
[21:30] <scotty56>   jmimkimkmo
[21:31] <scotty56> oops
[21:31] <kitzune> When a program is install through muon software center, like deluge, where is it in the file system if I wanted to make it a defualt program?
[21:32] <kitzune> installed*
[21:32] <lordievader> kitzune: Usually programs go to /usr/share, their binaries are usually in /usr/bin.
[21:34] <keithzg_> kitzune: usually you don't need to know where it is to make it a default; just use the actuall command, if you need to do it manually (for deluge, I think just "deluge" would work, no path necessary)
[21:37] <kitzune> Perfect :) thanks very much
[21:43] <lordievader> kitzune: No problem, you can also use "whereis deluge".
[21:44] <lordievader> But as keithzg_ said, if the program is in your path there is no need to type the full path ;)
[21:48] <mindcode> m